Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => June 25, 2009 => The Helicopter => Topic started by: Badgirl777 on September 23, 2010, 05:35:09 AM

Title: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: Badgirl777 on September 23, 2010, 05:35:09 AM
When i saw the video with the helicopter i noticed that they show a flight that can't be from the UCLA to the Coroner, because it was evening....the sun stands low, ths sun gets under in the west and the helicopter flies into the sun...to the east...wrong he has to fly to west when  i was on the way from UCLA to the Coroner.
So i took a look to the buildungs, the trees....and surch from google earth...i got back from the coroner and look from where the helicopter came.
We don't see the start, but i think it satrts at the USC hospital, they have landing places fro helicopter and the first sight from the Helicopter we saw was the Alcazer Street right north from UCS, then he fly along the Eastlake Avenue through the Biggy Street over the trees and reaches the landing place from the Coroner.
A very short fly, we saw every second and it has nothing to do with the UCLA.
That one of the crew stands in the open door is not for show ...they don't get high enough so one has to look at the distances to the buildings and trees to save the flight....that was a normal practice because the pilot can't see what is under the heli.
Today i found a good map from LA to show you the street names to this very short fake flight.
I only could find this video from the flight....funny that there was a second heli all the time to take the best video from it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp95YX7OEPo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp95YX7OEPo)

 http://www.routenplaner24.de/stadtplan/ (http://www.routenplaner24.de/stadtplan/)
Please write Los Angeles North Mission road and you can find the map the the google earth pics.
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: loyalfan on September 23, 2010, 06:12:54 AM
wow you clever thing...this is really good detective work..xxx love to all
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: Badgirl777 on September 23, 2010, 06:15:24 AM
There where two different helicopter !

I want to look at other videos and found the one where they show the helicopter start at UCLA and a short time he flow away....wonderfull videos...good cameras and following helicopters !

The one who starts at UCLA flow to east...right when he wants to fly to the coroner, but you dont see the fly untill he reaches the coroner....there was a break and then they came from a different point.
Months ago i heard that this Helicopter wasn't in the air at the 25.06. and weeks around.....

I try in my bad english...please atke a look at the white striper at both helicopters right under the door....they are different...one has more stripes above the door and the other less and under the door.
I hope you know what i want to explain ?

8 white stripes next to the door in the right. At 2.00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flmbyI_hwVU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flmbyI_hwVU)

6 stripes next to the door, two under the door. At 0:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXv5Pmf ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXv5PmfHJI&feature=related)
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: Badgirl777 on September 23, 2010, 06:17:28 AM
Quote from: "loyalfan"
wow you clever thing...this is really good detective work..xxx love to all


Oh, thank you so much ! :oops:
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: trublu on September 23, 2010, 06:23:39 AM
Quote from: "Badgirl777"
There where two different helicopter !

I want to look at other videos and found the one where they show the helicopter start at UCLA and a short time he flow away....wonderfull videos...good cameras and following helicopters !

The one who starts at UCLA flow to east...right when he wants to fly to the coroner, but you dont see the fly untill he reaches the coroner....there was a break and then they came from a different point.
Months ago i heard that this Helicopter wasn't in the air at the 25.06. and weeks around.....

I try in my bad english...please atke a look at the white striper at both helicopters right under the door....they are different...one has more stripes above the door and the other less and under the door.
I hope you know what i want to explain ?

8 white stripes next to the door in the right. At 2.00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flmbyI_hwVU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flmbyI_hwVU)

6 stripes next to the door, two under the door. At 0:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXv5Pmf ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXv5PmfHJI&feature=related)

It seems to me that there are 8 stripes on both..
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: Badgirl777 on September 23, 2010, 06:33:50 AM
Quote from: "trublu"
Quote from: "Badgirl777"
There where two different helicopter !

I want to look at other videos and found the one where they show the helicopter start at UCLA and a short time he flow away....wonderfull videos...good cameras and following helicopters !

The one who starts at UCLA flow to east...right when he wants to fly to the coroner, but you dont see the fly untill he reaches the coroner....there was a break and then they came from a different point.
Months ago i heard that this Helicopter wasn't in the air at the 25.06. and weeks around.....

I try in my bad english...please atke a look at the white striper at both helicopters right under the door....they are different...one has more stripes above the door and the other less and under the door.
I hope you know what i want to explain ?

8 white stripes next to the door in the right. At 2.00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flmbyI_hwVU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flmbyI_hwVU)

6 stripes next to the door, two under the door. At 0:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXv5Pmf ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InXv5PmfHJI&feature=related)

It seems to me that there are 8 stripes on both..


Yes, you are right, the stripes are the same, the door wasn't so wide open so i was wrong, but the short fly from the other part of LA was rearly right !
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: loyalfan on September 23, 2010, 07:26:46 AM
badgirl777............as i have always maintained.......details....details.......its the little things we need to focus on....well done you........
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: AgentBJ on September 23, 2010, 07:46:00 AM
NO! I DON'T WATCH VIDEOS WITH THE O2-GUY IN IT!!! :cry:
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: SeeingClues on September 23, 2010, 08:27:00 AM
Hello everyone,
I haven't been posting to the forums much, but I do read them and wanted to comment on this one post, because one of my blog readers had recently sent me a link to the helicopter footage shown on TV that ties directly to this thread.

Check out this video; one of the announcers mentions a USC van being used and was sort of perplexed about it, although said "doesn't mean much" as well as also questioning the sheet being used to wrap the body.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIAWNbvF ... ure=search (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIAWNbvF5Nw&feature=search)

[youtube:2nq4iqaf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIAWNbvF5Nw&feature=search[/youtube:2nq4iqaf]

Much love.
SC
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: norre on September 23, 2010, 08:59:43 AM
There is no structure in that "body"in that white sheet,it's like a surfboard.
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: 2good2btrue on September 23, 2010, 09:15:05 AM
This video has a professional talking about the body being wrapped in a translucent white plastic and a brown blanket under that???
 :?
[youtube:2i7o0g00]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9pjMRluFkU&feature=related[/youtube:2i7o0g00]
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: Badgirl777 on September 24, 2010, 01:37:35 AM
Quote from: "loyalfan"
badgirl777............as i have always maintained.......details....details.......its the little things we need to focus on....well done you........

Yes loyalfan, the datails are very importend !
I saw it one year ago that the heli that lands at the coroner come from the wrong area of LA, thanks Google Earth i found the way back he fly and saw at the start of that video that it could be it come from USC Hospital's landing place.

Weird that no papparazzi heli fly with the heli that starts at the UCLA untill he reaches the coroner....it's around 40 miles and normaly if he gets fast and high he needs 10 min.

The heli was filmed, but i saw not one helicopter more....where are the pap helis ?

In Germany it was not allowed to transport a dead body in a rescue car.....don't kno the rescue helis, but i don't think that they transport dead bodies.
Why Michael ? If it was neccessary to take a heli, then they could call a private or military helicopter.

So this one wasn't able to help other living ppl they need a helicopter....can you understand ? The time he flies dead bodies he can't help ppl in danger for what he is there.

Why the USC ????? Only a little round heli flight ? From USC to coroner is such a short way....there take a round to make it longer.....with a car it would be 3 minutes. Noone would bring a body from USC to Coroner with a heli.
But they need a landing sceen at the coroner....

I thank you all so much for watching wath i write !

All the best and have a nice day !
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: Glenda Shamone Jackson on August 10, 2011, 10:45:09 PM
I haven't figured out how many pages this thread has so I'm not sure if this has been posted. One of the posters above provided this video:
 [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmo7rFuA3n0[/youtube]

It definitely shows the best close up of the "body" rising. Whether it was a "body" or nothing on that stretcher, it definitely rised up because you can see the yellow interior of the stretcher. I also wanted to post this video that is very clear, imo. It is provided by CNN but for some reason, this youtuber didn't provide the full helicopter ride:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXklDCYVveQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: juslookinaround on August 10, 2011, 11:28:09 PM
IS IT TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE TO STAND IN THE DOORWAY OF A HELICOPTER? that was strange to me the first time I watched
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: Glenda Shamone Jackson on August 11, 2011, 12:15:33 AM
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IS IT TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE TO STAND IN THE DOORWAY OF A HELICOPTER? that was strange to me the first time I watched

Yes, mostly when taking off and landing.
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: Grace on August 11, 2011, 12:58:10 AM
Please check this information in addition which will make a lot clearer:

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,17767.msg303395.html#msg303395 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php/topic,17767.msg303395.html#msg303395)

Due to moving to the new board, the attachments of the original post are to be found below the text now.
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 11, 2011, 04:20:17 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9pjMRluFkU&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: annieareyouokannie on August 11, 2011, 06:20:06 AM
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IS IT TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE TO STAND IN THE DOORWAY OF A HELICOPTER? that was strange to me the first time I watched
seems to be a lot of movement in the helecopter around 1.40 look frame by frame
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: juslookinaround on August 17, 2011, 02:04:02 AM
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IS IT TYPICAL FOR PEOPLE TO STAND IN THE DOORWAY OF A HELICOPTER? that was strange to me the first time I watched
seems to be a lot of movement in the helecopter around 1.40 look frame by frame

ok :geek: well is it typical for the man in the door wearing a full facemask? I remember thinking this when I watched this that day ... :?:
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: liegi on August 17, 2011, 04:38:50 AM
Never thought of that. Good detective work. I always thought it was strange that they would show the helicopter flight when he died. Part of Michael's show?
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: finfin on August 17, 2011, 07:29:45 AM
Just happened to be on Youtube yesterday and found this video by MJfanforeverandaday. It shows the full body being put into the helicopter and surfboard coming out. I have not been able to find another video showing the body going in for a while, where did they go?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=256DbNhLgVQ&list=FLa_md_1Ocj6Q&index=1

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=256DbNhLgVQ&list=FLa_md_1Ocj6Q&index=1 [/youtube]
Title: Re: The fake Helicopter flight
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 17, 2011, 04:22:21 PM
I thought the helicopter close up footage was a bit odd too  :shock: Who shot it?
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