Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Persons Of Interest => Legal Advisors => John Branca & John McClain => Topic started by: DancingTheDream on July 04, 2010, 10:17:52 PM

Title: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED HIM
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 04, 2010, 10:17:52 PM
At this point in the game, I have been reading and researching about Michael Jackson for almost one year. There are so many players in the life of Michael Jackson that it is sometimes hard to keep them straight and to remember facts. However, one figure is impossible to forget. JOHN BRANCA. The names of Michael's children are misspelled, making the will's validity questionable. The letter that Michael Jackson wrote to John Branca in 2003, ordering the attorney to "cease expending any effort of any kind on my behalf" and the termination of Branca and his law firm's services. For the 4 people left of the planet who have not read the original document themselves, here is a link where you can read it: http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/2009/11/ ... ranca.html (http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/2009/11/letter-from-michael-jackson-to-branca.html)

I must admit that I've wavered about John Branca. So I decided to research Branca's alleged "crimes" and the hysteria that has caused fans to not only detest him, but to publicly denounce the validity of the will and Branca's executorship of the Michael Jackson Estate. I decided to start researching from the point where Tom Mesereau came into the picture. Tom Mesereau seems to be universally loved by Michael Jackson fans. And so, I start with Mesereau and the '05 trial.


Branca is accused of being fired in 2003 by Michael Jackson. Michael, at the time, believed there was a conspiracy to force him into involuntary bankruptcy, in order to gain control of the ATV catalog. The letter above attests to this; that in fact, Michael did fire Branca in 2003. Per the letter, Michael then hired attorney David LeGrand to investigate the many people who surrounded Jackson at the time. At this point in time, Michael was surrounded by people who did not have Jackson's best interests at heart. Among them were Ronald Konitzer and Deiter Weisner.


The results of David Legrand's investigation became a turning point for Michael Jackson's 2005 trial. When questioned by Tom Messereau, LeGrand stated that Jackson had in fact, hired him to investigate the people surrounding MJ in 2003. Under oath and penalty of perjury, LeGrand stated that there was no evidence that Branca had anything to do with any offshore accounts, period. He also stated that Ronald Konitzer and Deiter Wiesner had informed LeGrand that they wanted to manage Michael Jackson's business affairs, which made LeGrand suspicious. According to court transcripts of the 05 trial:



Mesereau: "Didn't you investigate Mr. Branca because you were concerned that he
and SONY had set up an offshore account to funnel money so they could defraud Michael Jackson?


LeGrand: "...I instructed the firm Interfor to investigate Mr. Branca because Mr.
Konitzer had indicated in several conversations that he was very concerned about Mr. Jackson and that Mr. Jackson had expressed concern about Mr. Branca's loyalty."


Mesereau: "As far as the John Branca...investigation by Interfor, Interfor never
found any evidence that Mr. Branca...(was) engaged in any fraud with Mr. Jackson right?"


LeGrand: "I was given no credible evidence to support those charges. I would be
doing Mr. Branca a great wrong if I said otherwise."


There is much more to this testimony that the few lines that I wrote here, but it clearly maintains that Branca did not embezzle funds. Both Tom Mesereau and Michael Jackson were in that courtroom and both were fully aware that Branca was innocent of those charges. A link to the copy of the court transcripts is here: http://www.geniusmichaeljackson.com/cou ... 202005.txt (http://www.geniusmichaeljackson.com/court/Transcripts/Court%20Transcript%205%2013%202005.txt)


LeGrand maintained that those who were whispering in Jackson's ear, Konitzer and Wiesner, had also taken nearly $1 million from Michael Jackson without his knowledge. In addition, LeGrand helped to bolster the defense's claim when he stated that Janet Arviso "seemed satisfied being there (at Neverland). She expressed support for Mr. Jackson." Link: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/ ... 4915.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/12/entertainment/main694915.shtml)


First point, LeGrand found that Branca had NOT been involved in any offshore account embezzlement, and Michael Jackson rehired John Branca. Second point...when John Branca was either fired or left Michael Jackson's employ...he sold his ATV equity interest BACK TO MICHAEL JACKSON. Branca owned 5% of the ATV....and I REPEAT...HE SOLD IT BACK TO MICHAEL JACKSON!

Does anyone understand that if John Branca's first loyalty was to SONY, that he would have sold his interest in the ATV to SONY? This 5% that Branca owned, would have given SONY a majority stake in the ATV, and left Michael Jackson with considerably less control.

Yes, Branca sits on the board at SONY. But so does Ahmed Al Khan...does anyone know who HE is? Khan is the King of Bahrain's personal counsel, who also renegotiated Michael Jackson's finances with Sony while Jackson's was staying there. And conveniently, Ahmed Al Khan now ALSO sits on the board at SONY. And yes, Branca's LAW FIRM did represent SONY, but not Branca personally. Are there connections? Yes. Enough damning evidence to try and convict Branca? I don't think so.

Third and last point...has anyone considered that Michael Jackson might have hired Branca 8 days before he died to PROTECT him? I've read on so many blogs that Michael KNEW...he knew and lived in fear that someone would murder him. Has anyone considered that he hired Branca and possibly DiLeo because he knew that in his fear and desperation, Jackson may have reached out to those who he felt would protect him and his best interests?

http://mjandjustice4some.blogspot.com/2 ... ranca.html (http://mjandjustice4some.blogspot.com/2010/07/mesereaus-thoughts-on-john-branca.html)
Title: Re: BRAMCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: PinkTopaz on July 04, 2010, 10:20:32 PM
I knew that- and, Souza has tried to tell peeps before that he's trustworthy but no one really cared. He's helping with the money biz-ness until the big boss gets back, LOl!
Title: Re: BRAMCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 04, 2010, 10:23:40 PM
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
I knew that- and, Souza has tried to tell peeps before that he's trustworthy but no one really cared. He's helping with the money biz-ness until the big boss gets back, LOl!

Another thing this does is dismiss the idea that MJ was confused and "out of it" and didnt know what he was doing or who he was hiring.

I think MJ knew what he was doing and he hired Branca and Dileo back in a full and sober mind.
Title: Re: BRAMCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: PinkTopaz on July 04, 2010, 10:28:41 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "PinkTopaz"
I knew that- and, Souza has tried to tell peeps before that he's trustworthy but no one really cared. He's helping with the money biz-ness until the big boss gets back, LOl!

Another thing this does is dismiss the idea that MJ was confused and "out of it" and didnt know what he was doing or who he was hiring.

I think MJ knew what he was doing and he hired Branca and Dileo back in a full and sober mind.
Of course, gurl! Since learning of the hoax, I long ago came to the conclusion that just about every "story" about him in the media since last year is totally bogus- drug addict, setting up "concerts", and especially all of these people taking advantage of him.. Yeah, his life was/in danger, but that doesn't mean he let every rat who came his way take what they wanted from him.. I'm very tired of that "helpless" image he's been given..
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: 2good2btrue on July 04, 2010, 10:49:52 PM
Thankyou for that information and all your hard work......gee, I feel like I'm slacking off a bit.  Good work guys....it's all for L.O.V.E  xoxoxo
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: voiceforthesilent on July 05, 2010, 01:32:21 AM
Thank you for this information. I've come to the same conclusions as those stated above.

I'm still on the fence where Sony is concerned but I think Michael's legal team is keeping Michael's best interest at heart and I think they are doing a great job so far. Now, come November, if that ATV catalog gets sold to Sony I might have to change my thinking but right now all looks well.  Michael is in control.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: hope on July 05, 2010, 02:37:40 AM
Good work Dancing the Dream. It makes me feel better about Branca, but, If this is a hoax, and Branca is involved in anyway with it, He could be disbarred for it. I dont know if he would risk his career to be involved in a faked death, no matter who it is. :?
Also, how do we explain the Supposed forged signature, mix up of where the will was signed and the misspelled kids names?
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 05, 2010, 09:31:10 AM
Quote from: "hope"
Good work Dancing the Dream. It makes me feel better about Branca, but, If this is a hoax, and Branca is involved in anyway with it, He could be disbarred for it. I dont know if he would risk his career to be involved in a faked death, no matter who it is. :?
Also, how do we explain the Supposed forged signature, mix up of where the will was signed and the misspelled kids names?

The will is puzzling, i know.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: deedee75 on July 05, 2010, 10:02:36 AM
I am sorry but I'll believe this when I see MJ alive and well
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 05, 2010, 10:09:33 AM
Quote from: "deedee75"
I am sorry but I'll believe this when I see MJ alive and well

Its in the court transcripts from 2005.  They investigated Branca and he didnt embezzle funds.  It was proven to be a false rumour.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: *Mo* on July 05, 2010, 10:45:51 AM

Here's the thing I'm still puzzled about...

On November 9, TMZ published the following article:


Quote
Joe Jackson Guns For Branca, McClain
Originally posted Nov 9th 2009 5:25 PM PST by TMZ Staff

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2009/11/09/0717_joe_jackson_ex_2-1.jpg)

Michael Jackson never signed his will and the named executors have committed fraud, according to legal papers just filed by Joe Jackson.

As we first posted on TMZ ... there was a clerical mistake in the will. The document indicates Jackson signed the will in L.A., yet he was in NYC on the day in question. We're told the will was in fact signed in New York and the witnesses saw Michael put pen to paper.

Joe doesn't think it was a clerical mistake -- he thinks his son never signed the will. Joe Jackson claims John Branca and John McClain should be booted as administrators because they concealed what Joe calls a "fraud."

Joe Jackson -- through his lawyer, Brian Oxman -- claims Jackson fired Branca in 2003 and believed the attorney embezzled MJ's money. Joe claims an "investigation" showed an improper relationship between Branca and Tommy Mottola and the two were "illegally funneling Michael Jackson's money to off-shore accounts in the Caribbean."

Oxman attached a copy of the "investigation" -- conducted by a company called Interfor -- which says "Some sources in the entertainment industry think highly of Branca. However, other sources suggest that he has built his career on the strength of his clients to a point where are (sic) rumors of irregularities involved in accounting fees."

The report goes on to suggest Branca contacted the Justice Department after he was fired and allegedly dropped a dime on Jackson, suggesting MJ's new lawyer -- Alvin Malnik -- was utilizing "Jackson's financial resources and cash business to facilitate Malnik's comprehensive money laundering activities."

As we've already reported, Jackson re-hired Branca before the singer died.

UPDATE: Howard Weitzman, the lawyer for Branca and McClain, tells TMZ: "These claims filed by Joe Jackson are so outrageous that they don't deserve any response. John Branca and John McClain, who were designated by Michael Jackson in his will as executors of his estate, will continue carrying out Michael's wishes for the benefit of his mother, his children and charities."

http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/09/joe-jacks ... challenge/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/09/joe-jackson-michael-jackson-john-branca-will-challenge/)

ET Online supplied us with the document.  Here's a screenshot from that document:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/branca01.jpg)

The document states that Mike terminated Branca on February 3, 2003.  That letter is included in the document, however there's no exact date on it:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/letter_branca.jpg)
Click for larger version: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... _large.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/letter_branca_large.jpg)


According to http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2003.html (http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2003.html) on February 3, 2003:
Quote
Living With MIchael Jackson, the Martin Bashir Documentary is premiered in on ITV and gets phenomenal ratings!

According to http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2003.html (http://mjjtimeline.blogspot.com/2009/08/2003.html) on February 5, 2003:
Quote
Schaffel also hires David LeGrand, a new layer based in Las Vegas.


So...who hired David LeGrand, and how come David LeGrand is mentioned in the letter Mike sent to Branca on February 3rd, while he wasn't hired until 2 days later?


Then, we have an article by the Associated Press, titled "Jackson had long history with estate executor", published on 8/14/2009 on http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32418795/ ... ent-music/ (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32418795/ns/entertainment-celebrities/ns/entertainment-music/), stating:[/b]

Quote
No involvement in the will
In 1997 a will was drafted for Jackson — but not, Branca says, by him. Instead, he said he assigned it to a member of his firm who specialized in wills and trusts. It was redone in 2002 because one of Jackson’s children had not been born at the time of the first.

Branca said he played no role in advising Jackson on it, but knew the singer did not want a family member in control of his estate. Jackson also felt he did not have to take care of his brothers and sisters, Branca said.

By 2006, Branca says, his relationship with Jackson was troubled once again. The star was listening to an increasingly odd set of advisers — a revolving door of characters who Branca feared did not have the singer’s best interests at heart.

“He was surrounded and I had to resign,” he said. “He did not ask me to stay. I resigned amicably.”

And then, a little more than a month before Jackson died, the call came from Jackson’s former manager, Frank Delio.

“Michael wants you to come back,” Delio told him. “He wants you to give some thought to what you can do for him, what kind of deals.”

Branca drafted an agenda and met with Jackson on June 17 at the Forum in Los Angeles, where the King of Pop was rehearsing for his big comeback.

“I hadn’t seen him in several years,” Branca said. “We hugged each other. He said, ‘John, you’re back.’ It was very emotional. I showed him the agenda.”

It was what Jackson wanted, Branca said — including a concert movie, books and merchandising deals.

“That agenda is exactly what John McClain and I are doing now,” Branca said, “for the estate.”

No mentioning of Branca being fired in 2003, but resigning in 2006 due to a troubled relationship with mike because of an increasingly odd set of advisers — a revolving door of characters.


The thing is - Mike was in Florida in 2003 with Malnik when that Batshit documentary aired.  We know that Schaffel, Wiesner & Konitzer didn't have the best intentions.  My question is: Who signed and sent that letter to Branca..?
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 05, 2010, 11:41:36 AM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

The thing is - Mike was in Florida in 2003 with Malnik when that Batshit documentary aired.  We know that Schaffel, Wiesner & Konitzer didn't have the best intentions.  My question is: Who signed and sent that letter to Branca..?

Yeah, not to mention all the other shit they have thrown at us. Too many MJ's...too many signatures. But who planned what? Is it even possible for us to find out?
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: *Mo* on July 05, 2010, 12:10:22 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "*Mo*"

The thing is - Mike was in Florida in 2003 with Malnik when that Batshit documentary aired.  We know that Schaffel, Wiesner & Konitzer didn't have the best intentions.  My question is: Who signed and sent that letter to Branca..?

Yeah, not to mention all the other shit they have thrown at us. Too many MJ's...too many signatures. But who planned what? Is it even possible for us to find out?

I guess that's another $64.000 question to add to the list...
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: Datroot on July 05, 2010, 12:11:39 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Yeah, not to mention all the other shit they have thrown at us. Too many MJ's...too many signatures. But who planned what? Is it even possible for us to find out?

I guess that's another $64.000 question to add to the list...


Someone may have scanned MJ's signature in.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: *Mo* on July 05, 2010, 12:30:10 PM
Quote from: "Datroot"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Yeah, not to mention all the other shit they have thrown at us. Too many MJ's...too many signatures. But who planned what? Is it even possible for us to find out?

I guess that's another $64.000 question to add to the list...


Someone may have scanned MJ's signature in.

No, someone has been forging his signature, there are too many differences.


I'm throwing them in again:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/signatures01.jpg)
Full size image here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... ures02.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/signatures02.jpg)

1: Marriage license Lisa Marie Presley
2: The Chandler settlement
3: Letter concerning participation in project "The Way of the Unicorn/The Endangered Ones"
4: The will
5: Moonwalk
6: Passport issued in 1987
7: Letter firing John Branca
8: Letter to Diane Williams, cease and desist from signing for his certified mail
9: Letter to Judge Melville substitution of Tom Mesereau in place of Geragos
10: Passport issued in 1993
11: Drivers license
12: AEG contract signature "Michael Jackson"
13: AEG contract signature "The Michael Jackson Company LLC, Name: Michael Jackson"
14: Contract mayor city of Gary concerning The Michael J Jackson Performing Arts Center
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: MissG on July 05, 2010, 12:40:28 PM
The Legal signature would be the ones in the DL and passport right? The ones where the finger print is requiered.
(http://gracemj.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/b4.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/mjpassport.jpg)
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: MissG on July 05, 2010, 12:42:11 PM
The Estate is handeling the money and money claims pretty well ;)
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: *Mo* on July 05, 2010, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
The Legal signature would be the ones in the DL and passport right? The ones where the finger print is requiered.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/mjpassport.jpg)

The signatures in the passports are different.  The signature in the 2003 passport tends to the left, while the one in the 1997 passport doesn't.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 05, 2010, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Datroot"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Yeah, not to mention all the other shit they have thrown at us. Too many MJ's...too many signatures. But who planned what? Is it even possible for us to find out?

I guess that's another $64.000 question to add to the list...


Someone may have scanned MJ's signature in.

No, someone has been forging his signature, there are too many differences.


I'm throwing them in again:

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/signatures01.jpg)
Full size image here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... ures02.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/signatures02.jpg)

1: Marriage license Lisa Marie Presley
2: The Chandler settlement
3: Letter concerning participation in project "The Way of the Unicorn/The Endangered Ones"
4: The will
5: Moonwalk
6: Passport issued in 1987
7: Letter firing John Branca
8: Letter to Diane Williams, cease and desist from signing for his certified mail
9: Letter to Judge Melville substitution of Tom Mesereau in place of Geragos
10: Passport issued in 1993
11: Drivers license
12: AEG contract signature "Michael Jackson"
13: AEG contract signature "The Michael Jackson Company LLC, Name: Michael Jackson"
14: Contract mayor city of Gary concerning The Michael J Jackson Performing Arts Center


I am afraid the different signatures will be denied as much as the doubles...
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: MissG on July 05, 2010, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"

The signatures in the passports are different.  The signature in the 2003 passport tends to the left, while the one in the 1997 passport doesn't.

How would we know which one is the legal one then? Both come from a legal ID.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: *Mo* on July 05, 2010, 01:53:15 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "*Mo*"

The signatures in the passports are different.  The signature in the 2003 passport tends to the left, while the one in the 1997 passport doesn't.

How would we know which one is the legal one then? Both come from a legal ID.

I guess that's ANOTHER $64.000 question to add to the list...  :?
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: MissG on July 05, 2010, 02:00:36 PM
Sig-12 and Sig-13 don´t come from the same other hands. The rest, 1 to 14 excluding 12 and 13 follow the same traction, imo.

12: AEG contract signature "Michael Jackson"
13: AEG contract signature "The Michael Jackson Company LLC, Name: Michael Jackson"
 Are the odd ones.

Sig-7 looks also odd. Not spontaneious.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: billiejean17 on July 05, 2010, 02:03:22 PM
I for one always knew that Branca was to be 2 be trusted!
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 05, 2010, 02:13:45 PM
But peoples signatures do change...   mine has changed over the years.  The way i signed my signature in my teens changed when i got into my 20's and has evolved since then too..   so if someone analysed my signature over the years, they would see changes.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: MissG on July 05, 2010, 02:15:24 PM
But there is an unconcious motion in the tracing of the lines that makes it unique. Even if the sig changes.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: mjj29081958 on July 05, 2010, 02:21:47 PM
You're right Gema, but that can only be said by a Professional, with the original copy of these documents in the hands.

We only can speculate with this bad-quality copies...
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: MissG on July 05, 2010, 02:29:28 PM
But the copies show something at least! The passport copies are the clue.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: ~Souza~ on July 05, 2010, 03:02:18 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
But there is an unconcious motion in the tracing of the lines that makes it unique. Even if the sig changes.

Exactly!
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: PinkTopaz on July 05, 2010, 10:07:24 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Quote from: "Gema"
The Legal signature would be the ones in the DL and passport right? The ones where the finger print is requiered.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/mjpassport.jpg)

The signatures in the passports are different.  The signature in the 2003 passport tends to the left, while the one in the 1997 passport doesn't.
I thought we had only seen passports fron '87 and '93? Where's a 2003 one?
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: mjj29081958 on July 05, 2010, 10:16:26 PM
I think she wanted to say 1987 by saying 1997 and 1993 by saying 2003.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: mjj29081958 on July 05, 2010, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
But the copies show something at least! The passport copies are the clue.

Yes, but every conclusion you reach analizing these signatures is not gonna prove anything, quite the opposite it will be more "guessing" to add confussion and missunderstanding to our list.

These signatures could seems to be different yet made by one same person and vice-versa, so you really need a Handwriting Expert and the original papers. The rest is guessing.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: sweet1 on July 05, 2010, 10:23:05 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "hope"
Good work Dancing the Dream. It makes me feel better about Branca, but, If this is a hoax, and Branca is involved in anyway with it, He could be disbarred for it. I dont know if he would risk his career to be involved in a faked death, no matter who it is. :?
Also, how do we explain the Supposed forged signature, mix up of where the will was signed and the misspelled kids names?

The will is puzzling, i know.

That will is only puzzling to us. MJ knew exactly what he was doing and so did his attorneys. The truth will be revealed in due season. Keep the Faith!
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: MissG on July 06, 2010, 05:43:21 AM
Quote from: "mjj29081958"
Quote from: "Gema"
But the copies show something at least! The passport copies are the clue.

Yes, but every conclusion you reach analizing these signatures is not gonna prove anything, quite the opposite it will be more "guessing" to add confussion and missunderstanding to our list.

These signatures could seems to be different yet made by one same person and vice-versa, so you really need a Handwriting Expert and the original papers. The rest is guessing.

The original documents I lack. May be not the expertise  ;)
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: *Mo* on July 06, 2010, 06:16:10 AM
Quote from: "mjj29081958"
I think she wanted to say 1987 by saying 1997 and 1993 by saying 2003.

Yep...sorry I messed the dates up!
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: Rita Hayworth on July 06, 2010, 11:25:43 AM
I'm going to maintain an open mind about this one. For the following reasons:

1)  The estate has been handling the money well because they have a vested interest to do so. They get 10% (or at least 10%) of all of the earnings coming in on top of their billable hours. Not bad.

2)  I still believe that Randy is the one brother that I am sure of is in on the hoax. He won Michael's trust during the trail and when he suggested that he hire Messereau. He doesn't believe the will is valid and neither did Katherine...until she found out that if she contests the will, she jeopardizes her share. Randy's point is valid, Michael wasn't even in CA when the will was signed.

3) Just because "they" found Branca not involved in one particular instant, doesn't mean that there weren't other issues. Michael had reason to be suspicious. There had to be something else.

Until the will is validated, I'm not 100% about anybody. The whole estate is based on the validity of the will.
That's too big of an issue to just ignore.

One possibility....maybe this is part of Michael's big lasso that will "trap" everyone involved.

I'm one of those who doesn't have enough proof yet to know what the truth is.
Title: Re: BRANCA is INNOCENT!! MJ hired him back as he TRUSTED H
Post by: Kludo on July 26, 2010, 07:35:00 AM
Branca held the Will of the Legal Entity Michael Joseph Jackson

Legrands Testimony was used in the Defence of the Legal Entity Michael Joe Jackson

Branca held the cards for one. But the other was proven innocent.
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