Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: LiberianGirl on December 11, 2009, 11:18:49 AM
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Hi everyone. This post is for the ones who believe that TNZ is related to Michael. They never said directly that they're related to Michael but they mention it always! They're only Russian fans, nothing more. I know that they have smartass blogs but think twice to believe in those guys. Because they're giving you false hope! I hope Michael comes back on Jan 18th like they say but it's nothing they know and be sure of. It's just their opinion!
We all know that Murray is a real person. We saw him in the case but TNZ think that Murray is a photosop only, not a real person. You can see this on their main page. And remember their blog about body doubles in TII. They wrote that there were no body doubles in TII but I watched TII 5 times and I'm SURE that there were body doubles there. I know this as I know my name! So they were wrong about that too. And their last blog wasn't so nice. And later on someone sent me a friend request on Myspace and I accepted her. These are what she wrote to me about TNZ. I'm copying what she wrote to me:
Hi! You don't know me but i want to clear one thing
TNZ is in all of this from the first day.
Sorry my english. :)
At first it was part of forum for english speakers. Then it became closely and decided to create a page. 3rd month aniversary this myspace page only, but girls worked on the hoax about the end of June (do not remember exactly). :)
Yes i know them but please dont tell anybody my nickname. they will be very angry with me. they are very few now because of sharpness and arrogance. (google translate :))
Thank you for understanding me. :)
No, no connections and no work for MJ (although they want it badly )
Just fans. From our country.
We are from Russia. A lot of other members of our ex-forum, which are present in all hoax forums. Because of their (TNZ) position and relationship to other people many of us to condemn them and stop reading their page. So I try to tell people the truth but please never mention my name.
I will continue to spread the truth about them, but do not think that it is so important in fact. If someone does not want to read them, then do not read. If they are someone does not like, you can always pay no attention to them. I have not watched their site and was surprised by what they perceive as serious.Today, I accidentally wandered there, I saw your comment and decided to intervene.
They are simply trying to attract the attention of those who are in connection with Michael. No more. A large number of friends on myspace want for their popularity, because they think that when their chance to reach people (close to Michael) increase.
They are very smart girl, but very selfish and self-confident. that's all.
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If that is true then I have no other words then disgusting!
To play with our feelings like that only for their own selfishness, Michael would not like that at all I think!
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I told about it at least a week ago....Here
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=707 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=707)
Nobody has responded
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Thank you LiberianGirl - my impression from start-up.
Michael did not talk like that.
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I looked at that site once and it was enough to tell me not to bother with it again. :lol:
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I looked at that site once and it was enough to tell me not to bother with it again. :lol:
:lol: me too
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They are really sarcastic to some of their readers....
I never once bought that they were close to MJ. You will find that most people with investigation blogs tend to word their posts so that they seem mysterious, like they know something, or know michael. :P
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They are really sarcastic to some of their readers....
I never once bought that they were close to MJ. You will find that most people with investigation blogs tend to word their posts so that they seem mysterious, like they know something, or know michael. :P
It is the right decision ...
I am Russian myself, but I am ashamed of them, though I even do not know them ...
Please, dont think all Russians are the same....Iam not, I am completely different person
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Actually some of their answers are always full of grammatical mistakes. I always found something fishy about them and now I'm sure that they're only fans and their IP adress is from Russia as well. Some people even think that Michael is writing on their blogs and that's such a shame that they disparage Michael's name like this. They should have warned people and told them they're only fans, making their own investigation. Shame on them doing such a thing and giving people false hopes.
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The BAM's day was actually about TNZ themselves.
BAM being the sound of their brutal crash down after they have been unmasked.
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I don't follow then lately...I just lost my interest. One thing though, Michael ...LOVE said that behind thisisalsoit.com is Sony, but I knew it was TNZ (or was I wrong?).... :?:
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The BAM's day was actually about TNZ themselves.
BAM being the sound of their brutal crash down after they have been unmasked.
I totally agree with you and i want to apologize on behalf of all the people of Russia for theirs disgusting behaviour. :oops:
We all know, God doesn`t forget anything and anybody...
I am ashamed...but neither I nor the other girls from the site http://jacksonlive.mybb.ru (http://jacksonlive.mybb.ru) have neither part nor lot in theirs dishonest action!
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The BAM's day was actually about TNZ themselves.
BAM being the sound of their brutal crash down after they have been unmasked.
:lol:
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I'm happy to see that someone has finally looked beyond the "smoke and mirrors". You guys do know that TNZ are the ones behind the thisisalsoit.com redirects? I at least hope a few of you picked up on that...
:lol:
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P.S. My apologies for not speaking up a couple months ago :(
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don't worry, what counts is the result in the end ;-)
TIAI was said to be Sony's source - any confirmation available now who is doing it finally?
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P.S. My apologies for not speaking up a couple months ago :(
I am very sorry, honestly, believe me..... :(
But i wasnt here a couple months ago.....
I am here only for ten days, and i have tried to tell about this, scroll up and you`ll see my post..
Did anyone hear that? No!
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Sony has nothing to do with the hoax. I can tell you that much ;) Besides, do a whois look-up...Sony doesn't use GoDaddy for domain registrations for any of their websites and if I recall, someone called Sony tech support or something and confirmed this some time ago.
Here's somethin'...I recall a wise man once saying..."Follow the wrong leader and you'll be led right off of a cliff".
What's funny is this guy was sooo right and he told everyone this a couple months ago or so, but so many of you didn't listen. Now a whole lot of you are on a wild goose chase. Instead of listening to what someone else is feeding you...follow you heart and MIND. Remember, Mind is the MAGIC.
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P.S. My apologies for not speaking up a couple months ago :(
I am very sorry, honestly, believe me..... :(
But i wasnt here a couple months ago.....
I've been here only for ten days, and i tried to tell about this, scroll up and you`ll see my post..
Did anyone hear that? No!
You're on the right path... ;)
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Hey guys,
I am looking after those TNZ stuffers for a long time. I used to be their fan at the beginning, but now I see that it's not as simple as I thought...
I can ask my friend to try to check their ip adresses. I am not sure it is possible, but I am keeping the idea and need to ask my friend. Do you think it might work? I will try... (blush-)
I cannot keep quiet anymore! I need someone to help me structure my emotions.
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Hey guys,
I am looking after those TNZ stuffers for a long time. I used to be their fan at the beginning, but now I see that it's not as simple as I thought...
I can ask my friend to try to check their ip adresses. I am not sure it is possible, but I am keeping the idea and need to ask my friend. Do you think it might work? I will try... (blush-)
I cannot keep quiet anymore! I need someone to help me structure my emotions.
Unfortunately, we won't be able to grab their ip's. They're sneaky ;)
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P.S. My apologies for not speaking up a couple months ago :(
Some of us warned the forum about them, but that was in vain. It looks people were not yet ready to hear what we had to say.
But the truth always make its way at the end. But that was painful to see people follow that bunch of arrogant fakers.
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Interesting coincidence:
as soon as I removed them from MySpace friendlist, I received a spoof hack mail that they would follow my twitter. Too bad that my twitter is locked and such a mail is literally impossible... :lol:
(These twitter hack mails happen once in a while, never click on any link provided with twitter mails. It's like ebay or paypal mails with spoof content. They want to get your password to abuse your account. Always check in directly on twitter.com)
The IP for that hack mail - be it originated from TNZ or not - is 128.121.146.151 which is at NTT, Centennial, Colorado.
MySpace is registered with Networksolutions at Drums, Pennsylvania.
TNZ material on their MySpace is loading from the domain LJPLUS.RU so outside of any prosecution, liability claim or copyright claim.
They are indeed having a lot of time.
They could not only be distributing their imaginations but also be collecting contacts - and I would be very careful with giving them any personal information.
We in Europe are used to tons of spam, spoof and phishing from eastern European countries. So sad it is, some folks have developped their talents in web crimes. Once the spam and phishing came from Ukraine, Romania, South Africa and China only.
Unfortunately, you cannot get a hold on these people and stop them so be careful. :mrgreen:
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Interesting coincidence:
The IP for that hack mail - be it originated from TNZ or not - is 128.121.146.151 which is at NTT, Centennial, Colorado.
COLORADO? For reals? I live in Colorado :o
Whois query for 128.121.146.151...
Results returned from whois.arin.net:
OrgName: NTT America, Inc.
OrgID: NTTAM-1
Address: 8005 South Chester Street
Address: Suite 200
City: Centennial
StateProv: CO
PostalCode: 80112
Country: US
ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.gin.ntt.net:4321/ (http://rwhois://rwhois.gin.ntt.net:4321/)
NetRange: 128.121.0.0 - 128.121.255.255
CIDR: 128.121.0.0/16
NetName: NTTA-128-121
NetHandle: NET-128-121-0-0-1
Parent: NET-128-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: AUTH21.NS.GIN.NTT.NET
NameServer: AUTH22.NS.GIN.NTT.NET
NameServer: AUTH23.NS.GIN.NTT.NET
NameServer: AUTH24.NS.GIN.NTT.NET
NameServer: AUTH25.NS.GIN.NTT.NET
Comment:
Comment: Reassignment information for this block is
Comment: available at rwhois.gin.ntt.net port 4321
RegDate: 2000-07-11
Updated: 2007-06-14
RTechHandle: VIA4-ORG-ARIN
RTechName: VIPAR
RTechPhone: +1-877-688-6625
RTechEmail: abuse@ntt.net (http://mailto:abuse@ntt.net)
OrgNOCHandle: NASC-ARIN
OrgNOCName: NTT America Support Contact
OrgNOCPhone: +1-877-688-6625
OrgNOCEmail: vipar@us.ntt.net (http://mailto:vipar@us.ntt.net)
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2009-12-11 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
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I`ve just talked with a girl from our forum, she told me the one of the organizers of TNZ is Russian but she lives in America. Consequently, her ip may be an American.
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Ohh and btw I want to warn you guys for someone. She's one of the TNZ staff. Her name on Myspace is Jollymonday. She wrote me exactly the same wrods with TNZ and she was the only one who was trying to defend TNZ. And btw she told me that how I knew that she wasn't Michael Jackson. She also wrote JollyMonday is shortly JM and JM=MJ like Man in the Mirror :lol: They want to believe that they're all Michael Jacksons :lol:
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On their Twibbon.com account, TNZ said, they were located in New York.
* Name: True News Zone
* Location: New York
* Web: http://www.myspace.com/true.. (http://www.myspace.com/true..).
* Bio: Independent Media Band
* Joined: 10/15/2009 9:24:35 PM
* Tweets: 341
* Supporters: 0
* Causes Created: 0
* Causes Supported: 0
What's being said about...
TrueNewsZone
AntHarn @TrueNewsZone Is this also about religion? 3 hours ago reply
houdinisghost @TrueNewsZone When are you guys going to finally fess up about the thisisalsoit.com redirects? lol 2 hours ago reply
(I do not believe them one single word.)
They are really rude - and so many people are getting involved because they are so much longing for answers. It is really a shame.
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Sony has nothing to do with the hoax. I can tell you that much ;) Besides, do a whois look-up...Sony doesn't use GoDaddy for domain registrations for any of their websites and if I recall, someone called Sony tech support or something and confirmed this some time ago.
Here's somethin'...I recall a wise man once saying..."Follow the wrong leader and you'll be led right off of a cliff".
What's funny is this guy was sooo right and he told everyone this a couple months ago or so, but so many of you didn't listen. Now a whole lot of you are on a wild goose chase. Instead of listening to what someone else is feeding you...follow you heart and MIND. Remember, Mind is the MAGIC.
I would like to know what Michael's connection with Sony is. You know something about it? Because I think it was in July I heard from some fans that Sony hired Mottola back and we all know how Michael hates Mottola. So how can Sony be on Michael's side? :?
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Hello guys ,
sorry for my English, it´s not my mother language.
it's really interesting what you are talking about TNZ. I just want to say that as i know in every hoax forum in each country were several insiders from the start. they controled discussions and turned it into "right way".i don't know who they are, but they are tooooo profi to be just fans.
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Hello guys ,
sorry for my English, it´s not my mother language.
it's really interesting what you are talking about TNZ. I just want to say that as i know in every hoax forum in each country were several insiders from the start. they controled discussions and turned it into "right way".i don't know who they are, but they are tooooo profi to be just fans.
My graphic designer friend makes better web pages than TNZ's. So it's no big deal to have a web page like that and you don't need to be a professional ;)
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Hmmm, sounds to me like they are the same as all the sites so many of us are on. I like that they think outside the box and was quite impressed with their last post. Putting it up showed me they are more concerned with the truth than having more people follow them.That's just my opinion though
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Sony has nothing to do with the hoax. I can tell you that much ;) Besides, do a whois look-up...Sony doesn't use GoDaddy for domain registrations for any of their websites and if I recall, someone called Sony tech support or something and confirmed this some time ago.
Here's somethin'...I recall a wise man once saying..."Follow the wrong leader and you'll be led right off of a cliff".
What's funny is this guy was sooo right and he told everyone this a couple months ago or so, but so many of you didn't listen. Now a whole lot of you are on a wild goose chase. Instead of listening to what someone else is feeding you...follow you heart and MIND. Remember, Mind is the MAGIC.
I would like to know what Michael's connection with Sony is. You know something about it? Because I think it was in July I heard from some fans that Sony hired Mottola back and we all know how Michael hates Mottola. So how can Sony be on Michael's side? :?
It is common knowledge that Mikey was at war with Tommy Mottola and Sony a few years ago. As far as I know Mottola has not returned to Sony. Rolf Schmidt-Holtz is the current CEO of Sony Music. Sony is only on Michael's side for the $$$ and they got screwed after the song "This Is It" was released. lol
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What's being said about...
TrueNewsZone
AntHarn @TrueNewsZone Is this also about religion? 3 hours ago reply
houdinisghost @TrueNewsZone When are you guys going to finally fess up about the thisisalsoit.com redirects? lol 2 hours ago reply
Hey! You read my tweets? :lol:
So far they have not responded to my tweet. Surprise, surprise!
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Hello guys ,
sorry for my English, it´s not my mother language.
it's really interesting what you are talking about TNZ. I just want to say that as i know in every hoax forum in each country were several insiders from the start. they controled discussions and turned it into "right way".i don't know who they are, but they are tooooo profi to be just fans.
My graphic designer friend makes better web pages than TNZ's. So it's no big deal to have a web page like that and you don't need to be a professional ;)
They definitely got a video/film editor on board though...
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I looked at that site once and it was enough to tell me not to bother with it again. :lol:
haha me too , their myspace page is so ugly so crowded , looks crazy , and in twitter I find them kinda harsh with people ...
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I want to warn visitors about the possibility of the appearance of numerous posts, defending TNZ and trying to convince ppl they work for or with Michael and maybe even know him personally, because we talked about whats going here on the Russian site today and they could read and now they`re informed. They`re just a sick or nuts...They had tried to do the same stuff on russian forum. They were all banned.
They can write under different nicknames here.
Do not trust those users who registering today and who have only 1 or 2 posts, especially if they will be posting about TNZ....
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DID YOU SEE THEIR TWEET "Act of provocation is a perhaps good way to come to know your companion. Not the only one"
hmm, What I think all about it: they want that you speak about them and once be mad of them, they do it with their posts but now they want go further and want not only on myspace to be discussed, also in every hoax forums ,and they did this with russian, I wonder why they don´t delete these comments that they are russian, I have no trust now to all russian here , we speak about it more and more and that´s what they need,
If the autor (Liberial Girl) said his/ her reall name I would have no more questions ,but on the other side he/she said us important Info ,why we need to believe you ,you need to be honest with us, MAY BE he/she is one from TNZ bunch and give here the rythm ,I don´t want to be manipulated no matter from russian or someone else BASTA.
No, I don´t believe that they are fans…. C´mon, what the fucking Fans can they be???????????
NO ONE FAN WILL ALLOW HIMSELF TO TALK ABOUT MICHAEL IN THAT WAY.
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IMHO there is too much time dedicated in setting up their site and twittering around. Almost all the time there is someone online. These cannot be fans or they would be living from some heavenly manna raining without any effort.
Always look for the source of money and what the result of action may be.
What could be a result of the attempts of destabilizing the U.S. with so-called proof of conspiracies around NWO, Kennedy, 911 etc.? Who would profit from it?
Who would profit from spreading fear, doubt, anger?
Was it coincidence that siberian servers were likely used for the late hack of emails with reference to Copenhagen?:
http://intelligencenews.wordpress.com/2 ... 07/03-119/ (http://intelligencenews.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/03-119/)
Is Russia as home of the TNZ servers just by accident the home of the content?
Who could have an interest in distracting us from what we are here for and in trying to redirect our energy in other channels?
As much as we do love Michael, there are people quite well aware of this fact and strength and of the potential power behind the name of Michael. This was the case on June 25 and is still today like that.
It is also clear that some don't want the veil to be lifted and some are covering their backs up and some want to abuse the power behind Michael.
I am very sceptical about all the energy put into TIAI and TNZ and whoever wants to convince by all means. Just my 2 cents on this.
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IMHO there is too much time dedicated in setting up their site and twittering around. Almost all the time there is someone online. These cannot be fans or they would be living from some heavenly manna raining without any effort.
Always look for the source of money and what the result of action may be.
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I am very sceptical about all the energy put into TIAI and TNZ and whoever wants to convince by all means. Just my 2 cents on this.
Me too ! But what puzzles me is the reason why they would try to manipulate us. I first thought that was political, but thinking well, who are we ?
We're not the average MJ fans. We are those who believe he might be alive, and we're a minority. We are not the best way to spread information, because most of us don't talk about the hoax, even to our families and friends.
If they want to touch a wide public they'd better go to the regular MJ forums and try to convince them that Michael was murdered, and then sell their plot theories.
From this point of view, directing their message to this group is a mistake.
And to reply to your wise post on the locked thread, I think that whole experience (and the meeting with people like TNZ) is a great way to discover by ourselves, and at our own expenses, the kind of ill-intentioned people Michael had to deal with during his whole life.
It's something impossible to imagine and one has to experience it to know what it's like.
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DID YOU SEE THEIR TWEET "Act of provocation is a perhaps good way to come to know your companion. Not the only one"
hmm, What I think all about it: they want that you speak about them and once be mad of them, they do it with their posts but now they want go further and want not only on myspace to be discussed, also in every hoax forums ,and they did this with russian, I wonder why they don´t delete these comments that they are russian, I have no trust now to all russian here , we speak about it more and more and that´s what they need,
If the autor (Liberial Girl) said his/ her reall name I would have no more questions ,but on the other side he/she said us important Info ,why we need to believe you ,you need to be honest with us, MAY BE he/she is one from TNZ bunch and give here the rythm ,I don´t want to be manipulated no matter from russian or someone else BASTA.
No, I don´t believe that they are fans…. C´mon, what the fucking Fans can they be???????????
NO ONE FAN WILL ALLOW HIMSELF TO TALK ABOUT MICHAEL IN THAT WAY.
I'm sorry but I really didn't get what you are trying to say? You need my name because? I don't get what you're trying to say? You mean that TNZ works for Michael and that's the reason why they humiliate MJ's fans? So I would say think twice about it ;) I'm here if you want to ask something to me.
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I want to warn visitors about the possibility of the appearance of numerous posts, defending TNZ and trying to convince ppl they work for or with Michael and maybe even know him personally, because we talked about whats going here on the Russian site today and they could read and now they`re informed. They`re just a sick or nuts...They had tried to do the same stuff on russian forum. They were all banned.
They can write under different nicknames here.
Do not trust those users who registering today and who have only 1 or 2 posts, especially if they will be posting about TNZ....
This is the ONLY reason why I wanted to warn people who believe that they're related to Michael because I'mSURE that they're NOT! Sometimes their answers are full of grammatical mistakes. And they showed Murray as a photoshop imaginary characeter but we know that he's someone real, right? ;)
If you want to keep on believing that they work for Michael, it's your choice. All I'm saying is THEY MAY GIVE YOU FALSE HOPE!
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Hello guys ,
sorry for my English, it´s not my mother language.
it's really interesting what you are talking about TNZ. I just want to say that as i know in every hoax forum in each country were several insiders from the start. they controled discussions and turned it into "right way".i don't know who they are, but they are tooooo profi to be just fans.
My graphic designer friend makes better web pages than TNZ's. So it's no big deal to have a web page like that and you don't need to be a professional ;)
They definitely got a video/film editor on board though...
Still no big deal. We all have jobs and we're fans also :)
Ahh thank you for your answer about Sony. I'm happy to hear about Mottola not being back at Sony. :D
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did this with russian, I wonder why they don´t delete these comments that they are russian, I have no trust now to all russian here , we speak about it more and more and that´s what they need,
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You are mistaken and your words make me hurt....
Do you want to know why i am posting here?
Ok..I`ll tell you why!
I am sure Michael is reading this forum.
I dont want he would think Russians are all horrible only because of dirty tricks made by sick people ( i mean TNZ )
I dont want him would write another song " Stranger in Moscow "
I want him to know Russia love him so much
I want him to come to Moscow...( and many-many other things I want to, but it`s private)
Here are the reasons why, nothing more!
And it is the most important for me.
Do not judge and blame people if you dont know them at all.
Not all of russian are the same!
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I want to warn visitors about the possibility of the appearance of numerous posts, defending TNZ and trying to convince ppl they work for or with Michael and maybe even know him personally, because we talked about whats going here on the Russian site today and they could read and now they`re informed. They`re just a sick or nuts...They had tried to do the same stuff on russian forum. They were all banned.
They can write under different nicknames here.
Do not trust those users who registering today and who have only 1 or 2 posts, especially if they will be posting about TNZ....
This is the ONLY reason why I wanted to warn people who believe that they're related to Michael because I'mSURE that they're NOT! Sometimes their answers are full of grammatical mistakes. And they showed Murray as a photoshop imaginary characeter but we know that he's someone real, right? ;)
If you want to keep on believing that they work for Michael, it's your choice. All I'm saying is THEY MAY GIVE YOU FALSE HOPE!
Exactly!
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did this with russian, I wonder why they don´t delete these comments that they are russian, I have no trust now to all russian here , we speak about it more and more and that´s what they need,
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You are mistaken and your words make me hurt....
Do you want to know why i am posting here?
Ok..I`ll tell you why!
I am sure Michael is reading this forum.
I dont want he would think Russians are all horrible only because of dirty tricks made by sick people ( i mean TNZ )
I dont want him would write another song " Stranger in Moscow "
I want him to know Russia love him so much
I want him to come to Moscow...( and many-many other things I want to, but it`s private)
Here are the reasons why, nothing more!
And it is the most important for me.
Do not judge and blame people if you dont know them at all.
Not all of russian are the same!
Not all Russian fans should get offended and NONE of you should think that all Russian fans are the same! I just wrote that they're Russian because people found their IP adress and it's from Russia also. That's the ONLY reason why I wrote where they are from. Their nationality is not important, the thing they are doing is important.
And the thing they're doing is very wrong. They say that Michael is going to come back on Jan. 18th and people belive in them. I HOPE he comes back on that day but WHAT IF HE DOESN'T? What would all those people feel like? Why don't they say they're no way related to Michael.
Plus, on their last blog I had an argument with those guys because I believe that they INSULT us with their words! They shortly say that "Michael is obviously alive, so why do you still look to find the truth and whimper on other boards?" Also they find us INTELLECTUALLY WEAK people and they also wrote that we don't deserve Michael! These are very wrong and stupid words to use for us! And I can never ever except that! I can not believe how people say that they like their blog and I don't believe that they really liked it. If so, what are you doing here and looking for the truth still if you're that sure of everything about this hoax? Be honest and see what people are trying to do and don't be their puppets. That's what I'm saying only.