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Jun. 7-13: Diddy's $360,000 Maybach Birthday Gift To Son Questioned On 'Nightline'
Posted Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:28am PDT by Billy Johnson, Jr. in That's Really Week
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Diddy is making a bit of Father's Day news early after the Friday night airing of his interview with Nightline's Martin Bashir. While Bashir covered a lot of ground with Diddy, discussing his new movie, Get Him To The Greek, as well as his life as a music, fashion, and television mogul -- and the NBA Finals -- the most intriguing portion of the sit-down was Bashir's questioning about fatherhood.
WATCH Nightline asks Diddy about fatherhood at 6:13 mark in video.
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When asked if he enjoyed being a dad, Diddy said yes but admitted that it was the area that he did not consider himself most successful, citing that his kids "deserved more (of his) personal time."
That response jump-started a series of questions about Diddy's parental discretion that made the hip-hop figure visibly annoyed at times.
Bashir suggested that Diddy was setting a bad example as a role model by having six kids by multiple women.
Diddy defended himself, saying, "All of my kids are taken care of. They all go to the best schools." Bashir quipped, "But you don't live with them."
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Nightline aired footage of the VH1 show My Super Sweet 16, celebrating Diddy's son Justin. That episode made the news when it aired in February because Diddy gave Justin a Maybach car worth more than $360,000. Bashir asked Diddy what many people wanted to know -- "Do you think it was appropriate to buy your 16-year-old son a Maybach car worth almost $400,000?"
Diddy seemed put off by the question, replying that he can give his kids whatever he wanted. But as Bashir continued to press the issue, Diddy grew increasingly annoyed.
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When Bashir asked if giving such a lavish gift imposed a "sensible lesson," Diddy said, "I feel the way I raise my children, you know, I don't have to explain to you or anybody else because nobody knows the way I raise my children."
A persistent Bashir tried an additional time to get Diddy to admit that the gesture was excessive, but Diddy stood his ground.
"It wasn't even about a lesson," he said with attitude. "It's what I wanted to do. I can do whatever I want to do with my children. And you can't question me about it. Nobody can question me about what I do with my children."
I'd like to interject and remind Diddy that actually there is someone who can question him about what he does with his children, and that someone is a little old government agency called Social Services. However, spoiling one's child is not its area of focus.
I do agree with Bashir on this issue. I don't think it makes Diddy a bad father because he bought his child an excessive gift, but a 16-year-old kid does not need a car that costs nearly double that of the national median home price. And I don't care if his dad can afford it.
Ironically, when Diddy met Bashir for the first time for this interview, he greeted him with enthusiasm, hugging him and revealing that he was a fan of Bashir's work. But he confessed, "I got a little bit nervous." At least we now know that those nerves were uneasy for good reason. If you remember, Bashir was the reporter who interviewed the late Michael Jackson for the disturbing television documentary, "Living With Michael Jackson."
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I wonder why he agreed to an interview with him after the way he treated Michael I would have thought he would have told him to go and do one. English for get lost
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Diddy kicked Bashit's ass so hard!!! :arrow:
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I wonder why he agreed to an interview with him after the way he treated Michael I would have thought he would have told him to go and do one. English for get lost
oh please, you think diddy care about michael? No hell! You didnt hear when diddy said he's a big fan of Bashir :roll:
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I wonder why he agreed to an interview with him after the way he treated Michael I would have thought he would have told him to go and do one. English for get lost
oh please, you think diddy care about michael? No hell! You didnt hear when diddy said he's a big fan of Bashir :roll:
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when was that?
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Um.. Bashit kind of had a point when he asked if its responsible to have so many children with different women. To my mind that IS irresponsible and isnt setting a good example.
And what 16 year old kid needs a car worth that much?? The kid will probably end up killing himself because he doesnt have the experience to drive such a high powered car.
Remember.. Michael spent all of his days with his children and was hands on. He took all his parenting hands on. Also, he didnt spoil his kids.. to the point that i heard last Christmas he asked his kids what they wanted and they replied "nothing" and chose to give their gift to a charity instead.
Same as Princess Diana.. she made her kids queue up like normal kids when they went to Thorpe park.
I know we all hate Bashir for what he did.. but i think he brought up valid points here.
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I wonder why he agreed to an interview with him after the way he treated Michael I would have thought he would have told him to go and do one. English for get lost
oh please, you think diddy care about michael? No hell! You didnt hear when diddy said he's a big fan of Bashir :roll:
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when was that?
watch the video
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When i watch videos like that of other "stars" and how they act, and splash the cash around.. it makes me realise why i miss and love MJ so much.
MJ didnt do that. He was humble. The difference between MJ and Diddy is a chasm.
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I am not saying diddy did not care about michael but he should have cared how that man treated his friend and either shown him up or not gone near the man
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I am not saying diddy did not care about michael but he should have cared how that man treated his friend and either shown him up or not gone near the man
diddy and michael are not friends, where in the hell have you been, jesus :roll:
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When i watch videos like that of other "stars" and how they act, and splash the cash around.. it makes me realise why i miss and love MJ so much.
MJ didnt do that. He was humble. The difference between MJ and Diddy is a chasm.
I agree with you but everybody is different and we can't control that. We just got to worry about our children teach them and raise them the RIGHT way
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Um.. Bashit kind of had a point when he asked if its responsible to have so many children with different women. To my mind that IS irresponsible and isnt setting a good example.
And what 16 year old kid needs a car worth that much?? The kid will probably end up killing himself because he doesnt have the experience to drive such a high powered car.
Remember.. Michael spent all of his days with his children and was hands on. He took all his parenting hands on. Also, he didnt spoil his kids.. to the point that i heard last Christmas he asked his kids what they wanted and they replied "nothing" and chose to give their gift to a charity instead.
Same as Princess Diana.. she made her kids queue up like normal kids when they went to Thorpe park.
I know we all hate Bashir for what he did.. but i think he brought up valid points here.
First: I don't see the need at all to compare Diddy's way of raising kids to Mike's or Princess Diana's.
Second: Diddy clearly tells Batshit that all of his kids are really well taken care of, and that he's there for his children as a father. Batshit keeps pointing out that Diddy is taking care of his family "financially", twisting Diddy's words. Is it Batshit's business what Diddy buys his son for his birthday? NO! It's not Batshit's business, and not anyone's business but Diddy's. Diddy was very right when he said: "I don't have to explain it to you or to anybody else" when talking about he was raising his children "as nobody knows how I raise my children". Indeed, Diddy can do whatever he wants for his children, and nobody has the right to question him what he does with his children.
The bottom line is: it's nobody's business but his, so don't judge like that. You don't know either how he's raising his kids. By judging like that, based on a Batshit interview, you are doing exactly the same as people did when Living with Michael Jackson aired, and we all know in what that resulted. I would think people would have learned a lesson...
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Um.. Bashit kind of had a point when he asked if its responsible to have so many children with different women. To my mind that IS irresponsible and isnt setting a good example.
And what 16 year old kid needs a car worth that much?? The kid will probably end up killing himself because he doesnt have the experience to drive such a high powered car.
Remember.. Michael spent all of his days with his children and was hands on. He took all his parenting hands on. Also, he didnt spoil his kids.. to the point that i heard last Christmas he asked his kids what they wanted and they replied "nothing" and chose to give their gift to a charity instead.
Same as Princess Diana.. she made her kids queue up like normal kids when they went to Thorpe park.
I know we all hate Bashir for what he did.. but i think he brought up valid points here.
First: I don't see the need at all to compare Diddy's way of raising kids to Mike's or Princess Diana's.
Second: Diddy clearly tells Batshit that all of his kids are really well taken care of, and that he's there for his children as a father. Batshit keeps pointing out that Diddy is taking care of his family "financially", twisting Diddy's words. Is it Batshit's business what Diddy buys his son for his birthday? NO! It's not Batshit's business, and not anyone's business but Diddy's. Diddy was very right when he said: "I don't have to explain it to you or to anybody else" when talking about he was raising his children "as nobody knows how I raise my children". Indeed, Diddy can do whatever he wants for his children, and nobody has the right to question him what he does with his children.
The bottom line is: it's nobody's business but his, so don't judge like that. You don't know either how he's raising his kids. By judging like that, based on a Batshit interview, you are doing exactly the same as people did when Living with Michael Jackson aired, and we all know in what that resulted. I would think people would have learned a lesson...
P Diddy made the decision to do that interview and answer the questions about his life. It wasnt my decision, he put it out there so i have every right to comment and have an opinion. I know the difference between right and wrong and i can see that Diddy has had 6 kids by different mothers and he likes to spoil them with cash NOT TIME.
Teenage boys will look up to Diddy and take his example as the way to be. Diddy is in the public eye. A lot of young lads will look up to him and think its ok to knock up girls and walk away to the next one.
And i think the way MJ raised his kids, and the way Diana did in comparison is very important.. they demonstrate that it can be done the right way despite the riches and priveleges and media attention.
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When i watch videos like that of other "stars" and how they act, and splash the cash around.. it makes me realise why i miss and love MJ so much.
MJ didnt do that. He was humble. The difference between MJ and Diddy is a chasm.
I agree with you but everybody is different and we can't control that. We just got to worry about our children teach them and raise them the RIGHT way
Thats true. I dont have children, but i get your point. :D
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IMO, I think Bashir love to bring down rich powerfull black men. He's a fucking idiot point blank
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Again:
Diddy clearly tells Batshit that all of his kids are really well taken care of, and that he's there for his children as a father. Batshit keeps pointing out that Diddy is taking care of his family "financially", twisting Diddy's words.
At that point the interview takes a turn, but Diddy did an excellent job telling Batshit to piss off and mind his own business.
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I am not saying diddy did not care about michael but he should have cared how that man treated his friend and either shown him up or not gone near the man
diddy and michael are not friends, where in the hell have you been, jesus :roll:
I have been here for nearly a year I agree idont know that much about diddy but being g interviews by that man is dodgy he can't be trusted to tell the truth that is being shown to him
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I am not saying diddy did not care about michael but he should have cared how that man treated his friend and either shown him up or not gone near the man
diddy and michael are not friends, where in the hell have you been, jesus :roll:
Please be polite I have always been polite here I treat people how I want to be treated don't be snippy Jesus
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Bashir is an ass. Diddy has he does have 6 children but 5 biological childern and a non biological son that he claims by 3 different women. I don't think it's anyones place to judge. He's not the only one with multiple babymamas. I don't have a problem with him buying his son an expensive car. His son Justin donating the 10,000 Diddy gave him to Haiti.
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Who cares about the parenting style. At least he's giving them a ride now Diddy I need a car how many of us wouldn't have wanted a dad who gave you a brand new car I know I would now where's my car? lol! Bashir i mean this man is dying and still he's trying to make another black man looked bad. Bashir it's not your fault these black men have made it big now stop twisting things :evil:
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first of all Diddy said he thought his children deserved more time, but its obvious he does what he could!! and honestly about the car, really he wanted to spoil his son for a specia; occasion and he could do it, if he had bought him an average car people woulve said oh look at diddy what a dead beat dad..he cant win with the public so I say do what you want and raise your kids how you think is right, I would be pissed if someone would question how I raise my kids when I have them, its no body's buisness but god and the parents
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I think this guy has a problem about comparing his personnal ideas about Life to other people's own life....
Is it being a "journalist" ?
I mean, who cares about what he thinks about having 6 kids, or having kids sleeping in your bedroom, or anything else...
To me, Bashir is a kind of old granny sitting in a rocking chair with knitting stuff on her knees, watching her neighboor's privacy and moaning about how bad is their life...
(high small voice)
"woooo...do you realise this ? he has 6 kids...And I tell you ! Not the same mother ! JESUS, I can believe I see this...not the same women ! I saw it you know ! It's so horrible to live like this...pooooor kids. Hopefully I raised my kids well ! They're all grown up now ! Not like those ones, running everywhere all the time ! I tell you ! They'll be in jail soon, with such a father, singing and dancing...not able to find a good job, not able to keep the same woman ! Like this other guy...hooo can't remember his name ! he was living with a monkey ! I tell you ! A monkey ! in the house ! The world is mad ! I tell you !!!"
What is good with old people like this is that you can feel happy knowing they will die sooner than you...
It doesn't seem to work with B**** :|
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Maybe he gave the kid the car and he wont be able to ride it till he is older. We don't know that.
Also have you ever thought that the show super sweet 16 is just each one trying to outdo the other. If Diddy had not done it in a big way there would be a lot said. That is what happens in reality shows, they show you sensationalism. But there are a few out there on that show that I think really overdo it. Diddy is known for his bling and flamboyance so he had to gift his son a big car. Whether he is allowed to drive it immediately or not is another story.
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well you know the sayin...once an ass always an ass lol
sorry i couldnt help myself!!
huggs to all
keep the faith
suzz
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Right.. so why is everyone defending Diddy for having 6 kids with different mothers yet Dr Murray has been vilified for all the baby mammas he has???
Im defending my position. Its not a good role model to have a man who has fathered these kids by different women. He could have put something on the end of it. Its about respecting the women as well as being a good father.
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And Batshit is getting once again what he wanted to get out of such an interview. To stir up controversy.
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did someone say michael never flashed his cash.
did u watch the bashir tapes, where michael spent like 2 million dollars in front of our eyes buying everything he was pointing too.
I remeber that clearly.
and if diddy is a good father he can spend whatever he wants for his son and it isnt anyones business. period. no if's end's or buts, raise your children your way and mind your business, thats the creedence we should live by. now if hes mistreating his children then thats another issue.
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MJ buying up everything in that store just felt different. It was almost a lonely compulsion for MJ. It was difficult to watch because something wasnt right about it, but my feeling was that MJ didnt want those things.. but he felt he needed to buy them to fill a void. It was the way he was pointing at everything and just buying.
Diddy seems to be doing it to be flash.
Its hard to explain.. but you never really saw MJ with bling, or big cars - he just didnt seem to flash it in the same way. He didnt seem to boast about it like Diddy.
I know what im trying to say but its hard to explain.
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Right.. so why is everyone defending Diddy for having 6 kids with different mothers yet Dr Murray has been vilified for all the baby mammas he has???
Im defending my position. Its not a good role model to have a man who has fathered these kids by different women. He could have put something on the end of it. Its about respecting the women as well as being a good father.
Of course you are free to think it's not a good way...but do you think your opinion should go public about the life of the people concerned by your interview ?
I mean, you can THINK whatever you want...I don't think you should be paid to SAY everything you think about everyone. Because it's only your thoughts, based on your personnal story and your personnal way of life.
This is what this guy makes : personnal opinion on other people. It's not being a journalist...Because the thoughts of this guy become "general opinion" for people being fed by his articles, not searching for what truth is. And he knows it. He doesn't care about WHO he is talking to. He only cares about what HE has to say about the person.
I THINK, it's not normal to life like this
according to ME, it's weird to do that
Let ME say, it can be dangerous for kids...
This is what comes out of his articles : ME, ME, ME....
But who cares about how this guy sees the world ?
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last I checked diddy was not in court for child support..
A parent's job is to take care of his kids emotionally and financialy
we cant judge him or Murray..
and MJ was known to be a big spender, and people blame that to his money issues
its kind of really sad when people feel like they have to fill a void with material things
I once cought an interview with 50 cent where he said he had nothing and carrying cash in his pocket and wearing all the diamonds was a way for him to deal with that..
I pray for diddy and all these celebs..
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MJ buying up everything in that store just felt different. It was almost a lonely compulsion for MJ. It was difficult to watch because something wasnt right about it, but my feeling was that MJ didnt want those things.. but he felt he needed to buy them to fill a void. It was the way he was pointing at everything and just buying.
Diddy seems to be doing it to be flash.
Its hard to explain.. but you never really saw MJ with bling, or big cars - he just didnt seem to flash it in the same way. He didnt seem to boast about it like Diddy.
I know what im trying to say but its hard to explain.
Wow, I love the term you used to be flash. I have never heard that term in USA slang before. I always thought that MJ had a passion for antique collecting and fine art. To me, he is an art connoisseur. I even read that he wanted to pursuit the Christie's art connoiseurhip program to be an art historian. It never crossed my mind that he was just buying items to fill a void in his life. That thought makes me very sad, and makes me what to cry. :cry: :(
I hope that MJ knows how much that we, the fans, love him and care for him with all our hearts. I will continue to pray for all these celebrities to be safe from the likes of MB. God bless all.
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MJ buying up everything in that store just felt different. It was almost a lonely compulsion for MJ. It was difficult to watch because something wasnt right about it, but my feeling was that MJ didnt want those things.. but he felt he needed to buy them to fill a void. It was the way he was pointing at everything and just buying.
Diddy seems to be doing it to be flash.
Its hard to explain.. but you never really saw MJ with bling, or big cars - he just didnt seem to flash it in the same way. He didnt seem to boast about it like Diddy.
I know what im trying to say but its hard to explain.
I don't know...we all do this sometime...just buy things...It's just that we don't have the same bank account than Michael :mrgreen:
I don't know why they "jumped" on this...we'll never know if it happened everyday, if he cancelled the purchase right after (maybe did it just to surprise B***) Maybe he had a house to fulfill with furniture and that's they way heloves to buy : everything in the same time.
I mean, when I'm doing shopping : I look everything, take my time, just because, I cannot spend my money the way I want (most of the time I have no money to spend, so no problem lol) But what about Michael ? he's allowed not to wonder. Just take what he wants.
Anyway, it's HIS money, and if he wants to burn it all in a big barbecue, and start everything back to the beginning, who cares, as long as it makes him feel good ?
I wasn't surprised of the way he was purchasing stuff, but I didn't understand why they wanted it to be seen as a freak attitude...It was just showing something "out of the blue". When you love a shop, and you love everything in the shop you just want to buy everything.you just tell yourself "if I could...I would buy everything" He CAN :roll: So what ?
What if Michael has no more money ? Well I think he never cared for money the way we do.
This video was just to make "everyday people" think Michael is a freak spending his money like playing Monopoly deserving to be poor some day.
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There is no need to compare Michael and Diddy. Anyone would have asked the same material. No, I don't think he's the greatest role model. Yes, It is our business that he bought his son that car because it was on national television. He made it our business. If they want things like that private don't put it on TV! If you put something on TV, expect an opinion. Michael had whatever he wanted too, look at Neverland. When he moved to Bahrain, he ordered a Ferrari. He was humble though, that's why he and Diddy are not alike. Long story short, these men worked for their belongings, they can do what they want, buy what they want. If you want this lavish lifestyle, it takes determination. I just hope they have given back, not judging. I know Michael has, he was the most charitable pop star. However it is okay to have an opinion about them. It's human nature. Just don't judge a person by what you hear. Truth.
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Right.. so why is everyone defending Diddy for having 6 kids with different mothers yet Dr Murray has been vilified for all the baby mammas he has???
I wish you good luck with finding a post made by me, in which I judge Murray for having children with different mothers.
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I never watch anything with Batshit in it because the man makes me ill.
I did watch this and I am sorry I did. Once again Batshit is trying to impose his screwed up agenda on the viewers. It doesn't matter to me what the topic was I don't think it's any of my business what Diddie buys his kids. Hell if I had the money I'd buy my son a fancy car too! One for me too! LOL!
This interview showed Batshit at what he does, twisting words and trying to judge people and impose his view on others. He looked like a fool to me! I am glad Diddie told him to bug off the subject. Even though Batshit was persistant, which to the viewers that was stressing what his point was, TO JUDGE THIS MAN.
Arrgghh I will never watch him again, ever. I watch one show on ABC, just one and I'll leave that network in the dark zone.
Batshit is a fool, so lets make sure that point is made. After all didn't Diddie say Batshit was a "mind f_cker"? Not gonna work on Diddie so give it up Batshit. Diddie calls them as he sees them.
Don't judge Diddie because Batshit told you to! Why don't you listen to Michael, all these years...sigh.
We miss you and love you MICHAEL!
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That Bashir just can't get out of his skin.
I can't say that I agree with Diddy for buying his son such car, but that is his own personal choice. I can't tell people how to live their life or how to raise children.
We shouldn't forget about the fact that a lot of women are trying to get pregnant with famous and rich people. He was probably very naive and now he has so many children with different women. That doesn't mean he is a bad father.
We shouldn't judge. Not everybody can live the way you or I live.
I specially don't want this asshole Bashir to preach about morality. He should mind his own business.
Fans wanna hear about the music not how much money he spent for a car.
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Batshit, learns nothing, definitely this man has the large intestine connected to the brain ... 8-)
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Batshit doesn't respect anyone....He twists any information and all he needs is a punch on his face.... He believes that he is so perfect that he is capable of judging everyone but himself!What an @ss! I wish Michael had diffended him self as Diddy did, but unfortunately he did not :(
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Batshit, learns nothing, definitely this man has the large intestine connected to the brain ... 8-)
LOL :lol:
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Aww so what? Diddy got his son a car...Im confused by the big ordeal? He has money so he can give his son a freaking car jesus! He has 6 children so what? he didnt go boink them and then never see them again. He abviously cares about his children. Every parent has their methods on raising a child. NOT Everyone raises their children like MJ and DIana. WHO CARES! His kids are well taken care of. He is not "flaunting" his money around. It was his kids 16th Bday...man on the 16th bday its all about the car lol.
If Diddy got his kid a car that was used and just average they would call him a money hog...who doesn't wanna spend his money on "bastard child". NO
If he gets his kid the high class car "Oh look at Diddy, being irresponsible"
His children can be spoiled...so what.
I personally am not a big fan of Diddy...but I still don't see why they are making a big deal about this f***ing car.
HAVE YOU GUYS EVER WATCHED SWEET 16?!? My friends have told me some rediculous presents that those children recieved.
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Why bring Dr. Murray into this? o_O
Everyone makes mistakes and no one is perfect. Just because we aren't P.Diddy fans doesn't mean we have to treat him with less respect or point a finger at him.
Some of Bashir's questions were reasonable, BUT he should know when to back down and he did go too far.
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There are children having no parents, raised like "little animals" in big cold buildings, having no family, no love...only a bed to sleep and food to eat (when they have) hoping they can go to school, and finally have a normal life...
And this guy is here, saying Diddy does no good exemple by getting his son a huge car !
It's time people get back on EARTH. Those kids have a roof over there head, a mother, a father, living in a country where food is not an everyday problem. I don't think being offered a car by your very rich father is that strange. Any parent would do if they had money. Even if it's "for fame" anyone who had money would do !
If I had money, I'd buy a brand new house to every people I know !
The problem about showing this on TV, is not about celebreties willing to show it, it's about people willing to see it ! Stars understood they have to do it if they want people to talk about them. People nearly don't care anymore about the artist : they're more interested in private life than all the rest ! THAT is sad my friends...Knowing that celebrities must expose their private life to still have a little fame, and not about their WORK only. When you have a job, a family to raise, and new album to sell, you just have to do what you need to do : deal with the media... That's how it is. Would media talk about Diddy if he was only talking about his work, his music...I don't think so...and just because media know this will make paper be sold, just because people care more about it.
When people want to know about a star, they buy tabloid to know about their private life ! not music paper to know how they work
Don't blame celebrities for playing this game.
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Bottom line is that Bashir shouldn't criticize, but celebs should know going into interviews these situations will happen. He's not going to say aww that's nice you got your kid a 500 thousand dollar car! Can you imagine how that makes normal families feel? Like they're not good enough if they don't have these things. That's what wrong with society. Rich people shouldn't advertise what they have. But that won't happen.
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Um.. Bashit kind of had a point when he asked if its responsible to have so many children with different women. To my mind that IS irresponsible and isnt setting a good example.
And what 16 year old kid needs a car worth that much?? The kid will probably end up killing himself because he doesnt have the experience to drive such a high powered car.
Remember.. Michael spent all of his days with his children and was hands on. He took all his parenting hands on. Also, he didnt spoil his kids.. to the point that i heard last Christmas he asked his kids what they wanted and they replied "nothing" and chose to give their gift to a charity instead.
Same as Princess Diana.. she made her kids queue up like normal kids when they went to Thorpe park.
I know we all hate Bashir for what he did.. but i think he brought up valid points here.
First: I don't see the need at all to compare Diddy's way of raising kids to Mike's or Princess Diana's.
Second: Diddy clearly tells Batshit that all of his kids are really well taken care of, and that he's there for his children as a father. Batshit keeps pointing out that Diddy is taking care of his family "financially", twisting Diddy's words. Is it Batshit's business what Diddy buys his son for his birthday? NO! It's not Batshit's business, and not anyone's business but Diddy's. Diddy was very right when he said: "I don't have to explain it to you or to anybody else" when talking about he was raising his children "as nobody knows how I raise my children". Indeed, Diddy can do whatever he wants for his children, and nobody has the right to question him what he does with his children.
The bottom line is: it's nobody's business but his, so don't judge like that. You don't know either how he's raising his kids. By judging like that, based on a Batshit interview, you are doing exactly the same as people did when Living with Michael Jackson aired, and we all know in what that resulted. I would think people would have learned a lesson...
P Diddy made the decision to do that interview and answer the questions about his life. It wasnt my decision, he put it out there so i have every right to comment and have an opinion. I know the difference between right and wrong and i can see that Diddy has had 6 kids by different mothers and he likes to spoil them with cash NOT TIME.
Teenage boys will look up to Diddy and take his example as the way to be. Diddy is in the public eye. A lot of young lads will look up to him and think its ok to knock up girls and walk away to the next one.
And i think the way MJ raised his kids, and the way Diana did in comparison is very important.. they demonstrate that it can be done the right way despite the riches and priveleges and media attention.
These stars are mega rich and no where near our level of living by any means. Personally, I am not concerned about how any of them raise their children. Yes! MJ did an awesome job rearing his children as well as Princess Diana. I am only speaking for myself when I say I never looked to either of them or anyone in the world as an example for parenting. Bashir was interviewing Diddy and I am all too certain Diddy was well aware of what was going to be asked. Diddy morally should set an example as a parent. In all honesty though how many mega rich have morals? Not many I can assure you. Diddy is free to do whatever he wants. At the end of the day everybody is going to have to give an account for the way they lived. God Bless him! Keep the Faith!
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I completly agree!!! No 16 year old needs that expensive of a car!! i don't care who your father is or how much momey he makes. In my opinion, Diddy is probaly compensating for the fact that he is not around that much. Not saying he is a bad father, but when you have 6 kids by i think 5 different women, you can't be in more than once place at a time!! Just my opinion.
Um.. Bashit kind of had a point when he asked if its responsible to have so many children with different women. To my mind that IS irresponsible and isnt setting a good example.
And what 16 year old kid needs a car worth that much?? The kid will probably end up killing himself because he doesnt have the experience to drive such a high powered car.
Remember.. Michael spent all of his days with his children and was hands on. He took all his parenting hands on. Also, he didnt spoil his kids.. to the point that i heard last Christmas he asked his kids what they wanted and they replied "nothing" and chose to give their gift to a charity instead.
Same as Princess Diana.. she made her kids queue up like normal kids when they went to Thorpe park.
I know we all hate Bashir for what he did.. but i think he brought up valid points here.
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So he doesn't live with ALL of his children but he does spend time with them & he has them sometimes. But he is the busy parent making money, while their moms have time for them, it makes sense that they would live with their moms. & so he's had kids with different women, he's not the first or the last man to do that. In fact some of the Jacksons have done that. Also if Omer is Michael's then he had kids with 3 different women, does that make him any less of a man? A bad father? NO. As long as they provide for their kids, that's fine. Michael spent everyday with his kids as a single parent because the moms agreed to sign over their rights to their kids, maybe Diddy's childrens' mothers wanted them. He takes care of his kids, you don't know the truth of the matter, so don't judge. We all saw how Bashir twisted MJ's words around so who's to say he didn't do that to Diddy? He presents his interviews & reports how he wants to & he comes into them with a strong opinion already, no surprise he'd turn things around to fit his point of view. :roll: I just really wish some people on here would stop being so hypocritical & judgemental when they preach against it when it comes to MJ. There's no difference you're doing the same thing! I don't judge Jermaine or Randy since I don't know what they do for their kids. But Jermaine has tons of kids with different women, NONE of them live with him, same with Randy, he's had kids with a couple of women too, his kids don't live with him either, at least we know Diddy provides for his. Just saying, however I'm not judging since like I said I don't know if Jermaine & Randy do support theirs or not, but a lot of you are so quick to jump on other people. When it comes to MJ don't believe everything you read or hear, Bashir is a liar, etc etc but it only applies to MJ? Come on guys...
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I feel in my bones that one day that little turd is gonna run up against some star who's gonna bash his teeth out. What kind of trash can we find on him? Out his ass. Gotta be something out there. Can we do that, investigative team? It would be a hoot :x
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We should dig up dirt on Bashir & post it on here, knowing TMZ follows us ;) Hopefully it's something good that they can pick up & post on their site! lol. That would be hilarious :mrgreen:
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We could start with the fact that batshit was related to mottola's driver and how mattola, uri gellar and batshit set Mike up in that doco. If we had enough dirt there we could definitely discredit him. Then I would like to go after Dianne Dimond. Such a vile woman
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I am not a huge Diddy fan but the man did work his way up from the bottom & built himself into the mogul he is today. If that's not a good example of hard work & determination, than I don't know what you would call it. Diddy never pretends to be anything other than himself, he never pretends to be like MJ or Diana so why is he being compared to them? Yes, he had 6 kids with 5 or 6 women but he had relationships with them. My Grandma was married 4 times, but that doesn't make her a bad mother or a bad example. Why would it? So someone falls for someone & has a relationship with them & they have a baby, so what? Whether it happens once or twice or several times, that's their choice, their life & things happen. As long as that person takes care of their children financially & they are a presence in their children's life, what's the problem? A bad example would be a person who goes & sleeps around & never claims their kids, doesn't support them & continues making babies they either don't want or can't afford. Or an abusive parent, or an addict, be it a drug addict or an alcoholic, etc. Tiger Woods could be described as a bad example, he is married & steps outside of his marriage & has affairs over & over again. Those are bad examples. All I see from Diddy is a father who loves his son & wants to give him the best 16th bday party & he bought him a car, that's great. Who are you to say that's wrong? He has the means to spoil his son, if he wants to his choice. Do you not think Diana's kids ever got cars for a birthday? lol. Sure she kept them grounded & didn't over spoil them, but I'm sure they were spoiled to an extent. It's easy for normal people like us to say why did he buy him a $500,000 car?! Because it's not what we're used to, but to stars & their kids it's normal life. We don't know Diddy, we don't know what kind of father he is, so really you can't judge him, yes he did the interview but come on it's Bashir, it could be twisted. & if people are going to compare Diddy to MJ & Diana then of course he could be compared to other fathers of many kids with several women such as Murray or Jermaine or even Randy. At least Diddy was never taken to court for not supportin his kids. At least he's buying them cars & spoiling them not their Grandma raising them or their Uncle helping to support them. Just saying. Think of all the kids in the world with nothing or no parents, at least their father is there to spoil them & you don't know if he donates to charity or what.
As for Bashir, let's take that BAS**** down! lol. & yes that's definitely a start!
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Great idea about digging dirt on Bashir...... and let's talk about BASHIR not batshit, because when people google name Bashir they can find what we wrote.
Does he have any children?
Is he married?
Does he live in US, now?
His childhood?
etc.
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Right.. so why is everyone defending Diddy for having 6 kids with different mothers yet Dr Murray has been vilified for all the baby mammas he has???
I wish you good luck with finding a post made by me, in which I judge Murray for having children with different mothers.
Bottom line is, young teenage boys look up to the likes of Diddy and other rappers and think its ok to get girls pregnant and walk away. Similarly, girls look at that behaviour and think its ok to let a man treat you like dirt and leave you holding the baby. Look at how they portray women in their videos.. its the wider picture i am talking about.
Its really not ok for so many reasons... and i dont care who the person is. Famous or not, rich or poor.. its not difficult to put something on the end of it and take that responsibility.
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Right.. so why is everyone defending Diddy for having 6 kids with different mothers yet Dr Murray has been vilified for all the baby mammas he has???
I wish you good luck with finding a post made by me, in which I judge Murray for having children with different mothers.
Bottom line is, young teenage boys look up to the likes of Diddy and other rappers and think its ok to get girls pregnant and walk away. Similarly, girls look at that behaviour and think its ok to let a man treat you like dirt and leave you holding the baby. Look at how they portray women in their videos.. its the wider picture i am talking about.
Its really not ok for so many reasons... and i dont care who the person is. Famous or not, rich or poor.. its not difficult to put something on the end of it and take that responsibility.
Let me ask you this - are you in Diddy's inner circle..? Do you KNOW why he has children with different woman..? No you don't, yet you judge him for that, and you hold him responsible for teenage boys getting girls pregnant and walk away because he's a celeb and teenagers look up to him? Oh my, I'm actually stunned...and I better zip it...
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Right.. so why is everyone defending Diddy for having 6 kids with different mothers yet Dr Murray has been vilified for all the baby mammas he has???
I wish you good luck with finding a post made by me, in which I judge Murray for having children with different mothers.
Bottom line is, young teenage boys look up to the likes of Diddy and other rappers and think its ok to get girls pregnant and walk away. Similarly, girls look at that behaviour and think its ok to let a man treat you like dirt and leave you holding the baby. Look at how they portray women in their videos.. its the wider picture i am talking about.
Its really not ok for so many reasons... and i dont care who the person is. Famous or not, rich or poor.. its not difficult to put something on the end of it and take that responsibility.
I know a lot of man for wanting to be with a woman and a child, but she wanted to leave, and is sad for a man that he doesn't have a choice.
We really don't know his relations to these women. Just try to remember MJ's sleeping with children. Everybody judged him for that not knowing how pure his love for children really is. Diddy could be a jerk, but we really don't know that. Bottom line is he bought his son this safe car to make him happy and that's what counts for me.
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Haven't read every posts .. but you guys .. Instead of commenting on how Bashit twists everything and how evil he is , you are judging Diddy.. :roll:
You are doing exactly what people did to MJ in 2003(was it 2003?..)
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Mind your own business seriously .
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I would just like to say, again. We don't know about Diddy's relationships with those women he had children with, so please don't assume he was just running around impregnating everyone. He was with those women, they had a child but it didn't work out & they broke up, things happen. Also, Diddy is a celebrity, he's mega rich who's to say some of those women didn't try to get pregnant with his kid so that he would always have to provide for them & the kid? Hmm? Riddle me that. lol. There's a lot of women out there like that just like there's tons of men who do run around making babies. Bottom line is nobody knows Diddy as a man or a father or even a boyfriend or husband, so don't judge. It's unfair & like someone said it's the same thing people always did to MJ. It's his son, his business, buzz off already. & to say he walked away from his kids, no obviously not, he still sees them, supports them & claims them, so clearly he didn't walk away. The kids live with their mothers & he is no longer with any of them so of course they don't live together like a family. Get over it please! Back to Bashir let's dig, he deserves it!! I hope we find something GOOD! lol. Evil, I know but hey he needs a taste of how he treats everyone else & what it's like to be judged.
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Seems Bashir is still being an a** and would do anything for ratings.
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I saw a small pRt of the interview and it was good too diddy stand up to bashir I have to admire him for that but I don't know a great deal about diddy but going back to michael he did spend a lot of cash but he is so generous do you remeber him saying I don't buy expensive jewelery because I wear watches etc and then I give them away all the time if somebody likes something I say here have it you never saw him with great big gold chains looking flash that's why we love him
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I am not going to question the life deprived of anybody, I the only thing that I see is to this Son of a bitch who continues damaging :evil:
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I am not going to question the life deprived of anybody, I the only thing that I see is to this Son of a bitch who continues damaging :evil:
You hit the nail on the head. It's not about Diddy. This is about the tactics bashir uses to make controversial journalism. Thereby getting himself attention and notoriety. Batshit is so self serving and at anyone else's expense. HE MUST GO DOWN!!!!
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This is what happens. We see an interview and they want us to judge them. This is what happened to Michael. They only make people seem arrogant, and careless. They want us to dislike Diddy just like they wanted us to dislike Michael. They cannot create these media targets anymore.
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This is what happens. We see an interview and they want us to judge them. This is what happened to Michael. They only make people seem arrogant, and careless. They want us to dislike Diddy just like they wanted us to dislike Michael. They cannot create these media targets anymore.
I sooo agree with you on that ;)
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Bashir is an asshole!!!!! As long as Diddy is taking care of his children financially and emotionally (which he seems to be doing) who the hell cares what kind of gifts he buys his own children?...Who are we to judge him? Bashir is steady trying to twist people's words around and portraying everyone in a negative light....and all of it needs to stop!!!
My message to Bashit: "What goes around comes around, karma is a bitch and i pray to God she always haunts you...hopefully someday you'll see all the pain you put people through with your lies" :x
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This is what happens. We see an interview and they want us to judge them. This is what happened to Michael. They only make people seem arrogant, and careless. They want us to dislike Diddy just like they wanted us to dislike Michael. They cannot create these media targets anymore.
I sooo agree with you on that ;)
I agree. There we go - Bashir probably destroyed another career, only because we let him. Can't you see? THIS is why he does what he does.
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http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/fir ... ashir.html (http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/fire-martin-bashir.html)
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Why you even watching Nightline? I thought we were boycotting that channel? I thought we had petition to get Bashir fired, and now you watch his show? Traitor to watch Night Line and promote promote Bashir to us. I don't watch anything on ABC EVER!
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This thread is all :o and :shock: why all the hate and anger?
All started about a "simple birthday" gift and then we all pass judgement?
How can we begin to judge when we do not know anything about the person/people apart from what is written by the media! Did we lean nothing these last 12 months at all ;)
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yes, batshit is still an ass. he did it again, trying to make an 'eccentric' star look bad. diddy does what he does, which is business in any way possible. he's obviously good at it, i bet he could turn shit into gold, too. i actually like his attitude cuz he doesn't 'pour the slime out', he speaks his mind. and he don't care less what anyone thinks about it, cuz he can afford it, literally! and i would say the exact same thing (rich or not): nobody questions me how i raise my kids, what presents i buy them or anything! period!
he has six kids with 'multiple' women, so what? if he had been married and divorced 3 times with the same number of kids, it wouldn't be such an issue at all and the situation would be the same. kids usually stay with their moms after a split. and let's not forget to take into account that those women knew very well who they were sleeping with...just sayin'...it takes two to tango.
he provides well for all his kids and their mothers and while a maybach for a 16 year old is really out there, it's diddy's business if he buys that for his son. i'm pretty sure he was smart enough to give him a chauffeur with the car. you don't drive a maybach yourself anyway, that's not classy. and diddy is all about class and style...
'mindf***er' batshit tried real hard, but this time, he bit on a hard rock...hehe...well done, diddy!
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Bottom line is the gift was inappropriate for a 16 year old KID. I don't care who the parents are, how much they worth, what they can spend on a gift.
IT'S TOO MUCH.
Where's Joe Jackson when someone needs to learn humbleness?
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Bottom line is the gift was inappropriate for a 16 year old KID. I don't care who the parents are, how much they worth, what they can spend on a gift.
IT'S TOO MUCH.
Where's Joe Jackson when someone needs to learn humbleness?
Hello!!!
Agreed!!!
You are right,where is Michael to teach us to be humble????? <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
P diddy did it again,lol <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
Remember what gift gave Diddy to his son for his 16 birthday??? :?: Well he did it again this year.After he gave Justin Bieber a Lamborghini on his 16 birthday,now it's his son turn,lol <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D --> again.His son has 17 now,and he for sure needs another new car "to go around" :lol: <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> .So his famous father bought for him another MAYBACH.Now my question here is what he will do with those cars????? <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: -->
I remember very well now what Michael use to teach his children about gifts and stuffs.Anyway if Diddy wants to do this ,it's ok.....no more talking <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) --> .
Diddy Buys his Son Another New Maybach
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*Diddy is one daddy that doesn’t disappoint. He just bought his 17-year-old son, Justin another Maybach for his birthday. He actually received his first Maybach when he turned 16, but this time it was not only for this birthday, but also for his good grades.
“Justin has turned himself around and is now an honors student, which he wasn’t before, so I wanted to treat him,” Diddy explained of the lavish gift valued at $390,000. “It’s a collector’s car so maybe he will use it for special occasions like on a first date, but like all my kids, he prefers the simpler things <!-- s:shock: -->:shock:<!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? --> than the expensive things. Simple tastes.”
Last year, the hip-hop mogul was criticized for giving his son such an expensive gift, which was chronicled on the MTV show ‘My Super Sweet 16.’ Diddy fought back at his critics, remarking that the opposition was based less around his finances and more around his skin color.
“The whole thing about giving a Maybach to my son, that’s really like a racist question,” he said in response to an interview with journalist Martin Bashir, who questioned his decision to give his son the car.
“You don’t ask white people what they buy their kids,” Diddy continued. “And they buy ‘em Porsches and convertible Bentleys, and it ain’t no question. It’s really a racist question and put things back in perspective with money and the way that people still look at you. And I’m not saying that consciously he’s a racist. But he probably don’t even realize that he would not ask Steve Jobs that. He would be like Steve Jobs has that money and that’s the gift his kid is supposed to get.”
Talking about Bashir here does anyone here knows what was the point to ask P Diddy about Biggie and Tupac crimes?????? :?: <!-- s:? -->:?<!-- s:? -->
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