Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: MJsFan4Ever on December 08, 2010, 11:46:17 PM
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I honestly think that this video is completely AMAZING...BEAUTIFUL!
This is what the world needs now days, to hold hands and work together as a family.
Only this way we will get to see brighter days.
[youtube:2akdxwzg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCCnxBos10&feature=sub[/youtube:2akdxwzg]
What do you think about the ending?
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WOW....and wow and WOW...thankyou so much......Loved it. So sad actually....Nearly cried all the way through it.
I'm not just ready to tear this apart for clues yet. I just want to enjoy the moment. ;)
OH SHIT....did you hear in the beginning when the fans are saying "Love you Michael" and the you hear someone say..........
"COME BACK"
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Beautiful video... don't know why I'm crying and feeling a lil sad, though...
Can someone get a screen shot of the handwritten note at 2:22? Thanks
At the ending? You mean MJ's face?
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WOW....and wow and WOW...thankyou so much......Loved it. So sad actually....Nearly cried all the way through it.
I'm not just ready to tear this apart for clues yet. I just want to enjoy the moment. ;)
OH SHIT....did you hear in the beginning when the fans are saying "Love you Michael" and the you hear someone say..........
"COME BACK"
yup :shock:
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so the video didnt really have a heavenly theme, spirtual? yeah but not heavenly..... heaven can wait?
ummm I dont really know what is up in the ending...
the come back makes me go :o :shock: :? :P :) :D :lol:
Ill watch it more attentively and try to come up with an analysis 8-)
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Beautiful video... don't know why I'm crying and feeling a lil sad, though...
Can someone get a screen shot of the handwritten note at 2:22? Thanks
At the ending? You mean MJ's face?
Here's what the note says
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
The ending?
Somebody is walking on the star and leaves something behind but I can't make out what it is :?
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WOW....and wow and WOW...thankyou so much......Loved it. So sad actually....Nearly cried all the way through it.
I'm not just ready to tear this apart for clues yet. I just want to enjoy the moment. ;)
OH SHIT....did you hear in the beginning when the fans are saying "Love you Michael" and the you hear someone say..........
"COME BACK"
Yes, I heard it also. Sounds like a child's voice...
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Beautiful video... don't know why I'm crying and feeling a lil sad, though...
The ending?
Somebody is walking on the star and leaves something behind but I can't make out what it is :?
It is something reflected in the puddle.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/HMH2.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/HMH2upsidedown.png)
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Beautiful video... don't know why I'm crying and feeling a lil sad, though...
Can someone get a screen shot of the handwritten note at 2:22? Thanks
At the ending? You mean MJ's face?
Here's what the note says
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
The ending?
Somebody is walking on the star and leaves something behind but I can't make out what it is :?
Thanks for the screen shot. "he hides the..." wonder what that means. Also, I wonder why the ending is someone walking over one of those Hollywood stars? Is it to commemorate Michael's name in Hollywood?
@SD - seems like a...dry flower? :?
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tears are streaming down my face. LOVED IT. BRAVO! beautiful beautiful beautiful!!!!!
i agree with mjthelegendlives, i do feel a little sad too :(
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The ending?
Somebody is walking on the star and leaves something behind but I can't make out what it is :?
At the end. There is a seed on the ground near the star, it is raining, the person steps on the seed and then you see the reflection of the top of the flower in the water - in other words, the seed spouts and becomes a flower.
It reminds me of John 12:24
"I tell you the truth, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds."
New International Version (©1984)
For more of an explanation of this verse - http://bible.cc/john/12-24.htm (http://bible.cc/john/12-24.htm)
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At 3:38 in the video, the brown, oval shaped seed is almost in the center of the frame, a few inches above the top gold outline of the star point.
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7 of hearts
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/HMHcards.png)
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I honestly think that this video is completely AMAZING...BEAUTIFUL!
This is what the world needs now days, to hold hands and work together as a family.
Only this way we will get to see brighter days.
[youtube:2x77zj1i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCCnxBos10&feature=sub[/youtube:2x77zj1i]
What do you think about the ending?
Thank you very much,the new video is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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And I said I wouldn't tear it apart just yet .. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ok, some of the things I found interesting.....I took baby screenshots to fit on the page.
I see two red doors alot....symbolizing ..."A red door provides protection. In Biblical times, the Hebrew slaves were instructed to smear blood of a lamb on their front doors to protect their first born from the angel of death. In old Catholicism churches painted the doors of the church red to represent the blood of Christ. Passing through the door would mean that you were on holy ground. Some believe a red door protects the occupants from evil."
And then they did use a handless man...after all, but just one hand.
Then we have a HAND OF CARDS, or cards of hands.....
I couldn't work out why there is a building and a plane...But there seems to be a lot of heavenly and almost ghostly images.....around MJ.
Now in half of the video, Akon is wearing white.when he is together with MJ in the scenes......and then other times he wears black...GOOD Vs EVIL...Heaven and EARTH The stars could mean something too. Notice some strange pics here...Help !!!
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omg, check this out, i'm sure it's nothing but it's very interesting. I found this by total accident. Right at the very end of the video where the guy is walking in the puddle, for a split second @ 3:38 if you pause it at the right moment, you get this.
It almost looks like a silouhette of MJ, no? and there is definetely, without a doubt, a red "M" there. :shock:
EDIT: OMG, the silhouette to the left looks like a side profile of some kind of face.. almost evil even with a kind of scary mouth, no ? :? :?
(http://i53.tinypic.com/29zas5e.jpg)
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Love the song and the video !
But I can't find what's the thing on the Hollywood Bld Star at the end...
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Angels throughout the video.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Angel.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Angel2.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Angelstatue.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Angel3.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Angel4.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Angel6.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Angel5.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/MJangel1.png)
Archangel Michael?
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/MjAngel2.png)
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so im trying to come up with a coherent analysis
Well, we first see the fans love you Michael and we hear a child’s voice say come back, then they release see through balloons
I found an interesting meaning of balloons in dreams,
balloons symbolize celebration and festivities. you need to acknowledge your inner child to see a balloonpop in your dream
some of the things that pop up are:
piano: cant figure out what it would mean other than music.
Pink rose: in fact there is a lot of pink in the video
We see a pink rose twice in the video, and we see pink rose petals on ground,
We see a girl in the bathroom and there are pink roses on the walls, we also see a man putting a pink rose on the bed
Primary Significance: Love, Gratitude, Appreciation
Pink roses have a rich history that comes with being one of the longest existing roses known to us - in fact, pink roses have even been depicted in some of the earliest known pieces of art. When roses first began to be cultivated, the majority of them existed in various shades of pink, from the palest pink to the deepest crimson. Prior to that, pink roses were the dominant species among wild roses, and were likely among the earliest roses to evolve.
In time, discoveries of new rose species and the development of modern hybridization techniques would introduce many new colors of roses. Also introduced at this time were roses with the ability to bloom repeatedly throughout the year. This was a significant development, as earlier garden roses would typically only bloom once a year. As more colors and types of roses entered the palette, each began to take on their own meanings. So too, did the meaning of the pink rose become more refined.
Above all, roses are a symbol for love and gratitude. As the pink rose was the most prevalent among the old garden roses, it was most strongly associated with these sentiments. While different roses may have more specific meanings, these are still the underlying message of any color rose. Pink roses also now carry a connotation of grace and elegance, as well as sweetness and poetic romance. Different shades of pink also carry their own significance. Dark pink roses are symbolic of gratitude and appreciation, and are a traditional way to send a message of thanks. Light pink roses are associated with gentleness and admiration, and can also be used as an expression of sympathy.
With the many ways in which they can be used to express a range of meanings, pink roses continue to maintain their popularity. The beautiful appearance and fragrance so strongly associated with roses in general, as well as their symbolic importance, can be traced back to the pink rose. While much has changed over the years, pink roses have consistently held their place of prominence in the world of flowers. Today, pink roses enjoy their own unique position representing elegance and refinement, as well as communicating thanks and admiration. The recipient of an arrangement of pink roses is sure to feel appreciated and special.
There is a lot more pink in the video, we see dancers and people in pink , little girls dancing in a pink room with michael’s album cover posted on the walls, which brings me to this post a member posted last year:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1025 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1025)
its about archangel michael and at one point it says:
I gather all of you: you come with each of your skills and you add them to those of your sisters’ and brothers. Your skills will be used in concert to change world events. This, dear hearts, is the factor of change in conjunction with my force of mighty blue light. To my blue light you will add the white and golden light of the Godhead, and these rays will infiltrate the world until they ignite the pink ray.
The pink ray of love will permeate all on Earth and will transmute any thoughts not of God. Those who go against this avalanche of thought will certainly be of a nature which will choose defiance against God, and they will not be allowed to create their errors in the new life that is coming to humanity.
I hope I didnt make a lot of grammar and spelling mistakes, im just like this right now :D
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omg, check this out, i'm sure it's nothing but it's very interesting. I found this by total accident. Right at the very end of the video where the guy is walking in the puddle, for a split second @ 3:38 if you pause it at the right moment, you get this.
It almost looks like a silouhette of MJ, no? and there is definetely, without a doubt, a red "M" there.
I saw that too....it is a silouhette of MJ....and what about his writing???? Now that is obviously there for a reason...Have we worked out what it says ????
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And I said I wouldn't tear it apart just yet .. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ok, some of the things I found interesting.....I took baby screenshots to fit on the page.
I see two red doors alot....symbolizing ..."A red door provides protection. In Biblical times, the Hebrew slaves were instructed to smear blood of a lamb on their front doors to protect their first born from the angel of death. In old Catholicism churches painted the doors of the church red to represent the blood of Christ. Passing through the door would mean that you were on holy ground. Some believe a red door protects the occupants from evil."
And then they did use a handless man...after all, but just one hand.
Then we have a HAND OF CARDS, or cards of hands.....
I couldn't work out why there is a building and a plane...But there seems to be a lot of heavenly and almost ghostly images.....around MJ.
Now in half of the video, Akon is wearing white.when he is together with MJ in the scenes......and then other times he wears black...GOOD Vs EVIL...Heaven and EARTH The stars could mean something too. Notice some strange pics here...Help !!!
looks like we're doing the same thing :lol:
thanks for pointing these things out in the pictures, I think I might know what some could mean, ill just have to get back to the sources and then post
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The picture of MASTER 22
Numerology lifepath 22 is a master builder. The number 22 is very powerful. Anyone possessing this lifepath number has a date with destiny.
First are your Character Traits
•Extremely capable of reaching the very top of his/her chosen profession
•An inborn understanding of material problems and their forces
•Very perceptive in most things
•The inner fire of a 22 is visible to all he/she comes into contact with
•The nervous tension felt by a 22 cannot often be hidden
The Lesson
The lifepath 22 must learn to live up to his/her potential being although aware and highly perceptive as he/she is will find self often frustrated at not being able to put the puzzle together when confronted with a problem. Learning to harness the great power to accomplish great things will not come to the 22 in his/her early years.
After maturity will come better understanding and he/she will be a wonder to see in all his/her endeavors. Learning how to harness this great potential and use it constructively for the betterment of those around him/her or the world in general will be the lesson for this lifetime.
http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm (http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm)
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....and what about his writing???? Now that is obviously there for a reason...Have we worked out what it says ????
If i had to guess what the writing is in that note and finish off what we don't see.. My guess would be "inside he hides the tears".. but it's just a wild guess.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
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Dying/Dead Red Rose
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Dyingrose.png)
Someone as Michael places it on the desk. It is then brought magically back to life which you can tell by how it is glowing with the "light".
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Broughtbacktolife.png)
We are then shown a Pink Rose a couple times more, in full bloom, full of life.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Infullbloom.png)
Some helpful keywords pertaining to symbolic rose meaning:
* Love
* Honor
* Faith
Numerology partners with the symbolism of the rose. For example, in art of the renaissance, a rose with eight petals is a message of rebirth and renewal.
In alchemical texts and art, a rose with seven petals is a symbol of inclusion, universal understanding and order. Presumably, because in Pythagorean numerology the number seven is iconic of the perfection in the specific unfolding the universe as well as human understanding.
We see a partnership between the rose and numbers in Freemasonry too where three roses are symbolic of a guiding principle. Each of the three roses seen in Freemason symbology indicates abiding 1) Love, 2) Life, and 3) Light.
In mythology, rose meaning is associated with Aphrodite (Greek) goddess of love who was often depicted adorned with roses around her head, feet and or neck. In lore, we track down this association when we discover that a rose bush grew within the pool of blood spilled from Aphrodite’s slain lover (Adonis). We can interpret the symbolism here several ways. The most common interpretation is that the rose symbolizes an immortal love or a union that will never fade - even through time or death.
Similarly in Christian lore, a rose bush was said to have grown at the site of Christ’s death. His blood serving is often associated with a red rose, combined with its thorns is thus symbolized the ultimate sacrifice.
In addition to being a symbol of love, the rose is also symbolic carrier of secrets or tacit understanding. The term “sub rosa” means under the rose and comes from the practice of Romans hanging roses above meeting tables. Here it was understood that anything said at this table, beneath the hanging roses, was forbidden to be repeated elsewhere.
Rose meaning is found in their color too:
Red Rose: Sacrifice, Immortal love, Health, Memorial, Passion
Pink Rose: First love, Innocence, Healing
http://www.whats-your-sign.com/rose-meaning.html
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....and what about his writing???? Now that is obviously there for a reason...Have we worked out what it says ????
If i had to guess what the writing is in that note and finish off what we don't see.. My guess would be "inside he hides the tears".. but it's just a wild guess.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
Thankyou....Maybe its MJ's rough notes of this song...as there seems to be other writing in the background as well... :? :? :?
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7 Green Lights
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Seven.png)
People in the light.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Saveaspeopleinthelight.png)
I am not sure what this is a statue of. An Angel? Peter Pan? Any ideas?
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Statue1.png)
This is a religious statue of some kind.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Statue2.png)
Wheel of Life
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Wheeloflife.png)
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tears are streaming down my face. LOVED IT. BRAVO! beautiful beautiful beautiful!!!!!
i agree with mjthelegendlives, i do feel a little sad too :(
I was feeling saddened watching that video i got say as well.
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about the hand gesture that is made through out the video, even more than holding hands.....
it is also the picture on the flying cards,
michael made it in his final rehersal
it was discussed in a thread last year i believe, here is a link,
viewtopic.php?f=92&t=5271&p=95612&hilit=hand+evil+eye#p9561 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=5271&p=95612&hilit=hand+evil+eye#p9561)
the khamsa:
The khamsa is often incorporated in jewelry and wall hangings, as a superstitious defense against the evil eye.
(http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/26/hamsa.jpg)
it has an ancient egyptian origin:
In the Pharaonic times to the palm of five separate fingers is a symbol of the good gods who prevent the work of the envious devil !
and just from my arab back ground, people put up there hands like that when they are afraid of the evil eye,
its interesting to see how this is bringing us back to last year
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7 Green Lights
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Seven.png)
People in the light.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Saveaspeopleinthelight.png)
I am not sure what this is a statue of. An Angel? Peter Pan? Any ideas?
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Statue1.png)
This is a religious statue of some kind.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Statue2.png)
Wheel of Life
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Wheeloflife.png)
I noticed that statue as well, Im not familiar with religious stutues but maybe someone will reccognze it, it seems to focus on the hands though...
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We are shown a dying woman. There appears to be a cross in the window behind her maybe. Two people are holding her hands.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Dyingwoman.png)
She is gazing off into the distance, looking very forlorn and ill.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Dyingwoman2.png)
We see what she is looking at. A beautiful lush garden, a better place, heaven.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Heaven-1.png)
The light comes on her, she no longer looks ill or sad.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Dyingwoman3.png)
Then the image is of someone reaching up towards the sun. The sun is symbolic of God.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Reachinguptothelight.png)
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there is a lot of footage of MJ from the dangerous tour, in the outfit that we now know is a fencing shirt, thanks to TMZ doing a story about the Juliens auction
http://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2010/icons-and-idols/icatalog.html
Dangerous era is a time where MJ really rebeled,
which brings me to the upside down devil horns pose, which is flashed at least three times...
I think that is MJ's way of telling us that he is behind this and that they didnt kill him,
there were always pics of michael from the bad era and that is when many believe mj broke free,
he was telling us he was outhinking them a long time ago,
this video is a gift so that we keep the faith
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Star/Pentagram/Light in the order they appeared in the video.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star1.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star2.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star3.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star4.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star5.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star6.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star7.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star8.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star9.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star10.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star11.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star16.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star12.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star13.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star15.png)
Star Symbolism
A star is a symbol of achievement, ranking, and authority.
http://symbolism.wikia.com/wiki/Star
Christianity
Christ as a Pentagram, from Valeriano Bolzani's Hieroglyphica (Basel, 1556)
The pentagram is used as a Christian symbol for the five senses, and if the letters S, A, L, V, and S are inscribed in the points, it can be taken as a symbol of health (from Latin salus).
Medieval Christians believed that the "pentalpha" symbolizes the five wounds of Christ.
The pentagram figured in a heavily symbolic Arthurian romance: it appears on the shield of Sir Gawain in the 14th century poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. As the poet explains, the five points of the star each have five meanings: they represent the five senses, the five fingers, the five wounds of Christ, the five joys that Mary had of Jesus (the Annunciation, the Nativity, the Resurrection, the Ascension, and the Assumption), and the five virtues of knighthood which Gawain hopes to embody: noble generosity, fellowship, purity, courtesy, and compassion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagram#Christianity
Six Pointed Star
The six-pointed star is the Creator's Star or Star of Creation. Its six points stand for the six days of creation, and are also represent the six attributes of God: power, wisdom, majesty, love, mercy and justice.
This star is the same as the Star of David, a symbol of Judaism modern-day Israel. The six-pointed star is of ancient origin and is used in many other religions with a variety of meanings.
http://www.religionfacts.com/christianity/symbols/6-point-star.htm
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....and what about his writing???? Now that is obviously there for a reason...Have we worked out what it says ????
If i had to guess what the writing is in that note and finish off what we don't see.. My guess would be "inside he hides the tears".. but it's just a wild guess.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
Thankyou....Maybe its MJ's rough notes of this song...as there seems to be other writing in the background as well... :? :? :?
Yep you're both right "inside he hides the tears" and "rough notes"
(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/31364/0/lot31364.jpg)
Taken from Juliens Auction website: http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/11/lot/2584/
The description says: A single page of lined notebook paper with rough lyrics in black marker in the hand of Michael Jackson reading, "as to pray now / away now. / Nothing's for Christmas / Fighting trying to hide his fears / crying but no one hears / inside he hides the tears." Below is an additional paragraph that has been crossed out reading, "Michael Mckeller / feels he must get away. / he's left alone to play today / nobody cares to stay." The lyrics appear to be an early draft for an unreleased song titled "Michael Mckeller."
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....and what about his writing???? Now that is obviously there for a reason...Have we worked out what it says ????
If i had to guess what the writing is in that note and finish off what we don't see.. My guess would be "inside he hides the tears".. but it's just a wild guess.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
Thankyou....Maybe its MJ's rough notes of this song...as there seems to be other writing in the background as well... :? :? :?
Yep you're both right "inside he hides the tears" and "rough notes"
(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/31364/0/lot31364.jpg)
Taken from Juliens Auction website: http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/11/lot/2584/
The description says: A single page of lined notebook paper with rough lyrics in black marker in the hand of Michael Jackson reading, "as to pray now / away now. / Nothing's for Christmas / Fighting trying to hide his fears / crying but no one hears / inside he hides the tears." Below is an additional paragraph that has been crossed out reading, "Michael Mckeller / feels he must get away. / he's left alone to play today / nobody cares to stay." The lyrics appear to be an early draft for an unreleased song titled "Michael Mckeller."
oh great find,
so the "fencing shirt" and the note,
anything else from Juliens Auction website appear in the video :?: :mrgreen:
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....and what about his writing???? Now that is obviously there for a reason...Have we worked out what it says ????
If i had to guess what the writing is in that note and finish off what we don't see.. My guess would be "inside he hides the tears".. but it's just a wild guess.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
Thankyou....Maybe its MJ's rough notes of this song...as there seems to be other writing in the background as well... :? :? :?
Yep you're both right "inside he hides the tears" and "rough notes"
(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/31364/0/lot31364.jpg)
Taken from Juliens Auction website: http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/11/lot/2584/
The description says: A single page of lined notebook paper with rough lyrics in black marker in the hand of Michael Jackson reading, "as to pray now / away now. / Nothing's for Christmas / Fighting trying to hide his fears / crying but no one hears / inside he hides the tears." Below is an additional paragraph that has been crossed out reading, "Michael Mckeller / feels he must get away. / he's left alone to play today / nobody cares to stay." The lyrics appear to be an early draft for an unreleased song titled "Michael Mckeller."
Wow, i can't believe you found the exact letter. Awesome, nice job :D . Now i wonder why they chose those particular words in the music video.
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Great video, I love it! I count 3 shadows, or person in front of the light source that are very interesting and dare I say it, look like MJ!?!
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so looks like I wont be able to sleep until I finish analysing everything lol :lol:
good think everyone here did a great job and I dont have a lot left to think about :D
we see what looks like sad cherubs
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Statue1.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Angelstatue.png)
I think it could be a refrence to the song heaven can wait from the invencible album, here are the lyrics
"Heaven Can Wait"
[CHORUS]
Tell the angels no, I don’t wanna leave my baby alone
I don’t want nobody else to hold you
That’s a chance I’ll take
Baby I’ll stay, Heaven can wait
No, if the angels took me from this earth
I would tell them bring me back to her
It’s a chance I’ll take, maybe I’ll stay
Heaven can wait
You’re beautiful
Each moment spent with you is simply wonderful
This love I have for you girl it’s incredible
And I don’t know what I’d do, if I can’t be with you
The world could not go on so every night I pray
If the Lord should come for me before I wake
I wouldn’t wanna go if I can’t see your face, can’t hold you close
What good would Heaven be
If the angels came for me I’d tell them no
[CHORUS]
Unthinkable
Me sitting up in the clouds and you are all alone
The time might come around when you’d be moving on
I’d turn it all around and try to get back down to my baby girl
Can’t stand to see nobody kissing, touching her
Couldn’t take nobody loving you the way we were
What good would Heaven be
If the angels come for me I’d tell them no
[CHORUS]
Oh no, can’t be without my baby
Won’t go, without her I’d go crazy
Oh no, guess Heaven will be waiting
Ooh
Oh no, can’t be without my baby
Won’t go, without her I’d go crazy
Oh no, guess Heaven will be waiting
Ooh
[CHORUS]
Just leave us alone, leave us alone
Please leave us alone
they are sad because they want him to be with him in heaven but he is still here with us
als another interesting part is the girl behind the curtain, with a yellow flower on it,
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Star9.png)
we know sometimes michael used she or a refers to the fans or the public as a female in his songs, its interesting to see that it looks like the girl is behind a curtain which reminds me of the video for one more chance, he is the audience right now!
and thanks to murrays ties we now know that the colour yellow means, waiting for a loved one to come back, a return and so on
Yellow Flowers
Yellow is the color of joy. Yellow stimulates creative and intellectual energy. It brings clarity to decision-making and improves concentration. Men usually think of yellow as a childish color, but everyone sees it as the color of gold, sun and energy.
Yellow combines well with nearly every other color. It does riot however have a wide range of tints. Bright yellow is by far the easiest color to see - just like the sunflower fields of Kansas, yellow symbolizes summer, warmth and vitality.
YELLOW FLOWERS
Yellow, as with most light colors, blooms earliest, so is naturally associated with spring. Spring bouquets frequently feature yellow and white tulips. Yellow daffodils symbolize unrequited love, a yellow rose stands for friendship and yellow flowers are associated with Easter and Passover.
SPATIAL EFFECTS OF YELLOW FLOWERS
Yellow is sunny, friendly and easy to combine. It enlarges a space and blooms with little light, on account of its strong reflection.
Yellow is any color of light that stimulates both the red and green cone cells of the retina, but not the blue cone cells. Yellow flowers like the meaning that generated in above line for yellow color spells the unmatched power of the color yellow in bringing new dimensions to your life instrumental moments. Flowers are among the top priority in any kind of possible human emotions and celebration.
Smiling faces comes to the picture when you spot a bouquet of bright daffodils or a pot filled with sun-drenched chrysanthemums–the color yellow evokes feelings of joy and lightheartedness. Also a symbol of friendship, a bouquet bursting with yellow blooms sends a message of new beginnings and happiness.
btw thank you Serenitys_Dream for posting the pictures :)
I think this is enough for me today, i hope i get to sleep! I have a lot other notes that Im going to look into more in the morning.... and ill even have to watch it again when im not sleepy, my notes will probabbly sound insane to me in the morning,
well anyway ill head to bed now before i try to prove that harvey was in the video disguised as Akon :lol:
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....and what about his writing???? Now that is obviously there for a reason...Have we worked out what it says ????
If i had to guess what the writing is in that note and finish off what we don't see.. My guess would be "inside he hides the tears".. but it's just a wild guess.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
Thankyou....Maybe its MJ's rough notes of this song...as there seems to be other writing in the background as well... :? :? :?
Yep you're both right "inside he hides the tears" and "rough notes"
(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/31364/0/lot31364.jpg)
Taken from Juliens Auction website: http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/11/lot/2584/
The description says: A single page of lined notebook paper with rough lyrics in black marker in the hand of Michael Jackson reading, "as to pray now / away now. / Nothing's for Christmas / Fighting trying to hide his fears / crying but no one hears / inside he hides the tears." Below is an additional paragraph that has been crossed out reading, "Michael Mckeller / feels he must get away. / he's left alone to play today / nobody cares to stay." The lyrics appear to be an early draft for an unreleased song titled "Michael Mckeller."
Wow, i can't believe you found the exact letter. Awesome, nice job :D . Now i wonder why they chose those particular words in the music video.
We have been speeking recently about the lyrics here viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7714&p=126669&hilit=mckeller#p126669 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7714&p=126669&hilit=mckeller#p126669) and here viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7714&p=126669&hilit=mckeller#p126669 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7714&p=126669&hilit=mckeller#p126669).
Maybe it's a clue, a warning not to expect too much too early: "Nothing's for Christmas"?
No BAM this year, maybe? ..Just guessing...
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Serenity dreams..... I know you can answer this for me as you are awesome.... who directed and had the vision for this video? Thank you in advance
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Err anyone noticed the 16 + 5 thing?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/xgbby8.jpg)
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Serenity dreams..... I know you can answer this for me as you are awesome.... who directed and had the vision for this video? Thank you in advance
Mark Pellington
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Pellington#Music_video_filmography
(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTY1MDU1MDIyMF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDA3MTc1MQ@@._V1._SX214_CR0,0,214,314_.jpg)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0671210/
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Err anyone noticed the 16 + 5 thing?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/xgbby8.jpg)
Wow! ;)
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Beautiful video... don't know why I'm crying and feeling a lil sad, though...
The ending?
Somebody is walking on the star and leaves something behind but I can't make out what it is :?
It is something reflected in the puddle.
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/HMH2.png)
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/HMH2upsidedown.png)
I think looking at it now, it's the reflection of a palm tree.....
Also,the 1645 or as it looks, 16+5=21=777! :shock:
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i LOVED the music video!! :D
What was up with the end though, like after MJ faded away? The random foot stepping on the hollywood star...? :shock:
Err anyone noticed the 16 + 5 thing?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/xgbby8.jpg)
21... December 21, 2012? :shock: :?
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I cried and cried...this is an amazing video, thank you Michael.Has a lot of clues , but now i can't think...later .WE miss you, come back please .
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I believe it's Michael walking on the star.
There's something about Hollywood..
Look at some of the new songs:
Do You Know Where Your Children Are? - '' Now she's on the move, she's off to Hollywood''
Monster - ''Too bad (Too bad), (Ooh) Hollywood ''
Hollywood Tonight - ''She's going Hollywood. She's going Hollywood tonight.''
What's this all about? I've never heard MJ sing about Hollywood before i believe. Now it's allready on 3 tracks.
I can't help but keep thinking of that V FOR VANQUISH thingy. I know it's probably not Michael. But what if it is him..?
And yes, he's still posting video's. He's just keeping it quite kinda like in the movie right?
http://vforvanquish.com/ (http://vforvanquish.com/)
love the clip btw. although i believe it needed a little more Michael. and the clips should have been longer. If you look at the behind the scene's footage, you can see the little kid dancing allot more. 2bad it's not getting used here.
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i LOVED the music video!! :D
What was up with the end though, like after MJ faded away? The random foot stepping on the hollywood star...? :shock:
Err anyone noticed the 16 + 5 thing?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/xgbby8.jpg)
21... December 21, 2012? :shock: :?
Hmmm, it more looks like 1645 not 16+5, IMO
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i LOVED the music video!! :D
What was up with the end though, like after MJ faded away? The random foot stepping on the hollywood star...? :shock:
Err anyone noticed the 16 + 5 thing?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/xgbby8.jpg)
21... December 21, 2012? :shock: :?
Hmmm, it more looks like 1645 not 16+5, IMO
1645
1+6 = 7
4+5 = 9
:?
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....and what about his writing???? Now that is obviously there for a reason...Have we worked out what it says ????
If i had to guess what the writing is in that note and finish off what we don't see.. My guess would be "inside he hides the tears".. but it's just a wild guess.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
Thankyou....Maybe its MJ's rough notes of this song...as there seems to be other writing in the background as well... :? :? :?
Yep you're both right "inside he hides the tears" and "rough notes"
(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/31364/0/lot31364.jpg)
Taken from Juliens Auction website: http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/11/lot/2584/
The description says: A single page of lined notebook paper with rough lyrics in black marker in the hand of Michael Jackson reading, "as to pray now / away now. / Nothing's for Christmas / Fighting trying to hide his fears / crying but no one hears / inside he hides the tears." Below is an additional paragraph that has been crossed out reading, "Michael Mckeller / feels he must get away. / he's left alone to play today / nobody cares to stay." The lyrics appear to be an early draft for an unreleased song titled "Michael Mckeller."
Wow, i can't believe you found the exact letter. Awesome, nice job :D . Now i wonder why they chose those particular words in the music video.
We have been speeking recently about the lyrics here viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7714&p=126669&hilit=mckeller#p126669 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7714&p=126669&hilit=mckeller#p126669) and here viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7714&p=126669&hilit=mckeller#p126669 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7714&p=126669&hilit=mckeller#p126669).
Maybe it's a clue, a warning not to expect too much too early: "Nothing's for Christmas"?
No BAM this year, maybe? ..Just guessing...
Someone from this video must of purchased these "MJ notes" from Juliens Auctions..otherwise, how could they of used it in this video???? Hmmmmmm...the plot thickens. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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i LOVED the music video!! :D
What was up with the end though, like after MJ faded away? The random foot stepping on the hollywood star...? :shock:
Err anyone noticed the 16 + 5 thing?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/xgbby8.jpg)
21... December 21, 2012? :shock: :?
Hmmm, it more looks like 1645 not 16+5, IMO
1645
1+6 = 7
4+5 = 9
:?
7+9=16
1+6=7... :lol:
Thank you Michael!
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i LOVED the music video!! :D
What was up with the end though, like after MJ faded away? The random foot stepping on the hollywood star...? :shock:
Err anyone noticed the 16 + 5 thing?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/xgbby8.jpg)
21... December 21, 2012? :shock: :?
Hmmm, it more looks like 1645 not 16+5, IMO
1645
1+6 = 7
4+5 = 9
:?
7+9=16
1+6=7... :lol:
Thank you Michael!
16+5=21
7+7+7=21
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The picture of MASTER 22
Numerology lifepath 22 is a master builder. The number 22 is very powerful. Anyone possessing this lifepath number has a date with destiny.
http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm (http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm)
[center:2jc0zu8k](http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=11308)[/center:2jc0zu8k]
It's not MASTER 22, It's MASTER 21.
[center:2jc0zu8k]21 = 7+7+7[/center:2jc0zu8k]
If it were Master 22, the arrow would be pointing to the center between 20 and 24 but it's closer to 20 so it's 21.
[center:2jc0zu8k]three seven!![/center:2jc0zu8k]
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The picture of MASTER 22
Numerology lifepath 22 is a master builder. The number 22 is very powerful. Anyone possessing this lifepath number has a date with destiny.
http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm (http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm)
[center:1cwoub0n](http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=11308)[/center:1cwoub0n]
It's not MASTER 22, It's MASTER 21.
[center:1cwoub0n]21 = 7+7+7[/center:1cwoub0n]
If it were Master 22, the arrow would be pointing to the center between 20 and 24 but it's closer to 20 so it's 21.
[center:1cwoub0n]three seven!![/center:1cwoub0n]
Thankyou for that...God Bless
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The picture of MASTER 22
Numerology lifepath 22 is a master builder. The number 22 is very powerful. Anyone possessing this lifepath number has a date with destiny.
http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm (http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm)
[center:gjc4w7l8](http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=11308)[/center:gjc4w7l8]
It's not MASTER 22, It's MASTER 21.
[center:gjc4w7l8]21 = 7+7+7[/center:gjc4w7l8]
If it were Master 22, the arrow would be pointing to the center between 20 and 24 but it's closer to 20 so it's 21.
[center:gjc4w7l8]three seven!![/center:gjc4w7l8]
:o :o
Thankyou for that...God Bless
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oh great find,
so the "fencing shirt" and the note,
anything else from Juliens Auction website appear in the video :?: :mrgreen:
welll.. if ytou want to be a little far fetched.... the vicory tour album cover looks a bit like the hangar doors opening....
kinda..just kinda. ;)
(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/31180/0/lot31180.jpg)
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What about this..
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The picture of MASTER 22
Numerology lifepath 22 is a master builder. The number 22 is very powerful. Anyone possessing this lifepath number has a date with destiny.
http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm (http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm)
[center:1iqb6erm](http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=11308)[/center:1iqb6erm]
It's not MASTER 22, It's MASTER 21.
[center:1iqb6erm]21 = 7+7+7[/center:1iqb6erm]
If it were Master 22, the arrow would be pointing to the center between 20 and 24 but it's closer to 20 so it's 21.
[center:1iqb6erm]three seven!![/center:1iqb6erm]
Thankyou for that...God Bless
It's all for L.O.V.E. ;)
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Amazing Video !! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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anyone know what the carousel could symbolise? or the ferris wheel , other than the circle of life?
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This video is so beautiful and very sad!
I loved it, but I'm crying! :cry: :cry:
I miss you so much, Michael!!!
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we see lots of feathers in the video:
A feather symbolize a new beginning! It means a new life ahead. A feather symbolize hope and it means that the feather in the indian tribes means good luck!!
and also see children in costumes, I think it could represent Michael in disguise.... should we look for him here? or is it just in general?
another thing I noticed is the white picket fence:
A picket fence, ideally white, is seen by some as a symbol of the ideal middle-class suburban life, with a family, children, large house and peaceful living. This stems from the fact that houses in quiet, middle-class neighborhoods often have a garden, which then is typically surrounded by a picket fence.[1] In recent years, some people have associated picket fences with what they regard as the more negative aspects of this lifestyle. For example, the director David Lynch uses ironic images of the picket fence in his 1986 film Blue Velvet.
btw, wasnt there a listing for a person with no hands, why didnt they use Dave Dave, his hands are disable due to the burns, I know we wouldve wanted to see him again :lol:
but how about seeing O2 guy again :lol:
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....and what about his writing???? Now that is obviously there for a reason...Have we worked out what it says ????
If i had to guess what the writing is in that note and finish off what we don't see.. My guess would be "inside he hides the tears".. but it's just a wild guess.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
Thankyou....Maybe its MJ's rough notes of this song...as there seems to be other writing in the background as well... :? :? :?
Yep you're both right "inside he hides the tears" and "rough notes"
(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/31364/0/lot31364.jpg)
Taken from Juliens Auction website: http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/11/lot/2584/
The description says: A single page of lined notebook paper with rough lyrics in black marker in the hand of Michael Jackson reading, "as to pray now / away now. / Nothing's for Christmas / Fighting trying to hide his fears / crying but no one hears / inside he hides the tears." Below is an additional paragraph that has been crossed out reading, "Michael Mckeller / feels he must get away. / he's left alone to play today / nobody cares to stay." The lyrics appear to be an early draft for an unreleased song titled "Michael Mckeller."
oh great find,
so the "fencing shirt" and the note,
anything else from Juliens Auction website appear in the video :?: :mrgreen:
how about the white glove
http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/11/lot/2391/from/find-lots/
looks like its doing the ok sign, not really but sort of
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Totally amazing video..... :D :D :D :D :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: 8-)
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....and what about his writing???? Now that is obviously there for a reason...Have we worked out what it says ????
If i had to guess what the writing is in that note and finish off what we don't see.. My guess would be "inside he hides the tears".. but it's just a wild guess.
(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
Thankyou....Maybe its MJ's rough notes of this song...as there seems to be other writing in the background as well... :? :? :?
Yep you're both right "inside he hides the tears" and "rough notes"
(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/31364/0/lot31364.jpg)
Taken from Juliens Auction website: http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/11/lot/2584/
The description says: A single page of lined notebook paper with rough lyrics in black marker in the hand of Michael Jackson reading, "as to pray now / away now. / Nothing's for Christmas / Fighting trying to hide his fears / crying but no one hears / inside he hides the tears." Below is an additional paragraph that has been crossed out reading, "Michael Mckeller / feels he must get away. / he's left alone to play today / nobody cares to stay." The lyrics appear to be an early draft for an unreleased song titled "Michael Mckeller."
oh great find,
so the "fencing shirt" and the note,
anything else from Juliens Auction website appear in the video :?: :mrgreen:
how about the white glove
http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/11/lot/2391/from/find-lots/
looks like its doing the ok sign, not really but sort of
IMPO it looks like the 6 sign
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Yep you're both right "inside he hides the tears" and "rough notes"
(http://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/31364/0/lot31364.jpg)
Taken from Juliens Auction website: http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/11/lot/2584/
The description says: A single page of lined notebook paper with rough lyrics in black marker in the hand of Michael Jackson reading, "as to pray now / away now. / Nothing's for Christmas / Fighting trying to hide his fears / crying but no one hears / inside he hides the tears." Below is an additional paragraph that has been crossed out reading, "Michael Mckeller / feels he must get away. / he's left alone to play today / nobody cares to stay." The lyrics appear to be an early draft for an unreleased song titled "Michael Mckeller."[/quote]
here are some aditional pages for this Mckeller lyrics....
(http://i39.tinypic.com/25gcwgo.jpg)
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2:22 in the video..
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7782/222rxa.jpg)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6118/222o0.jpg
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^ The plane you mean? :?
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There are some things I have noticed:
The building you can see at the beginning seems very very egypt to me ( did you notice that it is open one time, btw)
And there is this picture I am posting. The lightman from TII???????
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0:29 seconds you see a child with a red heart in their hands .. Sacred Heart of Jesus "?, Heart, love and religion go together. And this video has a religious meaning.
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i am not sure but i kind of get the impression that the video is following the cancer patient from like a knowledge of the decease stage thru to healing. can't say for sure . any one else see it or is it just me. :?
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Beautiful video for a beautiful song. It came on right at 11:30 last night when I first saw it.
At the 0:29 mark of the video, there are three upside-down pyramids on the blanket on the bed...I wish I knew how to do screen shots. Maybe someone could help me out here pretty please? :)
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I tried to stay away...I knew it would be a water works for me. This song is so hard for me to listen to. From the moment I learned of it, I tried to stay away. I knew the video would be worse on me. One of the last things my dad said to me was, "hold my hand"....he was in the hospital. :cry: Sorry to get so emotional......I try to just carry on, but sometimes it just stops me in my tracks. The song is very beautiful. I was OK just hearing it. But this video has done me in. I doubt I'll be able to watch it again soon.
In reading all this thread, I am again reminded of the brilliant minds here. You should all be very proud of each other! I wasn't able to pick up so much....too many tears. However, reading this it does all come back. Serenity- the green lights remind me of "green man". The 1645 (I think that's what it says)....number of days? Military time? Date in history? It seems to stand for something (address 1645)....yes the numerology is apparent.....you are amazing!
Anyways, that's all I can muster right now. The tears are back...........love to all.
Blessings
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What about this..
hey 2good2btrue..
i asked my bf who is into musik n all...
he said its the brand of mixers/amplifiers muti use..
from what i seen at rest the dial should be to the right at about 20..but not positive..
here is more info ...
http://www.greatplainsaudio.com/vintage_altec/352A_mixeramplifier_ALL_Part_1.pdf
hopes this help..kind of reminds me of 2000watts
huggs n faith to you
suzz
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What about this..
The needle is just below -2 or 79.
the needle is not pointing to 80 else it would be lined up with the black dot below the 80 but it's not. So it's 79. 7+9=16, 1+6=7
Just like the street address. 1645, 1+6=7, 4+5=9, 7+9=16, 1+6=7
Dude that's creepy. It's like Liberian Girl. Just when you could almost decide the whole hoax was a product of our collective imagination (summer of 2009), along comes a big, fat, in-your-face clue (Liberian Girl pics at the burial) that says it's not.
And think. If it wasn't for TS, we may not have been so hyper-aware of numbers and numerology in this hoax. Might have missed it if I wasn't programed to add every row of numbers I come across.
I even do it with street signs and receipts. It's reflexive at this point.
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The "O2 guy" happens to be ............. Michael.
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i am not sure but i kind of get the impression that the video is following the cancer patient from like a knowledge of the decease stage thru to healing. can't say for sure . any one else see it or is it just me. :?
a reference to farrah fawcett maybe??
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Wauw! I'm crying :cry: , because this is a very beautiful vid! Just wauw!
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Wow....awesome video but after watching it just makes me want Mj back even MORE!!! ;)
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The "O2 guy" happens to be ............. Michael.
many ppl dont thinks so, even outside of the hoax community...
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[attachment=1:5kxqzizm]HMH res.jpg[/attachment:5kxqzizm] The camera is moving up out of the ground and then you see the grass and light. RESURRECTION! I'm very moved by that!
Also that man in the hotel room, someone said the bed had pyramids but I don't see any. But the rose is definately glowing like it's alive, not wilting like the previous pic.
[attachment=0:5kxqzizm]HMH1.jpg[/attachment:5kxqzizm]
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Oh God...I don't think I saw a video more beautiful than this.... I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brought me tears of sadness and joy.....
Such a powerful emotion watching this video... too beautiful, really!
We need this kind of video to bring joy and happiness in the heart of people especially nowadays!
And in the begging after "We love you Michael!" when i heard the voice of the kid saying "Come back"...oh may...my breath stops for a second
Thank you so much Michael!!!
I love you!!!
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just off the top on my head..
it reminds me of Billie jean video where he goes up to the hotel room and the bed lights up..
also now to shoot me and i promise to go back to my padded cell and take my meds..
Reminds me of when someone dies you put a rose on top of the casket..but it is glowing like you said "life"
first pix you have still underground "looks like a foot or 12inch"lower then the grass..you can barley make out the "light" not all the way resurrected but mj is getting there...ty for the pix and your info as well MJonmind
huggs n faith to all
suzz
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We cannot watch the video. :(
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What about this..
The needle is just below -2 or 79.
the needle is not pointing to 80 else it would be lined up with the black dot below the 80 but it's not. So it's 79. 7+9=16, 1+6=7
Just like the street address. 1645, 1+6=7, 4+5=9, 7+9=16, 1+6=7
Dude that's creepy. It's like Liberian Girl. Just when you could almost decide the whole hoax was a product of our collective imagination (summer of 2009), along comes a big, fat, in-your-face clue (Liberian Girl pics at the burial) that says it's not.
And think. If it wasn't for TS, we may not have been so hyper-aware of numbers and numerology in this hoax. Might have missed it if I wasn't programed to add every row of numbers I come across.
I even do it with street signs and receipts. It's reflexive at this point.
In the video, there are actually 4 spots the needle moves too, or it starts off at one spot and moves 3 more times. Here is where they land.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/15p1wr5.jpg)
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so you all think this videas HAS TO have clues? if so then it means michael jackson had to do with the making of this video and that would mean he is producing the new album which i dont think so...i think $ONY is producing the new album by itself..so I DONT THINK this video has to have clues mandatoryly...do u?
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The man standing over the rose reaching for it looks like Dave Dave. I'm reaching all over the place going back to that darn Pepsi Fire again. Think about it. If Michael had to pat out the fire on his head and he reached a hand up there in the midst of the flames he would be burned. Something is nagging the bejebus out of me about this and the one handed man reference. What if Michael was putting on make up all these years and using various means of disguising a lot more than Vitiligo? This is all just me reaching but it's just nagging me big time. That Pepsi fire holds a lot of answers I think.
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so you all think this videas HAS TO have clues? if so then it means michael jackson had to do with the making of this video and that would mean he is producing the new album which i dont think so...i think $ONY is producing the new album by itself..so I DONT THINK this video has to have clues mandatoryly...do u?
I don't know what to think, partially I agree with you. I thought that Sony will make all the videos for album 'Michael' and I don't think that Michael has anything to do with this album because of these few songs which are not sung by him. But when I saw this video I thought that Michael (probably) must have something in common with this video, it's impossible for me that Michael hadn't put his ideas to this vid, some parts are just too obvious for hoaxers. It's really hard to understand for me and usually I'm not searching for clues in videos (I think most of them are just our imagination) but in this vid I have no doubts there are some very evident clues.
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the video is the most beautiful i ever see!!! thank you michael! :D
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I tried to stay away...I knew it would be a water works for me. This song is so hard for me to listen to. From the moment I learned of it, I tried to stay away. I knew the video would be worse on me. One of the last things my dad said to me was, "hold my hand"....he was in the hospital. :cry: Sorry to get so emotional......I try to just carry on, but sometimes it just stops me in my tracks. The song is very beautiful. I was OK just hearing it. But this video has done me in. I doubt I'll be able to watch it again soon.
In reading all this thread, I am again reminded of the brilliant minds here. You should all be very proud of each other! I wasn't able to pick up so much....too many tears. However, reading this it does all come back. Serenity- the green lights remind me of "green man". The 1645 (I think that's what it says)....number of days? Military time? Date in history? It seems to stand for something (address 1645)....yes the numerology is apparent.....you are amazing!
Anyways, that's all I can muster right now. The tears are back...........love to all.
Blessings
Dear Wishingstar, i'm deeply sorry this video brought back such sad feelings for you, hope you're feeling a bit better now....Sending you much LOVE and Hugs!!!
It's again a very emotional song, with so simple but wonderful lyrics and really amazing hints in the video, love it so much :P :P :P
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Wishingstar, I'm sad for your loss. Thanks for sharing how you feel.
so you all think this videas HAS TO have clues? if so then it means michael jackson had to do with the making of this video and that would mean he is producing the new album which i dont think so...i think $ONY is producing the new album by itself..so I DONT THINK this video has to have clues mandatoryly...do u?
I don't know what to think, partially I agree with you. I thought that Sony will make all the videos for album 'Michael' and I don't think that Michael has anything to do with this album because of these few songs which are not sung by him. But when I saw this video I thought that Michael (probably) must have something in common with this video, it's impossible for me that Michael hadn't put his ideas to this vid, some parts are just too obvious for hoaxers. It's really hard to understand for me and usually I'm not searching for clues in videos (I think most of them are just our imagination) but in this vid I have no doubts there are some very evident clues.
TS
5. Outthinking the Illuminati
I have never said that the whole company of Sony is in on the hoax. What I have said is that Michael planned this hoax for many years, and got a few key people in a few key positions. Some of what comes through Sony is part of MJ’s plan, but a lot of it is not.
And the statement by MJ, about outthinking Sony, is not being understood with the word “outthink” in mind. Yes, MJ did have some problems with Sony—especially TM, who is long gone. But was it really Sony that MJ was primarily talking about? Would stating in public and on video exactly who you are planning on outthinking, would that really qualify as outsmarting them—or would it be outstupiding them??
Do you really think that MJ was talking exclusively (or even primarily) about Sony, when he said that they have manipulated the “history books”? Or perhaps was MJ actually referring to outthinking the Illuminati, and using Sony as a bit of a diversion (although the Illuminati does have its fingers in every big pie, including Sony)?
The idea of the hoax being a cover up for murder has been discussed a lot, and recently it has been discussed in the context of TS possibly being part of this Sony and TMZ affiliated cover up. I have gone into the murder theory several times before, and won’t repeat all those things now. Of course the numerology is very strong against murder; but aside from that, I will make a couple of points here.
The family has already said they know who killed MJ, and “it’s all going to come out”. So if Sony, TMZ, and/or TS were involved in this murder plot—and the family has already figured it out—then continuing to promote the hoax concept would only make them look more and more guilty of trying to hide the murder. As soon as Sony, TMZ, and/or TS realized that the family was on to their tracks, they would distance themselves from the hoax theory as far and as fast as possible. Then why has that not happened???
Also, here is a very good point from jacilovesmichael: “If he was murdered, then those who murdered him [supposedly including TS] surely wouldn’t want to continue spreading the message [which is exactly what TS does] that he was murdered for.” {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=15976&start=25#p271397}.
By the way: I have already said that I do not work for TMZ. I will now say that I do not work for Sony. Do you believe it? If so, then you have your answer; and if you don’t believe this answer, then there’s really no point in asking the question.
To me, DD on LKL is all the proof I need, that Michael is moving quietly in the background--suggesting, tweeking, approving, and guiding all the main facets to this hoax. And he continues travelling where he needs to go. If LAX airport could close down on June 25, airport securities all over the world will have protocol for high security people. If Sony is behind this video, then I still believe Michael is involved in its production, although he's always said he trusts the professionals (the best) he hires to do their jobs. He is keeping a very low private profile, and I believe his trusted inside people, will defend him with almost their lives. They will speak when he says it's time, not before. So IMO, MJ's hand is in this HMH pie!
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That video is beautifuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul
(http://wwj.9.forumer.com/html/emoticons/wwj/Crying%20Smiley.gif)(http://wwj.9.forumer.com/html/emoticons/wwj/Crying%20Smiley.gif)(http://wwj.9.forumer.com/html/emoticons/wwj/Crying%20Smiley.gif)
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The "O2 guy" happens to be ............. Michael.
I agree. I believe it was always Michael.
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i loved this video it does bring some sadness hope it wont be to much longer before we can all rejoice and give michael a well deserved welcome back :D
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I read some of the interpretations.
To me, the lights and stars means Michael. Why? his name is written in the star. It is like subliminal propaganda. That´s what gets inprinted in your mind. MJ=Light=Star.
I understood the video as "Hold my hand, hold on, be strong, I am here"
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There is a handless man in the video, but it's only one hand that is missing. ;)
It's now the morning here, and I've had 7hrs sleep....After watching it again , I see the message is just to "Keep the Faith, that things will get better if we just hold his hand."
He can't do this alone. We need to be there for him. Love to all.
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"Keep the Faith, that things will get better if we just hold his hand."
But there is no hand to hooold (http://wwj.9.forumer.com/html/emoticons/wwj/Crying%20Smiley.gif)
Michaeeeeeeeel (http://wwj.9.forumer.com/html/emoticons/wwj/Crying%20Smiley.gif) Come baaaaaack
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I think the buildings look like the Roman numeral 2 (II) Thriller II maybe?[attachment=1:1z04roxj]HMH.jpg[/attachment:1z04roxj][attachment=0:1z04roxj]HMH#2.jpg[/attachment:1z04roxj]
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The "O2 guy" happens to be ............. Michael.
I agree. I believe it was always Michael.
+1 That's definitely Michael.
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2:22 in the video..
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7782/222rxa.jpg)
That's MJ AIR! :mrgreen:
Ohh and btw the video was uploaded on the 7th of December :D 7/3/3 :D
That little boy screams "COME BACK" at 0:08
And lots of MJ shadows.
I loved the video and it made me cry. It's so amazing.
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(sorry) for the mistake :()
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(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
IMO, the only thing interessing there is "he hides", cause it's these words especially, in the center of the screen... Yes, Michael hides... ;)
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Err anyone noticed the 16 + 5 thing?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/xgbby8.jpg)
Look closely. If you actually enlarge the photostill, it's 1 6 4 5[/b]. It's not a +, it's the number four.
*edit. I -just- saw that this was already said. Aye. Sorry guys lol x_x
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What are the chances that they just happened to coincidentally use a house with a (4) numeral street number that reduces to 7?
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I tried to stay away...I knew it would be a water works for me. This song is so hard for me to listen to. From the moment I learned of it, I tried to stay away. I knew the video would be worse on me. One of the last things my dad said to me was, "hold my hand"....he was in the hospital. :cry: Sorry to get so emotional......I try to just carry on, but sometimes it just stops me in my tracks. The song is very beautiful. I was OK just hearing it. But this video has done me in. I doubt I'll be able to watch it again soon.
In reading all this thread, I am again reminded of the brilliant minds here. You should all be very proud of each other! I wasn't able to pick up so much....too many tears. However, reading this it does all come back. Serenity- the green lights remind me of "green man". The 1645 (I think that's what it says)....number of days? Military time? Date in history? It seems to stand for something (address 1645)....yes the numerology is apparent.....you are amazing!
Anyways, that's all I can muster right now. The tears are back...........love to all.
Blessings
i am so sorry dear :( remember you are not alone we are all here with you. xoxoxoxoxo
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I think the buildings look like the Roman numeral 2 (II) Thriller II maybe?[attachment=1:5ikwvqjy]HMH.jpg[/attachment:5ikwvqjy][attachment=0:5ikwvqjy]HMH#2.jpg[/attachment:5ikwvqjy]
"Hands on" Michael is at work again by the looks of this video. It's awesome !!
Everyone has been busy here, great finds you guys.
The 2nd picture makes me think of an entrance, maybe to God's heavenly kingdom ???
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Check this out - at the 0:30 mark - who is in the photo above the bed? up close it's a family BUT if you look at it from afar - who does it resemble :arrow: a photo of ELVIS wearing shades...
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Check this out - at the 0:30 mark - who is in the photo above the bed???? it's a family BUT :o
if you look at it from afar - who does it resemble - a photo of ELVIS wearing shades!!! :shock:
I tried making a screen shot and uploading it, but i keep getting the error message that the size is too big - please someone HELP...
Upload it to www.tinypic.com (http://www.tinypic.com) and select "message board 640x480" from the resize drop box and you should be all good to go. I was having the same problem last night too but that fixed it.
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What do you all think? Is this MJ on the carosel at 0:51-0:52? It's almost impossible to capture it. It took me about 30-50 tries to get it this clear.... :D All credit to Lois48 on the LKL blog and/or @Tabby48 on twitter!
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2:22 in the video..
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7782/222rxa.jpg)
is MJ on his way home now :D where is this picture located by the way?
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If it's not Michael on that plane why would it be there? Japan? Dubai?
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(http://i51.tinypic.com/1zgszur.jpg)
IMO, the only thing interessing there is "he hides", cause it's these words especially, in the center of the screen... Yes, Michael hides... ;)
Of Course! you are so right! sometimes its hardest to see whats right infront of you! thank you PEPSMAN :)
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Check this out - at the 0:30 mark - who is in the photo above the bed? up close it's a family BUT if you look at it from afar - who does it resemble :arrow: a photo of ELVIS wearing shades...
you mean this shot? yes this looks a bit like elvis...
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Check this out - at the 0:30 mark - who is in the photo above the bed? up close it's a family BUT if you look at it from afar - who does it resemble :arrow: a photo of ELVIS wearing shades...
you mean this shot? yes this looks a bit like elvis...
i just can't get over how much the guy on the right is like the exact silhouette copy of dave dave
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Wishingstar, I'm sad for your loss. Thanks for sharing how you feel.
so you all think this videas HAS TO have clues? if so then it means michael jackson had to do with the making of this video and that would mean he is producing the new album which i dont think so...i think $ONY is producing the new album by itself..so I DONT THINK this video has to have clues mandatoryly...do u?
I don't know what to think, partially I agree with you. I thought that Sony will make all the videos for album 'Michael' and I don't think that Michael has anything to do with this album because of these few songs which are not sung by him. But when I saw this video I thought that Michael (probably) must have something in common with this video, it's impossible for me that Michael hadn't put his ideas to this vid, some parts are just too obvious for hoaxers. It's really hard to understand for me and usually I'm not searching for clues in videos (I think most of them are just our imagination) but in this vid I have no doubts there are some very evident clues.
TS
5. Outthinking the Illuminati
I have never said that the whole company of Sony is in on the hoax. What I have said is that Michael planned this hoax for many years, and got a few key people in a few key positions. Some of what comes through Sony is part of MJ’s plan, but a lot of it is not.
And the statement by MJ, about outthinking Sony, is not being understood with the word “outthink” in mind. Yes, MJ did have some problems with Sony—especially TM, who is long gone. But was it really Sony that MJ was primarily talking about? Would stating in public and on video exactly who you are planning on outthinking, would that really qualify as outsmarting them—or would it be outstupiding them??
Do you really think that MJ was talking exclusively (or even primarily) about Sony, when he said that they have manipulated the “history books”? Or perhaps was MJ actually referring to outthinking the Illuminati, and using Sony as a bit of a diversion (although the Illuminati does have its fingers in every big pie, including Sony)?
The idea of the hoax being a cover up for murder has been discussed a lot, and recently it has been discussed in the context of TS possibly being part of this Sony and TMZ affiliated cover up. I have gone into the murder theory several times before, and won’t repeat all those things now. Of course the numerology is very strong against murder; but aside from that, I will make a couple of points here.
The family has already said they know who killed MJ, and “it’s all going to come out”. So if Sony, TMZ, and/or TS were involved in this murder plot—and the family has already figured it out—then continuing to promote the hoax concept would only make them look more and more guilty of trying to hide the murder. As soon as Sony, TMZ, and/or TS realized that the family was on to their tracks, they would distance themselves from the hoax theory as far and as fast as possible. Then why has that not happened???
Also, here is a very good point from jacilovesmichael: “If he was murdered, then those who murdered him [supposedly including TS] surely wouldn’t want to continue spreading the message [which is exactly what TS does] that he was murdered for.” {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=15976&start=25#p271397}.
By the way: I have already said that I do not work for TMZ. I will now say that I do not work for Sony. Do you believe it? If so, then you have your answer; and if you don’t believe this answer, then there’s really no point in asking the question.
To me, DD on LKL is all the proof I need, that Michael is moving quietly in the background--suggesting, tweeking, approving, and guiding all the main facets to this hoax. And he continues travelling where he needs to go. If LAX airport could close down on June 25, airport securities all over the world will have protocol for high security people. If Sony is behind this video, then I still believe Michael is involved in its production, although he's always said he trusts the professionals (the best) he hires to do their jobs. He is keeping a very low private profile, and I believe his trusted inside people, will defend him with almost their lives. They will speak when he says it's time, not before. So IMO, MJ's hand is in this HMH pie!
thank you for this post, it's very interesting. but there are still some things that i can't understand. if sony is behind this whole "Michael" album (I believe it is so) then why Michael is involved in the production of the video? If Michael really took part in making of Hold my hand it means that certain people concern themselves with the album and the other with videos. Michael chose to his hoax only these people who he can trust and who are on the key positions, right? I can't believe that Sony would allow other people to make the video without their knowledge even when these ppl who are making videos are from Sony, too. I hope you understand what I mean.
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Err anyone noticed the 16 + 5 thing?
(http://i56.tinypic.com/xgbby8.jpg)
Look closely. If you actually enlarge the photostill, it's 1 6 4 5[/b]. It's not a +, it's the number four.
*edit. I -just- saw that this was already said. Aye. Sorry guys lol x_x
1+6+4+5=16
1+6=7 haha
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I did some work with my program on that picture above.As you see you can see the details from other things on that picture,but the faces have no details.
I made a cut from the picture too.
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That's the cut.
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All I can say is that I realy love and enjoy this song, though I'm sad and in tears
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What I notice about that bedroom still is the three inverted pyramids on the blanket.
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I just finished watching all the videos on Vision, the video for "Can you feel it" was made by Michael, imagined if you will and at the end of the video all the people looking on start holding hands...the video its self is very interesting...I get the feeling from this that Michael was definately touch by God and has always been putting across his message even before he became a Super Star. Anyway it reminded me alot of hold my hand...just thoughts :) love you all, Miss you Michael, come back soon o.k :)
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Hey guys....a couple of things,
I just wanted to thank you for the support and love you have expressed. In a previous post I had talked about some of my father's last words to me....."hold my hand". I was greatly moved by the sincere words of encouragement and love I received. I just wanted to say thank you so much!
The house number stuck with me for some reason 1645. While looking around on the site I noticed that our membership right now stands at 4615....the same numbers, different order. Odd coincidence.........? Who knows, just thought I'd point it out.
Love to all........
Blessings Always
Wishingstar
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I read on .net someone brought up a good point.
The usage of playing cards in the video in regards to the song name.
A "hand" when playing a game of cards is the cards that a player holds.
So Hold My Hand...double meaning? Come together as a fellow human being to comfort another AND keep track of my game? Or something like that.
In any case it was a fairly profound observation of a play on words that I wanted to share.
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Hey guys....a couple of things,
I just wanted to thank you for the support and love you have expressed. In a previous post I had talked about some of my father's last words to me....."hold my hand". I was greatly moved by the sincere words of encouragement and love I received. I just wanted to say thank you so much!
The house number stuck with me for some reason 1645. While looking around on the site I noticed that our membership right now stands at 4615....the same numbers, different order. Odd coincidence.........? Who knows, just thought I'd point it out.
Love to all........
Blessings Always
Wishingstar
On that note, @Wishingstar, and bringing up an ever-so slightly, touchy subject (runs for cover), Thisisalmostit has 1,645 "followers" as of a few minutes ago. Todays tweet is "the shepherd is locking her sheepfold." The tweet was tweeted 6 hrs ago. Coincidence?
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@Wishingstar -- I had to go back to find your thread on your father's passing. I am so very sorry for your loss. I hope that you were able to hold on tight to each other. Even though he has passed, he will still be holding your hand and guiding you through life's ups and downs, I am positive. Love and blessings to you.
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@Wishingstar -- I had to go back to find your thread on your father's passing. I am so very sorry for your loss. I hope that you were able to hold on tight to each other. Even though he has passed, he will still be holding your hand and guiding you through life's ups and downs, I am positive. Love and blessings to you.
Thank you so much.....you will never know how all these words touch me. I am truly grateful for them. Love and blessings to you as well.
Very interesting about Thisisalmostit..... all through this hoax numbers have played a role: ambulance, tourist van, 911 call, death time etc....now these....really stops and makes you think.
Also bec- the reference about a hand of cards..... 21 is the perfect hand in blackjack.......just a thought.
Hope you all have a beautiful day...thank you again...
Love & Blessings!
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Re the house number 1645. 16h45 is 4:45 in military time. John 4:45 -- "Then when he was come into Galilee, the Galilaeans received him, having seen all the things that he did at Jerusalem at the feast: for they also went unto the feast." (http://bible.cc/john/4-45.htm (http://bible.cc/john/4-45.htm)).
Did you see that Dodo's getting dressed for a party? Perhaps he's going to a feast?
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I did some work with my program on that picture above.As you see you can see the details from other things on that picture,but the faces have no details.
I made a cut from the picture too.
It does kind of look like Elvis on the left, (the hair) and Michael on the right (the hat/you rock my world & dangerous tuxedo)
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You are very welcome, @wishingstar.
I have a question for admin here. Are we on "lockdown" on this forum, with 1,645 members?
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The guy in the bedroom from the first I saw him has me thinking of Casket man. Notice the slight one shoulder droop MJ always has.
[attachment=0:drl3uzh4]MJ%20ca%20j[1].jpg[/attachment:drl3uzh4]
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You are very welcome, @wishingstar.
I have a question for admin here. Are we on "lockdown" on this forum, with 1,645 members?
I just noticed now it's 4616.....alexa_25 is our newest member....welcome alexa ;)
Blessings!
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You are very welcome, @wishingstar.
I have a question for admin here. Are we on "lockdown" on this forum, with 1,645 members?
I just noticed now it's 4616.....alexa_25 is our newest member....welcome alexa ;)
Blessings!
Oh, I guess that blows that theory!!! However, Alexa (Hi Alexa) was also the newest member when there were 1645 members when I started checking right after someone posted that there were 1645 members (I'm going to have to hunt for that post). The number has just changed in the last 1/2 hour at the most. This is a little suspicious. Admin, any feedback?
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The guy in the bedroom from the first I saw him has me thinking of Casket man. Notice the slight one shoulder droop MJ always has.
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=11338)
Whoa! I had not seen this video. Very interesting. Here is the link if anyone wants to watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F599ZCcwMwg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F599ZCcwMwg)
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That's the cut.
When I saw this on the video it reminded me of someone wearing a mask like in V ?? It is a very odd picture tho.... it is obvious there to make you think what is the true meaning behind it.
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What do you all think? Is this MJ on the carosel at 0:51-0:52? It's almost impossible to capture it. It took me about 30-50 tries to get it this clear.... :D All credit to Lois48 on the LKL blog and/or @Tabby48 on twitter!
It is too bad the video shots are moving so quick that it is hard to get a clear picture, but it makes you think or look twice when you see that "figure" whiz by on the carousel .... hehehe
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I wonder what the significance is of all the kids wearing Halloween costumes? It starts at 1:01
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I've just watched the video, God!It was amazing,sooo beautiful and superemotional, I can help crying, miss him so much :cry:
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To me it appears as if the old man standing beside the Death Bed could have been personated by Jack Donnor, the Grave Digger from This is it - Thriller II.
The cheeks and bone structure seem fitting, also the deep sunken eyes and the white beard.
Of course the picture is very blurry, so a certain decision is not possible. But his person would match into the repeating Thriller theme of the Hoax and the death scenery of this video.
[attachment=0:1rxrsozb]hold my hand video jack donnor.jpg[/attachment:1rxrsozb]
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ITS SAD BUT I THINK THERE ARE NO CLUES IN THIS VIDEO...i think the clues u all are talkin about are just your imagination...the clues ure talkin about are just too far to be clues, u may have noticed that u have to do alot of things to get to the clue and its not about it, if theres any clue it has to be clearer to the eyes...michael is alive but i think he doesnt have to do with anything on this video..
alwayz with l.o.v.e.
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I still would like to watch it. We cannot. Anybody has found it at another place?
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I still would like to watch it. We cannot. Anybody has found it at another place?
same here,too bad, just checking out other possibilities!
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It worked via hidemyass.com with this link
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCCnxBos10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCCnxBos10)
very beautiful, Idid not really check on clues, but this is so much Michaels message! It made me feel happy, strangewise, no tears, a really good message to mankind and the world :P
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Even if there are no clues in this video I think when the kid said at the start "comeback" is a pretty big clue.
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At 0:15 MJJ is saying "I'm alive" ?
Don't say that this is not right, I wanna enjoy my happiness :D :D
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first i thought he was saying alive too , but now i hear alright or something like that
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The guy in the bedroom from the first I saw him has me thinking of Casket man. Notice the slight one shoulder droop MJ always has.
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=11338)
Whoa! I had not seen this video. Very interesting. Here is the link if anyone wants to watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F599ZCcwMwg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F599ZCcwMwg)
Thanks for posting this, hadnt watched it in a while and had forgotten the final part which says RIP 1988 - 2009 :shock: wonder why the year 1988 was used?
1988 was the BAD TOUR :? was this some sort of clue? had we seen this :? I cannot remember :o This all seems to be about the "BAD" eara
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I'm sorry but i guess you don't want to see the fact that MJ is more than obvious represented as being in the sky.
I can' t believe you see 7's in a shirt but not Michael in the sky (in this video).
Why do you see all the minor "supposed" clues but you'r not being honest with yourselves and refuse to analyse the the most obvious part?
Please, do not judge and do not ban me, just allow me to exist as myself.
PS Haven't you noticed that the clip was perceived with sadness? I have, talking to more than one MJ fan.
That's the reason, you just don't want to accept it.
The video showed more evidence that he isn't alive than that he is.
That doesn't mean he is dead.
But for sure this video was not meant to give hope to believers.
That's all.
Let's be realistic.
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I'm sorry but i guess you don't want to see the fact that MJ is more than obvious represented as being in the sky.
I can' t believe you see 7's in a shirt but not Michael in the sky (in this video).
Why do you see all the minor "supposed" clues but you'r not being honest with yourselves and refuse to analyse the the most obvious part?
Please, do not judge and do not ban me, just allow me to exist as myself.
PS Haven't you noticed that the clip was perceived with sadness? I have, talking to more than one MJ fan.
That's the reason, you just don't want to accept it.
The video showed more evidence that he isn't alive than that he is.
That doesn't mean he is dead.
But for sure this video was not meant to give hope to believers.
That's all.
Let's be realistic.
Ah, perception is everything isn't it?
I'm not following your thinking though kalispera. What parts of the video do you perceive as being signs that MJ is dead?
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I think we all agree what a " person in the sky" means in the context of a death situation.
And sorry, i d not follow your question either.
It's just my opinion, but i guess it wa not the best place to expose it.
You say non-believers are not open minded, but pay attention cause you might do the same thing when someone has another opinion.
I've mentioned the fact that this is not the happiest videofor BELIEVERS.
And i'm sure you would have expected more evidence, but in fact you got nothing.
And i repeat.
That doesn't mean he is dead.
It's just that you analyse everything just as you would like it to be.
This is human nature, so nothing to blame you about.
I'm not laughing at you as everyone does.
But I thought it's good to keep an equilibrium here and accept other opinions as well.
Otherwise it would get dangerous for our mind's health, don't you think?
Let's not lose it.
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I think we all agree what a " person in the sky" means in the context of a death situation.
And sorry, i d not follow your question either.
It's just my opinion, but i guess it wa not the best place to expose it.
You say non-believers are not open minded, but pay attention cause you might do the same thing when someone has another opinion.
I actually wanted to explore your opinion with some supporting information that I was hoping you would share because you didn't offer any to back it up.
I think you expected to be attacked here so you ASSumed that I was bringing one ;)
Not at all, let's talk about it.
What "man in the sky" are you referring to? Curious if there is a specific image from the video you have in mind. In general, a man in the sky image would evoke thoughts of a deity to me, not death. What cultural or iconic images can you list that support a man in the sky image being metaphorical for death?
Man in the sky reminds me of the alien ancestors documentary that explores the theory that human beings have an extraterrestrial ancestor somewhere in our evolutionary history or an extraterrestrial cultural influence, a theory strengthened by iconic depictions of men in the sky images in ancient art work. Most often these sky visitors were worshiped as gods by the people who immortalized the in their art work that survived until modern times.
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0.24 broke my heart from the very first time i saw the video.
But that doesn't mean i refused to see it or refused to understand.
And what could this possibly mean, being the first video made after his passing?
You seem to be a believer.
Have you not thought once that besides your interpretation (which i love), there could be MJ represented as being in the sky, in heaven? Akon down and MJ upper in the sky faced to Heaven? And i remind you..officialy Michael Jackson is dead, this is why i think the meaning in this context was supposed to be this,more than an outside Earth figure...
This is just one ex, unfort. i am not very good in forums and it's pretty hard for me to express everything.
And again...that does not mean MJ is dead. But for sure the video is not made for believers either...as you were trying to find.
That's sad, i know.
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Honestly, no, the heaven referrence didn't occur to me. I'm an atheist so that is likely why.
But to explore that possibility, Akon is dressed all in white on a white backround, which I know can be symbolic of being in heaven (or angelic), and Akon is not dead. We also have several angel images through out the video, at least one of which repeating is a child vibrant and full of life. We also have a woman who seems to be on her death bed, attended by loved ones, but the tone of the images is one of life and love, not sadness and loss, through the tears there is sunshine and life (nature). Additionally, images of children laughing, dancing, and being happy create a prevalent and common thread throughout the course of the video. Children are metaphorical of hope and new beginnings, potential, and starting over. I would argue that the context of the video is not memorializing someone but celebrating life and love and resurrection.
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The video in resume is one word to me: FAITH
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If Michael were dead why would anybody else invite fans to join him "post-humously" in the video?
Just because it is trendy to do videoclips with fans? At least two members of this board did participate. Let's ask them what they thought about the shooting.
To me this video transports nothing but LOVE.
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Honestly, no, the heaven referrence didn't occur to me. I'm an atheist so that is likely why.
But to explore that possibility, Akon is dressed all in white on a white backround, which I know can be symbolic of being in heaven (or angelic), and Akon is not dead. We also have several angel images through out the video, at least one of which repeating is a child vibrant and full of life. We also have a woman who seems to be on her death bed, attended by loved ones, but the tone of the images is one of life and love, not sadness and loss, through the tears there is sunshine and life (nature). Additionally, images of children laughing, dancing, and being happy create a prevalent and common thread throughout the course of the video. Children are metaphorical of hope and new beginnings, potential, and starting over. I would argue that the context of the video is not memorializing someone but celebrating life and love and resurrection.
I'm a christian by tradition but i don't embrace any religion in my heart. i don't think God sent us parties we must attend to. But that's another topic and too intimate to even develop it.
On the other hand, the same "tradition" for sure affects my perception and i admit that this could be a reason for seeing the video this way. And yes, Akon seems to be in the same "atmosphere"..but he's down and not faced to upper skies.
This is a debate i want to lose.
I hope he is not in that christian Heaven.
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Honestly, no, the heaven referrence didn't occur to me. I'm an atheist so that is likely why.
But to explore that possibility, Akon is dressed all in white on a white backround, which I know can be symbolic of being in heaven (or angelic), and Akon is not dead. We also have several angel images through out the video, at least one of which repeating is a child vibrant and full of life. We also have a woman who seems to be on her death bed, attended by loved ones, but the tone of the images is one of life and love, not sadness and loss, through the tears there is sunshine and life (nature). Additionally, images of children laughing, dancing, and being happy create a prevalent and common thread throughout the course of the video. Children are metaphorical of hope and new beginnings, potential, and starting over. I would argue that the context of the video is not memorializing someone but celebrating life and love and resurrection.
I'm a christian by tradition but i don't embrace any religion in my heart. i don't think God sent us parties we must attend to. But that's another topic and too intimate to even develop it.
On the other hand, the same "tradition" for sure affects my perception and i admit that this could be a reason for seeing the video this way. And yes, Akon seems to be in the same "atmosphere"..but he's down and not faced to upper skies.
This is a debate i want to lose.
I hope he is not in that christian Heaven.
Hey Kal! I have read all of your posts in this thread and I totally respect your opinion and I know exactly where you're coming from. However, there isn't any way of knowing who exactly this video was made for. There was no dedication sentence in the beginning, middle, or end like the one in This Is It that says, "This film is dedicated to Michael Jackson's Children. Prince Michael 1, Paris, Prince Michael 11 (Blanket)". Therefore, there IS a possibility that this video was made for believers. Can I prove that? No I can't and neither can you so I don't think it's fair for you to come out and tell everyone that this video wasn't made for believers because you honestly have no way of knowing that sort of information. Am I saying it was made for believers? No. Am I saying it was made to show he is dead? No. All I'm saying is that there are some pretty weird things in that video and just because we are pointing out those weird things, doesn't mean we didn't notice the obvious things. It's just that, there's nothing really to say about those obvious things because they are TOO obvious to even wonder about or discuss. Like honestly, the only thing you can say about the obvious things in the video is "Yes, Michael's face and body were in the sky". Adn you also can't really say that Michael's face/body in the sky signifies death because there was no REST IN PEACE or something telling us specifically that Michael had died in the video. You can ASSUME it resembles Heaven and death which is perfectly fine because that is your opinion, but please remember that that leaves you doing the same thing as us. Pointing stuff out to support your opinion/view of Michael's death.
Secondly, I believe Michael is alive with all my heart. Not because I am "in denial", just because there are unanswered questions and very interesting coincidences surrounding his death. Also, some of his best friends (ie. Teddy Riley and Akon) are going around saying they believe he is alive. Now, please don't say "they're saying that for money" or anything along those lines because honestly, if they really were saying that for money, then they wouldn't be Michael's best friends in the first place. Michael is a smart man and he knows who his true friends are and who is taking or willing to take advantage of him. He is obviously best friends with Teddy and Akon for a reason and it's quite easy to see that both Akon and Teddy admire Michael as an artist, as a friend, and as a person and I really don't think they would take advantage of him like that.
Last, Kal, you have every right to post your opinion on any message board on the internet and I appreciate and respect your opinions and views surrounding Michael's death. However, please don't point fingers at we believers telling us that we tend to "twist" scenarios in our mind to, basically, convince ourselves Michael is alive because that is the complete opposite of what we do here on this message board. Here, all we do is investigate and try to figure out why things are turning out the way they are. Every time news is posted about Michael, we try to DEBUNK that news from the hoax. Not twist it around to make it fit in to the hoax somehow. It really isn't fair to accuse us of that when you haven't really been following exactly what we do here at this message board.
So, once again, I completely respect your opinions and views about Michael's death and you should feel free to post whatever you like not only on this thread, but on the whole board just as long as you don't disrespect OUR beliefs, views and opinions surrounding Michael's death. Don't say we're wrong, don't tell us what to point out and what not to point out, don't claim to know information that is rare to know, and please don't accuse us of twisting stories with our imagination to help support the hoax. We aren't the media.
God Bless and have a Merry Christmas! :D
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What a great post, IWant!
I think non believers sometimes come here because they're curious, and especially after this length of time, what could we possibly still be hanging onto?... so that makes them think maybe we are onto something, and they deep down really do want to find something they too can use to believe with, but they feel like outsiders and so then they get defensive. You know, almost like it's a guilty pleasure,being here to read, like they feel they shouldn't be here and they shouldn't be reading and looking and trying to find info, like it's morally wrong or something (non-believer culture considers what we do disrespectful), but they can't help it, their curiosity wins over and they come, and they read. Sometimes, like kali, they eventually feel compelled to post (I'm glad she did, I hope she doesn't leave).
I think they expect us to attack them because the non-believers tend to attack us so they are already on the defensive. They feel guilty being here, reading, and so expect to be punished almost.... perhaps?
But to all the lurking non-believers that identify with this post, we welcome you! We want you to be here, we want you to come read and lurk and gather information. Please, find out what it is that we do and what it is that makes us so sure! Getting to know the Michael Jackson Death Hoax is a wonderful journey and a terrific ride, I recommend it to all my friends. We also want you to post, and ask questions, and participate on the threads that interest you. You have missed quite a bit at this stage of the game but we are still picking up new believers and there is room for many more on board. If you truly want to live instead of just survive, the MJ Death Hoax is just what you are looking for!
What we don't want is for you to come here and throw your insecurities on us by telling us we are wrong. This is not some child's play and we are not idly key tapping about omg this and lol that. Largely, we are a group of professional adults who do this in our personal time because we believe Michael Jackson has a global message that he is trying to express and a movement he is trying to launch. We believe an aspect of it is a grass roots effort that starts with each one of us in our own little corners of the world. We also believe he is hosting an online, interactive ARG in which we chose to participate. Many of us have done this, seriously and full time, for the past 18 months. Our beliefs are not passive, nor are they entirely faith based. Our research is factual as well as cognitive and drawn from a variety of sources. Our minds are open but we are not in the slightest bit a blissfully ignorant bunch.
So please, kali, and all other lurkers from the "other side" (lol), please feel welcome and please do try to figure out what we are doing here.
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What a great post, IWant!
I think non believers sometimes come here because they're curious, and especially after this length of time, what could we possibly still be hanging onto?... so that makes them think maybe we are onto something, and they deep down really do want to find something they too can use to believe with, but they feel like outsiders and so then they get defensive. You know, almost like it's a guilty pleasure,being here to read, like they feel they shouldn't be here and they shouldn't be reading and looking and trying to find info, like it's morally wrong or something (non-believer culture considers what we do disrespectful), but they can't help it, their curiosity wins over and they come, and they read. Sometimes, like kali, they eventually feel compelled to post (I'm glad she did, I hope she doesn't leave).
I think they expect us to attack them because the non-believers tend to attack us so they are already on the defensive. They feel guilty being here, reading, and so expect to be punished almost.... perhaps?
But to all the lurking non-believers that identify with this post, we welcome you! We want you to be here, we want you to come read and lurk and gather information. Please, find out what it is that we do and what it is that makes us so sure! Getting to know the Michael Jackson Death Hoax is a wonderful journey and a terrific ride, I recommend it to all my friends. We also want you to post, and ask questions, and participate on the threads that interest you. You have missed quite a bit at this stage of the game but we are still picking up new believers and there is room for many more on board. If you truly want to live instead of just survive, the MJ Death Hoax is just what you are looking for!
What we don't want is for you to come here and throw your insecurities on us by telling us we are wrong. This is not some child's play and we are not idly key tapping about omg this and lol that. Largely, we are a group of professional adults who do this in our personal time because we believe Michael Jackson has a global message that he is trying to express and a movement he is trying to launch. We believe an aspect of it is a grass roots effort that starts with each one of us in our own little corners of the world. We also believe he is hosting an online, interactive ARG in which we chose to participate. Many of us have done this, seriously and full time, for the past 18 months. Our beliefs are not passive, nor are they entirely faith based. Our research is factual as well as cognitive and drawn from a variety of sources. Our minds are open but we are not in the slightest bit a blissfully ignorant bunch.
So please, kali, and all other lurkers from the "other side" (lol), please feel welcome and please do try to figure out what we are doing here.
Thank you! You typed up an excellent post yourself! :D
I think you're right, by the way. A lot of non-believers almost feel like they HAVE to post something negative because they are so defensive and afraid of being attacked by us because they don't believe in the hoax. I also agree with what you said about them being curious. A lot of people on this board who are believers say "Why are you here if you don't believe?" And I think you just answered their question. They're curious about what we are still finding and discussing because it's been over a year, almost two years, since Michael died. Therefore, they must think that we actually have some interesting information so they decide to come for a visit and check it out.
And, yes this board is mostly filled with adults, however, I think the BeLIEvers in general are all ages! I mean, I'm 16 and I've loved Michael since I was 4 and I BeLIEve. My Grandad is 82 and he BeLIEves, and my friend's little sister is 10 and she BeLIEves as well! I think it's wonderful that this hoax has attracted to many people from different age groups. I mean, come on, it's Michael! It's fun! It's a great ride! And like you, Bec, I encourage it to all my friends too because not only is it very interesting, there seriously is never a dull moment with this incredible story. There's always something new every day and it's just a riot reading people's opinions and seeing what everyone can come up with to try to solve the puzzle. I absolutely love it!
So yeah, I think you basically covered everything in your post as well, Bec! We don't want to fight with any of the non-believers, in fact, we encourage them to come by and maybe even join our group! The more the merrier, the more facts, and the more fun! :-)
God Bless you, Bec! And I hope you have a Merry Christmas/Hanukkah/Quanza as well! :D
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Bec and IWantYouBack, I loved reading your posts. Thank you, and I agree. :)
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Bec and IWantYouBack, I loved reading your posts. Thank you, and I agree. :)
Thanks for reading them Andrea! I'm glad you enjoyed it! God Bless. :D
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I don't think it's impossible that there are clues in HMH. Some, like the house number adding up to 7 is interesting. However, I don't think we see new images of MJ in the video. Because if Michael is in hiding and faked his death to escape a murder, appearing in his own new video would have tremendous risks for him.
For example:
(http://oi52.tinypic.com/2v01fkl.jpg)
I don't think we see Michael in this shot at all. It's put next together on YT in several videos, but if you just look at the two images, the left one does not resemble Michael at all. The person has much bigger and also higher (curly?) hair. And the chin looks more like Jay Leno's than Mike's. And what you see on his back is not a tail I think, it's more like a hoody.
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I don't think it's impossible that there are clues in HMH. Some, like the house number adding up to 7 is interesting. However, I don't think we see new images of MJ in the video. Because if Michael is in hiding and faked his death to escape a murder, appearing in his own new video would have tremendous risks for him.
For example:
(http://oi52.tinypic.com/2v01fkl.jpg)
I don't think we see Michael in this shot at all. It's put next together on YT in several videos, but if you just look at the two images, the left one does not resemble Michael at all. The person has much bigger and also higher (curly?) hair. And the chin looks more like Jay Leno's than Mike's. And what you see on his back is not a tail I think, it's more like a hoody.
I agree that the profile doesn't seem to be Michael's. It does resemble Jay Leno, as you said, as well as... Thome Thome (IMO). The hair looks like a wig to me - it somehow brings Mozart to mind. :D :?
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I don't think it's impossible that there are clues in HMH. Some, like the house number adding up to 7 is interesting. However, I don't think we see new images of MJ in the video. Because if Michael is in hiding and faked his death to escape a murder, appearing in his own new video would have tremendous risks for him.
For example:
(http://oi52.tinypic.com/2v01fkl.jpg)
I don't think we see Michael in this shot at all. It's put next together on YT in several videos, but if you just look at the two images, the left one does not resemble Michael at all. The person has much bigger and also higher (curly?) hair. And the chin looks more like Jay Leno's than Mike's. And what you see on his back is not a tail I think, it's more like a hoody.
Say, not to be silly, and not for nothing do I say this, but the silhouette on the left looks MORE like former President Bill Clinton :o than Jay Leno (!) perhaps just because he's been on my mind ( ;) )...but am I lying???? :) Look hard. :lol:
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I think its Elvis! lol No joke
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What at thread. As I am fairly new, I am still catching up on info- it seems daily. I need to go back and re-watch the video now in the light of what I have read.
However, reading this thread, several things stood out:
+The lyrics from Michael McKeller: This song is shrouded in lots of secrecy seems like. It was mentioned in the 93 Deposition (I think it's been termed the Mexico Deposition) that has been included on the Mega Box Collection (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... collection (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=michael+jackson%2C+mega+box+collection)). In a very long segment Michael testifies about songs he has written and if they have been released or not. Michael is on pain meds after oral surgery, but he soldiers through the endless seeming string of song titles. WHen Michael McKellar is mentioned he seems really stunned and asks- "How do you know about that one?" (or something to that effect). The reaction REALLY stood out. When I saw the lyrics in this thread I was very surprised. Even more so, as they were included in the video.
+The image of the ONE HAND (in several instances): After the preliminaries last week- this stood out as there was so much talk about one handed CPR. I also started reading the thread on religious symbolism today and what I read there, certainly fits in (viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14516 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=14516)). Again, keep in mind- it doesn't necessarily matter if we believe it- but it makes sense that Michael would and that he would use those clues.
+The rose on the bed: It reminded me of Billy Jean (remember the disappearance from the bed); as well as the "ILLUSION" that started on 6/25 (acc to Kenny O)- Michael disappearing from a bed. In both Dirty Diana and in "real life" - as Michael "died" in his bed. Or did he? Was he like the rose? Full of life?
I will rewatch, as I said, but I am pretty sure those are clues to us- or at least things to consider and keep in mind.
There are the obvious references to stars and HOliwood- which I have to think about more (it's been a long day).
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I forgot:
@truthprevails: When you said, Mozart, I jumped to attention. From the beginning, I have pointed out the parallels of Michael's "death" to Mozart. First, we have the obvious childhood protegee, genius parallel. Both are said to have suffered from insomnia. Both died before their time from mysterious circumstances. Both were rumored to have been involved with Freemasonry. Growing up in Austria, my father (who was is a Mozart fan)- always told me stories about Mozart having "gotten in with the Freemasons" at some point, but having learned about their more nefarious motives and having planned to explose their philosphy through his music- something for which he paid with being left pennyless, rumored to have been an alcoholic (an addict, therefore), and dead at a young age.
If we assume that Michael was also drawn into the NWO word, and might even have been attracted to the pretend goals of brotherhood and unity (which is spouted among lower level members to attract them)- but later got wise to the overall control that permeates the media, and that he fought against them, only to have found out that they tried over and over to destroy him, until he had every reason to fear for his life- and if we further assume that part of the hoax is to lay open that humongeous conspiracy, the paralles to Mozart is really interesting and maybe noteworthy.
Of course, the Bill Clinton similarity also captured my interest, esp, after the saxophone discussion in the thread about Behind the Mask and the Sax intro.
I realize I am just throwing things out there- but I know so many of you are so wonderful about putting details and information together- so I thought I'd bring it up.
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Off topic - a great cover of the song with some modified lyrics and a different point of view
by J Rice / Kurt Schneider:
[youtube:347oar4d]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgKsRyTgeiY[/youtube:347oar4d]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgKsRyTgeiY
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there is a lot of footage of MJ from the dangerous tour, in the outfit that we now know is a fencing shirt, thanks to TMZ doing a story about the Juliens auction
http://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2010/icons-and-idols/icatalog.html
Dangerous era is a time where MJ really rebeled,
which brings me to the upside down devil horns pose, which is flashed at least three times...
I think that is MJ's way of telling us that he is behind this and that they didnt kill him,
there were always pics of michael from the bad era and that is when many believe mj broke free,
he was telling us he was outhinking them a long time ago,
this video is a gift so that we keep the faith
Both the fencing shirt and the lyrics from Michael McKeller were in the Juliens Auction- and the Dangerous tour ties in as well. In "Michael" the Dangerous tour features again in the live clips in the intro for Behind the Mask.
So, bear with me: I just watched V for Vedetta last night and then The Dangerous Bucharest concert this morning. What stood out was the fencing shirt Michael wore for about the first half of the concert. In V- there is a fencing scene where V talks about The Count of Monte Christo - another story with a strong vengeance theme. In the end, Evey again refers to Edmond Dantes (the main character taking his vengeance)- when she says "He [V] was Edmond Dantès, and he was my father, and my mother, my brother, my friend. He was you, and me. He was all of us..”
Hence, I think the fencing shirt hints at the vengeance motive strongly, and the lyrics with “he hides” in the center also tie in. Also, how often do we see Michael “hiding” during the Bucharest concert (we have the Thriller casket disappearance, the disappearance under the covered chair, and Rocket Man taking off).
I was still wondering about the Piano in Hold My Hand as well- and when I watched V last night, the huge grand piano in V’s house really stood out to me. But that could just be me (however, how many times have we been told that “there are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidences.”- V)?
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ignisaeternus, you should definately post more often, you have very good contributions and ideas! :idea: :idea: :)
The pianos also remind me of his pepsi ad singing, "I'll be there."
[youtube:1zi1wq2i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvNNE4i-zW4&feature=fvst[/youtube:1zi1wq2i]
I'll Be There lyrics
You and I must make a pact
We must bring salvation back
Where there is love, I'll be there(I'll be there)
I'll reach out my hand to you
I'll have faith in all you do
Just call my name and I'll be there
(I'll be there)
And oh, I'll be there to comfort you
Build my world of dreams around you
I'm so glad that I found you
I'll be there with a love that's strong
I'll be your strength, I'll keep holding on
(Holding on, holding on, holding on)
Yes I will, yes I will
Let me fill your heart with joy and laughter
Togetherness, well that's all I'm after
Whenever you need me, I'll be there
(I'll be there)
I'll be there to protect you
(Yeah baby)
With an unselfish love I respect you
Just call my name and I'll be there
(I'll be there)
And oh, I'll be there to comfort you
(I'll be there)
Build my world of dreams around you
I'm so glad that I found you
I'll be there with a love that's strong
(I'll be there)
I'll be your strength, I'll keep holding on
(Holding on, holding on, holding on)
Yes I will, yes I will
If you should ever find someone new
I know he'd better be good to you
'Cause if he doesn't, I'll be there
(I'll be there)
Don't you know, baby, yeah yeah
I'll be there, I'll be there, just call my name, I'll be there
(I'll be there)
Just look over your shoulders, honey, ooh
I'll be there, I'll be there, whenever you need me, I'll be there
(I'll be there)
Don't you know, baby, yeah yeah
I'll be there, I'll be there, just call my name, I'll be there
(I'll be there)
I'll be there, I'll be there
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@MJonmind- You are absolutely right about the Pepsi add.
Thanks for your kind words- I had to laugh though, cause my hubby and kids think I am posting WAY too much. But hey, I just found you guys in December, so I have lots to catch up on! ;)
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Off topic - a great cover of the song with some modified lyrics and a different point of view
by J Rice / Kurt Schneider:
[youtube:1cdow4vz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgKsRyTgeiY[/youtube:1cdow4vz]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgKsRyTgeiY
Grace - I agree, this person did a great job with the song. I really enjoyed this version. Thanks for sharing.
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The guy in the bedroom from the first I saw him has me thinking of Casket man. Notice the slight one shoulder droop MJ always has.
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=11338)
Whoa! I had not seen this video. Very interesting. Here is the link if anyone wants to watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F599ZCcwMwg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F599ZCcwMwg)
Okay - this is bizarre. Sorry, but who in their right mind would make a commercial like this...it has to be a joke, right? Please tell me it's a joke...
Anyway, did the http://www.casketamerica.com (http://www.casketamerica.com) and I put a search in for Michael Jackson - this is what comes up.
http://www.casketamerica.com (http://www.casketamerica.com)
Welcome to casketamerica.com
Sponsored listings for Michael Jackson Casket:
* Wholesale Caskets 80% off
Free Ground Shipping. 100% Casket Guarantee! 888-817-3001
www.24hourcaskets.com (http://www.24hourcaskets.com)
* New Michael Jackson Book
New official Michael Jackson book by Katherine Jackson. Order today!
www.JacksonSecretVault.com (http://www.JacksonSecretVault.com)
* This Is It
A Michael Jackson and Vincent Price website. Signed Thriller
www.vincentpricenut2.com (http://www.vincentpricenut2.com)
* Casket
Looking For Casket? Find It Nearby With Local.com!
Local.com
* Michael Jackson Jewelry
MJ Silver Jewelry Collection. 100% Quality. Low S&H.
www.shopfashionstore.com (http://www.shopfashionstore.com)
Related Links
* Michael Jackson
* Michael Jackson Video
* Michael Jackson Song
* Celebrity
* Entertainment News
* Celebrity Poster
* Celebrity Gossip
* Celebrity Picture
* Celebrity Hair Style
* Celebrity Photo
* Celebrity Address
* Celebrity Wallpaper
* Celebrity Autograph
* Celebrity Home
* Music Search
I think someone is having a great laugh *Michael*.
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* This Is It
A Michael Jackson and Vincent Price website. Signed Thriller
http://www.vincentpricenut2.com (http://www.vincentpricenut2.com)
Why would there be a "signed thriller" on a Vincent Price homepage?
Well, I dug a little bit into Mr. Price.
Important Note: Any clickable Link On vincentpricenut2 Is A Potential Winner.
[...]
The Vincent Price Estate is rebranding the late actor's persona, with regards to an entirely new generation of fans, as well as life-long Price enthusiasts. [...]
What's so special?
http://www.vincentpricenut2.com/whats_so_special
Vincent Price as "The Abominable Dr. Phibes".
A movie from 1971.
A doctor, scientist, organist, and biblical scholar, Dr. Anton Phibes, seeks revenge on the nine doctors he considers responsible for his wife's death.
Revenge Is The Best Medicine.
HE CAME BACK FROM THE DEAD FOR REVENGE with Nine Diabolical Curses ... BEES ... BATS ... BEASTS ... BLOOD ... FROGS ... HAIL ... LOCUSTS ... DARKNESS ... DEATH! THE ABOMINABLE DR. PHIBES ... the most terrifying film you will ever see!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066740/
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A commercial just came on for a show called ...Millionaire...something I missed...
BUT, the song playing during the commercial was Michael's "HOLD MY HAND"!!!
YES keep Michael in mind. :)) It's a show about millionaires giving and helping poor people. Sound familiar?
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A commercial just came on for a show called ...Millionaire...something I missed...
BUT, the song playing during the commercial was Michael's "HOLD MY HAND"!!!
YES keep Michael in mind. :)) It's a show about millionaires giving and helping poor people. Sound familiar?
The show is called Secret Millionaire. It is such an inspiring show....makes me cry every time! I can't wait for the new season. It will air on ABC on March 6th. Here is a video of the promo. Hold My Hand starts around 1:10 or 1:20 mark. (going from memory so I'm not sure exact start)
[youtube:gq2pklba]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgjgdBmHm80[/youtube:gq2pklba]
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That is so cool about the secret millionaire show coming up, and giving a good association with Michael's music. Subconscious influence. The announcer sounds exactly like the one for the Cirque du Soleil and Michael Jackson Immortal Tour. I found this description but it's older, so wonder if these are already filmed, and airing now.
The Fox Network is debuting a new reality show unlike any other. “Secret Millionaire” is a series that doesn’t entertain with the normal high dose of competive personalities or petty catfights all for the love of some cold cash! Contestants of the “Secret Millionaire” are actually trying to give their money away!
Not something you see everyday! The millionaire participants will go undercover living in a poverty stricken area for one week. Leading many to believe they are also financially strapped the contestants will then see how it really feels to lead a less than luxurious lifestyle. After the week is up the secret millionaire will then give $100,000 or more to their less than fortunate acquaintance.
“Secret Millionaire” is set to air in 2009!
http://tv.rightcelebrity.com/?p=203 (http://tv.rightcelebrity.com/?p=203)
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A commercial just came on for a show called ...Millionaire...something I missed...
BUT, the song playing during the commercial was Michael's "HOLD MY HAND"!!!
YES keep Michael in mind. :)) It's a show about millionaires giving and helping poor people. Sound familiar?
The show is called Secret Millionaire. It is such an inspiring show....makes me cry every time! I can't wait for the new season. It will air on ABC on March 6th. Here is a video of the promo. Hold My Hand starts around 1:10 or 1:20 mark. (going from memory so I'm not sure exact start)
[youtube:1rbtiz4y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgjgdBmHm80[/youtube:1rbtiz4y]
thats beautiful!
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Okay...so they have to get permissions to use Michael's song...let's just run with this...
Are there any credits we should be watching for?? Any of those millionaires look familar?...
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I want to share with you what I found about "Master 22" picture.
"The 22 is the most powerful of all numbers. It is often called the Master Builder[/b]. The 22 can turn the most ambitious of dreams into reality[/b]. It is potentially the most successful of all numbers. It has many of the inspirational insights of the 11, combined with the practicality and methodical nature of the 4. It is unlimited, yet disciplined. It sees the archetype, and brings it down to earth in some material form. It has big ideas, great plans, idealism, leadership, and enormous self-confidence. If not practical, the 22s waste their potential. Like the 11, the 22 can easily shrink from its own ambition, causing difficult interior pressures. Both the 11 and the 22 experience the pressure-cooker effect very strongly, particularly at an early age. It must work toward the realization of goals that are larger than personal ambition. The 22 serves the world in a practical way."[/i]
:arrow: http://www.decoz.com/Masternumbers.htm (http://www.decoz.com/Masternumbers.htm)
And:
"Numerology lifepath 22 is a master builder[/b]. The number 22 is very powerful. Anyone possessing this lifepath number has a date with destiny[/b].
First are your Character Traits
* Extremely capable of reaching the very top of his/her chosen profession[/b]
* An inborn understanding of material problems and their forces
* Very perceptive in most things
* The inner fire of a 22 is visible to all he/she comes into contact with
* The nervous tension felt by a 22 cannot often be hidden
The Lesson
The lifepath 22 must learn to live up to his/her potential being although aware and highly perceptive as he/she is will find self often frustrated at not being able to put the puzzle together when confronted with a problem. Learning to harness the great power to accomplish great things will not come to the 22 in his/her early years.
After maturity will come better understanding and he/she will be a wonder to see in all his/her endeavors. Learning how to harness this great potential and use it constructively for the betterment of those around him/her or the world in general will be the lesson for this lifetime."[/i]
:arrow: http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm (http://www.starlightnumerology.com/lp-22.htm)
This is really interesting because it's very close to the Death Hoax situation. :)
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Just a few things.
@ Bec, the "hold my hand" (of cards) IS a profound double meaning catch!
MJ does this all the time! I found this trick in Keep Your Head Up,, and Wishingstar found it in TDRCAU
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... be#p297966 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17344&p=297966&hilit=TDRCAU+let+it+be#p297966) ).
But anyway, the "HMH" could mean a third thing, even, within the card game analogy. Either to watch after a partners' cards, or even play through FOR him(not certain if this is allowed--I never played a serious card game, ever :P )while he takes a break, or to "hold up", i.e., suspend his turn while he is "MIA". Not sure if that's allowed (outside the playground) either. :oops: :lol:
One way, WE carry on as if he's still in the game, playing his hand by proxy (YOU KNOW HE IS!). The other way, we go a round or two without him, his "hand" idle, anticipating his return...I guess he wants to be mysterious (Is he or Isn't he?) as usual.
Another thing, (on page 5 on this thread), there is a screen shot of the bed with a man on one side and a lady on the other. Someone mentioned twice that it looks like upside down pyramids--the pattern on the bedspread--sorry, I couldn't find it either time again, to give you mention.
I don't see pyramids, though. From the first time I saw this video, I saw a "type" of the original art, a male and female arm clasping hands of each other. It is another imprint on your mind of the "Holding My Hand" theme. This time it appears to be two or maybe three more identityless pairs of held hands (possibly representing billions!), stretched across the bed, to catch hands with the two people STANDING. Kind of in a "unite and wait on" (or pray) stance, for the ill and hurting, and dying, except there is no one in the bed, because...MJ appears to be all gone...
:o :D However---remember what MJ said on Invincible?
Words of urgent love, :D for us:
"Whatever, whatever, ;) whatever; whatever happens, don't you let go of my hand! Don't you do it!"
:shock: Sheeesh, I wouldn't dream of it! ;)
This video has LIVING Michael Jackson all over it. He didn't just edit it. His passion is all over this! Reach out and hold on; Heal the World, help someone feel real, here, instead of so dang invisible every day... I betcha he was on site as it was filmed, directing, incognito, of course 8-) :lol: Where else :roll: :?:
Finally, no one answered my question,
(in a related thread's post about HMH, this exact same subject... :? http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... 84#p291132 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16384#p291132))
about the doll baby MJ is holding in the video @ about 2:21, so let me just throw this, jmho, out (and give me time to duck :shock: :!: ) Does anyone think this child is NOT LMP? If not, who is this?
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[youtube:3ffox20z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV9FA93_5P8[/youtube:3ffox20z]
It's the acapella version... I have just not words to describe it. So wonderfull !
Also, I'm not native english, does he say "Online" at the beginning ?
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[youtube:24kdcbve]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV9FA93_5P8[/youtube:24kdcbve]
It's the acapella version... I have just not words to describe it. So wonderfull !
Also, I'm not native english, does he say "Online" at the beginning ?
I think it's "Alright" ;)
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[youtube:24pndjq4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV9FA93_5P8[/youtube:24pndjq4]
It's the acapella version... I have just not words to describe it. So wonderfull !
Also, I'm not native english, does he say "Online" at the beginning ?
I think it's "Alright" ;)
Hum, ok. ;)
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Sorry, maybe it has been already observed.
This image of the video remind me a cinema, because I have in my mind a tv-spot of Anicagis on Italian tv, that makes spots about the news on movies in cinema.
Many small horizzontal windows in the inferior part in the first picture, remind me many frames in a film,wich are vertical in the second one.
Maybe it’s a coincidence.