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Title: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Andrea on October 28, 2010, 09:30:18 PM
I found this video interesting and I commend Charlie Sheen for speaking out and telling people to wake up and question what's going on in the world.  The last part of the video has a great speech:

"We are here today to affect a change.  We are here today to ask those still sleeping to wake up and join us.  We are here today to present a case forged in science at the bedrock and common sense in it's foundation.  We are here today to fire a warning shot across the bow of mainstream media to remind them of their original responsibility as civil and political watchdogs.  We are here today because fear is never a good enough reason to do nothing.  We are here today to fuel the deconstruction of the official myth.  We are today to hold our course, to bang our drums, to sharpen our focus.   We are also here today to exercise our right to assemble, our right to speak freely, and our right to choose.  We are here today to being draining the cesspool of lies and distortion we refuse to drown in any longer.  We are here today to unleash a juggernaut of truth.  We are also here today to honor the victims and the families of 9/11.  We're today for our children, as well as their children."

[youtube:26ee08lb]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PviXgj-yS5Y[/youtube:26ee08lb]

Charlie Sheen always seems to be in the news getting in trouble for one thing or another.  He was raised in Hollywood and may very well be aware from a unique perspective of all the messed up stuff that happens there- mind control, cover-ups, lies, etc and feels the need to speak out.  It's entirely possible that the "bad stuff" we hear about him may not have even happened at all - that he is being punished for speaking out or that he himself is being used to create a distraction from something else.  It's also possible that if he does get out of control sometimes, it's a result of his own mind control experiences.  Just look at TMZ for what's supposedly going on in Charlie's life:

http://www.tmz.com/person/charlie-sheen/ (http://www.tmz.com/person/charlie-sheen/)

Here a few titles on Charlie Sheen that stuck out to me from TMZ:

Charlie Sheen -- Hotel Room Photos
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/26/1026-charlie-sheen-hotel-ex-credit-room-3.jpg)
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/26/1026 ... room-3.jpg (http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/26/1026-charlie-sheen-hotel-ex-credit-room-3.jpg)
Kinda reminds me of the "death scene" at Michael's Holmby Hills mansion.

Charlie Sheen -- No Drugs Found in Hotel Room
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... stigation/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-drugs-hotel-room-police-cops-investigation/)

Charlie Sheen Will Resume 'Normal' Life in L.A.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... -half-men/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-rehab-new-york-city-hotel-hospital-two-and-a-half-men/)

Charlie Sheen's Friends Feared He Would Die
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... -911-call/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-die-death-hospitalized-drunk-naked-hotel-room-911-call/)
(Notice the 911 in the title??)

Charlie Sheen: 8 Days From Completing Probation
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... toxicated/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-drunk-naked-hotel-room-hospitalized-drunk-intoxicated/)

Charlie Sheen Hospitalized
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... -richards/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-hospitalized-new-york-city-restaurantdenise-richards/)

Ron Jeremy -- Sheen 'Totally Sober' at Playboy Party
 :lol:  :lol:  You never know!
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-s ... on-jeremy/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-sheen-totally-sober-playboy-mansion-ron-jeremy/)

Charlie Sheen -- I Gave Cops False Identification
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-s ... s-license/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-sheen-i-gave-cops-false-idenitification-arrest-fake-id-california-drivers-license/)
(Notice the false-identification...fake-id-california-drivers-license in the URL?!?  I believe that's how Michael's "body" was I.D.'d)

Charlie Sheen -- 'Train' Song Sparked Aspen Fight  
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-s ... -violence/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-sheen-train-drops-of-jupiter-aspen-police-report-domestic-violence/)

Charlie Sheen -- The Sweetest Deal Ever ... Maybe
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/02/charlie-s ... jail-time/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/02/charlie-sheen-plea-deal-domestic-violence-aspen-court-two-and-a-half-men-no-jail-time/)

Charlie Sheen -- Clear Signs of a Plea Deal
http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/26/charlie-s ... -half-men/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/26/charlie-sheen-plea-deal-domestic-violcence-aspen-two-and-a-half-men/)

Charlie Sheen 911 -- 'Car Went ... Over the Cliff'
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/17/charlie-s ... lland-car/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/17/charlie-sheen-911-mercedes-benz-stolen-car-hollywood-hills-mulholland-car/)

I'll leave it at that - I'm sure you'll see where I'm going with this.  And I'm not saying Charlie is TS, just thought those could be possible dots to connect!  Whether I'm reading too much into this or not, I think Charlie is brave for not being afraid to speak out.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Andrea on October 28, 2010, 09:46:10 PM
I lied about leaving it at that :lol:  - here's a couple more TMZ article titles:

Charlie Sheen Car Theft -- Inside Job?
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/charlie-s ... car-theft/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/charlie-sheen-inside-job-keys-ignition-mulholland-drive-car-theft/)

Charlie Sheen Car Theft -- Home Surveillance
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/charlie-s ... o-thieves/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/charlie-sheen-car-theft-home-surveillance-video-thieves/)

TMZ Live: Sheen, Obama and The Situation
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/tmz-live- ... situation/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/tmz-live-sheen-obama-the-situation/)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Adi on October 29, 2010, 03:00:23 AM
All the Charlie Sheen stories, Oksana and Mel stories, Lindsay Lohan stories, all the recent high profile celebrity couples sudden filings for divorce........I think are all part of something MUCH bigger and are probably a load of BS manufactured as side "hoaxes" running in parallel to the BIGGEST one of them all to show how readily other media outlets run with them without an inch of background research to check if they are legitimate.

 I think MJ has some pretty big names in Hollywood on his side in this  :D
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Andrea on October 29, 2010, 07:51:53 PM
Quote from: "Adi"
All the Charlie Sheen stories, Oksana and Mel stories, Lindsay Lohan stories, all the recent high profile celebrity couples sudden filings for divorce........I think are all part of something MUCH bigger and are probably a load of BS manufactured as side "hoaxes" running in parallel to the BIGGEST one of them all to show how readily other media outlets run with them without an inch of background research to check if they are legitimate.

 I think MJ has some pretty big names in Hollywood on his side in this  :D

I think a lot of these stories are connected somehow too...but not sure how.  It hurts my head to think of it!  :lol:

I just love that Charlie Sheen spoke out and didn't back down when people didn't like it.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 29, 2010, 08:00:05 PM
Quote from: "Adi"
All the Charlie Sheen stories, Oksana and Mel stories, Lindsay Lohan stories, all the recent high profile celebrity couples sudden filings for divorce........I think are all part of something MUCH bigger and are probably a load of BS manufactured as side "hoaxes" running in parallel to the BIGGEST one of them all to show how readily other media outlets run with them without an inch of background research to check if they are legitimate.

 I think MJ has some pretty big names in Hollywood on his side in this  :D


Exactly, the LiLo story, Mel story, Jessie James story, Charlie story and who knows what more, are all hoaxes IMO. All those articles have certain clues in them.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 29, 2010, 08:00:41 PM
BTW: Mike wracked up a hotel room once too...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: lilwendy on October 29, 2010, 08:05:07 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Adi"
All the Charlie Sheen stories, Oksana and Mel stories, Lindsay Lohan stories, all the recent high profile celebrity couples sudden filings for divorce........I think are all part of something MUCH bigger and are probably a load of BS manufactured as side "hoaxes" running in parallel to the BIGGEST one of them all to show how readily other media outlets run with them without an inch of background research to check if they are legitimate.

 I think MJ has some pretty big names in Hollywood on his side in this  :D


Exactly, the LiLo story, Mel story, Jessie James story, Charlie story and who knows what more, are all hoaxes IMO. All those articles have certain clues in them.

I agree as well.... I was keeping quite and just observing because I was trying to find some kind of connection to any MJ stories in the past.  Yes, it's all BS to me and I agree with your thoughts Adi. :-)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Andrea on October 29, 2010, 08:22:31 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
BTW: Mike wracked up a hotel room once too...

Michael Jackson - Jackson Trashed Vegas Hotel Room As Police Raided His Home

King of Pop MICHAEL JACKSON trashed a hotel room in Las Vegas after learning police were raiding his Neverland Ranch home in Santa Barbara, California - as they looked for clues to prove the pop star was a child molestor.

The singer and his entourage were staying at The Mirage hotel in 2003 when his manager Dieter Wiesner got the call to return to California as soon as possible.

A devastated Jackson then acted completely out of character, hurling furniture around his room.

Almost three months after the singer's death, Wiesner has come forward to recall the terrible day.

He tells news show Entertainment Tonight, "He couldn't talk and then he started to cry... Michael destroyed some stuff in the suite... He was out of control."

It took a chat with his mother, Katherine, to calm Jackson down - and then she started to clean up her distraught son's mess.

Wiesner adds, "She went down on the floor and started to clean the room. I told her, 'You don't have to do this because we have people here, they can take care (of this).'

"She told me, 'You know what, I don't want the world or anyone from the hotel to see what he did and she cleaned the whole room."

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... me_1116386 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-trashed-vegas-hotel-room-as-police-raided-his-home_1116386)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Adi on October 29, 2010, 08:38:03 PM
Quote from: "lilwendy"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Adi"
All the Charlie Sheen stories, Oksana and Mel stories, Lindsay Lohan stories, all the recent high profile celebrity couples sudden filings for divorce........I think are all part of something MUCH bigger and are probably a load of BS manufactured as side "hoaxes" running in parallel to the BIGGEST one of them all to show how readily other media outlets run with them without an inch of background research to check if they are legitimate.

 I think MJ has some pretty big names in Hollywood on his side in this  :D


Exactly, the LiLo story, Mel story, Jessie James story, Charlie story and who knows what more, are all hoaxes IMO. All those articles have certain clues in them.

I agree as well.... I was keeping quite and just observing because I was trying to find some kind of connection to any MJ stories in the past.  Yes, it's all BS to me and I agree with your thoughts Adi. :-)

@lilwendy ...Yes..I have been thinking this for a long time now but not said much either..just been observing how those stories developed into pure absurdity.

@Souza yes-the Jesse James/Sandra Bullock was another I had forgotten about....I think that is part of it as well. I agree there are probably others too.

It's almost like they are on rotation on TMZ ...a few days on Charlie...move onto a few days on LiLo...then a few days on Mel/Oksana.....then que Jesse/Sandra/various mistresses for a few days....and then in saunters Dr Murray for his regular photoshoot/public appearance - either greenscreened/photoshopped or recorded prior to June 25th 2009 :lol:  !!! The actors need a break :lol:
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Andrea on October 29, 2010, 08:53:11 PM
Quote from: "Adi"

It's almost like they are on rotation on TMZ ...a few days on Charlie...move onto a few days on LiLo...then a few days on Mel/Oksana.....then que Jesse/Sandra/various mistresses for a few days....and then in saunters Dr Murray for his regular photoshoot/public appearance - either greenscreened/photoshopped or recorded prior to June 25th 2009 :lol:  !!! The actors need a break :lol:

Yes, a rotation - that's exactly what it seems like!

And what about Tiger Woods - probably the world's most celebrated athlete with no scandals whatsoever then overnight his image was forever tarnished.  Also interesting that he's a black man playing a typically "white" sport...and I don't mean for that to be taken the wrong way.  It just reminds me of Michael so much.  So popular world wide then they just get struck down.  I think that Tiger, like Michael, was targeted for some reason.  And what a coincidence that the stories of Tiger's alleged affairs came out right before the Copehangen Climate Summit where 60 world leaders attended...something fishy definitely.  There was nothing but Tiger in the news for weeks afterwards - distraction much??  Plus, don't forget that Tiger's "mistress number one" Rachel Uchitel, was basically the poster child for 9/11:

(http://renovomedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Rachel-Uchitel-11.jpg)

Weird...makes one wonder if Rachel was paid to set Tiger up for a big fall...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Stranger In Chi-town on October 29, 2010, 09:43:11 PM
I dunno about the Mel Gibson thing being a HOAX, about Charlie Sheen, I think it's possible he could be lied on, not 100% though... :?  :?:
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 29, 2010, 09:52:36 PM

Another interesting one in the Mel-case:

Quote
Oksana Grigorieva's Lawyer -- 'She Told the Truth' (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/29/oksana-grigorieva-mel-gibson-deposition-dan-horowitz-attorney-child-custody-video/)
34 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  

Oksana Grigorieva just walked out of a marathon deposition -- about 7 hours long -- but O.G. has much more she wants to say, according to her attorney, Daniel Horowitz.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/29/1029-oksana-video-ex-credit.jpg) (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=1ea1e776-4461-4298-a0b5-183a62762f12)

On his way to the parking lot, Horowitz told us about Oksana's long day getting grilled by Mel Gibson's attorneys ... and said she's looking forward to telling the world everything.

Mel will get his turn to open up -- to lawyers -- when he sits down for his long-delayed deposition on Monday.

Weird choice of words again. Is the world really waiting for what O.G. has to tell? I don't really think so.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Stranger In Chi-town on October 29, 2010, 10:08:38 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
I found this video interesting and I commend Charlie Sheen for speaking out and telling people to wake up and question what's going on in the world.  The last part of the video has a great speech:

"We are here today to affect a change.  We are here today to ask those still sleeping to wake up and join us.  We are here today to present a case forged in science at the bedrock and common sense in it's foundation.  We are here today to fire a warning shot across the bow of mainstream media to remind them of their original responsibility as civil and political watchdogs.  We are here today because fear is never a good enough reason to do nothing.  We are here today to fuel the deconstruction of the official myth.  We are today to hold our course, to bang our drums, to sharpen our focus.   We are also here today to exercise our right to assemble, our right to speak freely, and our right to choose.  We are here today to being draining the cesspool of lies and distortion we refuse to drown in any longer.  We are here today to unleash a juggernaut of truth.  We are also here today to honor the victims and the families of 9/11.  We're today for our children, as well as their children."

[youtube:g9xyfqww]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PviXgj-yS5Y[/youtube:g9xyfqww]

Charlie Sheen always seems to be in the news getting in trouble for one thing or another.  He was raised in Hollywood and may very well be aware from a unique perspective of all the messed up stuff that happens there- mind control, cover-ups, lies, etc and feels the need to speak out.  It's entirely possible that the "bad stuff" we hear about him may not have even happened at all - that he is being punished for speaking out or that he himself is being used to create a distraction from something else.  It's also possible that if he does get out of control sometimes, it's a result of his own mind control experiences.  Just look at TMZ for what's supposedly going on in Charlie's life:

http://www.tmz.com/person/charlie-sheen/ (http://www.tmz.com/person/charlie-sheen/)

Here a few titles on Charlie Sheen that stuck out to me from TMZ:

Charlie Sheen -- Hotel Room Photos
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/26/1026-charlie-sheen-hotel-ex-credit-room-3.jpg)
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/26/1026 ... room-3.jpg (http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/26/1026-charlie-sheen-hotel-ex-credit-room-3.jpg)
Kinda reminds me of the "death scene" at Michael's Holmby Hills mansion.

Charlie Sheen -- No Drugs Found in Hotel Room
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... stigation/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-drugs-hotel-room-police-cops-investigation/)

Charlie Sheen Will Resume 'Normal' Life in L.A.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... -half-men/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-rehab-new-york-city-hotel-hospital-two-and-a-half-men/)

Charlie Sheen's Friends Feared He Would Die
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... -911-call/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-die-death-hospitalized-drunk-naked-hotel-room-911-call/)
(Notice the 911 in the title??)

Charlie Sheen: 8 Days From Completing Probation
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... toxicated/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-drunk-naked-hotel-room-hospitalized-drunk-intoxicated/)

Charlie Sheen Hospitalized
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... -richards/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-hospitalized-new-york-city-restaurantdenise-richards/)

Ron Jeremy -- Sheen 'Totally Sober' at Playboy Party
 :lol:  :lol:  You never know!
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-s ... on-jeremy/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-sheen-totally-sober-playboy-mansion-ron-jeremy/)

Charlie Sheen -- I Gave Cops False Identification
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-s ... s-license/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-sheen-i-gave-cops-false-idenitification-arrest-fake-id-california-drivers-license/)
(Notice the false-identification...fake-id-california-drivers-license in the URL?!?  I believe that's how Michael's "body" was I.D.'d)

Charlie Sheen -- 'Train' Song Sparked Aspen Fight  
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-s ... -violence/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-sheen-train-drops-of-jupiter-aspen-police-report-domestic-violence/)

Charlie Sheen -- The Sweetest Deal Ever ... Maybe
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/02/charlie-s ... jail-time/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/02/charlie-sheen-plea-deal-domestic-violence-aspen-court-two-and-a-half-men-no-jail-time/)

Charlie Sheen -- Clear Signs of a Plea Deal
http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/26/charlie-s ... -half-men/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/26/charlie-sheen-plea-deal-domestic-violcence-aspen-two-and-a-half-men/)

Charlie Sheen 911 -- 'Car Went ... Over the Cliff'
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/17/charlie-s ... lland-car/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/17/charlie-sheen-911-mercedes-benz-stolen-car-hollywood-hills-mulholland-car/)

I'll leave it at that - I'm sure you'll see where I'm going with this.  And I'm not saying Charlie is TS, just thought those could be possible dots to connect!  Whether I'm reading too much into this or not, I think Charlie is brave for not being afraid to speak out.

I'd heard about what Charlie says on 9/11 earlier this year (or last year??)and I think it's possible that tabloid-like stories could be made about him to knock down his credibility because of his feelings on 9/11. I'm maybe 25-30% sure about this. Lately he has been in the news a lot.  :?  :geek:
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: anewfan on October 29, 2010, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Adi"
All the Charlie Sheen stories, Oksana and Mel stories, Lindsay Lohan stories, all the recent high profile celebrity couples sudden filings for divorce........I think are all part of something MUCH bigger and are probably a load of BS manufactured as side "hoaxes" running in parallel to the BIGGEST one of them all to show how readily other media outlets run with them without an inch of background research to check if they are legitimate.

 I think MJ has some pretty big names in Hollywood on his side in this  :D


Exactly, the LiLo story, Mel story, Jessie James story, Charlie story and who knows what more, are all hoaxes IMO. All those articles have certain clues in them.


Don't forget the bogus Steven Slater story....
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: ~Souza~ on October 29, 2010, 10:43:04 PM
Quote from: "anewfan"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Adi"
All the Charlie Sheen stories, Oksana and Mel stories, Lindsay Lohan stories, all the recent high profile celebrity couples sudden filings for divorce........I think are all part of something MUCH bigger and are probably a load of BS manufactured as side "hoaxes" running in parallel to the BIGGEST one of them all to show how readily other media outlets run with them without an inch of background research to check if they are legitimate.

 I think MJ has some pretty big names in Hollywood on his side in this  :D


Exactly, the LiLo story, Mel story, Jessie James story, Charlie story and who knows what more, are all hoaxes IMO. All those articles have certain clues in them.


Don't forget the bogus Steven Slater story....

Oh God, how could I forget!
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Adi on October 30, 2010, 01:05:50 AM
Quote from: "Andrea"
Quote from: "Adi"

It's almost like they are on rotation on TMZ ...a few days on Charlie...move onto a few days on LiLo...then a few days on Mel/Oksana.....then que Jesse/Sandra/various mistresses for a few days....and then in saunters Dr Murray for his regular photoshoot/public appearance - either greenscreened/photoshopped or recorded prior to June 25th 2009 :lol:  !!! The actors need a break :lol:

Yes, a rotation - that's exactly what it seems like!

And what about Tiger Woods - probably the world's most celebrated athlete with no scandals whatsoever then overnight his image was forever tarnished.  Also interesting that he's a black man playing a typically "white" sport...and I don't mean for that to be taken the wrong way.  It just reminds me of Michael so much.  So popular world wide then they just get struck down.  I think that Tiger, like Michael, was targeted for some reason.  And what a coincidence that the stories of Tiger's alleged affairs came out right before the Copehangen Climate Summit where 60 world leaders attended...something fishy definitely.  There was nothing but Tiger in the news for weeks afterwards - distraction much??  Plus, don't forget that Tiger's "mistress number one" Rachel Uchitel, was basically the poster child for 9/11:

(http://renovomedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Rachel-Uchitel-11.jpg)

Weird...makes one wonder if Rachel was paid to set Tiger up for a big fall...

I must admit...the Tiger Wood story did have me wondering if it was a part of all of this..or did it actually happen to him.

Quote
Don't forget the bogus Steven Slater story....

Yes - of course...that Steven Slater was a doozy :lol: and of course Ballon Boy too.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: liegi on October 30, 2010, 01:09:40 PM
Totally agree...all crap.  Charlie Sheen was one of the few people who came out and spoke against the official 9/11 story. He actually stated he saw something other than a plane. Could this be his "punishment", just as Michael and others have been punished?
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: LostHighlander on October 30, 2010, 03:53:03 PM
I went to Wikipedia to read up on Rachel Uchitel and saw this:

She later scheduled a news conference to discuss Woods' alleged affairs, but she and her attorney Gloria Allred cancelled due to "unforeseen circumstances".

While at eXXXotica Expo during May 2010, Joslyn James, another of Wood's alleged mistresses, had an altercation with Uchitel due to her May 14, 2010 appearance on TMZ Live. While on the show, Uchitel discussed Boreanaz and "her new life as the most famous mistress on the planet." She denied extorting him over their alleged affair although her attorney, Gloria Allred, stated Boreanaz had deceived Uchitel. Allred represented Veronica Siwik-Daniels, who is another alleged mistress of Woods, aka "Joslyn James". A scheduled news conference featuring Uchitel and Allred was canceled due to the arrival of "Mr. Green" or a cash settlement according to CBS News legal analyst Lisa Bloom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Uchitel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Uchitel)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: voiceforthesilent on October 30, 2010, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
I lied about leaving it at that :lol:  - here's a couple more TMZ article titles:

Charlie Sheen Car Theft -- Inside Job?
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/charlie-s ... car-theft/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/charlie-sheen-inside-job-keys-ignition-mulholland-drive-car-theft/)

Charlie Sheen Car Theft -- Home Surveillance
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/charlie-s ... o-thieves/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/charlie-sheen-car-theft-home-surveillance-video-thieves/)

TMZ Live: Sheen, Obama and The Situation
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/tmz-live- ... situation/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/15/tmz-live-sheen-obama-the-situation/)

Wow, Andrea - you have done a lot of research on this. I commend you! Does TMZ use these titles over and over with everyone or at least similar words? Thanks for sharing :)
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: voiceforthesilent on October 30, 2010, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: "Stranger In Chi-town"
Quote from: "Andrea"
I found this video interesting and I commend Charlie Sheen for speaking out and telling people to wake up and question what's going on in the world.  The last part of the video has a great speech:

"We are here today to affect a change.  We are here today to ask those still sleeping to wake up and join us.  We are here today to present a case forged in science at the bedrock and common sense in it's foundation.  We are here today to fire a warning shot across the bow of mainstream media to remind them of their original responsibility as civil and political watchdogs.  We are here today because fear is never a good enough reason to do nothing.  We are here today to fuel the deconstruction of the official myth.  We are today to hold our course, to bang our drums, to sharpen our focus.   We are also here today to exercise our right to assemble, our right to speak freely, and our right to choose.  We are here today to being draining the cesspool of lies and distortion we refuse to drown in any longer.  We are here today to unleash a juggernaut of truth.  We are also here today to honor the victims and the families of 9/11.  We're today for our children, as well as their children."

[youtube:m5xu9vfs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PviXgj-yS5Y[/youtube:m5xu9vfs]

Charlie Sheen always seems to be in the news getting in trouble for one thing or another.  He was raised in Hollywood and may very well be aware from a unique perspective of all the messed up stuff that happens there- mind control, cover-ups, lies, etc and feels the need to speak out.  It's entirely possible that the "bad stuff" we hear about him may not have even happened at all - that he is being punished for speaking out or that he himself is being used to create a distraction from something else.  It's also possible that if he does get out of control sometimes, it's a result of his own mind control experiences.  Just look at TMZ for what's supposedly going on in Charlie's life:

http://www.tmz.com/person/charlie-sheen/ (http://www.tmz.com/person/charlie-sheen/)

Here a few titles on Charlie Sheen that stuck out to me from TMZ:

Charlie Sheen -- Hotel Room Photos
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/26/1026-charlie-sheen-hotel-ex-credit-room-3.jpg)
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/26/1026 ... room-3.jpg (http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/26/1026-charlie-sheen-hotel-ex-credit-room-3.jpg)
Kinda reminds me of the "death scene" at Michael's Holmby Hills mansion.

Charlie Sheen -- No Drugs Found in Hotel Room
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... stigation/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-drugs-hotel-room-police-cops-investigation/)

Charlie Sheen Will Resume 'Normal' Life in L.A.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... -half-men/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-rehab-new-york-city-hotel-hospital-two-and-a-half-men/)

Charlie Sheen's Friends Feared He Would Die
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... -911-call/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-die-death-hospitalized-drunk-naked-hotel-room-911-call/)
(Notice the 911 in the title??)

Charlie Sheen: 8 Days From Completing Probation
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... toxicated/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-drunk-naked-hotel-room-hospitalized-drunk-intoxicated/)

Charlie Sheen Hospitalized
http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-s ... -richards/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/26/charlie-sheen-hospitalized-new-york-city-restaurantdenise-richards/)

Ron Jeremy -- Sheen 'Totally Sober' at Playboy Party
 :lol:  :lol:  You never know!
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-s ... on-jeremy/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-sheen-totally-sober-playboy-mansion-ron-jeremy/)

Charlie Sheen -- I Gave Cops False Identification
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-s ... s-license/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-sheen-i-gave-cops-false-idenitification-arrest-fake-id-california-drivers-license/)
(Notice the false-identification...fake-id-california-drivers-license in the URL?!?  I believe that's how Michael's "body" was I.D.'d)

Charlie Sheen -- 'Train' Song Sparked Aspen Fight  
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-s ... -violence/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/09/charlie-sheen-train-drops-of-jupiter-aspen-police-report-domestic-violence/)

Charlie Sheen -- The Sweetest Deal Ever ... Maybe
http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/02/charlie-s ... jail-time/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/08/02/charlie-sheen-plea-deal-domestic-violence-aspen-court-two-and-a-half-men-no-jail-time/)

Charlie Sheen -- Clear Signs of a Plea Deal
http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/26/charlie-s ... -half-men/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/26/charlie-sheen-plea-deal-domestic-violcence-aspen-two-and-a-half-men/)

Charlie Sheen 911 -- 'Car Went ... Over the Cliff'
http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/17/charlie-s ... lland-car/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/17/charlie-sheen-911-mercedes-benz-stolen-car-hollywood-hills-mulholland-car/)

I'll leave it at that - I'm sure you'll see where I'm going with this.  And I'm not saying Charlie is TS, just thought those could be possible dots to connect!  Whether I'm reading too much into this or not, I think Charlie is brave for not being afraid to speak out.

I'd heard about what Charlie says on 9/11 earlier this year (or last year??)and I think it's possible that tabloid-like stories could be made about him to knock down his credibility because of his feelings on 9/11. I'm maybe 25-30% sure about this. Lately he has been in the news a lot.  :?  :geek:

Wow - Charlie Sheen. I had no idea. Were he and Michael friends? Because they speak of the same things but in a different way. This was an excellent video. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: paula-c on October 30, 2010, 07:39:34 PM
Charlie Sheen asks Obama to reopen the investigation of the 11 in a video posted on YouTube, the clip Sheen reads a letter sent to the American President asks Obama that use its Executive to reopen investigation into the attacks of 11 and its consequences.


[youtube:3ob44lsr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:3ob44lsr]
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Andrea on October 30, 2010, 07:51:43 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"

Wow - Charlie Sheen. I had no idea. Were he and Michael friends? Because they speak of the same things but in a different way. This was an excellent video. Thank you for sharing this with us.

I couldn't find anything about them being friends but you never know, they've both been around for a long time so it's quite likely they've bumped into each other.  Considering that Charlie actually spoke his mind about 9/11, it's possible Michael approached him for support in some way.  

I do think TMZ is trying to spell it all out for us, weaving it all together like one big spider web.  And don't forget, TMZ (or Harvey at the very least) knows way more than what they actually report.  Harvey has said so himself on TMZ Live on numerous occasions.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: anewfan on October 30, 2010, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"

Wow - Charlie Sheen. I had no idea. Were he and Michael friends? Because they speak of the same things but in a different way. This was an excellent video. Thank you for sharing this with us.

I couldn't find anything about them being friends but you never know, they've both been around for a long time so it's quite likely they've bumped into each other.  Considering that Charlie actually spoke his mind about 9/11, it's possible Michael approached him for support in some way.  

I do think TMZ is trying to spell it all out for us, weaving it all together like one big spider web.  And don't forget, TMZ (or Harvey at the very least) knows way more than what they actually report.  Harvey has said so himself on TMZ Live on numerous occasions.


I don't know if this has any relevance or not, but Paula Abdul was married to Emilio Estevez, who is Charlie Sheen's brother. And, as we all know, Paula Abdul is a longtime friend of the Jackson's.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Andrea on October 30, 2010, 08:16:00 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Charlie Sheen asks Obama to reopen the investigation of the 11 in a video posted on YouTube, the clip Sheen reads a letter sent to the American President asks Obama that use its Executive to reopen investigation into the attacks of 11 and its consequences.


[youtube:2892kepj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU&feature=player_embedded#![/youtube:2892kepj]

Thank you Paula for posting this!!

I am so glad that Charlie is continuing to bring attention to the inconsistencies of the official story of 9/11 and is demanding answers from his President, which is his right.  

This is unrelated to the video I just watched but I just thought of something literally right now as I type.  What do the recent Charlie/Mel Gibson/Tiger Woods/Jesse James scandals have in common??  YOUNGER WOMEN.  If the "elite" of the world wanted to bring these people down by trying to destroy their reputations - it seems very possible that young "sexy" women are hired to actively pursue and seduce these men.  Once the woman has her target, she then blackmails her target and then sues him...and of course in the mean time, marriages and reputations are ruined - the target has been "punished" by the "elite" and the woman involved gets money and 15 minutes of fame.  But the "elite" are also accomplishing something else while doing this - promoting the breakdown of the family unit.  More and more couples are getting divorced or breaking up these days.  And now it seems that a hollywood marriage is ending everyday...making it "acceptable" (?) to the masses to also get divorced?  So people don't have the love and stability that we all need and that we will need to rely on once sh*t hits the fan and the NWO actively make their intentions known to everyone on Earth...
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: paula-c on October 30, 2010, 08:29:23 PM
If Andrea can be to hire these women, and then they are involved in these scandals, alcohol, protitucion with the aim of destroying their families and their reputation
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: Andrea on October 30, 2010, 08:35:23 PM
Quote from: "LostHighlander"
I went to Wikipedia to read up on Rachel Uchitel and saw this:

She later scheduled a news conference to discuss Woods' alleged affairs, but she and her attorney Gloria Allred cancelled due to "unforeseen circumstances".

While at eXXXotica Expo during May 2010, Joslyn James, another of Wood's alleged mistresses, had an altercation with Uchitel due to her May 14, 2010 appearance on TMZ Live. While on the show, Uchitel discussed Boreanaz and "her new life as the most famous mistress on the planet." She denied extorting him over their alleged affair although her attorney, Gloria Allred, stated Boreanaz had deceived Uchitel. Allred represented Veronica Siwik-Daniels, who is another alleged mistress of Woods, aka "Joslyn James". A scheduled news conference featuring Uchitel and Allred was canceled due to the arrival of "Mr. Green" or a cash settlement according to CBS News legal analyst Lisa Bloom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Uchitel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Uchitel)

Quote from: "paula-c"
If Andrea can be to hire these women, and then they are involved in these scandals, alcohol, protitucion with the aim of destroying their families and their reputation

And Gloria Allred seems to be somehow involved, she has represented many of these "hired" women...and Harvey from TMZ openly mocked her by dressing up for her as Halloween!  :lol:  :shock:  Because Halloween is scary and so is Gloria's role in everything...Wow, this is starting to make some sense to me.
Title: Re: Charlie Sheen - 9/11, the media and TMZ
Post by: MJonmind on January 20, 2011, 05:22:53 AM
Quote from: "Andrea"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
BTW: Mike wracked up a hotel room once too...

Michael Jackson - Jackson Trashed Vegas Hotel Room As Police Raided His Home

King of Pop MICHAEL JACKSON trashed a hotel room in Las Vegas after learning police were raiding his Neverland Ranch home in Santa Barbara, California - as they looked for clues to prove the pop star was a child molestor.

The singer and his entourage were staying at The Mirage hotel in 2003 when his manager Dieter Wiesner got the call to return to California as soon as possible.

A devastated Jackson then acted completely out of character, hurling furniture around his room.

Almost three months after the singer's death, Wiesner has come forward to recall the terrible day.

He tells news show Entertainment Tonight, "He couldn't talk and then he started to cry... Michael destroyed some stuff in the suite... He was out of control."

It took a chat with his mother, Katherine, to calm Jackson down - and then she started to clean up her distraught son's mess.

Wiesner adds, "She went down on the floor and started to clean the room. I told her, 'You don't have to do this because we have people here, they can take care (of this).'

"She told me, 'You know what, I don't want the world or anyone from the hotel to see what he did and she cleaned the whole room."

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... me_1116386 (http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-trashed-vegas-hotel-room-as-police-raided-his-home_1116386)
This makes me want to cry, just imagining the situation. :cry:
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