Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Neverland => Topic started by: bubaliciousjlb on August 09, 2010, 04:19:53 AM
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according to this vid by e'cas michael still owns neverland. he says that michael made a deal and he was getting everything back including neverland. and the date that he recieves his property would have been on june 25th 09. heres the link to the vid.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... d=56178974 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=56178974)
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i still think that is where he is staying. everyone thinks he would never go back there.
could it be that was part of the plan to get everyone to think this.
that way he could go there and none would be the wiser.
what better place to hid out.
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I couldn't agree more with you! I have always believed that MJ is at Neverland and, yes, no one would be the wiser for it!!!!!
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Anybody here, live near there?
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Suddenly I to remember " the ghost " of Neverland :lol:
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I wouldnt be surprised. Its a great place to hide out, his kids and family can visit and nobody would know. It's a very seclusive place.
And besides no matter who "owns" Neverland due to contract or financial agreement or whatever, Neverland will always belong to Michael in my opinion. :) He's made his mark there and no one can take that away. Neverland is his and always will be.
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i just keep thinking about all the CEMENT TRUCKS going there.
thinking it was for the green screen at Forrest Lawn.
but who knows he may have had something else in mind.
like making it safer for him and the kids to be there.
Hugsssssssssssssssssssssss to Michael and the kids.
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This is really interesting because I thought that all of these Michael possessions that have been touring the world were done as a result of Michael's death.
However, it appears that Michael agreed to this exhibit before he died...therefore it didn't start out as a tribute to the "late" King of Pop. Am I right?
I've been wondering about Neverland all along. It's a place where helicopters have landed, cement has been delivered, security still seems to exist, improvements are being made, private concerts are being performed, etc. For what...or better, for whom?
I didn't really hear where it was said that Michael was getting Neverland back on June 25th. Can someone clear that up for me? Thanks.
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I may be visiting Neverland on Sunday. :)
BTW, is it open? I mean, the roads and stuff?
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I Would be very interested to know what it feels like there now at neverland can you let us know after your Sunday trip there
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I will. :)
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I may be visiting Neverland on Sunday. :)
BTW, is it open? I mean, the roads and stuff?
I went to Neverland back in January and yes the roads are open they will lead you straight up to the gate. I had a great adventure getting there I hope you have better directions than I did we got lost a couple of times but the people that live around there were very nice and friendly and directed us right to it. I hope you have a great adventure as well.
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I wouldnt be surprised. Its a great place to hide out, his kids and family can visit and nobody would know. It's a very seclusive place.
And besides no matter who "owns" Neverland due to contract or financial agreement or whatever, Neverland will always belong to Michael in my opinion. :) He's made his mark there and no one can take that away. Neverland is his and always will be.
Wouldn't that be funny if MJ was under our noses all of this time? We were all trying to see if he was overseas somewhere. MJ is very clever I must say. But in all honesty, nothing that he has done, ever will do will surprise me. Afterall, he's Michael Jackson! Keep the Faith!
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This is really interesting because I thought that all of these Michael possessions that have been touring the world were done as a result of Michael's death.
However, it appears that Michael agreed to this exhibit before he died...therefore it didn't start out as a tribute to the "late" King of Pop. Am I right?
I've been wondering about Neverland all along. It's a place where helicopters have landed, cement has been delivered, security still seems to exist, improvements are being made, private concerts are being performed, etc. For what...or better, for whom?
I didn't really hear where it was said that Michael was getting Neverland back on June 25th. Can someone clear that up for me? Thanks.
I am glad I am not the only one that feels that way about Neverland. I have been curious about it since last October. The concrete was delivered after the interviews Jermaine did there with Matt Lauer and Larry King. A few months later we hear that Oranthi or whatever her name is did a concert there but it was very hush-hush. TMZ didn't even report it! I think someone found the information on twitter. I have checked regularly and have found no articles or reports on Neverland since then. I find that very odd. It would be the perfect place for Michael to hide. The acreage around the house provides security and privacy. It has even been hard to pull it up on google earth lately. That is strange as well.
I am glad someone will be going out there soon. Please let us know what you see!
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There was all this talk about how Michael would never return to Neverland and he doesn't consider it a home, so maybe that's why we overlooked it... :lol:
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I may be visiting Neverland on Sunday. :)
BTW, is it open? I mean, the roads and stuff?
WOW THIS IS GREAT. can't wait to hear what you find.
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Reminds me of this nice "little" thread. :)
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5227 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5227)
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Sorry the pictures are VERY big. I can't resize them from my BB.
In my opinion, the vibe there was great! It was a bit sad seeing all the R.I.Ps, but there were plenty "I beLIEve"s around. :) I met a nice french woman, and we talked about the hoax (in my broken french of course.) She thought it wasn't possible, but she seemed interested. Then I wrote my message on a stone on the path stones, but in my eyeliner, because I forgot to bring a sharpie. :lol: It was an overall amazing experience. Even my mom said it felt amazing there. You could feel the love. It was a truly breathtaking experience.
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Thank you for sharing your pictures Loma! I am glad that you were able to go. Did you see anyone come or go from the property while you were there? And did you see anything unusual? Blessings :)
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Thank you for sharing your pictures Loma! I am glad that you were able to go. Did you see anyone come or go from the property while you were there? And did you see anything unusual? Blessings :)
Yes!
There were actually a couple of cars coming in an out. All SUVs.
Then when we got out of our car, one of the SUVs pulled up to that little booth you see there and he went inside and watched everything.
In general, it was all pretty cool. You couldn't really see much more, since the road went wayy farther into the distance.
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WOW thank you for sharing LOMA
SUV's hmmmmmmmm interesting bet they all had tinted windows.
I still Believe that Michael and the Kids are there.
if so we know he is safe.
OOOOOOOOOOO I FORGOT TO ASK WHAT DID THE GATES LOOK LIKE DO THEY STILL SAY NEVERLAND OR ARE THEY DIFFERENT. :?:
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Yep. The windows were tinted.
The gates were painted a dark brown color, and they no longer said "Neverland". In a picture I posted, you can see where the name plaque was removed.
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thx for sharing Loma, u're a lucky one to see all that beauty, i have always been sure that MJ will never get rid of Neverland, maybe he decided not to live there anymore cause of bad memories but he has always stated that Neverland is him, it's his nature, his soul, his creation, his magic, it's pretty possible that he lives there now, none will ever suspend that Michael is there now, just behind their nose.
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Thank you so much once again LOMA
lucky you to go there and see it for yourself and just think. Michael could have been inside watching you on one of the security cams :D
I he must be there. would be the only place none would think of looking for him.
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Thank you very much for sharing the pictures! :)
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Thanks for the pics...did you go up and talk to anybody or ask any questions to anyone at all?
What kind of vibe did you feel when you were there?
Iam nosey and would march up to somebody myself but that is me :)
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thanks for sharing the pix with us.. :D
i spy a security cam.. :D
huggs n faith
suzz
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If Michael is at Neverland, all my prayers will have been answered. Neverland and Michael are synonymous. He envisioned what he wanted, what he missed out on as a child, and made it come true. It was his baby, born out of childhood lost. If he is there, God bless him. No one or nothing should have been able to pull them apart. I cried so hard when he said he would never go back there. He looked so defeated and like his whole world had crumbled and fell into a pit. I wanted so fiercely for him to just curse them all to hell and show them that HELL NO, you can't take this from me. I wanted Michael to fight just one more time like he did with Matolla and show them that they couldn't get the best of him. Neverland was his. He would rid it of all the demons they left there and make it even greater than before they put their filthy hands on it and made it dirty. I swear I wanted to tell them for him. Tell all of them to leave Michael Jackson alone. Dammit he won. He was free. Back the hell off and kiss his arse.
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What a beautiful place. it's the only place his ghost is said to be. Don't blame it! :lol: Seriously, I think he at least comes here often. I posted elsewhere that he could easily be disguised as a security guard, maintenance man, etc. and travel about easily. I don't think he's here all the time. He has tons of experience and friends in high places who can whisk him about secretly, under the radar. He has to oversee this grandiose ARG.
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The place was chocked full of cameras. In the trees y todo.
There was one guy there, but he hurried out of the SUV into that little hut thingy. I said "Hey", but he just looked at me, and walked away. It was awkward. :lol:
Once again, the vibe was amazing. I was a strong believer in the past that Michael is in Neverland, but this just did it for me. I could feel so much love there, it really took my breath away.
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Thankyou for the photos I was starting to think that neverland would be starting to look run down and unloved but your pictures show the opposite when you google earth the place just looks brown and barren but you have shown that i am wrong and i am happy about that Neverland is a special place for so many years we have read about the place and it is so important a place .thankyou.
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The place was chocked full of cameras. In the trees y todo.
There was one guy there, but he hurried out of the SUV into that little hut thingy. I said "Hey", but he just looked at me, and walked away. It was awkward. :lol:
Once again, the vibe was amazing. I was a strong believer in the past that Michael is in Neverland, but this just did it for me. I could feel so much love there, it really took my breath away.
Thank you! It seems although that place was robbed of the "love" it once had and Michael felt for it i think it sounds like perhaps the feeling is restored. The pics do show a very picturesque and beautiful place how we always new Neverland to be
Funny how nobody wanted to talk, chat, etc isnt it?
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Funny how nobody wanted to talk, chat, etc isnt it?
Well yeah, but then again, my voice isn't much of a voice, more like a squeak. :lol:
I was a bit surprised though, only maybe 5 people came by in the whole time I was there on a Sunday!
Yep the place was gorgeous! There was a gardener there watering and stuff. I wonder who hired him?
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Funny how nobody wanted to talk, chat, etc isnt it?
Well yeah, but then again, my voice isn't much of a voice, more like a squeak. :lol:
I was a bit surprised though, only maybe 5 people came by in the whole time I was there on a Sunday!
Yep the place was gorgeous! There was a gardener there watering and stuff. I wonder who hired him?
I would have marched up to people and demand they talk to me LOL
Hmmm wonder...who does the hiring? ....
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Thanks loma, is a beautiful place ;)
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seems to me that going back to neverland would be a sort of giving sneddon and his helpers the finger. ;)
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seems to me that going back to neverland would be a sort of giving sneddon and his helpers the finger. ;)
Agreed. :lol:
People who say they don't think Michael EVER vistied NVLND after the hoax started, I must say, it is possible.
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Thankyou for the photos I was starting to think that neverland would be starting to look run down and unloved but your pictures show the opposite when you google earth the place just looks brown and barren but you have shown that i am wrong and i am happy about that Neverland is a special place for so many years we have read about the place and it is so important a place .thankyou.
It really is wonderful news to know that such a special place as Neverland has not been run down...It's a special place...I have noticed also that it is very difficult to google earth Neverland. It actually jumps right over that address! And I believe that Neverland is still a No-Fly-Zone. I haven't heard any news about that being lifted. Hmmm, all basis seem to be very well covered... ;)
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:) thanx for the pics Loma, indeed is a wonderful and peaceful place to be....i can imagine u leaving the place and being inside of ur car, lookin back and saying ''Goodbye Michael''....am i right??? :P
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You are so generous for posting these photos. Thank you for bringing me a moment of peace and hope in the midst of a restless night.
Love and Hugs
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Loma, your pics gave me goosebumps. They're beautiful, and for what it's worth I'm happy that you couldn't resize them. It gives viewers a much better idea of what the small piece of paradise (here on earth) that MJ owned, looks like. Thanks. :D
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Yep. The windows were tinted.
The gates were painted a dark brown color, and they no longer said "Neverland". In a picture I posted, you can see where the name plaque was removed.
...thats strange.. correct me if im wrong but i could swear the entire gate was removed and taken to that auction? So... how're they still there just painted?? :?
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Yep. The windows were tinted.
The gates were painted a dark brown color, and they no longer said "Neverland". In a picture I posted, you can see where the name plaque was removed.
...thats strange.. correct me if im wrong but i could swear the entire gate was removed and taken to that auction? So... how're they still there just painted?? :?
I've been to Neverland a few times (well, not Neverland Neverland, but the gate). I believe there are 2 gates - one "public one" (brown and without any indication of Neverland, although they did have a sign saying "Neverland, Once upon a time" after June 25th). And then there are the official gates, but you can't even see them from the first gates. When I was there, there was a LOT of land after the first gates. Just a lot of land with nothing on it. So standing behind the first gates you can't even tell if the Neverland gate is still there.
It was interesting though - last time I went (September 2010), I saw about 5 black SUVs driving in within about 10 minutes. I thought it was odd.
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Yep. The windows were tinted.
The gates were painted a dark brown color, and they no longer said "Neverland". In a picture I posted, you can see where the name plaque was removed.
...thats strange.. correct me if im wrong but i could swear the entire gate was removed and taken to that auction? So... how're they still there just painted?? :?
So, I guess it's a place with no name
;)
If I read correctly, the tomb still has no name, Neverland has no name........just interesting.
Blessings Always!
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When we visited Neverland end of July 2010 I got the feeling that Michael was still there. Anyway, I was like :o 8-) when 3 or 4 dark cars were fastly passing the gate. I think he still owns it... I hope he is.
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I have a friend who was blessed to visit during it's peak. MJ would always allow certain non-profits for children to visit (once per year), and she was asked to accompany an employee (who was a friend of hers). She isn't a fan but raved about how gorgeous the place was and that although he wasn't there (infortunately), the staff treated them as if he was looking over their shoulder. They catered to their every need, being attentive, serving a gourmet lunch (bar-b-que, sides with fresh fruit and desserts). She said that hosting events as such and the upkeep of the ranch had to have cost a fortune. They rode every ride there several times--and weren't rushed to leave. The only negative thing that she mentioned was that it was hard to enjoy the feast because there was a pretty bad infestation of flies (due to the animals). Besides that, she said that it was equivalent to Disneyland if not better because everything was so convenient. It's sad that you don't hear alot of these stories when SEVERAL people have benefit from his generosity. :roll:
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Quick thought - Michael's 45th birthday speech... a few things he mentioned: that he was starting a clothing line...a fan communication centre...making neverland more accessible...and a few more "wonderful surprises" that he didnt want to "give too much away" ??
Soo.... we know he was working on a clothing line just before his "death"...there have been numerous 'communication centres' started.. including this one... and now with neverland changing? Doesnt it make you wonder what the 'surprises' were? ;)
L.O.V.E
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Yep. The windows were tinted.
The gates were painted a dark brown color, and they no longer said "Neverland". In a picture I posted, you can see where the name plaque was removed.
...thats strange.. correct me if im wrong but i could swear the entire gate was removed and taken to that auction? So... how're they still there just painted?? :?
The original gates weren't painted. I was just explaining the color of the new gates.