Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
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Michael Jackson's Inner Circle Addresses Rumors
Decades of Working With Star Gave Three Stylist Friends Unique Insight Into the Real Michael Jackson
By JOSEPH DIAZ
June 25, 2010
It was the most private of times for the most public of people. Michael Jackson's family had his body taken to the Forest Lawn Cemetery in Los Angeles , the final resting place of so many of Hollywood's elite.
Michael Jackson as a werewolf in "Thriller." Karen Faye did his makeup.
To prepare Jackson for his final farewell, his family had turned to the three people who'd been dressing the star and making him up for more than a quarter century -- Dennis Tompkins, Michael Bush and Karen Faye.
"Nobody else could have [done it]," said Faye of the honor to make up her friend one last time. "I knew how he wanted to look. So I did it for his children." --> how could she know how he wanted to look? Huh, unless he was alive by that time
Stylists Tompkins and Bush designed brand new clothes for Jackson, incorporating elements from the King of Pop's favorite looks throughout his career. Tompkins, who created the majority of Jackson's most memorable outfits, described his stage attire as "Liberace gone to war."
Notably absent from Jackson's funeral attire, though, was his most iconic accessory -- that legendary single white sequin glove.
"To Michael, the glove was Billie Jean," said Bush. "That represented that song. That's not Michael Jackson."
These are people who knew the man behind the music; knew him stripped of the artifice he so cleverly showed the world. Private and never-before-seen images which ABC News paid to license from the three friends' personal collections provide snapshots of the global superstar's most unguarded moments.
Showman to the End
But at the time of his death, Jackson's inner circle was determined that the King of Pop would exit this earth as the world knew him: a showman.
For nine hours, Faye and Bush fought back their own grief and the overwhelming smell of formaldehyde to prepare Jackson for his final curtain call. After dressing him, Bush even helped to lift and place the body in the coffin.
"The work me and Karen did with Michael at Forest Lawn, that bonded us for life," said Bush.[/b] --> ?
In an exclusive interview for the "20/20" special "Michael Jackson: After Life," Tompkins, Bush and Faye talked with ABC's Cynthia McFadden about what it was like to work with the star -- and addressed persistent rumors that followed Jackson about his sexual orientation, his plastic surgery and his reported drug abuse. The interview marks the first time the trio has spoken publicly about their friend.
Karen Faye met Michael Jackson in 1982, when she was hired to do his hair and make-up for the "Thriller" album cover.
"He walked in; he was very shy but was very gracious," Faye remembered. "Everything was 'please' and 'thank you.'"
Faye said she was not at all intimidated by his fame. For example, when she saw that Jackson had with him a baby tiger, she flashed her tiger-print underwear.
"He went 'Ah!'" Faye said while demonstrating how he covered his face. "He was just so embarrassed by that. But I think that's why he called me back the next job. He liked people who have a sense of humor."
Michael Jackson Stylist Friends Comment on Rumors
The conventional wisdom is that Jackson began taking painkillers after his hair caught fire during the taping of a 1984 Pepsi commercial. Faye maintained that wasn't the case. She said the musician's use of prescription drugs began in 1993 -- almost ten years after now-infamous commercial.
"Just before we went on tour for "Dangerous," he had an operation, in order to help the scarring. But he didn't have enough time to heal," said Faye. "So in order to keep going, he started using painkillers, because it is very painful when nerve endings are severed."
Faye said she has no idea what drugs Jackson was taking.
Sexual Abuse Rumors
Bush and Faye were with the star in Bangkok when Jackson's world exploded: California authorities announced they were investigating the singer for allegedly sexually abusing a 13-year-old boy.
"The day that came out, he was stepping onstage in front of 80,000 people," recalled Bush.
"It was devastating," said Faye, "because he had to go out every day in front of a world and the media that was [saying] he was pedophile."
Faye said painkillers "gave [Jackson] the ability to get through" the combination of the emotional pain brought about by the allegations and his already existing physical pain.
A few months after the allegations came to light, Jackson settled out of court with his accuser for a reported $20 million.
Then, nearly a decade later, another boy came forward, also claiming that Jackson had sexually abused him. The boy was seen in a British documentary holding hands with the musician, and Jackson spoke of their sharing a bed. The remark fueled Jackson's prosecution.
"He said the word 'bed,'" recalled Bush. "A lot of people think sexual, and that is the farthest thing from Michael's mind."
Jackson's inner circle is adamant that the star was not a pedophile or homosexual, as many have speculated. According to his friends, Jackson constantly checked out the "hot girls" who appeared in his videos.
Jackson was acquitted on all charges after a three-and-a-half month trial. The taint of the accusation, however, lingered. The trial on the second round of allegations was devastating for Jackson.
Karen Faye and Michael Bush were at Neverland early every morning to get their friend and boss ready for court.
"Before I washed his hair, we knelt down on the ground and [Jackson] put his arms around me and wept. We would pray for God to help us and for people to know the truth," said Faye, adding that situation was just "vicious" and tore Jackson up inside.
Each day when he walked into the courtroom, running the gauntlet of cameras, he wore a new outfit designed by the stylists who became his friends -- a small morale booster.
Michael Jackson: Plastic Surgery Rumors
In his art, Michael Jackson played repeatedly with the idea of metamorphosis. Many of his music videos, including "Thriller," "Black or White" and "Remember the Time" feature him morphing into someone or something else.
Nowhere was the theme more prominent than in the little-known mini-movie "Ghosts," in which Jackson becomes a middle-aged white man.
As his makeup artist for more than 25 years, Karen Faye knew Jackson's face almost as well as he did. She said one thing is certain: Jackson had vitiligo, a skin condition producing white blotches.
As for the eyeliner and lipstick Jackson preferred, Faye said: "He didn't like the line that was drawn between what's allowed for men and what's allowed for women."
Faye acknowledged that Jackson had plastic surgery. "He was always trying to perfect everything," she said. Faye denied, however, rumors that the star had a prosthetic nose.
"It was the tape that he used to wear on his nose to [help] keep it in form or else it would expand," she said. But she admitted that she personally thought Michael Jackson went a little too far with plastic surgery.
'This Is It'
Soon after Jackson announced his final tour, "This Is It," Faye received a call from him asking if she would team up with him once again.
Faye says she sensed he was frightened of being judged again. He was still stung by the worldwide backlash against him.
"Standing up in front of an audience, all that fear, all that doubt, all the cruelty people directed at him, he was afraid," said Faye. "He didn't want to go through that again."
Faye said she was concerned that Jackson was too thin to do the show. As the clock ticked, the pressure mounted.
The tour was going to be his first major appearance since the trial ended, and it would be the first time his children would him see perform on stage. The stage was his element, a place he had electrified countless times, dazzling millions, since hitting it big as child superstar in 1969.
Faye, Bush and Tompkins couldn't comment on whether Jackson was taking any medications while preparing for the "This is It" tour, because the three anticipate being witnesses at the upcoming trial of Dr. Conrad Murray, Jackson's personal physician. But they say they were all extremely concerned about the star's well-being.
According to Bush, Jackson was "bone-thin."
"I feared he was physically unable to do the shows," Faye said.
The Day the News Came
On June 25 last year, Karen Faye was waiting for Jackson at the Staples Center to begin rehearsals when she got the news she dreaded -- Jackson had been rushed to the hospital.
She then got a phone call from her boyfriend, who said he heard news reports that Jackson had suffered a heart attack.
"So many things went through [my] mind," Faye said. "But because of my fears I knew it was probably true."
According to Faye, the tour's director and choreographer, Kenny Ortega, instructed everyone to carry on as usual.
But then the moment came.
"I was headed back to my make-up room," said Faye, "and Kenny came out of his office and he put his arms around me and whispered, 'He's gone. We lost him.' And my knees just collapsed."
Faye said she believes that if people paid attention, the world would still have its King of Pop, Michael Jackson. She said she takes solace in remembering all the great times she had with the star, and the laughter that first brought them together.
Watch the full two-hour special "Michael Jackson: After Life" tonight on "20/20" at 9 p.m. ET
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/MichaelJacks ... 573&page=1 (http://abcnews.go.com/2020/MichaelJackson/michael-jackson-circle-address-rumors/story?id=11002573&page=1)
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Thanks for posting this. This kind of makes me sad...I hope there is a happy ending to all of this. She was right about something...if the world had paid attention we would still have Michael Jackson with us. :(
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Does it really take nine hours to put makeup on and dress a body nobody will ever see? And wasn't it LaToya who said she dressed him?
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^^Right!9 hours? for a "closed casket???" I never heard Latoya say she dressed him.......is that possible/allowed?????????????? for a family member to take part in the preparation of a body??????????
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^^Right!9 hours? for a "closed casket???" I never heard Latoya say she dressed him.......is that possible/allowed?????????????? for a family member to take part in the preparation of a body??????????
Way back in the early days I think when the old MJHD was sitll running, there was a thread about what he would wear to be burried in and who made the arrangements Think it was an old article see if I can find it.
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Edit here you go :)
http://www.people.com/people/package/ar ... 24,00.html (http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20287787_20303824,00.html)
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00025605.html (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00025605.html)
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I don't think anyone needs to be sad about what Karen says; she's playing her role as well.
Oh yes what did she say again about that very vivid dream she had?
About MJ coming back on the 25th of November...
Anyway she's doing her job...
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Meanwhile, Jackson's longtime stylists Dennis Tompkins and Michael Bush spent nine hours creating the clothes for Jackson's funeral. Tompkins also designed a crown which was placed on the King of Pop's casket.
He recalls, "When the casket was brought in at Forest Lawn, Prince, Paris and Blanket lifted it (crown) and put it on the center." And Bush has confirmed the tragic singer's famous white sequined glove was not buried with Jackson: "To Michael, the glove was 'Billie Jean'. That represented that song. That's not Michael Jackson."
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We were told he was burried with the glove! Now it seems he was not
How many times will they twist the story?
And no, that's not Michael Jackson ;D
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"That's not Michael Jackson" is an odd thing to write there. And "if the world had paid attention we would still have Michael Jackson with us." Well, we pay attention, so we have MJ with us--we believe strongly! :)
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WHO can we trust? contradictions all the time :cry:
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I thought that LaToya said that he was buried with his glove on! When I watched that interview I was shocked when I heard that. I actually argued with the T.V. because of it. Good thing no one was around, otherwise they would have thought that I really did go crazy.
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^^Right!9 hours? for a "closed casket???" I never heard Latoya say she dressed him.......is that possible/allowed?????????????? for a family member to take part in the preparation of a body??????????
is it possible/allowed for family to make the death announcements instead of the officials?? i guess the jacksons r not only actors/singers they r dr's ,funeral directors too!!! :lol:
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I thought that LaToya said that he was buried with his glove on! When I watched that interview I was shocked when I heard that. I actually argued with the T.V. because of it. Good thing no one was around, otherwise they would have thought that I really did go crazy.
Yes your right, here is a link to it.
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00025605.html (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00025605.html)
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"It was the tape that he used to wear on his nose to [help] keep it in form or else it would expand,"
Michael used tape to make his nose appear thinner, this accounts for differences in nose width in pictures. This width difference has been used as evidence for the doubles theory. I don't believe that doubles were used except as decoys for large crowds or paparazzi escapes and illusions on stage.
I remember watching a video of one of the professional impersonators using this tape technique to make his nose appear slimmer when he was getting in his makeup for his impersonation show. I just can't recall his name at the moment or else I would post the video.
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is it just me or do any of you think possibly that it would be a reach to call these people someones inner circle
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I was just wondering does anyone think 9 hours seems too long. Doesn't the funeral home provide these services? Did anyone notice the commercials during the program? One was for a show call Minds Games and another was about how much you can get for $25,000 for an underground emergency shelter. I thought that was interesting.
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So in the inner circle interview the glove was not on him, and LaToya says it was. 9 hours work--why not 6 or 8? Who dressed him -KF or LaToya? Does anyone know if KF was at the FL funeral, because it so then she would surely know it was a hoax, being filmed in green screen in studeo set. I'm firmly convinced she's in on it and her role keeps the lies alive. She's not wearing the tiger underpants for nothing, fierce and powerful. She's really no worse than Conrad Murray who plays the murderer. Kenny Ortega told her that MJ was gone and she collapsed, the same KO that was all smiles and tweeted that “Smee: Captain, the ice is melting, the sun is out and the flowers are all in bloom..." and said at the memorial that they had just seen MJ a week before which was days after his "death". I'm completely convinced KF is in on it. She will testify at the trial apparantly and she will make it very interesting.
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Michael Jackson's Inner Circle Addresses Rumors
Decades of Working With Star Gave Three Stylist Friends Unique Insight Into the Real Michael Jackson
By JOSEPH DIAZ
June 25, 2010
It was the most private of times for the most public of people. Michael Jackson's family had his body taken to the Forest Lawn Cemetery in Los Angeles , the final resting place of so many of Hollywood's elite.
Michael Jackson as a werewolf in "Thriller." Karen Faye did his makeup.
To prepare Jackson for his final farewell, his family had turned to the three people who'd been dressing the star and making him up for more than a quarter century -- Dennis Tompkins, Michael Bush and Karen Faye.
I feel those three names was Particularly CHOSEN - for THAT hoax role, NO RANDOM PEOPLE CAN PERFORM THE SERVICE THAT THEY DID - AND FOR SURE NOT STEP OUT LATELY OFF THEIR PART.
But have to admit - their reaction on CNN interview of last year anniversary 625 look Very Real , just sadness and tears...
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Ok, several things make ZERO sense here:
Like most of you pointed out - 9 hours for 3 (!!!) people to make up and dress one body, aha.
All of them were Michael's make-up artists, right - now let me ask you this, is it normal for make-up people to work with formaldehyde? I suppose 99,9% of make-up people actually do make-up for LIVING persons, I would like to hear KF for instance to explain to me how she applied formaldehyde on Michael's face (excuse me???). Or did she do her practice in a morgue? Would be interesting to find out.
I COULD understand that the family might want KF or anyone close to have a final touch on Michael's face - when it comes to MAKE-UP (not pumping the body with formaldehyde) but having three make-up people perform a 9-hour mumification...YEAH RIGHT.
If Michael really had wanted to be "mumified" I'm sure they'd get professionals to do it - that is people who work with DEAD bodies, right??
Last point: why all that hassle if NOBODY (and I mean not a single person) EVER saw Michael dead or his dead body for that matter. Because regardless if LaToya said it was her who did make-up (BS)or if he was buried with his glove on (BS)...eventually, everyone (including Katherine) admitted they NEVER ACTUALLY SAW MICHAEL'S BODY in the coffin. Now believing THAT is another story - what loving mother (for which Katherine is a synonym) would not want to see her son for the last time????
I'll be happy if someone can find explanations for these...
:)
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Apparently nobody. Good! :-D
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I just wrote a post on this....
Re: Teddy Riley - @TeddyRiley1
DancingTheDream wrote:Michael Bush also said he dressed Michael in his coffin... so its not just Karen Faye... :?
Sinderella wrote:There are many posts and threads on this topic already in existence on the forum.
It is not protocol for family/friends/personal assistants or make up artists to do make up on a body waiting for burial.
My cousin was killed a few weeks after June 25th,when I look at Michael's death from the start to now,I compare it with his death.Whether you are a multi millionaire super star or not,the autopsy,tests,prep for burial/funeral are the same.
The coroners have their own specialised make up artists who are trained to work on corpses.You have to have specialised training and in some cases a degree.
Working on a dead body is not the same as a live one,they are decomposing,if they have been in accidents they will have injuries,autopsy scars,parts missing...etc.
For those reasons and for mental health also,you have to be trained to work on them.
They use specialist make up and fillers-my cousin had to have some of his face filled in because of his injuries so my aunt could see him before the funeral.They worked on him for 24hours to get him to a decent looking state so she would see him looking like he was-kinda.
How could a grieving relative or friend work on someone they love dearly,when their lifeless,cold...it is NOT allowed.
In an article I read not long after it said they did tests in the autopsy on Michael's brain and it was removed and some taken for tests,then given back to the body before he was put in FL.....there is NO WAY IN HELL they would let LaToya his sister who is supposed to be mourning his death,Karen fucking Faye or Michael Bush in to do make upon Michael OR dress him and let them see him with half his head missing/sown back up and the usual Y cut from the autopsy.
No family member or friend of a dead human being is allowed to just waltz in and get their maybelline out.
It's just an absurd claim to make,and so as I said complete and utter BS.
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Annndd..If there was a new outfit designed for him to be buried in, tell me that those designs wouldn't be out there for the world to see what Michael was buried in. Also, if they didn't want him with the glove, why dress him as the superstar and not just as a family member. Back down to earth. No they did him as a superstar, so of course the glove. And, the clothing they put on dead bodies aren't really on if I'm not wrong. They are cut up the back because corpses don't bend. So maybe Karen, Latoya, whoever, put his makeup on..if we give them that lie. But, they are saying the dressed him? They--I'm about sure--didn't see him naked, and yet would've wanted to, or did it after he was dead??? Esp. after autopsy? GET REAL!!!!
Also, just when was this suppose to have happened? After the autopsy, before the brain return? Before the memorial, before the funeral?? There is a lot of time between all this..time in which bodies have to be in a FREEZER....so, was he thawed out then they put make up on him, or did they put it on frozen and he's begin to dethaw in 9 hours!... If they did it prior to freezing, (which I'm sure they do it after because it would melt with the thawing) then they had him there without his brain because as long as that took he'd have to be in the freezer, which means, the work they did, hair and all would've been lost when they put the brain back in. NONE of it is logical and don't FIT!! Maybe it passes to the world, but to us who are LOOKING are reading the signs and investigating...the pieces of the puzzle and the events just don't fit. THEY COULDN'T HAPPEN.
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I just wrote a post on this....
Re: Teddy Riley - @TeddyRiley1
DancingTheDream wrote:Michael Bush also said he dressed Michael in his coffin... so its not just Karen Faye... :?
Sinderella wrote:There are many posts and threads on this topic already in existence on the forum.
It is not protocol for family/friends/personal assistants or make up artists to do make up on a body waiting for burial.
My cousin was killed a few weeks after June 25th,when I look at Michael's death from the start to now,I compare it with his death.Whether you are a multi millionaire super star or not,the autopsy,tests,prep for burial/funeral are the same.
The coroners have their own specialised make up artists who are trained to work on corpses.You have to have specialised training and in some cases a degree.
Working on a dead body is not the same as a live one,they are decomposing,if they have been in accidents they will have injuries,autopsy scars,parts missing...etc.
For those reasons and for mental health also,you have to be trained to work on them.
They use specialist make up and fillers-my cousin had to have some of his face filled in because of his injuries so my aunt could see him before the funeral.They worked on him for 24hours to get him to a decent looking state so she would see him looking like he was-kinda.
How could a grieving relative or friend work on someone they love dearly,when their lifeless,cold...it is NOT allowed.
In an article I read not long after it said they did tests in the autopsy on Michael's brain and it was removed and some taken for tests,then given back to the body before he was put in FL.....there is NO WAY IN HELL they would let LaToya his sister who is supposed to be mourning his death,Karen fucking Faye or Michael Bush in to do make upon Michael OR dress him and let them see him with half his head missing/sown back up and the usual Y cut from the autopsy.
No family member or friend of a dead human being is allowed to just waltz in and get their maybelline out.
It's just an absurd claim to make,and so as I said complete and utter BS.
I know, love. Confirming what I'd said before.
And fordtocar is backing it up :-)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD_Lx23YQe4.Hi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD_Lx23YQe4.Hi) all I just thought I would share this with you.They start talking about what he was wearing from about 7.10..There are 2 other parts also.When La Toya says 2 black gloves reminded me of another V connection.Cheers
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Thank you!!!
Will check it out now...all BS...but I will watch haha xo
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No worries only too glad to help.Cheers