Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Hoax Videos => Topic started by: ~Souza~ on December 17, 2009, 04:36:23 AM
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[youtube:2gnlws0r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12u2rvky3d0[/youtube:2gnlws0r]
[youtube:2gnlws0r]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOqhyk-aBvc&feature=related[/youtube:2gnlws0r]
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Cant watch it. "This Video included contend from Sony Entertainment"....and is not available any longer. Is it because of the country?
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thanks now i am wagging my tail i am getting it :D
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Thank you for posting the videos!
We have a good leader on our side!
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Just wonderful videos. I really enjoy everything about Michael, His love & caring, them child abuse, which i never believed anyway when i heard them. I see him as a father figure to me, as for many years, i have not got a father, who i do not know where is.
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Cant watch it. "This Video included contend from Sony Entertainment"....and is not available any longer. Is it because of the country?
I don't know, for me it still works.
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Cant watch it. "This Video included contend from Sony Entertainment"....and is not available any longer. Is it because of the country?
I don't know, for me it still works.
No problems here either...
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I already get it before this video's!
I teached my children about it..2 are believers now,and my son is comming arround after i showed him the Murrey court video..He was like,this is really strange!
But other people..they have told me to grow up..that they tought i was smarter than that..i was to old to believe in fairy tales..and some told me i was grazy!
So it is really hard sometimes..some people really dont want to see..even wen you show them all the weird things that are going on???
If Michael wil show up again they wil know i was right about it..If not..I wil go on in history as the grazy person for my family and friends :ugeek: (but i tried :mrgreen: )
Mattie
Sorry for my English.
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I already get it before this video's!
I teached my children about it..2 are believers now,and my son is comming arround after i showed him the Murrey court video..He was like,this is really strange!
But other people..they have told me to grow up..that they tought i was smarter than that..i was to old to believe in fairy tales..and some told me i was grazy!
So it is really hard sometimes..some people really dont want to see..even wen you show them all the weird things that are going on???
If Michael wil show up again they wil know i was right about it..If not..I wil go on in history as the grazy person for my family and friends :ugeek: (but i tried :mrgreen: )
Mattie
Sorry for my English.
THE SAME HERE! MY DAUGHTER IS TELLING TO THE ALL WORLD THAT I BELIEVE THAT MJ IS ALIVE, SHE HAVE 8... THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ME MAYBE THINK THAT I'M CRAZY OR SOMETHING... NO NEED TO MENTION WHAT MY FRIENDS ARE THINKING...
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It is sad what are family and friends think
but you know what i dont care i keep talking
im hoping they will wake up at some point
i sent a video yesterday to some of my family
and they are starting to ask me questions
now instead of me always having to bring it up slowly they are asking me questions
we have to keep trying Michael never stopped and we
shouldnt either. It was hard for him to try and get across
and it is gonna be hard for us. thanks for the video it really made my day.Im so tired of
of alot of people saying tiai is playing with us like i told everyone else ive ran into with this
attitude is. I personally want to thank them if its not michael behind it. come on those redirects
are showing us about things we never cared to look into. they are important. so the redirects are
opening our eyes to the truth. this is what is going on around us. the video i sent yesterday im attaching it is one of the best videos ive ran into on youtube. it is real clips from people and we are sitting in our nice homes and ignoring the truth.we have to wake up and hurry like you said. please watch this video i posted it yesterday and i see its getting some attention
[youtube:2o994xib]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dso84B88mvI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:2o994xib]
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What a great way to bring something new and extremely important to the investigation. :)
Very beautifully done!!!! :D
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Will watch it in some minutes.
Here a little advice for the mostly GERMAN users....
big brother was invented in the Netherlands...
but it's more put into practise here in Germany...
so if you can't watch some youtube vids....and the number of vids you can't watch
increases day by day
watch them via
www.hidemyass.com (http://www.hidemyass.com)
or
www.vtunnel.com (http://www.vtunnel.com)
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yes i think it is something in this direction.. :)
we have to make a change!
together we can do it!!
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Ok...after watching both parts I think I understood your message .
I think it's a vain request...
We may want to change something..but will we really achieve it?
Watch to Denmark....
Copenhagen had to become Hopenhagen..
and now it's about to fail, because China and Brazil refuse some agreements....
There were already protests....but they weren't successful...
So I really doubt that anything powerful can be done....
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Ok...after watching both parts I think I understood your message .
I think it's a vain request...
We may want to change something..but will we really achieve it?
Watch to Denmark....
Copenhagen had to become Hopenhagen..
and now it's about to fail, because China and Brazil refuse some agreements....
There were already protests....but they weren't successful...
So I really doubt that anything powerful can be done....
If everyone would think that, indeed nothing will ever change...
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Change starts with oneself.
THE HISTORY OF THE EGG AND CHICKEN, WHO WAS THE FIRST?
THE MAN IN THE MIRROR.
IF ONE CHANGES THE WAY OF SEEING THINGS, CHANGE OF SHAPE OF THINGS ... ;)
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Count the believers....let them all contribute to make a change.
There won't happen anything major..
dreaming is allowed...but I'm just realistic, sorry.
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THE HISTORY OF THE EGG AND CHICKEN, WHO WAS THE FIRST?
Actually, the answer to that is quite simple... Dinosaurs were reptiles, they laid eggs as well ;)
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THE HISTORY OF THE EGG AND CHICKEN, WHO WAS THE FIRST?
Actually, the answer to that is quite simple... Dinosaurs were reptiles, they laid eggs as well ;)
Souza, you are so quick on your feet, lol Respect to you and Mo, I alway's appreciate you two's minds. :)
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Cant watch it. "This Video included contend from Sony Entertainment"....and is not available any longer. Is it because of the country?
No, I have the same problems...copyright-thing :roll:
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I don't have any problems watching it, maybe is it in Europe?? I'm in southeamerica BTW.
It's difficult to hope for a change when things like Copenhagen keep happening when big countries prefer to keep their money safe than to help leaving a good world for future generations. Remember TII when MJ tell us about how many trees are taken down every minute in the Amazon, and still the brazilian goverment thinks the money they make out of it it's more important than protecting the lung of the planet. That saddens me, but at the same time I'm a big believer in the power one person can have. If we make changes, even if they're small, they can make more changes and that way we can say the planet.
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YES! YES! YES!
I am so proud of what you've made.
I am so proud of what you've understood.
You have also reminded everyone that WE are the people we've been waiting for.
Time to make that change, it starts now.
G x
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Count the believers....let them all contribute to make a change.
There won't happen anything major..
dreaming is allowed...but I'm just realistic, sorry.
Obama already proved that's not true. Obama proved the power of the internet trumps the power of the media.
Take heed. Those who disregard the power of the people will fall before them.
Fawking brilliant Mo and Souza. Fawking brilliant.
Brickmen, well done.
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Count the believers....let them all contribute to make a change.
There won't happen anything major..
dreaming is allowed...but I'm just realistic, sorry.
It seems like you don't even have faith in yourself... You are underestimating the power of people, the power of joined forces. It's time to stop dreaming, because nothing is going to change as long as you keep dreaming. Wake up, open your eyes, and start acting! Talk to people, show them what's going on, convince them that it's time to take control over our own future, the future of our children!
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THIS IS ALSO IT! ;)
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The www.thisisalsoit.com (http://www.thisisalsoit.com) website now redirects to.... THIS PAGE !!! This very topic "Michael jackson's wake up call".
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these are really great videos...
the world needs to change,
but some are refusing to help in even small ways.. ;)
.this is well timed with the events occurring in copenhagen...
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I'm happy that this is today's redirect. For once, it's a straight-to-the-point message. And what a wonderful message it is. :) I hear you loud and clear! Thank you for this Souza.
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It is sad what are family and friends think
but you know what i dont care i keep talking
im hoping they will wake up at some point
i sent a video yesterday to some of my family
and they are starting to ask me questions
now instead of me always having to bring it up slowly they are asking me questions
we have to keep trying Michael never stopped and we
shouldnt either. It was hard for him to try and get across
and it is gonna be hard for us. thanks for the video it really made my day.Im so tired of
of alot of people saying tiai is playing with us like i told everyone else ive ran into with this
attitude is. I personally want to thank them if its not michael behind it. come on those redirects
are showing us about things we never cared to look into. they are important. so the redirects are
opening our eyes to the truth. this is what is going on around us. the video i sent yesterday im attaching it is one of the best videos ive ran into on youtube. it is real clips from people and we are sitting in our nice homes and ignoring the truth.we have to wake up and hurry like you said. please watch this video i posted it yesterday and i see its getting some attention
[youtube:1rgdi3zy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dso84B88mvI&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1rgdi3zy]
The BOOK OF REVELATION in the BIBLE had prophesied about these things to come... The NWO, The Beast, will take total control of a one-world govt. No one will be able to buy or sell without the mark...on the hand and on the forehead...that must be the microchip to be implanted under the skin........... :shock:
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Cant watch it. "This Video included contend from Sony Entertainment"....and is not available any longer. Is it because of the country?
I don't know, for me it still works.
Thanks Souza, seems to be a ger-Prob. But another nice user helped me. :D
Thanks here again :)
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yes i think it is something in this direction.. :)
we have to make a change!
together we can do it!!
could watch it. GREAT Videos, great work!!!! Thanks again for the 'hidemyass' :mrgreen:
But together we can change it? I would, but look around.
They're laughing their ass off about us.
I have no idea HOW to make ppl believe to change things.
They have so much hate :(
And the Vids said it all: the government is allover us!
I hope you understand my senses. But I have the feeling Im running with my HELP against big big walls!!!!!! :( It hurts. And Im only a normal person. It must be horrible for MJ to live such a live. And mostly the haters are envious.
No, Im not down, but Im a person its brain is working night and day and cant stop thinking. And therefore: Ill keep the faith. I hope more and more ppl will...... we are not yet enough people up to now.
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Ok...after watching both parts I think I understood your message .
I think it's a vain request...
We may want to change something..but will we really achieve it?
Watch to Denmark....
Copenhagen had to become Hopenhagen..
and now it's about to fail, because China and Brazil refuse some agreements....
There were already protests....but they weren't successful...
So I really doubt that anything powerful can be done....
Hey! Wait!
I am from Brazil!
We proposed a reduction o 38,9% in our emitions!!!!!!!!!!
Kyoto protocol didin´t propose any reduction on emitions to Brazil, but we are proposing a reduction! So don´t blame us!
If Copenhagen fails, there will be more powerfull people involved!
Our problem is with China ! Thay refuse to reduct. Also USA, the most powerful nation, refuses to reduct their emitions.
So don´t believe in the press! They manipulate information and blame other countries just to take off the weight out of their own shoulders!
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yes i think it is something in this direction.. :)
we have to make a change!
together we can do it!!
I absolutely agree, it definitely has something to do with all this!
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Really great videos, even if MJ really died , he still sends the message of love, and challenges us to look to what the world has become, and how we can make the change.....
Yes, he really is an angel and we should spread the message.
For example: last week a 60 year old playmate was bigger news, it totally overruled the climate top in Copenhagen, go figure.......
it opened my eyes and woke up things that I already knew.
Thnx Mo & Souza for spreading the word
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YES! YES! YES!
I am so proud of what you've made.
I am so proud of what you've understood.
You have also reminded everyone that WE are the people we've been waiting for.
Time to make that change, it starts now.
G x
Thanks G...x
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I want to send this video to everyone on my list but I need a url or something a link or something to send... help me .boy i cant even up load a picture on the computer.. souA..... THIS IS IT... I mean it this is really it..everyone keeps saying when is Mj going to return? hell he's right here.... what can I say LOVE = micheal jackson
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also can you put this all on one page..............
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We must do something and we have to start now! I think it is a damn shame with all the millions of MJ fans, that so few know of all that has been going on. I noticed on his official site http://www.michaeljackson.com (http://www.michaeljackson.com), all the fans there are still crying like he is dead, or worse yet they are drooling over his gold pants pictures. I left that site months ago when somebody mentioned a website and informed me this was a hoax. I looked into it, and of course I have been following the truth ever since. I suggest we all try going to forums and fan sites in our own country and try to get the word out to more of his fans first. They claim to love him, we have to get them on the right track! MJ must be terribly sad that a large part of his fans are not behind him on this just because they are still uninformed!
As for people who are not fans, I wouldn't try to convert them at this point, it will just turn them off to the bigger message. We can, however, try to make them see all the corruption going on in our world. I've thought of printing up some flyers with info and leaving them in public places around my town. Also, the internet in the biggest source of sharing info that we have, and we need to use it more wisely. I'm sure that Michael was counting on this going "viral" on the internet and we need to make that happen somehow! We all understand the message, we need to spread it more in other places and not spend so much time chatting among ourselves. Let's spread the message far and wide in all the public forum places we can. On tv news programs they all ask for comments and give out their twitter and facebook accounts. Let's flood them with comments on our dissatisfaction with current events!
The elite "powers that be" that are trying to take complete control and create a New World Order are money hungry greedy bastards. They are all about greed and control. But you know what? There are more of us good honest people than there are them. They control all the major industries...Media, Education, Agriculture, Big Pharma, etc. We the people supply these corporations with the money and that is how we can stop them! We need to quit bending over and letting them stick it to us...we need to turn the tables on them! There is great power in our numbers and we need to start believing in ourselves. Remember when the gas prices soared so high? If the people had gotten together and refused to buy gas for a few days, the industry would have lost so much money that they would have had to lower the prices. There are so many ways we can passively resist what is being done to us. Just this morning I got an email from my cable company informing me that program providers were demanding a 300% increase in cost starting Jan.1, 2010. I will be disconnecting my cable then as it is already nothing but garbage and I don't watch it anyway! Here's a link that they sent me (Time Warner)
http://www.rolloverorgettough.com/ (http://www.rolloverorgettough.com/)
We are constantly pushed through fear propaganda to do what they want us to do. Look at how they told us all about the deadly swine flu, and tried to scare us into rushing and getting the vaccine for it. Here in America it didn't work as well as they hoped because around 50% decided not to get the vaccine. However at any time "They" decide something is in the interest of National Security, they can then make it mandatory. This is insanity and must stop! Please watch this, just click the play button at the bottom left.
http://www.djpauledge.com/wewillnotbesi ... tml?tt=1.1 (http://www.djpauledge.com/wewillnotbesilenced/index_firstmovie.html?tt=1.1)
Stay strong and know that we can and WILL make a difference!
Love and Peace to ALL
Touched By An Angel
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Im trying to get everyone to come together also ive been trying over at the other forum if we really are gonna try and change the world we all i mean everyone has to do it. we cant have mj fans against each other and like you said have the ones on the other sites still crying. we have to become one. we have to inform and then be as one and start the fight. numbers are a powerful thing. we all have to get on the same track. if michael is watching he is probably disappointed a little we say we want to spread the message but we sit back and do nothing
heres a link to the post i have over there saying about not being afraid and coming together
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... f=11&t=805 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=805)
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YES! YES! YES!
I am so proud of what you've made.
I am so proud of what you've understood.
You have also reminded everyone that WE are the people we've been waiting for.
Time to make that change, it starts now.
G x
Thanks G! X
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I want to send this video to everyone on my list but I need a url or something a link or something to send... help me .boy i cant even up load a picture on the computer.. souA..... THIS IS IT... I mean it this is really it..everyone keeps saying when is Mj going to return? hell he's right here.... what can I say LOVE = micheal jackson
Suzie, here ate the links to the videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JolXieKhCZY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JolXieKhCZY)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLtFF5UEOE4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLtFF5UEOE4)
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:D WE DO NEED TO UNITE AS ONE IF WE ARE TO MAKE A CHANGE IT IS OUR WORLD AND IT IS OUR VOICE THAT COUNTS I AM SO WITH MJS ARMY ;)
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Ok...after watching both parts I think I understood your message .
I think it's a vain request...
We may want to change something..but will we really achieve it?
Watch to Denmark....
Copenhagen had to become Hopenhagen..
and now it's about to fail, because China and Brazil refuse some agreements....
There were already protests....but they weren't successful...
So I really doubt that anything powerful can be done....
Hey! Wait!
I am from Brazil!
We proposed a reduction o 38,9% in our emitions!!!!!!!!!!
Kyoto protocol didin´t propose any reduction on emitions to Brazil, but we are proposing a reduction! So don´t blame us!
If Copenhagen fails, there will be more powerfull people involved!
Our problem is with China ! Thay refuse to reduct. Also USA, the most powerful nation, refuses to reduct their emitions.
So don´t believe in the press! They manipulate information and blame other countries just to take off the weight out of their own shoulders!
Hey Fa....
I didn't wanna offend you...I just quoted what was reported about it.
I also know that it is not because of Brazil if it would fail....
Brazil is just a fall guy..like Murray...
Ok....let's change change our planet to a more lovely place :)
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We must do something and we have to start now! I think it is a damn shame with all the millions of MJ fans, that so few know of all that has been going on. I noticed on his official site http://www.michaeljackson.com (http://www.michaeljackson.com), all the fans there are still crying like he is dead, or worse yet they are drooling over his gold pants pictures. I left that site months ago when somebody mentioned a website and informed me this was a hoax. I looked into it, and of course I have been following the truth ever since. I suggest we all try going to forums and fan sites in our own country and try to get the word out to more of his fans first. They claim to love him, we have to get them on the right track! MJ must be terribly sad that a large part of his fans are not behind him on this just because they are still uninformed!
As for people who are not fans, I wouldn't try to convert them at this point, it will just turn them off to the bigger message. We can, however, try to make them see all the corruption going on in our world. I've thought of printing up some flyers with info and leaving them in public places around my town. Also, the internet in the biggest source of sharing info that we have, and we need to use it more wisely. I'm sure that Michael was counting on this going "viral" on the internet and we need to make that happen somehow! We all understand the message, we need to spread it more in other places and not spend so much time chatting among ourselves. Let's spread the message far and wide in all the public forum places we can. On tv news programs they all ask for comments and give out their twitter and facebook accounts. Let's flood them with comments on our dissatisfaction with current events!
The elite "powers that be" that are trying to take complete control and create a New World Order are money hungry greedy bastards. They are all about greed and control. But you know what? There are more of us good honest people than there are them. They control all the major industries...Media, Education, Agriculture, Big Pharma, etc. We the people supply these corporations with the money and that is how we can stop them! We need to quit bending over and letting them stick it to us...we need to turn the tables on them! There is great power in our numbers and we need to start believing in ourselves. Remember when the gas prices soared so high? If the people had gotten together and refused to buy gas for a few days, the industry would have lost so much money that they would have had to lower the prices. There are so many ways we can passively resist what is being done to us. Just this morning I got an email from my cable company informing me that program providers were demanding a 300% increase in cost starting Jan.1, 2010. I will be disconnecting my cable then as it is already nothing but garbage and I don't watch it anyway! Here's a link that they sent me (Time Warner)
http://www.rolloverorgettough.com/ (http://www.rolloverorgettough.com/)
We are constantly pushed through fear propaganda to do what they want us to do. Look at how they told us all about the deadly swine flu, and tried to scare us into rushing and getting the vaccine for it. Here in America it didn't work as well as they hoped because around 50% decided not to get the vaccine. However at any time "They" decide something is in the interest of National Security, they can then make it mandatory. This is insanity and must stop! Please watch this, just click the play button at the bottom left.
http://www.djpauledge.com/wewillnotbesi ... tml?tt=1.1 (http://www.djpauledge.com/wewillnotbesilenced/index_firstmovie.html?tt=1.1)
Stay strong and know that we can and WILL make a difference!
Love and Peace to ALL
Touched By An Angel
I like the flyer Idea .. would you make one.. so we can all have the some one ..like print it from our computers to all over the world. if we unite people will notice
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:D WE DO NEED TO UNITE AS ONE IF WE ARE TO MAKE A CHANGE IT IS OUR WORLD AND IT IS OUR VOICE THAT COUNTS I AM SO WITH MJS ARMY ;)
I agree. I have joined that army and I am ready to serve! :)
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Hello everyone,
I had the same throughts some time ago...
May I therefore ask you to join:
http://ffa.viviti.com/ (http://ffa.viviti.com/)
http://ffa-aff.forumotion.net/ (http://ffa-aff.forumotion.net/)
http://twitter.com/FFA_AFF (http://twitter.com/FFA_AFF)
This might be an answer or THE answer...
I would be pleased to meet you there... ;)
http://twitter.com/weeping_dolphin (http://twitter.com/weeping_dolphin)
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This Is Also It rederecting! :?
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I don't have any problems watching it, maybe is it in Europe?? I'm in southeamerica BTW.
It's difficult to hope for a change when things like Copenhagen keep happening when big countries prefer to keep their money safe than to help leaving a good world for future generations. Remember TII when MJ tell us about how many trees are taken down every minute in the Amazon, and still the brazilian goverment thinks the money they make out of it it's more important than protecting the lung of the planet. That saddens me, but at the same time I'm a big believer in the power one person can have. If we make changes, even if they're small, they can make more changes and that way we can say the planet.
Save the planet? for who? the rich countries? 3/4 of the world are "3rd world" and dying of hunger and disease that a few dollars would cure. To save future generations you say? people are dying now-don't they count? Who saves these people every day who are dying? Who do not even have simple commodities like electricity and running water. Imagine having to walk miles and miles in the boiling hot dusty envirnment for a pitcher of water barefoot across rough terrain and bush with snakes etc lurking everywhere. Save the world? If it wasn't so tragic it would be funny. For these poor people their world is finished when every 3 seconds a child will die of maleria in Africa alone, that is not counting the other countries and other diseases such as Typhoid, aids,dysentrey, cholera etc and hunger. Everyone wants to save the trees and the global warming for our future generations-thats commendable and all well and good but people are dying this very minute as I type. Why are people sweeping these poor peoples suffering under the carpet? Everyone is worried about the flipping ozone layer and the rain forest-well that hasn't happened yet-people are NOW dying. So because they live in poor countries with corrupt governments we should not care and think about OUR future, these people do not care about the trees and global warming-they are struggling just to survive and living in extreme poverty. Also the meat producers in rich countries are the biggest threat to global warming than anything else. Check it out, it's true. To save the world is impossible-even God couldn't do it. Leaders in certain countries are corrupt and greedy- FACT!
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Serendipity and Touched by an Angel, you are correct about the NWO... I have heard from very reliable sources that it has started on 11/10/09 @ 4:25 PM EST in DC. So this it a real wake up call. I might sound pessimistic, but the only thing we can do is warn people. Serendipity, the book of revelation is coming to past, I have 2 months following this issue and its not a lie. Sadly, this NWO has to come, so the Anti-Christ can come and takes the throne. People might see this as fake, but its more real than anything that is going to happen in the world. People might think this is religious mombo-jumbo, but it is not! MJ is doing the right thing by warning us. He truly loves us and does not want us to be oppressed by the dark powers of satan. This might be my second post and it might mean than I do not know anything, but I see things and I say what is true. I am a agent for and from GOD and I am just here to reaffirm things.
here is the article from the Washington Post...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... inionsbox1 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/10/AR2009111015034.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)
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i loved the video and i think that its important that everyone sees this...the sad part is that alot of people think its a joke or its not plausible for this to happend and thats far from the truth..
i just hope people open there eyes before its too late :|
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I do not know why some of you are choosing to not reply or acknowledge posts that do not fit in with the theories that you want to believe in-more than half of the world live in extreme poverty without even a simple thing like running water or a radio-some indeed do not know of Michael or any famous person and are in no position to heed his advice to "heal the world". Yes Michael tried to help, tried to make people aware of suffering, as did John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Bob Geldof etc etc but to suggest Michael could do this is totally unrealistic. There has been suffering since the beginning of mankind. Read about the 3rd world in various parts around the world, see the numbers ansd stastictics of the dying every day and the extreme suffering, death, war and disease and then tell me you feel the same. I am sorry but I have seen much suffering first hand and some in the world have no hope and no future. I have seen dead orphans in the gutter in Africa, there are very very few orphanages-in fact where I was there was none. Get a one way ticket-live there for a while and then post what you feel and I assure you your posts will be completely different. People are dying and suffering NOW! I feel very strong about this whole topic and I am sorry but some posts seem just flippant. It is too late for those dying every day.
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Serendipity and Touched by an Angel, you are correct about the NWO... I have heard from very reliable sources that it has started on 11/10/09 @ 4:25 PM EST in DC. So this it a real wake up call. I might sound pessimistic, but the only thing we can do is warn people. Serendipity, the book of revelation is coming to past, I have 2 months following this issue and its not a lie. Sadly, this NWO has to come, so the Anti-Christ can come and takes the throne. People might see this as fake, but its more real than anything that is going to happen in the world. People might think this is religious mombo-jumbo, but it is not! MJ is doing the right thing by warning us. He truly loves us and does not want us to be oppressed by the dark powers of satan. This might be my second post and it might mean than I do not know anything, but I see things and I say what is true. I am a agent for and from GOD and I am just here to reaffirm things.
here is the article from the Washington Post...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... inionsbox1 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/10/AR2009111015034.html?hpid=opinionsbox1)
very well said . i never heard anyone mention about the ani-christ thank you for mentioning. this has scared me for a long time. that is why i have decided to start with me to open my heart and try to warn others it is all we can do to start.it is all very real
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I do not know why some of you are choosing to not reply or acknowledge posts that do not fit in with the theories that you want to believe in-more than half of the world live in extreme poverty without even a simple thing like running water or a radio-some indeed do not know of Michael or any famous person and are in no position to heed his advice to "heal the world". Yes Michael tried to help, tried to make people aware of suffering, as did John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Bob Geldof etc etc but to suggest Michael could do this is totally unrealistic. There has been suffering since the beginning of mankind. Read about the 3rd world in various parts around the world, see the numbers ansd stastictics of the dying every day and the extreme suffering, death, war and disease and then tell me you feel the same. I am sorry but I have seen much suffering first hand and some in the world have no hope and no future. I have seen dead orphans in the gutter in Africa, there are very very few orphanages-in fact where I was there was none. Get a one way ticket-live there for a while and then post what you feel and I assure you your posts will be completely different. People are dying and suffering NOW! I feel very strong about this whole topic and I am sorry but some posts seem just flippant. It is too late for those dying every day.
I understand what you are saying but i know it is to late for those dying today. so do we do nothing because we didnt help them. There will always be suffering but we can make it better maybe not perfect but better what is wrong with that. and im sorry you have seen so much some of us are lucky and dont even know it
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Great video. Thanks for posting. And I agree with the last poster.
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Thanks for the video! Im gonna post it wherever i can. I send it also via email to everyone.
I did all this before , also i send flyers via mail or told people about the NWO and what is going on.
Most of them are still asleep and in my opinion most of them DONT WANT TO SEE either they are too afraid or
they live in great style/they think everything is ok....life is great bla bla...and the best thing is they think they
live in freedom....what a illusion :(
Sometimes it just makes me angry and sad that these kind of ppl entitle me as queen of nuts or
i should stop reading/watching conspiracy stuff and GET A LIFE! It hurts me to ensure these insults.
I REALLY WANT TO MAKE THEM SEE!!! :(
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Just a question really: If Michael deed indeed hoaxed his death AND he did it for the purpose of making the world a "better place" then I see a MAJOR flaw in his plan. Hoaxing his death would overshadow his message of making the world a better place. Not to mention that I don't see how his "death" really could do that. Sorry, again, he is not Jesus Christ.
And the fact that Thisisalsoit.com directs to this site, makes me further doubt it. :ugeek:
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Thanks for the video! Im gonna post it wherever i can. I send it also via email to everyone.
I did all this before , also i send flyers via mail or told people about the NWO and what is going on.
Most of them are still asleep and in my opinion most of them DONT WANT TO SEE either they are too afraid or
they live in great style/they think everything is ok....life is great bla bla...and the best thing is they think they
live in freedom....what a illusion :(
Sometimes it just makes me angry and sad that these kind of ppl entitle me as queen of nuts or
i should stop reading/watching conspiracy stuff and GET A LIFE! It hurts me to ensure these insults.
I REALLY WANT TO MAKE THEM SEE!!! :(
Oh brother. I playing the violin for you. :lol:
I'm very aware that the world sucks and tend to bring down the people who try to make the world a better place. But that does not mean that Michael hoaxed his death for that purpose. You don't really have to hoax your death to understand that truth. Nor do you have to hoax your death to get others to understand or to change. The only way the world can truly change, is when people stop FUCKING with other people because they have something they want. Either way, HOAXING YOUR DEATH does NOTHING to change any of this, even if you are Michael Jackson. :ugeek:
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Just a question really: If Michael deed indeed hoaxed his death AND he did it for the purpose of making the world a "better place" then I see a MAJOR flaw in his plan. Hoaxing his death would overshadow his message of making the world a better place. Not to mention that I don't see how his "death" really could do that. Sorry, again, he is not Jesus Christ.
And the fact that Thisisalsoit.com directs to this site, makes me further doubt it. :ugeek:
i disagree...faking his death brung attention to mike..if he had not faked his death alot of the people on this site would not be here there fore would not get the message, it also lets people see mike in a postive form again and people are more willing to listen to the message, where as alot of people may not have listen to him last year at this same time
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Thank you Mo and Souza. Great videos. I agree that hoaxing his death has brought much attention to Michael and has made many people who lost touch with his music or didn't like him or believe in him change their minds.
So, tiai is now redirecting here. Very interesting! Off topic a bit but did anyone understand what the 2009 calendar redirect yesterday was all about?
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I do not know why some of you are choosing to not reply or acknowledge posts that do not fit in with the theories that you want to believe in-more than half of the world live in extreme poverty without even a simple thing like running water or a radio-some indeed do not know of Michael or any famous person and are in no position to heed his advice to "heal the world". Yes Michael tried to help, tried to make people aware of suffering, as did John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Bob Geldof etc etc but to suggest Michael could do this is totally unrealistic. There has been suffering since the beginning of mankind. Read about the 3rd world in various parts around the world, see the numbers ansd stastictics of the dying every day and the extreme suffering, death, war and disease and then tell me you feel the same. I am sorry but I have seen much suffering first hand and some in the world have no hope and no future. I have seen dead orphans in the gutter in Africa, there are very very few orphanages-in fact where I was there was none. Get a one way ticket-live there for a while and then post what you feel and I assure you your posts will be completely different. People are dying and suffering NOW! I feel very strong about this whole topic and I am sorry but some posts seem just flippant. It is too late for those dying every day.
I've read your posts, is not that I don't want to reply them, is just that when I don't agree at all with a thread, I tend not reply, because as you said when what you have to say don't fit at all with what people want to hear, that post is just ignored, even when it's full of common sense (No ofense, just what I feel sometimes).
I do live in a Third World Country, so believe me, I know what you mean and I'm with you and your "realistic view" on this one (and I agree very often with your posts).
I don't want to be/sound negative: the message in that videos is very beautiful, though, but sometimes it sounds a bit utopic, when you see people all around, trying to find something to eat to survive (not even live, just survive) one more day. Is not that I "I'm still asleep","don't want to see", is that I've already seen enough.
I got the massage, but I think this Michael's message is not the cause, but a (great)consequence from his hoaxed death. JMO, and sorry for my english.
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Bcorn
Michael is definetly not jesus. but to me he is the one person that ive seen that is unselfish and cares for more things than alot of people can. He is a man a human that was here on earth just trying to spread love. Michael has tried to put his fears out before but he couldnt say it all.
he couldnt reach enough people. Getting the hoax forums up gives us a chance to see what he has been trying to do all along, just open your mind and heart is all . I pray to jesus not michael but i respect him with all my heart. what could a little love in this world hurt. I just dont get it. we know there is people starving people fighting for their life and so on. It will never be utopia not untill we are in heaven but what is wrong with making the best of what we have. we were all born with love in our heart but its up to us to unleash it. The hoax itself is not gonna change the world . it is us all of us little by little shutting out the evil. maybe with more love some people wont starve youll be more willing to help a starving person if you have the money to do it we might not be scared to reach out our hand if we save one person it is worth it in my book.
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Excellent videos...very well done!! xo
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This maybe a bit off topic but someone sent this to me on facebook and I thought I would share it with you since this is the first I've heard the story:
It told us by Michael's driver and friend-Gokor who was bein' interviewed by our local channel shortly after the 'memorial"(Gokor is armenian like me),So here it is-One day Gokor was driving Michael to an important meeting,Mike as usual was lookin' out of the window examining people outside,so suddenly the red light went for the cars and they stopped,so did Gokor,There was a little girl with her mum on the pavement,she was playing with her ball while her mum was busy with talkin' on phone,so th ball fell on the motorway and the green light for the cars turned on,a car was nearly to run the baby down,Mike was following all that,suddenly he ran out of car to save the baby,Gokor couldn't manage to get what was goin' on,at that moment a car was to run M.J. down and he was nearly to die,thanks God Gokor managed to get him back and the baby's mum pulled her away from the car,when Michael got into the car he and Gokor were trembling,Mike was bitterly crying of the thought that the car could run the baby down,at that moment Michael didn't care for his own life,he was ready to save the girl and die himself..."
:)
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I do not know why some of you are choosing to not reply or acknowledge posts that do not fit in with the theories that you want to believe in-more than half of the world live in extreme poverty without even a simple thing like running water or a radio-some indeed do not know of Michael or any famous person and are in no position to heed his advice to "heal the world". Yes Michael tried to help, tried to make people aware of suffering, as did John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Bob Geldof etc etc but to suggest Michael could do this is totally unrealistic. There has been suffering since the beginning of mankind. Read about the 3rd world in various parts around the world, see the numbers ansd stastictics of the dying every day and the extreme suffering, death, war and disease and then tell me you feel the same. I am sorry but I have seen much suffering first hand and some in the world have no hope and no future. I have seen dead orphans in the gutter in Africa, there are very very few orphanages-in fact where I was there was none. Get a one way ticket-live there for a while and then post what you feel and I assure you your posts will be completely different. People are dying and suffering NOW! I feel very strong about this whole topic and I am sorry but some posts seem just flippant. It is too late for those dying every day.
Well it is quite interesting you bring this up and since I think you are an intelligent poster, I don't get why you can't see the connection between the 2.
Do some research on the help that has been given to those in need, for years and years already. The people in need are black people, and the good part of the rich world has tried so many times to change their lives, have donated so much to make it better. WHY do you think they are still hungry, still dying? Where do you think most of the money disappears to? I know: to governments. If those people would have food, homes and education, they will become a voice in this world too, other than the cry for help. It means more inluential black people. That would scare the hell out of some high white men, I can assure you that.
As long as people will follow their governments blindly, without questioning their intentions, you can donate all the money in the world and it will never make a change.
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Obama better watch out then
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Just a question really: If Michael deed indeed hoaxed his death AND he did it for the purpose of making the world a "better place" then I see a MAJOR flaw in his plan. Hoaxing his death would overshadow his message of making the world a better place. Not to mention that I don't see how his "death" really could do that. Sorry, again, he is not Jesus Christ.
And the fact that Thisisalsoit.com directs to this site, makes me further doubt it. :ugeek:
Oh no, he's not Jesus Christ at all, although even Jesus Christ himself was not perfect, for he was just a human being himself, if he ever really lived at all. You think we think that? No. You think we think MLK, JFK and Princess Di where? No. Just human beings with a voice that wanted to make this world a little better, open peoples eyes. They were not allowed, Mike is not allowed.
If you are Michael Jackson and you have been ridiculed for decades, you have to do something to get the attention of the people. Just imagine that somewhere next year there will be breaking news on CNN, MJ still alive and having a press conference, how many people would watch that you think?
Now imagine June 25 never happened, Michael wants to say a few words. No breaking news, most people wouldn't even hear about it and those who know, wouldn't probably even watch.
Also hoaxing your death, with everything surrounding it, all the inconsistencies is a good point to let people see they have been accepting the most insane things for truth. We are only with a few, the rest of the world thinks he's dead, yet they don't see how ridiculous the media has reported. Besides that, if he wouldn't have been 'dead' he would not be able to do this, they would have shut him up months ago.
And as for the redirect. If you want to play paranoia, I advise you to go to some other blogs and fora, where they can't talk of anything else but Badkolo, Mo, Souza, Amy, MJHD, MJDHI and TIAI, but I think you will miss out while spending time there.
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Well. This is getting more exciting. But, ever since this link appeared (TIAI) a couple of months ago, I'd gotten the idea or impression that whomever behind TIAI seems to think President Obama is a "puppet" for the NWO or whomever behind the scenes...
Is that right that this is the webmaster's (webmaster of TIAI)view of Obama? :?:
I like Obama and his family-seeing them in the White House gives me extra hope.
I'm a bit confuzzled. :?: :?
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Just a question really: If Michael deed indeed hoaxed his death AND he did it for the purpose of making the world a "better place" then I see a MAJOR flaw in his plan. Hoaxing his death would overshadow his message of making the world a better place. Not to mention that I don't see how his "death" really could do that. Sorry, again, he is not Jesus Christ.
And the fact that Thisisalsoit.com directs to this site, makes me further doubt it. :ugeek:
Oh no, he's not Jesus Christ at all, although even Jesus Christ himself was not perfect, for he was just a human being himself, if he ever really lived at all. You think we think that? No. You think we think MLK, JFK and Princess Di where? No. Just human beings with a voice that wanted to make this world a little better, open peoples eyes. They were not allowed, Mike is not allowed.
If you are Michael Jackson and you have been ridiculed for decades, you have to do something to get the attention of the people. Just imagine that somewhere next year there will be breaking news on CNN, MJ still alive and having a press conference, how many people would watch that you think?
Now imagine June 25 never happened, Michael wants to say a few words. No breaking news, most people wouldn't even hear about it and those who know, wouldn't probably even watch.
Also hoaxing your death, with everything surrounding it, all the inconsistencies is a good point to let people see they have been accepting the most insane things for truth. We are only with a few, the rest of the world thinks he's dead, yet they don't see how ridiculous the media has reported. Besides that, if he wouldn't have been 'dead' he would not be able to do this, they would have shut him up months ago.
And as for the redirect. If you want to play paranoia, I advise you to go to some other blogs and fora, where they can't talk of anything else but Badkolo, Mo, Souza, Amy, MJHD, MJDHI and TIAI, but I think you will miss out while spending time there.
I do understand what you are saying but cannot wholly agree. Think back..... It was not the media who reported Michael's death=it was Jermaine, also the family have held a memorial and a funeral so the reports of michaels "death" are not due to the media, nor has all the information since then-that has also been from the jackson family. You say people don't see how ridiculous the media is for reporting it-again it isn't the media-it is the Jackson family. As far as I am concerned if this is indeed a hoax death as we all believe it to be then for a change the media and tabloids have been victims to this hoax and indeed have played a great part of sensationalising and writing of what they believed to be Michaels death as told to all by the Jackson family. I do not mean to be disagreeable but we need to consider the implications and truth in each of our theories and ideas. If anything due to the lies the Jacksons have told the world (if Michael is alive then yes they have lied) then the media have been used and are victims, not that they don't deserve it but nevertheless it is true.
BTW, if anyone believes in Jesus Christ then he was perfect, he would have to be.
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Just a question really: If Michael deed indeed hoaxed his death AND he did it for the purpose of making the world a "better place" then I see a MAJOR flaw in his plan. Hoaxing his death would overshadow his message of making the world a better place. Not to mention that I don't see how his "death" really could do that. Sorry, again, he is not Jesus Christ.
And the fact that Thisisalsoit.com directs to this site, makes me further doubt it. :ugeek:
Oh no, he's not Jesus Christ at all, although even Jesus Christ himself was not perfect, for he was just a human being himself, if he ever really lived at all. You think we think that? No. You think we think MLK, JFK and Princess Di where? No. Just human beings with a voice that wanted to make this world a little better, open peoples eyes. They were not allowed, Mike is not allowed.
If you are Michael Jackson and you have been ridiculed for decades, you have to do something to get the attention of the people. Just imagine that somewhere next year there will be breaking news on CNN, MJ still alive and having a press conference, how many people would watch that you think?
Now imagine June 25 never happened, Michael wants to say a few words. No breaking news, most people wouldn't even hear about it and those who know, wouldn't probably even watch.
Also hoaxing your death, with everything surrounding it, all the inconsistencies is a good point to let people see they have been accepting the most insane things for truth. We are only with a few, the rest of the world thinks he's dead, yet they don't see how ridiculous the media has reported. Besides that, if he wouldn't have been 'dead' he would not be able to do this, they would have shut him up months ago.
And as for the redirect. If you want to play paranoia, I advise you to go to some other blogs and fora, where they can't talk of anything else but Badkolo, Mo, Souza, Amy, MJHD, MJDHI and TIAI, but I think you will miss out while spending time there.
I do understand what you are saying but cannot wholly agree. Think back..... It was not the media who reported Michael's death=it was Jermaine, also the family have held a memorial and a funeral so the reports of michaels "death" are not due to the media, nor has all the information since then-that has also been from the jackson family. You say people don't see how ridiculous the media is for reporting it-again it isn't the media-it is the Jackson family. As far as I am concerned if this is indeed a hoax death as we all believe it to be then for a change the media and tabloids have been victims to this hoax and indeed have played a great part of sensationalising and writing of what they believed to be Michaels death as told to all by the Jackson family. I do not mean to be disagreeable but we need to consider the implications and truth in each of our theories and ideas. If anything due to the lies the Jacksons have told the world (if Michael is alive then yes they have lied) then the media have been used and are victims, not that they don't deserve it but nevertheless it is true.
BTW, if anyone believes in Jesus Christ then he was perfect, he would have to be.
Coming from the Jacksons? Yes of course. The media can not make up his death like that. But the media reports, without questioning, like the mostly do. Media a victim? I don't think so.
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Thanks for the video! Im gonna post it wherever i can. I send it also via email to everyone.
I did all this before , also i send flyers via mail or told people about the NWO and what is going on.
Most of them are still asleep and in my opinion most of them DONT WANT TO SEE either they are too afraid or
they live in great style/they think everything is ok....life is great bla bla...and the best thing is they think they
live in freedom....what a illusion :(
Sometimes it just makes me angry and sad that these kind of ppl entitle me as queen of nuts or
i should stop reading/watching conspiracy stuff and GET A LIFE! It hurts me to ensure these insults.
I REALLY WANT TO MAKE THEM SEE!!! :(
Oh brother. I playing the violin for you. :lol:
I'm very aware that the world sucks and tend to bring down the people who try to make the world a better place. But that does not mean that Michael hoaxed his death for that purpose. You don't really have to hoax your death to understand that truth. Nor do you have to hoax your death to get others to understand or to change. The only way the world can truly change, is when people stop FUCKING with other people because they have something they want. Either way, HOAXING YOUR DEATH does NOTHING to change any of this, even if you are Michael Jackson. :ugeek:
I also agree with BCorn, hoaxing your death cannot change the world, no matter who you are. You either have goodness, love and compassion in your heart or you have not, unfortunately the majority of the rich nations have not as Michael learned this when the leeches and parasites took advantage. If you are a mean spirited person then nothing or nobody ever will change that.
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Oh no, he's not Jesus Christ at all, although even Jesus Christ himself was not perfect, for he was just a human being himself, if he ever really lived at all. You think we think that? No. You think we think MLK, JFK and Princess Di where? No. Just human beings with a voice that wanted to make this world a little better, open peoples eyes. They were not allowed, Mike is not allowed.
If you are Michael Jackson and you have been ridiculed for decades, you have to do something to get the attention of the people. Just imagine that somewhere next year there will be breaking news on CNN, MJ still alive and having a press conference, how many people would watch that you think?
Now imagine June 25 never happened, Michael wants to say a few words. No breaking news, most people wouldn't even hear about it and those who know, wouldn't probably even watch.
Also hoaxing your death, with everything surrounding it, all the inconsistencies is a good point to let people see they have been accepting the most insane things for truth. We are only with a few, the rest of the world thinks he's dead, yet they don't see how ridiculous the media has reported. Besides that, if he wouldn't have been 'dead' he would not be able to do this, they would have shut him up months ago.
And as for the redirect. If you want to play paranoia, I advise you to go to some other blogs and fora, where they can't talk of anything else but Badkolo, Mo, Souza, Amy, MJHD, MJDHI and TIAI, but I think you will miss out while spending time there.
I do understand what you are saying but cannot wholly agree. Think back..... It was not the media who reported Michael's death=it was Jermaine, also the family have held a memorial and a funeral so the reports of michaels "death" are not due to the media, nor has all the information since then-that has also been from the jackson family. You say people don't see how ridiculous the media is for reporting it-again it isn't the media-it is the Jackson family. As far as I am concerned if this is indeed a hoax death as we all believe it to be then for a change the media and tabloids have been victims to this hoax and indeed have played a great part of sensationalising and writing of what they believed to be Michaels death as told to all by the Jackson family. I do not mean to be disagreeable but we need to consider the implications and truth in each of our theories and ideas. If anything due to the lies the Jacksons have told the world (if Michael is alive then yes they have lied) then the media have been used and are victims, not that they don't deserve it but nevertheless it is true.
BTW, if anyone believes in Jesus Christ then he was perfect, he would have to be.
Coming from the Jacksons? Yes of course. The media can not make up his death like that. But the media reports, without questioning, like the mostly do. Media a victim? I don't think so.
I can't say I am on the media's side and never have been but you say the media reported without questioning, ok thats true but surely it is not only ridiculous but without proof (we have been 6 months without concrete proof) how could they question the authenticity and believe that Jermaine was lying when he stood up before the world and announced his brothers death! Should they have written in the headlines "Jermaine announces death but MJ isn't dead"! We have ALL being lied to, even the media, MJ had his reasons and am sure he was doing this for the very best of interests, had good reason and I cannot blame him but we are all victims. We have been heartbroken and the media was used. There is no other way to look at it.
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Thanks for the video! Im gonna post it wherever i can. I send it also via email to everyone.
I did all this before , also i send flyers via mail or told people about the NWO and what is going on.
Most of them are still asleep and in my opinion most of them DONT WANT TO SEE either they are too afraid or
they live in great style/they think everything is ok....life is great bla bla...and the best thing is they think they
live in freedom....what a illusion :(
Sometimes it just makes me angry and sad that these kind of ppl entitle me as queen of nuts or
i should stop reading/watching conspiracy stuff and GET A LIFE! It hurts me to ensure these insults.
I REALLY WANT TO MAKE THEM SEE!!! :(
yes i have the same as you. i also warn people and tell them all about what is going on, but they only hear it if they want to.. they often seem to be listening, but they don't hear what i say, if you understand what i mean...
it's indeed an illusion that we live in freedom and it's so bad that most of the people really think that they live in freedom, that they make there own choises and not being manipulated!
they so strongly believe, that how they see things, is the truth, i can't get trough to them...
for the last moths i've seen by myself, how it works.. i've been from thinking the one thing and the second day the other.
so i realized that i thought i was pretty aware of manipulation, but figured out, that i really have to look out for it, because before i know, i'm being made into another believe again. :?
doubles/no doubles
twin/no twin
and so on....
i also have jumped from one conclusion to the other.. and it's an interesting progress to see for me.
and i thought i was aware of how it works and still it happens with me, if i don't look out. :) so for me it's also an interesting wake up call.
i now found some kind of piece with this whole situation.
whatever Michaels plan is, i have full trust in him, that he has planned it all out very well!
i get the message..
it's all for love and together we can make that change!
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Well. This is getting more exciting. But, ever since this link appeared (TIAI) a couple of months ago, I'd gotten the idea or impression that whomever behind TIAI seems to think President Obama is a "puppet" for the NWO or whomever behind the scenes...
Is that right that this is the webmaster's (webmaster of TIAI)view of Obama? :?:
I like Obama and his family-seeing them in the White House gives me extra hope.
I'm a bit confuzzled. :?: :?
well...i honestly believe Obama is a ''puppet'' of the ones behind the scenes...
they know very well what the people want... and what the people want to see...
i understand you like him, and ''they'' understand that too..
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Michael could not have reached us without going underground.
Why was it important to reach us?
If you want to move things you need multiplicators.
Multiplicators need to be believing into the subject.
Belief you cannot indoctrinate or it will be lip-confessing and sway away with the lightest breeze.
Belief must grow from within to not be weak and fade away.
We are witnessing viral marketing.
Watch out for guerilla marketing that will join it.
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Coming from the Jacksons? Yes of course. The media can not make up his death like that. But the media reports, without questioning, like the mostly do. Media a victim? I don't think so.
i also want to point out that yes the jacksons told the media this but as journalist they should have checked the facts about this situation instead of running with it. For starters who is michael joseph jackson? mike has been in the industry for how long? and they dont even know his name. Its the same with the allegations, they should check facts before reporting things. so imo its the medias fault for running with false storys and pictures ect. and if someone was doing there job the hoax would not have gone far at all because it would have stopped with the announcement made but jermaine, not a doctor and his name.
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Je n'arrive pas à voir cette vidéo :roll:
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concerning the nwo video
i want to put thid again- as i did several times without being heard - here
this is what should be done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPnJX_S3 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPnJX_S3vmU&feature=related)
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i have already posted all this in the thread
thisisalsoit
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Coming from the Jacksons? Yes of course. The media can not make up his death like that. But the media reports, without questioning, like the mostly do. Media a victim? I don't think so.
i also want to point out that yes the jacksons told the media this but as journalist they should have checked the facts about this situation instead of running with it. For starters who is michael joseph jackson? mike has been in the industry for how long? and they dont even know his name. Its the same with the allegations, they should check facts before reporting things. so imo its the medias fault for running with false storys and pictures ect. and if someone was doing there job the hoax would not have gone far at all because it would have stopped with the announcement made but jermaine, not a doctor and his name.
But we-his staunch fans do not know his name!! and we still havn't reached a conclusion, there has been pages and pages of post on if his middle name was Joe or Joseph! I cannot imagine the media disputing that Michael was not dead when his own Brother announced it, his Mother, Father and Sisters and other Brothers spoke of it and they held a memorial and funeral and you expect them to believe that Michael is alive? They have been lied to, as the world has-as we have! They are journalists, not the FBI!
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But we-his staunch fans do not know his name!! and we still havn't reached a conclusion, there has been pages and pages of post on if his middle name was Joe or Joseph! I cannot imagine the media disputing that Michael was not dead when his own Brother announced it, his Mother, Father and Sisters and other Brothers spoke of it and they held a memorial and funeral and you expect them to believe that Michael is alive? They have been lied to, as the world has-as we have! They are journalists, not the FBI!
umm i always thought his name was michael joe, i didnt think other wise until he died. and im sure they pulled his court doc about the allegation, when he died which clearly state JOE and at that point they should have known that that was his true name. They also could have went thru old footage and interview also to put something togethe in memorial, and so what his family annouced it its does not take an fbi agent to realize that jermaine should not have done the annoucement and that no dr. has spoke out. and your rite they held all those things but yet you, a regular person with no media connection, thought something was off and thats why your here rite? no body,no autopsy,no burial for 3months, no arrest..come on now, even if they at first thought he was dead by now they should know something isnt rite.
and as far as us being lied to...we have been lied to about much bigger things like hurricane katrina, 9/11 ect no need to take this personal :roll:
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I already get it before this video's!
I teached my children about it..2 are believers now,and my son is comming arround after i showed him the Murrey court video..He was like,this is really strange!
But other people..they have told me to grow up..that they tought i was smarter than that..i was to old to believe in fairy tales..and some told me i was grazy!
So it is really hard sometimes..some people really dont want to see..even wen you show them all the weird things that are going on???
If Michael wil show up again they wil know i was right about it..If not..I wil go on in history as the grazy person for my family and friends :ugeek: (but i tried :mrgreen: )
Mattie
Sorry for my English.
THE SAME HERE! MY DAUGHTER IS TELLING TO THE ALL WORLD THAT I BELIEVE THAT MJ IS ALIVE, SHE HAVE 8... THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ME MAYBE THINK THAT I'M CRAZY OR SOMETHING... NO NEED TO MENTION WHAT MY FRIENDS ARE THINKING...
I know how you feel my Family thinks I've lost my mine I try to get them to watch the youtube videos but the stll say I'm crazy and that Michael is dead and let it go and get on with my life but I can't it feels like a higher powers got a hold of me and I can't give up hope his is not still with us ...i was a Michael fan the early years 80's and 90's then I lost touch of his music ..so when they said he died it was like something came over me and I feel in love with him all over again , but different this time I can't stop thinking about him and I feel something connected to him like he knows we're here for him like he can feel our love , almost like spirital and i'VE REALLY NEVER BEEN SPIRTIAL !So this is kinda weard to me why I can't shake Him out of my mine .. can anyone out there explane why I feel so stongely about Him and proving He is still alive becouse I sures the Hell can't , Maybe I am lossing my mine ???
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Oh brother. I playing the violin for you. :lol:
I'm very aware that the world sucks and tend to bring down the people who try to make the world a better place. But that does not mean that Michael hoaxed his death for that purpose. You don't really have to hoax your death to understand that truth. Nor do you have to hoax your death to get others to understand or to change. The only way the world can truly change, is when people stop FUCKING with other people because they have something they want. Either way, HOAXING YOUR DEATH does NOTHING to change any of this, even if you are Michael Jackson. :ugeek:
I also agree with BCorn, hoaxing your death cannot change the world, no matter who you are. You either have goodness, love and compassion in your heart or you have not, unfortunately the majority of the rich nations have not as Michael learned this when the leeches and parasites took advantage. If you are a mean spirited person then nothing or nobody ever will change that.
First of all i wanna ask you BCorn whats so funny about my post? :?:
I totally agree with misha86
i disagree...faking his death brung attention to mike..if he had not faked his death alot of the people on this site would not be here there fore would not get the message, it also lets people see mike in a postive form again and people are more willing to listen to the message, where as alot of people may not have listen to him last year at this same time
I was one of these persons who believed in the words the media told about Michael, i still feel ashamed of it that i ever had these thoughts about him. :cry: after Michael "died" I had a bad vibe about it...i felt that something is not right ... I cant explain it and im glad that im now able to see what goes on....
@Souza: You take the words right out of my mouth.... i love your posts!
yes i have the same as you. i also warn people and tell them all about what is going on, but they only hear it if they want to.. they often seem to be listening, but they don't hear what i say, if you understand what i mean...
it's indeed an illusion that we live in freedom and it's so bad that most of the people really think that they live in freedom, that they make there own choises and not being manipulated!
they so strongly believe, that how they see things, is the truth, i can't get trough to them...
for the last moths i've seen by myself, how it works.. i've been from thinking the one thing and the second day the other.
so i realized that i thought i was pretty aware of manipulation, but figured out, that i really have to look out for it, because before i know, i'm being made into another believe again. :?
doubles/no doubles
twin/no twin
and so on....
i also have jumped from one conclusion to the other.. and it's an interesting progress to see for me.
and i thought i was aware of how it works and still it happens with me, if i don't look out. :) so for me it's also an interesting wake up call.
i now found some kind of piece with this whole situation.
whatever Michaels plan is, i have full trust in him, that he has planned it all out very well!
i get the message..
it's all for love and together we can make that change!
I know what you mean! Same here.....In the last 6 months i really thought (i still do sometimes lol) that im going to lose my mind....
All these theories, the twins the doubles etc...I was online every day to find out the truth ....i had a lack of sleep ,
i was more online then out of my house...i just wanted to give up and if you realise how difficult it is to convince people ... it still happens
to me...i´m exhausted ....but then again i remember MJ´s words Keep the faith... ;)
Sometimes im wondering if all the people on here followed Thisisalsoit ?? And if they really watched all these videos ...for example The Arrivals ??? Endgame ??
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I know how you feel my Family thinks I've lost my mine I try to get them to watch the youtube videos but the stll say I'm crazy and that Michael is dead and let it go and get on with my life but I can't it feels like a higher powers got a hold of me and I can't give up hope his is not still with us ...i was a Michael fan the early years 80's and 90's then I lost touch of his music ..so when they said he died it was like something came over me and I feel in love with him all over again , but different this time I can't stop thinking about him and I feel something connected to him like he knows we're here for him like he can feel our love , almost like spirital and i'VE REALLY NEVER BEEN SPIRTIAL !So this is kinda weard to me why I can't shake Him out of my mine .. can anyone out there explane why I feel so stongely about Him and proving He is still alive becouse I sures the Hell can't , Maybe I am lossing my mine ???
About the spiritual.... EVERYBODY is spiritual! We are all spiritual beings!!! Two Words : Spiritual Awakening...Google it ;)
(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2750/11752708.jpg)
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Michael is giving us all a new perspective . We are stepping back, looking at the big picture, thinking outside the box, using parts of our minds that we didn't know existed, questioning what has never been questioned before, opening our eyes to things we were blind to in the past. He is extremely intelligent, a genius, having great power of mind, and we can probably say his plan has been developing for a long period of time. He is a perfectionist and he has taken all issues into consideration. We have only touched the tip of the iceberg in learning what his extraordinary project is designed to accomplish. Thank you Michael , not only for your wake up call, but for your agape love.
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watch this please
http://www.youtube.com/user/DivBMesa (http://www.youtube.com/user/DivBMesa)
several parts
whateverhappens
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I already get it before this video's!
I teached my children about it..2 are believers now,and my son is comming arround after i showed him the Murrey court video..He was like,this is really strange!
But other people..they have told me to grow up..that they tought i was smarter than that..i was to old to believe in fairy tales..and some told me i was grazy!
So it is really hard sometimes..some people really dont want to see..even wen you show them all the weird things that are going on???
If Michael wil show up again they wil know i was right about it..If not..I wil go on in history as the grazy person for my family and friends :ugeek: (but i tried :mrgreen: )
Mattie
Sorry for my English.
THE SAME HERE! MY DAUGHTER IS TELLING TO THE ALL WORLD THAT I BELIEVE THAT MJ IS ALIVE, SHE HAVE 8... THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ME MAYBE THINK THAT I'M CRAZY OR SOMETHING... NO NEED TO MENTION WHAT MY FRIENDS ARE THINKING...
I know how you feel my Family thinks I've lost my mine I try to get them to watch the youtube videos but the stll say I'm crazy and that Michael is dead and let it go and get on with my life but I can't it feels like a higher powers got a hold of me and I can't give up hope his is not still with us ...i was a Michael fan the early years 80's and 90's then I lost touch of his music ..so when they said he died it was like something came over me and I feel in love with him all over again , but different this time I can't stop thinking about him and I feel something connected to him like he knows we're here for him like he can feel our love , almost like spirital and i'VE REALLY NEVER BEEN SPIRTIAL !So this is kinda weard to me why I can't shake Him out of my mine .. can anyone out there explane why I feel so stongely about Him and proving He is still alive becouse I sures the Hell can't , Maybe I am lossing my mine ???
My experience has been similar. Hugs.
I guess that we all are now into an spiral mood to find out what happened to Michael. If he is dead, justice. If he is alive, to see him coming out and explaining his reasons.
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I appreciate what you say here. I've been taking this for granted.
"what a rebuke to the professional world of investigators and media—who can’t even figure out that MJ is alive, much less the reason for the hoax and his message to the world, etc."
It's quite astounding, considering the enormity of the attention given to his "death". Then again, one can't expect much from imaginations of those who are closed-minded, self-serving & ego-driven.
I found this a curious photo as a choice for a death memorial.[attachment=0:2xmde31p]phoweu- lala_emo_mca- photobucket-.jpg[/attachment:2xmde31p]
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While the concept of reaching out, holding your neighbors hand and telling them you care for them is a nice gesture; let's face it, it's a big world out there and things are not that simple unfortunately. There are extremists that do not like our lifestyle, our religion, or our freedom and they are dead set to get everyone marching to their drum.
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What's the difference between Michael Jackson and all his haters? Michael Jackson sold 750 million albums worldwide, has the worldwide highest selling album, and got rich enough to build his own theme park. None of his haters did. Star this if you agree with me!
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*Bumping post*
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Both videos are removed ...............bugga. Cant watch them. :( :(
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Both videos are removed ...............bugga. Cant watch them. :( :(
I have to upload them again.
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He is teaching us, he's leading the way...
[youtube:m1o71s4u]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JolXieKhCZY[/youtube:m1o71s4u]
[youtube:m1o71s4u]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLtFF5UEOE4[/youtube:m1o71s4u]
Greetz,
~Souza~ & *Mo*
Both videos dont work for me (Im in UK) :?
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Both videos dont work for me (Im in UK) :?
Both videos are removed ...............bugga. Cant watch them. :( :(
I have to upload them again.
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Unfortunately, I cannot see it... Sony!!! :(
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Cant watch it. "This Video included contend from Sony Entertainment"....and is not available any longer. Is it because of the country?
I don't know, for me it still works.
No problems here either...
I'm in the US, link does not work for me, not on youtube either
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harleyblonde:
I don't believe MJ owes us anything. He's done plenty for the world, more than he ever had to (he could have retired at age 20 after all) and he's been through more CRAP in his life than most people can even begin to comprehend. Try dealing with several hundred depositions and lawsuits, and having your genitals photographed and probed by police, and dealing with child molestation accusations in front of the entire world, and having your property vandalized, and see how you feel then... So what if we've been lied to? If it's for a good cause, or even just to save Michael's life (this is a man who received death threats!) then I'm all for it! My own sadness does NOT come before Michael's life or that of his children, or the vilification and heartbreak MJ endured over the years.
And f*** the media. They deserve a lesson.
Besides, we can choose our beliefs and our actions. The media can choose to say "MJ has been reported dead" instead of "MJ is dead"... They, and we, have a CHOICE. We aren't victims as long as we can think for ourselves, and we should take responsibility instead of blaming everyone and their grandma.
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Cant watch it. "This Video included contend from Sony Entertainment"....and is not available any longer. Is it because of the country?
I don't know, for me it still works.
No problems here either...
I'm in the US, link does not work for me, not on youtube either
it doesn't work for me either, i'm in europe
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I am not screaming, it's just that some people overlooked my post:
The YouTube acoount of MJDHI was suspended, so I will have to upload the videos again. I will notify you when they're up again. But it's good to see the topic is up again.
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I couldn't watch the vids either when I clicked on the ones Souza embedded in the thread. But I went on youtube and typed "michael jackson wake up call" and there they were! When I clicked on the ones in this thread, it said something about copyright infringement or something...but if you just search youtube, they work just fine.
Great vids by the way!!!
With L.O.V.E. always.
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I have really been fortunate in trying to make believers out of my friends and family and after explaining a few things about 09/25/09 many of them are coming around. I was talking to my older sister about Michael one night and I told her that Michael is alive and she asked me why I said that and when I explained to her, her comment was that she believes it and she said that Someone like Michael would be capable of doing something like that and probably only Michael could pull that off. She said she had a twinge of doubt about his death too but never really dwell on it.
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The videos in the original post are working again.
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Keep putting them up as fast as they take 'em down Souza! Great videos!! They really get to the crux of the situation we find ourselves in at the moment and have for many years past. Michael did what he could to make a change, heal the world, and did it with all the L.O.V.E. he had in his heart. Now it is our turn....Of course, if he comes back, he will shock the world and it will certainly help us to do what has to be done to make this world a better place.
IMHO :D ;) 8-)
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Beautiful videos Souza! It's neat to hear some of the background to the Hold My Hand song and video importance, in MLK's speech where he talks about his dream that black children would one day hold hands with white children, and the Oxford speech where he insists his audience hold hands with each other. Seeing all this makes me love him all the more. :D :cry: :D
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I already get it before this video's!
I teached my children about it..2 are believers now,and my son is comming arround after i showed him the Murrey court video..He was like,this is really strange!
But other people..they have told me to grow up..that they tought i was smarter than that..i was to old to believe in fairy tales..and some told me i was grazy!
So it is really hard sometimes..some people really dont want to see..even wen you show them all the weird things that are going on???
If Michael wil show up again they wil know i was right about it..If not..I wil go on in history as the grazy person for my family and friends :ugeek: (but i tried :mrgreen: )
Mattie
Sorry for my English.
Mattie, I know what you are going through, my sister makes fun of me all the time. She tells me, yeah Michael Jackson is still alive, yeah yeah yeah.. you should see her face when she says it, you know she is making fun of me. She tells me stop being stupid he is dead, let him rest in peace. I tell her you believe what you want, and I believe he is still alive. All these non believers will feel stupid onece Michael will come back.
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THIS IS AMAZING!! Glad I finally got to watch them. The ending was PERFECTION!! I totally just got motivated to go stick it to the man. haha. Seriously! Well done :D