Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: dyanne on December 16, 2009, 03:52:05 PM
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So, TNZ twitted today a link to a youtube account:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed (http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed)
This user signed up yesterday and commented on PianoGames video:
TIAIrevealed commented on Michael Jackson could still... (21 hours ago)
"ThisIsAlsoIt (dot com) will be revealed on 12-21-2009! Please let everyone know about this on all of the hoax forums, etc.
Also, to set the rumors straight: ThisIsAlsoIt (dot com) has never been owned or operated by any of the hoax forums or other hoax related web pages.
Next redirect: 99."
This was BEFORE today's 99 redirect
PS. If it is already posted, admins please delete. I didn't find anything about this in the other topics :)
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IMHO TNZ is at least connected to myspace of ThisisalsoMJ and was testing hot waters with Thisisalsoit.com
Testing how much they could manipulate people.
On myspace TNZ are collecting a lot of people and have grown considerably.
That they do have a lot of celebrities on their friend list does not mean anything since these sites (for pr purposes) do automatically confirm friendships.
myspace presence of ThisisalsoMJ seems quite selective as to accepting friends.
TNZ seem to ask others for friendship first (see comments on their site) which is a rare behaviour for a popular site. One would assume that they don't need to ask for friends as they would get a lot of requests.
If they do ask others for friendship, there is a strategy behind.
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At this point I am more interested in that youtube account. The comment about next redirection to 99 was posted before that redirection took place.
The fact that TNZ twitted that link could be a proof that they are behind or somehow related to the TIAI redirects.
Right now I am wondering whether they really know something or just play around....
Anyway, thought I should share this with you.
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That's what I wanted to get across.
IMHO they are connected - TNZ are the rude yelling ones, TIAI are silent. All the same source.
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IMHO TNZ is at least connected to myspace of ThisisalsoMJ and was testing hot waters with Thisisalsoit.com
Testing how much they could manipulate people.
On myspace TNZ are collecting a lot of people and have grown considerably.
That they do have a lot of celebrities on their friend list does not mean anything since these sites (for pr purposes) do automatically confirm friendships.
myspace presence of ThisisalsoMJ seems quite selective as to accepting friends.
TNZ seem to ask others for friendship first (see comments on their site) which is a rare behaviour for a popular site. One would assume that they don't need to ask for friends as they would get a lot of requests.
If they do ask others for friendship, there is a strategy behind.
Very well said Grace. I can not believe how people still believe in them :roll: They're just trying to get your attention and insult you guys. They think that the fans are stupid! Why do u allow them to tell you these stuff and insult you? It's just their theories on their page, nothing more. And I have doubts about TIAI. It can be TNZ's game too because they always tell us to take a look at TIAI. I don't buy anything that comes from TNZ. It's BS! :roll:
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So, TNZ twitted today a link to a youtube account:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed (http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed)
This user signed up yesterday and commented on PianoGames video:
TIAIrevealed commented on Michael Jackson could still... (21 hours ago)
"ThisIsAlsoIt (dot com) will be revealed on 12-21-2009! Please let everyone know about this on all of the hoax forums, etc.
Also, to set the rumors straight: ThisIsAlsoIt (dot com) has never been owned or operated by any of the hoax forums or other hoax related web pages.
Next redirect: 99."
This was BEFORE today's 99 redirect
PS. If it is already posted, admins please delete. I didn't find anything about this in the other topics :)
Any1 who doesn't see the obvious message with tiai is blind and dumb...I'm sorry
12.21 is Next Monday...umm I wonder if sumthing will happen on Sunday on the show
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Sorry misha86, I don't see the obvious message from TIAI. Is it for real, is is just a crazy man's game to twist minds, Is MJ behind it, is there someone else who likes sending people after wild goose chases, is there someone who is just using the hoax theories to send some sort of a message?
I guess i am both blind and dumb.
Thank you!
PS. Even the start of TIAI rises questions about its righteusness
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So, TNZ twitted today a link to a youtube account:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed (http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed)
This user signed up yesterday and commented on PianoGames video:
TIAIrevealed commented on Michael Jackson could still... (21 hours ago)
"ThisIsAlsoIt (dot com) will be revealed on 12-21-2009! Please let everyone know about this on all of the hoax forums, etc.
Also, to set the rumors straight: ThisIsAlsoIt (dot com) has never been owned or operated by any of the hoax forums or other hoax related web pages.
Next redirect: 99."
This was BEFORE today's 99 redirect
PS. If it is already posted, admins please delete. I didn't find anything about this in the other topics :)
What is so special about TIAI that they make an announcement? Who actually owns it? To me this sounds very strange ... well, lets wait ... again ... :|
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So, TNZ twitted today a link to a youtube account:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed (http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed)
This user signed up yesterday and commented on PianoGames video:
TIAIrevealed commented on Michael Jackson could still... (21 hours ago)
"ThisIsAlsoIt (dot com) will be revealed on 12-21-2009! Please let everyone know about this on all of the hoax forums, etc.
Also, to set the rumors straight: ThisIsAlsoIt (dot com) has never been owned or operated by any of the hoax forums or other hoax related web pages.
Next redirect: 99."
This was BEFORE today's 99 redirect
PS. If it is already posted, admins please delete. I didn't find anything about this in the other topics :)
Any1 who doesn't see the obvious message with tiai is blind and dumb...I'm sorry
12.21 is Next Monday...umm I wonder if sumthing will happen on Sunday on the show
It gives messages but by who? Do you know this? Are you sure of this? You can not say people dumb and blind if they have questions about TIAI. Sorry but that was rude.
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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/24641 (http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/24641)
So maybe Sony behind this, but idk...
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The fact that TNZ twitted that link could be a proof that they are behind or somehow related to the TIAI redirects.
Could be proof? Anyone could have read that comment and tweet it. No proof at all, and I'm still convinced TNZ has nothing to do with TIAI.
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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/24641
So maybe Sony behind this, but idk...
I think nobody wondered from where the TIAI info came from. The only reference was from Andy Borowitz. No other media mentioned it except by quoting him and the original article here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-boro ... 37576.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/sony-to-release-this-is-i_b_337576.html)
Another thing: no "serious" media ever reported this. Don't you think that after the success TII had, nobody would report an announcement from Sony for a sequel???
Who is Andy Borowitz: "Andy Borowitz (born January 4, 1958) is a comedian and satirist who won the first National Press Club award for humor, and is known for creating the satirical website, the Borowitz Report."
From here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Borowitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Borowitz)
So, a comedian is the only one to report this news???? Makes you wonder...
And I will give you just one quote from Andy's article: "When we put together This Is It, we thought it was it, but it turns out it wasn't it," said Sony spokesperson Carol Foyler.
If you Google Carol Foyler you will realize she is a person Andy Borowitz writes a lot about and has many many jobs :D
- Executive Director of Pitbull Anti-Defamation League: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-boro ... 24692.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/pitbull-owners-blast-pali_b_124692.html)
- Spokesperson for Sony: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-boro ... 37576.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/sony-to-release-this-is-i_b_337576.html)
- executive director of Texans Against Gay Divorce: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-boro ... 07445.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/texas-case-angers-foes-of_b_307445.html)
I will let you discover the rest if you have time and patience.
So, I guess this rises questions about how legit TIAI really is...
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The fact that TNZ twitted that link could be a proof that they are behind or somehow related to the TIAI redirects.
Could be proof? Anyone could have read that comment and tweet it. No proof at all, and I'm still convinced TNZ has nothing to do with TIAI.
That's why I said could and not is :)
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First of all I'm sorry about my english.
at this point the only thing I have for sure is that something isn't right.. I believe Michael is alive but I can say that i'm sure of it, because we only have odd things or non fixed thing surrounding his death.. I repet .. I'm a believer, but to believe is not the same that being sure of..
I can't discart (I don't know ifis the proper way of saying it) any sources.. only the obvious one. For ex: Cassandra Gretchen is almost discarted for me, because since the page is not updated since Nov. 13 i believe it was just a game and she got tired and bored..
But TIAI.. it really cought my attention and I wouldn't pay a site hosting for a year, (29 Oct 2009 - 29 Oct 2010) just to make a joke, he/she doesn't have any banner for an $ entry because is always redirecting to other sites, he/she do the update almost at the same hours each day (between 5 am to 5.40 am in Argentina) this redirecting was an exception.. it was almost 8am here and the page still redirects you to the picture of emerald city.... with that I discart the possibility that is an automatic redirecting thing.
So... I believe Michael is alive, and by the moment I wont discrt any possibility of conexion with this hoax until is too obviuos.. so i'll be waiting for 21/12!
kisses!
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But TIAI.. it really cought my attention and I wouldn't pay a site hosting for a year, (29 Oct 2009 - 29 Oct 2010) just to make a joke, he/she doesn't have any banner for an $ entry because is always redirecting to other sites, he/she do the update almost at the same hours each day (between 5 am to 5.40 am in Argentina) this redirecting was an exception.. it was almost 8am here and the page still redirects you to the picture of emerald city.... with that I discart the possibility that is an automatic redirecting thing.
So... I believe Michael is alive, and by the moment I wont discrt any possibility of conexion with this hoax until is too obviuos.. so i'll be waiting for 21/12!
kisses!
I will not discard it either BUT:
- Hosting costs about 4$/month. Almost anybody could afford that
- regarding redirection: when you change the address of a website, the change is not instant. The normal time is 24-48 hours for everybody to be able to arrive on the "new" link. Normally it takes less but only after about 24 hours you can be sure that the change is effective and 99% of people see the new link. So that's why in your country you could still see the yellow brick road redirection. The DNS (domain name server) was not spread yet
- as far as i know the redirection can only be done manually, but there can be programs created to automatize this. Anyway, to make such a redirection doesn't take too much time. Only 10 minutes for one redirection.
So I guess anybody could pay 4$/month and spend 10 minutes a day to do this.
Also, think about the time it takes for the redirection to take place. The Borrowitz article about TII was on October 28th. TIAI appeared on October 30th. This fits the 24-48 hours :)
Also, regarding the 24-48 hours thing, the changes have to be planned in advance...
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Sorry misha86, I don't see the obvious message from TIAI. Is it for real, is is just a crazy man's game to twist minds, Is MJ behind it, is there someone else who likes sending people after wild goose chases, is there someone who is just using the hoax theories to send some sort of a message?
I guess i am both blind and dumb.
Thank you!
PS. Even the start of TIAI rises questions about its righteusness
I don't see how any1 can say its a wild goose chase. The message is clear..the media lies, the goverment is behind the media, the governmnt lies, don't believe everything u see
Just because they use symbols or non direct messages doe not mean its bs..if u follow it it makes perfect sense y mike hoaxed his death
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So, TNZ twitted today a link to a youtube account:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed (http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed)
This user signed up yesterday and commented on PianoGames video:
TIAIrevealed commented on Michael Jackson could still... (21 hours ago)
"ThisIsAlsoIt (dot com) will be revealed on 12-21-2009! Please let everyone know about this on all of the hoax forums, etc.
Also, to set the rumors straight: ThisIsAlsoIt (dot com) has never been owned or operated by any of the hoax forums or other hoax related web pages.
Next redirect: 99."
This was BEFORE today's 99 redirect
PS. If it is already posted, admins please delete. I didn't find anything about this in the other topics :)
Any1 who doesn't see the obvious message with tiai is blind and dumb...I'm sorry
12.21 is Next Monday...umm I wonder if sumthing will happen on Sunday on the show
It gives messages but by who? Do you know this? Are you sure of this? You can not say people dumb and blind if they have questions about TIAI. Sorry but that was rude.
Idk who exactly but I do know that message goes along with everything mike has been saying and I am sure that the site is giving us imformation about why he hoaxed his death instead of people jus focusing on when he is coming back
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IMHO TNZ is at least connected to myspace of ThisisalsoMJ and was testing hot waters with Thisisalsoit.com
Testing how much they could manipulate people.
On myspace TNZ are collecting a lot of people and have grown considerably.
That they do have a lot of celebrities on their friend list does not mean anything since these sites (for pr purposes) do automatically confirm friendships.
myspace presence of ThisisalsoMJ seems quite selective as to accepting friends.
TNZ seem to ask others for friendship first (see comments on their site) which is a rare behaviour for a popular site. One would assume that they don't need to ask for friends as they would get a lot of requests.
If they do ask others for friendship, there is a strategy behind.
Very well said Grace. I can not believe how people still believe in them :roll: They're just trying to get your attention and insult you guys. They think that the fans are stupid! Why do u allow them to tell you these stuff and insult you? It's just their theories on their page, nothing more. And I have doubts about TIAI. It can be TNZ's game too because they always tell us to take a look at TIAI. I don't buy anything that comes from TNZ. It's BS! :roll:
i'm start to folow tnz on twitter and at the same moment i unfolow them, because i not have good feelings about them, and now they are folowing me, so i block them :evil:
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Now, that can be sth... Let's wait for 12.21.2009 and see. I decide to stay open minded.
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Sorry misha86, I don't see the obvious message from TIAI. Is it for real, is is just a crazy man's game to twist minds, Is MJ behind it, is there someone else who likes sending people after wild goose chases, is there someone who is just using the hoax theories to send some sort of a message?
I guess i am both blind and dumb.
Thank you!
That is exactly how I feel about TIAI, thank you dyanne! At a certain point I thought it was someone's messing with believers for fun, but the spirit of most of redirections gave me a second thought there might be someone with their own agenda, using the MJ hoax as a platform to spread their own message. I really didn't learn anything new from TIAI, all those conspiracy theories were there before. It might be even a bunch of students working on some research project with us being sorta lab mice... so i guess i'm also blind and stupid :)
BTW does anybody know why TNZ say on their site "October 1st. The day we've fully realezed (sic) the end of the movie. This movie ends well"? Why October 1st? Was wondering about it for a while ... and btw October 1st is 99 days since June 25, but don't think it has anything to do with today's redirection although sometimes i do get a feeling TNZ is connected with TIAI.
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I'm throwing an idea out there. Couldn't TNZ and/or TIAI be a product of Joey Skaggs? Discuss amongst yourselves. :D
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The latest redirect (today's?) was the number 99. 99 hours = 4 days and 3 hours. December 16 (today) + 4 days 3 hours = December 20th (the day before TIAI is revealed). Could this (December 20th) be the last day of the hoax? Will everything be revealed on December 21st?
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Sorry misha86, I don't see the obvious message from TIAI. Is it for real, is is just a crazy man's game to twist minds, Is MJ behind it, is there someone else who likes sending people after wild goose chases, is there someone who is just using the hoax theories to send some sort of a message?
I guess i am both blind and dumb.
Thank you!
PS. Even the start of TIAI rises questions about its righteusness
I don't see how any1 can say its a wild goose chase. The message is clear..the media lies, the goverment is behind the media, the governmnt lies, don't believe everything u see
Just because they use symbols or non direct messages doe not mean its bs..if u follow it it makes perfect sense y mike hoaxed his death
Ok, Misha, I agree about the message but I cannot say for sure Mike is behind it. As somebody else said, we could all be labrats fro some study project.
I respect everybody's opinion and I ask for the same in return. By saying that anyone who doesn't see the message is blind and dumb you just discard everybody's opinion who doesn't think like you do. That is plain rude and out of place.
I think you owe an apologize to those who felt your words were addressed to them.
I think most of people took TIAI for granted and never questioned how it all began. If you wish to continue this way it's fine by me. I also check everyday TIAI but as a rational as logical person as I see myself, I have to look at the whole picture before jumping to conclusions and I thought I should share with you my 2 cents on it.
I personally will wait for December 21st and see what happens, but I definitely wouldn't put all my money on Mike being responsible for it.
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The latest redirect (today's?) was the number 99. 99 hours = 4 days and 3 hours. December 16 (today) + 4 days 3 hours = December 20th (the day before TIAI is revealed). Could this (December 20th) be the last day of the hoax? Will everything be revealed on December 21st?
:O :O :O :O :O haha I saw the 99 and count the days.. and that was how far I went haha, thanks for your post! it makes sense.. i mean.. mostly everything makes sense if we look for it, but I'll stay with your conclusion and wait until dec 21.. if nothing happens then I'll be waiting for Feb 18 (I think someone mentioned that date), if nothing happens then.. I'll wait until june and so and so and so..
In reference to TIAI, first thanks dyanne for the explanation. related to misha post, I think that the fact that someone is giving clues, it doesn't means or implies that Michael is behind TIAI.. maybe is someone how knows something, maybe is a creative way to put on internet what he/she/it? thinks about the hoax or whatever... I do believe is clear that is showing things related with conspiracy /goverment/ lies / what we see and don't question if it's true or false.. and things like that. For me it has sense if you put it in a conspiracy theory bag.. now, if we put it in the MJ's death hoax bag, well, maybe some things wont fix like the "99" for ex. but maybe after 21/12 makes sense :O HOPEFULLY!!!
kisses!
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for me it's fine whoever re directs TIAI.
it doesn't have to be michael for me.
TIAI comes with important information. so who cares, if someone uses all of this to get a message true. it's an important message IMO
we're being lied to and manipulated and it's important to make people aware of that!
for me it doesn't only have to be about michael to be important.
this isn't BS, either if Michael's behind it or not!
this is my thought about it :)
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Was this 99 redirect done on Wednesday?
99 days from that day would be March 25th 2010...
exactly 9 months after Michael's disappearance...
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I had a look at Wiki for some info on december 21st
This are the things that I found rather surprising:
2012 - End of Maya calender (the 4 year wait from this is it) (got this one from the dutch wiki)
1937 - Disney release Snow white and the seven dwarfs (and we all know Snow White was kissed back to life)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_21)
Of course this maybe to far fetched, but I think it (again) are some nice coincidences
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Are we sure this isnt just another Sheraton Hotel thing?
Dont want to get my hopes up just yet... although that 99 thing is interesting me somewhat.
L.O.V.E
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:( nothing yet :(
I'll wait anyway :P got nothing better to do, I'm painting a table and listening to http://www.mjtunes.com/ (http://www.mjtunes.com/) :p
kisses!! Lots of L.O.V.E for everyone!