Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Talk => Topic started by: Lady J on December 13, 2009, 09:48:57 AM
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Sorry I don´t know where to put posts according to his "followers"
One follower who often met him (her name is Talitha) writes on facebook: "How long more until he comes back?"
I don´t think that they know about the hoax, but this is strange.
And another follower answered:
Justin Carl: "Soon Talithaa" soon.
THIS IS STRANGE!!!
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However, Yes in that was good strangely ... ;) Thanks
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I heard this Talitha was very close to him...
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can u gie me the link from her FB?
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can u gie me the link from her FB?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Talitha- ... /822520710 (http://www.facebook.com/people/Talitha-Lemington/822520710)
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There are many who claim to know him. I will take claims like this with a pinch of salt. It is one thing following and hanging around wiating for a glimpse of Michael, and as we know he would never ignore his fans but an entirely differnt matter in claims of being "close to him". Michael was a very private person. Please do not be taken in by claims on these such websites as we have been fooled in the past. If anyone was so close to Michael, cared for him and actually knew what was going on with the hoax then they would not reveal anything unless Michael (if he is ever) was going to reveal all. Please do not encourage them.
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I am so glad that someone brought this up. I only learned of the Followers after joining mjkit. Mj had heavy security staff. Who really had that much access to him when he was under such heavy guard? There was never really a clear knowledge of who was an innocent fan versus who could be some pyschotic fan determined to get to him at any cost.
I didn't ask the question when I first heard the term Follower but I will ask now. What is the difference between a Follower and a stalker?
borrowed from wiki definitions: To follow or observe (a person) persistently, especially out of obsession or derangement
If someone on the forum is a Follower or personally knows one, I would be interested to hear from that member to better understand how (if at all ) Followers are substantially different from stalkers. Plus, do these people have family or friends outside of fellow Followers? I would have to pull an intervention if my sister or a friend were out in the world behaving and conducting their lives this way. Creepy to say the least.
There are many who claim to know him. I will take claims like this with a pinch of salt. It is one thing following and hanging around wiating for a glimpse of Michael, and as we know he would never ignore his fans but an entirely differnt matter in claims of being "close to him". Michael was a very private person. Please do not be taken in by claims on these such websites as we have been fooled in the past. If anyone was so close to Michael, cared for him and actually knew what was going on with the hoax then they would not reveal anything unless Michael (if he is ever) was going to reveal all. Please do not encourage them.
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I heard this Talitha was very close to him...
Really? Never heard of either of them. First of all, what exactly is meant by follower, and how would they know when he is supposed to be coming back?
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I was told that these are a group of female fans that literally travel all over the world to follow Michael and be where he may be. The last part of your question I am unable to answer.
First of all, what exactly is meant by follower, and how would they know when he is supposed to be coming back?
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I was told that these are a group of female fans that literally travel all over the world to follow Michael and be where he may be. The last part of your question I am unable to answer.
First of all, what exactly is meant by follower, and how would they know when he is supposed to be coming back?
They must be independently wealthy.
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I was told that these are a group of female fans that literally travel all over the world to follow Michael and be where he may be. The last part of your question I am unable to answer.
Oh, okay thank you. Yeah, and probably only Talitha herself would be able to answer that.
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someone should ask her!!
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LOL. I wondered the same thing. I must save a long time for one small trip here in America. I cannot possibly afford large trips thoughout my country. I definitely could not afford larger trips to other countries as well.
That's one reason why I want to know WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE??? :lol: Plus if they are that focused to follow him to that degree, are they merely satisfied with an autogragh and a picture or do they expect MORE from him??? :? As I said before, it is very creepy to me.
I was told that these are a group of female fans that literally travel all over the world to follow Michael and be where he may be. The last part of your question I am unable to answer.
First of all, what exactly is meant by follower, and how would they know when he is supposed to be coming back?
They must be independently wealthy.
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This is interesting but that dosnt necessarily mean they know about the hoax, they might be believers just like us. ;)
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It's really strange. Could it be someone pretending to be her? And if it's really her, could they really know something? And if they know, why do they write such things on the Internet? I really don't get it. :?
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Surprise me anyway which is why many of these people everything on the Internet write.
KO, (for example), whether he a nice day had has well eaten such things also were already ......... for what to whom Interesting this :? 8-)
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this makes me happy both these people are believers too makes me feel happier!! the other person said soon yay lol!!! :lol: ;) :D
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I can't believe that Waldo said that !!! just amazing... if waldo believes MJ is alive so MJ is alive ! It's a really really great news !!!!!!!!!!!
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I heard this Talitha was very close to him...
Really? Never heard of either of them. First of all, what exactly is meant by follower, and how would they know when he is supposed to be coming back?
I dont remember right now. Someone in MJHD had been talking about some kind of fans in FB whom exposed their experience with Michael. I think was in the "this is not it" on FB. aNd that girl Talitha was named...I dont remember her story but sounded like some kind of official fan who knows all his movements and had some types of tasks... I dont listen with much attention those storys nor those types of relation...But I remember that name
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Sorry, who is Waldo, and how do they fit in with the hoax?
Is he/she significant, and can they be relied upon?
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some kind of official fan
What is the criteria to become one of those? :lol:
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I heard this Talitha was very close to him...
Really? Never heard of either of them. First of all, what exactly is meant by follower, and how would they know when he is supposed to be coming back?
I dont remember right now. Someone in MJHD had been talking about some kind of fans in FB whom exposed their experience with Michael. I think was in the "this is not it" on FB. aNd that girl Talitha was named...I dont remember her story but sounded like some kind of official fan who knows all his movements and had some types of tasks... I dont listen with much attention those storys nor those types of relation...But I remember that name
Look at Tilitha's pictures on her FB page. She has loads of pictures with Michael. I'm not talking about 2 or 3, she has LOADS! It looks like she went everywhere Michael went. Even when he took Paris to the mall for her birthday! I think that's very stalkerish? :roll: Does this girl have no life that she could follow Michael everywhere he goes? What's wrong with her? :roll: She reminds me of the claymates, heck, maybe she is one and that's where she learned how to stalk! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:
I think someone should help this the followers get a life! :roll:
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some kind of official fan
What is the criteria to become one of those? :lol:
I'd like to know that too! :lol:
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Sorry, who is Waldo, and how do they fit in with the hoax?
Is he/she significant, and can they be relied upon?
WTH is Waldo? It sounds like the book "Where's Waldo". Do we have to find Waldo to see who they are? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :?:
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I THINK THIS WOMAN NEEDS THE PADDED CELL MORE THAN ME ,THERE ARE FANS AND THERE ARE STALKERS AND I THINK SHE IS A STALKER :lol: :lol:
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My point exactly. Plus let's get real. If these Follower women saw MJ out at a restaurant with a woman... casual friend or a love interest...how would they respond? Would they say "Oh how sweet ...MJ is out with a woman enjoying himself ". Or ...would they freak out and go ballistic because some woman was treading on "their" territory. I used to wonder why MJ had such an army of body guards. I am now beginning to understand why. I have to admit that there are some among us ...MJ fans...that truly frighten and worry me.
Look at Tilitha's pictures on her FB page. She has loads of pictures with Michael. I'm not talking about 2 or 3, she has LOADS! It looks like she went everywhere Michael went. Even when he took Paris to the mall for her birthday! I think that's very stalkerish? :roll: Does this girl have no life that she could follow Michael everywhere he goes? What's wrong with her? :roll: She reminds me of the claymates, heck, maybe she is one and that's where she learned how to stalk! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lol:
I think someone should help this the followers get a life! :roll: [/quote]
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I heard this Talitha was very close to him...
Really? Never heard of either of them. First of all, what exactly is meant by follower, and how would they know when he is supposed to be coming back?
I dont remember right now. Someone in MJHD had been talking about some kind of fans in FB whom exposed their experience with Michael. I think was in the "this is not it" on FB. aNd that girl Talitha was named...I dont remember her story but sounded like some kind of official fan who knows all his movements and had some types of tasks... I dont listen with much attention those storys nor those types of relation...But I remember that name
Two of those girls said they had written Micheal letters which were handed to him about his health and one claimed to have made him a jacket, she even produced a picture of him in it and then they posted photos of themslves in a car with MJ which were clearly fake as on one the her face looked way out of proportion. In fact was a really bad fake and you would have to be really dumb to think they were real.100% fake-we established and proved that on this previous forum.
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Could it be something like the following the Grateful Dead had? How can you see the photos?
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You know that thought crossed my mind too. The dead heads were an interesting bunch as well. However, they had hard drugs as an excuse. What do these people have?
Could it be something like the following the Grateful Dead had? How can you see the photos?
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Maybe a lot more women would have been following Michael around if they had the money these women did. There was (or is) something about Michael that is fascinating. And he wasn't the type of celebrity to put people off. He always waved to people and signed autographs. I think people knew he loved them. Could be a kind of drug......
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Yeah I mentioned a few inconsistencies on the last MJKIT forum. She's part of the "This Is Not It" campaign. I emailed her and the other "follower" fans about their testimonies that they have on their site regarding Michaels health etc. I asked them about the inconsistencies in them, proving to me they were fake. They didn't answer, in fact they banned me from the site altogether. I wasn't rude or anything, so I went back under another name to see what else they were saying. If you question (doesn't matter if you are polite or rude), they get quite defensive and irrated with you and then the rest of the forum who believe them start attacking you. Seen it happen to others quite often. Anyway I think their whole campaign was just created to make Michael's death more believable. They are doing a great job then if this is there purpose cause close to 8000 people are part of "This Is Not It". Whether or not they know the hoax (which I'm unsure if they do), Karen Faye plays and integral part of this and I think thats her job to do so. Keep the public and fans believing Michael has passed.
I don't know how anyone can follow a star around the way these girls do. Creepy and abnormal and they call us crazy for believing in a hoax :) . I know Michael loved us fans, but gee did they respect any of his privacy and let him be at times? How on earth do they financiallys support such a lifestyle.
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To me, a follower is someone who goes to his concerts all around the world for example, and to his official appearances, like the vmas.
But does not follow every step he makes in his private life (shopping, going to the restaurant, with who? etc etc ... ) >> stalker to me ...
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I agree they are very strange. I would never do something like this, even if I had the money. But I did know someone who liked a celebrity in Las Vegas and who had come to know him. At that time I worked in a travel agency. I couldn't believe how many times she (and her husband) would go to Las Vegas just to meet up with this celebrity. I think it's like a drug.
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Darlin' I understand what you are saying. If given the proper means and resources, many MJ fans might have joined this little group. ;) It just un nerves me to think that he had to deal with always having to look up and see people watching him and following him. To a great degree it could almost be considered worse than dealing with the paps. At least they had some down time and took some time off to go about their routine lives. What about this group? Their description alone gives the impression that this is all that they lived for...following MJ all over the globe. Perhaps it is because I am such a regular person that this bothers me so much. I get up and go about my routine with few people knowing what I do on a daily basis. To be followed and constantly watched would be creepy and drive me nuts. This takes the term "living in a fishbowl" to a whole new level.
Maybe a lot more women would have been following Michael around if they had the money these women did. There was (or is) something about Michael that is fascinating. And he wasn't the type of celebrity to put people off. He always waved to people and signed autographs. I think people knew he loved them. Could be a kind of drug......
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It would be interesting to know just how many of them followed him around and for how many years. It's mind-boggling, isn't it?
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I used to be envious of follower-fans who would stalk Michael all day and everyday and take photos with him and talk to him. Maybe because I live on the other side of the atlantic and probably because I will most likely not ever be even in the same country or breathe same air as Michael does but when I think about it I dont think I would want to trade places with those stalker fans either because I think I would cherish and value Michael more than go around stalking him when it clearly makes him feel uncomfortable at some times. I would be satisfied if I got to meet him once and leave it at that. Sometimes I feel like these fans are really ungrateful, they've met him and stalked him for decades and they never seem to get enough of it. I just want to meet him ONCE and I can swear in gods name that would satisfy me enough and bring me so much joy I would never bother him again. :cry:
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. I just want to meet him ONCE and I can swear in gods name that would satisfy me enough and bring me so much joy I would never bother him again. :cry:
Yes, some just take it too far. I personally find this whole thing weird. I mean yeah, I love Michael with all my heart, and would love to get an autograph and what not, but just seeing him would be enough for me. Meeting him would me a dream. But I could never show up everywhere. Like if he is meeting with someone at a restaraunt or at a party. I would think that would start to get annoying, a little rude, and a tad bit obsessive. But ofcouse Michael would never say anything to them because he has such a kind heart.
I can't believe that Waldo said that !!! just amazing... if waldo believes MJ is alive so MJ is alive ! It's a really really great news !!!!!!!!!!!
Waldo?
Darlin' I understand what you are saying. If given the proper means and resources, many MJ fans might have joined this little group. ;) It just un nerves me to think that he had to deal with always having to look up and see people watching him and following him. To a great degree it could almost be considered worse than dealing with the paps. This takes the term "living in a fishbowl" to a whole new level.
It sounds like they are like the paps.
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I have no respect for the «followers». Yeah they are stalkers and stalkers are worse than paparazzi. C'mon! Following Michael 24h/7 days and following him to the doctor!! He needs privacy! He is a human like us! He has a life!
I was registred on the TINI website and yeah they are really rude if you don't agree with them! I was trying to explain them something about the perception of things and they were bashing me and they were telling me they know the truth and blah blah blah. I told them they were worse than paparazzi. I wasn't rude with them at all. Anyway, I cancelled my account because I was tired of them.
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I have no respect for the «followers». Yeah they are stalkers and stalkers are worse than paparazzi. C'mon! Following Michael 24h/7 days and following him to the doctor!! He needs privacy! He is a human like us! He has a life!
I was registred on the TINI website and yeah they are really rude if you don't agree with them! I was trying to explain them something about the perception of things and they were bashing me and they were telling me they know the truth and blah blah blah. I told them they were worse than paparazzi. I wasn't rude with them at all. Anyway, I cancelled my account because I was tired of them.
and they believe he is alive too?
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I have no respect for the «followers». Yeah they are stalkers and stalkers are worse than paparazzi. C'mon! Following Michael 24h/7 days and following him to the doctor!! He needs privacy! He is a human like us! He has a life!
I was registred on the TINI website and yeah they are really rude if you don't agree with them! I was trying to explain them something about the perception of things and they were bashing me and they were telling me they know the truth and blah blah blah. I told them they were worse than paparazzi. I wasn't rude with them at all. Anyway, I cancelled my account because I was tired of them.
and they believe he is alive too?
No they don't believe he is alive. They believe he is dead and they believe everything is said in the media.
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It just un nerves me to think that he had to deal with always having to look up and see people watching him and following him. To a great degree it could almost be considered worse than dealing with the paps. At least they had some down time and took some time off to go about their routine lives. What about this group? Their description alone gives the impression that this is all that they lived for...following MJ all over the globe.
You've hit on an excellent point here about The Followers, GirlSaturday. I also believe there's something way off about their mentality and their bizarre devotion to Michael.
The fact that Michael always acknowledges his fans is a double-edged sword in this case because The Followers perceived his most likely limited and wary attention as a sign that they're special, when in fact, Michael probably gives the same amount of attention to ANY fan he notices nearby. That's just him being his normal appreciative, respectful, and wonderful self.
However, The Followers fed off of Michael's kindness to people in general, assumed a look or a greeting or a photo opportunity with him meant he was paying extra special attention to them, and that in turn inspired them to continue stalking him.
Sometimes I wish Michael were capable of telling these women to f*ck off, because the amount of time they spent following him around HAD to be annoying at times. What I would give to learn what his security people thought of them. A few descriptions like "deluded," "insane," "desperate," and "need to get a life" come to mind.
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I looked at her pictures and I find them cute, specially the first one :mrgreen: But I don't like people following Michael everywhere during his shopping etc.. :roll:
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I looked at her pictures and I find them cute, specially the first one.
Yeah, the photos are nice, and she's a pretty girl. But as I noted, there's no indication of any kind of special relationship between her and Michael. He looks like he perceives her as just another fan who's brave or determined enough to approach him. I've seen tons of similar photos with tons of other fans.
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WHO IS WALDO?
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I THINK THIS WOMAN NEEDS THE PADDED CELL MORE THAN ME ,THERE ARE FANS AND THERE ARE STALKERS AND I THINK SHE IS A STALKER :lol: :lol:
I agree with you! :lol: How about you order her a nice padded cell and mail it to her? That way if Michael is alive and he comes back, she can't follow him! :lol: ;) :lol: :P
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I just thought of something. I wonder if some of the trolls who've been tormenting the hoax sites, are actually these girls? You know "Michael's dead" "Let him R.I.P, etc type comments we get. I wouldn't be surprised if they're the ones that are doing it!! :roll: :x :evil: :twisted:
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Well, just think these people are insane!!! I understnad that they're a fan but they have crossed the limits a loooong time ago LOL!!! Anyways, how can you see their pictures?? That girl's facebook is private :(
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I looked at her pictures and I find them cute, specially the first one.
Yeah, the photos are nice, and she's a pretty girl. But as I noted, there's no indication of any kind of special relationship between her and Michael. He looks like he perceives her as just another fan who's brave or determined enough to approach him. I've seen tons of similar photos with tons of other fans.
Are the photos of her and Michael? Can someone post them?
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I looked at her pictures and I find them cute, specially the first one.
Yeah, the photos are nice, and she's a pretty girl. But as I noted, there's no indication of any kind of special relationship between her and Michael. He looks like he perceives her as just another fan who's brave or determined enough to approach him. I've seen tons of similar photos with tons of other fans.
Are the photos of her and Michael? Can someone post them?
This was allI could see..
http://www.facebook.com/people/Talitha- ... =822520710 (http://www.facebook.com/people/Talitha-Lemington/822520710#/album.php?profile=1&id=822520710)
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yeah can anyone copy and paste the pics?
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haha I also wanna know who is WALDO? and what did he post?! PLEASE!!!!!
kisses :)
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Hi,
yes, please post the pictures and tell us who Waldo is (a male follower?). Also, how many followers were they and for how many years did they do this? I never knew this and I think it was stalking, but Michael was too gentle to complain.
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Yes,Waldo is a male follower.He followed Michael both on Dangerous and History tours.You can see him in the first row in Bucharest concert 1992 and in Munchen 1997.He's a blonde guy.
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WOW! A male follower too? Hmmm did followers get special consideration or perks like being in the front row at an MJ concert?
Yes,Waldo is a male follower.He followed Michael both on Dangerous and History tours.You can see him in the first row in Bucharest concert 1992 and in Munchen 1997.He's a blonde guy.
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This may be mean but...I wonder how many of their faces were placed on milk cartons as a result of their long absences. Families must have certainly been worried about their missing loved ones.
It would be interesting to know just how many of them followed him around and for how many years. It's mind-boggling, isn't it?
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Wait a minute..an odd thought just crossed my mind. One of many 8-) . Followers claim to know MJ very well...better than average fans yet they are part of the TINI group?. Isn't that a contradiction? If I know someone I am more likely to be on top of what that person is capable of doing more than others who are not so close. The followers, by all accounts, should be leading the charge for the hoax. It would seem that they would be the primary ones to prove he is alive and to flush him out. Afterall they are followers, right? Hmmm it seems that the followers slipped up and allowed him to slip right past them. :lol:
Yeah I mentioned a few inconsistencies on the last MJKIT forum. She's part of the "This Is Not It" campaign. I emailed her and the other "follower" fans about their testimonies that they have on their site regarding Michaels health etc. I asked them about the inconsistencies in them, proving to me they were fake. They didn't answer, in fact they banned me from the site altogether. I wasn't rude or anything, so I went back under another name to see what else they were saying. If you question (doesn't matter if you are polite or rude), they get quite defensive and irrated with you and then the rest of the forum who believe them start attacking you. Seen it happen to others quite often. Anyway I think their whole campaign was just created to make Michael's death more believable. They are doing a great job then if this is there purpose cause close to 8000 people are part of "This Is Not It". Whether or not they know the hoax (which I'm unsure if they do), Karen Faye plays and integral part of this and I think thats her job to do so. Keep the public and fans believing Michael has passed.
I don't know how anyone can follow a star around the way these girls do. Creepy and abnormal and they call us crazy for believing in a hoax :) . I know Michael loved us fans, but gee did they respect any of his privacy and let him be at times? How on earth do they financiallys support such a lifestyle.
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I don't know if the link will allow people to see her pictures without being a friend on her FB book. I can't seem to post them in the post, I get a message that says "It was not possible to determine the dimensions of the image". Maybe someone can tell me how I can post them? Try the link and see if it works. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=291507&id=822520710. I'll try to figure out how to post her pictures... :?
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I am a friend of Talitha on FB , she's got about 15 pics with Michael, some of them are while he was shopping in LA. I think she believes in a hoax cos when I saw her FB status I was :shock: :shock: but I do not believe she is in the hoax
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You know what? I wouldnt be surprised if Michael hoaxed his death to get away from his stalker followers! :roll:
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ROFLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
anyway, the fact is they were allowed to be very close to him judging by the pics I saw, so I gathered Michael was ok with that .. or are they just fans he recognizes and let them get close in several occasions? The followers are still a mistery to me .. :? I'll try to understand a bit better now that I have access to Talitha profile on FB ;)
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You know what? I wouldnt be surprised if Michael hoaxed his death to get away from his stalker followers! :roll:
I might be one of the reasons, I doubt it's the only reason why he faked/hoaxed his death. Poor Michael didn't have any privacy. He's human and deserves privacy too. It must've drove him out of his mind to have a group following him everywhere he went! :roll:
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Thanks for the clarification. I don't want to be spreading false information if she is indeed a believer.
I am curious about something. Perhaps she has shared her secret with you and other FB friends. How did she manage to know MJ's schedule in order to be at the right place at the right time and get such candid pictures?
I am a friend of Talitha on FB , she's got about 15 pics with Michael, some of them are while he was shopping in LA. I think she believes in a hoax cos when I saw her FB status I was :shock: :shock: but I do not believe she is in the hoax
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I haven't asked her how she knew all Michael's schedule, I don't want to scare her cos I don't know her very well ;) in due time I might ask her a couple of things ;)
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I understand. People have probably pounced all over her with THAT question. :lol:
I haven't asked her how she knew all Michael's schedule, I don't want to scare her cos I don't know her very well ;) in due time I might ask her a couple of things ;)
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Wait a minute..an odd thought just crossed my mind. One of many 8-) . Followers claim to know MJ very well...better than average fans yet they are part of the TINI group?. Isn't that a contradiction? If I know someone I am more likely to be on top of what that person is capable of doing more than others who are not so close.
The followers, by all accounts, should be leading the charge for the hoax. It would seem that they would be the primary ones to prove he is alive and to flush him out. Afterall they are followers, right? Hmmm it seems that the followers slipped up and allowed him to slip right past them. :lol:
Yeah I mentioned a few inconsistencies on the last MJKIT forum. She's part of the "This Is Not It" campaign. I emailed her and the other "follower" fans about their testimonies that they have on their site regarding Michaels health etc. I asked them about the inconsistencies in them, proving to me they were fake. They didn't answer, in fact they banned me from the site altogether. I wasn't rude or anything, so I went back under another name to see what else they were saying. If you question (doesn't matter if you are polite or rude), they get quite defensive and irrated with you and then the rest of the forum who believe them start attacking you. Seen it happen to others quite often. Anyway I think their whole campaign was just created to make Michael's death more believable. They are doing a great job then if this is there purpose cause close to 8000 people are part of "This Is Not It". Whether or not they know the hoax (which I'm unsure if they do), Karen Faye plays and integral part of this and I think thats her job to do so. Keep the public and fans believing Michael has passed.
I don't know how anyone can follow a star around the way these girls do. Creepy and abnormal and they call us crazy for believing in a hoax :) . I know Michael loved us fans, but gee did they respect any of his privacy and let him be at times? How on earth do they financiallys support such a lifestyle.
Maybe the followers where too obsessed of Michael the singer, and the entertainer (their idol), and did not see the man behind all of that. I believe he is a very privat man, and will not open up for anyone he do not trust 100%.
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Allow me to clarify. I am not suggesting that he would have outright told them about the hoax. I would have suspected that they would be able to figure out that he was hoaxing his death after the June 25th announcement on their own. I am a fan, regular fan only and I pieced it together. I am surprised that some of these "super fans" have not seen the writing on the wall and have joined the TINI movement.
Wait a minute..an odd thought just crossed my mind. One of many 8-) . Followers claim to know MJ very well...better than average fans yet they are part of the TINI group?. Isn't that a contradiction? If I know someone I am more likely to be on top of what that person is capable of doing more than others who are not so close.
The followers, by all accounts, should be leading the charge for the hoax. It would seem that they would be the primary ones to prove he is alive and to flush him out. Afterall they are followers, right? Hmmm it seems that the followers slipped up and allowed him to slip right past them. :lol:
Yeah I mentioned a few inconsistencies on the last MJKIT forum. She's part of the "This Is Not It" campaign. I emailed her and the other "follower" fans about their testimonies that they have on their site regarding Michaels health etc. I asked them about the inconsistencies in them, proving to me they were fake. They didn't answer, in fact they banned me from the site altogether. I wasn't rude or anything, so I went back under another name to see what else they were saying. If you question (doesn't matter if you are polite or rude), they get quite defensive and irrated with you and then the rest of the forum who believe them start attacking you. Seen it happen to others quite often. Anyway I think their whole campaign was just created to make Michael's death more believable. They are doing a great job then if this is there purpose cause close to 8000 people are part of "This Is Not It". Whether or not they know the hoax (which I'm unsure if they do), Karen Faye plays and integral part of this and I think thats her job to do so. Keep the public and fans believing Michael has passed.
I don't know how anyone can follow a star around the way these girls do. Creepy and abnormal and they call us crazy for believing in a hoax :) . I know Michael loved us fans, but gee did they respect any of his privacy and let him be at times? How on earth do they financiallys support such a lifestyle.
Maybe the followers where too obsessed of Michael the singer, and the entertainer (their idol), and did not see the man behind all of that. I believe he is a very privat man, and will not open up for anyone he do not trust 100%.
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I don't know if the link will allow people to see her pictures without being a friend on her FB book. I can't seem to post them in the post, I get a message that says "It was not possible to determine the dimensions of the image". Maybe someone can tell me how I can post them? Try the link and see if it works. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=291507&id=822520710. I'll try to figure out how to post her pictures... :?
if you want to post a picture you can use www.imageshack.us (http://www.imageshack.us) you upload the picture and send to us the link, or choose to paste the codes and we will see it here :) you do it in a minute.
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Apologies. I don't always get a notification email when more people comment on a thread that I've commented on. I had no idea this discussion was still going.
I don't know if the link will allow people to see her pictures without being a friend on her FB book. I can't seem to post them in the post, I get a message that says "It was not possible to determine the dimensions of the image". Maybe someone can tell me how I can post them?
You don't have to be her friend (I'm not) to see the photos, but you do have to be logged into Facebook, apparently. I didn't realize the second part. Since I'm usually logged in to my account, I thought everybody could see the photos if they clicked on the link. My bad.
I know how to paste the photos here, but I try to respect people's rights/privacy and only do that if I have permission to share someone's photos in another location. The most I can suggest is to sign up for a Facebook account if you don't already have one and/or log in before clicking the link.
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I haven't asked her how she knew all Michael's schedule, I don't want to scare her cos I don't know her very well ;) in due time I might ask her a couple of things ;)
They followed Michael around EVERYwhere, hence their nickname, so they most likely knew his schedule from (1) camping out near wherever he was staying and noting his habits, such as habitual outings to stores and doctor's appointments, (2) becoming friendly with certain staff members who might give them a head-up, (3) staying on top of media and fan-forum reports about his schedule and appearances, and (4) keeping in touch with someone on the staff of his publicity firm.
If you ask and she answers, please do update here.
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I THINK THIS WOMAN NEEDS THE PADDED CELL MORE THAN ME ,THERE ARE FANS AND THERE ARE STALKERS AND I THINK SHE IS A STALKER :lol: :lol:
I quite agree. Im not into hearsay and secondary quotes, Just what comes directly from Michael out of his mouth in his words, I hate speculation and alot of this is just that. When and IF Michael comes back we will know!!
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I THINK THIS WOMAN NEEDS THE PADDED CELL MORE THAN ME ,THERE ARE FANS AND THERE ARE STALKERS AND I THINK SHE IS A STALKER :lol: :lol:
I shall make her a reservation and load a syringe of Thorazine..oh and let's not forget the electric shock and hydrotherapy rooms too :P
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These people claim to know that MJ was so sick and AEG were the ones who made him do the concerts, etc. What I don't get is how would these people - who are only fans like us - be privy to that kind of information. Did they get into all his rehearsals and see him ill and frail? I know they wait outside for him but why would he share personal health info. with complete strangers? Are they personal friends of Karen Faye and do the believe everything she tells them? More to the point, why should we believe them?
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These people claim to know that MJ was so sick and AEG were the ones who made him do the concerts, etc. What I don't get is how would these people - who are only fans like us - be privy to that kind of information. Did they get into all his rehearsals and see him ill and frail? I know they wait outside for him but why would he share personal health info. with complete strangers? Are they personal friends of Karen Faye and do the believe everything she tells them? More to the point, why should we believe them?
THATS MY POINT AND IF THEY NO ALL THIS WHY HAVENT THEY SPOKEN ABOUT BEFORE.IF THEY KNEW HE WAS SO ILL WHY DID THEY NOT TELL SOMEONE
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I wonder when she changed her tune, wasn't Talitha a non believer in the beginning and for quite awhile after?
@GirlSaturday :lol: @'super fan' I wonder if MJ 'used' the followers to help the fans believe he 'died'. He knew they followed (stalked) his every move, so what if he played the part and raised their concern. He could have done this knowing they would report back to the fan sites of how he looked, acted, ect. After all these stalkers saw him everyday and by their accounts could tell if something was wrong or changing.
I do believe that I read somewhere that one of the their accounts noted an increase in security, they chalked it up to AEG/KO's control over MJ. I'm leaning more towards the hoax was about to begin. ;)
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:lol: THE WORD FOLLOWERS SOUNDS LIKE A CULT. :lol: NOT BEING MEAN CANT WE JUST CALL THEM THE STALKERS :lol: :lol:
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:lol: THE WORD FOLLOWERS SOUNDS LIKE A CULT. :lol: NOT BEING MEAN CANT WE JUST CALL THEM THE STALKERS :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: It does sound like a cult.
Calling them stalkers isn't mean, cause that is what they are IMHO.
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where was the info that waldo thinks it is a hoax I hink waldo was mentioned at the Sony speech
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I don't know if the link will allow people to see her pictures without being a friend on her FB book. I can't seem to post them in the post, I get a message that says "It was not possible to determine the dimensions of the image". Maybe someone can tell me how I can post them? Try the link and see if it works. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=291507&id=822520710. I'll try to figure out how to post her pictures... :?
Yes the link works can see the pictures thanks
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:lol: THE WORD FOLLOWERS SOUNDS LIKE A CULT. :lol: NOT BEING MEAN CANT WE JUST CALL THEM THE STALKERS :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol: THE WORD FOLLOWERS SOUNDS LIKE A CULT. :lol: NOT BEING MEAN CANT WE JUST CALL THEM THE STALKERS :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: It does sound like a cult.
Calling them stalkers isn't mean, cause that is what they are IMHO.
I agree! They are stalkers. I think they need professional help too. There's something wrong when you follow a celebrity everywhere they go, like they did with Michael. :roll:
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I agree! They are stalkers. I think they need professional help too. There's something wrong when you follow a celebrity everywhere they go, like they did with Michael. :roll: [/color]
LMAO!!! Michael is just so hypnotic though :lol:
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:lol: THE WORD FOLLOWERS SOUNDS LIKE A CULT. :lol: NOT BEING MEAN CANT WE JUST CALL THEM THE STALKERS :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: It does sound like a cult.
Calling them stalkers isn't mean, cause that is what they are IMHO.
I agree! They are stalkers. I think they need professional help too. There's something wrong when you follow a celebrity everywhere they go, like they did with Michael. :roll:
Poor MJ they would never just leave him Alone!! :(