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Title: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 15, 2010, 01:47:33 AM
I first have to say I will need people's input and help.
I am not a bible scholar but, I do follow the "holy spirit" and right now I am being lead...

Please add your findings.
Thank you.
Peace

A closer LOOK At The ARK and 777 "Warning"
Taken from TIAI Revealed, Part 8: The End Is Near  (R43 - R48)

viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1931&p=27579#p27579 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1931&p=27579#p27579)

This is a subject not being addressed yet. I feel it is the most misunderstood aspect and the most Important warning to us in This "hoax" and "wake up" Call.

R47. Ark of the Covenant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant)

“The truth will prevail!” For those who are not prejudice, and are willing to examine the evidence carefully, the true Ark will stand out in striking contrast to any and all fake arks. In fact, did you know that the number seven is one of the main keys to unlock the mystery of the true Ark? Did you know that seven will be God’s most important number in the final battle between good and evil?

Almost everyone knows that the Ark of the Covenant was designed to contain the Ten Commandments—which are based on the two main concepts of love for God, and love for mankind (see Matthew 22:36-40); it’s all for love. If everyone in the world was following the Ten Commandments right now, then we wouldn’t need to heal the world—because the world would not be sick!!!

777 and The Ark.
 Seven Trumpets Warning...

Joshua 6:4-20 (Amplified Bible)

4And seven priests shall bear before the ark seven trumpets of rams' horns; and on the seventh day you shall march around the enclosure seven times, and the priests shall blow the trumpets.

    5When they make a long blast with the ram's horn and you hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the enclosure shall fall down in its place and the people shall go up [over it], every man straight before him.

    6So Joshua son of Nun called the priests and said to them, Take up the ark of the covenant and let seven priests bear seven trumpets of rams' horns before the ark of the Lord.

    7He said to the people, Go on! March around the enclosure, and let the armed men pass on before the ark of the Lord.

    8When Joshua had spoken to the people, the seven priests bearing the seven trumpets of rams' horns passed on before the Lord and blew the trumpets, and the ark of the covenant of the Lord followed them.

    9The armed men went before the priests who blew the trumpets, and the rear guard came after the ark, the priests blowing the trumpets as they went.

    10But Joshua commanded the people, You shall not shout or let your voice be heard, nor shall any word proceed out of your mouth until the day I tell you to shout. Then you shall shout!

    11So he caused the ark of the Lord to go around the city once; and they came into the camp and lodged in the camp.

    12Joshua rose early in the morning and the priests took up the ark of the Lord.

    13And the seven priests bearing the seven trumpets of rams' horns before the ark of the Lord passed on, blowing the trumpets continually; and the armed men went before them and the rear guard came after the ark of the Lord, the priests blowing the trumpets as they went.

    14On the second day they compassed the city enclosure once and returned to the camp. So they did for six days.

    15On the seventh day they rose early at daybreak and marched around the city as usual, only on that day they compassed the city seven times.

    16And the seventh time, when the priests had blown the trumpets, Joshua said to the people, Shout! For the Lord has given you the city.

    17And the city and all that is in it shall be devoted to the Lord [for destruction]; only Rahab the harlot and all who are with her in her house shall live, because she hid the messengers whom we sent.

    18But you, keep yourselves from the accursed and devoted things, lest when you have devoted it [to destruction], you take of the accursed thing, and so make the camp of Israel accursed and trouble it.

    19But all the silver and gold and vessels of bronze and iron are consecrated to the Lord; they shall come into the treasury of the Lord.

    20So the people shouted, and the trumpets were blown. When the people heard the sound of the trumpet, they raised a great shout, and [Jericho's] wall fell down in its place, so that the [Israelites] went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 15, 2010, 03:33:59 AM
In the Quran it is mentionned:
[2:248] Their prophet said to them, "The sign of his kingship is that the Ark of the Covenant will be restored to you, bringing assurances from your Lord, and relics left by the people of Moses and the people of Aaron. It will be carried by the angels. This should be a convincing sign for you, if you are really believers."

It is in reference of the story of Saul, him being chosen by God to be King and this same history is narrated in the Bible's Book of I Samuel, Ch. 9 and 10.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_Samuel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_Samuel)

TS said in the update that muslims were also waiting for the Ark to be discovered by "Mahdi", I just wanted to say that "Mahdi" is not mentionned in the Quran so I take this information with grand reserve.

"On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant, which he said had been kept safe and secure in a church in Axum, Ethiopia. The following day, on 26 June 2009, the patriarch announced that he would not unveil the Ark after all, but that instead he could attest to its current status."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the ... dox_Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant#Ethiopian_Orthodox_Church)

I don't understand. If it has really been discovered why decide to keep it secret after having thrown the information that an announcement would be made about it ? And the date of 25 June 2009 is very intriguing. What a "coincidence" !

When you begin to search for the Ark you realize that it can be everywhere in the world, so many theories are on the internet that I really don't know what to think about it anymore.

TS also said "When the time is right, there will be further information about the Ark of the Covenant." I'm impatient to know more about it, this subject is very interesting and TS seems to know more.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 15, 2010, 06:36:09 PM
Quoting TS, I know it was mentioned before that it isn't necessary to quote TS but, I am for the simple reason below.

The first words are "Almost everyone knows" and I think that it is becoming OBVIOUS that almost everyone should KNOW. From what I am seeing in this "hoax" Love has been the ONE thing being forgotten.

"Almost everyone knows that the Ark of the Covenant was designed to contain the Ten Commandments—which are based on the two main concepts of love for God, and love for mankind (see Matthew 22:36-40); it’s all for love. If everyone in the world was following the Ten Commandments right now, then we wouldn’t need to heal the world—because the world would not be sick!!!"

It's ALL for L.O.V.E.
Matthew 22:36-40 (Amplified Bible)

36 Teacher, which kind of commandment is great and important (the principal kind) in the Law? [Some commandments are light--which are heavy?]

    37 And He replied to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind (intellect).

    38 This is the great (most important, principal) and first commandment.

    39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as [you do] yourself.

    40 These two commandments sum up and upon them depend all the Law and the Prophets.



@Sarahli,

Thank you very much for your input. I do have many theories and understanding on this subject. My point in this topic and asking for help was to get more people to think.

The fact that TS knows what's up shouldn't stop any of us from digging.
I shall return with more.

I am lead by "the holy spirit"
Peace


I am back. Adding more into the knowledge base....lol

There is ALOT to gain from this info. It leads to other theories. Connecting the DOTS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments)

From the wiki article...

The Revelation at Sinai
 
Moses with the Ten Commandments by Rembrandt (1659)According to the Bible, Moses remained 40 days and nights atop Mt. Sinai, also called Mount Horeb, receiving God's revelation. Moses then conveyed God's commandments to the Children of Israel in the third month after their Exodus from Egypt. Israel's receipt of the commandments occurred on the third day of preparations at the foot of the mount.

According to Jewish tradition, God's revelation at Mt. Sinai is a critical moment in the confirmation of the covenant between God and the nation of Israel, and one of the highpoints of Jewish history. Historians are divided as to the location of Mt. Sinai and whether all the tribes that would later constitute David's kingdom were present; some question whether it actually occurred.

 The first revelation
The Ten Commandments were not the only laws revealed to Moses at Sinai. Exodus 21-23 contain a miscellany of laws conventionally called the "Book of the Covenant". These two revelations are not named until Exodus 24, which refers to a "book of the covenant"(Exodus 24:7) and "stone tablets" (Exodus 24:12) as two parts of the revelation.

 The second revelation
While receiving the Ten Commandments and the Book of the Covenant, the Children of Israel compelled Aaron to build a calf out of molten gold to serve as an altar for sacrifices to God. Upon seeing this, Moses flung the stone tablets in anger Exodus 32:192; consequently, Moses had to re-ascend Mt. Sinai to receive a new set of tablets from God. This event occasions a recapitulation of the account of God's inscribing two stone tablets Exodus 34:1-4, and conveying the Book of the Covenant Exodus 34:10-28, in a highly condensed form in Exodus 34, what historians call "the Small Covenant Code."

The TEN COMMANDMENTS:

According to Jewish tradition, Exodus 20:2-17 constitutes God's first recitation and inscription of the Ten Commandments on two tablets, which Moses presented to the Children of Israel who had left Egypt before placing in the Ark of the covenant. Deuteronomy 5:6-20 consists of God's re-telling of the Ten Commandments to the generation born during the wandering in the desert, and after the revelation at Sinai, prior to their entry to the land of Canaan. According to critical historians, each version was written by a different author (or set of authors) at different times during the history of the Kingdoms of Judah and Israel, or during the Babylonian Exile.


Combined...
The Ten Commandments Exodus 20:2–17 Deuteronomy 5:6–21
2 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
3 Do not have any other gods before me.

4 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,

6 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

7 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.

8 Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.

9 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.

10 But the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, your son or your daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the alien resident in your towns.

11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but rested the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and consecrated it.

12 Honor your father and your mother, so that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

13 You shall not murder.

14 You shall not commit adultery.

15 You shall not steal.

16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

17 You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
 6 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
7 you shall have no other gods before me.

8 You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

9 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me,

10 but showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

11 You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.

12 Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you.

13 For six days you shall labour and do all your work.

14 But the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God; you shall not do any work—you, or your son or your daughter, or your male or female slave, or your ox or your donkey, or any of your livestock, or the resident alien in your towns, so that your male and female slave may rest as well as you.

15 Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you to keep the sabbath day.

16 Honor your father and your mother, as the Lord your God commanded you, so that your days may be long and that it may go well with you in the land that the Lord your God is giving you.

17 You shall not murder.

18 Neither shall you commit adultery.

19 Neither shall you steal.

20 Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbor.

21 Neither shall you covet your neighbor’s wife. Neither shall you desire your neighbor’s house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 15, 2010, 07:52:40 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
In the Quran it is mentionned:
[2:248] Their prophet said to them, "The sign of his kingship is that the Ark of the Covenant will be restored to you, bringing assurances from your Lord, and relics left by the people of Moses and the people of Aaron. It will be carried by the angels. This should be a convincing sign for you, if you are really believers."

It is in reference of the story of Saul, him being chosen by God to be King and this same history is narrated in the Bible's Book of I Samuel, Ch. 9 and 10.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_Samuel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_Samuel)

TS said in the update that muslims were also waiting for the Ark to be discovered by "Mahdi", I just wanted to say that "Mahdi" is not mentionned in the Quran so I take this information with grand reserve.

"On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant, which he said had been kept safe and secure in a church in Axum, Ethiopia. The following day, on 26 June 2009, the patriarch announced that he would not unveil the Ark after all, but that instead he could attest to its current status."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the ... dox_Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant#Ethiopian_Orthodox_Church)

I don't understand. If it has really been discovered why decide to keep it secret after having thrown the information that an announcement would be made about it ? And the date of 25 June 2009 is very intriguing. What a "coincidence" !

When you begin to search for the Ark you realize that it can be everywhere in the world, so many theories are on the internet that I really don't know what to think about it anymore.

TS also said "When the time is right, there will be further information about the Ark of the Covenant." I'm impatient to know more about it, this subject is very interesting and TS seems to know more.

Here is my thoughts and theories on the unveiling (hype) of THE ARK...
News articles to the world.


It is called deception... the evil one (devil, satan) who roams this earth to deceive and destroy and FOOL God's people, leading them astray and away from God (if he can) and even just people in general into believing that the ARK a man made article, (bobble) would give them the info they need.
Which is the devil's Job, lol

When in fact I believe the "true ARK" is as written below. (See Revelation reference). It is not in some false IDOL box but in the heavens with God himself and in his word.

According to the Book of Revelation, the Ark is in the Temple of God in Heaven in vision: "Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the Ark of his Covenant" (Rev. 11:19 NIV).

My theory is this that on June 25 2009 The Church was going to unviel a GREAT DECEPTION upon the world to deceive them into thinking they had to worship a golden box..lol

When ArchAngel Michael  "died" on the same day, he is a "positive light" counteracting the "negative" that was about to deceive. When Michael "died" on the same day, No one paid attention to the false Idol and was consumed by The ArchAngel Michael, who is in MY opinion the Seventh Angel warning us of the end times.

He counteracted falseness with truth and opened up the seventh seals of knowledge.

Revelation 5:1 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 5
 1 AND I saw lying on the open hand of Him Who was seated on the throne a scroll (book) written within and on the back, closed and sealed with seven seals;


Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
 1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.
   
2 But leave out of your measuring the court outside the sanctuary of God; omit that, for it is given over to the Gentiles (the nations), and they will trample the holy city underfoot for 42 months (three and one-half years).

    3 And I will grant the power of prophecy to My two witnesses for 1,260 (42 months; three and one-half years), dressed in sackcloth.

    4 These [witnesses] are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand before the Lord of the earth.

    5 And if anyone attempts to injure them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their enemies; if anyone should attempt to harm them, thus he is doomed to be slain. [II Kings 1:10; Jer. 5:14.]

    6 These [two witnesses] have power to shut up the sky, so that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying (their prediction of events relating to Christ's kingdom and its speedy triumph); and they also have power to turn the waters into blood and to smite and scourge the earth with all manner of plagues as often as they choose.

    7 But when they have finished their testimony and their evidence is all in, the beast (monster) that comes up out of the Abyss (bottomless pit) will wage war on them, and conquer them and kill them.

    8 And their dead bodies [will lie exposed] in the open street [(a public square) of the great city which is in a spiritual sense called [by the mystical and allegorical names of] Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified.

    9 For three and a half days men from the races and tribes and languages and nations will gaze at their dead bodies and will not allow them to be put in a tomb.

    10 And those who dwell on the earth will gloat and exult over them and rejoice exceedingly, taking their ease and sending presents [in congratulation] to one another, because these two prophets had been such a vexation and trouble and torment to all the dwellers on the earth.

    11 But after three and a half days, by God's gift the breath of life again entered into them, and they rose up on their feet, and great dread and terror fell on those who watched them.

    12 Then [the two witnesses] heard a strong voice from heaven calling to them, Come up here! And before the very eyes of their enemies they ascended into heaven in a cloud. [II Kings 2:11.]

    13 And at that [very] hour there was a tremendous earthquake and one tenth of the city was destroyed (fell); seven thousand people perished in the earthquake, and those who remained were filled with dread and terror and were awe-struck, and they glorified the God of heaven.

    14 The second woe (calamity) has passed; now the third woe is speedily to come.

    15 The seventh angel then blew [his] trumpet, and there were mighty voices in heaven, shouting, The dominion (kingdom, sovereignty, rule) of the world has now come into the possession and become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ (the Messiah), and He shall reign forever and ever (for the eternities of the eternities)!

    16 Then the twenty-four elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin], who sit on their thrones before God, prostrated themselves before Him and worshiped,

    17 Exclaiming, To You we give thanks, Lord God Omnipotent, [the One] Who is and [ever] was, for assuming the high sovereignty and the great power that are Yours and for beginning to reign.

    18 And the heathen (the nations) raged, but Your wrath (retribution, indignation) came, the time when the dead will be judged and Your servants the prophets and saints rewarded--and those who revere (fear) Your name, both low and high and small and great--and [the time] for destroying the corrupters of the earth.

    19 Then the sanctuary of God in heaven was thrown open, and the ark of His covenant was seen standing inside in His sanctuary; and there were flashes of lightning, loud rumblings (blasts, mutterings), peals of thunder, an earthquake, and a terrific hailstorm. [I Kings 8:1-6.]


The Lion of Judah represents Jesus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah)

Revelation 5:5 (Amplified Bible)
5 Then one of the elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin] said to me, Stop weeping! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root (Source) of David, has won (has overcome and conquered)! He can open the scroll and break its seven seals!

Peace

P.S. Anyone can still add to this any knowledge they know. I am NOT the wisest One here, or religious. lol
I just think and interpret this info and connect DOTS and I am being lead by the holy spirit to see truth and understanding.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 15, 2010, 08:20:14 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals)

http://freestockphotos.com/SevenSeals.html (http://freestockphotos.com/SevenSeals.html)

http://www.wake-up.org/Revelation/RevSeals.htm (http://www.wake-up.org/Revelation/RevSeals.htm)

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Agent M...


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Agent MJ,
Miss Castaway...

http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
Miss Castaway + Southpark = 2012
10:20 AM May 27th via web

Warnings...

[youtube:306zujsw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz86TsGx3fc[/youtube:306zujsw]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah's_Ark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah's_Ark)
The Book of Genesis, chapters 6-9, tells how God sends a great flood to destroy the earth because of man's wickedness and because the earth is corrupt.



Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 16, 2010, 01:06:17 AM
I have no religious opinion one way or the other when it comes to interpreting the Revelations. I come into this with no objective or agenda, I am just providing info, after which everyone is entitled to decide whether to believe or not. And everyone is entitled to interpret as they will. That is what free will is all about.

I am not leaning one way or another with a pre-conceived "knowing". Of whom is The lamb of today (the One who is worthy to open the seven seals) and of whom is Archangel Michael (The seventh angel blowing his trumpet of warnings and pouring out his bowel upon the earth)? My theories are above.
I am just learning this as I go, studying.


Peace

Revelation 5 (Amplified Bible)

Revelation 5
 1 AND I saw lying on the open hand of Him Who was seated on the throne a scroll (book) written within and on the back, closed and sealed with seven seals;

    2 And I saw a strong angel announcing in a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the scroll? And [who is entitled and deserves and is morally fit] to break its seals?

    3 And no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth [in the realm of the dead, Hades] was able to open the scroll or to take a [single] look at its contents.

    4 And I wept audibly and bitterly because no one was found fit to open the scroll or to inspect it.

    5 Then one of the elders of the heavenly Sanhedrin] said to me, Stop weeping! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root (Source) of David, has won (has overcome and conquered)! He can open the scroll and break its seven seals!

    6 And there between the throne and the four living creatures (beings) and among the elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin] I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God the sevenfold Holy Spirit] Who have been sent [on duty far and wide] into all the earth.

    7 He then went and took the scroll from the right hand of Him Who sat on the throne.

    8 And when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin] prostrated themselves before the Lamb. Each was holding a harp (lute or guitar), and they had golden bowls full of incense (fragrant spices and gums for burning), which are the prayers of God's people (the saints).

    9 And [now] they sing a new song, saying, You are worthy to take the scroll and to break the seals that are on it, for You were slain (sacrificed), and with Your blood You purchased men unto God from every tribe and language and people and nation.

    10 And You have made them a kingdom (royal race) and priests to our God, and they shall reign [as kings] over the earth!

    11 Then I looked, and I heard the voices of many angels on every side of the throne and of the living creatures and the elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin], and they numbered ten thousand times ten thousand and thousands of thousands,

    12 Saying in a loud voice, Deserving is the Lamb, Who was sacrificed, to receive all the power and riches and wisdom and might and honor and majesty (glory, splendor) and blessing!

    13 And I heard every created thing in heaven and on earth and under the earth [in Hades, the place of departed spirits] and on the sea and all that is in it, crying out together, To Him Who is seated on the throne and to the Lamb be ascribed the blessing and the honor and the majesty (glory, splendor) and the power (might and dominion) forever and ever (through the eternities of the eternities)!

    14 Then the four living creatures (beings) said, Amen (so be it)! And the elders of the heavenly Sanhedrin] prostrated themselves and worshiped Him Who lives forever and ever.

 :ugeek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Spirits_of_God (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Spirits_of_God)
The Seven Spirits of God
The Seven Spirits of God are mentioned four times in the Book of Revelation:

Rev 1:4 - John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Rev 3:1 - And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Rev 4:5 - And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Rev 5:6 - And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

 Sevenfold Ministry of the Spirit
A common teaching on the seven Spirits claim that Book of Isaiah 11:2 somehow supports the symbolic interpretation of the seven Spirits. Charles Caldwell Ryrie writes in his commentary on Revelation, "The "seven Spirits" likely represent the sevenfold ministry of the Spirit as depicted in Isaiah 11:2." (Revelation - Everyman's Bible Commentary, p. 14)

Isaiah 11:2 reads, "The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord."

 Wikisource has original text related to this article:
Isaiah (KJV)
 Wikisource has original text related to this article:
Revelation (KJV)
1 — the Spirit of the Lord;
2 — the Spirit of wisdom;
3 — the Spirit of understanding;
4 — the Spirit of counsel;
5 — the Spirit of might;
6 — the Spirit of knowledge;
7 — and the Spirit of the fear of the LORD.
"There you have the one Spirit in the seven-fold plenitude of His power." (Revelation, by Harry A. Ironside, p. 15-16)

However, what is written above is not what is written in the text of Scripture (Proverbs 30:5-6). First of all, there are not even seven "Spirits" mentioned in Isaiah 11:2 as Ironside expounds. The passage begins with "The Spirit of the Lord." Then, describing this Spirit He declares, "the Spirit of wisdom and understanding," and the remaining. It does not say, as Ironside explains, "the Spirit of wisdom and the Spirit of understanding." Ironside modifies the entire passage putting in "Spirits" where there are none. The latter 6 describe the first. Therefore, even if we were to follow his scheme there would only be six (unless the Septuagint was followed, which adds an extra "Spirit" ["the spirit of the fear of God"] and adds an extra "and godliness"). But, in reality, the passage only has 3 (or 4 when including the LXX additions, which are part of what is known as the deuterocanonicals for the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox churches, and the Apocrypha for Protestants).

The Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon Him,

1. the Spirit of wisdom and understanding
2. the Spirit of counsel and might
3. the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord

 Seven Angels
Revelations 1:4-5 suggests the exalted state of the seven Spirits which are before God's Throne. In the two verses, John sends greeting of grace from God, from the seven who are before God's throne, and from Jesus Christ in Heaven to the seven churches in Asia.

In other places of the Bible, there are also references to a group of seven spiritual beings, always said to be standing in the Presence of God in Heaven. Revelations 8:2 states that there are seven angels who stand before God.

Also, Revelations 15 states that there are seven angels who come out from the Temple in Heaven to pour out God's wrath upon the world.

In Luke 1:19, Gabriel stated to the priest Zachariah that he is an angel who stands in the Presence of God; this identifies Gabriel as one of the seven Spirits of God.

The phrase "seven Spirits of God", if understood as seven angels, would convey the meaning "seven spiritual beings (spirits) of (closest to, belonging to) God's Presence". The same meaning is conveyed in the name "Israel" which means "Prince of God", meaning a prince belonging to God's court (a prince of God), not a prince over God.

 Seven Anointed Men
Since there is only one Holy Spirit, the "seven spirits of God" (Rev 5:6) have been understood by some to mean the Holy Spirit anointing on seven men who have been used by God to direct the Church throughout its history. [1] This understanding is supported by the reference to the "seven spirits" as "seven lamps" (Rev 4:5 - and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.). The ministry of John the Baptist was also likened to a lamp (John 5:35 NKJV - John was a lamp that burned and gave light, and you chose for a time to enjoy his light.)

William Branham identified these seven men as the messengers ("angels") to the seven churches in Revelation chapters 2 and 2. He named them as: Paul, Irenaeus, Martin of Tours, Columba, Martin Luther, John Wesley, and the final messenger as "Elijah". Those who follow Branham's teachings, believe that in fact he was the seventh messenger

 Other Interpretations
The seven Spirits might also correspond to the seven Virtues (Dunamis), or the seven Potencies of God: Courage, Fortitude, Temperance, Justice, Hope, Faith, Charity. In the New Testament, the term "Dunamis" (translated as Virtues) suggests a class of exalted spiritual beings; the same perhaps parallel to the "chief Princes" (Sar rishown) in the Old Testament, of which Michael is stated to be one (Daniel 10:13).


 :ugeek:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on July 16, 2010, 04:12:30 AM
I agree with you that it is an interesting coincidence that they would announce the revealing of the ark of covanent in Ethiopia, on the day that Michael supposedly died, and then change their minds. A revealing of the start of the hoax actually!! It has certainly been true with this whole MJ investigation that whatever aspect you look deeper into, it only raises more questions than when you started. :?  :(  :D

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchto ... 1/cherubim (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/184782/1/cherubim) This discusses JW views on Jesus and Satan being the two cheribim that are on the Ark of the Covenant.[attachment=0:1dmire98]ark45[1].jpg[/attachment:1dmire98]

http://housebuiltupontherockjesuschrist ... aphim.aspx (http://housebuiltupontherockjesuschrist.com/CherubimandSeraphim.aspx)  This is a thorough discussion on why Jesus is Michael the Archangel (not JW), which I recommend reading!

Here are the verses that talk about Satan being the cheribim that covers ( as in covers the ark). Ezekiel 28:14, 16:

"Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."

"By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire."

There are so many claims on where the ark is, if you've checked out sites. I lean towards Ethiopia because it is main African country with Hebrew Israelites in it, and in the book of Maccabees it says Jeremiah hid the ark in a cave after the temple was destroyed. Anyways, if Satan fell from his high position, then perhaps it has to do with why the ark lost its importance after the destruction of Solomon's temple. The temple and the ark never regained their prominence as to being the place where God resided. I believe that's because it was only a picture to start with. The whole Bible is one big story, and complex series of pictures, illustration, parables for all mankind, in layers upon layers of truths and mysteries. You mentioned already, that in the New Testament the ark is only written of as residing in heaven. The Bible says God created all things, and says God created evil. I believe God created Satan for the role of adversary, villian if you will. After the violent end of the story, all will be restored, at the consumation of all things.

On another note, you mentioned the Lion of Judah, and Judah is one of the 12 tribes of Israel, but the specific brother with the lineage to Jesus. Here's Michael with the 777 shirt, the crown and lion (of Judah?).[attachment=1:1dmire98]29cuqvq[1].jpg[/attachment:1dmire98]
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 16, 2010, 08:16:30 AM
@Im_convincedmjalive  

I know we should dig deeper by ourselves but I would like to dig deeper in what TS has found also  :D . I hope he'll share his findings so that we can study them too like I study what you post here  ;)

I totally agree with this: if people followed the 10 commandements this world would be a much much better place.

I love your theory about deception. It makes sense because on the 26th everybody was talking about Michael's "death" and the "false" Ark would not have got the attention required.
 
God bless you.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 16, 2010, 08:42:12 AM
You know like the Quran the Bible may be coded mathematically... we should maybe search in this direction...
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on July 16, 2010, 12:08:10 PM
The Bible has been examined thoroughly by many Jewish scolars and others, for its number codes, and thus hidden messages by the positioning of the Hebrew letters in the original text, which with the advent of the computer and special software for codes, has made hunting for messages relatively easy--and almost any message can be found.  Here is one site trying to debunk the theory.  http://www.nmsr.org/biblecod.htm (http://www.nmsr.org/biblecod.htm) I've read the book "Signature of God" by Grant Jeffrey, years ago and was amazed, but there are those who see another side. http://www.ingermanson.com/codes/books/jeffrey.php (http://www.ingermanson.com/codes/books/jeffrey.php)
On the other hand, if scientists and mathematicians were to look at many of the numerology threads we have going here, they might annalyze them to shreds as well. I always think truth is somewhere in the middle. We need the checks and balances that other critiques can bring to our excited minds. I think that on this site, we have open discussion, but with thankfully for the most part polite critisism, that helps to balance us.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 17, 2010, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
I agree with you that it is an interesting coincidence that they would announce the revealing of the ark of covanent in Ethiopia, on the day that Michael supposedly died, and then change their minds. A revealing of the start of the hoax actually!! It has certainly been true with this whole MJ investigation that whatever aspect you look deeper into, it only raises more questions than when you started. :?  :(  :D

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchto ... 1/cherubim (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/184782/1/cherubim) This discusses JW views on Jesus and Satan being the two cheribim that are on the Ark of the Covenant.[attachment=0:1xn5o8xo]ark45[1].jpg[/attachment:1xn5o8xo]

http://housebuiltupontherockjesuschrist ... aphim.aspx (http://housebuiltupontherockjesuschrist.com/CherubimandSeraphim.aspx)  This is a thorough discussion on why Jesus is Michael the Archangel (not JW), which I recommend reading!

Here are the verses that talk about Satan being the cheribim that covers ( as in covers the ark). Ezekiel 28:14, 16:

"Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire."

"By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire."

There are so many claims on where the ark is, if you've checked out sites. I lean towards Ethiopia because it is main African country with Hebrew Israelites in it, and in the book of Maccabees it says Jeremiah hid the ark in a cave after the temple was destroyed. Anyways, if Satan fell from his high position, then perhaps it has to do with why the ark lost its importance after the destruction of Solomon's temple. The temple and the ark never regained their prominence as to being the place where God resided. I believe that's because it was only a picture to start with. The whole Bible is one big story, and complex series of pictures, illustration, parables for all mankind, in layers upon layers of truths and mysteries. You mentioned already, that in the New Testament the ark is only written of as residing in heaven. The Bible says God created all things, and says God created evil. I believe God created Satan for the role of adversary, villian if you will. After the violent end of the story, all will be restored, at the consumation of all things.

On another note, you mentioned the Lion of Judah, and Judah is one of the 12 tribes of Israel, but the specific brother with the lineage to Jesus. Here's Michael with the 777 shirt, the crown and lion (of Judah?).[attachment=1:1xn5o8xo]29cuqvq[1].jpg[/attachment:1xn5o8xo]

@MJonmind

Thank you for this info. I would not have known where to look. I will say I agree with the theory that the "two cherubim" are Archangel Michael and Satan/Lucifer (when he/it was in Angelic form before falling from heaven to Earth) Satan was booted out, lol

I am going to go one step further here with my theory and adding onto what you stated about Satan being designed to play the role of villian/adversary, I absolutely agree and I will say why I do believe that, because I am going to reveal a "Vision" I had back in 1998...

I was living in Waikiki, Hawaii at the time and I began to watch programs on television at that time that dealt with Revelations and End Times. I don't get "Visions" often. But, when I do they are very reveiling and make very powerful statements.

My conscious mind said "WTF is this Revelations crap all about?" I got scared, so my mind shut down and shut it out. My subconscious and my "Visions" are triggered by subliminal messages I see in things, so a "Vision" was triggered and I saw:

That this is a GRAND design planned by God, everyone and everything belong to him, including Satan. My "Vision" came to me in a non-threatening way and made it a silly game so that  I could easily accept and see that this is supposed to happen like this and everything is gonna be aight!

I saw God and Satan playing a game of chess: God is in control of his chess pieces ( his chosen people) and Satan is in control of his chess pieces ( his children of the world ) this is the Ultimate chess game designed by GOD and in the end he will win, no matter what happens in between.

The fact is God needs a worthy opponent to also keep him on his toes but in the end he controls the game no matter what. He owns us and he owns Satan.

Also I want to say that when I made this topic, I already knew "who" would respond.

And both of you did.

Peace
 :ugeek:


P.S. Since the "hoax" has dealt with numerology and there has been ample proof to me that indeed it plays a HUGE role in our lifes, out of curiousity I did a reading on my own name today and my birthdate...I am not worried about my name and identity being anonymous, I am also posting this info because I found it absolutely fasinating the words surrounding my name, and birthdate, you might say I was blown away,  :shock: lol

also I posted this to some what give more validity to my "Visions" and the belief I hold in them and being lead by the "holy spirit"
Numerology for Robin Van Noy for 7/17/2010

In Your Public Life...
Words that embody things that may be a part of you are "Circus, Copper, Crown, Hermit, Hunger, Ice, Invader, Nation, Number, Obelisk, Pulse, Sacrifice, Sound, Stone".

Words that embody people or things in your periphery are "Africa, Agility, Ambition, Aurora, Author, Authority, Barbarism, Beast, Beauty, Bitter, Boat, Change, Chariot, Cocktail, Compulsion, Conversation, Craving, Cross, Dazzle, Death, Defiance, Energy, Fire, Forest, Gold, Intimidation, Iridium, Jackal, Judge, Jury, Luck, Melody, Messiah, Mink, Monkey, Occult, Ocean, Omen, Opium, Palace, Pinnacle, Prayer, Radio, Redemption, Rich, Rock, Seer, Sentiment, Shepherd, Shout, Spring, Sterility, Tantra, Tarot, Tide, Time, Vassal, Violet, Vixen, Vulture, Warlock, Weapon, Wisdom".


In Your Spiritual Life...
Words that embody things that may be a part of you are "Arrow, Commerce, Dance, Doctor, Genius, Hand, Humor, Job, Madness, Red, Skull, Spiral, Tactics, Thorn, Voyage".
Words that embody people or things in your periphery are "Ancestor, Blues, Butcher, Council, Dragon, Engineer, Entertainment, Finger, Glory, Grotto, Halloween, Island, Joker, Martyr, Mouth, Mustang, Neptune, Player, Power, Rook, Scream, Shackle, Slave, Stars, Theater, Tiger, Unholy, Virtue".

Explanation
      The reading above combines your public name, nickname, birth name, and birthdate with today's date in order to determine which words equate to your life today. The different ways in which words can be associated with you are:
Identity: These are words whose numeric value is an exact match. For example, the numeric value of "Adolf Hitler" is 110, which is the same numeric value as "Osama Bin Laden" (as bad luck would have it, Adolf and Osama share the same Tarot card and birth path as well). Identities are common in some fundamental way, although the commonality may be very obscure. You might think of words as the siblings of their identities.

Product: These are words whose numeric value is a superset of another. For example, the numeric value of "Fulfillment" is 130, which is a superset of the numeric value of "Peace", which is 30. Products are things that you can create from their components.

Component: These are words whose numeric value is a subset of another. For example, the numeric value of "Sex" is 48, which is a subset of the numeric value of "Sharon Stone", which is 148. Components are things that make up a product.

Mirror: These are words whose numeric value is a digit by digit reflection. For example, the numeric value of "Rose" is 57, whereas the numeric value of "Thorn" is 75. Mirrors are things that belong together, either as compliments or as opposites. Like a thorn to a rose, mirrors are often unrelated in what they offer, but inextricably connected nonetheless. Words are sometimes thought of as the allies or enemies of their mirrors.

Cause: These are words whose value matches the secondary numeric value of another. For example, the date "9-11-2001" has a numeric value of 14 (9+1+1+2+0+0+1=14), the word "Warning" has a numeric value of 86, and the word "Martyr" has a numeric value of 95. If you add up the digits of "Warning" (8+6=14) and "Martyr" (9+5=14), the results equal the value of "9-11-2001". Causes are things that precede their effects.

Effect: These are words whose secondary numeric value matches the value of another. For example, the numeric value of "Winter" is 89, and the numeric value of "Ice" is 17. If you add up the digits of "Winter" (8+9=17), the result equals the value of "Ice" (17). Effects are things that follow their cause.

Distant: These are words whose secondary numeric values are an exact match. For example, the numeric value of "Rome" is 51, "War" is 42, and "Conquest" is 114. If you add up the digits (5+1=6, 4+2=6, 1+1+4=6), each one equals 6. Distants are things that are loosely related, like cousins within a family.

Italics: The words in your reading that appear in italics are more strongly associated with you than the other words in the same category. For example, if your reading included the line "Distant: trance, struggle, victory", then all three of these words would be loosely related to you, but the word struggle would be the most significant among them.
 
 :ugeek:


Maybe this is why The word Monkey surrounds my name? lol
I wrote this.
a new discovery.. i like it, xoxo :)Monday, June 7, 2010 2:52 AM
From: "Robin :) xoxo" <mistresscherrymoon@yahoo.com>Add sender to ContactsTo: DMovieguy237


[youtube:1xn5o8xo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp6C51sYp0A[/youtube:1xn5o8xo]
 
 
I just discovered something I had NO idea about. This is awesome.


This was a email to Dmovie27 when I was working with him on theories.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 18, 2010, 11:03:54 AM
@ Im_convincedmjalive
Indeed God owns everything and will win in the end no matter what happens in between. I love the chess game vision. Satan has a limited power here on earth (God protects true believers) and for a limited period of time and only under God's will. God is all Powerful.

The numerology description is very interesting and the numeric values of words too. How did you made the reading ? I mean is it on the internet ?
Just another question. How did you know who was going to answer your topic ?  :shock:  

@MJonmind
Regarding the Bible code, just wanted to say that I don't need it to believe in God and His Books. I just am skeptic on people who try by every means to discredit God's religion. In general those who dismiss the fact that codes can be found in the Scriptures are non-believers. I am still digging deeper into it to found out more. As you say there are two sides in the story but I've studied enough the Quran code to know that it's a reality so why not for the Bible.  

Regarding the Ark I thought about something and the announcement made by the church of Ethiopia. Michael announced his "This Is It" concerts in London. Can London be a key ? Just throwing ideas out there.

God bless you.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 18, 2010, 04:18:45 PM
[youtube:2p5anbog]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW1fXL3s7bk[/youtube:2p5anbog]
1 THEN I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven, robed in a cloud, with a [halo like a] rainbow over his head; his face was like the sun, and his feet (legs) were like columns of fire.

Based on the first description and then watching this video, hmm makes ya think? That is Mike under the rainbow holding it up?
 :geek:
The Seventh Angel...
Opening the seven seals

Revelation 10 (Amplified Bible)

Revelation 10
 1 THEN I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven, robed in a cloud, with a [halo like a] rainbow over his head; his face was like the sun, and his feet (legs) were like columns of fire.
   
2 He had a little book (scroll) open in his hand. He set his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land,

    3 And he shouted with a loud voice like the roaring of a lion; and when he had shouted, the seven thunders gave voice and uttered their message in distinct words.

    4 And when the seven thunders had spoken (sounded), I was going to write [it down], but I heard a voice from heaven saying, Seal up what the seven thunders have said! Do not write it down!

    5 Then the [mighty] angel whom I had seen stationed on sea and land raised his right hand to heaven (the sky),

    6 And swore in the name of (by) Him Who lives forever and ever, Who created the heavens (sky) and all they contain, and the earth and all that it contains, and the sea and all that it contains. [He swore] that no more time should intervene and there should be no more waiting or delay,

    7 But that when the days come when the trumpet call of the seventh angel is about to be sounded, then God's mystery (His secret design, His hidden purpose), as He had announced the glad tidings to His servants the prophets, should be fulfilled (accomplished, completed).

    8 Then the voice that I heard from heaven spoke again to me, saying, Go and take the little book (scroll) which is open on the hand of the angel who is standing on the sea and on the land.

    9 So I went up to the angel and asked him to give me the little book. And he said to me, Take it and eat it. It will embitter your stomach, though in your mouth it will be as sweet as honey.

    10 So I took the little book from the angel's hand and ate and swallowed it; it was as sweet as honey in my mouth, but once I had swallowed it, my stomach was embittered.

    11 Then they said to me, You are to make a fresh prophecy concerning many peoples and races and nations and languages and kings.


Connecting DOTS.
Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 18, 2010, 04:44:18 PM
Connecting DOTS
 :ugeek:

2 Peter 3 (Amplified Bible)

2 Peter 3
 1 BELOVED, I am now writing you this second letter. In [both of] them I have stirred up your unsullied (sincere) mind by way of remembrance,
   
2 That you should recall the predictions of the holy (consecrated, dedicated) prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior [given] through your apostles (His special messengers).

    3 To begin with, you must know and understand this, that scoffers (mockers) will come in the last days with scoffing, [people who] walk after their own fleshly desires

    4 And say, Where is the promise of His coming? For since the forefathers fell asleep, all things have continued exactly as they did from the beginning of creation.

    5 For they willfully overlook and forget this [fact], that the heavens [came into] existence long ago by the word of God, and the earth also which was formed out of water and by means of water,

    6 Through which the world that then [existed] was deluged with water and perished.

    7 But by the same word the present heavens and earth have been stored up (reserved) for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly people.

    8 Nevertheless, do not let this one fact escape you, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.

    9 The Lord does not delay and is not tardy or slow about what He promises, according to some people's conception of slowness, but He is long-suffering (extraordinarily patient) toward you, not desiring that any should perish, but that all should turn to repentance.

    10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will vanish (pass away) with a thunderous crash, and the [material] elements [of the universe] will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.

    11 Since all these things are thus in the process of being dissolved, what kind of person ought [each of] you to be [in the meanwhile] in consecrated and holy behavior and devout and godly qualities,

    12 While you wait and earnestly long for (expect and hasten) the coming of the day of God by reason of which the flaming heavens will be dissolved, and the [material] elements [of the universe] will flare and melt with fire?

    13 But we look for new heavens and a new earth according to His promise, in which righteousness (uprightness, freedom from sin, and right standing with God) is to abide.

    14 So, beloved, since you are expecting these things, be eager to be found by Him [at His coming] without spot or blemish and at peace [in serene confidence, free from fears and agitating passions and moral conflicts].

    15 And consider that the long-suffering of our Lord [His slowness in avenging wrongs and judging the world] is salvation (that which is conducive to the soul's safety), even as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the spiritual insight given him,

    16 Speaking of this as he does in all of his letters. There are some things in those [epistles of Paul] that are difficult to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist and misconstrue to their own utter destruction, just as [they distort and misinterpret] the rest of the Scriptures.

    17 Let me warn you therefore, beloved, that knowing these things beforehand, you should be on your guard, lest you be carried away by the error of lawless and wicked [persons and] fall from your own [present] firm condition [your own steadfastness of mind].

    18 But grow in grace (undeserved favor, spiritual strength) and [recognition and knowledge and understanding of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (the Messiah). To Him [be] glory (honor, majesty, and splendor) both now and to the day of eternity. Amen (so be it)!

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on July 18, 2010, 05:21:49 PM
Michael is taking us by the hand through a wild and wacky land and story. What Michael is doing in his masterful hoax in all its intricasies, IMO in a tiny mini-way parallels what God is doing in the Universe and more specifically on planet earth and throughout history. Michael is the man behind the curtain, the Wizard of Oz as the characters in his story go along the yellow brick road. God is the "Old Man" (meant respectfully) behind the curtain of mystery of time as all His creatures, celestial or earthly carry out their stories and lives. They are overcoming hurtles and challenges on the yellow brick road of time with God fully in control and orchestrating everything including twists and turns, and all deceptions and evil. We are only beginning to understand the special calling God had on Michael's life from birth, and which will continue to unfold in the days, months, years ahead.  I believe God, like Michael has a crazy sense of humor. Here is Michael singing "If'n I was God."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLlacwfW50 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLlacwfW50)

Here's the lyrics:

If'n I was God
Well, just for spite
I wouldn’t set the sun at night
’Til everyone was treated right
By everyone else they see

If’n I was God
I’d fix it so without explaining
Folks would know
They’d know what’s going on inside
Of everyone else like me

Nobody hurt nobody else
Oh, no, I wouldn’t let it be
Nobody have a need to pray
Except for thanking me

If n I was God
I’d make us wise
So everyone could realize
That everywhere beneath the sun
Everyone needs everyone

And, God, that ain’t half
What I would do
If ’n I were you

Oh, yeah
If ’n I was God
I’d make us wise
Everybody touch everybody’s hand
Oh, yeah
Reach out and touch
Somebody’s hand
You got to love everybody, yeah
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 18, 2010, 05:27:07 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
@ Im_convincedmjalive
Indeed God owns everything and will win in the end no matter what happens in between. I love the chess game vision. Satan has a limited power here on earth (God protects true believers) and for a limited period of time and only under God's will. God is all Powerful.

The numerology description is very interesting and the numeric values of words too. How did you made the reading ? I mean is it on the internet ?
Just another question. How did you know who was going to answer your topic ?  :shock:  

@MJonmind
Regarding the Bible code, just wanted to say that I don't need it to believe in God and His Books. I just am skeptic on people who try by every means to discredit God's religion. In general those who dismiss the fact that codes can be found in the Scriptures are non-believers. I am still digging deeper into it to found out more. As you say there are two sides in the story but I've studied enough the Quran code to know that it's a reality so why not for the Bible.  

Regarding the Ark I thought about something and the announcement made by the church of Ethiopia. Michael announced his "This Is It" concerts in London. Can London be a key ? Just throwing ideas out there.

God bless you.

@Sarahli,

There is the link to where I did the reading.
http://www.facade.com/numerology/ (http://www.facade.com/numerology/)

Roflmaoooo@The words for todays reading. There are words in this list and yesterdays that I would know how much they really apply to my current  lifestyle.. lol

Numerology for Robin Van Noy for 7/18/2010
In Your Public Life...
Words that embody things that may be a part of you are "Cage, Champagne, Gazelle, Language, Passage".

Words that embody people or things in your periphery are "Allure, Artist, Atlantis, Constellation, Decision, Dolphin, Freemason, Ghost, Gladiator, Heroin, Husband, Jungle, Justice, Knight, Knowledge, Leather, Playboy, Priest, Retreat, Romance, Rough, Society, Spite, Tornado, Travel, Truth, Tundra, Watcher, Wealth, Whore, Worm".


In Your Spiritual Life...
Words that embody the people or things that you interact with are "Amulet, Bullet, Cathedral, Despair, Failure, Fashion, Lover, Lust, Money, Pilot, Reason, River, Rocket, School, Slut, Sweet, World".

Words that embody things that may be a part of you are "Anarchy, Courage, Dance, Duty, Fascism, Fury, Galaxy, Hand, Honor, Job, Lizard, Red, Robot, Secret, Shadow, Vatican, Vogue".

Words that embody people or things in your periphery are "Business, Comfort, Diplomat, Jealousy, Journey, Marathon, Obsession, Painting, Pestilence, Porcupine, Sister, Smooth, Spotlight, Stability, Thunder, Torture, University".


Explanation
      The reading above combines your public name, nickname, birth name, and birthdate with today's date in order to determine which words equate to your life today. The different ways in which words can be associated with you are:
Identity: These are words whose numeric value is an exact match. For example, the numeric value of "Adolf Hitler" is 110, which is the same numeric value as "Osama Bin Laden" (as bad luck would have it, Adolf and Osama share the same Tarot card and birth path as well). Identities are common in some fundamental way, although the commonality may be very obscure. You might think of words as the siblings of their identities.

Product: These are words whose numeric value is a superset of another. For example, the numeric value of "Fulfillment" is 130, which is a superset of the numeric value of "Peace", which is 30. Products are things that you can create from their components.

Component: These are words whose numeric value is a subset of another. For example, the numeric value of "Sex" is 48, which is a subset of the numeric value of "Sharon Stone", which is 148. Components are things that make up a product.

Mirror: These are words whose numeric value is a digit by digit reflection. For example, the numeric value of "Rose" is 57, whereas the numeric value of "Thorn" is 75. Mirrors are things that belong together, either as compliments or as opposites. Like a thorn to a rose, mirrors are often unrelated in what they offer, but inextricably connected nonetheless. Words are sometimes thought of as the allies or enemies of their mirrors.

Cause: These are words whose value matches the secondary numeric value of another. For example, the date "9-11-2001" has a numeric value of 14 (9+1+1+2+0+0+1=14), the word "Warning" has a numeric value of 86, and the word "Martyr" has a numeric value of 95. If you add up the digits of "Warning" (8+6=14) and "Martyr" (9+5=14), the results equal the value of "9-11-2001". Causes are things that precede their effects.

Effect: These are words whose secondary numeric value matches the value of another. For example, the numeric value of "Winter" is 89, and the numeric value of "Ice" is 17. If you add up the digits of "Winter" (8+9=17), the result equals the value of "Ice" (17). Effects are things that follow their cause.

Distant: These are words whose secondary numeric values are an exact match. For example, the numeric value of "Rome" is 51, "War" is 42, and "Conquest" is 114. If you add up the digits (5+1=6, 4+2=6, 1+1+4=6), each one equals 6. Distants are things that are loosely related, like cousins within a family.

Italics: The words in your reading that appear in italics are more strongly associated with you than the other words in the same category. For example, if your reading included the line "Distant: trance, struggle, victory", then all three of these words would be loosely related to you, but the word struggle would be the most significant among them.


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As for the "knowing" who and "how":

1 Corinthians 12 (Amplified Bible)
1 Corinthians 12

1 NOW ABOUT the spiritual gifts (the special endowments of supernatural energy), brethren, I do not want you to be misinformed.
2 You know that when you were heathen, you were led off after idols that could not speak [habitually] as impulse directed and whenever the occasion might arise.

3 Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking under the power and influence of the [Holy] Spirit of God can [ever] say, Jesus be cursed! And no one can [really] say, Jesus is [my] Lord, except by and under the power and influence of the Holy Spirit.

4 Now there are distinctive varieties and distributions of endowments (gifts, extraordinary powers distinguishing certain Christians, due to the power of divine grace operating in their souls by the Holy Spirit) and they vary, but the [Holy] Spirit remains the same.

5 And there are distinctive varieties of service and ministration, but it is the same Lord [Who is served].

6 And there are distinctive varieties of operation [of working to accomplish things], but it is the same God Who inspires and energizes them all in all.

7 But to each one is given the manifestation of the [Holy] Spirit [the evidence, the spiritual illumination of the Spirit] for good and profit.

8 To one is given in and through the [Holy] Spirit [the power to speak] a message of wisdom, and to another [the power to express] a word of knowledge and understanding according to the same [Holy] Spirit;

9 To another [wonder-working] faith by the same [Holy] Spirit, to another the extraordinary powers of healing by the one Spirit;

10 To another the working of miracles, to another prophetic insight (the gift of interpreting the divine will and purpose); to another the ability to discern and distinguish between [the utterances of true] spirits [and false ones], to another various kinds of [unknown] tongues, to another the ability to interpret [such] tongues.

11 All these [gifts, achievements, abilities] are inspired and brought to pass by one and the same [Holy] Spirit, Who apportions to each person individually [exactly] as He chooses.

12 For just as the body is a unity and yet has many parts, and all the parts, though many, form [only] one body, so it is with Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One).

13 For by [means of the personal agency of] one [Holy] Spirit we were all, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free, baptized [and by baptism united together] into one body, and all made to drink of one [Holy] Spirit.

14 For the body does not consist of one limb or organ but of many.

15 If the foot should say, Because I am not the hand, I do not belong to the body, would it be therefore not [a part] of the body?

16 If the ear should say, Because I am not the eye, I do not belong to the body, would it be therefore not [a part] of the body?

17 If the whole body were an eye, where [would be the sense of] hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where [would be the sense of] smell?

18 But as it is, God has placed and arranged the limbs and organs in the body, each [particular one] of them, just as He wished and saw fit and with the best adaptation.

19 But if [the whole] were all a single organ, where would the body be?

20 And now there are [certainly] many limbs and organs, but a single body.

21 And the eye is not able to say to the hand, I have no need of you, nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

22 But instead, there is [absolute] necessity for the parts of the body that are considered the more weak.

23 And those [parts] of the body which we consider rather ignoble are [the very parts] which we invest with additional honor, and our unseemly parts and those unsuitable for exposure are treated with seemliness (modesty and decorum),

24 Which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so adjusted (mingled, harmonized, and subtly proportioned the parts of) the whole body, giving the greater honor and richer endowment to the inferior parts which lack [apparent importance],

25 So that there should be no division or discord or lack of adaptation [of the parts of the body to each other], but the members all alike should have a mutual interest in and care for one another.

26 And if one member suffers, all the parts [share] the suffering; if one member is honored, all the members [share in] the enjoyment of it.

27 Now you [collectively] are Christ's body and [individually] you are members of it, each part severally and distinct [each with his own place and function].

28 So God has appointed some in the church [for His own use]: first apostles (special messengers); second prophets (inspired preachers and expounders); third teachers; then wonder-workers; then those with ability to heal the sick; helpers; administrators; [speakers in] different (unknown) tongues.

29 Are all apostles (special messengers)? Are all prophets (inspired interpreters of the will and purposes of God)? Are all teachers? Do all have the power of performing miracles?

30 Do all possess extraordinary powers of healing? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret?

31 But earnestly desire and zealously cultivate the greatest and best gifts and graces (the higher gifts and the choicest graces). And yet I will show you a still more excellent way [one that is better by far and the highest of them all--love].
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And Thank you to both of you for helping in bringing forth truth, one step at a time.

I would say if you feel London is important, investigate it.

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 18, 2010, 05:38:14 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Michael is taking us by the hand through a wild and wacky land and story. What Michael is doing in his masterful hoax in all its intricasies, IMO in a tiny mini-way parallels what God is doing in the Universe and more specifically on planet earth and throughout history. Michael is the man behind the curtain, the Wizard of Oz as the characters in his story go along the yellow brick road. God is the "Old Man" (meant respectfully) behind the curtain of mystery of time as all His creatures, celestial or earthly carry out their stories and lives. They are overcoming hurtles and challenges on the yellow brick road of time with God fully in control and orchestrating everything including twists and turns, and all deceptions and evil. We are only beginning to understand the special calling God had on Michael's life from birth, and which will continue to unfold in the days, months, years ahead.  I believe God, like Michael has a crazy sense of humor. Here is Michael singing "If'n I was God."
[youtube:q89sdbys]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLlacwfW50[/youtube:q89sdbys]

Here's the lyrics:

If'n I was God
Well, just for spite
I wouldn’t set the sun at night
’Til everyone was treated right
By everyone else they see

If’n I was God
I’d fix it so without explaining
Folks would know
They’d know what’s going on inside
Of everyone else like me

Nobody hurt nobody else
Oh, no, I wouldn’t let it be
Nobody have a need to pray
Except for thanking me

If n I was God
I’d make us wise
So everyone could realize
That everywhere beneath the sun
Everyone needs everyone

And, God, that ain’t half
What I would do
If ’n I were you

Oh, yeah
If ’n I was God
I’d make us wise
Everybody touch everybody’s hand
Oh, yeah
Reach out and touch
Somebody’s hand
You got to love everybody, yeah

"I believe God, like Michael has a crazy sense of humor. Here is Michael singing "If'n I was God."

I absolutely agree 100% with this and the rest of your statement. Yesterday when I wrote my "vision" I didn't want to offend people so I left out the part where I saw God chuckling and having a good laugh playing chess with the devil, knowing in his mind he was gonna win but allowed satan to think he had the upper hand (only for a moment) like a tease.

Peace
 :ugeek:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 18, 2010, 08:10:17 PM
This INFO deals with prophecy, I had NO clue at the time when I wrote this to Dmovie27 what would come of it, or how I knew it. My tweets are from my cherrymoon808 twitter account dated as such. I also have never watched V at all... (all the way through) I have only seen bits and pieces on the youtube.
 
I didn't know at the time when I tweeted the Monte Cristo scenes that it is referenced in V.

In a message dated 5/22/2010 11:56:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8zVglXFO7A&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8zVglXFO7A&NR=1) 4:52 PM Mar 21st via web

   the old man asks dude: have you named the bricks yet? lol I suppose that's when you know you've really lost it, lol. this shall pass 3:49 PM Mar 21st via web

   lol, old man says: forgive my intrusion, I have been digging for 5 years. He lol @ the irony of ending up in another cell. 3:47 PM Mar 21st via web    

this is what the Ghost of Jealousy looks like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEnmzxH9NhM&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEnmzxH9NhM&NR=1) currently watching this movie 3:23 PM Mar 21st via web

I absolutely love love love this movie, count of monte cristo! I saw it in 2001 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzULuO1cBSc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzULuO1cBSc) 2:48 PM Mar 21st via web


In a message dated 5/22/2010 10:16:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasper)
I will get into the ARK and 777,  Archangel Michael.. opening the seals...concept to if ya want?
Also Ruby is the color of a stone in the breast plate also so is http://www.dihcro.com/sardius.html (http://www.dihcro.com/sardius.html)
 
Lion..
Leo
http://www.catholic-saints.info/catholi ... symbol.htm (http://www.catholic-saints.info/catholic-symbols/lion-christian-symbol.htm)
 
Scroll down on this link and the reference to revelations and the opening of the seals..


BTW This is the email that caused him to crash the channel..lol

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Just looked this up, I REALLY got To get MY life together... :?

Revelation 21 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 21
 1 THEN I saw a new sky (heaven) and a new earth, for the former sky and the former earth had passed away (vanished), and there no longer existed any sea.
   
2 And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, all arrayed like a bride beautified and adorned for her husband;

    3 Then I heard a mighty voice from the throne and I perceived its distinct words, saying, See! The abode of God is with men, and He will live (encamp, tent) among them; and they shall be His people, and God shall personally be with them and be their God.

    4 God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and death shall be no more, neither shall there be anguish (sorrow and mourning) nor grief nor pain any more, for the old conditions and the former order of things have passed away.

    5 And He Who is seated on the throne said, See! I make all things new. Also He said, Record this, for these sayings are faithful (accurate, incorruptible, and trustworthy) and true (genuine).

    6 And He [further] said to me, It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I [Myself] will give water without price from the fountain (springs) of the water of Life.

    7 He who is victorious shall inherit all these things, and I will be God to him and he shall be My son.

    8 But as for the cowards and the ignoble and the contemptible and the cravenly lacking in courage and the cowardly submissive, and as for the unbelieving and faithless, and as for the depraved and defiled with abominations, and as for murderers and the lewd and adulterous and the practicers of magic arts and the idolaters (those who give supreme devotion to anyone or anything other than God) and all liars (those who knowingly convey untruth by word or deed)--[all of these shall have] their part in the lake that blazes with fire and brimstone. This is the second death.

    9 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls filled with the seven final plagues (afflictions, calamities) came and spoke to me. He said, Come with me! I will show you the bride, the Lamb's wife.

    10 Then in the Spirit He conveyed me away to a vast and lofty mountain and exhibited to me the holy (hallowed, consecrated) city of Jerusalem descending out of heaven from God,

    11 Clothed in God's glory [in all its splendor and radiance]. The luster of it resembled a rare and most precious jewel, like jasper, shining clear as crystal.

    12 It had a massive and high wall with twelve [large] gates, and at the gates [there were stationed] twelve angels, and [on the gates] the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were written:

    13 On the east side three gates, on the north side three gates, on the south side three gates, and on the west side three gates.

    14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundation [stones], and on them the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

    15 And he who spoke to me had a golden measuring reed (rod) to measure the city and its gates and its wall.

    16 The city lies in a square, its length being the same as its width. And he measured the city with his reed--12,000 stadia (about 1,500 miles); its length and width and height are the same.

    17 He measured its wall also--144 cubits (about 72 yards) by a man's measure [of a cubit from his elbow to his third fingertip], which is [the measure] of the angel.

    18 The wall was built of jasper, while the city [itself was of] pure gold, clear and transparent like glass.

    19 The foundation [stones] of the wall of the city were ornamented with all of the precious stones. The first foundation [stone] was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony (or white agate), the fourth emerald,

    20 The fifth onyx, the sixth sardius, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst.

    21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, each separate gate being built of one solid pearl. And the main street (the broadway) of the city was of gold as pure and translucent as glass.

    22 I saw no temple in the city, for the Lord God Omnipotent [Himself] and the Lamb [Himself] are its temple.

    23 And the city has no need of the sun nor of the moon to give light to it, for the splendor and radiance (glory) of God illuminate it, and the Lamb is its lamp.

    24 The nations shall walk by its light and the rulers and leaders of the earth shall bring into it their glory.

    25 And its gates shall never be closed by day, and there shall be no night there.

    26 They shall bring the glory (the splendor and majesty) and the honor of the nations into it.

    27 But nothing that defiles or profanes or is unwashed shall ever enter it, nor anyone who commits abominations (unclean, detestable, morally repugnant things) or practices falsehood, but only those whose names are recorded in the Lamb's Book of Life.





Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Well, better not pressure them about it or they'll put MJ on it too, like they did the other list.

Strange if TS believes Elvis is alive, why he's on it then.

I've always loved John Candy and all his movies. I hope you don't mind. All these people have dreams about Michael and I'm so jealous. But  :lol:  I DID have a dream about John Candy many years ago, and it stuck in my mind. I got it several months after he died.  Okay, I was driving along in my car at night. For some reason I had a closed casket in the back that I was transporting. Then all of a sudden the casket started opening (I was freaked!) Up sits John Candy. Well we ended up having a long chat, driving along.The rest is so fuzzy I can't remember.

Don't feel bad. I don't get Dreams about MJ. I do however get "Visions".

These are NOT "Visions" with specific faces to them. I get the creepy scary "Visions". The magician side of this "hoax". Like opening portal holes with a swirling finger over the ground and releasing the demons (from HELL) to roam the land and disturb believers or non-believers testing them and their Faith.

This is a "Vision" from 2 days ago. It woke me from my sleep.  8-)
Before The Hidden message TMZ article.
Check out that thread and what was wrote and discovered.

Peace
Quote taken from This Thread:
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=12415 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=12415)


And I was referring to This Thread:
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=12374 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=12374)

The words Warlock, Finger and Messiah surrounding my name.. hmm?

Freaky
Peace
 :ugeek:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 19, 2010, 07:28:44 AM
United Kingdom

In 2003, historical author Graham Phillips traced the route of the Ark through research using Biblical texts as being taken to Mount Sinai in the Valley of Edom by the Maccabees, along with other religious treasures. Phillips claims it remained there until the 1180s, when Ralph de Sudeley, the leader of the Templars who apparently found the Maccabean treasure at Jebel al-Madhbah, returned home to his estate at Herdewyke in Warwickshire, UK, taking the treasure with him.

Ireland

During the turn of the 20th century British Israelites carried out some excavations of the Hill of Tara in Ireland looking for the Ark of the Covenant – the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland campaigned successfully to have them stopped before they ruined the hill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the ... ed_Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant#United_Kingdom)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 19, 2010, 01:47:30 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
United Kingdom

In 2003, historical author Graham Phillips traced the route of the Ark through research using Biblical texts as being taken to Mount Sinai in the Valley of Edom by the Maccabees, along with other religious treasures. Phillips claims it remained there until the 1180s, when Ralph de Sudeley, the leader of the Templars who apparently found the Maccabean treasure at Jebel al-Madhbah, returned home to his estate at Herdewyke in Warwickshire, UK, taking the treasure with him.

Ireland

During the turn of the 20th century British Israelites carried out some excavations of the Hill of Tara in Ireland looking for the Ark of the Covenant – the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland campaigned successfully to have them stopped before they ruined the hill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the ... ed_Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant#United_Kingdom)


Right On!
Key word: IMO Think "Templars" Knights :idea:
Follow that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights)

I bet there is a whole big box of Pandora's INFO on this ARK we aren't even half way there of knowing.

Thanks for this info.

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 20, 2010, 06:51:07 AM
Knights Templar

"Many of the Templar legends are connected with the Order's early occupation of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and speculation about what relics the Templars may have found there, such as the Holy Grail or the Ark of the Covenant."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templars#L ... and_relics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templars#Legends_and_relics)

There is a list on wiki with the countries associated with the Knights Templar and they have a lot of Temples in the UK : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pl ... ts_Templar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_associated_with_the_Knights_Templar)

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I made a reading with the site you gave me and this part was interesting:

Words that embody people or things in your periphery are "Adversary, Affair, Alien, Ally, America, Animal, Anticipation, Apocalypse, Audio, Cabaret, Camera, Circle, Coin, Demand, Dream, Duke, Flesh, Globe, Home, I Ching, Invention, Joke, Jubilation, Key, King, Lens, Lion, Lock, Moonlight, Resistance, Snake, Submission, Surrender, Synergy, Tomb, Trumpet, Typhoon, Universe".
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 20, 2010, 09:17:32 AM
Regarding the Ark I remembered an article on TMZ and the picture of a chest with supposed messages from fans to Michael. I was keeping thinking about it and I realized that the chest could represent the Ark and the messages "divine revelations" kept hidden in a safe place...

In the Quran it is mentionned that Abraham also wrote something, "leaves of Abraham" but these "papers" have never been discovered and I alos read somewhere that "fakes" have even been created. How smart. Maybe that these writings of Abraham, the true and original ones are in the Ark...

[87:18] This is recorded in the earlier teachings.
[87:19] The teachings of Abraham and Moses.

[53:36] Was he not informed of the teachings in the scripture of Moses?
[53:37] And Abraham who fulfilled?
[53:38] No soul bears the sins of another soul.
[53:39] Every human being is responsible for his own works.
[53:40] And everyone's works will be shown.
[53:41] Then they will be paid fully for such works.
[53:42] To your Lord is the final destiny.
[53:43] He is the One who makes you laugh or cry.
[53:44] He is the One who controls death and life.

Along with the 10 commandements God tells us (via the teachings of Abraham ?) that a soul is responsible for her deeds only. Therefore the popular belief that Eve (and Adam as well but most of the time they put the blame on Eve) is responsible is bogus. Also the story of Jesus is wrong. He cannot have been crucified to purify people from their sins. This is obviously unfair and God is all about Justice.

Also it means that we have to think for ourselves because we will be judged as individuals.
God has given a brain to everyone  we must use it to investigate and search for the truth especially in these times where all the information is more easily accessible. And do it for ourselves. If we search for The Truth, God will guide us in the right path.

I digress sorry it was about the Ark. Well maybe that the Ark contains other "Scriptures"...
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 20, 2010, 04:45:15 PM
Lol… I followed My own advice.
Connected DOTS and there is SO much more to THIS than we are aware of.

Key word: IMO Think "Templars" Knights
Follow that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights)

“I bet there is a whole big box of Pandora's INFO on this ARK we aren't even half way there of knowing.”

"A Templar Knight is truly a fearless knight, and secure on every side, for his soul is protected by the armour of faith, just as his body is protected by the armour of steel. He is thus doubly armed, and need fear neither demons nor men." Bernard de Clairvaux, c. 1135, De Laude Novae Militae—In Praise of the New Knighthood

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights)

Around 1119, two veterans of the First Crusade, the French knight Hugues de Payens and his relative Godfrey de Saint-Omer, proposed the creation of a monastic order for the protection of these pilgrims. King Baldwin II of Jerusalem agreed to their request, and gave them space for a headquarters on the Temple Mount, in the captured Al Aqsa Mosque. The Temple Mount had a mystique, because it was above what was believed to be the ruins of the Temple of Solomon. The Crusaders therefore referred to the Al Aqsa Mosque as Solomon's Temple, and it was from this location that the Order took the name of Poor Knights of Christ and the Temple of Solomon, or "Templar" knights. The Order, with about nine knights, had few financial resources and relied on donations to survive. Their emblem was of two knights riding on a single horse, emphasizing the Order's poverty.

Side Note:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon%27s_Temple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon%27s_Temple)

London Connections:

With their military mission and extensive financial resources, the Knights Templar funded a large number of building projects around Europe and the Holy Land. Many of these structures are still standing. Many sites also maintain the name "Temple" because of centuries-old association with the Templars. For example, some of the Templars' lands in London were later rented to lawyers, which led to the names of the Temple Bar gateway and the Temple tube station. Two of the four Inns of Court which may call members to act as barristers are the Inner Temple and Middle Temple.
Distinctive architectural elements of Templar buildings include the use of the image of "two knights on a single horse", representing the Knights' poverty, and round buildings designed to resemble the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

The Knights Templar have become associated with legends concerning secrets and mysteries handed down to the select from ancient times. Rumors circulated even during the time of the Templars themselves. Freemasonic writers added their own speculations in the 19th century, and further fictional embellishments have been added in popular novels such as Ivanhoe, Foucault's Pendulum, and The Da Vinci Code, modern movies such as National Treasure and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, as well as video games such as Broken Sword, and Assassin's Creed.

The Dome of the Rock, one of the structures at the Temple Mount
Many of the Templar legends are connected with the Order's early occupation of the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and speculation about what relics the Templars may have found there, such as the Holy Grail or the Ark of the Covenant. That the Templars were in possession of some relics is certain. Many churches still display holy relics such as the bones of a saint, a scrap of cloth once worn by a holy man, or the skull of a martyr; the Templars did the same. They were documented as having a piece of the True Cross, which the Bishop of Acre carried into battle at the disastrous Horns of Hattin. When the battle was lost, Saladin captured the relic, which was then ransomed back to the Crusaders when the Muslims surrendered the city of Acre in 1191. The Templars were known to possess the head of Saint Euphemia of Chalcedon. The subject of relics also came up during the Inquisition of the Templars, as several trial documents refer to the worship of an idol of some type, referred to in some cases as a cat, a bearded head, or in some cases as Baphomet. This accusation of idol worship levied against the Templars has also led to the modern belief by some that the Templars practiced witchcraft. However, modern scholars generally explain the name Baphomet from the trial documents as simply a French misspelling of the name Mahomet (Muhammad).

The Holy Grail quickly became associated with the Templars, even in the 12th century. The first Grail romance, the Le Conte du Graal, was written around 1180 by Chrétien de Troyes. Perhaps twenty years later Parzival, Wolfram von Eschenbach's version of the tale, refers to knights called "Templeisen" guarding the Grail Kingdom. Another hero of the Grail quest, Sir Galahad (a 13th-century literary invention of monks from St. Bernard's Cistercian Order) was depicted bearing a shield with the cross of Saint George, similar to the Templars' insignia: this version presented the "Holy" Grail as a Christian relic. However, in the extensive documents of the Templar inquisition there was never a single mention of anything like a Grail relic,let alone its possession by the Templars. In reality, most scholars agree that the story of the Grail was just that, a fiction that began circulating in medieval times.

One legendary object that does have some connection with the Templars is the Shroud of Turin. In 1357, the shroud was first publicly displayed by the family of the grandson of Geoffrey de Charney, the Templar who had been burned at the stake with Jacques de Molay in 1314. The shroud's origins are still a matter of controversy, but in 1988, a carbon dating analysis concluded that the shroud was made between 1260 and 1390, a span that includes the last half-century of the Templars' existence. The validity of the dating methodology has subsequently been called into question, and the age of the shroud is still subject of much debate.

Connected to Templar Knights.
Side Note:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Grail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Grail)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin)
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Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 20, 2010, 05:55:30 PM
This is out of order, There is a section of this research that I am having trouble posting. 8-)

Located On:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount)

Judaism regards the Temple Mount as the place where God chose the Divine Presence to rest, it was from here the world expanded into its present form and where God gathered the dust used to create the first man, Adam. The site is the location of Abraham's binding of Isaac, and of two Jewish Temples. According to the Bible the site should function as the center of all national life - government, judicial, economical (during the 2nd Temple period), and, of course, religious center. From that location the word of God will come out to all nations, and that is the site that all prayers are focused at. The first was built by Solomon the son of David in 957 BCE and destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BCE. The second was constructed under the auspices of Zerubbabel in 516 BCE and destroyed by the Roman Empire in 70 CE. Jewish tradition maintains it is here the Third and final Temple will also be built. The location is the holiest site in Judaism and is the place Jews turn towards during prayer. Due to its extreme sanctity, many Jews will not walk on the Mount itself, to avoid unintentionally entering the area where the Holy of Holies stood, since according to Rabbinical law, some aspect of the Divine Presence is still present at the site. It was from the Holy of Holies that the High Priest communicated directly with God. The ark of covenant and the tablets may still be buried in one of the many underground cavities at the site.


Located In:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem)
The oldest part of the city, the City of David, was settled in the 4th millennium BCE, making Jerusalem one of the oldest cities in the world. Jerusalem is the holiest city in Judaism and has been the spiritual center of the Jewish people since c. 1000 BCE, when David the King of Israel first established it as the capital of the united Kingdom of Israel (Psalms 122), and his son Solomon commissioned the building of the First Temple in the city. Jerusalem is also considered a holy city in Christianity and contains a number of significant Christian sites, and, due to the mentioning of 'The Farthest Mosque' in the Qur'an (Sura al-Isra) and the subsequent building of a mosque called 'the Farthest Mosque' on the Temple Mount, Islam regards Jerusalem as its third-holiest city.


This IS just scratching the surface.
Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 20, 2010, 06:04:27 PM
This should be after shroud of Turin.  8-)

Connecting  DOTS to Tweets,  lol
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
Why would I play the Milllenium Dome?
4:59 PM May 6th via web

Key words “DOME” “Millenium”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenium)
A millennium is a period of time equal to one thousand years (from the Latin phrase mille, thousand, and annus, year), often but not necessarily related numerically to a particular dating system.
Like maybe "The second Coming of Christ"…?  :shock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Dome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Dome)
This article is about the Dome's use as a Millennium exhibition. For its post-redevelopment use as an entertainment district, see The O2 (London).
Millennium Dome
The Millennium Dome, often referred to simply as The Dome, is the original name of a large dome-shaped building, originally used to house the Millennium Experience, a major exhibition celebrating the beginning of the third millennium. Located on the Greenwich Peninsula in South East London, England, the exhibition opened to the public on 1 January 2000 and ran until 31 December 2000. The project and exhibition was the subject of considerable political controversy as it failed to attract the number of visitors anticipated, leading to recurring financial problems.
While all of the original exhibition and associated complex has since been demolished, the canopy or shell of the dome still exists, and it is now a key exterior feature of the The O2 The Prime Meridian passes the western edge of the Dome.
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Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 20, 2010, 07:01:15 PM
Going back to Key word "DOME" this should be after Millineum Dome info about London

Templar Knights>>>Dome of The Rock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dome_of_the_Rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dome_of_the_Rock)
The Dome of the Rock is an Islamic shrine and major landmark located on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
 
The Dome of the Rock is an Islamic shrine and major landmark located on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. It was completed in 691-692, making it the oldest existing Islamic building in the world. The site's significance stems from the religious beliefs regarding the rock, known as the Foundation Stone, at its heart.

The first headquarters of the Knights Templar, Al Aqsa Mosque, on Jerusalem's Temple Mount. The Crusaders called it the Temple of Solomon, as it was built on top of the ruins of the original Temple, and it was from this location that the Knights took their name of Templar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Aqsa_Mosque (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Aqsa_Mosque)
Al-Aqsa Mosque also known as al-Aqsa, is an Islamic holy place in the Old City of Jerusalem. The site that includes the mosque (along with the Dome of the Rock) is also referred to as al-Haram ash-Sharif or "Sacred Noble Sanctuary", a site also known as the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism, the place where the First and Second Temples are generally accepted to have stood. Widely considered as the third holiest site in Islam, Muslims believe that Muhammad was transported from the Sacred Mosque in Mecca to al-Aqsa during the Night Journey. Islamic tradition holds that Muhammad led prayers towards this site until the seventeenth month after the emigration, when God ordered him to turn towards the Ka'aba.

Located On:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount)  
The Temple Mount, also known as Mount Moriah and by Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary, is a religious site in the Old City of Jerusalem.

Judaism regards the Temple Mount as the place where God chose the Divine Presence to rest, it was from here the world expanded into its present form and where God gathered the dust used to create the first man, Adam. The site is the location of Abraham's binding of Isaac, and of two Jewish Temples. According to the Bible the site should function as the center of all national life - government, judicial, economical (during the 2nd Temple period), and, of course, religious center. From that location the word of God will come out to all nations, and that is the site that all prayers are focused at. The first was built by Solomon the son of David in 957 BCE and destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BCE. The second was constructed under the auspices of Zerubbabel in 516 BCE and destroyed by the Roman Empire in 70 CE. Jewish tradition maintains it is here the Third and final Temple will also be built. The location is the holiest site in Judaism and is the place Jews turn towards during prayer. Due to its extreme sanctity, many Jews will not walk on the Mount itself, to avoid unintentionally entering the area where the Holy of Holies stood, since according to Rabbinical law, some aspect of the Divine Presence is still present at the site. It was from the Holy of Holies that the High Priest communicated directly with God. The ark of covenant and the tablets may still be buried in one of the many underground cavities at the site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Moriah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Moriah)
Moriah is the name given to a mountain range by the Book of Genesis, in which context it is given as the location of the sacrifice of Isaac. Traditionally Moriah has been interpreted as the name of the specific mountain at which this occurred, rather than just the name of the range. The exact location referred to is currently a matter of some debate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Genesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Genesis)
The Book of Genesis is the first book of the Hebrew Bible, the first of five books of the Torah, which are called the Pentateuch in the Christian Old Testament.

Genesis contains some of the best known biblical stories, including the Hebrew account of the creation of the world, Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel, the Call of Abraham, Abraham and the sacrifice of Isaac, Esau and Jacob, the marriage of Jacob, Jacob and Laban, Sarah and Pharaoh, Sarah and Abimelech, the battle of the Vale of Siddim, Sodom and Gomorrah, Jacob's wrestling with the angel at Peniel, Joseph and his coat of many colours, Joseph and the interpretation of Pharaoh's dreams, Onan and his sin, the seduction of Lot by his daughters, the Blessing of Jacob, the purchase of the cave of Machpelah, and others. Structurally, it consists of the "primeval history" (chapters 1–11) and cycles of Patriarchal stories (chapters 12–50)—Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (renamed, Israel), and concluding with Joseph. Modern critical scholarship believes that the Book of Genesis reached its final form in the 5th century BC, with a previous history of composition reaching back into the 6th and 7th centuries.

Located In:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem)
The oldest part of the city, the City of David, was settled in the 4th millennium BCE, making Jerusalem one of the oldest cities in the world. Jerusalem is the holiest city in Judaism and has been the spiritual center of the Jewish people since c. 1000 BCE, when David the King of Israel first established it as the capital of the united Kingdom of Israel (Psalms 122), and his son Solomon commissioned the building of the First Temple in the city. Jerusalem is also considered a holy city in Christianity and contains a number of significant Christian sites, and, due to the mentioning of 'The Farthest Mosque' in the Qur'an (Sura al-Isra) and the subsequent building of a mosque called 'the Farthest Mosque' on the Temple Mount, Islam regards Jerusalem as its third-holiest city.

Full Circle back to the beginning.
This IS just scratching the surface.
Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 20, 2010, 08:02:19 PM
I am going to start to seem redundant. I am having alot of diffculty posting this info.

My edit button does not work, actually it doesn't even exist. It is gone and I keep getting "error message". lol
Get back satan! lol

MORE LONDON and Templar Knights connections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights)
Temple Church, London. As the chapel of the New Temple in London, it was the location for Templar initiation ceremonies. In modern times it is the parish church of the Middle and Inner Temples, two of the Inns of Court. It is a popular tourist attraction.

The story of the secretive yet powerful medieval Templars, especially their persecution and sudden dissolution, has been a tempting source for many other groups which have used alleged connections with the Templars as a way of enhancing their own image and mystery.  Since at least the 1700s the Freemasons have incorporated some Templar symbols and rituals, most of which being found within a Masonic body referred to as the United Religious, Military and Masonic Orders of the Temple and of St John of Jerusalem, Palestine, Rhodes and Malta, or simply the Knights Templar. This organization exists either independently or as a part of the York Rite throughout much of the world. The Sovereign Military Order of the Temple of Jerusalem, founded in 1804, has achieved United Nations NGO status as a charitable organization.
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I knew THIS was gonna open up THE mother load BOX of Pandora's INFO.
So I think that it is very sad that The Freemasons have been given a bad rap in this "hoax".
I believe that is due to lack of education and research into the history of their origin and connections.
 :ugeek:
Since at least the 1700s the Freemasons have incorporated some Templar symbols and rituals, most of which being found within a Masonic body referred to as the United Religious, Military and Masonic Orders of the Temple and of St John of Jerusalem, Palestine, Rhodes and Malta, or simply the Knights Templar.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry)
Freemasonry uses the metaphors of operative stonemasons' tools and implements, against the allegorical backdrop of the building of King Solomon's Temple, to convey what has been described by both Masons and critics as "a system of morality veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols."

Ok so READ the INFO I have provided and get edumacated. Thanks
Peace
 :ugeek:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 20, 2010, 09:01:07 PM
:ugeek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemasonry)
Freemasonry uses the metaphors of operative stonemasons' tools and implements, against the allegorical backdrop of the building of King Solomon's Temple, to convey what has been described by both Masons and critics as "a system of morality veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols."

Backdrop used by Freemasons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon%27s_Temple (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon%27s_Temple)

According to the Hebrew Bible, Solomon's Temple, also known as the First Temple, was constructed by Solomon, king of the ancient Israelites, on mount Moriah in Jerusalem. It housed the Ark of the Covenant and functioned as a religious focal point in ancient Judaism for the worship of YHWH.

Housed "The ARK of the Covenant" on Mount Moriah.
Again back to the beg.>>Genesis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Genesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Genesis)

Connecting the DOTS and tweets:
http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
The tree of life or the tree of knowledge?
2:30 AM May 19th via web

A story From Book of Genesis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_and_Eve)
Genesis 2 opens with God fashioning a man from the dust and blowing life into his nostrils. God plants a garden (the Garden of Eden) and sets the man there, "to work it and watch over it," permitting him to eat of all the trees in the garden except the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, "for on the day you eat of it you shall surely die."

Another story from Genesis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah%27s_Ark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah%27s_Ark)
The Book of Genesis, chapters 6-9, tells how God sends a great flood to destroy the earth because of man's wickedness and because the earth is corrupt.

TS POST
TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1933&p=27592#p27592 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1933&p=27592#p27592)

In this final part, we are going to be examining once again the “2012” film—especially as it relates to the concept of the end of the world on 12-21-2012, which is exactly three years from today. The “2012” movie story starts in the year 2009, and ends in 2012.

The “four years” that MJ mentioned in TII started in the spring of 2009 (when the “This Is It” concerts were in the planning stages); so we have already gone through the first year. You could also think of the four years as ending on 9-9-09, 10-10-10, 11-11-11, and 12-12-12 (ten day countdown to 12-21-12). Of course these are a little more than a year apart; but they are interesting numerology milestones in the four year process.

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“Can Ye Not Discern the Signs of the Times?”

Jesus said: “… ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?” (Matthew 16:3). Jesus also said: “… when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh [near], even at the doors. … Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.” (Mark 13:29-32).

So we don’t know the exact day or hour of the end of the world—maybe not even the exact year. But if we can “discern the signs of the times”, we should be able to know when it is near! The exact date of 12-21-2012 for the end of the world is fiction; it could happen on that date, but unlikely. However the end of the world being near is a very real concept, and not merely fiction. So let’s look at some of the “signs of the times”, which show that the end is near.

Speaking of fleeing at the end of time, Jesus said: “But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the Sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” (Matthew 24:20,21). Did you know that 12-21-2012 will be the first day of winter (northern hemisphere)? And did you know that 12-21-2012 will be a Friday? And did you know that in the Bible, the Sabbath day begins at sunset on Friday?? Is it a coincidence, that both of the things which Jesus mentioned (winter and Sabbath) will begin on the same day that the Mayan calendar ends?

Again, this does not necessarily mean that the world will end on 12-21-2012; in fact, Jesus asked us to pray that we would not have to flee on that day. Nevertheless, the fact that all these things line up on the same day is almost certainly a clue (sign) that the end is near.

Another sign of the end is many natural disasters (see Matthew 24:7; Mark 13;8; Luke 21:11; etc). Did you know that earthquakes (along with other disasters) are on the increase? {http://earthquake.usgs.gov/}

"The 2nd Coming of Christ"
“The Son of Man Cometh at an Hour When Ye Think Not.”
“Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.” (Luke 12:40; see 12:46; Matthew 24:50). “… the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” (1 Thessalonians 5:2,3; see Luke 17:26-30).

Different people have different concepts—even within Christianity—about the end of the world: when it will happen, how it will happen, etc. And other religions also have their concepts of the end of time. But most people in most religions are realizing that the world is on the verge of some major change; that is just too obvious to hide.

And for those who think that there will be at least seven more years before the end, be careful. Maybe there will be, but maybe not. Remember that the Jews—even Christ’s own disciples—thought that prophecy was yet to be fulfilled, before the Messiah would come; and yet the prophecy had already been fulfilled, and they didn’t recognize it (see Malachi 4:5; Matthew 17:10-13; etc).

"As mentioned already (see R47), the Ark of the Covenant plays a major role near the end of time. Again, stayed tuned to TIAI for more info on the Ark; this will certainly happen well before 12-21-2012."
lol really?  :ugeek:

Full Circle.  :ugeek:
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1931&p=27579#p27579 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1931&p=27579#p27579)
R47. Ark of the Covenant
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant}
The Ark of the Covenant? What in the world does that have to do with MJ? Is there some connection with the Raiders of the Lost Ark?

"But stayed tuned: this is not it, there’s more to come. When the time is right, there will be further information about the Ark of the Covenant."
OMG I would say so... 8-)  

Just surface.
 :ugeek:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 21, 2010, 04:21:24 AM
Thank you for your findings ! The Dome of the Rock = Michael's Dome Project ?

Regarding the end of the world I have put something about it on thisisalmostit but nobody seemed to notice... I follow God's word in the Quran (I'm more familiar with it but I study the Bible too) so I think it's good that I put it here also as nobody is quoting it, to put all the perspectives together.

God says that Jesus is set as a marker/sign to know when the end will occur because God keeps the End almost secret. I think we can know the Year but not the Hour. The words are very important when reading the Scriptures.

The End will happen it's a certainty
[14:48] The day will come when this earth will be substituted with a new earth, and also the heavens, and everyone will be brought before GOD, the One, the Supreme.

[20:15] "The Hour is surely coming; I will keep it almost hidden, for each soul must be paid for its works.

In this verse (and the one above too) we understand that God provides all the signs needed to pinpoint the end of the world so that it will not come suddenly (for the believers):
[47:18] Are they waiting until the Hour comes to them suddenly? All the signs thereof have already come. Once the Hour comes to them, how will they benefit from their message?

End of the World Unveiled

[15:85] We did not create the heavens and the earth, and everything between them, except for a specific purpose. The end of the world will come, so treat them with benign neglect.
[15:86] Your Lord is the Creator, the Omniscient.
[15:87] We have given you the seven pairs, and the great Quran.
[15:88] Do not be jealous of what we bestowed upon the other (messengers), and do not be saddened (by the disbelievers), and lower your wing for the believers.
[15:89] And proclaim: "I am the manifest warner."
[15:90] We will deal with the dividers.

The seven pairs are the 14 (7+7) Quranic Initials. The total gematrical value of these profound pillars of the Quran's miracle pinpoints the year of the end of the world.

The Seven Pairs (we can find them in the beginning of the suras):

Total Gematrical Value of "The Seven Pairs" of Quranic Initials:

Quranic
Initial    Gematrical Value
1. Q                 100
2. N                  50
3. S (Saad)      90
4. H.M.       48
5. Y.S.        70
6. T.H.       14
7. T.S.       69
8. A.L.M.      71
9. A.L.R.      231
10. T.S.M.    109
11. `A.S.Q.    230
12. A.L.M.S.    161
13. A.L.M.R.     271
14. K.H.Y.`A.S.  195
                     Total =    1709

Note that the number 19 is the key to unveil hidden information in the Quran.

The unveiling of this information (end of the world) took place in the year 1400 AH (= Muslim calendar = 1980), 309 years before the prophesied end of the world (1709-1400=309). The number 309 is a Quranic number (see 18:25), and is connected with the end of the world (see 18:21).  The peculiar way of writing 309 in 18:25, "Three hundred years, increased by nine", indicates that the 309 are lunar years. The difference between 300 solar years and 300 lunar years is 9 years. The year of this discovery, 1400 AH, coincided with 1980 AD, and 1980 plus 300 solar years is 2280, also a multiple of 19, 19x120. Thus the world ends in 1710 AH, 19x90, which coincides with 2280 AD, 19x120. For the disbelievers who do not accept these powerful Quranic proofs, the end of the world will come suddenly.
(6:31, 44, 47; 7:95, 187; 12:107; 21:40, 22:55; 26:202; 29:53; 39:55; 43:66; and 47:18).
http://www.submission.org/suras/app25.html (http://www.submission.org/suras/app25.html)


"He (Jesus) is to serve as a marker for knowing the end of the world so that you can no longer harbour any doubt about it" 43:61

The birth of Jesus set as a marker for the end of the world

1- We know that between the birth of Jesus and the birth of Muhammad there is 570 years. 570 = 19 x 30

The numbers 19 and 30 are very significant within the miracle of the Quran. We know that the code of the Quran 19 is mentioned in verse 30 (Sura 74).

2- This number of years between the birth of Jesus and the birth of Muhammad, which is 570, confirms the calculations of the end of the world.

The world will end in the year 2280 A.D. , which corresponds to the year 1710 A.H.  Both 2280 and 1710 ( which are multiples of 19 ) are also multiples of 570.

2280 = 570 x 4
1710 = 570 x 3

3- The number of years between the birth of Jesus and Muhammad (570) is the same as the number of years between the end of the world in Solar calendar (2280) which is connected to the birth of Jesus, and the end of the world in Islamic Lunar calendar (1710) which is connected to the hijra  (immigration to Medina) of Muhammad (and not his birth).

Birth of Jesus (0) - Birth of Muhammed (570) = 570 years

End of world A.D (2280) - end of world A.H. (1710) = 570 years


I am confident to say that The End of The World will happen in the Year 2280.
People should study the code in the Quran, when you do it and if you have faith in God I promise that you will not think that these are coincidences. Now for 2012 or the years around something big will happen, a big change but I have not put (yet) my finger on it.

What is also important is to see things regarding the scale of our own life. We will die one day or the other so even if people don't believe in the end of the world they will definitely not live here forever.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 21, 2010, 08:55:29 AM
Just wanted to put what is on my mind here, it's a kind of parallel of the hoax and the message it convey in "real" life.

BeLIEve/believe

BeLIEve  = the truth
Believe = in God

Test

Hoax: our faith in the truth is under test based upon evidences not messengers. The evidences prove that the hoax is real that it has been thought, that there are no coincidences, that it's part of plan.

Real life: our faith in God is tested based upon faith in the messengers, Prophets and the Scriptures (our study of them and investigation).  Based also upon all that is around us, the evidences that God exists are so obvious that a lot of people don't see them = perfection of the Creation but when we ask for the how and the why we realize that a Great Intelligence is behind this creation, that there are no coincidences, that all this is part of a Plan.

Ark of the Covenant

Hoax: I see the Ark as being Planet Earth. If we don't save the planet we will perish. We have to protect her and prevent evildoers to destroy her. See Planet Earth poem from Michael (so beautiful !).

MJ AIRplane:
Where does this airplane go ?
If the message is to have faith in God then (to me) it goes to Paradise. It's a kind of Noah's Ark with special guests as the seats are limited. Believers only. In all airplanes there are first class, second class, economic = 7 heavens. Finally those who go on board fly in the same direction but with different levels of faith, hence different levels in Paradise. Well the most important is to go in Paradise because even the lower level is EXTRAordinary !
The plane has not yet took off. Maybe in 2012.

Real life: Planet Earth too, she is really in danger and us at the same time. Planet Earth = Noah's Ark.
Ark of the Covenant, the chest were relics lie inside still not discovered (not to my knowledge  ;) ). The unveiling of the Ark maybe a key to our salvation.

Warning/End of the World

Hoax: 2012 + 911 calls (or 9/11) = NWO Agenda.
Movie 2012 = big disaster.
Seems like there will be a "clash" between good and evil, a battle maybe, hence a big disaster, final battle before end the world ?

Real life: End of the world is a certainty, God tells us so, repeatedly in the Scriptures.
2012 (Mayan calendar) and 9/11 (attacks on 9/11, conspiracies, Illuminati) are also mentionned outside the hoax.
Satan's army prepares something ? An Army of Love has to be gathered to counterbalance and fight = "clash" that I was talking about ?
Michael is the commander in chief of the Army of Love. God's messenger ? We the "chosen" ones ?

(I always tell people that regardless of when the end is scheduled, regardless of what they think about the end of the world they should think about the end of their own life.)

777


7 Angels/7 trumpets
When the 7th Angel sounds the 7th Trumpet = End of the World
2012 may be the 6th Trumpet = Big change/disaster

7 seals/locks to unveil the Ark of the Covenant (key of salavation ?)

7 heavens = see MJ AIR above

It's all for LOVE.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 21, 2010, 03:17:49 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Just wanted to put what is on my mind here, it's a kind of parallel of the hoax and the message it convey in "real" life.

BeLIEve/believe

BeLIEve  = the truth
Believe = in God

Test

Hoax: our faith in the truth is under test based upon evidences not messengers. The evidences prove that the hoax is real that it has been thought, that there are no coincidences, that it's part of plan.

Real life: our faith in God is tested based upon faith in the messengers, Prophets and the Scriptures (our study of them and investigation).  Based also upon all that is around us, the evidences that God exists are so obvious that a lot of people don't see them = perfection of the Creation but when we ask for the how and the why we realize that a Great Intelligence is behind this creation, that there are no coincidences, that all this is part of a Plan.

Ark of the Covenant

Hoax: I see the Ark as being Planet Earth. If we don't save the planet we will perish. We have to protect her and prevent evildoers to destroy her. See Planet Earth poem from Michael (so beautiful !).

MJ AIRplane:
Where does this airplane go ?
If the message is to have faith in God then (to me) it goes to Paradise. It's a kind of Noah's Ark with special guests as the seats are limited. Believers only. In all airplanes there are first class, second class, economic = 7 heavens. Finally those who go on board fly in the same direction but with different levels of faith, hence different levels in Paradise. Well the most important is to go in Paradise because even the lower level is EXTRAordinary !
The plane has not yet took off. Maybe in 2012.

Real life: Planet Earth too, she is really in danger and us at the same time. Planet Earth = Noah's Ark.
Ark of the Covenant, the chest were relics lie inside still not discovered (not to my knowledge  ;) ). The unveiling of the Ark maybe a key to our salvation.

Warning/End of the World

Hoax: 2012 + 911 calls (or 9/11) = NWO Agenda.
Movie 2012 = big disaster.
Seems like there will be a "clash" between good and evil, a battle maybe, hence a big disaster, final battle before end the world ?

Real life: End of the world is a certainty, God tells us so, repeatedly in the Scriptures.
2012 (Mayan calendar) and 9/11 (attacks on 9/11, conspiracies, Illuminati) are also mentionned outside the hoax.
Satan's army prepares something ? An Army of Love has to be gathered to counterbalance and fight = "clash" that I was talking about ?
Michael is the commander in chief of the Army of Love. God's messenger ? We the "chosen" ones ?

(I always tell people that regardless of when the end is scheduled, regardless of what they think about the end of the world they should think about the end of their own life.)

777


7 Angels/7 trumpets
When the 7th Angel sounds the 7th Trumpet = End of the World
2012 may be the 6th Trumpet = Big change/disaster

7 seals/locks to unveil the Ark of the Covenant (key of salavation ?)

7 heavens = see MJ AIR above

It's all for LOVE.

AWESOME!

I absolutely Love the way you put your thoughts on this "hoax" and Real Life.  :mrgreen:

And Once again Thank you for helping bring forth Truth one step at a time.

The fact that The Quran is mentioned in the same context when I was looking up this info on wiki means that it is IMPORTANT and necessary to have that INFO along with Scriptures/Stories from The Bible.

The ONE thing that is UNDENIABLE in Both The Bible and The Quran is Jesus.

However people choose to view Jesus whether from The Quran veiw point or The Bible view point Jesus is The marker of Truth in Revelations coming to pass.

When I read What is said From Jesus' teachings to his disciples and then watch what is happening in this "hoax" I see IT ALL unfolding exactly like it was foretold.

Prophetic words are powerful, they will manifest in tangible, touchable, believable things and wonders. The key Is FAITH in the POWER of God's word and that we have the ability to make anything happen if we would "believe" and "have faith" it will happen.

 I think if there is MORE for this unfolding and revealing of TRUTH it should be told.
The ARK is only the beg. NOT the END.

I think if you find anything else of importance that you should add it here.

Thanks
Peace
Remember Pandora's BOX has been opened.   ;)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 21, 2010, 04:07:39 PM
Thank you  :D !

Yes the Pandora's Box has been opened indeed. I think we can talk about all the possibilities (sorry for the typos in my posts  :lol: ).

I want to add this :

7 layers in This Is It = 7 layers of Planet Earth

(http://www.answering-christianity.com/seven_layers_of_earth.gif)


Internal structure
Main article: Structure of the Earth

The interior of the Earth, like that of the other terrestrial planets, is divided into layers by their chemical or physical (rheological) properties. The outer layer of the Earth is a chemically distinct silicate solid crust, which is underlain by a highly viscous solid mantle. The crust is separated from the mantle by the Mohorovicic discontinuity, and the thickness of the crust varies: averaging 6 km under the oceans and 30–50 km on the continents. The crust and the cold, rigid, top of the upper mantle are collectively known as the lithosphere, and it is of the lithosphere that the tectonic plates are comprised. Beneath the lithosphere is the asthenosphere, a relatively low-viscosity layer on which the lithosphere rides. Important changes in crystal structure within the mantle occur at 410 and 660 kilometers below the surface, spanning a transition zone that separates the upper and lower mantle. Beneath the mantle, an extremely low viscosity liquid outer core lies above a solid inner core.[69] The inner core may rotate at a slightly higher angular velocity than the remainder of the planet, advancing by 0.1–0.5° per year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#Comp ... _structure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#Composition_and_structure)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 21, 2010, 06:02:15 PM
:geek:
Now isn't that amazing, The Earth being 7 layers..
And God's perfect number being 7.
Gee, doesn't take a scientist or geologist degree to figure that God must of made the Earth.

I love this and keep going.

Thanks
Peace
 :ugeek:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 22, 2010, 03:58:35 AM
Wanted to add this:

This Is It / Who Is It

In both scnenari there is an airplane...
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 22, 2010, 04:23:22 PM
When I stated before Key word "Templar Knights" I had NO clue exactly how key this would be.

The Templar Knights open up a huge Pandora's Box and I have found they are more connected to The discovery of truth than I realized.
Here is some more info I found while I was going back over TS posts on The ARK of The Covenant.
TIAI Revealed, Part 8: The End Is Near (R43 - R48)
viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1931&p=27579#p27579 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1931&p=27579#p27579)
 :ugeek:
Which btw some of the links are not found anymore,
>>>NOT FOUND(http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/ ... after-all/ (http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/10197;%20http://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/ethiopian-ark-of-the-covenant-not-to-be-revealed-after-all/))
and videos are removed from youtube (south park episodes on The ARK with Michael) >>> From This link>>> http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149823 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=149823)
but, it did lead me to this info posted below.
On The Templars Meditation and Prosperity Secrets. Shhhh lol
 ;)
 R47. Ark of the Covenant
{ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant) }

The Ark of the Covenant? What in the world does that have to do with MJ? Is there some connection with the Raiders of the Lost Ark? Perhaps. But those who read the Wiki article carefully noticed a very interesting date: “On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant …”
{ http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/93 ... revealed/; (http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/9322/ark-of-the-covenant-revealed/;) http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/ ... fter-all/; (http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/10197;%20http://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/ethiopian-ark-of-the-covenant-not-to-be-revealed-after-all/;) and http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149823 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=149823) }

The unveiling did not actually occur. But why the amazing date of 6-25-09, was this yet another strange coincidence? This of course was the exact same day that the MJ “death” was announced. Could there possibly be a relationship between the death hoax, and the unveiling of the Ark? In fact, could both of these things be directly related to the end of the world (see R49)?

 :ugeek:
Very enlightening this info and also the fact that today the redirect from TIAI: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=KJV (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%208:28,31&version=KJV)
Romans 8:28
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Romans 8:31
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

So you might say I was very amazed at what I found today. Enjoy and happy reading.
Peace
 :ugeek:

I found the Templar Prosperity link from This article on The ARK of The Covenant.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149782 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=149782)

http://rayelan.com/TemplarProsperityMeditation.htm (http://rayelan.com/TemplarProsperityMeditation.htm)
Below is some copied text from This page.

A Templar Secret of Prosperity
The Knights Templars had many secrets regarding their ability to acquire vast wealth. One of their secrets was discovered by Rayelan Allan. It took her many long years to discover that the Templar Secret of Prosperity is very simple.
It is so simple that most people can't find it, don't believe it or overlook it if they do stumble upon it.

 :ugeek: The secret is: Find out what God wants you to do, then do it. :ugeek:

This Templar Secret of Prosperity has NOTHING to do with money or being rich!
It's about being PROSPEROUS on all levels!!
 :ugeek:

SEED MONEY

Seed money is a VERY important principle that Light Workers need to understand and use everyday!!

For the sake of our planet and all who live on it, please read what is written here and practice the principles. Money is meant to be kept in motion. Knowing this and practicing this can speed money into your life and into the lives of other Light Workers who are here on earth for the purpose of assisting Mother Earth in these amazing and awakening times.

 :ugeek:
Excerpts from Seed Money in Action
by Jon Speller

The following excerpts were found on this page

kaykeys.net

The entire SEED MONEY book can be read online at this link:

Seed Money - The Law of Tenfold Return by Jon P. Speller

We should love money for the good it can do.
Functioning properly, money is "green energy." As energy it feeds the hungry, shelters the homeless, heals the sick, provides access to knowledge, opens the world to everyone through travel, and allows the comforts and pleasures desired by the whole human race.

One of the things for which money can be used is as Seed Money. This means that we can so use money that we reap a harvest of multiplied money and those things which can be purchased with money.

Money which is hoarded is useless, for money is only a medium of exchange. Money as energy is God in action, a means of doing good. As buried treasure it is inert, serving no one, doing nothing. Think of it as a living means of acquiring good for yourself and for everyone.

God works in mysterious ways. Often Seed Money tenfold return is not just tenfold in kind,but has added attributes of good beyond the expectation of the practicer of the Seed Money technique.

We should believe the principle.
Many people don't understand how the giving of Seed Money produces its tenfold return without any risk whatever. But it is a fact. The Law of Tenfold Return always works.

The reason there is no risk whatever in the principle of Seed Money is that it is rooted in the Holy Scriptures, "But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus."

Jesus said, "What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them." He did not say that you won't have them. He did not say that you might have them. He said that you shall have them.

The key word Jesus used there is "believe." There is no room for chance in believing. There is no room for chance in the Law of Tenfold Return.

The giving and receiving of Seed Money is an act of one human soul, and the soul is always individual. You must never allow another's disbelief to interfere with an act of faith which is your very own.

As God can satisfy every desire, the only limitation on Seed Money returns is you, yourself. You alone can affect your reaping of your tenfold harvest—regardless of the amount involved.

There is no Divine Limitation, only our human one.

As there are many forms of wealth, so your tenfold return from Seed Money giving is not necessarily in the form of currency. Remember that money is solely a medium of exchange. The goods and services you acquire with it are what is important, not the money itself.

The Law of Tenfold Return can fulfill every righteous desire. It is not limited by price. It is not limited by lack. The resources of God are unlimited, and every human being has direct access to these resources.

We should trust in and demand God's bounty.
In trusting God one cannot fear—and the principle of Seed Money demands absolute trust in God. If you fear, what you get is what you get.

 :ugeek:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 22, 2010, 04:47:02 PM
This whole experience is about unveiling TRUTH...
OMG, THIS really is a PANDORA'S BOX  :shock:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/RMN%20FOUN ... AYELAN.htm (http://www.rumormillnews.com/RMN%20FOUNDERS%20GUNTHER%20AND%20RAYELAN.htm)

The following articles give a small idea of who Founded Rumor Mill News

Gunther and Rayelan Allan Russbacher Founded Rumor Mill News in 1996 as a Print Magazine. After Gunther disappeared, in December of 1996, Rayelan discontinued it as a magazine. She started Rumor Mill News again in 1998 as an internet newsletter. In 1999 she launched it as a webpage. It has become one of the Internet's most popular webpages.

Gunther Russbacher was a CIA operative. Rayelan was a lecturer and investigator who worked with Barbara Honegger, the author of the first book on the October Surprise scandal. When Gunther and Rayelan married in 1989, the Bush Administration panicked. As a result, Gunther became the most famous political prisoner of the George H.W. Bush administration. Russbacher was the pilot who flew Bush back from the negotiations in Paris that finalized the October Surprise. Rayelan was an investigator who was working to expose the October Surprise!

From 1989 to late 1996, when he disappeared, Gunther spent all but 9 months of their marriage in prison! During that time, there were numerous attempts to kill both of them. Their lawyer and friend Paul Wilcher WAS murdered! Gunther's sons were beaten and jailed, he was told they would be gang raped if he talked. Rayelan was charged with trespassing on a military base and faced prison. To keep her out of prison, where he was told she would be murdered, Gunther pled guilty!

The story of what they went through is compelling! They loved each other and they fought to stay together. Only the CIA and Mind Control separated them! To understand what they went through, please read "Journey Into Hell" and "The Amazing Rayelan Allan". These two articles are short and give a concise overview of the first two years of their marriage. Little has been written about either of them since that time! The article, "Gunther Russbacher, Prisoner of the New World Order" was the last article written about them. Their story ends in late 1996 with Gunther's disappearance. He re-appeared in early 1997, with a new wife and NO memory of every being married to Rayelan.



This is a picture of the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey California. Rayelan's first husband, Dr. John N. Dyer, was the Dean of Science and Engineering at NPS. In 1976, Rayelan and her husband, John attended a cocktail party for visiting dignitaries. One of the visitors was a Naval officer named Robert Andrew Walker. Many years later, Rayelan found out that Bob Walker and Gunther Russbacher were one and the same!


NEW READERS HAVE NO IDEA WHO CREATED RUMOR MILL!
Betty Jean Speaks Out!

Please click LINK above to read ALL.
 :ugeek:
Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 22, 2010, 05:40:44 PM
:ugeek:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/RUSSBACHER_DOCS.htm (http://www.rumormillnews.com/RUSSBACHER_DOCS.htm)
Gunther Russbacher was a CIA operative.

This is about The Contra Affairs and President Bush always denying involvement.
The Bush Family has been screwing The USA for along TIME.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair)
The Contra Affairs with Oliver North.

A Man By The Name of  http://twitter.com/FreewayRicky (http://twitter.com/FreewayRicky)
Was SET UP back THEN during THE CONTRA Affairs and spent 20 years in Prison because of LA Corruption, The Reagan administration, and Oliver North.

Truth being exposed.

[youtube:28umjv3t]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX_-xMqg-6E[/youtube:28umjv3t]

[youtube:28umjv3t]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYgwIBXMNho&feature=related[/youtube:28umjv3t]

[youtube:28umjv3t]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxUQJbsdX0E&feature=related[/youtube:28umjv3t]


 :ugeek:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 23, 2010, 06:05:13 AM
I thought we should also look here. I just put an excerpt it's better to read the whole wiki page:

Priory of Sion

The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail
For more details on this topic, see The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail.

After reading Le Trésor Maudit, Lincoln persuaded BBC Two to devote three episodes in their Chronicle documentary series to the topic. These became quite popular and generated thousands of responses. Lincoln then joined forces with Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh for further research. This led them to the pseudohistorical Dossiers Secrets at the Bibliothèque nationale de France, which though alleging to portray hundreds of years of medieval history, were actually all written by Plantard and de Chérisey under the pseudonym of "Philippe Toscan du Plantier". Unaware that the documents had been forged, Lincoln, Baigent and Leigh used them as a major source for their 1982 controversial non-fiction book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail,[1] in which they presented the following myths as facts to support their hypotheses:[7]

    * there is a secret society known as the Priory of Sion, which has a long history starting in 1099, and had illustrious Grand Masters including Leonardo da Vinci and Isaac Newton;
    * it created the Knights Templar as its military arm and financial branch; and
    * it is devoted to installing the Merovingian dynasty, that ruled the Franks from 457 to 751, on the thrones of France and the rest of Europe.


However, the authors re-interpreted the Dossiers Secrets in the light of their own interest in undermining the Roman Catholic Church's institutional reading of Judeo-Christian history.[25] Contrary to Plantard's initial Franco-Israelist claim that the Merovingians were only descended from the Tribe of Benjamin,[26] they asserted that:

    * the Priory of Sion protects Merovingian dynasts because they may be the genealogical descendants of the historical Jesus and his alleged wife, Mary Magdalene, traced further back to King David; and
    * the Church tried to kill off all remnants of this dynasty and their supposed guardians, the Cathars and the Templars, so popes could hold the episcopal throne through the apostolic succession of Peter without fear of it ever being usurped by an antipope from the hereditary succession of Mary Magdalene.


The authors therefore concluded that the modern goals of the Priory of Sion are:

  * the public revelation of the Holy Grail - a secret tied to the lost treasure of the Temple in Jerusalem - which would facilitate Merovingian restoration in France;
    * the establishment of a theocratic "United States of Europe", as an interlocking network of Merovingian popular monarchies, which would re-institutionalize chivalry, and be politically and religiously unified through the imperial cult of a Merovingian sacred king, who occupies both the throne of Europe and the Holy See; and
    * the transfer of the governance of Europe and its sphere of influence to the Priory of Sion through a federal parliament.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion)

Seems like a big deception. Just exploring of course Pandora's box is wide opened.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 23, 2010, 06:34:39 AM
Off topic: I study the Bible and I find that there are (too ?) many versions where the order of the words is different or are not the same.  Which one is the most accurate ? I came across what is called the "New Revised Standard Version" of the Bible and the "New King James Version". If I could read hebrew it would be better  :lol:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 23, 2010, 03:35:27 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
I thought we should also look here. I just put an excerpt it's better to read the whole wiki page:

Priory of Sion

The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail
For more details on this topic, see The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail.

After reading Le Trésor Maudit, Lincoln persuaded BBC Two to devote three episodes in their Chronicle documentary series to the topic. These became quite popular and generated thousands of responses. Lincoln then joined forces with Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh for further research. This led them to the pseudohistorical Dossiers Secrets at the Bibliothèque nationale de France, which though alleging to portray hundreds of years of medieval history, were actually all written by Plantard and de Chérisey under the pseudonym of "Philippe Toscan du Plantier". Unaware that the documents had been forged, Lincoln, Baigent and Leigh used them as a major source for their 1982 controversial non-fiction book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail,[1] in which they presented the following myths as facts to support their hypotheses:[7]

    * there is a secret society known as the Priory of Sion, which has a long history starting in 1099, and had illustrious Grand Masters including Leonardo da Vinci and Isaac Newton;
    * it created the Knights Templar as its military arm and financial branch; and
    * it is devoted to installing the Merovingian dynasty, that ruled the Franks from 457 to 751, on the thrones of France and the rest of Europe.


However, the authors re-interpreted the Dossiers Secrets in the light of their own interest in undermining the Roman Catholic Church's institutional reading of Judeo-Christian history.[25] Contrary to Plantard's initial Franco-Israelist claim that the Merovingians were only descended from the Tribe of Benjamin,[26] they asserted that:

    * the Priory of Sion protects Merovingian dynasts because they may be the genealogical descendants of the historical Jesus and his alleged wife, Mary Magdalene, traced further back to King David; and
    * the Church tried to kill off all remnants of this dynasty and their supposed guardians, the Cathars and the Templars, so popes could hold the episcopal throne through the apostolic succession of Peter without fear of it ever being usurped by an antipope from the hereditary succession of Mary Magdalene.


The authors therefore concluded that the modern goals of the Priory of Sion are:

  * the public revelation of the Holy Grail - a secret tied to the lost treasure of the Temple in Jerusalem - which would facilitate Merovingian restoration in France;
    * the establishment of a theocratic "United States of Europe", as an interlocking network of Merovingian popular monarchies, which would re-institutionalize chivalry, and be politically and religiously unified through the imperial cult of a Merovingian sacred king, who occupies both the throne of Europe and the Holy See; and
    * the transfer of the governance of Europe and its sphere of influence to the Priory of Sion through a federal parliament.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion)

Seems like a big deception. Just exploring of course Pandora's box is wide opened.



This Is Good.

I have No idea when you started to look into this but, just yesterday I was looking at this same info and I went even further into this, YES IT IS A  BIG DECEPTION.
(I will explain why)

I have found a bunch of info and I am going to bring it here a.s.a.p.

Sit down for it though and keep an open mind.

Stay Tuned.

Also this is freaky but, I get weird TADA moments, when the light bulb aka (revelations or visions) idea hits me while I am awake, and along time ago I had this tada moment that Jesus was in fact married to Mary Magdalene, but I don't believe they had a child. I could be wrong.
 
So I will be back with ALOT more info that I found yesterday.

As far as the Bible and which one is correct or more accurate...I haven't a clue, lol
I always use The Amplified Version because it makes it easier for me to understand and interpret the scriptures. Bible for dummys is what I call that version.

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 23, 2010, 05:49:41 PM
Ok Here we go...

My explanation on THE BIG DECEPTION according to the following info I have found after doing some research.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_B ... Holy_Grail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail)

The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail (retitled Holy Blood, Holy Grail in the United States) is a controversial book by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln.
The book was first published in 1982 by Jonathan Cape in London, as an unofficial follow-up to three BBC TV documentaries being part of the Chronicle series. A sequel to the book, called The Messianic Legacy, was published in 1987. The original work was reissued in an illustrated hardcover version in 2005. One of the books, according to the authors, which influenced the project was L’Or de Rennes (later re-published as Le Trésor Maudit), a 1967 book by Gérard de Sède, with the collaboration of Pierre Plantard.

In this book, the authors put forward a hypothesis that the historical Jesus married Mary Magdalene, had one or more children, and that those children or their descendants emigrated to what is now southern France. Once there, they intermarried with the noble families that would eventually become the Merovingian dynasty, whose special claim to the throne of France is championed today by a secret society called the Priory of Sion.

An international bestseller upon its release, The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail spurred interest in a number of ideas related to its central thesis. Response from professional historians and scholars from related fields was universally negative. They argued that the bulk of the claims, ancient mysteries, and conspiracy theories presented as facts are pseudohistorical. Nevertheless, these ideas were considered blasphemous enough for the book to be banned in some Roman Catholic-dominated countries such as the Philippines.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davidic_line (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davidic_line)
The Davidic line (also referred to as the House of David) ( - "Royal House of David") refers to the tracing of lineage to the King David referred to in the Hebrew Bible, as well as the New Testament. Though this is especially relevant to kings claiming royal lineage and to major leaders in Jewish history, it is also relevant in a general sense to anyone who claims descent from King David.


Initially, David was king over the Tribe of Judah only and ruled from Hebron, but after seven years the other Israelite tribes chose him to be their king as well:
"Then came all the tribes of Israel to David to Hebron, and spoke, saying: 'Behold, we are your bone and your flesh. In times past, when Saul was king over us, it was you that did lead out and bring in Israel; and the Lord said to you: You shalt feed my people Israel, and you shall be prince over Israel.' So all the elders of Israel came to the king to Hebron; and king David made a covenant with them in Hebron before the Lord; and they anointed David king over Israel..." (2 Samuel 5:1-3).

Genealogy of Jesus
The Gospels, Acts of the Apostles and Pauline epistles refer to Jesus of Nazareth as a descendant of David. The Gospels give two separate genealogies for Jesus. Christian faith regards Jesus as having been born of a virgin, Mary, and, consequently, as not having natural human father. Nevertheless, he is considered to be a prince of Judah as though Mary's husband Joseph were in fact his father.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jesus)

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David is from the Tribe of Judah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Judah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Judah)

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Which turned into the Kingdom of Judah when he was elevated to King status.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Judah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Judah)
The Kingdom of Judah  existed at two periods in Jewish history. According to the Hebrew Bible, a kingdom emerged in Judah after the death of Saul, when the tribe of Judah elevated David, who came from the Tribe of Judah, to rule over it. After seven years David became king of a reunited Kingdom of Israel, and David moved the capital from Hebron to Jerusalem. However, in about 930 BC the united kingdom split, with ten of the twelve Tribes of Israel rejecting Solomon's son Rehoboam as their king. The Tribes of Judah and Benjamin remained loyal to Rehoboam, and reformed the Kingdom of Judah, while the other entity continuing to be called the Kingdom of Israel, or Israel. The Kingdom of Judah is also often referred to as the Southern Kingdom, while the Kingdom of Israel following the split is referred to as the Northern Kingdom.



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The bloodline from Davidic Line, Jesus and Mary Magdalene decendants (supposedly)
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The Davidic line (also referred to as the House of David)
 A hypothesis that the historical Jesus married Mary Magdalene, had one or more children, and that those children or their descendants emigrated to what is now southern France. Once there, they intermarried with the noble families that would eventually become the Merovingian dynasty, whose special claim to the throne of France is championed today by a secret society called the Priory of Sion.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty)
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_bloodline (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_bloodline)

A Jesus bloodline is a hypothetical sequence of direct descendants of the historical Jesus and Mary Magdalene, or some other woman, usually portrayed as his alleged wife or a hierodule. Differing and contradictory versions of a Jesus bloodline hypothesis have been promoted by numerous books, websites and films of non-fiction and fiction in the late 20th and early 21st centuries, which have almost all been dismissed as works of pseudohistory and conspiracy theory. According to an overwhelming majority of professional historians and scholars from related fields, there is no historical, biblical, apocryphal, archaeological, genealogical or genetic evidence which supports this modern hypothesis. Hypothetical Jesus bloodlines should not be confused with the biblical genealogy of Jesus or the historical relatives of Jesus and their descendants known as the Desposyni.


History of the hypothesis
The Jesus bloodline hypothesis which held that the historical Jesus had married Mary Magdalene and fathered a child with her was brought to the attention of the general public in the 20th century by Donovan Joyce in his 1973 book The Jesus Scroll. In his 1977 book Jesus died in Kashmir: Jesus, Moses and the ten lost tribes of Israel, Andreas Faber-Kaiser explored the legend that Jesus met, married and had several children with a Kashmiri woman. The author also interviewed the late Basharat Saleem who claimed to be a Kashmiri descendant of Jesus. Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln developed and popularized the hypothesis that a bloodline from Jesus and Mary Magdalene eventually became the Merovingian dynasty in their 1982 controversial non-fiction book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, in which they asserted:

“The symbolic significance of Jesus is that he is God exposed to the spectrum of human experience - exposed to the first-hand knowledge of what being a man entails. But could God, incarnate as Jesus, truly claim to be a man, to encompass the spectrum of human experience, without coming to know two of the most basic, most elemental facets of the human condition? Could God claim to know the totality of human existence without confronting two such essential aspects of humanity as sexuality and paternity? We do not think so. In fact, we do not think the Incarnation truly symbolises what it is intended to symbolise unless Jesus were married and sired children. The Jesus of the Gospels, and of established Christianity, is ultimately incomplete - a God whose incarnation as man is only partial. The Jesus who emerged from our research enjoys, in our opinion, a much more valid claim to what Christianity would have him be.”

In her 1992 book Jesus and the Riddle of the Dead Sea Scrolls: Unlocking the Secrets of His Life Story, Barbara Thiering also developed a Jesus and Mary Magdalene bloodline hypothesis, basing her historical conclusions on her application of the so-called Pesher technique to the New Testament.

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I will be back.
Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 23, 2010, 06:50:22 PM
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... read=12386 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=12386)

MASS TRAUMA-PROGRAMMING OF HUMANITY
Posted By: EmailTheEditor
Date: Tuesday, 2-Oct-2001 13:31:35
From: RMNEWS_DAILY_EMAILS
(My "RMNewsUpdates" Username is not yet working, so for now RMN Daily E-Mails will appear under "EmailTheEditor")
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From: "World-Action" <michaeli@globalnet.co.uk>
Date: Mon Oct 1, 2001 10:40pm
Subject: MASS TRAUMA-PROGRAMMING OF HUMANITY
DID WE ~~~ DIE WITH KENNEDY?
"NOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE FORCED TO
CONFRONT A SCARY ALTERNATIVE REALITY, THE
REALITY OF A SHADOW GOVERNMENT, OVER WHICH
THEY HAD NEITHER CONTROL OR KNOWLEDGE."
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DID WE ~~~ DIE WITH KENNEDY?
Psychologic~~~y, we ~~~ died to lesser or greater extent
when President Kennedy was killed openly infront of the
whole world in 1963. The real, vicious and calculating
killers of Kennedy ~~~ got clean away. And innocent people,
everywhere, were the victims. And the world changed.
Therefore, we MUST change it back. The following will
give you clues to HOW we can change it back.
The first third isn't too important, but will give you clues
how these daft people think. The last third - showing the
change the world went through AFTER Kennedy's death
- is the important part. Obviously, the killing of Princess
Diana was another key "mass-trauma, mind-control assault"
against ~~~ the good people of the world.
Perhaps, we are just about to recover. Uncover the global
cover-ups, and recover ourselves. For sure the soul of John
F. Kennedy would be happy if we did fight back and change
the world back to what it should have been. And Diana too.
"UNCOVER THE GLOBAL COVER-UPS,
AND RECOVER OURSELVES"
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"The assassination of JFK was a performance
of the occult ritual c~~~ed The Killing of the King,
designed as a mass-trauma, mind-control assault
against the national body-politic of the United
States."
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"The more one studies mind control, secret societies and
the occult, the more one understands the subtlety and
hidden symbolism of the Kennedy assassination.
 
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http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... read=59320 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=59320)

WORLD WIDE CATASTROPHIC WAR WILL USHER IN A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT
Posted By: Rayelan <Send E-Mail>
Date: Monday, 15-Nov-2004 15:40:28

WHO IS BEHIND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN HOLLAND?
THE NWO & THE HEGELIAN DIALECTIC

If you want society to become something different than it is, you must set up the conditions which will bring about the desired results.

The German philosopher, Frederich Hegel called it: Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis. His technique is now called "The Hegelian Dialectic".

The CIA/NWO calls it: Crisis Creation, Crisis Solution, Crisis Control.

It goes this way... If you want a One world government with you and yours at the top, you have to create the conditions in which sovereign citizens will beg you to do whatever it takes to bring peace.

Here's an example of how to create a One World Government:

Step One: Encourage liberal immigration. Give the immigrants welfare, healthcare. Do not require that they learn the language of the country. Allow them to live separately. Encourage conflict.

Step Two: Fan the flames of conflict until war breaks out. This was done in Kosovo. Remember, Kosovo at one time this century was Serbian. The Albanian Muslims kept immigrating, refusing to learn the language, refusing to educate their children in Kosovo schools. War broke out. The United Nations went in and is now controlling the area. The moment they leave, war will break out again. Meanwhile, Christian churches continue to be burnt to the ground and Christians continue to be killed. Hate continues to build.

Repeat Steps One and Two in many different countries around the globe. Make sure the immigrants have the same thing in common, either communism or Islam, or preferably, the two together! This way when the flames are fanned high enough, the communists and the Islamists can unite and the whole world can go up in flames at one time.

Step Three: The kindly new world order comes in with a plan to stop the wars. Oh yes, they will stop them... they will simply stop paying the rebels, aka, insurgents, aka, freedom fighters, aka terrorists. They will close their munitions factories. Nations will no longer be able to buy the weapons they need to defend themselves. Once there is no more money to buy weapons, and no more weapons sold to nations, a peace maker will appear on the scene.

The peace maker may be the long awaited Messiah, or it may be the Maitreya, or the Second Coming of Jesus, or Gaia, or the Goddess/Princess Diana, or Mohammed, or all of the above. It could be an actual human, or it could be a holographic projections brought to you by Operation Bluebeam.

The peacemaker will produce a little magic, and voila, no more war. No more bombs, no more tanks, no more landmines, no more guns, except in the hands of the peacemakers.

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http://dianaqueenofheaven.com/ (http://dianaqueenofheaven.com/)
 
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http://www.rumormillnews.com/DianaIndex.htm (http://www.rumormillnews.com/DianaIndex.htm)

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My Commentary:

This is One Big Deception. To fake the people out and deceive the people into believing in a One world religion and The Anti-Christ. The Anti-Christ would be the One to claim he is a descendant from the Davidic Line and the descendant of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.

So in keeping with that theory and the info on the bloodline of The Merovingian and how they got together with Royalty it leads to Princess Diana and her children and The Church of Diana.

This is only one thing I found. The links above are a MUST READ. The Project Blue Beam Mind Control is what needs to be explored. This ALL LEADS to other stuff but, for now this is a lot to absorb. I shall return with more at a later time. It does come FULL circle Right Back to the topic of The Temple Mount and that is a place that The false Christ and The NWO is looking at taking over and where they will establish or try to establish The One world religion.

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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount)
The Temple Mount, also known as Mount Moriah and by Muslims as the Noble Sanctuary, is a religious site in the Old City of Jerusalem.

Judaism regards the Temple Mount as the place where God chose the Divine Presence to rest, it was from here the world expanded into its present form and where God gathered the dust used to create the first man, Adam. The site is the location of Abraham's binding of Isaac, and of two Jewish Temples. According to the Bible the site should function as the center of all national life - government, judicial, economical (during the 2nd Temple period), and, of course, religious center. From that location the word of God will come out to all nations, and that is the site that all prayers are focused at. The first was built by Solomon the son of David in 957 BCE and destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BCE. The second was constructed under the auspices of Zerubbabel in 516 BCE and destroyed by the Roman Empire in 70 CE. Jewish tradition maintains it is here the Third and final Temple will also be built. The location is the holiest site in Judaism and is the place Jews turn towards during prayer. Due to its extreme sanctity, many Jews will not walk on the Mount itself, to avoid unintentionally entering the area where the Holy of Holies stood, since according to Rabbinical law, some aspect of the Divine Presence is still present at the site. It was from the Holy of Holies that the High Priest communicated directly with God. The ark of covenant and the tablets may still be buried in one of the many underground cavities at the site.


This lady Rayelan is the founder of Rumor Mill News and she is the one who was married to The CIA guy.

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http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... read=37400 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=37400)

PROJECT BLUE BEAM AND THE MAITREYA, MESSIAH, BUDDHA...
Posted By: Rayelan <Send E-Mail>
Date: Monday, 29-Sep-2003 17:03:06
In Response To: BENJAMIN CREME'S "MAITREYA," APPARENTLY, IS EVERYWHERE! *PIC* (billym)

From Rayelan:
When I wrote the book, Diana, Queen of Heaven I was trying to wake up the people and warn them about a new and fake religion that is going to be foisted upon us by the NWO. At the time, it appeared as if the NWO was getting ready to use the old Goddess Gaia as the supreme being for the NWR (New World Religion). But then Princess Diana was assassinated and I was told that Gaia was being replaced by the Goddess Diana, who was the supreme being in much of Europe until Jesus replaced her. In fact, she was never actually replaced... she was just renamed "Mother Mary" and called, "The Mother of God".

Here is a section from Diana, Queen of Heaven. If you want to order the book, please visit the webpage.

Diana, Queen of Heaven
One of the most vocal researchers into Project Blue Beam and the use of it to create a New World Religion, was Canadian investigative journalist, Serge Monast. In interviews and articles, Monast states that NASA's "Project Blue Beam" will be used to usher in a New World Religion: " the return of the Messiah will be projected on the evening sky with the use of space based holographic lasers. Religious doctrine, from a New World Religion, will be used to program and control humanity."

The only way to stop a New World Religion is to prevent the New World Order and its various front companies, such as the United Nations, the Tavistock Institute, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Federal Reserve Banks, the International Monetary Fund and tens of thousands small think tanks around the World, from destroying "nationalism" in favor of "globalism". If the World does not wake up soon, the Globalists will make our collective future seem like a page out of Brave New World.

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The technology used in electronic mind-control is too complicated to explain in this small book. A reading list is included at the end for people wanting more information. And there are numerous web sites devoted to exposing mind control. These are easily accessed from a public library by going to a Search Engine and typing in the words: "mind control". If you have never used the Internet before, simply ask your librarian to help you.

When the technology for putting a voice inside a human head is combined with "Project Blue Beam", you can create a "Messiah in the Sky", who can preach to every human being on Earth, in their native tongue.

Canadian Researcher Serge Monast
Project Blue Beam was first introduced to the United States by Canadian researcher Serge Monast.

Monast says:"Computers will coordinate the satellites and software will run the show and tell." (Holography is based on very nearly identical signals projected in combination to produce a single three-dimensional image, or hologram.)

"Specifically, the show will consist of laser projections of multiple holographic images according to predominating regional/national religious faith. Not a single area will be excluded."

"With computer animation and sound effects appearing to come from the depths of space, astonished followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned Messiah in spectacularly convincing lifelike realness."

"After correct explanations of the mysteries, prophecies and revelations have been disclosed, the projections of "The Christ" of Mohammed, Buddha, Krishna, etc. will merge into one. This one God (or Goddess) will explain that the various scriptures have been misunderstood; that the religions of old are responsible for turning brother against brother, nation against nation, therefore the World's religions must be abolished to make way for the Golden Age (New Age) of the One World Religion, representing the one god they see before them."
 
"Naturally, this superbly staged, full scale falsification will result in social/religious disorder on a grand scale, including millions of programmed religious fanatics. Many scenarios are possible, including a Holy War in the Middle East. In addition, this will occur at a time of great political anarchy and general tumult–at the edge of something big." Possibly the end of the millennium, Y2K, or Worldwide depression and war?

According to Monast, Project Blue Beam contains four different parts:
"The NASA Blue Beam Project contains Four different Parts, Four Steps toward the implementation of the New World Religion."

"The First Step concerns the "Break down" of all Archeological knowledge. It deals with the set up of earthquakes at certain precise locations of the planet where supposedly new discoveries will finally explain the wrong meaning of all major Religions' basic doctrines."

"The Second Step deals with the gigantic space show with tri-dimensional optical Holograms and sounds. Laser projections of multiple holographic images to different parts of the World, each receiving different images according to predominating regional/national faith. The New God's (or Goddess's) image will be talking in all languages."

"The Soviets have manufactured the advanced computers, and fed them the minute psychical particulars based on their studies about the anatomy and biology of the human body, as well as studies about the anatomy, chemistry and electricity of the human brain. These computers were fed, as well, with the different languages and their meanings."

"This step goes along with the telepathic electronic two way communications where ELF, VLF, LF waves will reach the people of the Earth inside of their being, making each one believe that its own god is talking to each one from within his own soul. Such rays, from satellites, are fed from the memory of computers which stored a lot of data about the human being and languages. These rays will then interlace and interwave with the natural thinking to form diffused artificial thought."

The Fourth Step concerns the Universal Supernatural manifestations with electronic means. It contains three different orientations:
 
The first orientation is to make mankind believe, that an Alien invasion is about to strike each major city of the Earth This will be done to push each major nation into using its nuclear weapons to strike back at the aliens. (RMNews Note: In this week's Weekley World News, they are accouncing an alien invasion and the only way we will be able to stop it is to use nuclear weapons "which will result in the loss of millions of humans.") This way will put each of these Nations in a state of full disarmament in front of the United Nations after the false attack.

The second orientation is to make the Christians believe a major Rapture is imminent. The Rapture will occur with ‘divine' intervention of an alleged ‘good' Alien force who are coming to save the good people from a brutal satanic attack. Its goal is to get rid of all significant opposition to the New World Order. (They will be ‘raptured" out of existence.)

The third orientation is a mixture of Electronic and Supernatural forces. The Waves, (micro and radio) used at that time will allow supernatural forces to travel through optical fiber, coaxial cable electric and phone lines in order to penetrate everywhere a piece of electronic equipment or an appliance is already installed The goal of this orientation deals with a global satanic ghost specter all around the World.

The global satanic ghost will push all populations to the edge of sanity and they will drown in a wave of suicides, killings and permanent psychological disorders.

"Then, after that "Night of a Thousand Stars", humanity will be ready to implore any new Messiah to re-establish Peace everywhere... at any cost... even at the cost of Freedom abdication!!"

Quoted from Project Bluebeam, a manuscript by Serge Monast
available from Agence Internationale Presse Libre

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Dr. Henry Kissinger has said the best way to unite the World into a One World Government would be a "threat from outer space"

Update of NASA "The Blue Beam Project"
Source: US government document entitled: ‘Staff Memorandum to Members of Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments", dated June 27 1994

"A search of CIA records on Human Radiation Experiments, pre-empting a call by President Clinton for all relevant government agencies to make such records available to Congressional committee currently investigating "human Radiation Experimentation" conducted by government agencies throughout recent decades, has been called on January the 4th,1994 by James Woolsey, Director of Central Intelligence."

"A footnote on Page 4 of the Memorandum states: "The CIA did investigate the use and effect of "microwaves" on humans in response to a soviet practice of "Beaming Microwaves" on the US Embassy."

"Directed energy weapons currently being deployed in covert operations by the CIA include "A microwave weapon" manufactured by Lockheed-Sanders and used for a process known as "voice synthesis" which is the remote beaming of "Audio" directly into the brain of any selected individual. This process is also known in other research fields as "Synthetic Telepathy". In NASA vocabulary, it is known as: "Space Electronic Telepathic Two Way Communications."
 
"Dr. David Morgan, on November the 17th, 1993 has demonstrated this weapon at a Classified Conference on Non lethal Defense which was sponsored at that time by the Los Alamos National Laboratories. That conference was held at the Kossiakoff Center of Applied Physics Laboratories, at Johns Hopkins University. Recent reports appeared in one US Defense Magazine suggested that the FBI and BATF deployed such a weapon against David Koresh at the Waco siege to make him believe that God was taking directly into his head." Project Blue Beam by Serge Monast

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The Order of the Solar Temple and Mind Control

One of the mind controlled cults created by the New World Order was the Order of the Solar Temple. Maurice Strong undoubtedly, one of the most powerful men in the World, was behind the creation of this cult. Luc Jouret, the official Grand Master, or leader of the cult, wrote the following article.

Newspapers reported that all of the cult members committed suicided in 1995. However, many people believe Luc Jouret and hundreds of cult members are still alive.

Microwaves
"State control of the mental faculties of its citizens is the single most important weapon in the battle to establish the New World Order. Methods range from the ancient propagandas of Religion and Nationalism to the modern technologies of Electromagnetic and Acoustic weapons. Most useful to the State are the weapons which directly and permanently affect the well being of all citizens." (ie: potential troublemakers).

"Viral technologies have been studied for decades, and the USA even admits to past experiments, releasing viruses into the subways and streets of some major cities, so they could study the pattern of disease spread. Of course they only admit to doing such things in the 1950s but it has been proposed that these experiments still take place."

"Climate control, social pressures and increased leisure time are used to convince people to congregate in large groups, during warm weather; an ideal situation for the spread of viruses. The resultant illness is not easily defined or diagnosed. The victim will be listless, slightly confused and physically ill at ease. They will, however, be fit to work and unlikely to bother a doctor with minor complaints. Also, the symptoms may be untreatable and vague enough to be questioned by cynics and dismissed by those who stand to profit from the condition."

"The overall effect is to pacify and debilitate the population. A useful side effect is the social pressure of the group, which discourages individualism, freedom of thought, intelligence and constructive actions. More serious modern illnesses may be the result of similar policies."

"Accusations of overactive imaginations and insanity are the common reactions to those suffering from the most dangerous form of government control, that of electromagnetic and microwave technologies, and inter-cranial implants. Evidence exists that low level microwaves, radio waves and electronic brain implants are being used to experiment on groups of individuals across Europe and North America."
 
"In 1987 it was reported that citizens of eastern Canada were subject to severe mood alterations believed to be caused by Russian electromagnetic transmissions. Such transmissions are also used by the US, UK, Russian and Swedish secret services (amongst others), both against dissidents and randomly chosen experimental subjects."

"Radio frequency weapons can impair the nervous system and lead to death. Microwave pulse radiation, even at low, sub-thermal levels, can lead to disorientation, degradation of intelligence, interference in blood circulation and is likely to rapidly induce cancer."

"These pulses can also cause acoustic oscillations in the brain, leading to the experience of voices in the head. It is possible to find, in most mental institutions, paranoid schizophrenics who will tell you that the government or aliens have planted transmitters in their heads - but consider this: As an experimental subject, someone with a history of mental illness is ideally suited. They are captive for the implant operation, unsure of their own faculties afterwards and easily dismissed and diagnosed as schizophrenic if they realise what is going on."

"In the UK it is claimed that sub-thermal (below guideline levels of 10,000 microwatts/2) microwaves are used to attack the women of the Greenham Common peace camp. The peace protestors were under heavy military and police surveillance since 1981, but three years later this surveillance was drastically reduced, at the same time that most of the women began to fall ill."

"Symptoms reported include severe headaches, drowsiness, faulty speech, temporary paralysis and abnormal menstrual bleeding. These are all recognised affects of exposure to low level microwaves. 100 times the background level and 10 times the normal emanations from the base transmitting system were recorded. Previous to this a new, unidentified antenna was fitted in the base."

"The strongest signals appeared only where the women were camping and seemed to be aimed at the peace camp. The American Nuclear Defense Agency and Intelligence Security Directorate considered application for use of low level microwaves as a "psychological deterrent". Potential chromosome damage, congenital birth defects and brain damage can be caused by such transmissions."

"The use of microwaves on a small group can be easily monitored, and by utilising satellite transmissions large areas of population can be affected. The covert operations establishments of all governments are racing to develop these large scale mind control technologies, whilst spreading a myth of government invincibility which creates paranoia and apathy in its citizens."

(This article was found on a webpage and quoted verbatim http://www.envt.port.ac.uk/EMMA/MWM/hartmic.htm (http://www.envt.port.ac.uk/EMMA/MWM/hartmic.htm))


Now That  SHIT is SCARY  :shock:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 23, 2010, 08:46:24 PM
My Quote and words I stated On July 18 from this thread below. I don't like it when I find out I am more Right than I knew at the time.
 (About Diana and her lineage and The Great Deception)

I have Never even heard of these theories or The Blue Beam Project or Remote Viewing or The Church of Diana or The One World Religion or the ladies Rumor Mill website until yesterday. Ok I admit it I don't always click TS links, lol because one of his links was to the ladies website (Rumor Mill) I hadn't clicked it until yesterday.

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12551 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=12551)

Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
@Hazzely,

You did a remarkable job in finding this info and discovery. One thing to remember is There is TWO sides to the coin and This Story.

Yes I agree with Royal Bloodline, only Not how it is pertrayed here in reference to British Royalty and Prince William.

Michael's bloodline I believe is in relations to The Judah Tribe. Which relates to Jesus' lineage.
The Lion of Judah represents Jesus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_of_Judah)

Revelation 5:5 (Amplified Bible)
5 Then one of the elders [of the heavenly Sanhedrin] said to me, Stop weeping! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root (Source) of David, has won (has overcome and conquered)! He can open the scroll and break its seven seals!

The devil/satan has his eye on the prize and we must NOT forget about the ANTI-Christ, Sorry if I offend people but, the lineage here and the Great deception of Prince William may come out to be the False Christ aka Anti-Christ.

On the other hand with the symbolism and the links with Michael, being in the lineage of The tribe of Judah aka in reference to Jesus, Michael's lineage and bloodline being Royal would pertain to the TRUE messiah Jesus.

When Michael makes reference to things it doesn't always mean he is saying he is connected (directly) to them but, he is saying it as a warning to us and what to look out for.

Peace
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Diana Goddess Theory and The Great Deception cont.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... read=57208 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=57208)

OUR LADY OF FATIMA - A BLUE BEAM VISION? - OR THE NWR
Posted By: Rayelan <Send E-Mail>
Date: Wednesday, 13-Oct-2004 04:33:03
OUR LADY OF FATIMA - A BLUE BEAM VISION?
OR A TEST RUN FOR THE NEW WORLD RELIGION?

In 1998, I started writing a book called, Diana, Queen of Heaven, The New World Religion. While I was writing it, I was in communication with Serge Monast, the late author of Project Bluebeam, Armadeddon, and the New World Order Religion.
Both Serge and I believed that the government had technology that could project holographic images on the night sky, or right in front of you. We both felt that the New World Order believes it's easier to control people through religion than through politics or governments. From the time of Jesus, the Roman Empire ruled the western world through the church. The reformation took that control away, and when people started to interpret the teachings of Jesus and the Bible for themselves, the masters behind the Vatican began to lose control.

To regain control, it is my belief that these dark masters are planning on plunging the world into an armageddon which will quickly return us to the dark ages. That is when the new world religion will be introduced to us in the form of "visions" and holographs appearing.

For many years I wondered if the Visions at Fatima could have been created with technology similar to Blue Beam techology, i.e. holographic. But if this was the case, was the technology from earth or from extraterrestrials?

My ex-husband, Gunther Russbacher once told me that the "secret government" is 150-200 years ahead of the rest of us. He told me that we have been able to travel to the moon and Mars since the 50s. He said there is a base on the moon, and Mars has been being "terra-formed" since then. He talked a lot about the science that Hitler has access to, and one of these technologies were things that could be adapted for use in mind control and holography.

Ever since I read the article by Jacques Vallee, the UFO researcher whose character was played by Francois Truffaut in Close Encounters, I have believed that the Fatima Visions and the Medjugore Visions were created by Blue Beam like technology. I can't help but wonder what new visions and/or cataclysms we are going to be introduced to tomorrow.

At the moment we have a few choices of what catastrophe or cataclysm will befall us.
1. We have Mt. St. Helens getting ready to blow, as well as one more volcano in Mexico.
2. We have a "secret" alert in Washington state because of some threat to the ferries that "we the people" are not being told about.
3. We have 15 Chechen terrorists who snuck across the Mexican border.
4. We have a United States Senator calling his colleagues "immoral" for not warning their staffs of some impending "attack" on WDC. If I lived in WDC and heard this Senator's interview, I would be packing up my family and leaving town. (I hope my DC readers decide to take a vacation right about now!)

I have warned about false fear based predictions that are put out by government operatives whose only purpose is to scare you into inactivity. I have also told you that the only way you can really prepare, is by preparing yourselves internally. Your relationship with yourself, your family and God are probably the most important thing you can focus on right now. You should also learn to listen to your intuition, that inner knowing that will take you out of harm's way.

There are other things that all of us should do to prepare, and owning a gun and ammunition is one of them. You can't fight the government, but you can fight the looters and other crazed people. You will also need to put away enough herbal or prescription drugs, and enough food, water and other necessities to get you through a difficult time. If you live in a city, please arrange with friends or family to have a place to go.

This country has never been more divided than it is today except for the Civil War. The plan of the Elite is to divide and conquer us. What I can't understand is how many people have jumped on this divide and conquer bandwagon and forget that all that is happening is being orchestrated by our controllers to turn us against each other so we will start killing each other. When this happens, the controllers will step in with their "private" armies to take control.

From my book, Diana, Queen of Heaven, The New World Religion:
Once the cataclysmic Earth changes, wars and diseases have completed their world wide rampage, and calm has been restored, the old World elite will emerge from their underground palaces. They will return to the World and its surviving people, in the guise of benevolent masters. They will come bringing gifts and knowledge.

Project Blue Beam
Holograms of the Goddess in the Sky
One of the gifts they will bring to the survivors of the cataclysms will be the Goddess Diana. They will do this through secret technology stored inside their underground bunkers. The secret technology will project holographic images of the Goddess into the night sky. The secret technology will also use radio and microwaves to put the voice of the Goddess into the minds of the Devotees to the Goddess Diana. The messages heard inside the heads of the devoted, will be the early versions of The Teachings of Diana, the Bible of the New World Religion.

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The World Elite will only destroy the World if it is necessary. If they decide that modern civilization does not have to be destroyed, we will see a more gradual transformation from today's religions into the One World Religion of the Goddess Diana. In fact, this is already going on in the New Age churches, as well as, some Catholic, Episcopal and Presbyterian churches. This social engineering of society is also going on through schools, television shows, films, books, and government regulations and world treaties

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No Separation of Church and State
There will be no separation of church and state in the World being created by the New World Order. There will be an illusion of separation, but the same people will control both government and religion. A ruling cabal made up of the most powerful of the World's Elite families, will sit behind the thrones and temples and direct every aspect of human life, much at the Catholic Church did during the Dark Ages.

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Chapter Four
Project Blue Beam
The last time we mentioned the Blue Beam Project, many of our readers wrote to express concern about our sanity. Some suggested that we had joined the Fruitcake Fringe. Not to worry, we have not strayed from the straight and narrow. Project Blue Beam is for real, weird as it may seem, Blue Beam is no joke, believe us!
The following is a quote from a report by a reputable intelligence group: The 'Blue Beam' project will pretend to be the universal fulfillment of the prophecies of old; as major an event as that which took place 2000 years ago (the birth of Jesus, Son of God).
In principle, 'Blue Beam' will make use of the sky as a movie screen as spaced based laser generating satellites project simultaneous images to the four corners of the planet, in every language, in every dialect according to region.

The 'Blue Beam' project deals with the religious aspect of the New World Order and is a large scale seduction.
With computer animation and sound effects appearing to come from the depths of space, astonished followers of the various creeds will witness their own returned messiah in spectacularly convincing life like realness.

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/god ... tthetarget (http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/goddess.html#notthetarget)


 :ugeek:


http://www.mackwhite.com/BlueNote1.html (http://www.mackwhite.com/BlueNote1.html)

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... i?read=251 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=251)

REMOTE VIEWING THE ANTI-CHRIST
Posted By: Philip <Send E-Mail>
Date: Sunday, 31-Oct-1999 10:13:52

Below is a conversation with remote viewer Al Moch (re: RV of the antichrist). Note that a Mabus has been interpreted in two different ways: once as an alliance of countries in the regions of Yugoslavia and second as Mahmoud Abbas - second in command of the PLO. Quatrain 2,62 implies that the death of Mabus occurs shortly before the rise of antichrist. In a letter to raye, I listed my 'projects':
'
hi raye;
Syria and Libya are implicated in The Bible Code as starters of WWWIII - will get quotes later. also, the The Bible Code, i think, names the base near Megiddo where the nukes are located. also, note the recent peace overtures of syria and libya...
...i think that what we are seeing is the staging of antichrist - in other words, the characters are coming forth - for sure, the three i have studied for the last three years have not gone away - Osama bin Laden; Bilderberg and Mahmoud Abbas - and, in the last week alone the latter three have connected..

I will try to explain this as i go. also, when criticized, i use the argument that is not what i believe that counts - it is what 'they' believe that that counts and what resouces 'they' have to, perhaps, direct Revelations prophecy for their own agenda.

...and, i am reasonably convinced that the Temple Mount is the key; as a possible obsession. we now have a lot of indicator species of antichrist's rise - Temple Mount; Mahmoud Abbas (Nostradamus' "Mabus"?); Syria (Bible Code); NATO (christians bombing christians; Feb 23); Megiddo (Bible Code); Bilderberg; Intimidation of NYC Jews (Osama); the Parliment and Resident building in East Jersusalem - all seemingly in step with your intelligence research - do you agree???
P'

conversation with Al Moch:
(1) Re:pru [Prudence Calabrese] - the staging of an antichrist - a hypothesis for RV consideration???
Philip
Thoughtfully posted by A. Edward Moch, Jul. 26,1999,16:17
"Dear Pru and Philip:
This is not a joke...
Coming soon to a Moviepex near you, "The Code" staring Michael York as "You know who"?

A movie has been done that focuses on Anti-Christ and the time period that this event is claim to suppose to happen?

The production had some financial and cast problems and a benifactor helped them out by the name of "Trinity Broadcasting"! One of the scenes is set in Jerusalem where a so-called noted Rabbi and the Jewish Community critical of the emergence of a Anti-Christ meet and discuss "The Code". In the meantime... The Anti-Christ (played by Michael York) announces himself on live TV to the world, and the reactions are predictable Hollywood Schlock. A riot happens and a number of people get shot and/or hurt (Including the Rabbi)... well you get the picture.

The emergence of Anti-Christ is nothing more than a "Control Issue" that we as the collective (human beings) giving permission towards as an excuse to happen.

Most people tend to follow more then lead, and raw collective thoughts out there can create a situation where people rally around a person for good or bad reasons. Be it a leader... or an Anti-Christ, we sometimes don't want to think (thought) for ourselves, so we create a "Savior" and/or a "Monster"... custom made in our own collective psyche!

If we were to "RV" in search for an Anti-Christ, are we doing the right thing?
Are we being Scientific... or are we getting Religious and/or Voodoo about it?
The future is in a "Variable Flux" and predicting such an event is, in my opinion, not the way to use "RV". The "Here and Now" is where "RV" is most effective. To reduce "RV" to a level of Alchemy, praying to Holy cards, and tea leaf readings is a step backwards. To "RV" God, UFO's and Aliens in my opinion is risky as well... because of the nature of the subject, and how you could "Get Hooked" and lose your ability to be "clear" as well as lose your perspective and objectivity in the matter.

"RV" is a powerful tool (or Weapon).... but it has "Two edges". As like any tool, if "RV" is used properly, it can be very benefical. If you choose to use "RV" inproperly... then it can complicate matters. To this day, most people don't know the full potential of "RV" because most of us don't know the full potential of ourselves.

"RVing" has to be taken serious if it is to do what it's design for?
Meanwhile back to the movie.
If you decide to see it, look to the left side of "The Renown Rabbi" in that scene. You will see two "Hasidic Jews" standing near him and when he gets hurt. The one to the left is me.

With Good Intentions;
Al (Rev.A.Edward Moch)
Related link: The LOGUS Group"
(2) ***Reverend Moch - RVing of 'Antichrist' May Already Be in Progress??? Re: Re:pru - the staging of an antichrist - a hypothesis for RV consideration??? -- A. Edward Moch

Thoughtfully posted by Philip , Jul 26,1999,18:37
'Reverend Moch

'A Catholic Friend of Mine Said That Sister Lucy Said That Chapter 8 and 9 of Revelations Would Become Revelant Soon...'
I understand, Reverend Moch, that i am responsible for the both hypothesis - that prophecy will be used for empowerment and agenda and the null hypothesis - that prophecy will not be used for empowerment and agenda.

Where i fall short is by real example - in other words, i do not have a confession by osama bin laden himself, for example, that his terrorism is a protest of the occupation of the Temple Mount by the Jews because he denies his role as terrorist. and he can deny his terrorism because terrorism has a different face - that of an alleged network - his "Al Qaeda" network. and so, suspected members can say that they bombed the embassies in Africa with the motive of reclaiming the Temple Mount which is actually what they said. so, you know???

I am not amongst 'them'. i have simply tried to play... as a role... as an American citizen who has some concerns and these concerns are based on the simple premise that this is the Millennium that we are passing through; that some will consider this Time as a time for them to act; that these 'acts', based on directed prophecy, may constitute a potential threat, not only to our national security but to religious freedom as well.

So, i have put forth a hypothesis (vs paranoia) for the sake of discussion as an American and 'Global' citizen (vs a conspiracy theorist). and i have done what some friends; who have read The Bible in detail; have recommended me to do - so, if they point me in the direction of Ezekiel or Revelations that this where i go - as a matter of priority and my respect for their knowledge of the Bible. finally, increased monies, for sure, are being spent on counterterrorism.

As a US Citizen, i wrote to my Congresswoman with my concern that special interests would be an issue. she passed the letter onto the Justice Department and she recieved a reply back reassuring her on how monies were to be spent. earlier this year; the cia and the fbi openly recognized the threat of the Millennist extremism. Israel has spent monies in anticipation of the year 2000 pilgramage of several religious groups to Jerusalem. here are some of my posts with some observations -

(a) - Mind Control/Revelations "Alpha" and "Omega"
asked in the Catholic Q&A Forum
'I have discovered another quote that may link Prophecy with the manifestation of Evil in what may be thought as Millennium Prophecy - in this case:

Revelation's "Alpha" and "Omega" with Mind Control.
In the past I have found Louis Farrakan quoting Revelation's with regard to the 'river' suggesting that the Islamic countries unite over 'oil'.

Also Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden picked the monthly date that one Antichrist interpreter says for AC to declare. This date is February 23 --- Saddam Hussein declared a 'Freedom from America Holiday' and Osama bin Laden issued fatwas on this monthly date in 1998 and the Ramboillette (sp error) Accords were finalized on this date in 1999

The accords of which were drafted in secret by a "Contact Group" and presented as an ultimatum to Milosevic - this led to christians bombing christian - antichristianity.
IMO - antichristianity could appear as a captured ideology; coupled with anti-American sentiment - it is not what i believe or what you believe - it what they believe; what resources they have and what recourse they will take in the recycling of prophecy through our generation; i mean Revelations is in the Bible and i, personally, had nothing to say about its creation

(b) Revelation 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty."
Revelation 21:6 He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life.
Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

Note in this excerpt from "The Greenbaum Speech" -
"Alphas appear to represent general programming, the first kind of things put in" (the Revelation's "Beginning"???) and that Omegas; 'the end': "Omega has to do with self-destruct programming. Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end." Greenbaum quotes Revelations without citing it.
http://www.europa.com/~johnlf/sat/grnbaum.txt (http://www.europa.com/~johnlf/sat/grnbaum.txt)

"Now let me give you, because we don't have a lot of time, as much practical information as I can.
The way that I would inquire as to whether or not some of this might be there would be with ideomotor finger-signals.

After you've set them up I would say, "I want the central inner core of you to take control of the finger-signals." Don't ask the unconscious mind.

The case where you're inquiring about ritual abuse, that's for the central inner core. The core is a Cult-created part. "And I want that central inner core of you to take control of this hand of these finger-signals and what it has for the yes-finger to float up.
I want to ask the inner core of you is there any part of you, any part of Mary," that's the host's name, "who knows anything about Alpha, Beta, Delta, or Theta."
 
:ugeek:
Ok that is only part of the conversation. Click link and read the rest. Thanks
Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 24, 2010, 07:06:41 AM
I have read many things about the Blue Beam project and the Aliens part always makes me wonder. Are they really capable of doing such a thing ? Will people believe it for real ? Seems so unreal to me but I know they are capable to do these things and the agenda is in march. The NASA released strange pictures on purpose http://www.google.fr/search?hl=&q=nasa+ ... 8&ie=UTF-8 (http://www.google.fr/search?hl=&q=nasa+pictures+aliens&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_frFR328FR328&ie=UTF-8) and some "important" people begin to talk about "Aliens".

The waves part is scary at first sight indeed. I don't want to hear voices in my head !  :lol:  God will protect us He says it in the Scriptures that He will protect the believers. So I believe Him and put my trust in Him. I'm not scared.
 
A lot of people have already been deceived and follow things God has never permitted or talked about. God's religion has already been altered and twisted in many points. And each time it happened a grand tribulation followed, (Noah's flood for example and all the civilizations that have been destroyed they are mentionned in the Scriptures as warnings but people don't care much about it, they don't believe that it can happen again. When you have a true faith you deeply believe that it can happen again).
God is all Powerful He can perfectly stop the NWO agenda at any time but maybe He will not do it, to let people make the decision to believe in the false new religion or to follow the right one. Maybe that this will be The Big Test !  :o

I don't know this is just hypothesis that are on my mind.

Regarding the Messiah, I personally believe that Jesus will only come back on Judgement Day and to testify against his people not to save them. I don't believe in the coming of a saviour, maybe and surely a warning messenger chosen among us (Michael maybe), but certainly not one of the last Prophets who would come back in our times. I know that God can do it, it's not the question, I just don't think it will happen. We have no mention about it in the Scriptures (that are to be read and re-read always to really understand them).

Now for me the only important thing is to keep my faith in the existence of One and Only God, The Creator of all things and to follow His Law.

God bless you and thanks for your efforts !  ;)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 24, 2010, 02:45:54 PM
I AM NOT afraid either. And I am ONLY providing INFO on this subject matter THAT must come to LIGHT.

I personally have GIVEN only a few of my opinions and beliefs during this topic here.

I reserve my opinion in full because this topic I created wasn't for me and my personal agenda or opinions, it was for bringing TRUTH to the LIGHT.

I find it very amusing though that only you (Sarahli), Mjonmind, and myself contributed to this thread.
Hopefully others have at least read this info and are taking heed and notice.

Peace to you as well and always God Bless you too.
 :ugeek:


Luke 12 (Amplified Bible)
Luke 12
 1 IN THE meanwhile, when so many thousands of the people had gathered that they were trampling on one another, Jesus commenced by saying primarily to His disciples, Be on your guard against the leaven (ferment) of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy [producing unrest and violent agitation].
   
2 Nothing is [so closely] covered up that it will not be revealed, or hidden that it will not be known.

    3 Whatever you have spoken in the darkness shall be heard and listened to in the light, and what you have whispered in [people's] ears and behind closed doors will be proclaimed upon the housetops.

    4 I tell you, My friends, do not dread and be afraid of those who kill the body and after that have nothing more that they can do.

    5 But I will warn you whom you should fear: fear Him Who, after killing, has power to hurl into hell (Gehenna); yes, I say to you, fear Him!

    6 Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? And [yet] not one of them is forgotten or uncared for in the presence of God.

    7 But [even] the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Do not be struck with fear or seized with alarm; you are of greater worth than many [flocks] of sparrows.

    8 And I tell you, Whoever declares openly [speaking out freely] and confesses that he is My worshiper and acknowledges Me before men, the Son of Man also will declare and confess and acknowledge him before the angels of God.

    9 But he who disowns and denies and rejects and refuses to acknowledge Me before men will be disowned and denied and rejected and refused acknowledgement in the presence of the angels of God.

    10 And everyone who makes a statement or speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit [that is, whoever intentionally comes short of the reverence due the Holy Spirit], it will not be forgiven him [for him there is no forgiveness].

    11 And when they bring you before the synagogues and the magistrates and the authorities, do not be anxious [beforehand] how you shall reply in defense or what you are to say.

    12 For the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour and moment what [you] ought to say.

    13 Someone from the crowd said to Him, Master, order my brother to divide the inheritance and share it with me.

    14 But He told him, Man, who has appointed Me a judge or umpire and divider over you?

    15 And He said to them, Guard yourselves and keep free from all covetousness (the immoderate desire for wealth, the greedy longing to have more); for a man's life does not consist in and is not derived from possessing overflowing abundance or that which is over and above his needs.

    16 Then He told them a parable, saying, The land of a rich man was fertile and yielded plentifully.

    17 And he considered and debated within himself, What shall I do? I have no place [in which] to gather together my harvest.

    18 And he said, I will do this: I will pull down my storehouses and build larger ones, and there I will store all my grain or produce and my goods.

    19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, you have many good things laid up, [enough] for many years. Take your ease; eat, drink, and enjoy yourself merrily.

    20 But God said to him, You fool! This very night  they [the messengers of God] will demand your soul of you; and all the things that you have prepared, whose will they be?

    21 So it is with the one who continues to lay up and hoard possessions for himself and is not rich [in his relation] to God [this is how he fares].

    22 And [Jesus] said to His disciples, Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious and troubled [with cares] about your life, as to what you will [have to] eat; or about your body, as to what you will [have to] wear.

    23 For life is more than food, and the body [more] than clothes.

    24 Observe and consider the ravens; for they neither sow nor reap, they have neither storehouse nor barn; and [yet] God feeds them. Of how much more worth are you than the birds!

    25 And which of you by being overly anxious and troubled with cares can add a cubit to his stature or a moment [unit] of time to his age [the length of his life]?

    26 If then you are not able to do such a little thing as that, why are you anxious and troubled with cares about the rest?

    27 Consider the lilies, how they grow. They neither [wearily] toil nor spin nor ]weave; yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory (his splendor and magnificence) was not arrayed like one of these. [I Kings 10:4-7.]

    28 But if God so clothes the grass in the field, which is alive today, and tomorrow is thrown into the furnace, how much more will He clothe you, O you [people] of little faith?

    29 And you, do not seek [by meditating and reasoning to inquire into] what you are to eat and what you are to drink; nor be of anxious (troubled) mind unsettled, excited, worried, and in suspense];

    30 For all the pagan world is [greedily] seeking these things, and your Father knows that you need them.

    31 Only aim at and strive for and seek His kingdom, and all these things shall be supplied to you also.

    32 Do not be seized with alarm and struck with fear, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom!

    33 Sell what you possess and give donations to the poor; provide yourselves with purses and handbags that do not grow old, an unfailing and inexhaustible treasure in the heavens, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys.

    34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

    35 Keep your loins girded and your lamps burning,

    36 And be like men who are waiting for their master to return home from the marriage feast, so that when he returns from the wedding and comes and knocks, they may open to him immediately.

    37 Blessed (happy, fortunate, and to be envied) are those servants whom the master finds awake and alert and watching when he comes. Truly I say to you, he will gird himself and have them recline at table and will come and serve them!

    38 If he comes in the second watch (before midnight) or the third watch (after midnight), and finds them so, blessed (happy, fortunate, and to be envied) are those servants!

    39 But of this be assured: if the householder had known at what time the burglar was coming, he would have been awake and alert and watching and would not have permitted his house to be dug through and broken into.

    40 You also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour and a moment when you do not anticipate it.

    41 Peter said, Lord, are You telling this parable for us, or for all alike?

    42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful steward, the wise man whom his master will set over those in his household service to supply them their allowance of food at the appointed time?

    43 Blessed (happy and to be envied) is that servant whom his master finds so doing when he arrives.

    44 Truly I tell you, he will set him in charge over all his possessions.

    45 But if that servant says in his heart, My master is late in coming, and begins to strike the menservants and the maids and to eat and drink and get drunk,

    46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour of which he does not know, and will punish him and cut him off and assign his lot with the unfaithful.

    47 And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act as he would wish him to act shall be beaten with many [lashes].

    48 But he who did not know and did things worthy of a beating shall be beaten with few [lashes]. For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required; and of him to whom men entrust much, they will require and demand all the more.

    49 I have come to cast fire upon the earth, and how I wish that it were already kindled!

    50 I have a baptism with which to be baptized, and how greatly and sorely I am urged on (impelled, constrained) until it is accomplished!

    51 Do you suppose that I have come to give peace upon earth? No, I say to you, but rather division;

    52 For from now on in one house there will be five divided [among themselves], three against two and two against three.

    53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.

    54 He also said to the crowds of people, When you see a cloud rising in the west, at once you say, It is going to rain! And so it does.

    55 And when [you see that] a south wind is blowing, you say, There will be severe heat! And it occurs.

    56 You playactors (hypocrites)! You know how [intelligently] to discern and interpret and prove the looks of the earth and sky; but how is it that you do not know how to discern and interpret and apply the proof to this present time?

    57 And why do you not judge what is just and personally decide what is right?

    58 Then as you go with your accuser before a magistrate, on the way make a diligent effort to settle and be quit (free) of him, lest he drag you to the judge, and the judge turn you over to the officer, and the officer put you in prison.

    59 I tell you, you will never get out until you have paid the very last [fraction of a] cent.

 :ugeek:

P.S. lol...I hear voices already in my head, "My own commentary" running during this "hoax".. I talk out loud and say to myself ALL the time "wtf is happening here?"..and then myself answers "I dunno, but it's gonna be AIGHT!" lol
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 24, 2010, 03:14:33 PM
I know that you are not afraid just wanted to say that I was not too. You've created this topic, if you prefer that I don't give my personal opinion I'll try to stick to the subject next time, God willing.

God bless you.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 24, 2010, 03:30:15 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
I know that you are not afraid just wanted to say that I was not too. You've created this topic, if you prefer that I don't give my personal opinion I'll try to stick to the subject next time, God willing.

God bless you.


Nope, Oh boy NOT us being divided NOW, lol

I meant that (me only).. I personally wasn't giving my FULL opinion or beliefs..
You can give every opinion or belief you want, please do cont. I actually think it is good to have a different view so I can weigh ALL options.

I am sorry if what I said was taken the wrong way.

I was only saying that because sometimes when a topic gets started and then certain info gets put down, people wonder if The OP has a hidden agenda..

Please don't feel like you can't express your opinion here on this subject or give more info into what you may know.

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 24, 2010, 03:46:15 PM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
I know that you are not afraid just wanted to say that I was not too. You've created this topic, if you prefer that I don't give my personal opinion I'll try to stick to the subject next time, God willing.

God bless you.


Nope, Oh boy NOT us being divided NOW, lol

I meant that (me only).. I personally wasn't giving my FULL opinion or beliefs..
You can give every opinion or belief you want, please do cont. I actually think it is good to have a different view so I can weigh ALL options.

I am sorry if what I said was taken the wrong way.

I was only saying that because sometimes when a topic gets started and then certain info gets put down, people wonder if The OP has a hidden agenda..

Please don't feel like you can't express your opinion here on this subject or give more info into what you may know.

Peace


Sorry I got it wrong  :oops:  I thought you wanted this to be more "information providing only". I don't feel like you're having a hidden agenda  :lol:  I understand better now ! Sorry again for the misunderstanding and yes I hope people are reading even if they don't post.

United always. This is too important. Peace to you.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 24, 2010, 04:04:29 PM
"Raiders of the Lost Ark"

Plot

In 1936, treasure hunter/archaeologist Indiana Jones braves an ancient temple in the Peruvian jungle filled with booby traps to retrieve a Golden Idol. Upon escaping the temple, Indiana is confronted by rival archaeologist René Belloq and the indigenous Hovitos people. Surrounded and outnumbered, Indiana is forced to surrender the idol to Belloq, and flees from a jungle chase aboard a waiting seaplane.

Shortly after returning to the college in the United States where he teaches archeology, Indiana is interviewed by two Army intelligence agents. They inform him that the Nazis, in their quest for occult power, are searching for his old mentor, Abner Ravenwood, who is in possession of the headpiece of an artifact called the Staff of Ra and is the leading expert on the ancient Egyptian city of Tanis. Indiana deduces that the Nazis are searching for the Ark of the Covenant, the biblical chest built by the Israelites to contain the fragments of the Ten Commandments. The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried. The agents subsequently authorize Indiana to recover the Ark with the promise of displaying it in a museum. Indiana travels to a tavern in Nepal, only to find that Ravenwood has died and that the headpiece is in the possession of his daughter and Indiana's embittered former lover, Marion. The tavern is suddenly raided by a group of thugs commanded by Nazi agent Major Toht. The tavern is burned down in the ensuing fight, during which Toht burns his hand on the searing hot headpiece as he tries to grab it. Indiana and Marion escape with the headpiece, with Marion declaring she will accompany Indiana in his search for the Ark so he can repay his debt.

They travel to Cairo where they learn from Sallah, Indiana's friend and a skilled digger, that the Nazis are currently digging for the Well of Souls with the aid of Belloq and a replica of the headpiece modeled after the scar on Toht's hand. In a bazaar, Nazi operatives kidnap Marion and fake her death in front of Indiana, strengthening his resolve to find the Ark. While deciphering the markings on the headpiece, Indiana and Sallah realize that the Nazis have miscalculated the location of the Well of Souls. Using this to their advantage, they infiltrate the Nazi dig and use the Staff of Ra to correctly determine the location and uncover the Well of Souls, which is filled with venomous snakes. After Indiana obtains the Ark, Belloq and the Nazis arrive to take it for themselves. They proceed to toss Marion, who is alive, down into the well with Indiana and seal them both in. However, they manage to navigate the underground temple and escape. After a grueling fist fight with a German mechanic, blowing up a flying wing ready to ship the Ark to Germany, and chasing down a convoy of trucks, Indiana manages to take back the Ark before it can be shipped to Berlin.

Indiana and Marion leave Cairo to escort the Ark to England on board a tramp steamer. The next morning, their boat is boarded by the Nazis who once again steal the Ark and kidnap Marion. Indiana stows away on the U-boat and follows them to an isolated island where Belloq plans to test the power of the Ark before presenting it to Adolf Hitler. Indiana reveals himself and threatens to destroy the Ark with a rocket launcher, but Belloq calls his bluff.

Indiana surrenders and is tied to a post with Marion as Belloq performs a ceremonial opening of the Ark, which appears to contain nothing but sand. Suddenly, spirits emerge from the Ark; aware of the supernatural danger of looking at the opened Ark, Indiana warns Marion to close her eyes. The apparitions suddenly morph into demonic creatures, and lightning bolts begin flying out of the ark, gruesomely killing the Nazis. The fires rise into the sky, then fall back down to Earth and the Ark closes with a crack of thunder.

Back in Washington, D.C.
, the Army intelligence agents tell a suspicious Indiana that the Ark "is someplace safe" to be studied by "top men". In reality, the Ark is sealed in a wooden crate labeled "top secret" and stored in a giant government warehouse filled with countless similar crates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark)

So in the movie the Ark is in Washington DC. It's just a movie I know  8-)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 24, 2010, 04:15:54 PM
Well of Souls
...
The Well of Souls is sometimes considered the hiding place of the Ark of the Covenant in legends stating that the Ark was hidden beneath the Temple Mount, but removed when Solomon's temple was destroyed by the neo-Babylonians.In this context it appeared in Raiders of the Lost Ark, although relocated to Tanis, Egypt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well_of_Souls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well_of_Souls)

Government warehouse (fiction)
The Government Warehouse is a plot device used in movies, television series, and novels, a scenario used in role-playing games, and a belief of some conspiracy theorists. The concept is that there is a secret government warehouse where various items are stored of whose existence the government  wants the general populace to remain ignorant.

Real-world government warehouses
See also: Government warehouse (non-fiction)

The government warehouses of fiction and conspiracy theories have a number of analogues in the real world, although some are not run by official national governments. Historically, the template is the Great Library of Alexandria, which held an extensive collection of written works but was repeatedly destroyed during the first millennium AD. The Vatican Secret Archives are alleged to hold many secrets, such as unpublished records of the Knights Templar. The Vatican's archives are a main plot element in Dan Brown's novel Angels & Demons. Many prominent museums have extensive archives which often lay undisturbed for decades, such as the Egyptian Museum in Cairo, which was found in 2002 to have 80,000 items—more than half the museum's collection—stored away in its vaults.

In the United States, the National Archives and Records Administration and the Library of Congress both have numerous government warehouses to store historic items and documents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government ... fiction%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_warehouse_%28fiction%29)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 24, 2010, 06:01:56 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
"Raiders of the Lost Ark"

Plot

In 1936, treasure hunter/archaeologist Indiana Jones braves an ancient temple in the Peruvian jungle filled with booby traps to retrieve a Golden Idol. Upon escaping the temple, Indiana is confronted by rival archaeologist René Belloq and the indigenous Hovitos people. Surrounded and outnumbered, Indiana is forced to surrender the idol to Belloq, and flees from a jungle chase aboard a waiting seaplane.

Shortly after returning to the college in the United States where he teaches archeology, Indiana is interviewed by two Army intelligence agents. They inform him that the Nazis, in their quest for occult power, are searching for his old mentor, Abner Ravenwood, who is in possession of the headpiece of an artifact called the Staff of Ra and is the leading expert on the ancient Egyptian city of Tanis. Indiana deduces that the Nazis are searching for the Ark of the Covenant, the biblical chest built by the Israelites to contain the fragments of the Ten Commandments. The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried. The agents subsequently authorize Indiana to recover the Ark with the promise of displaying it in a museum. Indiana travels to a tavern in Nepal, only to find that Ravenwood has died and that the headpiece is in the possession of his daughter and Indiana's embittered former lover, Marion. The tavern is suddenly raided by a group of thugs commanded by Nazi agent Major Toht. The tavern is burned down in the ensuing fight, during which Toht burns his hand on the searing hot headpiece as he tries to grab it. Indiana and Marion escape with the headpiece, with Marion declaring she will accompany Indiana in his search for the Ark so he can repay his debt.

They travel to Cairo where they learn from Sallah, Indiana's friend and a skilled digger, that the Nazis are currently digging for the Well of Souls with the aid of Belloq and a replica of the headpiece modeled after the scar on Toht's hand. In a bazaar, Nazi operatives kidnap Marion and fake her death in front of Indiana, strengthening his resolve to find the Ark. While deciphering the markings on the headpiece, Indiana and Sallah realize that the Nazis have miscalculated the location of the Well of Souls. Using this to their advantage, they infiltrate the Nazi dig and use the Staff of Ra to correctly determine the location and uncover the Well of Souls, which is filled with venomous snakes. After Indiana obtains the Ark, Belloq and the Nazis arrive to take it for themselves. They proceed to toss Marion, who is alive, down into the well with Indiana and seal them both in. However, they manage to navigate the underground temple and escape. After a grueling fist fight with a German mechanic, blowing up a flying wing ready to ship the Ark to Germany, and chasing down a convoy of trucks, Indiana manages to take back the Ark before it can be shipped to Berlin.

Indiana and Marion leave Cairo to escort the Ark to England on board a tramp steamer. The next morning, their boat is boarded by the Nazis who once again steal the Ark and kidnap Marion. Indiana stows away on the U-boat and follows them to an isolated island where Belloq plans to test the power of the Ark before presenting it to Adolf Hitler. Indiana reveals himself and threatens to destroy the Ark with a rocket launcher, but Belloq calls his bluff.

Indiana surrenders and is tied to a post with Marion as Belloq performs a ceremonial opening of the Ark, which appears to contain nothing but sand. Suddenly, spirits emerge from the Ark; aware of the supernatural danger of looking at the opened Ark, Indiana warns Marion to close her eyes. The apparitions suddenly morph into demonic creatures, and lightning bolts begin flying out of the ark, gruesomely killing the Nazis. The fires rise into the sky, then fall back down to Earth and the Ark closes with a crack of thunder.

Back in Washington, D.C.
, the Army intelligence agents tell a suspicious Indiana that the Ark "is someplace safe" to be studied by "top men". In reality, the Ark is sealed in a wooden crate labeled "top secret" and stored in a giant government warehouse filled with countless similar crates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark)

So in the movie the Ark is in Washington DC. It's just a movie I know  8-)



Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 24, 2010, 06:11:45 PM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"



Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.
[/b][/color]

Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra !  :lol:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: TheRunningGirl on July 26, 2010, 06:51:28 AM
You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.

Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"



Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.
[/b][/color]

Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra !  :lol:

According to Theraider.net (http://www.theraider.net/features/articles/demille.php Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

(A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

This is simply amazing!

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: TheRunningGirl on July 26, 2010, 07:11:14 AM
... And the other association I forgot to mention in my previous post is between Steven Spielberg and the Liberian Girl video with Steven Spielberg acting as the video director whilst Mike was actually directing it.... It is so good! :D

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 26, 2010, 07:16:14 AM
Good observations TheRunningGirl ! I thought about that too that maybe the Ark is not about the Ark itself but rather about the symbolisms around. Now as stated before the Pandora's box has been opened and all possibilites have to be considered. When I read the Scriptures I understand that there was really an Ark with the tables of the 10 Commandements inside, it must be somewhere no ?
Thank you and God bless you.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 26, 2010, 06:09:31 PM
Quote from: "TheRunningGirl"
You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.

Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"



Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.
[/b][/color]

Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra !  :lol:

According to Theraider.net (http://www.theraider.net/features/articles/demille.php Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

(A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

This is simply amazing!

With L.O.V.E


Thanks for contributing...

I am quoting THE MOST IMPORTANT PART from the info you provided.

DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era.
 
:ugeek:  He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the "Bible", liberally peppered with sex. :ugeek:"

 Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films.  

:ugeek: One such work was "The Ten Commandments", made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956. :ugeek:

This IS in my opinion THE OBJECTIVE.
When basing where we are looking for info in relation to The ARK of The Convenant.
Peace

Just Curious...Have you read any of what we wrote earlier in the thread?
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: TheRunningGirl on July 26, 2010, 07:36:32 PM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
Quote from: "TheRunningGirl"
You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.

Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"



Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.
[/b][/color]

Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra !  :lol:

According to Theraider.net (http://www.theraider.net/features/articles/demille.php Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

(A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

This is simply amazing!

With L.O.V.E


Thanks for contributing...

I am quoting THE MOST IMPORTANT PART from the info you provided.

DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era.
 
:ugeek:  He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the "Bible", liberally peppered with sex. :ugeek:"

 Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films.  

:ugeek: One such work was "The Ten Commandments", made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956. :ugeek:

This IS in my opinion THE OBJECTIVE.
When basing where we are looking for info in relation to The ARK of The Convenant.
Peace

Just Curious...Have you read any of what we wrote earlier in the thread?

Hello! Im_convincedmjalive,  My pleasure.

Yes! I have read all the good infos on this thread and I was very impressed by the ideas and depth of the thinking. Loved it but did not feel that I had any inspirational thoughts to contribute at the time. The Ark of the Covenant is a very rich and absorbing topic, and one that needs an open mind! (I absolutely agree with you Sarahli)

My morning thoughts (Those that follows my double espresso!) got me to look at it a bit differently, through associations;  Michael got associated with the Ark of the Covenant in the the television show South Park in a 2004 episode - Season 8 Episode 7 - titled "The Jeffersons"  and I thought that the entertainment angle was a worthwhile one to explore:
The raiders of the lost ark to Steven Spielberg to the Liberian Girl and to C DeMille.  C DeMille to the Greatest Show on Earth (PT Barnum) and the 10 Commandments.

I am sure we are getting closer - If the 25th June 2009 announcement was not a coincidence, was it then real?  ;)

Quote
R47. Ark of the Covenant
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant}

The Ark of the Covenant? What in the world does that have to do with MJ? Is there some connection with the Raiders of the Lost Ark? Perhaps. But those who read the Wiki article carefully noticed a very interesting date: “On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant …” {http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/9322/ark-of-the-covenant-revealed/; http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/ ... fter-all/; (http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/10197;%20http://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/ethiopian-ark-of-the-covenant-not-to-be-revealed-after-all/;) and http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149823 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=149823)}

The unveiling did not actually occur. But why the amazing date of 6-25-09, was this yet another strange coincidence? This of course was the exact same day that the MJ “death” was


With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 26, 2010, 07:37:29 PM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"

 :ugeek:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/RUSSBACHER_DOCS.htm (http://www.rumormillnews.com/RUSSBACHER_DOCS.htm)
Gunther Russbacher was a CIA operative.

This is about The Contra Affairs and President Bush always denying involvement.
The Bush Family has been screwing The USA for along TIME.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair)
The Contra Affairs with Oliver North.

A Man By The Name of  http://twitter.com/FreewayRicky (http://twitter.com/FreewayRicky)
Was SET UP back THEN during THE CONTRA Affairs and spent 20 years in Prison because of LA Corruption, The Reagan administration, and Oliver North.

Truth being exposed.

[youtube:9s5ejs5i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX_-xMqg-6E[/youtube:9s5ejs5i]

[youtube:9s5ejs5i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYgwIBXMNho&feature=related[/youtube:9s5ejs5i]

[youtube:9s5ejs5i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxUQJbsdX0E&feature=related[/youtube:9s5ejs5i]


 :ugeek:


This whole TIAI revealed Part 7 is ALL about Conspiracies and HOW Corrupt The USA Government is. Above is Proof Positive that it has been going on Far Longer Than just MJ.

Quote from: "TS"
TIAI Revealed, Part 7: NWO Powers Control the Mass Media  (R29 - R42)

This whole part 7 deals with the secret societies; and especially their agenda to create a one-world religion and one-world government system, called the New World Order (NWO).  There are many such societies, including: Illuminati, Skull & Bones, Masons, and many more; they are bricks in the pyramid (shown on the back of the U.S. one dollar bill).  Instead of trying to identify individual secret societies, the general term “NWO powers” will be used.

Michael is well aware of these NWO powers, their corruption, their tremendous power, and their conspiracies (see R29).  And he knows that these powers control the mass media; which means that if you do a hoax to expose the mass media corruption, you are inherently going to come under the wrath of the powers that control the media—you can’t do one, without having the other.  So he has to be very careful with when and how he returns to the public eye.

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R29. MJ on Police Brutality
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO7wOwdTwB8}

The redirect for this day was another YouTube video; it was a segment on police brutality, from the 60 minutes interview in December of 2003.  It is of course very sad the way that MJ was treated; but the truly heroic part, was his humble and mild response—you have to watch it, if you haven’t already.

Later in this same interview (part 3), Michael said: “I don’t want to say too much … there’s a conspiracy, yeah; I don’t want to say too much.  I’m done.” {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK9jyZaCgVc, at 8:20}  You see, he didn’t want to say much, because he knew the danger involved in exposing the NWO powers.  And no, he was not talking about some small-town conspiracy; he was talking “media” conspiracy, and “manipulating history books”, etc.  Watch the following YouTube video; it has good information, even though they mistakenly think that he was murdered {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbK41pGa3IA}.

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R30. The Illuminati Theory – Not Involving Murder
{http://mjconspiracy.50.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1174&sid=a4ef6b06643d9e5fbd731f40beadadd0}

Here was a thread from the MJ-conspiracy.com hoax forum; this thread was chosen because of the title, and also some of the posts in the thread.  I will quote from some of Lacey5842’s post; it is very well stated!

“All the while this is happening [the hoax] people are waking up, not necessarily to him being alive, but to what is happening in the world that effects them and they aren’t happy. They’ve started to look for answers on how we, humanity, can stop this evil minority from continuing with their plans. So, essentially, people are becoming united all over the world for example that’s how you and I are now connected.  All the while this is happening Michael is safely hidden away, watching what is happening from a distance.  I believe that once Michael can see that enough people are united and have enough knowledge of all that is happening he will then feel safe enough to reveal that he is still alive and confirm his message. In effect all those that didn't believe he was still alive will then see that, in fact, he is but they will also have all the knowledge of the things happening around them. Michael will then have his army, ‘Soldiers of Love’ and not one of his billions of soldiers are going to allow anything to happen to him because if anything did happen to him the Elite would know that there would be war and our army is far bigger then [than] theirs but is also worldwide. They will know they don’t stand a chance so in effect they won’t even try.  It is my belief that when Michael does return there will be a war but it will be a non violent, peaceful war. A war based on numbers, unity, wits and L.O.V.E.

This thread was also used, because of the title: The Illuminati Theory – Not Involving Murder!  Since the next half-a-dozen redirects would deal with murders, this title was used to show that MJ himself was not murdered.  In spite of this, and many other TIAI redirects pointing to a hoax and not a murder, some still thought that TIAI was trying to say that MJ was murdered.

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R31. George Magazine, Inaugural Issue
{http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a8/George_%28magazine%29.jpg}

This clue was the cover of the first issue of JFK Junior’s magazine, George.  This redirect was chosen for multiple reasons, most of which can be seen on the cover picture—including these statements: “the next american revolution”; and “not just politics as usual”.

George earned infamy in the conspiracy cyberculture, when an article slated to run in the October 1998 ‘Conspiracy Issue’ on the top conspiracy writers was killed at the last minute by George editors. Titled ‘Princes of Paranoia,’ it would have highlighted writers and websites that were popular in the field of conspiracy theory and given their work exposure to a wider audience.”  {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_(magazine)}  Less than a year later, on July 16, 1999, JFK Jr. was permanently silenced; after that, there would be no more danger of him exposing any conspiracies.

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R32. George?  (Google Images, Page 10)
{http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=George%3F&sa=N&start=170&ndsp=21}

The primary reason for the George magazine clue above, however, was the title itself: George.  Regarding the assassination of JFK Senior: “… polls conducted from 1966 on show as many as 80% of the American public hold beliefs contrary to these findings [the government conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald was the ‘lone gunman’].” {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_assassination}

Close friends of JFK Jr. said, and common sense should also tell you, that his single biggest goal in life was: to discover the conspiracy behind his father’s murder, and bring it to public knowledge.  He of all people in the world had the motivation, and also the connections, to get the “inside” information.

Yet he also knew that it wouldn’t be easy to get this information out, without making himself a target.  So he decided to put the first name, of the person who orchestrated his father’s murder, into the title of his magazine.  And he also had Cindy Crawford dressed as George Washington, to show the connection with the US Presidency (this would also serve to distract those who were not in tune with the real reason for the name “George”).

If you look at a list of US Presidents from the beginning until 1995 (when the magazine came out), you will find only two Presidents with the name “George”: George Washington, and George H. W. Bush (Senior) {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Us_presidents}.  Obviously, George Washington did not orchestrate the assassination of JFK Sr.  So it was George Bush Senior that murdered JFK Senior (and later George Bush Junior murdered JFK Junior).

These corrupt NWO leaders really don’t care if you believe in conspiracies, etc—just as long as the culprits remain in the realm of unidentified mysteries.  But they definitely don’t want to be identified by name and face; especially not the well-known ones, like the Bush family.

The Google images page, at the time of this redirect (now the images are arranged differently), had pictures of all three “George” US Presidents: Washington, Bush Sr., and Bush Jr.  Many noticed Bush Jr. to the right of Washington; but if you look close, the picture above Washington is Bush Senior {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=475, look at the second post by Serenity’s_Dream on that page}.

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R33. Murder of JFK Jr.
{http://revver.com/video/14470/murder-of-jfk-jr/}

This redirect was to the trailer for a video on the murder of JFK Jr.  This murder of JFK was chosen, partly because it is a classic example of how much power these NWO leaders have over the media.  If you watch the whole video, or even the trailer, you will see that the first news reports said that John had made a radio call just before the crash.  Then when the Pentagon took over, this fact was silenced in all of the mainstream media channels.

There is one major piece of evidence, though, that did not get filtered out; it can still be found in the official NTSB report, on their official website {http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20001212X19354&ntsbno=NYC99MA178&akey=1}: “The fuel selector valve was recovered … and the valve was found in the OFF position.”  Yet the NTSB went along with the media story about the cause of the crash {http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X19354}: “The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows: The pilot’s failure to maintain control of the airplane during a descent over water at night, which was a result of spatial disorientation.”

Any experienced pilot should see a glaring problem with the NTSB’s own report.  If John lost control of the airplane from spatial disorientation (confusion): why was the fuel valve turned off?  If you are disoriented and out of control, the only thing you are worried about is getting the plane level again; and turning off the fuel isn’t going to help level the plane in the least bit—that would be a total waste of time, when every second counts!  And you can’t just accidentally bump it into the off position; no, it takes deliberate effort (so that you don’t accidentally shut the fuel off while flying, and lose your engine).

Also, shutting the fuel valve won’t keep you alive if the plane nosedives into the water or ground; you will most likely die from the impact.  Furthermore, shutting the valve won’t keep the plane from catching on fire or exploding upon impact.  Think about it.  What about the planes that hit the trade towers: do you suppose if they had shut the fuel valves off just before impact, then there would’ve been no explosion??  Nonsense!

Then why was the fuel valve shut off in JFK Junior’s plane?  Most likely, as stated in the video, there was a Manchurian candidate flight instructor on board.  He was probably programmed to shut the fuel valve off, while John was making his radio call to the landing airport; John would be distracted at that moment, and might not notice the instructor turning the fuel valve off.

A few seconds later, the engine would quit from lack of fuel; then the instructor would push the plane into a nosedive.  John would then have to physically fight the instructor to get the control back; and even if he succeeded at that (which would be very difficult), he would then have to deal with a dead engine.  While trying to restart the engine, the instructor could nosedive the plane again; and so on.

The NTSB official website reports that the same basic thing happened on Egypt Air 990; and this was in the same general area, only about 100 days later.  The “FDR [flight data recorder] recorded an abrupt nose-down elevator movement … the engines were shut off. … the captain, surprised to realize that the engines had been shut off, was trying to tell the relief first officer to leave the engines alone.” {http://www.ntsb.gov/Publictn/2002/aab0201.htm}

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R34. MJalive999 YouTube Video, Part 2
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1X7xZ41od0&NR=1}

Another YouTube video; this time, though, it is a video specifically about the TIAI redirects.  It is actually part 2 in a series—all of which are good; but part 2 was the redirect, because it had the information dealing with the Kennedys.  Not only was the information good on that video; but MJalive999 had figured out the connection with the George magazine title, and JFK Junior naming his father’s murderer with the magazine title.

I also wonder if MJalive999 picked that username, because of the 9-9-09 date in relation to “This Is It”.  Another account on YouTube, called PianoGames, also did a video (part 16) on the TIAI redirects {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ46Vjti1kU}.

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R35. Google Search on Various Conspiracy Murders
{http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1W1SUNA_en&tbo=0&q=conspiracy+%22pearl+harbor%22+jfk+rfk+mlk+%22princess+di%22+911+titanic+...&aq=f&oq=&aqi}

After going through several redirects related to JFK (Jr. & Sr.), this redirect was for the purpose of showing that there are many more such cases.  No particular web page was intended in this redirect; instead, the Google search was merely to show that there is a lot of information on the internet that you can research.  Some got a virus from clicking on one of the search hit pages; sorry, this was not intentional.  Before doing any internet searching, you should have good antivirus software; because any web page can potentially contain a virus.

The list on the Google search was Pearl Harbor, JFK, RFK, MLK, Princess Di, 911, and the Titanic; Pearl Harbor was listed first, because that redirect was on December 7 (Pearl Harbor Day, 68th anniversary).  Some said that other cases should’ve been included.  However, there wasn’t much more room in the search box; if you looked close, though, there were three dots at the end (…) to indicate more—yes, there are many more cases.  And all of the cases listed have common elements: conspiracy by corrupt powers in the government to murder their own people, and for the purpose of establishing the NWO.

Also, about half of the listed cases have close connection with MJ: he knew Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonwalk_(book)}; here is a YouTube video with MJ and Lady Diana {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0aG8SXa-j8}; and MLK III spoke at MJ’s memorial {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPOCwa4YnMQ}.

The last one given in the search list was the Titanic; and although the sinking is very well known, the conspiracy behind it is rarely heard of—even among those who recognize a lot of the conspiracies.  The NWO powers were trying to set up the Federal Reserve, for controlling money and funding their agenda; but some very wealthy and influential people knew that this would be bad, and were against it.  So what did the NWO powers do about it?  They sunk a whole ship, and murdered 1,517 people—just to get rid of the opposition.

“On the maiden voyage of the Titanic some of the most prominent people of the day were travelling in first–class. Some of these included millionaire John Jacob Astor IV {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Jacob_Astor_IV} and his wife Madeleine Force Astor [one of the wealthiest families in the United States], industrialist Benjamin Guggenheim {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Guggenheim}, Macy’s owner Isidor Straus {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isidor_Straus} and his wife Ida …” {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic}

The ship sunk in 1912, and the three wealthy men listed above all died in the disaster; then the Federal Reserve was set up in 1913. {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_reserve}  This explains why the iceberg warnings were ignored, and it also explains the numerous other strange mysteries surrounding this major disaster.

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R36. Aphrodite Jones and Thomas Mesereau (MJ Conspiracy)
{http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIwehjDPOYU}

This YouTube video was the redirect for 12-8-09.  Before going into the subject of the video, let me point out that this day was in the middle of part 7 on NWO conspiracies (R29 – R42); and the biggest of all, is the 911 conspiracy.  And in fact, just one day before (on 12-7-09), the TIAI redirect had a list of conspiracies—including “911”, etc (see R35).

Well, on 12-8-09 TMZ had—not one or two, but six different articles with “911” in the article heading {http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/tiger-woods-mother-in-law-the-911-call/; [url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/latest-hasselhoff-911-tape/; [url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/tiger-woods-mother-in-laws-911-elin-nordegren-barbro-holmberg/; [url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/tiger-woods-911-call-dispatch-log/; [url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/rescue-call-to-tiger-woods-block-911-elin-nordegren/; and [url]http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/08/brittany-murphy-husband-911-call/%7d}!  This timing should make it obvious that TIAI was not copying TMZ.  Was it yet another coincidence?  Well, how often does TMZ have even one article with “911” in the heading?  Check it out for yourself.

Now back to the “MJ Conspiracy” book and video.  Quite obviously, there was a conspiracy against MJ, even though it wasn’t a murder conspiracy.  And the testimony from Aphrodite shows that people involved in a conspiracy may not even know it themselves (only the upper levels understand).  And even after she recognized the conspiracy, it seems that she only saw media and money as the source of the conspiracy—not the NWO powers controlling the media.

The conspiracy did succeed to the extent of damaging MJ’s reputation; but it did not succeed to the extent of the court finding him guilty.  At the end of the video clip, Aphrodite asked a very appropriate question: “Why are we still crucifying this man?  He was found not guilty.”

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R37. Daniel and the Lion’s Den
{ http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%206:22&version=NLT }

“My God sent his angel to shut the lions’ mouths so that they would not hurt me, for I have been found innocent in his sight. And I have not wronged you, Your Majesty.” (Daniel 6:22, NLT).

As always, the context of the verse is important.  In this case, it is the very well known story of Daniel and the lion’s den.  High officials in the kingdom hated Daniel, and conspired to get rid of him; but God overruled, saved Daniel’s life, and vindicated his character.  I’m sure that you can see the parallel here, with the conspiracy against MJ.  God thwarted the plans of MJ’s enemies, and he was found not guilty on all charges.

Now let’s stop and think here for a minute.  These NWO leaders are capable of sinking a whole ship, and killing over 1,500 people on it, just to get rid of a few people.  They brought down the trade towers, which killed masses of people; they killed the US President (JFK), as well as his son—and the list goes on.

Then don’t you think they are capable of taking MJ out?  So why didn’t they succeed in killing MJ before 2009?  In fact, why didn’t they succeed in the child molestation charges?  There is a very simple answer: as with Daniel, God shut the mouths of the lions, and thwarted the conspiracies of the government officials.

Why did God protect MJ, and not JFK, MLK, etc?  Perhaps only God understands that fully; but it could well be that God has a special plan for MJ, in the final battle against the NWO.  Maybe God has a mission for MJ, and has protected him from his enemies “for such a time as this” (Esther 4:14).

Then if God can protect MJ in 1993, and in 2005, and clear up to 6-25-09: then don’t you think that God can still protect him after 6-25-09?  In fact, don’t you think that God could protect his life ON 6-25-09???  Then why do we keep being faithless, and thinking that he really died?

If God wants to keep MJ alive, or you, or anyone else: not all the weapons in the whole world can kill.  Just like Daniel in the lion’s den: “My God sent his angel to shut the lions’ mouths so that they would not hurt me …”

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R38. “People Should Not Be Afraid of Their Governments. …”
{ http://rlv.zcache.com/people_should_not_be_afraid_of_their_government_bumper_sticker-p128385723565042693trl0_400.jpg }

The full quote says: “People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”  As most already know, this is a quote from the “V for Vendetta” film.  This clue was quite obvious, and didn’t need any deep investigation.  Yet this had more than one reason, as usual.

Especially after the section on the Kennedys, people were saying that TIAI was trying to create fear in order to control people.  It is sad that people try to find an evil motive in everything; yet with the condition of society, there is a great deal of evil out there—so it is understandable.  So this redirect was given to help people see that TIAI was not trying to create fear in the people; if anything, it is intended to create fear in the corrupt leaders committing these crimes.

Another reason for this redirect, was that it was a picture of a bumper sticker.  If anyone found the source of the picture, they also found where to buy the bumper stickers { http://www.zazzle.com/people_should_not_be_afraid_of_their_government_bumper_sticker-128385723565042693 }.  Put them on your car, and help spread the message (I have no affiliation with Zazzle, and I don’t make a single penny from these sales; I just want to promote the message).

The Bible says: “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear … He that feareth is not made perfect in love.” (1 John 4:18; see Revelation 2:10).  So don’t be afraid to join Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E. (see R39, next).

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R39. Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.
{ http://www.mtv.com/photos/michael-jacksons-this-is-it-trailer-frames/1621244/4251494/photo.jhtml }

This clue was one of the still shots, from the TII trailer; specifically, an army of soldiers, with an “M” in the center of the background (Michael’s army).  Take a look at a close up picture of the soldiers, and you will see that they are not carrying guns or weapons { http://www.mtv.com/photos/michael-jacksons-this-is-it-trailer-frames/1621244/4251493/photo.jhtml }.  This is because it’s an Army of L.O.V.E., not an army of violence.

These soldiers in the TII movie were filmed as part of the song “They Don’t Really Care About Us”.  This army needs to stand up against the NWO corruption, the very ones that MJ is singing about—who don’t really care about us, but kill thousands of their own citizens to forward their evil agenda.

Actually, all four of the film segments in TII are directly related to the hoax and its purpose.  Smooth Criminal: about the hoaxed death.  Thriller: about the MJ “resurrection”.  Earth Song: butterflies (represent re-birth), and healing the world (environment, etc).  The army, just discussed above.  Wow!  Yet another amazing coincidence!!  Or perhaps, was this planned??

Those in the old MJHD forum will remember that I tried hard, more than once, to rally an Army of L.O.V.E. (though at the time, I did not go into the conspiracy aspect); but I got only about a hundred people to post their support prior to the release of the movie.  So let’s try again; this time, we can do better.  How about several hundred, or several thousand—maybe more than ten thousand!  But if we can only come up with a hundred again, then don’t be too surprised if MJ doesn’t come back.

Many people will refuse to listen, yes; but for those who are open-minded, just ask them to go to ThisIsAlsoIt.com, and read TIAI Revealed.  Especially if they are MJ fans, remind them that MJ himself said: “Prejudice is ignorance”.




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R40. “The Whole Armor of God”
{ http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206:12-13&version=KJ21 }

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world [NWO powers], against spiritual wickedness in high places.  Therefore, take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day and, having done all, to stand.” (Ephesians 6:12,13; 21st Century KJV).

If we want to be warriors in Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E., we need to be wearing the “whole armor”—then and only then will we be able to stand against the NWO powers, etc.  Does this mean that we should take up guns and bombs, and only add more strife and bloodshed in this world that needs peace?  No!  The Bible says that “the weapons of our warfare are not carnal [not physical weapons]” (2 Corinthians 10:4).

Then what is the armor, which we need to have?  The context of the above verse in Ephesians gives the answer (verses 13-18): “Therefore, take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day and, having done all, to stand.  Stand therefore, having your loins girded about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness,  and your feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of peace.  Above all, take the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.  And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God, praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints.”

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Finally, some have asked what does the “also” refer to in TIAI?  In addition to the music and entertainment in TII: TIAI is the wake-up call message, to see the NWO for what it is—and join the Army of L.O.V.E. to help heal the world, etc.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 26, 2010, 07:47:56 PM
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You know! I have been thinking about this "Ark of the covenant clue" for nearly a year now, and I have scratched my head many, many times... but nothing I found, read about made me feel that "I got it".

This morning however, I got an idea that the clue may not be so much about the ark of the covenant itself but more about what the ark may be associated with... so here are my thoughts:

As Sarahli and others pointed out, the Ark of the Covenant could well be associated with the Steven Spielberg film the raiders of the lost Ark.

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Good Job!

You'd be surprised How close to the TRUTH movies really are.
I think this was A huge Clue from TS when it was mentioned in the updates about The ARK.

I am glad you went there and got this info, so now we are right back to Knights Templar and now onto the Vatican, I knew we would get there soon enough. (Remember the words surrounding my name?) Freaky.

We're on the Raiders Of the Lost ARK Adventure now, lol

Peace
Comparison...
The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried.

Revelation 11 (Amplified Bible)
Revelation 11
1 A REED [as a measuring rod] was then given to me, [shaped] like a staff, and I was told: Rise up and measure the sanctuary of God and the altar [of incense], and [number] those who worship there.
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Wow ! Great comparison indeed. So we also have to look for the Staff of Ra !  :lol:

According to Theraider.net (http://www.theraider.net/features/articles/demille.php Steven Spielberg was heavily influenced by Producer/director Cecil DeMille for important scenes in the film and Cecil DeMille was a "disciple" of PT Barnum.

(A bit of background on Cecil DeMille: Prototypical Hollywood producer/director Cecil B. DeMille was a living example of one who believed implicitly in P. T. Barnum's most famous axiom, "There's one born every minute." DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era. He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the Bible, liberally peppered with sex. Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films. One such work was The Ten Commandments, made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956.The greatest Show on Earth was done in 1952.)

This gives us a clear association between the Ark of the Covenant story published on the 25th June 2009 and PT Barnum; and brings us full circle to the very start of the Greatest Show on Earth (The Greatest Showman on Earth faking his Death) - remember the Barnum elephants in the street on the day of the memorial?

This is simply amazing!

With L.O.V.E


Thanks for contributing...

I am quoting THE MOST IMPORTANT PART from the info you provided.

DeMille was one of the few early silent directors who was able to cross over into the sound era.
 
:ugeek:  He specialized in large-scale epics, often loosely based on the "Bible", liberally peppered with sex. :ugeek:"

 Two of his earlier talkies, Cleopatra (1934), and 1932's Sign of the Cross represent the height of his work, in my opinion. As DeMille aged, he began to make bigger and more grandiose versions of his earlier films.  

:ugeek: One such work was "The Ten Commandments", made as a silent film in 1923 and again as a talkie in 1956. :ugeek:

This IS in my opinion THE OBJECTIVE.
When basing where we are looking for info in relation to The ARK of The Convenant.
Peace

Just Curious...Have you read any of what we wrote earlier in the thread?

Hello! Im_convincedmjalive,  My pleasure.

Yes! I have read all the good infos on this thread and I was very impressed by the ideas and depth of the thinking. Loved it but did not feel that I had any inspirational thoughts to contribute at the time. The Ark of the Covenant is a very rich and absorbing topic, and one that needs an open mind! (I absolutely agree with you Sarahli)

My morning thoughts (Those that follows my double espresso!) got me to look at it a bit differently, through associations;  Michael got associated with the Ark of the Covenant in the the television show South Park in a 2004 episode - Season 8 Episode 7 - titled "The Jeffersons"  and I thought that the entertainment angle was a worthwhile one to explore:
The raiders of the lost ark to Steven Spielberg to the Liberian Girl and to C DeMille.  C DeMille to the Greatest Show on Earth (PT Barnum) and the 10 Commandments.

I am sure we are getting closer - If the 25th June 2009 announcement was not a coincidence, was it then real?  ;)

Quote
R47. Ark of the Covenant
{http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant}

The Ark of the Covenant? What in the world does that have to do with MJ? Is there some connection with the Raiders of the Lost Ark? Perhaps. But those who read the Wiki article carefully noticed a very interesting date: “On 25 June 2009, the patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia, Abuna Paulos, said he would announce to the world the next day the unveiling of the Ark of the Covenant …” {http://weeklyworldnews.com/headlines/9322/ark-of-the-covenant-revealed/; http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/ ... fter-all/; (http://www.ethiopianreview.com/content/10197;%20http://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/ethiopian-ark-of-the-covenant-not-to-be-revealed-after-all/;) and http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149823 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=149823)}

The unveiling did not actually occur. But why the amazing date of 6-25-09, was this yet another strange coincidence? This of course was the exact same day that the MJ “death” was


With L.O.V.E


Yes Very Much Real.

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149782 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=149782)

Everything is RELEVANT, even what You contributed.

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 26, 2010, 08:06:42 PM
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149601 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=149601)

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... ead=149649 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=149649)
There is more INFO on The Unveiling Of The ARK.

The other link above, (In My other post) You have to scroll to the bottom of the page to get the dirty secrets, lol

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on July 26, 2010, 08:15:42 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
"Raiders of the Lost Ark"

Plot

In 1936, treasure hunter/archaeologist Indiana Jones braves an ancient temple in the Peruvian jungle filled with booby traps to retrieve a Golden Idol. Upon escaping the temple, Indiana is confronted by rival archaeologist René Belloq and the indigenous Hovitos people. Surrounded and outnumbered, Indiana is forced to surrender the idol to Belloq, and flees from a jungle chase aboard a waiting seaplane.

Shortly after returning to the college in the United States where he teaches archeology, Indiana is interviewed by two Army intelligence agents. They inform him that the Nazis, in their quest for occult power, are searching for his old mentor, Abner Ravenwood, who is in possession of the headpiece of an artifact called the Staff of Ra and is the leading expert on the ancient Egyptian city of Tanis. Indiana deduces that the Nazis are searching for the Ark of the Covenant, the biblical chest built by the Israelites to contain the fragments of the Ten Commandments. The Staff of Ra, meanwhile, is the key to finding the Well of Souls, in which the Ark is buried. The agents subsequently authorize Indiana to recover the Ark with the promise of displaying it in a museum. Indiana travels to a tavern in Nepal, only to find that Ravenwood has died and that the headpiece is in the possession of his daughter and Indiana's embittered former lover, Marion. The tavern is suddenly raided by a group of thugs commanded by Nazi agent Major Toht. The tavern is burned down in the ensuing fight, during which Toht burns his hand on the searing hot headpiece as he tries to grab it. Indiana and Marion escape with the headpiece, with Marion declaring she will accompany Indiana in his search for the Ark so he can repay his debt.

They travel to Cairo where they learn from Sallah, Indiana's friend and a skilled digger, that the Nazis are currently digging for the Well of Souls with the aid of Belloq and a replica of the headpiece modeled after the scar on Toht's hand. In a bazaar, Nazi operatives kidnap Marion and fake her death in front of Indiana, strengthening his resolve to find the Ark. While deciphering the markings on the headpiece, Indiana and Sallah realize that the Nazis have miscalculated the location of the Well of Souls. Using this to their advantage, they infiltrate the Nazi dig and use the Staff of Ra to correctly determine the location and uncover the Well of Souls, which is filled with venomous snakes. After Indiana obtains the Ark, Belloq and the Nazis arrive to take it for themselves. They proceed to toss Marion, who is alive, down into the well with Indiana and seal them both in. However, they manage to navigate the underground temple and escape. After a grueling fist fight with a German mechanic, blowing up a flying wing ready to ship the Ark to Germany, and chasing down a convoy of trucks, Indiana manages to take back the Ark before it can be shipped to Berlin.

Indiana and Marion leave Cairo to escort the Ark to England on board a tramp steamer. The next morning, their boat is boarded by the Nazis who once again steal the Ark and kidnap Marion. Indiana stows away on the U-boat and follows them to an isolated island where Belloq plans to test the power of the Ark before presenting it to Adolf Hitler. Indiana reveals himself and threatens to destroy the Ark with a rocket launcher, but Belloq calls his bluff.

Indiana surrenders and is tied to a post with Marion as Belloq performs a ceremonial opening of the Ark, which appears to contain nothing but sand. Suddenly, spirits emerge from the Ark; aware of the supernatural danger of looking at the opened Ark, Indiana warns Marion to close her eyes. The apparitions suddenly morph into demonic creatures, and lightning bolts begin flying out of the ark, gruesomely killing the Nazis. The fires rise into the sky, then fall back down to Earth and the Ark closes with a crack of thunder.

Back in Washington, D.C.
, the Army intelligence agents tell a suspicious Indiana that the Ark "is someplace safe" to be studied by "top men". In reality, the Ark is sealed in a wooden crate labeled "top secret" and stored in a giant government warehouse filled with countless similar crates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raiders_of_the_Lost_Ark)

So in the movie the Ark is in Washington DC. It's just a movie I know  8-)
DOTS of TMZ Article was also on The ARK and this movie came up.
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "imissMJ147"
Joe Jackson Linked to Unauthorized MJ Memorial
Posted Jun 24th 2010 8:34 AM by TMZ Staff

The Michael Jackson estate and others have been asking ... who's behind an unauthorized MJ memorial set
to go down Saturday night at the Beverly Hilton -- now, there's a smoking gun pointed at Joe Jackson.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/06/24/0624-joe-mj-ex-getty.jpg)

As we previously reported, the bash is being thrown by a website called VoicePlate.com -- but no one could
identify the person responsible for pulling the strings. It's also unclear who convinced Katherine Jackson to
record that awkward, scripted promotional video for the tribute.

But now -- a clue ... and it all has to do with the featured entertainment at the MJ tribute...a band called the Chi-Lites -- they had a couple of hits in the '70s, including "Oh Girl" and "Have You Seen Her."

If you recall, just days after MJ died ... Joe Jackson shamelessly held a news conference to introduce his new business partner, Marshall Thompson ... a member of the Chi-Lites.

Think it's coincidence that the band got a brand new gig ... at an MJ event? Didn't think so.

The article posting date:
Jun 24th 2010 8:34 AM
6 + 2 + 4 + 2 + 1 + 8 + 3 + 4 = 30
3 - Trinity, Union of Divine plus Human, Manifestation, Positive, Negative and Neutral, Expression, Subconscious Mind/Imagination, Creative, Optimistic, Enthusiasm, Expressive, Charming, Humor, Fun, Attractive, Friendly.
http://www.numberquest.com/knowledge_number_meaning_3.php

hits in the '70s- The Number 7

Chi- Lites is bolded in the article.

Chi - is the 22nd letter of the Greek alphabet.
Chi or X is often used to abbreviate the name Christ, as in the holiday Christmas (Xmas). When fused within a single typespace with the Greek letter Rho, it is called the Chi-Rho, often displayed on the labarum, and used to represent the person of Jesus Christ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_%28letter%29

Chi-Rho compared to Image on the stage floor from the movie TII (TII CD Booklet Image

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/Chi-Rhocompare.jpg)

Lites or Lights
1 a : something that makes vision possible
5 a : spiritual illumination b  : inner light  c : enlightenment  d : truth
8 : something that enlightens or informs
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/light

JJLUMJM

JJL - Joyful Jubilant Learning
Aloha and welcome to Joyful Jubilant Learning
by Rosa Say on February 13, 2010

Ua ola loko ‘ao i ke aloha; Aloha provides life and learning from within.

This site was a learning project born from the Aloha  of the Ho‘ohana Community  of Talking Story with Say Leadership Coaching in 2006. It was published as a group blog dedicated to global web-based tertiary learning, and guided by our universal values, articulated within these pages with the Hawaiian names of

* Aloha —unconditional love and acceptance of humanity
* ‘Ike loa —the seeking of wisdom through lifelong learning. When coupled with Aloha there is an emphasis on learning from other people
* Kakou —inclusiveness as a “language of we” in communication, and to foster open-mindedness in our collaborative efforts
* Ho‘ohana —an ever-present intention to apply our learning to the work we are personally inspired by and committed to
* Hau‘oli‘oli —joy, wonder and delight

We learn beginnings, and we learn endings
Ho‘omau —How can we mau, always persist[/b], and ho‘o, make it happen, so that the good created here becomes long-lasting, and will encourage learning to continue?

Mahalo nui loa, thank you for reading, and for being a Joyful Learner. That ‘being’ is the way you honor your own Aloha Spirit, for remember: Ua ola loko ‘ao i ke aloha; Aloha provides life and learning from within.
http://joyfuljubilantlearning.com/

UM - User Modeling
User modeling is a sub-area of human–computer interaction, in which the researcher / designer develops cognitive models of human users, including modeling of their skills and declarative knowledge. User models can predict human error and learning time, and can thus serve as a cheaper alternative to user testing. User models can guide user interface designers to minimize error rates and learning time. Sub-areas: student modeling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_modeling

Student Modeling - Intelligent Tutoring System
An intelligent tutoring system is any computer system that provides direct customized instruction or feedback to students, i.e. without the intervention of human beings, whilst performing a task. Thus, ITS implements the theory of learning by doing. An ITS may employ a range of different technologies. However, usually such systems are more narrowly conceived of as artificial intelligence systems, more specifically expert systems made to simulate aspects of a human tutor. Intelligent Tutor Systems have been around since the late 1970s, but increased in popularity in the 1990s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_tutoring_system

So we are the students receiving our instruction VIA the computers we use and through the Internet, connecting on forums etc.

JM - Jedi Master (Little bit of humour anyone  :lol: )
The Jedi are characters in the Star Wars universe and the series' main protagonists. They use a quasi-telekinetic power, known as the Force, and weapons, known as lightsabers, which emit a controlled energy flow in the shape of a sword, to serve and protect their Republic and the whole galaxy from conflict or government instability. They sometimes moderate peace negotiations between planets and, if necessary, use their formidable fighting skills to quickly end an unrest. The Jedi are led by a Council of 12 members consisting of the most powerful and wise members of the order. The Jedi are bound to a code of morality and justice and are trained in the use of the light side of the force but not the Dark side.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi

He sees his role as similar to that of a Jedi Master. Teacher and protector, serving us.

[youtube:33wqoed7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcjnbIF1yAA[/youtube:33wqoed7]

TABITD

TAB - Tabernacle
The Tabernacle according to the Hebrew Torah/Old Testament, was the portable dwelling place for the divine presence from the time of the Exodus from Egypt through the conquering of the land of Canaan. Built to specifications revealed by God (Yahweh) to Moses at Mount Sinai, it accompanied the Israelites on their wanderings in the wilderness and their conquest of the Promised Land, and was eventually placed in the First Temple in Jerusalem, which superseded it as the dwelling-place of God among the Israelites. It is not mentioned after the destruction of Jerusalem by the Babylonians.

The fullest description of the Tabernacle describes an inner shrine named Kodesh Hakodashim (Holy of Holies) housing the Ark of the Covenant and an outer chamber (Holy Place), with a golden lampstand, table for showbread, and altar of incense. This description is generally identified as part of the Priestly source, written in the 6th or 5th century BC. Many scholars contend that it is of a far later date than Moses, and that the description reflects the structure of the Temple of Solomon, while some hold that the description derives from memories of a real pre-monarchic shrine, perhaps the sanctuary at Shiloh. According to the 19th century "Higher Criticism" school of Julius Wellhausen, an earlier, pre-exilic source describes the Tabernacle as a simple tent-sanctuary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabernacle

(http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy67/droopinghalo/Ark.jpg)

COVENANT - An agreement between God and his people in which God makes certain promises and requires certain behavior from them in return
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=covenant

The Ark of the Covenant
The Ark of the Covenant is a vessel described in the Bible as containing the Tablets of Stone on which the Ten Commandments were inscribed, along with Aaron's rod and manna. According to the Pentateuch, the Ark was built at the command of God, in accord with Moses' prophetic vision on Mount Sinai (Exodus 25:10-16). God was said to have communicated with Moses "from between the two cherubim" on the Ark's cover (Exodus 25:22). The Ark and its sanctuary were considered "the beauty of Israel" (Lamentations 2:1). Rashi and some Midrashim suggest that there were two arks - a temporary one made by Moses himself, and a later one constructed by Bezalel.

Biblical account relates that during the Israelites' exodus from Egypt, the Ark was carried by the priests some 2,000 cubits, or 1,000 m; 3,400 ft (Numbers 35:5; Joshua 4:5) in advance of the people and their army, or host (Num. 4:5-6; 10:33-36; Psalms 68:1; 132:8). When the Ark was borne by priests into the bed of the Jordan, water in the river separated, opening a pathway for the entire host to pass through (Josh. 3:15-16; 4:7-18). The city of Jericho was taken with no more than a shout after the Ark of Covenant was paraded for seven days around its wall by seven priests sounding seven trumpets of rams' horns (Josh. 6:4-20). When carried, the Ark was always wrapped in a veil, in tachash skins (the identity of this animal is uncertain), and a blue cloth, and was carefully concealed, even from the eyes of the Cohanim who carried it.
Over time, the accounts of the Ark have gathered a number of references in popular culture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant_in_popular_culture

[youtube:33wqoed7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU_s95oq5lU[/youtube:33wqoed7]

ITD - Inception To Date
Inception
- A an event that is a beginning; a first part or stage of subsequent events; origin
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=inception

To Date - Prior to the present time
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=to%20date

This has all been part of the plan since the beginning up until the present time.

I also found a movie entitled Inception.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/

Plot Summary for Inception (2010)
Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) is a skilled thief, the absolute best in the dangerous art of extraction, stealing valuable secrets from deep within the subconscious during the dream state, when the mind is at its most vulnerable. Cobb's rare ability has made him a coveted player in this treacherous new world of corporate espionage, but it has also made him an international fugitive and cost him everything he has ever loved. Now Cobb is being offered a chance at redemption. One last job could give him his life back but only if he can accomplish the impossible-inception. Instead of the perfect heist, Cobb and his team of specialists have to pull off the reverse: their task is not to steal an idea but to plant one. If they succeed, it could be the perfect crime. But no amount of careful planning or expertise can prepare the team for the dangerous enemy that seems to predict their every move. An enemy that only Cobb could have seen coming.  Written by Warner Bros. Pictures

Warner Bros. TMZ parent company and connected to MJ through the Saudi Prince his partner in Kingdom Entertainmnet.

[youtube:33wqoed7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sd0ff1sbJU[/youtube:33wqoed7]

I have put all the articles I have deciphered in a single thread on the other forum. The first articles I did not completely decipher as they were before TS said that the title was also DOTS (acronyms). I have not gone back and looked at them. I also have not tried to decipher every single article in about Michael on TMZ.
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=9118
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 26, 2010, 09:10:21 PM
http://newine.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/ ... -unveiled/ (http://newine.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/ark-of-the-covenant-being-unveiled/)

Notice The Names, lol

Quotes Taken From Above Blog:
TITLE:
Ark of the Covenant Being Unveiled?

Who is boasting, exactly? As much is to be expected. Such things are hardly new to God. Another site penned an even more churlish put-down since I began writing this, noting:

Another Worldnut Daily exclusive… It’s like an Elvis commemorative plate from the Franklin Mint, only a certain amount are made…. 3000 year old manna? That stuff has a longer shelflife than a Twinkie.

If they had any idea what they are (probably) dealing with, they would be on their knees. That site purports to be driven by science; but since science has already proven the dates for the Hebraic structures on Tana Qirqos Island, it’s hard to tell how science (as opposed to prejudice) is informing his blanket dismissal of it.

Another mocker, sitting on the throne of science rather than exploring the science. (Science and scientists used to be even-handed… I think… long ago.)

But since he brought it up, it’s interesting that they should mention Elvis. Of all the hypothetical headline-dominating stories you might have been able to imagine say, on Wednesday, what would have had enough ‘oompf’ to punch through even the economy, North Korea and Iran? The untimely death of MJ. A blind world is blinded further still to the stories that will really rock the world and not just ‘beat it’.

As I’ve talked to friends about this, one of the most common questions I get is, “Why haven’t we heard about this before?” And, from several commenters here, “When is this going to ‘break’?” To which my response is: What do you expect from the world? Or to put it another way: Why would you imagine that God would reveal himself on the front page of the New York Times? Or that they’d take the story, even if He walked into the newsroom and showed them the nail scars in his hands and feet? They still wouldn’t write it, even then.

It’s the same dilemma the disciples faced with Jesus himself. Fear of being accused of credulity mixed in them with a deep inner sense that they could not explain of the utter credibility of what they were seeing and hearing. The small signs the world mocks; the still, small voice that comes through in unexpected ways and says, quiet clearly: it’s true; stay the course; keep seeking Me and I will show you and guide you though the whole world goes mad. God doesn’t work the way the world expects him to. Never has. Though he will, as we read in Isaiah 45:23

“By myself I have sworn [says the Lord]; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’“

Paul reiterates it in Romans 14:11. We are told in so many places in scripture that God has a different set of lenses for looking at things… that God’s ways are not man’s ways.
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@Serenity,

Thank You...

I was hoping you would show up with THE DOTS of TMZ, lol

I have Noticed TMZ titles (Not Dots but, Titles themselves), even words inside the stories directly stating things from the Bible.

One was about The Jackson Children calling Arnie Klien.. Judas, and some other ones like Sodom and Gamorah<(spelling?), etc.

Thanks again for coming through.

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on July 27, 2010, 03:55:47 AM
Holy Moly!!!! Have you been digging around in those rabbit holes! IMO you get a better understanding of the Holy Bible/ Scriptures, from annalyzing the hundreds of movies that touch on various aspects, and exploring thinkers, historians, etc. from the internet. It's called thinking outside the box, or the walls of the church, where you are told what you must think and believe, or else.

I personally believe there is an alien element involved in what has been happening in our history this last 5 or 6 thousand years, and they will also play an important part in the end time scenario, Revelations. Because Revelation is still future, I believe God has the perogative to make it go any way he chooses. Kinda like those books where you choose which way you want the ending to go, just to make it more interesting. In one of your articles on the Blue Beam project (which I read about a few years back) it said NWO forces would strive to fulfill the prophecy in their own way, and in that sense BE the ACTUAL fulfillment of end time Scripture. (Remember Back to the Future, the movie and being able to change events by going forward or backward in time, and God is outside time?) As far as an alien invasion being something that would unite all humans/countries under one leader, remember the movie Independance Day, and of course USA were the ones hailed as the hero nation.

I agree with you that this Templar blood-line, through the Royalties, etc. is lining up to the Anti-Christ or world leader that will seem to be able to implement world peace. But it will be counterfeit, with lying signs and wonders. The true One will unite all the lost tribes of the nation of Israel and bring them home to Israel, which has not happened yet, if you read ALL of the OT prophet books. I don't know if you have read about Illuminati leaders cooperating with reptilian forces to gain the extreme technology we have obtained this last 50 years. That's a deep scary rabbit hole. I believe there are evil and good "alien" forces, all under the authority of God, or course, on an inter-galatic scale. Way beyond my speck of a brain to grasp.

Now if this doesn't sound alien, then I don't know what, in Revelation 9:

"The fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.  And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.  And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.  And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.  And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment [was] as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.  And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.  

And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men.  And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as [the teeth] of lions. And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings [was] as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.  And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months.  And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon.  One woe is past; [and], behold, there come two woes.  And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,  Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.  

And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.  And the number of the army of the horsemen [were] two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.  And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses [were] as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.  By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.  For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails [were] like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.  And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:  Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. "

I believe with all my heart that many of the supernatural elements in the Bible were related to UFO's, (God is still the Creator and supreme power guiding) and UFO's will play an important part in our future. I will give you a smattering of verses that are only to do with Jesus' ascention and our being caught up. "Beam me up, Scotty". I don't know if any of you have seen youtube clips of satelite images of UFO's by the hundreds that were gathered around this long marker bar high in the atmosphere, and some were absolutely gigantic, and seemed to come in and out of cloaking. Quite shocking that we are being watched, and have been for a long time. Anyway these are some verses--just try to do the mental flip that clouds are UFO's, since they didn't have that word back then. Might have looked something like the MJair blimp.[attachment=0:2r6b6qfx]scthisisit[1].jpg[/attachment:2r6b6qfx]

Acts 1:9-11
 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.  And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

Matthew 24:30-31
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.  And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather (beam up) together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:  Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Speaking of being snatched up - is also Enoch, Elijah, Ezekiel, and Philip. Here's the interesting verses about Philip:

Acts 8:38-40
And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.  And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.  But Philip was found at Azotus (my NASV has Philip found himself at Azotus): and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

I know Serenitys_Dream posted a while back a bunch of early centuries Christian art work with UFO's in the background. Very mysterious and begs more looking into. I'm not saying that miracles are not a part of it all, but when we observe most strange mysteries, they after analysis usually have a scientific basis to them. I think the Bible is a combination of miraculous, symbolical/metaphorical,  and scientifically based information.

Sorry this is so long. It's hard to put thoughts down that make any kind of sense in short pieces.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on July 27, 2010, 04:12:07 AM
Okay now I'm half joking, and going way out on a limb here, oh well, what the heck.

Maybe Michael was beamed up temporarily into some kind of a spaceship, that looked like the one on Scream, or Moonwalker, or MJair blimp. Remember the crypt where MJ is supposedly buried has the stain-glass art just above it, depicting the Ascention of Jesus!! Supervision had a vision of MJ supposedly I think in some kind of gravity-less state, like clips on Scream where he and Janet float around. They could do that just a few miles up. Well, I'm not too serious, but I just like exploring crazy ideas. Sometimes I think to myself that the whole MJ hoax is just a mirage, and I'm completely deluded, he's dead, or he's alive and nothing more will come of it. So then I've lost nothing if I've completely mistaken in all my zany theories. Kay sera sera, what will be-- will be. But I'll have had a fun adventure! Hope you'll all forgive me... I'm just trying to put all the pieces together like every one here.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: TheRunningGirl on July 27, 2010, 07:59:50 AM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Okay now I'm half joking, and going way out on a limb here, oh well, what the heck.

Maybe Michael was beamed up temporarily into some kind of a spaceship, that looked like the one on Scream, or Moonwalker, or MJair blimp. Remember the crypt where MJ is supposedly buried has the stain-glass art just above it, depicting the Ascention of Jesus!! Supervision had a vision of MJ supposedly I think in some kind of gravity-less state, like clips on Scream where he and Janet float around. They could do that just a few miles up. Well, I'm not too serious, but I just like exploring crazy ideas. Sometimes I think to myself that the whole MJ hoax is just a mirage, and I'm completely deluded, he's dead, or he's alive and nothing more will come of it. So then I've lost nothing if I've completely mistaken in all my zany theories. Kay sera sera, what will be-- will be. But I'll have had a fun adventure! Hope you'll all forgive me... I'm just trying to put all the pieces together like every one here.

MJonmind - Interesting thoughts! I do at time as well wonder at which level this hoax is being played, let me explain what I mean:  First, it is as if somebody/something reluctantly drove me to be part of this "hoax" through bombarding me with messages (11:11, 9:11, 12:21 - various dreams and visions...etc) when I was very happy with my busy professional and social life and never really gave Michael much attention, so why now? What is really driving all of this? Here are my thoughts on the possible level this hoax could be played at, and how this impact our discussion on the Ark of the Covenant:

1. The terrestrial level: Michael wanted to do something never before, the greatest of all greatest show on Earth and created the hoax, an alternative reality game that will move the meaning a greatness to a next level and give him an audience like nobody ever had before...Like minded individuals are subconsciously being pulled together to help make it a success. In relation to the "Ark of the Covenant" discussion on this thread this would lead to the type of clues I discussed in earlier posts (e.g. Films/Directors and association with the hoax) and the message on the unveiling issued on the 25th June, possibly being a hoax message to fit with MJ Hoax.

2. The Terrestrial level + Message: Same as above with the desire to use this global reach to motivate people to unite and create a better world.  The 10 Commandments possibly become an integral part of the  "Ark of the Covenant" "clue" as may other key messages denouncing government corruptions...etc.

3. The Planetary level: We are here looking at greater forces, whether "God" or Aliens or else, and absolutely everything is possible, whether we have reached the time for the new earth(Revelation 21:1 ) or are facing different type of "surreal" challenges, I do not know. If the hoax is "played" at this level, well! this is no "game" anymore, this is real and we better hurry-up and get our act together.  In relation to the "Ark of the Covenant" discussion, we are here probably looking at very real clues leading to its unveiling or the truth about its real meaning... and the events surrounding the 25th June 2009.

I trust this makes sense.

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on July 27, 2010, 12:22:17 PM
Maybe the real ark was already beamed up on a ship in our atmosphere, and ALL the ones on earth are fakes, YNK.  There's supposed to be 3 heavens, and the Bible doesn't always specify which one it is referring to. The first heaven is where the birds fly, the second one is the larger area around the earth, and the other is in some distant galactic location, possibly Orion, IDK. If you go with my UFO theory, and there are massive UFO's by the hundreds/thousands cloaked from visibility in our atmosphere, the disaster this Rev. passage below depicts, could easily be the UFO's beaming death and destruction on earth in a cataclysmic fashion, to rival the best Hollywood action movie. If you look at the story of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah where 3 angels visited and told Abraham to get his brother Lot out before it was blown (one of the Angels was Yahshuah (Jesus) in a pre-incarnate form). This is clearly nuclear and could have been a death ray beamed from a UFO above. The Old Testament is literally packed with details that point to UFO type activity.

Revelation 11:19 "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail." Is earth clearly visible from where this is describing?

Rev. 15:5-16:6 " And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:  And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.  And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever.  And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled. And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth. And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image.  And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead [man]: and every living soul died in the sea.  And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood. And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.  For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy...."  And the blasts of death go on and on. We've seen movies and have got imagination. :(  

Genesis 19:24-29  "Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven; (micro-waves from UFO's, ha ha) And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.  But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.  And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the LORD:  And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.  And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt."
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on July 27, 2010, 12:45:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0jpUPLqLhA&feature=fvw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0jpUPLqLhA&feature=fvw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPFmh-LTkuw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPFmh-LTkuw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbPR1yI3 ... =1&index=5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbPR1yI3XSI&feature=PlayList&p=FE434738723F1411&playnext=1&index=5)
The last video is Nasa and the space station, and it will blow your mind. This is no spoof or amateur back-yard video but official. Start more like half way through. Look for other videos about this UFO and tether indicent. WE  ARE  NOT  ALONE. Revelations, 2012 HERE  WE  COME!! All hell will break loose! There's a time and season for everthing. And the scoffers say that doomsday prophets have always been around, 2000 came and went. But does that mean nothing will EVER happen. We know that throughout earth's long history, there have been several (perhaps many more) times when almost all life on earth was destroyed and humans were thrown back to primitive survival. I trust the cryptic understanding of the Bible, I trust Michael, I trust God. In the long run of things, He loves us, His c reation. It will all work together for good, to those who love God. But it's His tory!!
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 27, 2010, 01:02:48 PM
8-)

Main Page:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... perman.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_superman.htm)

Project Superman
An exclusive interview with Andy Pero
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... ndy%20Pero (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_superman0.htm#An%20exclusive%20interview%20with%20Andy%20Pero)

An exclusive interview with Andy Pero, survivor of a secret mind control project aimed at creating the super soldier with psionic abilities.

Andy Pero was unwillingly subjected to a mind control program off-shoot the Monarch Project-a trauma based mind control program similar to what Cathy O' Brien describes in her autobiography by Mark Philips, "Tranceformation of America".

Andy Pero claims to have been created through a combination of genetic manipulation, trauma based mind control and Silva Mind Control training resulting in superhuman feats and psionic abilities. In addition to this, Mr. Pero alleges to have been unwittingly used in covert assassinations as a Manchurian Candidate and also in missions connected to the Montauk Project, such as time travel.

YIKES!^^^^^ :shock:


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... perman.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/superman/project_superman.htm)

Excerpts from above Link:^^^^

In August of 1998, I met Andy Pero in Philadelphia, PA while attending Bob Eure’s CIREAP group. At the time I was scheduled to be a speaker on my Alien Abduction research. Preston Nichols also presented his material that evening. Preston brought Andy Pero with him this evening as a surprise guest to share some of his "Montauk Boy" experiences.

When Andy first "broke programming", and memories surfaced of being a covert operative in a sub-project of the Montauk Project, he was "gung-ho" about wanting to take down the whole "evil Nazi Mind Control Regime". He claimed that he and thousands of others had been victimized by this type of mind control experimentation. He was well aware of the Reptilian-Draco Illuminati connection and had a few run-ins with the Reptilian shapeshifters himself.

Andy was willing to do a radio interview for Night Search, but he later recanted because of a series of abductions, including reptilian assaults—and threats to his future wife and son. Apparently, Andy realized during his "total recall" phase that he had a special soul mate that he was bonded to, who would later become his future wife. He claimed he had sired an 8-year old son with this woman, and that his "abductors/controllers" used this against him to not go public or they would be killed.

Andy loved them and this was the final straw that silenced him from exposing his full story. I questioned Andy about this soul mate future wife, whether this could be a "love bite set-up" designed to deceive him into being cooperative with his controllers not to go public any further. He insisted that she was real and the mother–son duo lived in some underground base somewhere.

Much of what Andy told me is in my interview entitled; "Project Superman" published in Unknown Magazine, winter 1999 issue. But there were other tidbits Andy discussed with me, which I considered too unbelievable, although they could be true, but not confirmed. These incidents may very well be true, but I had no way of knowing. Some of these memoirs were funny, others too horrid to repeat.

One such account is a memory Andy had about being in an underground base, escorted by his human Nazi handlers to a group of tall Greys. Apparently Andy had been able to resist his programmers to such an extent, that his handler, an Aryan looking man he called "Adolph", brought him into a room of 5 Grey aliens.

These Greys were used to reinforce mind control more effectively for "resistant" slaves. (I chided with Andy that the aliens were the "Master Mind Control Programmers") Andy described seeing 2 Greys sitting down at a table with 3 Greys standing in front of him. Andy heard one of the Greys say telepathically, " You will obey us." Andy screamed back to the skin-headed aliens, "Look, knock that off or I’ll kill you!"

The aliens continued their demands of obedience into Andy’s mind. Andy warned them a second time, "I’ll kill you!" Then Andy focused his telekinetic psi ability to physically throw the commanding alien up against the wall, splitting its head open. The other 3 aliens stood up, as Andy picked up another alien with his "mind powers", until the whole group of them scrambled out of the room.

Sensing that this situation was getting out of control, Adolph grabbed Andy and said, "Let’s get out of here!" Full of adrenaline, Andy shouted back, "I don’t care, I’m indestructible!" I couldn’t help but ask Andy, "What color was the aliens head’s insides that splat all over the wall? Did they have red blood?" He told me, "It was whitish grey with greenish blood." We joked about that one, laughing it off as "alien Grey split pea soup!" (I mentioned this to an Internet list group of "experiencers" and they became very angry with me, wanting to defend the poor aliens. They eventually kicked me off the Muppet list!)

Andy did say he had been abducted by the alien Greys a few times, where samples were taken from him for breeding purposes. One of the more bizarre stories Andy related to me was about his visit to a group of high level Illuminati, who were really shape shifting reptilians, that convened in an underground base not far from Rochester, NY. This happened sometime in 1989-90.

He was not sure of the exact location, but it was an underground facility in a large conference room where a very long, dark wooded conference table sat. It was a party gathering where a group of tall, Aryan looking; older males were having drinks. One of the men walked over to Andy, and his human image phased out, as if there was an energetic interference that caused his holographic image to shift.

Andy looked at the creature as he adjusted some button on a black box device attached to his waist. The man’s image shifted from a tall human to a 7-foot tall, 450lb lizard man, according to Andy. The reptilian shifted back again to human, and then said, "Here, I’ll show you". So he pushes the button on his waist device and his image shifts back to the 7-foot tall Reptoid creature. Apparently, Andy thought that his energy field caused a momentary shift in the holographic human image that the Reptilian masqueraded.

The artificial hologram was maintained by a device that they wore on their waist. I wouldn’t have taken Andy’s story too seriously, except for a similar report from a Monarch slave who described the same thing—the long, wooden conference table, the same large view screen in the front of the room, and the tall Aryan humans who could alter their holographic image via a box held at their waist.


 :ugeek: hmmmm! Interesting  :ugeek:
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MONTAUK PROJECT: ALIENS  :?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/monta ... s-Treaties (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk.htm#Books-Treaties)
What you are about to encounter is the most in-depth compilation of interviews with survivors of the Philadelphia experiment and Montauk project to date.

The information comes from the memories of those who were interviewed. Because these projects are so secretive, gaining hard evidence is nearly impossible. However, that doesn't mean the projects never happened.

This information is for those who want to pursue and know the truth. Sometimes, finding the truth becomes elusive.  There are many out there who do not want you to know the truth about these projects. Use your own judgment as you hear the words of these survivors.

As you follow this story, use this information as the beginning resource to hopefully, get you on the right track.

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 8-)

I have NO CLUE whether this is REAL or NOT, meaning I personally haven't seen it with my own eyes.

I am leaning towards REAL but, this isn't what it appears to be, meaning I am under the belief that this has been twisted into a theory of ALIENS from outer space, under the mind control programming of The Illuminati to scare the crap out of people to have them conform, submit to THEM. NWO Power Theme.

What I believe these Aliens to be (and yes I do think they exist) but, what I think they are is DEMONS...the ones described in the links above.

They're the opposite of ANGELS...Angelic beings can also look like aliens...imo.
lol Weird Science..lol
Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 27, 2010, 01:41:38 PM
8-)

The book:  The Montauk Project: Experiments in Time
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/monta ... auk_16.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_montauk_16.htm)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/monta ... lfia_7.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/montauk/esp_filadelfia_7.htm)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Excerpt from above link
Peter Moon

 Co-author of the Montauk Series, Peter Moon is a writer who has a unique talent for blending the bizarre into normal reality and conveying it in simple language that can be understood. He began studying the esoteric tradition as a young man which led to many personal spiritual discoveries. This led him on a path to the enigmatic L. Ron Hubbard who he served as a personal confidante aboard the former’s mystery yacht Apollo.

 Learning the basic secrets of Scientology, which included the precise study of how to clear up implants, Peter Moon ignited factors in his own life that would take him away from organized Scientology and lead to more bizarre adventures yet. His study of Hubbard’s pre-Scientology life led him to the work of Aleister Crowley whereupon he began to traffic with some of the most interesting occultists in the world, and more importantly, the discovery of a real life implant station at Montauk Point, New York.

 He found out about this remarkable information from Preston Nichols, a scientist who actually worked at the implant station and told fascinating and detailed accounts of time travel experimentation.  
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Notice the two names mentioned...
L. Ron Hubbard
Aleister Crowley

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on July 27, 2010, 02:02:18 PM
I read related aspects of that stuff years ago, and it is scary stuff, (most of it way over my head) and things happening down under Area 51 or the many personal testimonies of encounters, for example; classified to the public, who scurry about their happy routine lives above, would die of fright.  :shock: While I used to wonder if it was all demonic, I think that word is too generic, like saying everything in the natural world is Science. "Science" encompasses billions of interesting visible objects. So too, "demonic" is simply a layman's term for the vast unknown to us. Five hundred years ago people seeing a light switch go on to light a room, would have thought it was demonic. I have come to believe that at the very top top top, the evil and the good blend into the Awesome God, Power, Force, Intelligence that created, sustains, and plans every atom of matter and energy, and event in time. Evil was created to form the antithesis of good. Black, a backdrop to showcase light. The duality other threads have discussed. The Bible in its original language of ancient Hebrew (IMO), is the best of God's cryptic clues to mankind to discover universal truth. NOT for shallow study.

I always think to myself, there is outright deliberate lying information, there is misinformed scare-mongering of frightened investigators who have embellished stories, and then there is real solid (historically, scientifically, archeologically, and intellectually verified) truth, sprinkled here and there for earnest diggers to find. Diamonds are usually placed deep and are rare, and even when found have to be precisely cut to bring out their true brilliance and value.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 27, 2010, 03:20:40 PM
Some things in the Bible have to be taken like metaphors I think and not at face value.

For example

"And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men."

The locusts can be the helicopters of today. At the time of the revelations helicopters didn't exist (I know that you know  :D  this is just to put things clear) hence the description which can make people fantasy nowadays on the existence of "Aliens".

I am very skeptical about UFO's as described by people. I believe in other forms of life and I know that we don't know everything but the existence of a super intelligent force with space ships that would show up before the end of times like in Independance Day makes me wonder... I think it's part of the NWO agenda.
As Im_convincedmjalive said it has also something to see with mental programming.

The so-called Aliens can "simply" be Demons. Satan's army. We don't know what they look like and the NWO powers makes them enter our dimension by opening gates and by doing satanic rituals under contructions like domes or pyramids because these architectures attract a lot of energy and depending on the rituals that are made under depends the energy that is brought.

I think and it's my personal belief that the Pyramids in Egypt were built with the help of Demons. Because their contruction has still now not been explained. How did they manage to built Pyramids with absolutely nothing but stones. They had no devices like today. How did they do ?

I advise this serie of videos "a trip into the supernatural" :
"Roger Morneau was involved in demon worship, lived in that world for many months, and escaped alive. He is able to give us inside information about it. It does not conform with popular notes of who parttakes and what the activities are. Roger was elected to be a member of an elite group of demon worshipers. When he was about to be permanently initiated he asked for help from higher powers to leave it alive. Interview with the famous author of the book titled the same."

I put part 1 here:

[youtube:1yfg8dws]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCd0qNbinWI&feature=related[/youtube:1yfg8dws]
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 27, 2010, 03:30:10 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
I read related aspects of that stuff years ago, and it is scary stuff, (most of it way over my head) and things happening down under Area 51 or the many personal testimonies of encounters, for example; classified to the public, who scurry about their happy routine lives above, would die of fright.  :shock: While I used to wonder if it was all demonic, I think that word is too generic, like saying everything in the natural world is Science. "Science" encompasses billions of interesting visible objects. So too, "demonic" is simply a layman's term for the vast unknown to us. Five hundred years ago people seeing a light switch go on to light a room, would have thought it was demonic. I have come to believe that at the very top top top, the evil and the good blend into the Awesome God, Power, Force, Intelligence that created, sustains, and plans every atom of matter and energy, and event in time. Evil was created to form the antithesis of good. Black, a backdrop to showcase light. The duality other threads have discussed. The Bible in its original language of ancient Hebrew (IMO), is the best of God's cryptic clues to mankind to discover universal truth. NOT for shallow study.

I always think to myself, there is outright deliberate lying information, there is misinformed scare-mongering of frightened investigators who have embellished stories, and then there is real solid (historically, scientifically, archeologically, and intellectually verified) truth, sprinkled here and there for earnest diggers to find. Diamonds are usually placed deep and are rare, and even when found have to be precisely cut to bring out their true brilliance and value.


When I use the term Demons, I am NOT using it in a generic blanket ALL term to justify everything happening in our world or beyond.

I mean that the "INTENTION" behind an experiment like The Montauk Project is demonic in nature. And who knows if the Aliens that guy saw weren't Demons?

I could use the term Angelic if the experiment and INTENTIONS were the ones performing The Montauk Project. But, I have to conclude it is demonic in it's use because of what the experiments entail:

Mind Control with GOD knows what kind of torture happening to the people who were subject to this.

I don't claim to know or understand half of what is out there.

I am sure there is some shit that exists that would freak me into a state of pissing my pants.

Lmao..

Ok I love the X-files..."The truth is out there somewhere"
Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 27, 2010, 03:57:35 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Some things in the Bible have to be taken like metaphors I think and not at face value.

For example

"And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men."

The locusts can be the helicopters of today. At the time of the revelations helicopters didn't exist (I know that you know  :D  this is just to put things clear) hence the description which can make people fantasy nowadays on the existence of "Aliens".

I am very skeptical about UFO's as described by people. I believe in other forms of life and I know that we don't know everything but the existence of a super intelligent force with space ships that would show up before the end of times like in Independance Day makes me wonder... I think it's part of the NWO agenda.
As Im_convincedmjalive said it has also something to see with mental programming.

The so-called Aliens can "simply" be Demons. Satan's army. We don't know what they look like and the NWO powers makes them enter our dimension by opening gates and by doing satanic rituals under contructions like domes or pyramids because these architectures attract a lot of energy and depending on the rituals that are made under depends the energy that is brought.

I think and it's my personal belief that the Pyramids in Egypt were built with the help of Demons. Because their contruction has still now not been explained. How did they manage to built Pyramids with absolutely nothing but stones. They had no devices like today. How did they do ?

I advise this serie of videos "a trip into the supernatural" :
"Roger Morneau was involved in demon worship, lived in that world for many months, and escaped alive. He is able to give us inside information about it. It does not conform with popular notes of who parttakes and what the activities are. Roger was elected to be a member of an elite group of demon worshipers. When he was about to be permanently initiated he asked for help from higher powers to leave it alive. Interview with the famous author of the book titled the same."

I put part 1 here:

[youtube:1yb3u12j]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCd0qNbinWI&feature=related[/youtube:1yb3u12j]


Thanks for this video.

As for the Super Natural and spiritual realm,

http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/why_cast_out_demons.php (http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/why_cast_out_demons.php)

Why cast out demons? They don't leave automatically!

It's vital to understand the importance of casting out demons. Some believers assume that demons will automatically leave on their own accord once the legal grounds are removed, but that simply isn't true. I believe there are many times when they do, simply because the demon chooses not to hang around where he has no 'hold' or 'right' to a person, but that is by no means true in every case.

Removing legal grounds isn't always enough.

If demons left automatically when their legal grounds were removed, why didn't Jesus simply tell those who were possessed with demons that their sins were forgiven, as He did with others (Matthew 9:2)? Instead He rebuked demons and commanded them to come out and they often made a big scene when they came out! Wouldn't it be easier to tell them that their sins were forgiven? One time Jesus even said, "For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?" (Matthew 9:5) If you ask me, it would be a LOT easier to say "thy sins be forgiven", than to rebuke demons and have them throw the person to the ground in convulsions, foam at the mouth, scream to the top of a person's lungs, etc. There's a clear purpose in casting out demons, and Jesus' life here on earth was an example for us to learn from (John 14:12, "He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also."), and a large part of His ministry was casting out demons.

We may be cleansed from legal grounds in our lives, but unwelcome guests (evil spirits) may still need to be told to leave. Let's say that you lived in an apartment and had a roommate, but one day you chose to have the place to yourself, so you started paying the full rent for your apartment (so you have full legal rights to live there alone), but where your problem lies is that your stubborn roommate (who no longer has a legal right to live there) refuses to leave. The same principal applies in the spiritual realm when dealing with demons. This is why Jesus gave us authority over demon spirits to cast them out. If demons left on their own accord once their legal grounds are broken, there would be no need to cast them out! But Jesus made it clear that them who believe will be casting out demons (Mark 16:17).

Mark 9:29 also makes it clear that some demons, regardless if their legal grounds are removed or not, require prayer and fasting to drive out, "And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting." Jesus was perfectly capable of forgiving a person's sins when He was here on earth (Luke 7:47), so for Him to tell us that some demons require prayer and fasting to drive out, tells us that demons simply don't leave the moment their legal grounds are removed.

The nature of demons.
It's vital to learn of the nature of demons, because when you realize that they are stubborn and rebellious beings that often need to be TOLD to leave, you'll understand why it's important to cast them out. Let's take a look at some of the tantrums they threw as Jesus cast them out:

In Mark 9:20, we find a story of when a demon was so upset that he had to leave, that he took control over the boy and threw him into a convulsion with foam coming out of his mouth, "And they brought him unto him: and when he saw him, straightway the spirit tore him (took control over the boy and threw him into a convulsion); and he fell on the ground, and wallowed (rolled around) foaming (foam was coming out of his mouth)."

In Luke 9:39, we find another story where a demon threw an awful tantrum as he was driven out, "And, lo, a spirit taketh him, and he suddenly crieth out; and it teareth him (threw the person into a convulsion) that he foameth again, and bruising him hardly (harshly bruising him physically) departeth from him."

Perhaps one of the most common manifestations mentioned in the Bible is found in Mark 1:26, "And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him." Properly interpreted, the word cried here actually refers to screaming. The demon didn't go out quietly, it went out screaming and thew the boy into a convulsion on it's way out!

If demons throw such fits as JESUS Himself cast them out, what makes us think they will peacefully leave on their own accord? What amazes me, is how people expect demons to play nice and leave automatically, but they would never expect a criminal to willfully give up his lifestyle without the authority of policemen stepping in and forcing the man to either change or be cast into prison.

Deliverance was not available in the OT
Back in the OT, once a person picked up a demon, they had to pretty much live with it. The casting out of demons only came on the scene when Jesus arrived on earth and had the authority to cast them out.

In Mark 1:27, we find that the people around Jesus were shocked when they saw Him exercise His authority over evil spirits because they had never seen this happen before, nor was it ever mentioned in all of history, "And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him."

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^^^^This is sorta an explanation of what is a deliverance (casting out of demons) every deliverance and how it is done will be different but, the idea is most definetly the same.

And Yes it is very REAL.
I do have personal experience in a Deliverance and casting out of my own demons. Not fun let me tell ya... :?

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 28, 2010, 02:38:21 PM
Moving along...

Onto the Vatican, Black Pope, Jesuit connections..

Once again connecting tweets to info.

Thisisalmostit tweet:
a black pope?
3:06 AM May 20th via web

This article/interview is lengthy but very informative and worth reading.
I am only highlighting some stuff from the article.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/black-pope1.htm (http://www.illuminati-news.com/black-pope1.htm)

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Martin: What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Jesuits?

Phelps: Their ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with the Pope of their making, from Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. That’s their ultimate goal.

Martin: And why is Solomon’s Temple rebuilt so important?

Phelps: Because the Jesuits have always wanted that. When Ignatius Loyola first started the Order, one of the first things he did was, he wanted to go to Jerusalem and set up the Jesuit headquarters there. So, he went there, he tried to do it and failed, came back, went to school, started his Latin studies, etc. Maybe it might be a good idea to just review a little bit about Ignatius Loyola.

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Martin: Regarding the assassination of President John Kennedy, which could take this entire interview, you say that the assassination was ordered by the Jesuit General, executed by Pope Paul VI, and carried out by the "American Pope", Francis Cardinal Spellman—who, in turn, used the Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, and Mafia Dons, including the FBI and CIA, to carry out the order from Rome. Would you explain why you believe your particular theory on the assassination to be an accurate representation of the facts?

Phelps: Sure. Alright, number one: The powers that be are properly outlined [in his book], and proven through two centuries of showing how it’s all been put together. Now, as to why, I will be conservative and stick with Fletcher Prouty’s reasons, that he outlined in his JFK and also his other book called The Secret Team.

The reason why Kennedy was assassinated was he wanted to end the Vietnam War, and he wanted to end the rule of the CIA. That begets two questions: Did Rome want the Vietnam War? And, did Rome control the CIA? The answer is yes on both counts.

We know, on its face, that the Vietnam War was called "Spelly’s War"—Cardinal Spellman’s war. He went over to the warfront many times and he called the American soldiers the "soldiers of Christ". The man who was the Commander of the American forces was a Roman Catholic, CFR member, possibly a Knight of Columbus, I don’t know, but he was General William Westmoreland.

So, Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s agent to make sure that war was prosecuted properly. And another overseer of Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s boy, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Lyndon Baines Johnson was a 33rd-degree Freemason. He was also part of the assassination, with J. Edgar Hoover, another 33rd-degree Freemason.

And Johnson went to Cardinal Spellman’s death at St. Patrick’s Cathedral, and the picture can be seen in Cooney’s work The American Pope. So, Johnson was completely at the beck and call of Cardinal Spellman through Cartha DeLoach, the 3rd-in-control of the FBI. According to Curt Gentry, in his Hoover: The Man And The Secrets, DeLoach had a phone at his bedside direct to Johnson, and Johnson could call him anytime. DeLoach was a Knight of Malta, subject to Spellman.

Spellman wanted the Vietnam War, why? Spellman was controlled by the Jesuits of Fordham. Why did the Jesuit General want the Vietnam War? The people of Vietnam, the Buddhists, were unconvertible. They would not convert to Catholicism. They didn’t need Rome.

There had been a Jesuit presence in Vietnam for centuries, so it had been decided that about a million or so Buddhists would have to be "purged". They would later continue this purge of Cambodia, with Pol Pot, and the purge is yet for Thailand. It was a purging of Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam of all these Buddhists, just like they purged the Buddhists of China with Mao Zedong, because Mao Zedong was completely controlled by the Jesuits. So, they wanted the Vietnam War.

The other thing is that Rome is in control of the drug trade. The Vatican controls all of the drug trade—all of the heroin, all of the opium, all of the cocaine, everything going around in Columbia.

Columbia has a concordat with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty with the Pope. Hitler had a concordat. Mussolini had a concordat. Franco had a concordat. They want to set up a concordat here, which was the reason for Reagan formally recognizing the sovereign state of Vatican City in 1984. The greatest traitor we ever had was Ronald Reagan.

So, they had a concordat. Columbia has a concordat. Do you think that drugs running out of Columbia, with a country that has a concordat with Rome, is not controlled by Rome? If Rome didn’t want the drug trade out of Columbia, they’d end the concordat. The whole drug trade is run by high Mafia families out of the country of Columbia, subject to the Jesuit General.

And the Jesuit General ran the Opium trade, a couple of centuries ago, out of China. They ran the silk trade, the pearl trade. The movie Shogun is but a slight scratching of the surface of the Jesuit "black ships" that trafficked in all of this silk and pearls and gold and opals and everything they could pull out of the East, including opium.

The Vietnam War was to consolidate and control this huge massive drug-trade that would inundate every American city with drugs, being brought in by the CIA with their Air America, and then distributed by the Trafficante family throughout the United States—Santos Trafficante out of Miami.

So we have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the drug trade. We have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the assassination of Kennedy.

The first reason why the Jesuit General [at that time, Jean-Baptist Janssens] wanted Kennedy out of the way was because he was going to end the Vietnam War.

The second reason is, he wanted to end the reign of the CIA, because the CIA had betrayed him in the person of McGeorge Bundy, by not giving the cover to the Cuban patriots to retake Cuba from that Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained, grease-ball bastard—he was a bastard, his father was a Nazi—Fidel Castro.

Kennedy was betrayed by the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion, which sacrificed all the patriots on the shores of the Bay of Pigs there, so Castro had no real opposition. This was the same tactic, used by the CIA and the KGB at the top, working together with Angleton controlling it, in the Hungarian Revolution, when the CIA fomented that revolution, and then betrayed all of those patriots into the hands of the Soviet army and KGB, which infuriated certain top CIA officials.

It’s the same tactic: you raise up a revolution and you sacrifice the men who truly want to resist. When that happened, when McGeorge Bundy stopped the air cover of the Bay of Pigs invasion, that ended that resistance to Castro and it enthroned him into power. And, of course, it was meant to be by the Jesuits because they HAD trained him. So now Kennedy looks bad. He’s got egg all over his face. What does he want to do? He signs a Memorandum, according to Fletcher Prouty, and takes all of the power away from the CIA, and gives it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The CIA was built by the Knights of Malta. One of the founders of the CIA was "Wild" Bill Donovan, an Irish Roman Catholic, who are the most fanatical, and his brother was a Dominican priest, Vincent. So, the CIA was founded by this high Roman Catholic, the first head, to solidify the Catholic or the Vatican control of it.

I’m not against the Catholic people; I’m against Rome’s hierarchy. The American Catholic people know NOTHING of what’s going on. And if they did, there would be a march on St. Patrick’s tomorrow morning. So, as I’m against the hierarchy, I’m showing that Kennedy was against the Vietnam War, and he was going to do away with the CIA.

Well, the Jesuits had brought in all of their top Nazi SS soldiers into the CIA because the Jesuits were using the SS to kill the Jews in Europe. When the Einsatzgruppen went into Russia, the Jesuits followed with the SS and purged Western Russia of all its Jews. That’s why Stalin deliberately killed 40,000 of his best officers. That’s why he kicked out his best generals, purged them, because he wanted to make sure that the Red Army would lose with the advance of the German army, because following that would come the SS and purge Russia of the Jews that Stalin so hated. And by the way, justice is often poetic because Stalin’s daughter married a Jew.

Now, the CIA was composed of the SS. The CIA now was an arm—and the intelligence arm—of the Vatican. The Knights of Malta were throughout. Casey was a Knight of Malta. Angleton was a Knight of Malta. The Knights were through and through. Angleton manned the "Vatican desk", and that is a desk within the CIA that has a direct link to the Vatican.

So, Kennedy wanted to end this "intelligence community". That was the end of him.

Thus for anyone attempting to end the CIA, and attempting to end the Vietnam War, and also because he attacked the Jesuits’ Federal Reserve Bank by printing United States Notes, they got rid of him. They killed our only Roman Catholic president.

And it’s another piece of poetic justice that a Roman Catholic—not Protestants, like Harry Truman, FDR, and others—it’s a Roman Catholic who truly sought to resist the temporal power of the Pope in this country. And in many ways, even though Kennedy was, in fact, a socialist and communist, at least he resisted the temporal power of the Pope. And for that we should be thankful and remember his name.

But what have they done to his name? They’ve slammed it. They drag it into the dirt. Every time you see it on TV, they parade before you his womanizing, which I don’t deny, but my goodness, can’t we give him some credit where credit is due? That’s why they got rid of John F. Kennedy.

And then, of course, as soon as he’s assassinated, John McCone, the head of the CIA, the following day goes to the White House and they reverse Kennedy’s Memorandum of reversing the Vietnam War and make a full-scale, carte blache war.

The CIA then is tremendously and heavily funded, because it was a CIA war. And there they tried all of their new technology, their anti-gravity machines, their men who they’re trying to make like the "million-dollar man". They tried out all their new technology in Vietnam. It was a great experimental theater, and Kennedy knew this. He knew it, and he knew that the American people had no idea what was going down, and he still tried to resist it, against his father’s warnings. Because his father was the most powerful Knight of Malta in the Empire.

Martin: Any theories on why they took out junior?

Phelps: Yes. According to Tom Kuncle, in his publication, John F. Kennedy, Jr. wanted to find his father’s real killers, and he had the power to publish the conclusion. So, they took him out right away. They would not allow that to happen.

Martin: Why haven’t you been taken out?

Phelps: Because I am immortal—until the Lord is done with me. I am a Calvinist and a Baptist, and we believe in the sovereignty of God. And as long as we are operating in His Will, they cannot touch us, regardless of their power.  ;)

Martin: Which is why we’re having this conversation.

Phelps: Which is why we’re having the conversation. Don’t think for one moment they’re not tapping this phone. They know this. The issue is here. We’re talking about a providential, sovereign God who wishes to move, using second causes, men, just as the Devil does.

The Devil always uses second causes, men. So, it’s one group of men vs. another group of men, and one path leads to evil, and the true, almighty God leads to goodness.

The problem is, with us, there are very few men who want to believe God anymore. Nobody believes He can deliver anymore. It’s just a handful of us who say: "Well, we’re going to do His Will; we’re going to trust Him in His Power."

And like the Hebrews getting ready to be thrown into the fiery furnace of Nebuchadnezzar, our God is able to deliver us. We’re going to tell the truth!

Martin: Let’s see here. I can throw away a lot of these questions. So much of it seems, in a way, irrelevant to our current times because there’s so much going on now. But, good grief! I was just stunned to read in your book of all the historical things that have happened as a result of these evil people. You dedicated the book to four Roman Catholics who, I’m sure, no one has ever heard of: Charles Chiniquy, Jeremiah Crowley, Emmett McLaughlin, and Alberto Rivera. Why them?

Phelps: Because those Roman Catholic men were priests; they left the priesthood and told the truth about what was really happening. And all four of them, except one, I think Emmett McLaughlin, paid with their life. Chiniquy was the great exposer of the Jesuit assassination of President Lincoln, when he wrote his masterpiece Fifty Years In The Church Of Rome in 1886. He proves that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits, and that it was covered-up by our government at the time.

Jeremiah Crowley: that priest was a great Irishman who came here and, seeing the corruption of the Archdiocese in Chicago, that it was so corrupt, he left it and exposed it. And, of course, he later came to Christ and became a Bible-believer, which they would call a Protestant. Protestants today don’t believe the Bible. Protestantism of today is an empty shell, it’s nothing. But, back then, in 1912, they believed the Bible.

Crowley, then, exposed many things, and one of the things he exposed, that helped me with this, was that he warned that the Jesuits, with their Knights of Columbus—which, he says, the Knights of Columbus, named after Columbus, who he tells us was a Spanish Jew and a pirate and a deflowerer of young girls—that Columbus was no Christian.

He has a tremendous section in his book on Columbus. That the purpose of the Knights of Columbus was to fulfill Jesuitical politics, and part of those politics was to restore the temporal power of the Pope because, you remember, the Pope had lost that in 1870 and they wanted to get it back. And they got it back with Mussolini in 1929.

Well, in the book that Crowley wrote in 1912, he says that Taft and Teddy Roosevelt were all cow-towing to the Pope and the Cardinals of New York. And he said they’re going to use our military to restore the Pope’s temporal power around the world.

And THAT was absolutely correct. That is American foreign policy. And the Council of Trent is the American foreign policy of today. That’s what’s going on in Serbia and Bosnia. It’s the Council of Trent—the Jesuits using the American Air Force to bomb those orthodox people to smithereens. But, that was Crowley’s great contribution.

Next, Emmett McLaughlin wrote several books. He wrote The People’s Padre; he wrote Crime And Immorality In The Catholic Church, showing that Catholic nations are more lawless and more criminal than Protestant nations, and he proved it with statistics from the jails.

Emmett McLaughlin also wrote another book called The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln, where he, again, shows that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits. So, Emmett McLaughlin came out of the Catholic Church. To my knowledge, he never was born again. He never was saved, but he did tell the truth. He married a nun, and lived a virtuous and honorable life after he left.

The last one was, of course, Alberto Rivera, who was greatly hated by the Vatican because he was a very high Jesuit who came out and, in the late ’60s, about 1969, exposed the power of Rome in the ecumenical movement, that Rome controlled Kathryn Kuhlman; that Rome controlled Billy Graham; that Rome controlled, virtually, our government—Ronald Reagan.

Reagan, when he took the Oath of Office, faced the obelisk, indicating that this country will ultimately have a concordat. So, Alberto Rivera converted to Christ, wonderfully, and he started a ministry called The Anti-Christ Information Center, out of Los Angeles.

They tried to kill him five times. A dentist jammed a needle up between his teeth, trying to give him an infection in the brain. When he passed out, about a year or so later, they couldn’t figure it out. Everybody was praying for him. And this was discovered when he went to another dentist. He had it removed.

He was pushed in front of a subway train. They tried five times to kill the man, and finally he died, I believe, of cancer, in a hospital, about three years ago. But these four wonderful, great, Catholic priests did their best to expose the power of Rome and its attempts to destroy our sovereign, Protestant, Bible-believing nation. And so, to them, I dedicate it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Jesus)

The Society of Jesus (Latin: Societas Iesu, S.J. and S.I. or SJ, SI) is a religious order of men called Jesuits, who follow the teachings of the Catholic Church. Jesuit priests and brothers — also sometimes known colloquially as "God's marines" — are engaged in evangelization and apostolic ministry in 112 nations on six continents reflecting the Formula of the Institute (principle) of the Society. They are known in the fields of education (schools, colleges, universities, seminaries, theological faculties), intellectual research, and cultural pursuits in addition to missionary work, giving retreats, hospital and parish ministry, promoting social justice and ecumenical dialogue.
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IMO The society of Jesus aka Jesuits, are blasphemy against The One True God and Jesus. They are IMO a group of people who are doing what many before them have done.. used God's name to commit aweful sins.

Wolves in sheep's clothing.

Peace
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Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 28, 2010, 03:21:40 PM
Thanks for this I also read a lot of stuff about the Jesuits and the Vatican.

I came across this I find it interesting:

The trinity of global empire

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There are three cities (city-states) across this planet that share striking similarities and play a crucial role in the global governmental system we have long been living under. The three city-states (along with the role they serve) is as follows:

City of London (finance)

Washington DC (military)

Vatican City (religion)

The aforementioned city-states listed above are sovereign, corporate entities not connected to the nations they appear to be part of. In other words, the City of London (that is the square mile within Greater London) is not technically part of Greater London or England, just as Vatican City is not part of Rome or Italy. Likewise, Washington DC is not part of the United States that it controls.

These sovereign, corporate entities have their own laws and their own identities. They also have their own flags. Seen below is the flag of Washington DC. Note the three stars, representing the trinity of these three city-states, also known as the Empire of the City. (There is also high esoteric significance to the number 3.)

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Washington DC was established as a city-state in 1871 with the passage of the Act of 1871, which officially established the United States as a corporation under the rule of Washington, which itself is subservient to the City of London. Corporations are run by presidents, which is why we call the person perceived to hold the highest seat of power in the land "the president." The fact is the president is nothing more than a figurehead for the central bankers and transnational corporations (both of which themselves are controlled by High Ecclesiastic Freemasonry) that really control this country and ultimately call the shots.

Washington DC operates under a system of Roman Law and outside of the limitations established by the US Constitution. Therefore, it should not be a surprise that the name Capitol Hill derives from Capitoline Hill, which was the seat of government for the Roman Empire. If you look at the wall behind the podium in the House of Representatives, you will notice that on either side of the US flag is the depiction of bundles of sticks tied together with an axe. These are called fasci, hence the root word of fascism. This was the symbol of fascism in the Roman Empire, as it was under the Nazis and still is today. It is not a coincidence that these symbols are featured on the floor of Congress.

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Any American who thinks they are living in a free country does not have a clue.

The fact is that the United States corporation is controlled from the City of London, by the Crown, which is not the British Monarchy as many believe, but rather the private corporation that is the inner 'City of London' itself, also commonly known as "The City" or "The Square Mile." This square mile that makes up the center of Greater London has its own mayor, laws, courts, flag, police force and newspaper. It is the heart of the global financial system.

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Vatican City also has its own mayor (called the Governatorate), laws, flag, postal service, newspaper, radio and television stations, and even its own prison.

Another thing these three city-states have in common are their own obelisks. Obelisks are tall, four-sided shafts of stone which taper at the top in a pyramidal fashion. The obelisk is phallic in its appearance and represents the male penis. It is symbolic of the Egyptian sun god, Ra, and is an ancient symbol of male energy and generation (G) in Freemasonry.

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Vatican obelisk: Located in St. Peter's Square, the Vatican obelisk was moved from Egypt to its current location in 1586. The circle at the base on the obelisk represents the female vagina and thus male/female duality. Also notice the lines extending from the circle, forming a Union Jack as seen on the British flag.

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London obelisk (aka Cleopatra's Needle): Located on the banks of the River Thames, this obelisk was transported to London and erected in 1878 under the reign of Queen Victoria. The obelisk originally stood in the Egyptian city of On, or Heliopolis (the City of the Sun). The Knights Templars' land extended to this area of the Thames, where the Templars had their own docks. Either side of the obelisk is surrounded by a sphinx, also symbolism dating back to the ancient world.

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Washington Obelisk (aka Washington Monument):  Standing at 555 feet, the Washington Monument is the tallest obelisk in the world and also the tallest standing structure in Washington DC. The monument's cornerstone, a 12-ton slab of marble, was donated by the Grand Lodge of Freemasons. Like the Vatican obelisk, the Washington monument too is surrounded by a circle denoting the female. The reflecting pool in front of the monument signifies the ancient Masonic/Kabbalistic dictum, as above/so below.

So how are these three cities ultimately connected? We must first go back to the Knights Templar and their initial 200-year reign of power. The Knights Templar were first called "the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and the Temple of Solomon." This is a blatantly misleading title, considering the immense wealth and power of the Templars, who operated 9,000 manors across Europe and owned all the mills and markets. It was the Templars  that issued the first paper money for public use in Europe, establishing the fiat banking system we know today. In England, the Templars  established their headquarters at a London temple, which still exists today and is called Temple Bar. This is located in the City of London, between Fleet Street and Victoria Embankment. The aforementioned "Crown," to be exact, is the Knights Templar church, also known as the Crown Temple. It is the Crown Temple that controls the legal/court system of the US, Canada and many other countries. All bar associations are directly linked to the International Bar Association and the Inns of Court at Crown Temple in the City of London. Anytime you hear somebody refer to the Bar Association, they are talking about a British/Masonic system that has nothing to do with a country's sovereignty or the constitutional rights of its people. This is why, when you go to court in the US, you see the US flag with a gold fringe, denoting international rule. The government of the United States, Canada and Britain are all subsidiaries of the crown, as is the Federal Reserve in the US. The ruling Monarch in England is also subordinate to the Crown. The global financial and legal system is controlled from the City of London by the Crown. The square mile making up the center of Greater London is the global seat of power, at least at the visible level.

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The Temple Bar consists of what are called Inns of Court. There are four Inns of Court as follows: Inner Temple, Middle Temple, Lincoln's Inn and Gray's Inn. It is believed that the Inner Temple controls the legal system of Canada and Britain while the Middle Temple controls the legal system of the United States, though all Inns are themselves controlled by the same few at the top.

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Most Americans (and people in general) believe the US declared independence from Britain when this is simply not the case. Of the signatories to the Declaration of Independence, at least five of them were Temple Bar attorneys, all of whom had sworn allegiance to the Crown. Alexander Hamilton was one of the Middle Crown agents during the formation of the US and was assigned to set up the American banking system on orders from the Crown, to control the United States. In fact a 'State' is a legal entity of the Crown. This is why we also have the STATE of Israel.

Furthermore, of the members of the Constitutional Convention that signed the completed US Constitution, seven were Middle Inn Templars who had also pledged allegiance to the Crown. Therefore, it is no coincidence that today copies of both the Declaration of Independence and US Constitution hang on the wall in the library of of the Middle Temple in London.

To put it all in context, it is the Crown that controls the global financial system and runs the governments of all Commonwealth countries, and many non-Commonwealth 'Western' nations as well. The Crown traces back to the Vatican, which is headed by the Pope, who is the figurehead for the real powers that be behind the curtain, some of which are known but many of which are completely unknown to the general public.

http://sovereignsentience.blogspot.com/ ... mpire.html (http://sovereignsentience.blogspot.com/2008/12/trinity-of-global-empire.html)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on July 28, 2010, 04:02:08 PM
"The Crown traces back to the Vatican, which is headed by the Pope, who is the figurehead for the real powers that be behind the curtain, some of which are known but many of which are completely unknown to the general public."

Which according to the info I found on The Black Pope (who is The General and the REAL person running the show) these other entities like The President of USA, The Queen Of England, and so on are only puppets and pawns.
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http://www.illuminati-news.com/black-pope1.htm (http://www.illuminati-news.com/black-pope1.htm)
Today, who is the Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called "Black Pope" [black here refers to hidden, evil activities, not to race or color] who gives the orders to the actual Pope. Is it still Jean-Baptist Janssens?

Phelps: Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964. Then Pedro Arrupe came to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I believe, the present Jesuit General is Count Hans Kolvenbach. [See photo nearby.] I call him Count Hans Kolven hoof.

Martin: Let’s discuss this position of "General" and, in addition, who is this person, Count Hans Kolvenbach? Who does he serve? What are his origins? Where does he hail from?

Phelps: The present General is a Dutchman, his nationality is Dutch.

Martin: Where is he? Physically, where is he?

Phelps: He resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the Jesuits, called the Church of Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in Rome at, what I just called, the Jesuit headquarters.

Martin: The Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican?

Phelps: It’s not far from the Vatican, right. It’s in the same general area. It’s headquarters of the Knights of Malta.

Martin: Is it part of Vatican City, proper?

Phelps: Right, I believe, yes it is.

Martin: Where does Satan fit into this picture, and what is the ultimate goal of the Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus?

Phelps: The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals, they are sorcerers. They are Luciferians, and they worship what they would call Lucifer. They do not believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer.

Now, according to Alberto Rivera, he was invited—because he was a top Jesuit at the time in the late ’60s—he was invited to a "Black Mass" in Spain where there were quite a few top Jesuit Generals present. And he called it a "Black Mass". Well, when you’re involved in a "Black Mass", you’re involved in the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their black capes and so on.

Martin: I’m fascinated by Count Hans Kolvenbach because nobody in the world knows who this person is. I’ve never heard the name.

Phelps: Let me just tell you that you can see his picture and his top Jesuits—just a second and I’ll get the book. The name of the book is called Jesuits: A Multi-Biography, by Jean Lacoutre, and that is available, usually, in the bookstores. It was published in 1995.

Jean Lacoutre is a Frenchman. He was a communist, is a communist. On the last page of the pictures in it, that is right adjacent to page 343, you see Peter Hans Kolvenbach. He’s the Jesuit General, and he looks like just a very evil individual. There’s a Black man, who’s a high Jesuit, he’s a 29 Superior Jesuit with his cosmopolitan General staff. One of the General staff looks like Ben Kingsley of Shindler’s List. There are six White men, and one Black man. And that’s his General staff.


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I was roflol at the phallics and um meaning it is a symbol for the penis, so what the hell does that mean? WE are worshipping or under the control of a freakin Penis? lol

Also the Red Plus sign or cross across many of the flags and crests are from the Templar Knights originally.

This to me seems like at the beg. of all of this what started out as GOOD was taken over by EVIL. There still is IMO two sides of these secret orginazations, Good and Evil both using the same names but having different agendas.

It also seems to be leading back to ONE place and ONE thing, Egypt. Jerusalem, God, Jesus, Temple Mount aka (Mount Moriah), Solomon's Temple, Ten Commandments, The ARK.

Oh the Tangled web one weaves when at first he tries to deceive.

Messy.

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: TheRunningGirl on July 28, 2010, 05:08:00 PM
Hi! Sarahli,

I indeed believe that the Obelisk is indeed a symbol of the secret society network.  You will find below additional information linking France into the "global network" you refer to above"
 
1. The French Connection
 
The Statue of Liberty is another Brotherhood symbol highlighting the lighted torch. The Statue of Liberty is actually the Statue of Liberties the liberties perpetrated on the American people by the Brotherhood. There she stands on her island in New York Harbour holding her torch of ‘freedom’ and Americans believe she is the symbol of their liberty in the Land of the Free. Nothing could be further from the truth.
 
The Statue of Liberty was given to New York by French Freemasons and her mirror image stands on an island in the River Seine in Paris (see picture section for this and other symbols in this chapter). These statues of liberty are representations of Queen Semiramis and Isis et al, with the rays of the Sun around her head. The ancients symbolized the Sun in this way. And they are not holding the torch of liberty, but the torch of the illuminated ones, the reptilian-Aryan Elite. The Statue of Liberty is a Brotherhood symbol which says:
“We control this country and we are telling you so, but you are too stupid to see it!”
The torch is the most obvious Brotherhood signature.

When the Brotherhood assassinated President Kennedy in 1963, they put a lighted torch, the eternal flame which has burned to this day, on his grave in the Arlington Cemetery After the murder in Dallas the Freemasons erected an obelisk in Dealey Plaza a few yards from the spot where Kennedy was shot.
 
At the top they placed a depiction of the lighted torch. When Diana, Princess of Wales, was murdered in the Pont de L’Alma Tunnel in Paris, the ‘shrine’ to her, where people left flowers, was a large gold symbol of the very ‘eternal’ flame held by the two Statues of Liberty, which just happened to be on top of the tunnel where her car crashed into the 13th pillar. Just a coincidence! On the island where she is said to be buried, they have placed yet another depiction of a lighted torch. The Brotherhood are telling us that they killed Kennedy and Diana, but unless you understand their symbolic language, you don’t know.
 
2. Brotherhood and Olympic Games

The lighted torch in the Olympic Games has the same meaning. I have to laugh when I see the different cities holding their breath to see which of them has been selected to hold the next Olympics. It was all decided years before, in line with what is most appropriate to the Brotherhood Agenda and its symbolism. You would have thought that the centenary Olympic Games would have been held in its original home of Greece, but instead it was given to Atlanta. Why the hell Atlanta, especially when the United States had only recently hosted the games in Los Angeles?
 
One reason for this decision by the symbol-obsessed Brotherhood was the symbolism of the legendary, Atlanta, the goddess and huntress, who was said to be such a great athlete that no man could beat her. Everyone she defeated in a race had to suffer death and many were killed before one managed to trick her into losing a race by dropping golden apples to divert her attention. It was said that she and her bridegroom were turned into lions and pulled the chariot of the Great Mother of the Gods.1 The Olympic Games in Atlanta also allowed multimillions to be spent on roads and infrastructure in a city reported to be a major centre for the New World Order after the Millennium.

3. The Obelisk of Luxor

The Place de la Concorde is the largest public square in Paris. Situated along the Seine in the 8th arrondissement, it separates the Tuileries Gardens from the beginning of the boulevard Champs-Elysées. (see map) Originally named Place Louis XV, the square was designed by Jacques-Ange Gabriel, Louis XV's architect, for the purpose of showcasing an equestrian statue of the King — which had been commissioned in 1748 by the city of Paris and sculpted by Edmé Bouchardon.
(http://www.discoverfrance.net/France/Images/Paris/Monuments/Obelisque_Luxor_56k.jpg)
        
    
Obélisque de Luxor in the Place de la Concorde. To the left is the beautiful Hôtel Crillon, to the right is l'Hôtel du Ministère de la Marine (Naval Ministry). Between them, in the background, is the Madeleine at the end of rue Royale.
 
Construction of the square began in 1754 and was completed in 1763. It is actually in the shape of an octagon, and was once bordered by large moats which no longer exist. The square marks an intersection of two axes: The major axis is that of the Voie Triomphale (Triumphal Way) which extends east-to-west in a perfectly straight line from the former royal palace (now the Louvre Museum), past the Arc du Carrousel and through the Tuileries Gardens, up the Champs-Elysées to the Arc de Triomphe, and beyond — now culminating at the Grande Arche in the Paris suburb of La Défense. The second (minor) axis is formed by the line between Place de la Madeleine, down rue Royale through the square and across the Pont de la Concorde, culminating at the Palais Bourbon.

Several decades after its construction, this square was to serve as a focal point for the bloodiest political upheaval in the history of France: the French Revolution. When the hordes of revolutionaries seized power, they renamed the square Place de la Révolution, tore down the statue of Louis XV and replaced it with a guillotine. Between 1793 and 1795, more than 1300 people were beheaded in public executions, including Louis XVI, Marie Antoinette, Danton and Robespierre. It is said that the scent of blood was so strong here that a herd of cattle once refused to cross the grounds.

Following the Revolution, the square suffered a series of transformations and several changes of name: place de la Concorde, place Louis XV (again), place Louis XVI, place de la Chartre, and once again place de la Concorde — symbolizing the end of a troubled era and the hope for a better future.

Today, the open-air square still looks quite similar to the way it did in the 1700s, save the actual ground — which now consists of tarmac and cement. Supplanting the guillotine is the powerful Obelisk of Luxor, a pink granite monolith that was given to the French in 1829 by the viceroy of Egypt, Mehemet Ali. The edifice, which once marked the entrance to the Amon temple at Luxor, is more than 3,300 years old and is decorated with hieroglyphics portraying the reigns of the pharaohs Ramses II and Ramses III. Gilded images on the pedestal portray the monumental task of transporting the monolith to Paris and erecting it at the square. Installed in 1833, the Obelisk — weighing 230 tons and standing 22.83 meters (75 ft) high in the center of the Place — is flanked on both sides by two fountains constructed during the same period. Having survived more than 33 centuries, the Obelisk has suffered the greatest damage during the past half-century by air pollution from industry and motor vehicles.

With L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 29, 2010, 05:58:20 AM
@Im_convincedmjalive

"I was roflol at the phallics and um meaning it is a symbol for the penis, so what the hell does that mean? WE are worshipping or under the control of a freakin Penis? lol"

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  I myself was like huh ! What is that !  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  I don't know about the symbolism these people have crazy ideas and rituals (talking about the Illuminati, freemasons, pagans...not the blog owner 8-) ).

As you said many points tend to come back again each time we make a research, the Knights Templar, the Vatican, the Jesuits, London, Egypt, the Ark...it's not a coincidence.

@TheRunninGirl

Thank you what you have brought completes what I have found ;) . I forgot about the Paris' obelisk and the Statue of Liberty. Even if Paris is not part of the 3 cities empire we know who controls. Makes me think of the museum le Louvres and it's pyramid shape.

(http://www.ambafrance-uk.org/IMG/jpg_louvres2.jpg)
(http://www.casino770.com/blog/media/cover-pyramide_du_louvre.jpg)

The next Olympics are to be held in London in 2012. London again...

(http://vulgariz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/londres-2012.jpg)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: ROFL on July 29, 2010, 08:10:54 AM
Sarahli and you know what La Pyramide du Louvre has 666 windows ....
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on July 29, 2010, 08:56:09 AM
Quote from: "ROFL"
Sarahli and you know what La Pyramide du Louvre has 666 windows ....
No I didn't know that ! Thanks for the information  :shock: .
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on August 01, 2010, 03:21:38 PM
2012

Plot

In 2009, Dr. Adrian Helmsley, an American geologist visits astrophysicist Dr. Satnam Tsurutani in India and learns that neutrinos from a massive solar flare are causing the temperature of the Earth's core to increase rapidly. Adrian informs White House Chief of Staff Carl Anheuser and United States President Thomas Wilson that this will trigger a catastrophic chain of natural disasters. In 2010, Wilson, along with other international leaders, begins a massive, secret project intended to ensure that humanity survives. Approximately 400,000 people are chosen to board ships called "arks" that are constructed at Cho Ming, Tibet in the Himalayas. Additional funding for the project is raised by selling tickets to the private sector for €1 billion per person. By 2011, they start to secretly move humanity's valuable treasures to the Himalayas under the guise of protecting them from terrorist attacks, so that their history can survive when the end comes.

In 2012, Jackson Curtis is a science fiction writer in Los Angeles who works part-time as a limousine driver for Russian billionaire Yuri Karpov. Jackson's ex-wife Kate and their children Noah and Lily live with Kate's boyfriend, plastic surgeon and amateur pilot, Gordon Silberman. Jackson takes Noah and Lily camping in Yellowstone National Park, where they meet Charlie Frost, who hosts a radio show from the park. Charlie references a theory that suggests the Mesoamerican Long Count Calendar predicts that the 2012 phenomenon is going to occur. He has a map of the ark project in addition to information of government officials and scientists from around the world who were murdered after discovering information about the ark project and trying to alert the general public. The family returns home as seismic activity vastly increases along the US West Coast. Jackson grows suspicious and rents a plane to rescue his family. He collects his family and Gordon as the Earth crust displacement begins, and they narrowly escape Los Angeles using a Cessna 340 as the city sinks into the Pacific Ocean.

As millions die in cataclysmic earthquakes worldwide, the group flies to Yellowstone to retrieve Charlie's map, escaping as the Yellowstone Caldera erupts. Remaining at his site to broadcast the eruption, Charlie is killed in the blast. Learning the arks are in China, the group lands in Las Vegas, which has a huge fissure running through the airport's runway. Here, they meet Yuri, his twin sons, girlfriend Tamara and pilot Sasha. The group secures the Antonov 225 aircraft and departs for China. Also heading for the arks aboard Air Force One are Anheuser, Helmsley, and First Daughter Laura Wilson. President Wilson chooses to remain in Washington D.C. and is soon killed by a megatsunami which sends the USS John F. Kennedy crashing into the White House. With the Vice President also dead and the Speaker of the House missing, Anheuser assumes de facto leadership of the United States of America, although he is not in the line of succession.

Arriving in China in a crash landing that kills Sasha, the group is then spotted by the Chinese People's Liberation Army. Yuri and his sons, possessing tickets, are taken to the arks. The Curtis family, Gordon, and Tamara, none of whom possess tickets, are picked up by Nima, a Buddhist monk on his way to the arks. They stowaway with the help of Nima's brother, Tenzin, who has been working on the ark project. A megatsunami approaches the site as tens of thousands of people are attempting to board the final ark, when a large impact driver becomes lodged between the gears of the ark's hydraulics chamber, preventing a boarding gate from closing and rendering the ship unable to start its engines. In the ensuing chaos, Yuri, Gordon and Tamara are killed, Tenzin is wounded and the flooding ark is set adrift. Jackson and Noah free the impact driver from the closing mechanism, and the crew regains control of the ark, preventing a fatal collision with Mount Everest.

One month later, after floodwaters from the tsunamis have receded, three arks set sail for the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa, where the Drakensberg Mountains have risen in relation to sea level. Jackson reconciles with his family and Adrian starts a relationship with Laura. The Earth is shown from space, revealing a radically changed continental landscape.

Marketing

On November 12, 2008, the new studio released the first teaser trailer for 2012 that showed a tsunami surging over the Himalayas and interlaced a purportedly scientific message suggesting that the world would end in 2012, and that the world's governments were not preparing its population for the event. The trailer ended with a message to viewers to "find out the truth" by searching "2012" on search engines. The Guardian criticized the marketing effectiveness as "deeply flawed" and associated it with "websites that make even more spurious claims about 2012".

The studio also launched a viral marketing website operated by the fictional Institute for Human Continuity, where filmgoers could register for a lottery number to be part of a small population that would be rescued from the global destruction. David Morrison of NASA received over 1000 inquiries from people who thought the website was genuine, and condemned it. "I've even had cases of teenagers writing to me saying they are contemplating suicide because they don't want to see the world end," he said. "I think when you lie on the internet and scare children to make a buck, that is ethically wrong." Another viral marketing website promotes Farewell Atlantis, a fictional suspense novel by the film's lead protagonist, about the events of 2012.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_%28film%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_%28film%29)


The end is just the beginning...
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on August 01, 2010, 03:30:47 PM
:ugeek:

So yesterday I was doing some more digging around and I was reading up on Solomon,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon)
"The Hebrew Bible credits Solomon as the builder of the First Temple in Jerusalem"

 :geek: and his supposed affair with Queen of Sheba :geek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Sheba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Sheba)
The Queen of Sheba was a monarch of the ancient kingdom of Sheba and is referred to in Habeshan history, the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament, and the Qur'an. She is widely assumed to have been a queen regnant, although there is no historical proof of this; in fact, she may have been a queen consort.
The location of her historical kingdom most likely included part of modern day Ethiopia and Eritrea,and perhaps Yemen as well.

 :geek:  And supposedly Solomon and Queen of Sheba had a son :geek:  

"An ancient compilation of Ethiopian legends, Kebra Negast ('the Glory of Kings'), is dated to seven hundred years ago and relates a history of Makeda and her descendants. In this account King Solomon is said to have seduced the Queen of Sheba and sired her son, Menelik I, who would become the first Emperor of Ethiopia."

 :geek:
And that is supposedly how The Ark of the Covenant got to the Church in Ethiopia, the same church that claims to have it and was going to reveal it to the world.

I then found this website and I agree with the final statements.
http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_issues4.php (http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_issues4.php)

The Forgotten Ark
Regardless of what happened to the Ark, the Scriptures suggest that it will never be found again. This comes as quite a shock to some Christians who have assumed that the Ark must be found before the Tribulation Temple can be built and animal sacrifice re-instituted. Others have simply assumed that the Ark would be replaced in the Holy of Holies when the Lord's Millennial Temple is built.

But Jeremiah says point blank that "the ark of the covenant of the Lord... shall not come to mind, nor shall they remember it, nor shall they miss it, nor shall it be made again" (Jeremiah 3:16). The context of this passage is the Millennial reign of Jesus, so it does not rule out the possibility of a discovery prior to that time. Conceivably, the Ark could be discovered, and Satan could use its discovery to incite the rebuilding of a Temple where an apostate sacrificial system would be re-instituted. We know that such a Temple will be built, but I doubt if its construction will be motivated by the discovery of the Ark.

The Non-Essential Ark
The important point to keep in mind here is that the rediscovery of the Ark is not essential to the rebuilding of the Temple. After all, the Temple was rebuilt by Zerubbabel following the Babylonian captivity, and the Ark had already been lost by that time. There was no Ark in the Holy of Holies during the time when Jesus worshiped in the Temple.

Nor is the Ark needed for the Millennial Temple. Ezekiel describes the Temple in great detail (chapters 40-42), and he never mentions the Ark. There is a Holy of Holies (Ezekiel 41:4), but it is empty, and it is not separated from the Holy Place by a veil.

Jesus has already entered the heavenly Holy of Holies in our behalf (Hebrews 4:14-16, 8:1-6). He has torn away the veil that separated us from God, and He serves as our High Priest, having offered His own blood as the perfect sacrifice for our sins (Hebrews 9:11-16). He serves as our Mediator before the Father's throne (Hebrews 9:24-28).

Thus, during the Millennium, there will be no need for a human high priest or an Ark with a mercy seat. Jesus will serve as both king and high priest, and in that capacity, He will continue to serve as humanity's mercy seat. (Zechariah 6:12-13).

The True Ark
With regard to this concept of Christ as our mercy seat, let me add a penetrating insight which I picked up from John MacArthur, one of this country's greatest preachers. He pointed to a simple historical verse that contains a profound truth about Jesus being our mercy seat.

The verse is John 20:12. Speaking of Mary looking into the empty tomb of Jesus, the verse says, "she beheld two angels in white sitting, one at the head, and one at the feet, where the body of Jesus had been lying." What Mary saw, MacArthur observed, was the new mercy seat, the perfect mercy seat.

Consider again what Mary saw. She witnessed two angels, one sitting at each end of the slab which had held the broken body of our Lord. That scene points us back to the Ark of the Covenant where two cherubim hovered over its blood splattered mercy seat!

There is no more need for the Ark. Jesus has fulfilled all that the Ark stood for. He was deity who took on flesh. He rendered complete obedience to the Law, being made perfect and becoming the source of our salvation (Hebrews 5:8-9). His blood was shed for our sins, and His victory is attested by the fact and the power of His resurrection.

Just as the Ark was designed to be a symbol of the presence of God in the midst of His people, Jesus is the ultimate expression of God's love and care and presence. He is our Ark. He is our Law. He is our Manna. He is our Budded Rod. And, thank God, He is our Mercy Seat.


Peace
 :ugeek:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on August 02, 2010, 12:19:13 AM
funny that all of this is in the videos I made about Michael and the connections to Egypt. the ark, the obelisks, the Vatican, the Louvre etc. I also made one with the connections between Michael and the movie 2012.
Synchronicity?

All Roads lead to Egypt 1 of 11

[youtube:il5onlfx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd6Jdz0fSAY[/youtube:il5onlfx]

"2012" The Movie & Michael Jackson's Death Hoax  

[youtube:il5onlfx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3Dni7wXMNY[/youtube:il5onlfx]
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on August 02, 2010, 03:44:06 AM
I think that if a non-material ark exists, let's say a spiritual ark, it is faith in God and the follow of His law. I say that because while thinking about 2012, the movie, floods and tsunamis and earthquakes and thinking about ancient civilizations that have been destroyed for disobeying God, I was telling myself that only God can save us from a 2012 scenario. So faith in God is the spiritual ark that will save our souls, even if we die, I'm talking about the afterlife too  8-) .

Thank you Serenity for your great vids, there are no coincidences !  ;)

Now I don't know where is the Ark of the Covenant, it existed this is certain but by reading the Quran it is never mentionned if it will be discovered again before the end of times. But I thought about something, the story of Saul who's been chosen to be King. The Ark of the Covenant was the sign from God that Saul has been chosen...so I told myself that history can repeat itself and that Michael (Prince Michael) if he is really a messenger of God (an official one  ;) ) then maybe that hmmm the Ark will be the sign...Maybe that Michael already has the Ark and that his return will be the true announcement of the discovery of the true Ark...sounds crazy I know.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on August 05, 2010, 05:15:54 AM
Einstein and Poleshifts

His idea is original, of great simplicity, and—if it continues to prove itself—of great importance to everything that is related to the history of the earth’s surface.” – Einstein

Upon learning of Charles Hapgood’s pole-shift theory, Einstein was struck by the possibility of explaining the history of Earth’s surface. Inspect a letter Einstein wrote to Charles Hapgood and read the famous scientist's introduction to Hapgood's book The Path of the Pole. The English translations are below and his original writings are to the right. (go to the site to see them)

November 24, 1952
Mr. Charles H. Hapgood
2 Allerton Street
Provincetown, Mass.

Dear Sir:
I have read already some years ago in a popular article about the idea that excentric masses of ice, accumulated near a pole, could produce from time to time considerable dislocations of the floating rigid crust of the earth. I have never occupied myself with this problem but my impression is that a careful study of this hypothesis is really desirable.

I think that our factual knowledge of the underlying facts is at present not precise enough for a reliable answer based exclusively on calculations. Knowledge of geological and paleontological facts may be of decisive importance in the matter. In any case, it would not be justified to discard the idea a priori as adventurous.

The question whether high pressure may not be able to produce fusion of nuclei is also quite justified. It is not known to me if a quantitative theory has been worked out by astrophysicists. The action of pressure would not be a static effect as classical mechanics would suggest, but a kinetic effect corresponding not to temperature but to degeneracy of gases of high density. You should correspond about this with an astro-phycisist experienced in quantum theory, f.i. Dr. L. Schwarzschild at the Princeton University Observatory.

Sincerely yours,

Albert Einstein.


Foreword to the First Edition
by Albert Einstein

I frequently receive communications from people who wish to consult me concerning their unpublished ideas. It goes without saying that these ideas are very seldom possessed of scientific validity. The very first communication, however, that I received from Mr. Hapgood electrified me. His idea is original, of great simplicity, and—if it continues to prove itselfof great importance to everything that is related to the history of the earth’s surface.

A great many empirical data indicate that at each point on the earth’s surface that has been carefully studied, many climatic changes have taken place, apparently quite suddenly. This, according to Hapgood, is explicable if the virtually rigid outer crust of the earth undergoes, from time to time, extensive displacement over the viscous, plastic, possibly fluid inner layers. Such displacements may take place as the consequence of comparatively slight forces exerted on the crust, derived from the earth’s momentum of rotation, which in turn will tend to alter the axis of rotation, which in turn will tend to alter the axis of rotation of the earth’s crust.

In a polar region there is continual deposition of ice, which is not symmetrically distributed about the pole. The earth’s rotation acts on these unsymmetrically deposited masses, and produces centrifugal momentum that is transmitted to the rigid crust of the earth. The constantly increasing centrifugal produced in this way will, when it has reached a certain point, produce a movement of the earth’s crust over the rest of the earth’s body, and this will displace the polar regions toward the equator.

Without a doubt the earth’s crust is strong enough not to give way proportionately as the ice is deposited. The only doubtful assumption is that the earth’s crust can be moved easily enough over the inner layers.

The author has not confined himself to a simple presentation of this idea. He has also set forth, cautiously and comprehensively, the extraordinarily rich material that supports his displacement theory. I think that this rather astonishing, even fascinating, idea deserves the serious attention of anyone who concerns himself with the theory of the earth’s development.

To close with an observation that has occurred to me while writing these lines: If the earth’s crust is really so easily displaced over its substratum as this theory requires, then the rigid masses near the earth’s surface must be distributed in such a way that they give rise to displace the crust by centrifugal effect. I think that this deduction might be capable of verification, at least approximately. This centrifugal momentum should in any case be smaller than that produced by the masses of deposited ice.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/c ... h-einstein (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/channel/ends-of-the-earth-einstein)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on September 03, 2010, 06:06:56 AM
Just wanted to say that I dreamt that an asteroid hit the planet  :D  

hope it will not happen of course... :?
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: TinkerBell_777 on September 03, 2010, 07:28:46 AM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Just wanted to say that I dreamt that an asteroid hit the planet  :D  

hope it will not happen of course... :?

You're cute  :) ! I hope it will not happen either, I also have nightmares about the attack on Iran and WW3.. i guess we're too connected to our fears  :?

Keep the faith!

LOVE,
Andy
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on September 03, 2010, 07:33:39 AM
Quote from: "TinkerBell_777"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Just wanted to say that I dreamt that an asteroid hit the planet  :D  

hope it will not happen of course... :?

You're cute  :) ! I hope it will not happen either, I also have nightmares about the attack on Iran and WW3.. i guess we're too connected to our fears  :?

Keep the faith!

LOVE,
Andy

Yes maybe that it's just a nightmare, thing is that I had no fear in my dream. But well maybe that the discussion about world wars impacted on my mind, hope so. God bless you Andy. :)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on September 03, 2010, 02:17:57 PM
Quote from: "ROFL"
Sarahli and you know what La Pyramide du Louvre has 666 windows ....


 :shock: Really!  :o
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: angel on September 03, 2010, 10:42:09 PM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
:ugeek:

So yesterday I was doing some more digging around and I was reading up on Solomon,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon)
"The Hebrew Bible credits Solomon as the builder of the First Temple in Jerusalem"

 :geek: and his supposed affair with Queen of Sheba :geek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Sheba (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Sheba)
The Queen of Sheba was a monarch of the ancient kingdom of Sheba and is referred to in Habeshan history, the Hebrew Bible, the New Testament, and the Qur'an. She is widely assumed to have been a queen regnant, although there is no historical proof of this; in fact, she may have been a queen consort.
The location of her historical kingdom most likely included part of modern day Ethiopia and Eritrea,and perhaps Yemen as well.

 :geek:  And supposedly Solomon and Queen of Sheba had a son :geek:  

"An ancient compilation of Ethiopian legends, Kebra Negast ('the Glory of Kings'), is dated to seven hundred years ago and relates a history of Makeda and her descendants. In this account King Solomon is said to have seduced the Queen of Sheba and sired her son, Menelik I, who would become the first Emperor of Ethiopia."

 :geek:
And that is supposedly how The Ark of the Covenant got to the Church in Ethiopia, the same church that claims to have it and was going to reveal it to the world.

I then found this website and I agree with the final statements.
http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_issues4.php (http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_issues4.php)

The Forgotten Ark
Regardless of what happened to the Ark, the Scriptures suggest that it will never be found again. This comes as quite a shock to some Christians who have assumed that the Ark must be found before the Tribulation Temple can be built and animal sacrifice re-instituted. Others have simply assumed that the Ark would be replaced in the Holy of Holies when the Lord's Millennial Temple is built.

But Jeremiah says point blank that "the ark of the covenant of the Lord... shall not come to mind, nor shall they remember it, nor shall they miss it, nor shall it be made again" (Jeremiah 3:16). The context of this passage is the Millennial reign of Jesus, so it does not rule out the possibility of a discovery prior to that time. Conceivably, the Ark could be discovered, and Satan could use its discovery to incite the rebuilding of a Temple where an apostate sacrificial system would be re-instituted. We know that such a Temple will be built, but I doubt if its construction will be motivated by the discovery of the Ark.

The Non-Essential Ark
The important point to keep in mind here is that the rediscovery of the Ark is not essential to the rebuilding of the Temple. After all, the Temple was rebuilt by Zerubbabel following the Babylonian captivity, and the Ark had already been lost by that time. There was no Ark in the Holy of Holies during the time when Jesus worshiped in the Temple.

Nor is the Ark needed for the Millennial Temple. Ezekiel describes the Temple in great detail (chapters 40-42), and he never mentions the Ark. There is a Holy of Holies (Ezekiel 41:4), but it is empty, and it is not separated from the Holy Place by a veil.

Jesus has already entered the heavenly Holy of Holies in our behalf (Hebrews 4:14-16, 8:1-6). He has torn away the veil that separated us from God, and He serves as our High Priest, having offered His own blood as the perfect sacrifice for our sins (Hebrews 9:11-16). He serves as our Mediator before the Father's throne (Hebrews 9:24-28).

Thus, during the Millennium, there will be no need for a human high priest or an Ark with a mercy seat. Jesus will serve as both king and high priest, and in that capacity, He will continue to serve as humanity's mercy seat. (Zechariah 6:12-13).

The True Ark
With regard to this concept of Christ as our mercy seat, let me add a penetrating insight which I picked up from John MacArthur, one of this country's greatest preachers. He pointed to a simple historical verse that contains a profound truth about Jesus being our mercy seat.

The verse is John 20:12. Speaking of Mary looking into the empty tomb of Jesus, the verse says, "she beheld two angels in white sitting, one at the head, and one at the feet, where the body of Jesus had been lying." What Mary saw, MacArthur observed, was the new mercy seat, the perfect mercy seat.

Consider again what Mary saw. She witnessed two angels, one sitting at each end of the slab which had held the broken body of our Lord. That scene points us back to the Ark of the Covenant where two cherubim hovered over its blood splattered mercy seat!

There is no more need for the Ark. Jesus has fulfilled all that the Ark stood for. He was deity who took on flesh. He rendered complete obedience to the Law, being made perfect and becoming the source of our salvation (Hebrews 5:8-9). His blood was shed for our sins, and His victory is attested by the fact and the power of His resurrection.

Just as the Ark was designed to be a symbol of the presence of God in the midst of His people, Jesus is the ultimate expression of God's love and care and presence. He is our Ark. He is our Law. He is our Manna. He is our Budded Rod. And, thank God, He is our Mercy Seat.


Peace
 :ugeek:


Thank you, Im_convincedmjalive.  Excellent post!
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXRuK_SJ ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXRuK_SJmv0&feature=related)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on September 04, 2010, 02:20:38 AM
I want to thank you Im_convincedmjalive and Sarahli, for all your detailed and informative posts. I hadn't been here for a while and there was sooo much to catch up on. Wow!

I agree there is no more need for the ark, because it went together with a physical temple, which was replaced by Christ and His body of believers. The book of Hebrews talks about God's temple and ark being in heaven. God had both earthly temples destroyed because of His plans for the true black Israelites to be dispersed away from their land (they will only return after the Messiah comes again), and if there still is an ark somewhere, perhaps it's meant to be destroyed as well. (The Jews living in the land today are Ashkenazi from Khazaria converts to Judaism around 900 AD., and Edomites, descendants of Esau who was the twin brother to Jacob who was the father of the 12 sons and tribes of Israel. They have an important role to play in God's plan of history, as we all do, and all are loved by God.)

Something always has stuck in my mind, that in the movie MJ played a small part in Miss Cast Away and the Island Girls, he, as Agent MJ,  said several times that the ark must be destroyed. I know it was a silly movie and the ark in this case was Noah's ark, but I'm thinking there is an underlying meaning as well. The announcement of the Ethiopean church that they would reveal the ark to the world on June 25, and then retracted, may have all been pre-planned, just to give connection of Michael to Biblical history and end-times. And it may in fact be God who is actually orchestrating the overall MJ hoax, as there is profound interconnectedness to layers of events, people, names, numbers, symbols, etc. almost beyond human ability. IMO

Just an added note to the talk above about the obelisks (phalluses). That also includes the traditional church steeples as well. Many pagan and Catholic traditions in the Protestant church.[attachment=0:25j9f4r0]Steeple.jpg[/attachment:25j9f4r0]

No matter how scary and catastrophic events on earth become in the years ahead, we can be sure that God is in control, not Satan or evil aliens/demons. He is the Creator of good and evil, and has created all atoms in the universe for His glory and pleasure, including humans and "aliens". When He chooses to lift the veil covering people's eyes of understanding, He will. It's good for us to have knowledge and believe, but all faith comes from God, according to His time-table. In the very end evil may actually merge with the good, at the consummation or summing up of all things in God. All history is God's story, His story. "All the world's a stage." God is the One behind the curtain. I believe in the resurrection in 2 parts, the first one are all those elected to have faith now (the first fruits), and a thousand years later the vast majority whose eyes and hearts God will open and give faith (the main general harvest). God created all humans (sons and daughters of God) to be heirs to future thrones, but history will prepare us and gives us knowledge of good and evil, and wisdom. Who knows maybe we will each have our own planet to rule over--it's an incredibly vast universe! This is the big picture that my personal study and heart has led me to believe. I absolutely confidently have come to believe there is no literal hell, and no such thing as free will, clearly shown in the Bible, with an deep comparative study of the Bible.

What our Michael's role in all of this is, I'm not sure, but I believe it will be especially significant, as I have written elsewhere. I have grown so much and learned so much here, over the course of this last year, and have been thrilled to pieces, :) studying about MJ and his hoax, and reading everyone's posts!
Title: Doomsday: 2012
Post by: MJFakeDeath on September 04, 2010, 02:53:18 PM
[font=][font=][font=][font=][font=][font=][font=]The End is almost here. December 21,2012 is doomsday. I think there will be a solar flare that will hit and get trapped in the magnetosephere and then cause the core to start shiftng. There will be earthquakes, valcanic eruptions, and mega tsunamis. It will be hell on earth This is Michael's message.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on September 04, 2010, 04:14:17 PM
MJonmind, thank YOU  ;)  Regarding the Ark I don't know what to think, it seems to be connected with Michael and TS seems to have answers because if he didn't mentionned it I wouldn't have made the link Michael/Ark of the Covenant, at this point I just wait and see.

I also believe that God is in full control of everything and that things happen for a reason and in such an eloborated plan that it just cannot be comprehended by a human mind. Our awareness and consciousness are obviously limited. Maybe that 2012 will be this new world, a step above in the comprehension of life, maybe that we will be granted a sixth sense. And as MJFakeDeath says there will be great disasters before it happens, I believe that it will not be a 'smooth' transition. Nevertheless I don't think that it will be the real end of the world or Judgement Day (my personal belief is that Doomsday, the REAL end will be in the year 2280 as explained in my earlier post). To me 2012 or the years after (maybe 2013 or 2014 who knows) will be about retribution. But I insist this is just my viewpoint it's not a truth that I'm claiming here. Because 2012 can also be about the establishment of the NWO which in itself equals a new world and what a world  :cry: .  That's why we have to keep the faith and be ready for the fight! May God help us.

What intrigues me a lot is how Michael is so sure that the end of the world will happen in 2012? I mean that I am in admiration of TS' posts about this subject because he just says it plain and clear knowing that not everybody believes in God, and TS speaks for Michael so I really admire Michael for what he's doing, it's very rare, God bless him. But I still ask myself what does make him (Michael) so self-confident in claiming that it will happen in 2012? Does he has information from above?  :?  Does Michael think that Judgement Day is imminent or that 2012 is about a new earth? New earth not meaning heaven in my mind. I really would like to know more about Michael's deep beliefs, it's important for me to know. Well again I just can wait and see, maybe more clues will come and the most important is to fight the devil all together!
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on September 09, 2010, 06:10:13 AM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Just wanted to say that I dreamt that an asteroid hit the planet  :D  

hope it will not happen of course... :?

Don't know if it was that one...

Colombia: 'Giant fireball' was a meteorite
http://colombiareports.com/colombia-new ... ombia.html (http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/11683-giant-fire-ball-falls-from-the-sky-in-central-colombia.html)

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... ead=182520 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=182520)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on September 14, 2010, 10:53:26 AM
I came across something interesting regarding 2012 and the Quran. In reality it didn't just came across by chance I actually asked God to make me discover something new about this specific subject when I turned on my computer last week-end...and I found that
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2010/09/11 ... tastrophe/ (http://www.pakalertpress.com/2010/09/11/quran-and-2012-evidence-hints-at-event-types-and-locations-of-2012-catastrophe/).

Okay there is a chapter in the Quran named "Most Gracious" (the person in the linked site I gave calls it "The Gracious" well it's all about interpretation and here it is very light...but it's not the relevant information here).

The funny thing is that last week (or the week after I don't exactly remember) I was reading this exact chapter, it was not the first time but that day something kept on bugging me and I was reading it with Michael's hoax in my mind and the possible reasons and 2012.

First you have to read this chapter to understand http://www.submission.org/suras/sura55.html (http://www.submission.org/suras/sura55.html), when done you will soon notice that one verse is repeated several times. And this is what I was trying to understand last week making calculations. I was telling myself that there must be a reason as to why God repeats this verse several times (Chapter 55):

"Which of your Lord's marvels can you deny?"

This verse is repeated 31 times and each verse is numbered as follow in the chapter in question:
13, 16, 18, 21, 23, 25, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 45, 47, 49, 51, 53, 55, 57, 59, 61, 63, 65, 67, 69, 71, 73, 75, 77

Now when you add all these numbers you obtain 1433. You can tell me so what? The thing is that surprisingly (or not after all) 1431AH is the actual year of the Islamic (lunar) calendar and 1431AH = 2010AD, so the number we've found by adding the number of verses,1433, can really be a reference to 2012 because 1431+2 =1433AH (2012AD). I personally just find this information to be amazing!

More intriguing and what validates the fact that 1433 can really be about a year and not a random number is that the chapter in question contains 355 words (the original arabic version has to be taken to make this calculation, not the translation) and 355 appears to be the exact numbers of a lunar year! So this proves that 1433 = lunar year = 2012AD ! I just find this incredible, this cannot be a coincidence.

A lunar year is 354 or 355 days and it appears that in 2012 it will be 355 days (I've not really been able to check this info but the theory is still available).

So 355 words for 355 days... Let's follow this logic of number of words = number of days and go back to the verse in question. This verse has 4 words and is repeated 31 times. What kind of conclusion can we make of this? Now it's more about speculations of what could happen in 2012:

- can it be about 31 similar events lasting 4 days each?

- Using the numbers: the 1433rd letter in the Quran falls in the word "stone" in this verse:

"[2:24] If you cannot do this - and you can never do this - then beware of the Hellfire, whose fuel is people and rocks; it awaits the disbelievers."

So can it be that meteorites will shower the earth? (I say that because I dreamt about the crash of an asteroid (or meteorite)...).

There may be other interpretations as to the how and what, but something is definitely going to happen in 2012.

Tel me what you think.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on September 14, 2010, 02:19:23 PM
I wanted to add this in relation to my post above. There was an article on the daily Express "EARTHQUAKE TRAINING FOR POLICE" see topic viewtopic.php?f=90&t=14093 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=14093) in this article they also talk about a meteor strike... :?

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/198567 (http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/198567)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on September 22, 2010, 12:46:56 PM
Excellent posts on this thread...although I found myself way over my head more times than I can count!  :?  
I have nothing to contribute other than this:

Did you know 777 = Christ?
http://www.spiritcommunity.com/dreams/b (http://www.spiritcommunity.com/dreams/b) ... rs_ref.php
This can be seen on Micheal's armband in the HIStory video. And after all, isn't the Bible really HIS story? ie. God's L.O.V.E. letter to us & the world?.. Back to the Ark & 777 again. Christ is our ARK and is now in heaven awaiting his Second Coming. He's our High Priest, Mercy Seat, The Alpha & Omega.  He paid the price.  It is finished. :D

Seven - THE NUMBER OF SPIRITUAL PERFECTION. Seven days in a week. Seven colors in the spectrum. Seven of the 10 commandments begin with the word "not." There are 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 parables in Matthew, and 7 promises to the churches. There are 7 "eternal s" in Hebrews which are: A priest for ever (1:6); Eternal salvation (1:9); Eternal judgment (6:2); eternal redemption (9:12); eternal spirit (9:14); eternal inheritance (9:15); and everlasting covenant (13:20). Jesus said 7 things on the cross: 1) Luke 23:34 "Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots; 2) Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise"; 3) Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" -- which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"; 4) John 19:26 "When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son"; 5) John 19:28 "Later, knowing that all was now completed, and so that the Scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, "I am thirsty." 6) John 19:30 "When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit"; and 7) Luke 23:46 "Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last." "Hallelujah" occurs 28 times or 4 x 7. "Hosanna" occurs 7 times. "Milk" occurs 49 times or 7 x 7. "Abaddon" occurs 7 times. "After the order of Melchizedek" occurs 7 times. In the Hebrew, seven ([b'v, - Sheh'-bah) is from a root word meaning to be complete or full. This can be clearly seen from the first time a varient of this word is used in the Bible.

Peace to all
 :D

PS

Why 2012?  
Perhaps it's a leftover from MJ's JW background.  My father is a Jehovah Witness and he's CONSTANTLY talking about 2012 being the end of this world and all False Religion.
 
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on September 22, 2010, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: "MsTrinity333"
Excellent posts on this thread...although I found myself way over my head more times than I can count!  :?  
I have nothing to contribute other than this:

Did you know 777 = Christ?
http://www.spiritcommunity.com/dreams/b (http://www.spiritcommunity.com/dreams/b) ... rs_ref.php
This can be seen on Micheal's armband in the HIStory video. And after all, isn't the Bible really HIS story? ie. God's L.O.V.E. letter to us & the world?.. Back to the Ark & 777 again. Christ is our ARK and is now in heaven awaiting his Second Coming. He's our High Priest, Mercy Seat, The Alpha & Omega.  He paid the price.  It is finished. :D

Seven - THE NUMBER OF SPIRITUAL PERFECTION. Seven days in a week. Seven colors in the spectrum. Seven of the 10 commandments begin with the word "not." There are 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 parables in Matthew, and 7 promises to the churches. There are 7 "eternal s" in Hebrews which are: A priest for ever (1:6); Eternal salvation (1:9); Eternal judgment (6:2); eternal redemption (9:12); eternal spirit (9:14); eternal inheritance (9:15); and everlasting covenant (13:20). Jesus said 7 things on the cross: 1) Luke 23:34 "Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots; 2) Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise"; 3) Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" -- which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"; 4) John 19:26 "When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son"; 5) John 19:28 "Later, knowing that all was now completed, and so that the Scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, "I am thirsty." 6) John 19:30 "When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit"; and 7) Luke 23:46 "Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last." "Hallelujah" occurs 28 times or 4 x 7. "Hosanna" occurs 7 times. "Milk" occurs 49 times or 7 x 7. "Abaddon" occurs 7 times. "After the order of Melchizedek" occurs 7 times. In the Hebrew, seven ([b'v, - Sheh'-bah) is from a root word meaning to be complete or full. This can be clearly seen from the first time a varient of this word is used in the Bible.

Peace to all
 :D

PS

Why 2012?  
Perhaps it's a leftover from MJ's JW background.  My father is a Jehovah Witness and he's CONSTANTLY talking about 2012 being the end of this world and all False Religion.
 

Hi  :)

At first I was also asking myself why 2012? The more I research and the more it tends to consolidate me into thinking that it is well in 2012. I know that many people do not care about what is in the Quran for example but the last post of mine is more than intriguing to say the least. Also the Mayan calendar points to 2012, other ancients calendars point to 2012...I too was skeptical in the beginning but I really feel that 2012 is the year. Now we can only wait and see to know if it is really gonna happened that year but we have to be prepared always. I don't think it's specific to JW, a lot of things point to 2012. Nevertheless I don't think that it will be The End of The World, I rather think that it will be the end of an era and the beginning of a new and the last era before the real end of the world. But as always we must see things in the perspective of our own lifetime that can be ended every second that passes.  God bless you.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on September 22, 2010, 09:54:34 PM
Quote
The True Ark
With regard to this concept of Christ as our mercy seat, let me add a penetrating insight which I picked up from John MacArthur, one of this country's greatest preachers. He pointed to a simple historical verse that contains a profound truth about Jesus being our mercy seat.

The verse is John 20:12. Speaking of Mary looking into the empty tomb of Jesus, the verse says, "she beheld two angels in white sitting, one at the head, and one at the feet, where the body of Jesus had been lying." What Mary saw, MacArthur observed, was the new mercy seat, the perfect mercy seat.

Consider again what Mary saw. She witnessed two angels, one sitting at each end of the slab which had held the broken body of our Lord. That scene points us back to the Ark of the Covenant where two cherubim hovered over its blood splattered mercy seat!

There is no more need for the Ark. Jesus has fulfilled all that the Ark stood for. He was deity who took on flesh. He rendered complete obedience to the Law, being made perfect and becoming the source of our salvation (Hebrews 5:8-9). His blood was shed for our sins, and His victory is attested by the fact and the power of His resurrection.

Just as the Ark was designed to be a symbol of the presence of God in the midst of His people, Jesus is the ultimate expression of God's love and care and presence. He is our Ark. He is our Law. He is our Manna. He is our Budded Rod. And, thank God, He is our Mercy Seat.

I guess I was skim-reading too much and missed this part of the article. This is indeed a beautiful picture of the ark of the covenant with 2 angels at each end in Jesus the Christ/Messiah. Wow!

But now since the Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Jesus was pre-incarnate in other forms in the Old Testament as Michael the Archangel, and I also believe He was one of the 3 men that came to Abraham to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.

The announcement by the church in Ethiopia said the Ark would be revealed the next day which was June 25, 2009, the exact day of Michael's "death". Well perhaps Michael is himself the revealed ark, another incarnate form. We are awaiting his return. He said in the movie "Cast away" that the ark must be destroyed. Michael was destroyed by the media and lastly in "death". MJair is like the take-off vehicle/spaceship. Sorry don't mean to offend.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on September 30, 2010, 11:08:41 AM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "MsTrinity333"
Excellent posts on this thread...although I found myself way over my head more times than I can count!  :?  
I have nothing to contribute other than this:

Did you know 777 = Christ?
http://www.spiritcommunity.com/dreams/b (http://www.spiritcommunity.com/dreams/b) ... rs_ref.php
This can be seen on Micheal's armband in the HIStory video. And after all, isn't the Bible really HIS story? ie. God's L.O.V.E. letter to us & the world?.. Back to the Ark & 777 again. Christ is our ARK and is now in heaven awaiting his Second Coming. He's our High Priest, Mercy Seat, The Alpha & Omega.  He paid the price.  It is finished. :D

Seven - THE NUMBER OF SPIRITUAL PERFECTION. Seven days in a week. Seven colors in the spectrum. Seven of the 10 commandments begin with the word "not." There are 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 parables in Matthew, and 7 promises to the churches. There are 7 "eternal s" in Hebrews which are: A priest for ever (1:6); Eternal salvation (1:9); Eternal judgment (6:2); eternal redemption (9:12); eternal spirit (9:14); eternal inheritance (9:15); and everlasting covenant (13:20). Jesus said 7 things on the cross: 1) Luke 23:34 "Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots; 2) Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise"; 3) Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" -- which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"; 4) John 19:26 "When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son"; 5) John 19:28 "Later, knowing that all was now completed, and so that the Scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, "I am thirsty." 6) John 19:30 "When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit"; and 7) Luke 23:46 "Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last." "Hallelujah" occurs 28 times or 4 x 7. "Hosanna" occurs 7 times. "Milk" occurs 49 times or 7 x 7. "Abaddon" occurs 7 times. "After the order of Melchizedek" occurs 7 times. In the Hebrew, seven ([b'v, - Sheh'-bah) is from a root word meaning to be complete or full. This can be clearly seen from the first time a varient of this word is used in the Bible.

Peace to all
 :D

PS

Why 2012?  
Perhaps it's a leftover from MJ's JW background.  My father is a Jehovah Witness and he's CONSTANTLY talking about 2012 being the end of this world and all False Religion.
 

Hi  :)

At first I was also asking myself why 2012? The more I research and the more it tends to consolidate me into thinking that it is well in 2012. I know that many people do not care about what is in the Quran for example but the last post of mine is more than intriguing to say the least. Also the Mayan calendar points to 2012, other ancients calendars point to 2012...I too was skeptical in the beginning but I really feel that 2012 is the year. Now we can only wait and see to know if it is really gonna happened that year but we have to be prepared always. I don't think it's specific to JW, a lot of things point to 2012. Nevertheless I don't think that it will be The End of The World, I rather think that it will be the end of an era and the beginning of a new and the last era before the real end of the world. But as always we must see things in the perspective of our own lifetime that can be ended every second that passes.  God bless you.

Agreed; end of an era.  The whole 2012 End of the World scenario is not specific to JW's.  There's definitely some INTERESTING galactic lineups coming so who knows what will happen at that time. May you live in interesting times... ;) We are told in the Bible not to set dates.  But I believe we are living in the last days.  Acts 1:7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority;

Mat 24:7  For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.  8All these are the beginning of sorrows... 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.  22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory... 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.  36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

God Bless
 
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Glinda on September 30, 2010, 11:50:13 AM
[youtube:1ko1u2a8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP1PmRbhXtY[/youtube:1ko1u2a8]
No one knows when.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on September 30, 2010, 01:02:25 PM
The Spirit and the bride say, "Come." Let anyone who hears this say, "Come." Let anyone who is thirsty come. Let anyone who desires drink freely from the water of life.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on October 26, 2010, 01:43:28 PM
;)
by Im_convincedmjalive » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:47 am
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
United Kingdom

In 2003, historical author Graham Phillips traced the route of the Ark through research using Biblical texts as being taken to Mount Sinai in the Valley of Edom by the Maccabees, along with other religious treasures. Phillips claims it remained there until the 1180s, when Ralph de Sudeley, the leader of the Templars who apparently found the Maccabean treasure at Jebel al-Madhbah, returned home to his estate at Herdewyke in Warwickshire, UK, taking the treasure with him.

Ireland

During the turn of the 20th century British Israelites carried out some excavations of the Hill of Tara in Ireland looking for the Ark of the Covenant – the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland campaigned successfully to have them stopped before they ruined the hill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the ... ed_Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant#United_Kingdom)


Right On!
Key word: IMO Think "Templars" Knights :idea:
Follow that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Templar_Knights)

I bet there is a whole big box of Pandora's INFO on this ARK we aren't even half way there of knowing.

Thanks for this info.

Peace
8-)
Co-incidence or plagerism of others theories and ideas? lol
[youtube:39x6490e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRBmFYzjs6s[/youtube:39x6490e]
MagicalXscapism | September 10, 2010
Michael Jackson - A knight's Tale Thriller 2 Part 11

Is Michael Jackson Alive? Is this a death hoax?
Thriller 2 - Part 11 What is Michael Jackson's affiliation with the freemasons and the knights templar (soldiers of love)?
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Interesting this video comes out Sept. 10, 2010 after this thread has been in existance with ALL kinds of Info regarding Knights Templar starting here with my initial comment to Sarahli...

I find it very amusing when I run across videos that have others investigative work in their videos and they present the material like they discovered it, lol

Everyone here on this thread contributed to this idea of Knights Templar, Dome of the Rock, Temple Mount...

Keep reading this thread from page one you will see our info in this video...lol

Poachers.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on October 26, 2010, 02:53:47 PM
Woohoo Michael said Soldiers of Love!!!!

Sorry  :lol:  I think that I'm gonna watch the whole serie. Thanks for bringing that here.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MissG on October 26, 2010, 04:36:48 PM
In poetry...
[youtube:8563vyci]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9jLdOvK2xA[/youtube:8563vyci]
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on November 12, 2010, 09:16:14 PM
[youtube:35aeaa9e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xlBI8ENkqk&feature=related[/youtube:35aeaa9e]

[youtube:35aeaa9e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exKVNgR0Amw&feature=related[/youtube:35aeaa9e]

[youtube:35aeaa9e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ItGVkO4wb0&feature=related[/youtube:35aeaa9e]

[youtube:35aeaa9e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8yLBeoUoJg&feature=related[/youtube:35aeaa9e]

[youtube:35aeaa9e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue_A5-4f91o&feature=related[/youtube:35aeaa9e]

Description: "The authenticity of many Holy Land artefacts is thrown into doubt"

In 2001, a clandestine meeting of leading Israeli archaeologists are shown a remarkable artefact. It's a stone tablet, apparently from 1,000BC. The writing on its face describes repairs to the temple of King Solomon. It is the first archaeological evidence ever found of this legendary building.

The relic caused a sensation. But this was only just the start.

For authentification, the tablet was taken to the Geological Survey of Israel. Here, after a battery of tests, including radiocarbon dating, scientists officially pronounced the stone to be genuine. The tests even revealed microscopic particles of gold in the outer layer of stone. These were apparently the result of the tablet surviving the fire which, according to the bible, destroyed the temple when the Babylonians sacked Jerusalem in 586BC.

The stone tablet was offered for sale to the Israel Museum, home to many of Israel's greatest treasures. Rumours suggested the asking price was as high as $10million.

But the museum needed to know where the stone had come from. Even its owner was a mystery. To make matters more complex, the stone itself had disappeared again. The Israeli Antiquities Authority wanted answers. A nine month search for the mysterious stranger who had first appeared with the stone eventually led them to a private detective who had been hired by a well known antiquities collector, Oded Golan.

Golan insisted he too was just a front man for another collector. But the authorities were suspicious. He was known to be the owner of the James Ossuary, another extraordinary artefact which had appeared a couple of years earlier. This was a burial box with an inscription linking it to Jesus' brother.

The authorities raided Golan's apartment and recovered both the ossuary and the elusive stone. It was time to establish once and for all if both were genuine. So they set up a committee of linguists and scientists to examine them.

Looking at the stone, several linguists said 'fake'. Some of the Hebrew, they claimed, was not ancient. Other experts claimed that so little is known of ancient Hebrew that it's impossible to be sure.

The committee turned to geology. Dr Yuval Goren, a geo-archaeologist and head of the Archaeological Institute at Tel-Aviv University, soon found evidence that a team of sophisticated forgers had led the earlier experts astray.
The patina on the stone had in fact been manufactured artificially
The charcoal particles which produced the convincing radiocarbon date had been added by hand.

The gold fragments hinting at an ancient fire were a clever final addition
The authorities presented their conclusions. They announced that the stone tablet, and the James Ossuary, were elaborate fakes.

But who was producing these fakes and how? Dr Goren decided to piece together how the stone tablet had been made. He tracked the origin of the stone itself - apparently a building block taken from a Crusader castle. It was even possible to work out how the fake patina had been manufactured and the ingredients used. What was clear was the team of forgers included experts in a range of disciplines.

When the police took Oded Golan into custody and searched his apartment they discovered a workshop with a range of tools, materials, and half finished 'antiquities'. This was evidence for an operation of a scale far greater than they had suspected.

Investigators have established that collectors around the world have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for artefacts that came through Oded Golan's associates. Dozens of these items have now been examined by Dr Goren, and all have been revealed to be forgeries. Police now suspect that artefacts made by the same team of forgers have found their way into leading museums around the world.

Some archaeologists have now concluded that everything that came to market in the last 20 years without clear provenance should be considered a fake. Many of these objects, like the stone tablet which started the investigation, were cynically playing on the desire of many of the collectors to see the bible confirmed as history. For those in search of the temple of Solomon - their goal is as far away as ever.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on November 12, 2010, 09:42:19 PM
[youtube:30821hub]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m7tg6y2xBQ[/youtube:30821hub]

[youtube:30821hub]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYIwjYN4JVo&feature=related[/youtube:30821hub]

[youtube:30821hub]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1lFYO5zE-c&feature=related[/youtube:30821hub]

Peace
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on November 21, 2010, 12:29:02 PM
In my opinion the Ark is not under the Mosque... they say that the Ark is there but in my view of recent events I rather think that their aim is to destroy the Mosque in order to rebuilt the Temple while the USA is making wars in the middle east to find the true Ark... and seems like something is happening in Yemen.

Interesting article there http://mondovista.com/yemenasitisx.html (http://mondovista.com/yemenasitisx.html)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on December 25, 2010, 02:31:42 PM
This man had a NDE and tells what he has been shown about the future of the world.... maybe that it is what awaits us for after 2012...

[youtube:1kbw2rag]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFh988kskZM&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1kbw2rag]
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on December 25, 2010, 06:03:02 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
In my opinion the Ark is not under the Mosque... they say that the Ark is there but in my view of recent events I rather think that their aim is to destroy the Mosque in order to rebuilt the Temple while the USA is making wars in the middle east to find the true Ark... and seems like something is happening in Yemen.

Interesting article there http://mondovista.com/yemenasitisx.html (http://mondovista.com/yemenasitisx.html)

New evidence is coming out all the time about the exact place of the Holy of Holies; the Mosque is no threat, they will be side by side... No destruction needed; that's old school.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on December 25, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
Quote from: "MsTrinity333"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
In my opinion the Ark is not under the Mosque... they say that the Ark is there but in my view of recent events I rather think that their aim is to destroy the Mosque in order to rebuilt the Temple while the USA is making wars in the middle east to find the true Ark... and seems like something is happening in Yemen.

Interesting article there http://mondovista.com/yemenasitisx.html (http://mondovista.com/yemenasitisx.html)

New evidence is coming out all the time about the exact place of the Holy of Holies; the Mosque is no threat, they will be side by side... No destruction needed; that's old school.

I don't know what to think about that but I remember I saw a documentary where a rabbi said plain and clear that their intent is to destroy the Mosque. The journalist told him that it would induce a war but he did not seem to care and said that everything was ready... that he just needed a phone call so that everything is set in motion...
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on December 26, 2010, 03:03:58 AM
The problem with archeology is the agendas of the people behind the work. Youve got people doing it for millions of dollars profit from fakes, and you've got church authorities doing it to prove the authenticity of the Bible, thus their control over the masses. Then you've got people trying to prove they are the real Biblical Israelites, or Jesus' bloodline, or other special status.

A good example would be the Shroud of Turin. Because of my study, I believe with 100% certainly it is not Jesus of Nazareth, and there is so much proof. But the church is powerful, wealthy and desparate to prove He resurrected from the grave and is white-skinned. Now this is not to say there wasn't a real Jesus character and we throw the baby out with the bathwater. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle or is something completely different.

The whole process of proving the Bible is complex. Science does not demand people believe in it by faith but by detailed analysis and study. The facts about the Bible's origin are that there were many books written by many individuals who had a cohesive theme, a group of people called the Israelites and God's dealings with mankind. But only certain books were selected and others rejected, by a large group of devout scolars. That process was repeated for the Old and New Testament. These teams also decided on translation, presentation in chapters, verses, book order. Sometimes sections were left out and words added for clarification. These scolarly men all came from a variety of cultures, and viewpoints close to 2000 years and more ago, and the result was the various manuscripts, translations, and versions we have today.

For example the passages in the New Testament talking about the trinity --listing the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost, were all added by the church a few hundred years later to help with their teaching. And there is so much more, but I still believe God is speaking through the Bible and using the whole human process. I just don't think we should have this fear of cover-ups and fakes and deception from the church etc. Truth should not be feared.

Now Michael is a curious one. He talks about us having 4 (inclusive) years to get it right, that he loves the trees and the planet. He's never claimed to be a preacher but only a musician and entertainer, who loves all people especially children. The facts are that he came from a devout Jehovah's Witness background, has many Jewish friends who may have introduced him to Judaism, he is well-read from classics, Mayan and Egyptians religions, conspiracy theories, on and on. Never once has he said we need to get ready for Jesus coming back, although Threatened talks about judgment, execution and slaughter. At the Memorial the choir sang, "We're going to see the King", but I think that was MJ-hoax related and not about seeing Jesus. The themes repeated by MJ and TS are his shocking return, appearance/resurrection to the world. Period. Whatever we want to read into the Bible verses TS posts or MJ puts in his songs, doesn't mean that's how Michael means them. Does he really believe 2012 will be the end of the world. Just because the movie says it, it is entertainment. My hunch is Michael will be employing much technology in this event, but what will happen after 2012 could be anything. Maybe death, maybe change, maybe something idealic. We'll just have to "keep watching". There's no question in my mind that MJ intends on shaking up the world, and he doesn't give a care if people are offended or not. He is an artist that wants to express himself as never before on an unprecedented scale. Will he be joined with evil or good forces, there is no way to know. All we have is the life of Michael on display in great detail to examine. We'll each have decide for ourselvles. I know I love him. JMO
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on December 26, 2010, 08:27:49 AM
Seeing isn't believing; believing is seeing.  
There's a difference between Faith in the true living God & Religion.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on December 26, 2010, 06:49:02 PM
Heptadic Structure: Proof of Intelligent design.  
Just as there are no coincidences in MJ's use of Numerology in this hoax, there is no coincidence in scripture.  This phenomena is technically referred to as the Heptadic Structure of the Bible (hepta is the Greek word for seven) or Biblical numerology.

[youtube:2nocnmge]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flbaJfRwYxM[/youtube:2nocnmge]

Part Two:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxYwLvtn ... L&index=13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxYwLvtnoyc&feature=BF&list=QL&index=13)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: GodhaschosenMJ on December 26, 2010, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: "MsTrinity333"
Heptadic Structure: Proof of Intelligent design.  
Just as there are no coincidences in MJ's use of Numerology in this hoax, there is no coincidence in scripture.  This phenomena is technically referred to as the Heptadic Structure of the Bible (hepta is the Greek word for seven) or Biblical numerology.

[youtube:its9z1t5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flbaJfRwYxM[/youtube:its9z1t5]

Part Two:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxYwLvtn ... L&index=13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxYwLvtnoyc&feature=BF&list=QL&index=13)
WOW MsTrinity333!!! Thanks so much for these clips, God is awesome! All those 7's in the Bible, it has to be by design of Someone Supernatual! I like the number 7 alot, and in fact I got married on 07/07/07!!! Plus I also happen to believe in following the 4th commandment!!
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: GodhaschosenMJ on December 26, 2010, 08:03:31 PM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
[youtube:16gdfzs1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m7tg6y2xBQ[/youtube:16gdfzs1]

[youtube:16gdfzs1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYIwjYN4JVo&feature=related[/youtube:16gdfzs1]

[youtube:16gdfzs1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1lFYO5zE-c&feature=related[/youtube:16gdfzs1]

Peace
I see you posted this back in Nov. but I just saw it today for the first time! I really want to take the time to see these clips they look really good. I'm familiar with some of Ron Wyatts info, but look forward to seeing this. And I really like Amazing Facts speaker Doug Bachelor, but don't think I've seen this one before! So thanks again and I hope others discover these clips and enjoy them too!
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on December 26, 2010, 08:37:40 PM
Quote from: "GodhaschosenMJ"
Quote from: "MsTrinity333"
Heptadic Structure: Proof of Intelligent design.  
Just as there are no coincidences in MJ's use of Numerology in this hoax, there is no coincidence in scripture.  This phenomena is technically referred to as the Heptadic Structure of the Bible (hepta is the Greek word for seven) or Biblical numerology.

[youtube:l9djtseo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flbaJfRwYxM[/youtube:l9djtseo]

Part Two:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxYwLvtn ... L&index=13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxYwLvtnoyc&feature=BF&list=QL&index=13)
WOW MsTrinity333!!! Thanks so much for these clips, God is awesome! All those 7's in the Bible, it has to be by design of Someone Supernatual! I like the number 7 alot, and in fact I got married on 07/07/07!!! Plus I also happen to believe in following the 4th commandment!!

If you liked that...you will L.O.V.E. these: :D

[youtube:l9djtseo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezRyc1nik3k[/youtube:l9djtseo]
There's a second part to this video above that I've seen on GODTV that will blow your mind; but I can't find it.

[youtube:l9djtseo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t41L6_l5UcA[/youtube:l9djtseo]
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on December 28, 2010, 08:46:23 AM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Quote from: "MsTrinity333"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
In my opinion the Ark is not under the Mosque... they say that the Ark is there but in my view of recent events I rather think that their aim is to destroy the Mosque in order to rebuilt the Temple while the USA is making wars in the middle east to find the true Ark... and seems like something is happening in Yemen.

Interesting article there http://mondovista.com/yemenasitisx.html (http://mondovista.com/yemenasitisx.html)

New evidence is coming out all the time about the exact place of the Holy of Holies; the Mosque is no threat, they will be side by side... No destruction needed; that's old school.

I don't know what to think about that but I remember I saw a documentary where a rabbi said plain and clear that their intent is to destroy the Mosque. The journalist told him that it would induce a war but he did not seem to care and said that everything was ready... that he just needed a phone call so that everything is set in motion...

There will always be those who have a more radical voice; don't let them get to you...  :)
Grant Jeffery interviewed the Sanhedrin in 2005 and was told that BY LAW the status quo is if the Mosque is destroyed it must be rebuilt.

"Despite the traditional view that the Muslim Dome of the Rock sits on the site, recent scholarship has cast doubts on this view.

Dr. Asher Kaufman’s research has suggested that the Temples actually stood 100 meters to the north. His publications caused quite a stir among the Christian community since that would place the Muslim structure in the "outer court" as suggested from Rev 11:1-2.

Tuvia Sagiv’s more recent research has indicated that the Temple more likely stood 100 meters to the south - between the Dome of the Rock and Al Aksa Mosque. Recent infrared studies seem to imply that Tuvia is correct.2 This would also place the Muslim structures in "the outer court."

These developments are of intense interest to prophecy students. Jesus, John, and Paul all make reference to a rebuilt Temple as standing prior to the Second Coming of Christ.3 It is going to be a major subject of interest in the coming few years as all this comes to a head."
http://www.khouse.org/articles/2005/597/

Here's the latest evidence comparing all three views with diagrams & pictures:

http://thehope.tripod.com/Sagiv/theories.html
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on December 30, 2010, 11:32:39 AM
OK... Back to the ARK.  
I just recently ran across this study; I'm in the process of checking it out now but will post part one for those Interested.  
Don't let the Title of the series throw you.  He talks about the Ark:

[youtube:3i1n7nwg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLylnY2WIMg[/youtube:3i1n7nwg]
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: ignisaeternus on February 12, 2011, 12:46:55 PM
Ok, big DUH from me.  I am watching a "Making of" Dvd I bought and it includes Miss Castaway.  I had never even HEARD of it.  As soon as I watched it, and heard his lines, I was thinking, OMG- this is definitely hoax related.  To me anyway...I have not read this whole thread, but will do so now.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on February 14, 2011, 11:00:16 AM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
Ok, big DUH from me.  I am watching a "Making of" Dvd I bought and it includes Miss Castaway.  I had never even HEARD of it.  As soon as I watched it, and heard his lines, I was thinking, OMG- this is definitely hoax related.  To me anyway...I have not read this whole thread, but will do so now.

"Making of" what?  Who's Miss Castaway???  How does this fit in with 777 or the Ark thread?
 I'm lost. :?
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on February 14, 2011, 12:13:43 PM
Quote from: "MsTrinity333"
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
Ok, big DUH from me.  I am watching a "Making of" Dvd I bought and it includes Miss Castaway.  I had never even HEARD of it.  As soon as I watched it, and heard his lines, I was thinking, OMG- this is definitely hoax related.  To me anyway...I have not read this whole thread, but will do so now.

"Making of" what?  Who's Miss Castaway???  How does this fit in with 777 or the Ark thread?
 I'm lost. :?
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_seals)

http://freestockphotos.com/SevenSeals.html (http://freestockphotos.com/SevenSeals.html)

http://www.wake-up.org/Revelation/RevSeals.htm (http://www.wake-up.org/Revelation/RevSeals.htm)

[youtube:hsd79hbu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkvlAoIcisU[/youtube:hsd79hbu]
Agent M...


[youtube:hsd79hbu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr4fwuU_9Oc&feature=related[/youtube:hsd79hbu]
Agent MJ,
Miss Castaway...

http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit (http://twitter.com/thisisalmostit)
Miss Castaway + Southpark = 2012
10:20 AM May 27th via web

Warnings...

[youtube:hsd79hbu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvI66Xaj9-o[/youtube:hsd79hbu]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah's_Ark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah's_Ark)
The Book of Genesis, chapters 6-9, tells how God sends a great flood to destroy the earth because of man's wickedness and because the earth is corrupt.



Peace
@MsTrinity333,

From the first page of this thread; and it is also about warnings in this thread. I replaced the link to the youtube trailer of 2012.

@ignisaeternus,

When you read this thread especially in the first part of it when I am chatting away about my personal bizness please just ignore it. lol That was a different person than I am now. I was chatting away like if I was at home speaking with my friends.  ;)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on February 14, 2011, 12:37:21 PM
Miss Castaway... Never heard of it.  :?  Bizarre but ok... :|
I know about MIB, 2012, The Book of Revelation & the rest but thanks for the info. 8-)  It was this other thing about Miss Castaway that was throwing me. :lol:  
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on March 24, 2011, 06:46:17 PM
Speaking of The End Is Near and reading the signs of the times... THIS IS COOL:


[youtube:2xgzk70n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi78PmRX46Y[/youtube:2xgzk70n]



[youtube:2xgzk70n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaKn8PI3B4Y[/youtube:2xgzk70n]
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Its her on March 30, 2011, 07:43:57 PM
It is hard to believe no one mentioned this yet, so I guess, I will.

Each letter in the Hebrew language is assigned a numeric value. (Hebrew is a fascinating language. I have heard, also, that letters are assigned musical notes as well. I need to ask some friends how that goes, again.)

The letters in the word "Christ",  added together, coincidentally equal 777. :o

Perhaps it means something else to MJ, or some other combination of Hebrew letters adds to the number. As MJ is the one wearing this all over his clothes, he is the best one to explain it, eh?  :)

Nevertheless it is the truth; math doesn't lie. 8-)  :D  

This is actually a wonderful thought :!:

The other thing is, that the fancy golden chest/box everyone is looking for is and has always been only a type (a kind of animated motion graphic 8-) , for portrayal, prior to revelation) of the True, which is Jesus Christ. The Earth is full of types and shadows, pointing to the Truth, showing how things are, with God. The point of the ARK is as old as Man, and is not an afterthought.

In a picture, the Word (and Power) of God was inside, because He IS the Word of God, inside His incarnation.

In a picture, it is where Mercy sits(rules), because His shed blood invoked the Mercy of God.

Jesus Christ is the real Ark of the Covenant. IN Him we are safe.

There are not two. The type is an empty shell; a faded representation of the True, having served its purpose, before Christ came in the flesh. Its supernatural powers were by proxy of the True. In the prophetic vision, the Bible says the real One is standing in Heaven.  :D

Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on March 31, 2011, 05:13:42 AM
I believe that all God's Books to be numerically structured.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on March 31, 2011, 11:39:20 AM
Quote from: "Its her"
It is hard to believe no one mentioned this yet, so I guess, I will.

Each letter in the Hebrew language is assigned a numeric value. (Hebrew is a fascinating language. I have heard, also, that letters are assigned musical notes as well. I need to ask some friends how that goes, again.)

The letters in the word "Christ",  added together, coincidentally equal 777. :o

Perhaps it means something else to MJ, or some other combination of Hebrew letters adds to the number. As MJ is the one wearing this all over his clothes, he is the best one to explain it, eh?  :)

Nevertheless it is the truth; math doesn't lie. 8-)  :D  

This is actually a wonderful thought :!:

The other thing is, that the fancy golden chest/box everyone is looking for is and has always been only a type (a kind of animated motion graphic 8-) , for portrayal, prior to revelation) of the True, which is Jesus Christ. The Earth is full of types and shadows, pointing to the Truth, showing how things are, with God. The point of the ARK is as old as Man, and is not an afterthought.

In a picture, the Word (and Power) of God was inside, because He IS the Word of God, inside His incarnation.

In a picture, it is where Mercy sits(rules), because His shed blood invoked the Mercy of God.

Jesus Christ is the real Ark of the Covenant. IN Him we are safe.

There are not two. The type is an empty shell; a faded representation of the True, having served its purpose, before Christ came in the flesh. Its supernatural powers were by proxy of the True. In the prophetic vision, the Bible says the real One is standing in Heaven.  :D


Yep...I covered it on page four:
"MsTrinity333:
Excellent posts on this thread...although I found myself way over my head more times than I can count!  :?  

Did you know 777 = Christ?
http://www.spiritcommunity.com/dreams/b (http://www.spiritcommunity.com/dreams/b) ... rs_ref.php
This can be seen on Micheal's armband in the HIStory video. And after all, isn't the Bible really HIS story? ie. God's L.O.V.E. letter to us & the world?.. Back to the Ark & 777 again. Christ is our ARK and is now in heaven awaiting his Second Coming. He's our High Priest, Mercy Seat, The Alpha & Omega.  He paid the price.  It is finished. :D

Seven - THE NUMBER OF SPIRITUAL PERFECTION. Seven days in a week. Seven colors in the spectrum. Seven of the 10 commandments begin with the word "not." There are 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 parables in Matthew, and 7 promises to the churches. There are 7 "eternal s" in Hebrews which are: A priest for ever (1:6); Eternal salvation (1:9); Eternal judgment (6:2); eternal redemption (9:12); eternal spirit (9:14); eternal inheritance (9:15); and everlasting covenant (13:20). Jesus said 7 things on the cross: 1) Luke 23:34 "Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up his clothes by casting lots; 2) Luke 23:43 Jesus answered him, "I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise"; 3) Matthew 27:46 About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" -- which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"; 4) John 19:26 "When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, "Dear woman, here is your son"; 5) John 19:28 "Later, knowing that all was now completed, and so that the Scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, "I am thirsty." 6) John 19:30 "When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit"; and 7) Luke 23:46 "Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last." "Hallelujah" occurs 28 times or 4 x 7. "Hosanna" occurs 7 times. "Milk" occurs 49 times or 7 x 7. "Abaddon" occurs 7 times. "After the order of Melchizedek" occurs 7 times. In the Hebrew, seven ([b'v, - Sheh'-bah) is from a root word meaning to be complete or full. This can be clearly seen from the first time a varient of this word is used in the Bible.

Peace to all"

And you are correct about Hebrew.  The picture language is as intriguing as the numeric & musical...
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 :D
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Its her on March 31, 2011, 12:28:27 PM
COOL, thank you--how'd I miss that?? :o
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on April 01, 2011, 01:07:53 PM
Quote from: "Its her"
COOL, thank you--how'd I miss that?? :o

Your welcome.  :D Ready to really have your mind blown?  This guy amazes me with the stuff he's found looking at things in the Jewish mindset. We need to stop thinking like Gentiles and get back to our Jewish roots. With God, Prophecy is Pattern. Talk about Warnings!  :shock:  He touches on some of the Hebrew picture language in pt 2, I'll see if I can find more of his stuff on it.  8-)

More on the 777...Divine appointments & the Blood Moons coming in 2014-2015

[youtube:376bxw6y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qmqU2bUpqY&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:376bxw6y]

Gods picture language In The Beginning...[/b]
[youtube:376bxw6y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHEwB-KAkoA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:376bxw6y]
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on April 02, 2011, 04:00:51 PM
An interesting article. I did not know where to post so I put it here, it's not too off topic i guess. :D

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Could this be the biggest find since the Dead Sea Scrolls? Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan could change our view of Biblical history

By Fiona Macrae
Last updated at 8:36 PM on 30th March 2011

For scholars of faith and history, it is a treasure trove too precious for price.

This ancient collection of 70 tiny books, their lead pages bound with wire, could unlock some of the secrets of the earliest days of Christianity.

Academics are divided as to their authenticity but say that if verified, they could prove as pivotal as the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947

On pages not much bigger than a credit card, are images, symbols and words that appear to refer to the Messiah and, possibly even, to the Crucifixion and Resurrection.

Adding to the intrigue, many of the books are sealed, prompting academics to speculate they are actually the lost collection of codices mentioned in the Bible’s Book Of Revelation

The books were discovered five years ago in a cave in a remote part of Jordan to which Christian refugees are known to have fled after the fall of Jerusalem in 70AD. Important documents from the same period have previously been found there.

Initial metallurgical tests indicate that some of the books could date from the first century AD

This estimate is based on the form of corrosion which has taken place, which experts believe would be impossible to achieve artificially.

If the dating is verified, the books would be among the earliest Christian documents, predating the writings of St Paul.

The prospect that they could contain contemporary accounts of the final years of Jesus’s life has excited scholars – although their enthusiasm is tempered by the fact that experts have previously been fooled by sophisticated fakes.

David Elkington, a British scholar of ancient religious history and archeology, and one of the few to have examined the books, says they could be ‘the major discovery of Christian history’.

‘It is a breathtaking thought that we have held these objects that might have been held by the early saints of the Church,’ he said.

But the mysteries between their ancient pages are not the books’ only riddle. Today, their whereabouts are also something of a mystery. After their discovery by a Jordanian Bedouin, the hoard was subsequently acquired by an Israeli Bedouin, who is said to have illegally smuggled them across the border into Israel, where they remain.

However, the Jordanian Government is now working at the highest levels to repatriate and safeguard the collection. Philip Davies, emeritus professor of biblical studies at Sheffield University, said there was powerful evidence that the books have a Christian origin in plates cast into a picture map of the holy city of Jerusalem.

‘As soon as I saw that, I was dumbstruck,’ he said. ‘That struck me as so obviously a Christian image. There is a cross in the foreground, and behind it is what has to be the tomb [of Jesus], a small building with an opening, and behind that the walls of the city.

‘There are walls depicted on other pages of these books too and they almost certainly refer to Jerusalem. It is a Christian crucifixion taking place outside the city walls.’

The British team leading the work on the discovery fears that the present Israeli ‘keeper’ may be looking to sell some of the books on to the black market, or worse – destroy them.

But the man who holds the books denies the charge and claims they have been in his family for 100 years.

Dr Margaret Barker, a former president of the Society for Old Testament Study, said: ‘The Book of Revelation tells of a sealed book that was opened only by the Messiah.

‘Other texts from the period tell of sealed books of wisdom and of a secret tradition passed on by Jesus to his closest disciples. That is the context for this discovery.’

Professor Davies said: ‘The possibility of a Hebrew-Christian origin is certainly suggested by the imagery and, if so, these codices are likely to bring dramatic new light to our understanding of a very significant but so far little understood period of history.’

Mr Elkington, who is leading British efforts to have the books returned to Jordan, said: ‘It is vital that the collection can be recovered intact and secured in the best possible circumstances, both for the benefit of its owners and for a potentially fascinated international audience.’

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/30/article-1371290-0B63F32D00000578-102_306x370.jpg)

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Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MissG on April 03, 2011, 03:22:05 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
An interesting article. I did not know where to post so I put it here, it's not too off topic i guess. :D

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Could this be the biggest find since the Dead Sea Scrolls? Seventy metal books found in cave in Jordan could change our view of Biblical history

By Fiona Macrae
Last updated at 8:36 PM on 30th March 2011

For scholars of faith and history, it is a treasure trove too precious for price.

This ancient collection of 70 tiny books, their lead pages bound with wire, could unlock some of the secrets of the earliest days of Christianity.

Academics are divided as to their authenticity but say that if verified, they could prove as pivotal as the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947

On pages not much bigger than a credit card, are images, symbols and words that appear to refer to the Messiah and, possibly even, to the Crucifixion and Resurrection.

Adding to the intrigue, many of the books are sealed, prompting academics to speculate they are actually the lost collection of codices mentioned in the Bible’s Book Of Revelation

The books were discovered five years ago in a cave in a remote part of Jordan to which Christian refugees are known to have fled after the fall of Jerusalem in 70AD. Important documents from the same period have previously been found there.

Initial metallurgical tests indicate that some of the books could date from the first century AD

This estimate is based on the form of corrosion which has taken place, which experts believe would be impossible to achieve artificially.

If the dating is verified, the books would be among the earliest Christian documents, predating the writings of St Paul.

The prospect that they could contain contemporary accounts of the final years of Jesus’s life has excited scholars – although their enthusiasm is tempered by the fact that experts have previously been fooled by sophisticated fakes.

David Elkington, a British scholar of ancient religious history and archeology, and one of the few to have examined the books, says they could be ‘the major discovery of Christian history’.

‘It is a breathtaking thought that we have held these objects that might have been held by the early saints of the Church,’ he said.

But the mysteries between their ancient pages are not the books’ only riddle. Today, their whereabouts are also something of a mystery. After their discovery by a Jordanian Bedouin, the hoard was subsequently acquired by an Israeli Bedouin, who is said to have illegally smuggled them across the border into Israel, where they remain.

However, the Jordanian Government is now working at the highest levels to repatriate and safeguard the collection. Philip Davies, emeritus professor of biblical studies at Sheffield University, said there was powerful evidence that the books have a Christian origin in plates cast into a picture map of the holy city of Jerusalem.

‘As soon as I saw that, I was dumbstruck,’ he said. ‘That struck me as so obviously a Christian image. There is a cross in the foreground, and behind it is what has to be the tomb [of Jesus], a small building with an opening, and behind that the walls of the city.

‘There are walls depicted on other pages of these books too and they almost certainly refer to Jerusalem. It is a Christian crucifixion taking place outside the city walls.’

The British team leading the work on the discovery fears that the present Israeli ‘keeper’ may be looking to sell some of the books on to the black market, or worse – destroy them.

But the man who holds the books denies the charge and claims they have been in his family for 100 years.

Dr Margaret Barker, a former president of the Society for Old Testament Study, said: ‘The Book of Revelation tells of a sealed book that was opened only by the Messiah.

‘Other texts from the period tell of sealed books of wisdom and of a secret tradition passed on by Jesus to his closest disciples. That is the context for this discovery.’

Professor Davies said: ‘The possibility of a Hebrew-Christian origin is certainly suggested by the imagery and, if so, these codices are likely to bring dramatic new light to our understanding of a very significant but so far little understood period of history.’

Mr Elkington, who is leading British efforts to have the books returned to Jordan, said: ‘It is vital that the collection can be recovered intact and secured in the best possible circumstances, both for the benefit of its owners and for a potentially fascinated international audience.’

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/30/article-1371290-0B63F32D00000578-102_306x370.jpg)

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Great article! Thanks for posting! We discussed the rolls in the visions thread as well.

David Elkington, a British scholar of ancient religious history and archeology, and one of the few to have examined the books, says they could be ‘the major discovery of Christian history’.

I can´t wait for the out come. This event can actually change history.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on April 04, 2011, 01:22:24 PM
Excellent find. Our God is an awesome God...  8-)

After going over Souza's re-uploads (videos) of TS' posts and digging deeper about the "ARK" I re-read what TS said:

"...surely if there is any object on planet earth that God can and will control at the end of time, it is the Ark of the Covenant. But the devil knows this, so he will have one or more counterfeit arks to confuse people. Then if we want to be on the right side of the final battle between good and evil: we must STUDY the true Ark,and know it so well that none of the counterfeits will lead us astray"

Did you catch that?... The True Ark.


That brings us back to our point about the TRUE Ark = Jesus.  8-)

Now some info from one of TS' links:

Multiples of Seven

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made

Genesis 2:1f

The Number Seven has two fundamental symbolic meanings in Scripture:

1) Completeness, Fullness, or Perfection

2) To Swear, to Vow, to make an Oath

This is discussed at length in the article called Seven and Scripture. The identities below are but few of the more spectacular examples of how the Number Seven modulates between a concept and the manifestation of its perfection or completeness.

I can not copy the chart.  But check out the link to view:   http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_MultiplesOfSeven.asp (http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_MultiplesOfSeven.asp)

Now read what it says about 777.  Again I can't copy the page because of the Hebrew for some reason but it's cool:
http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_777.asp (http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_777.asp)

TS,
You are blowing my mind. OMG... I am so over my head; but I AM trying.  All this bc of Souza's vids & your posts.  :lol:  
Then of course I HAD to look up my 333  :shock: That has now led me down another rabbit hole of study. The more I study the less I know...  :roll:  And just out of curiosity; the posted time of 4:44 when I joined this forum. :o  You're killing me TS. Information overload, fuse blown.  :lol: I know, It's all for L.O.V.E... boy is that layered in understatement.
Thank you <3
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on April 04, 2011, 02:03:50 PM
I hold fast to MJ saying he himself is the Christ 777, even though it doesn't sit well with Christians, and they would like to think MJ was pointing people to the Jesus they would like. LaToya says of him that he is not God but the most Godlike person she knows, and Randy Phillips says MJ was the most Christlike person he knows. Why are MJ, his family and others NEVER pointing people to accept Christ in the traditional Protestant manner of doing so, saying the sinner's prayer, etc. so that your sins are forgiven and you will escape hell and go to heaven. You can read that into it, but I don't think MJ is a Christian in the same sense at all. Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Michael the Archangel was Jesus pre-incarnate, which my personal Bible study has convinced me is accurate. Perhaps even Katherine believes this about her son, just as Mary treasured that in her heart long ago. I know Gema once asked the question, Is it that Michael mistakedly thought he was The Christ or that he IS the Christ. Now there's the rub, NOT that he is pointing to The Christ.  Perhaps I stand alone in this belief, but I have felt this so powerfully since June 25, 09 and NOTHING has caused me to doubt this ever. Serenity_Dream has so carefully researched and documented all the clear evidence from the visuals in MJ's world in her videos and posts. I also have put out my attempts at showing the many evidences of that in my posts a while back. NONE of that info shows MJ pointing to the Protestant concept of Christ. And also here is Back on that subject.
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Of a tHeOrY or Vision
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As one who embodies "vision" past 20/20, occurrences of the future are often "experienced". But many times this "experience" comes in the form of internal jolts, indicative of something of great significance. Séance hoaxes are not applicable.There are tIMEs when details are sparse, but abundant enough to "see" the grandness, just as it was in this magnetism towards the tHeOrY of sEVEN.

Exit Angel Gabriel----enter Angel Michael

Luke 1:36

"And in the sixth month the angel (Gabri)el was sent from God unto a city......
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph..."
And in the sixth month the angel (Micha)el was “statused” by God in a city...(of Angels)
.........espoused to a man whose name was Joseph.

On 6-25-09, tIME took a literal backseat to the mOMENt. I could always "see" a Silhouette on a Grand-stage, once again taking over the World. Perhaps also parallel in holding to our proclamation that this was NOT a "comeback", but a take-over. This was it. And in a thunderous sense,----- it was. It just didn't dawn on me that that Grand Stage would be in the Heavens; A visual Staple-d to the Center of our minds for all eternity.

Physically--no more, but with us in an eternal Angelic presence. We witnessed the beginning of this transfer on 7/7 of this historical year.

As History has shown, reflected through the books and logics of many faiths, Prophets do and have walked amongst us. They have sometimes been Angels in the temporary casts of both tIME and human flesh. And in their allotted tIME, their purposes have most often been message DeLIVErance. In the separation of major tIME factions in our planetary HiStory, specifically Birth of Christ (BC) To nearly 2009 years post his physical exit (AD), there's only one other Worldly figure that has been bestowed the powers to reach EVERY corner of the globe. And that Heavenly Gift was the Incomparable Michael Jackson.

2+5, The days of Christ and Michael.

Although many other Great Worldly figures, ranging from Martin to Mother Teresa, have graced this Earth with soul driven purposes that have benefited humanity, there have ONLY been two who have been subjected to literal crucifixions; before, during and after their deaths. And even in the face of these crucifixions, they both maintained hearts filled with love, sensitivity and care for all man/woman-kind. They carried rare emotional connections to and concerns for every single poor and sick person on the planet; Especially the children. They were in-tune with the necessary nurturance that this magnificent creation we inhabit requires for survival. They both never stopped giving and wanting to give more! They even carried compassion and hope for those who were consumed with evil and sought to do them both harm. An EXTREME rarity!

Christ was the savior of lives once as a physical being
So too was Michael Jackson.
I’m sure there are “many” here on this very board who can attest to that. My word itself does not have to be taken as conclusive. The proof will be provided through acknowledgement.

Throughout the decades of the modern tIMEs we live, many Great figures have suffered untIMEly demises. Deep reflection of these occurrences will or should give you great pause. The easiest approach up until about 20 years ago was always by the bullet. What changed the trend? Well, along came awareness, suspicion, and non-acceptance of "stories" that carry potholes in logic. Thus, it demanded a necessity for more elaborate plans of execution that are now used as a means of thwarting the full truth. This process had to be in magnification ten fold in order to end the physical existence of the most famous person walking this Earth. Many OTHER attempts had failed, even though they left enormous wounds. You see, evil always goes for the jugular by attacking a person's greatest strength. Michael Jackson's greatest strength was pure love. The antagonist of such a principle is hate. So they used that pure love and coupled it with another of his strengths towards healing and caring for sick children to formulate perhaps the most wickedly contrived fiction in history. The goal was to create the most egregious of perceptions and marvel with pleasure and amusement at its historically noted difficulty to disprove. But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes. For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!

Though the hands of tIME still move incrementally, tick-tock, tick-tock, it is quickly running thin on the 2 decade long, elaborate planning that culminated in this execution. I can now understand that "vision" of 6/25/06 relapse", with CLARITY. This is no conspiracy theory! However, believe as you may. But believing and knowing--- are two different things.


Arms, wrist and feet. Bludgeoned through the veins.
Arms, wrist and feet, Poisoned through the veins.
Two different Kings, with different Reigns.
And The End result shall be the same.
Finally here is MJ in the hyperbolic chamber and the label Sechrist, "See Christ" says it all. I'm sure this was no accident in MJ choosing that scenario.
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Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: Sarahli on April 04, 2011, 03:22:08 PM
What's the difference between Messiah and Christ? If there is one...
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on April 05, 2011, 08:08:49 AM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
What's the difference between Messiah and Christ? If there is one...

No difference...they are one and the same. The Jews and early "Christians" refer to him as the Messiah :D
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on April 05, 2011, 08:38:00 AM
I L.O.V.E. Michael as much as anyone but he is NOT THE CHRIST, JESUS OR THE MESSIAH.

MICHAEL the Archangel IS NOT Jesus nor is Michael Jackson Michael the Archangel.  That is incorrect Theology.  
MJ NEVER said he was Jesus; as a matter of fact he stated the opposite in the Oprah interview for one.  He said he's not Jesus but he tries to IMITATE Jesus. Meaning he tries to follow Jesus and his teachings like all Christians should.
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Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.  1 John 4:1-3[/b]

IS JESUS CHRIST THE ARCHANGEL MICHAEL?

The Watchtower Society teaches that Jesus existed as Michael the archangel prior to coming to earth and became Michael again at His resurrection. They claim that Jesus was only a man when He was on earth and when He died, the "man" Jesus ceased to exist,1. being raised as a "spirit creature" the archangel Michael:

    "So the evidence indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God."—Reasoning from the Scriptures, 1985, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, p. 218

In order to try to prove that Jesus is Michael the archangel, Jehovah's Witnesses often point to passages like Daniel 10:13 where Michael is seen as " one of the chief princes." The fact that Michael is "one of the chief princes," however, indicates that Michael is not unique. Jesus is more than just a "Prince" or "Ruler." The Bible calls Jesus "King of Kings" and "Lord of Lords." (Revelation 17:14; 19:16) This title indicates absolute sovereignty and authority and is a far cry from being "one of the chief princes" who is one among a group of equals.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 states, "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God...." Jehovah's Wittnesses use this verse to try to prove that Jesus is Michael the archangel because He comes "with the voice of the archangel." However, the fact that Jesus is coming with the archangel's voice doesn't mean that He is the archangel. Notice that this verse also says that this verse also says that Jesus is coming with God's trumpet, but one wouldn't argue that Jesus is God simply because He is coming with God's trumpet. In 2 Thessalonians 1:7, we read that “the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire.” Thus, it appears that Jesus will come with the archangel who issues the shout. In Zechariah 14:5-6, we read that Jehovah God “will come, and all the holy ones with Him! And it will come about in that day that there will be no light.” When one compares this passage of Jehovah’s coming with the coming of Christ as described in 2 Thessalonians 1:7 and Matthew 24:29-31, it is obvious that the Jehovah who is coming in Zechariah is the Jesus who is coming with “His angels” in Matthew 24 and 2 Thessalonians.

In order to try to prove that when Jesus was claiming to be the “Son of God,” He was claiming to be one of God’s angels, Jehovah’s Witnesses often point to Job 38:7 where angels are called sons of God. However, Hebrews 1:5 states, “For to which of the angels did He ever say, ‘THOU ART MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN THEE’ And again, ‘I WILL BE A FATHER TO HIM, AND HE SHALL BE A SON TO ME’?” Since the Bible doesn’t contradict itself, it is obvious that Jesus is called the “Son of God” in a different sense than angels are called God’s sons.

Historically, the Jews understood the term “son of...” to mean “of the order of...” (see 1 Kings 20:35; Nehemiah 12:28) Therefore, when Jesus claimed to be the “Son of God” (John 19:7), the Jews tried to stone Him for blasphemy (Leviticus 24:16) for they understood Him to be claiming to be “of the order of God”, hence, claiming to be Jehovah God. (John 5:18) In Isaiah 46:9, God declares, “I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me.”

The term “only begotten” does not necessarily mean that Jesus was created. When Jesus is called the “only begotten God” in John 1:18, this term is used to refer to Christ’s uniqueness as God. Originally, it was thought that the term monogenese came from monos meaning “only” and gennao meaning “begotten.” However, further research has determined that the term genese is derived not from gennao, but rather from genos which means “kind” or “type.” Therefore, when the Bible refers to Jesus as the “only begotten God,” it is literally saying that Jesus is the “one and only unique God.” (see John 1:18, NIV)

Indeed, Jesus was never Michael the archangel before He came to earth, nor did He raise as “a spirit creature”-- the archangel Michael. The Bible testifies: “For He did not subject to angels the world to come, concerning which we are speaking.” — Hebrews 2:5

WHO IS JESUS?
Numerous titles and attributes of Jehovah found in the Hebrew Scriptures are applied directly to Jesus in the Christian Greek Scriptures.

    Jehovah knows “all things.” (1 John 3:20; Psalm 147:5) Jesus knows “all things.” (John 16:30)
    Jehovah is the only one who knows the hearts of all men. (1 Kings 8:39; Jeremiah 17:9-10) Jesus knows the hearts of all men. (John 2:24-25; Rev. 2:18, 23)
    Jehovah is our sanctifier. (Exodus 31:13) Jesus sanctifies us. (Hebrews 10:10)
    Jehovah is our peace. (Judges 6:23) Jesus is our peace. (Ephesians 2:14)
    Jehovah is our righteousness. (Jeremiah 23:6) Jesus is our righteousness. ( 1 Corinthians 1:30)
    Jehovah is our healer. (Exodus 15:26) Jesus heals us. (Acts 9:34)
    Jehovah God dwells in us. (2 Corinthians 6:16) Jesus is in us. (Romans 8:10)2.
    Jehovah is the giver of life who will not allow His people to be “snatched” out of His hand. (Deuteronomy 32:39) Jesus is the giver of life who will not allow His people to be “snatched” out of His hand. (John 10:28)
    Jehovah’s voice is “like the roar of rushing waters.” (Ezekiel 43:2) Jesus’ “voice was like the sound of rushing waters.” (Revelation 1:15)
    Jehovah is present everywhere. (Proverbs 15:3; Jeremiah 23:24; I Kings 8:27) Jesus is omnipresent. (John 1:48; Matthew 18:20; 28:20)
    Jehovah’s nature does not change. (Malachi 3:6) Jesus’ nature does not change. (Hebrews 13:8)3.
    Jehovah is the only God we are to “serve.”
    (2 Kings 17:35) Jesus is to be served. (Col. 3:24)
    Jehovah is the only God to be “worshipped.” (Exodus 34:14) Jesus receives the same honor and “worship” that the Father receives. (John 5:23; Revelation 5:11-14 compare with Rev. 4:10-11)4. No angel can receive “worship.” (Revelation 22:8-9)
    Jehovah the Lord is to be set apart as holy. (Isaiah 8:12b-13) Jesus as Jehovah is to be set apart as holy. (1 Peter 3:14b-15a)5.
    Jehovah’s glory is not to be given to another.
    (Isaiah 42:8) Jesus shares Jehovah’s glory. (Jn. 17:5)
    God’s name is Jehovah (or Yahweh--YHWH). (Isaiah 42:8) Jesus has Jehovah’s name. (John 17:11; John 16:14-15)
    Jehovah is the only God to be mentioned in prayer. (Exodus 23:13) Christians are to pray to Jesus.6.
    (John 14:14)
    Calling upon Jehovah (Joel 2:32) is the same as calling upon Jesus. (Acts 2:21; Romans 10:9-13)7.
    Jehovah “the true God” is called “eternal life.” (1 John 5:20) Jesus is called “the eternal life.” (1 John 1:2)
    Jehovah is the “mighty God.” (Jeremiah 32:17-18; Isaiah 10:20-21) Jesus is the “mighty God”
    (Isaiah 9:6) who is “Almighty.” (Revelation 1:7-8)8. THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. (1 Timothy 1:17; Isaiah 44:8)
    Jehovah is an “everlasting light.” (Psalm 27:1; Isaiah 60:19-20) Jesus is the light of men and the everlasting light of the future city. (John 1:4-9; Revelation 21:23)
    Jehovah is “the first and the last.” (Isaiah 44:6; 48:12) Jesus is the “first and the last.”
    (Revelation 1:17-18; 22:12-13, 20)
    Jehovah is the “Alpha and the Omega.” (Revelation 1:8; Revelation 21:6-7) Jesus is the “Alpha and the Omega.” (Revelation 22:12-13, 20)
    Jehovah’s title is “the Holy One.” (Isaiah 47:4) Jesus is “the Holy One.” (Acts 3:14; John 6:69)
    Jehovah is the “stumbling stone” of Israel.
    (Isaiah 8:13-15) Jesus is the “stumbling stone” of Israel. (1 Peter 2:6-8)
    John the Baptist was to prepare the way for Jehovah. (Isaiah 40:3) The Jehovah who came was Jesus.
    (Mark 1:1-4; John 1:6-7, 23)
    Jehovah is the one who was “pierced.” (Zechariah 12:10)9. Jesus is the pierced Jehovah. (John 19:34; Revelation 1:7-8)
    The Jehovah who was sold for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:13) is Jesus. (Matthew 27:2-6)
    Jehovah is Lord of the elements. (Psalm 89:8-9) Jesus is Lord of the elements. (Matthew 8:26-27; John 2:7-9)
    Jehovah is the great Judge who gives life to whom he wishes and who renders to each man “according” to his “deeds.” (Psalm 98:9; Deuteronomy 32:39; Jeremiah 17:9-10) Jesus is the only judge who gives life to whom he wishes and renders to each man “according” to his “deeds.” (John 5:21-22; Revelation 2:18, 23)
    Jehovah is the only one who can forgive sins. (Mark 2:7; Daniel 9:9) Jesus forgives sins. (Mark 2:10-11; Luke 24:46-47)
    Jehovah is the great “shepherd” who leads his people to “the spring of the water of life.” (Psalm 23:1-2; Revelation 21:6-7) Jesus as the “shepherd” of His people, leads them “to springs of the water of life.” (John 10:11-18; Revelation 7:17) THERE IS ONLY ONE SHEPHERD --John 10:16.
    Jehovah is “Lord of Lords.” (Deuteronomy 10:17) Jesus is “Lord of Lords.” (Revelation 17:14; 19:16) The Father is Lord of all. (Matthew 11:25;
    Acts 17:24) Jesus is “Lord of all.” (Acts 10:36) THERE IS ONLY ONE LORD. (Jude 4)
    Jehovah is the Savior. (Isaiah 45:21-22) Jesus is the Savior. (Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1) THERE IS ONLY ONE SAVIOR. (Isaiah 43:11)
    Jehovah created the universe. (Psalm 102:25-27) Jesus created the universe. (John 1:3; Colossians 1:15-19;10. Hebrews 1:10-12).11. THERE IS ONLY ONE CREATOR. (Isaiah 44:24)
    Isaiah saw Jehovah. (Isaiah 6:1-5) The Jehovah that Isaiah saw was Jesus. (John 12:41)

Could it be that Jehovah gave Jesus all these qualities, and therefore, Jesus is a “lesser God” under Jehovah? No! For Jehovah declares:

    “For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me.”—Isaiah 46:9

    “You are My witnesses…Before Me there was no God formed, and there will be none after Me.…there is no savior besides Me.”—Isaiah 43:10-11

For more information see:

    bullets How can anyone believe Jesus is God?
    bullets Is the Trinity a Biblical Concept?
    bullets Did Jesus Resurrect from the Dead in an Invisible Spirit-body?

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1. The Atonement Between God and Man, Studies in the Scriptures, vol. 5, p. 454
2. Every place where Jesus is said to dwell “in” someone, the Watchtower Society’s New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures mistranslates it to read “Christ is in union with you.” However, note that the correct translation of “in you” can be found in Romans 8:10 of the Society’s Greek/English Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures.
3. In the incarnation, Jesus took on an addition nature -- a human nature (John 1:14; Philippians 2:7-8), but he still possessed and continues to posses God’s nature (Philippians 2:6) “For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form." --Colossians 2:9
4. Also Compare Isaiah 45:23 with Philippians 2:10-11.
5. Compare the Hebrew Scripture Greek Septuagint’s rendering of Isaiah 8:12-13 with 1 Peter 3:14-15. Peter quotes this passage of Jehovah and applies it directly to Jesus.
6. The Society’s New World Translation mistranslates this verse to read “ask anything” rather than “ask me anything.” Note the correct rendering can be found under John 14:14 in the Society’s Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures.
7. The New World Translation inserts the word “Jehovah” for “Lord” 237 times into their Christian Scriptures without the support of a single Greek manuscript of the Christian Scriptures. This is the case with Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13. Note, however, the correct translation of “Lord” can be found in the Society’s Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures.
8. The Society translates “Lord God” in Rev. 1:8 as “Jehovah God.” Notice that in this verse, Jehovah the Lord is called “Alpha and Omega.” At Revelation 22:12-13, 20, Jesus is called the “Alpha and Omega,” therefore, Jesus is the “Almighty” God of Revelation 1:8.
9. While the best Hebrew manuscripts available render Zechariah 12:10 as, “look upon Me whom they have pierced,” the New World Translation mistranslates it to read, “look to the One whom they have pierced.”
10. In this passage of Colossians, the New World Translation, adds the word “other” four times against all Greek manuscripts available. Note the correct translation of this passage can be found in the Society’s Kingdom Interlinear Translation.
11. Paul quotes Psalm 102:25-27 which speaks of Jehovah and applies this passage directly to Christ in Hebrews 1:10-12.

http://4jehovah.org/jehovahs-witness-archangel.php (http://4jehovah.org/jehovahs-witness-archangel.php)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: maninthemoon on April 05, 2011, 09:06:44 AM
What I want to see is there any reference to Michael Jackson in the bible. That would be very interesting.. Hmm.. :ugeek:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on April 05, 2011, 01:02:59 PM
Quote from: "angranity"
What I want to see is there any reference to Michael Jackson in the bible. That would be very interesting.. Hmm.. :ugeek:

Yes it would...but we would have to check the Bible Code people for that; I haven't kept up since the first book. That would be a mind blower wouldn't it? :lol:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: ibelieveinmj on April 06, 2011, 12:53:02 AM
MsTrinity, I was intrigued by your post, a little confusing at first but now I understand from where you got this information.  I just wanted to show this in a different light and would love to know your thoughts.

In What Way Are Jesus and His Father One?

Is Jesus Christ God?
“I and the Father are one,” said Jesus. (John 10:30) Some quote this text to prove that Jesus and his Father are two parts of a triune God. Is that what Jesus meant by this statement?

In John 10:25, Jesus stated that he did works in the name of his Father. From verses 27 to 29, he talked about symbolic sheep whom his Father had given him. Both statements by Jesus would have made little sense to his listeners if he and his Father were one and the same person. Instead, Jesus said, in effect, ‘My Father and I are so close-knit that no one can take away the sheep from me, just as no one can take them away from my Father.’ It is much like a son saying to his father’s enemy, ‘If you attack my father, you attack me.’ No one would conclude that this son and his father were the same person. But all could perceive the strong bond of unity between them.

Jesus and his Father, Jehovah God, are also “one” in the sense that they are in complete agreement as to intentions, standards, and values. In contrast with Satan the Devil and the first human couple, Adam and Eve, Jesus never wanted to become independent of God. “The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing,” Jesus explained. “For whatever things that One does, these things the Son also does in like manner.”—John 5:19; 14:10; 17:8.

This strong bond of unity, however, does not make God and his Son, Jesus, indistinguishable from each other. They are two individuals. Each one has his own distinct personality. Jesus has his own feelings, thoughts, experiences, and free will. Nevertheless, he chose to submit his will to that of his Father. According to Luke 22:42, Jesus said: “Let, not my will, but yours take place.” These words would have been meaningless if his will could not differ from his Father’s. If Jesus and his Father were really one person, why did Jesus pray to God and humbly admit to not knowing things that only his Father knew?—Matthew 24:36.

Members of many religions worship gods that are depicted as quarreling and fighting with their own family members. In Greek mythology, for example, Cronus overthrew his father, Uranus, and devoured his own children. How different this is from the oneness based on true love between Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus! And how this unity endears them to us! In fact, we have the incomparable privilege of being in union with these two highest Persons in all the universe. Regarding his followers, Jesus prayed: “I make request . . . that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us.”—John 17:20, 21.

Thus, when Jesus said, “I and the Father are one,” he was speaking, not of a mysterious Trinity, but of a wonderful unity—the closest bond possible between two persons.

Appeared in The Watchtower  September 1, 2009
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJhasSpoken on April 06, 2011, 01:15:33 AM
Quote from: "ibelieveinmj"
MsTrinity, I was intrigued by your post, a little confusing at first but now I understand from where you got this information.  I just wanted to show this in a different light and would love to know your thoughts.

In What Way Are Jesus and His Father One?

Is Jesus Christ God?
“I and the Father are one,” said Jesus. (John 10:30) Some quote this text to prove that Jesus and his Father are two parts of a triune God. Is that what Jesus meant by this statement?

In John 10:25, Jesus stated that he did works in the name of his Father. From verses 27 to 29, he talked about symbolic sheep whom his Father had given him. Both statements by Jesus would have made little sense to his listeners if he and his Father were one and the same person. Instead, Jesus said, in effect, ‘My Father and I are so close-knit that no one can take away the sheep from me, just as no one can take them away from my Father.’ It is much like a son saying to his father’s enemy, ‘If you attack my father, you attack me.’ No one would conclude that this son and his father were the same person. But all could perceive the strong bond of unity between them.

Jesus and his Father, Jehovah God, are also “one” in the sense that they are in complete agreement as to intentions, standards, and values. In contrast with Satan the Devil and the first human couple, Adam and Eve, Jesus never wanted to become independent of God. “The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing,” Jesus explained. “For whatever things that One does, these things the Son also does in like manner.”—John 5:19; 14:10; 17:8.

This strong bond of unity, however, does not make God and his Son, Jesus, indistinguishable from each other. They are two individuals. Each one has his own distinct personality. Jesus has his own feelings, thoughts, experiences, and free will. Nevertheless, he chose to submit his will to that of his Father. According to Luke 22:42, Jesus said: “Let, not my will, but yours take place.” These words would have been meaningless if his will could not differ from his Father’s. If Jesus and his Father were really one person, why did Jesus pray to God and humbly admit to not knowing things that only his Father knew?—Matthew 24:36.

Members of many religions worship gods that are depicted as quarreling and fighting with their own family members. In Greek mythology, for example, Cronus overthrew his father, Uranus, and devoured his own children. How different this is from the oneness based on true love between Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus! And how this unity endears them to us! In fact, we have the incomparable privilege of being in union with these two highest Persons in all the universe. Regarding his followers, Jesus prayed: “I make request . . . that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us.”—John 17:20, 21.

Thus, when Jesus said, “I and the Father are one,” he was speaking, not of a mysterious Trinity, but of a wonderful unity—the closest bond possible between two persons.

Appeared in The Watchtower  September 1, 2009

Thanks for the post. I guess before you even read it, you read, In What Way Are Jesus and His Father One?...you might think of Jesus and the Father as one person but like in your post it says Jesus is in union with his fathers teaching and values etc. but they are still two separate people. It reminds me when you hear people say 'they are just like their parents' that's because they have been with their parents from when they were born and have learned everything from them...so I guess it's similar.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: ibelieveinmj on April 06, 2011, 02:15:19 AM
MJhasSpoken...yes, the same is similar also in marriage, some say husband and wife are now ONE.  
Two different people still.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on April 06, 2011, 04:45:40 AM
MsTrinity333, what you presented so well, might be what orthodox theologians understand the Bible to teach (that's my background), but is it what Michael thinks and believes? IMO it is not, but still Michael is a blessing to all people, of all faiths and loves them all. I don't wish to offend anyone only to say what I think Michael is saying.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on April 06, 2011, 11:41:56 AM
Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"
Quote from: "ibelieveinmj"
MsTrinity, I was intrigued by your post, a little confusing at first but now I understand from where you got this information.  I just wanted to show this in a different light and would love to know your thoughts.

In What Way Are Jesus and His Father One?

Is Jesus Christ God?
“I and the Father are one,” said Jesus. (John 10:30) Some quote this text to prove that Jesus and his Father are two parts of a triune God. Is that what Jesus meant by this statement?

In John 10:25, Jesus stated that he did works in the name of his Father. From verses 27 to 29, he talked about symbolic sheep whom his Father had given him. Both statements by Jesus would have made little sense to his listeners if he and his Father were one and the same person. Instead, Jesus said, in effect, ‘My Father and I are so close-knit that no one can take away the sheep from me, just as no one can take them away from my Father.’ It is much like a son saying to his father’s enemy, ‘If you attack my father, you attack me.’ No one would conclude that this son and his father were the same person. But all could perceive the strong bond of unity between them.

Jesus and his Father, Jehovah God, are also “one” in the sense that they are in complete agreement as to intentions, standards, and values. In contrast with Satan the Devil and the first human couple, Adam and Eve, Jesus never wanted to become independent of God. “The Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he beholds the Father doing,” Jesus explained. “For whatever things that One does, these things the Son also does in like manner.”—John 5:19; 14:10; 17:8.

This strong bond of unity, however, does not make God and his Son, Jesus, indistinguishable from each other. They are two individuals. Each one has his own distinct personality. Jesus has his own feelings, thoughts, experiences, and free will. Nevertheless, he chose to submit his will to that of his Father. According to Luke 22:42, Jesus said: “Let, not my will, but yours take place.” These words would have been meaningless if his will could not differ from his Father’s. If Jesus and his Father were really one person, why did Jesus pray to God and humbly admit to not knowing things that only his Father knew?—Matthew 24:36.

Members of many religions worship gods that are depicted as quarreling and fighting with their own family members. In Greek mythology, for example, Cronus overthrew his father, Uranus, and devoured his own children. How different this is from the oneness based on true love between Jehovah God and his Son, Jesus! And how this unity endears them to us! In fact, we have the incomparable privilege of being in union with these two highest Persons in all the universe. Regarding his followers, Jesus prayed: “I make request . . . that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us.”—John 17:20, 21.

Thus, when Jesus said, “I and the Father are one,” he was speaking, not of a mysterious Trinity, but of a wonderful unity—the closest bond possible between two persons.

Appeared in The Watchtower  September 1, 2009

Thanks for the post. I guess before you even read it, you read, In What Way Are Jesus and His Father One?...you might think of Jesus and the Father as one person but like in your post it says Jesus is in union with his fathers teaching and values etc. but they are still two separate people. It reminds me when you hear people say 'they are just like their parents' that's because they have been with their parents from when they were born and have learned everything from them...so I guess it's similar.

Yes...Jesus is God & ONE with the Father.  The Trinity is truly one of those mysteries we just will never understand completely, but I'll give it a go.  ;)  Let's start here to build a foundation before I take you to TS' link...
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OK...

Three - THE NUMBER OF DIVINE PERFECTION:
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The Trinity consists of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There are three qualities of the universe: Time, Space, and Matter. To exist (except for God), all three are required. Each quality consists of three elements. Therefore, we live in a trinity of trinities. In the number three we have the first geometric figure. Two straight lines cannot enclose any space or form a planar figure. Three lines are necessary to form a planar figure and three dimensions are required to form a solid. A triangle is the simplest planar figure and a cube is the simplest three-dimensional solid. So as two could represent a square, three could represent a cube or solid contents. Three therefore represents that which is solid, real, substantial, complete and entire.

All things that are especially complete and entire are stamped with the number three.

Gods attributes are three - omniscience, omnipresence and omnipotence.
The three divisions of time - past, present and future.
The three persons in grammar - me, myself and I.
The sum of all human ability is threefold - thought, word and deed.
The three kingdoms of matter - animal, vegetable or mineral.


Now on to some of the pages that discuss this topic.  These pages are part of a site TS linked to in TIAI Revealed pt 7.
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WARNING: This is VERY complex.  :shock:  :lol:  I will only post the introductory highlights because the charts & Hebrew are so extensive they can not be copied & pasted in full on this forum, so you MUST go on site & see this stuff for yourself in order to get a grasp on it...it is INCREDIBLE. It's a rabbit hole that will take you down a very in-depth line of study. This is why I said TS is killing me!  WOW...  :o   :shock:  :lol:

The Shield of the Blessed Trinity

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Unity_Shield.asp

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Matthew 28.18f

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

"The entire structure of the Shema is built upon the mathematical identity linking the Hebrew words for One and Love with the Number 13.

The depth of integration is complete and perfect, with even the digits of the prime Number 13 - 1 and 3 - reiterating yet again the Trinitarian nature of Unity which is both the origin and nature of Love. We were created by the Ever Blessed Trinity - this is the source of all Love, and the Nature of God, as it is written (I John 4.13):

Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Note the explicit Trinitarian reference to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Three Divine Persons united in Perfect Love."

Av is also the first word of the Hebrew language and it integrates with the alphanumeric structure of the First Word of the Bible - endless glory!

Here is a list of the primary associations between the Number 13 and God the Father:

    13 = Echad = Ahavah = Avi
    Echad is the Hebrew name of the Number 1, the Number of the Father in the Trinity.
    Echad, Ahavah, and Avi are all Aleph KeyWords that sum to 13
    The verb Ohav is the revelation of the Heart of the Father

Number 2: Image, Number of the Son

[Jesus Christ] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. [Colossians 1.15f]

The Number 2 is the Number of the Son, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity. It is also the value of the Second Letter Beyt, which is the initial of the Beyt KeyWord pic (Ben) meaning Son. In general, the Number 2 defines the Numerical Category subsuming concepts such as Duality, Reflection, Image, and Division (cf. The Dividing Line and the Second Commandment). It is deeply related to the Word (the linguistic image of an object) which is maximized on Spoke 2 and the idea of the Sword (Second Seal) - specifically the two-edged sword (cf. Logos Holograph). The Sword is the instrument of Division, causing duality, which integrates with the Division of the Waters on the Second Day and again in the Second Book. The cascading confluence of ideas relating to the Number 2 and God the Son is perhaps the most obvious in all Scripture.

Number 43: His Greatness, Exceeding Joy, and the Holy Spirit

And the disciples were filled with joy, and with the Holy Ghost. [Acts 13.52]

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine [The Son's]: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. [John 16.13]

And ye said, Behold, the LORD our God hath shewed us his glory and his greatness, and we have heard his voice out of the midst of the fire: we have seen this day that God doth talk with man, and he liveth. [Deuteronomy 5.24]

The Son came to glorify the Father. The Holy Spirit comes to glorify the Father and the Son. He is the expression of the power and love of God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. In the Spirit also is the fulness of Joy. Thus we read in Psalm 43:

O send out thy light and thy truth: let them lead me; let them bring me unto thy holy hill, and to thy tabernacles. Then will I go unto the altar of God, unto God my exceeding joy [Geel]: yea, upon the harp will I praise thee, O God my God [Elohim Elohi].

Note that both these words are Gimel KeyWords. We have a strong confluence of ideas relating to the Holy Spirit, the Number 43, and the letter Gimel (cf. The Abundant Giver).

The idea of sending forth "light and truth" in Psalm 43 is intimately linked to the character and role of the Holy Spirit, and relates strongly to the Letter Shin - the letter of Fire - governing Spoke 21. All of this is part of the divine integration of the order of Psalms with that of the Canon, with the words (Light, Truth) [Verify] forming a KeyLink between Psalm 43 and John (Book 43).

Psalm 43 relates to Holiness, Joy, and the Divine Name Elohim, which has the value of 86 = 2 x 43, generated by multiplying two primes from the Unity Holograph generating set, as discussed..."

The Unity Holograph


The Logos Star - Sevenfold geometric representation of the prime Number 373

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Deuteronomy 6.4f

When Jesus was asked to declare the greatest commandment, he quoted this verse. Its name, the Shema, is taken from the first word which means Hear. Modern Jews consider the recital of the Shema both evening and morning to be one of their most sacred duties, and heroes of the Jewish faith have been said to have died with the final letter Dalet still on their lips. Mystics refer to its recital as the Unification of the Name, and see it as one of the most direct routes to union with God.

The Shema opens with a statement of Unity followed by a Threefold commandment. The pattern based on One and Three is reiterated in the numerical weight of two of the fundamental terms used in the verse. In accordance with the Alphabet Table, we have...

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Unity.asp

The Divine Unity HyperHolograph

The Logos Star - Sevenfold geometric representation of the prime Number 373

Hear O Israel, the LORD our God, is one Lord. And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Deuteronomy 6.4f

The Holographic Generating Set (A = 27, B = 37, C = 73) reveals the geometric unity underlying the holographic structure of Holy Scripture. A beautifully simple variation on the theme of the Generating Set - based on the Number 6 - then generates the the Unity Holograph Generating Set (2, 13, 43). These two sets are then reveal the integration of the Divine Prologue and Unity Holographs, to produce the Divine Unity HyperHolograph.

The Divine Prologue divides into three segments that are each based on the Number 39, the value of ONE LORD from the Shema:

John 1.1   = 39 x 93 (Love)
John 1.2-5   = 39 x 592 (Godhead)
The same was in
the beginning   = 39 x 48 (Majesty)

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Unity_DP.asp

Creation HyperHolograph: Jesus and YHVH

The Logos Star - Sevenfold geometric representation of the prime Number 373

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

Colossians 2.9f

The discovery of the iota subscript transformed alphanumeric structure of the Divine Prologue from chaos to crystaline perfection. The entire structure studied in the last two articles completely disappears if it is neglected. I can testify from ten years of excruciatingly detailed study - witnessed by a database of over 18,000 alphanumeric identities - that there is no significant structure to be found in the Divine Prologue sans the iota subscipt. Oh! How this changed the moment I acknowledged the smallest of letters!

As noted in the Divine Prologue, we have the identity:

Sum of John 1.2-5 = 23088 = 39 (ONE LORD) x 592 (GODHEAD)

Rearranging the factors yields:

Sum of John 1.2-5 = 23088 = 26 (YHVH)x 888 (JESUS)

This identity is astounding beyond description! It is the product of two fundamental Divine Names, pic (YHVH) - from the Unity Holograph - and Jesus, the name above all names! Glory! And all this in John 1.2-5!

It is extremely important to realize that the meaning of these two numbers had already been fully established for years before I found them embedded in the alphanumeric structure of the verse above. The meaning of the Number 26 remains eternally established in the personal name God designed for Himself - pic (YHVH). Its integration with the other primary names of God in the Unity Holograph greatly magnifies its glory. Likewise, the Number 888 rings and reverberates with the everlasting glory of the Lord of lords, Jesus! Halellujah! Furthermore, both of these numbers occur together in Malachi 3.6:
I am the LORD, I change Not

Ani YHVH, Lo Shaniti = 888

The beauty of this identity is that the meaning of the verse is reflected in the form of the most symmetric number - 888 - which can be permuted, inverted and reflected in a mirror, all without change. To find these two numbers united in the Divine Prologue is simply too staggering to utter.

John is the Gospel of Light. The Divine Prologue links Creation and Light, just like Genesis 1. Rearranging the factors again now integrates the Number 23088 with the value of Genesis 1.4. We have the identity:

Sum of John 1.2-5 = 23088 = 13 x 1776 = 13 x 37 x 48
http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_Creation_JJ.asp

Does anyone's head hurt yet???   :shock: This is just scratching the surface. It is so complex you must go to each page and see/read them in their entirety; there are links within each page so it's an almost endless circle.  I just got into this a couple of days ago...
Good Luck & God Bless.

Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on April 06, 2011, 11:49:19 AM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
MsTrinity333, what you presented so well, might be what orthodox theologians understand the Bible to teach (that's my background), but is it what Michael thinks and believes?



I believe so bc of the duster he wore in This Is It...  :)
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MissG on April 06, 2011, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
I know Gema once asked the question, Is it that Michael mistakedly thought he was The Christ or that he IS the Christ. Now there's the rub, NOT that he is pointing to The Christ.  

 :) please, tell me where i wrote that question and in what context pls. I always defended the theory MJ said he was Christ like, not jesus. May be I did not understand the meaning of your post.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on April 06, 2011, 04:07:38 PM
I'm truly sorry that I made it sound like Gema agree with me, for she did not. I'm sorry I put the word "IS" in caps, not realizing it implied that she emphasized that--my bad. She was in fact emphasizing that MJ perhaps thought he was the Christ mistakedly. Anyway I'll have to go look, it was somewhere in the Visions thread.
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MJonmind on April 06, 2011, 04:44:58 PM
After spending some time looking unsuccessfully since it is a long thread, I will apologize again and ask to delete the comment I gave saying Gema said that just to make things better. Although I did find the post where you Gema said he was Christ-like. Again sorry! :oops:
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MissG on April 06, 2011, 05:13:50 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
After spending some time looking unsuccessfully since it is a long thread, I will apologize again and ask to delete the comment I gave saying Gema said that just to make things better. Although I did find the post where you Gema said he was Christ-like. Again sorry! :oops:

No need to be sorry  :lol: The visions thread was really confusing.

MJ=Christ like. Not Jesus, not the next jesus, not the antichrist. Just a person who followed Jesus philosophy :D
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: MsTrinity333 on December 28, 2011, 06:44:05 PM
I have an update concerning the PHYSICAL ARK:

Grant Jeffrey covers the True Ark; as in the physical one in part two of this series:  http://www.god.tv/node/192
I started with part one... this guy is one of the Best of the best concerning Bible Prophecy & End Times study, this whole series has guests from the very top of this field. I encourage everyone to listen to the whole series; both season 1 & 2. It's been a while since I've gone through them so I am personally going through all the links I have posted lately myself picking up important information I have forgotten. It's very interesting, in part two he says they have it...The Sanhedrin...in Jerusalem...the physical Ark. It's been brought back from Ethiopia.

All of Apocalypse & the End Times - Series 1:  http://www.god.tv/node/192
Apocalypse & the End Times - Series 2: http://www.god.tv/node/204
Title: Re: “The End Is Near” 777, ARK, WARNINGS...
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 28, 2011, 06:57:09 PM
Thread closed. Please copy your posts from this thread to the new forum: http://www.michaelsarmyoflove.com/forum/index.php?action=community

But please keep sharing hoax-related Biblical discussions on this forum!
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