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Title: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: francina_84 on December 10, 2010, 08:48:51 AM
I found this photo on a facebook group:

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs586.ash2/150867_173455559344211_149072025115898_438578_4081744_n.jpg)

[Click here for the full view: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak- ... 1744_n.jpg (http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs586.ash2/150867_173455559344211_149072025115898_438578_4081744_n.jpg) ]

and I confirm the differences, I've just bought my copy..

The face that seemed to be MLK has been removed, and Michael Captain EO has a different face (and it seems a photo taken during bad tour rehearsals), and arms lower than in the original photo (and the first cover).

What do you think about that?
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: ForstAMoon on December 10, 2010, 09:16:20 AM
I see that MJ silhouette differs depending if this is regular CD or Eco Style CD (picture on the left).

But still the cover was supposed to be an art, so do not really understand why two different silhouettes depending on the type  of pack?
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: francina_84 on December 10, 2010, 09:25:22 AM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
I see that MJ silhouette differs depending if this is regular CD or Eco Style CD (picture on the left).
Really? I didn't know this.. I think here in Italy there's only the regular one..

Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
But still the cover was supposed to be an art, so do not really understand why two different silhouettes depending on the type  of pack?
This is what I was thinking too.. This was supposed to be an oil painting. What else has been changed from the original painting (if a paint does exist)?
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: ForstAMoon on December 10, 2010, 09:31:03 AM
Quote from: "francina_84"
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
I see that MJ silhouette differs depending if this is regular CD or Eco Style CD (picture on the left).
Really? I didn't know this.. I think here in Italy there's only the regular one..

Eco Style cover - as from Polish e-shop picture link

(http://merlin.pl/Michael-Eco-Style_Michael-Jackson,images_big,28,88697830282.jpg)
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: francina_84 on December 10, 2010, 09:39:12 AM
Mine is the regular one, but has the same picture..
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: pepper on December 10, 2010, 03:38:54 PM
Hmmm....

On the http://www.sonymusicdigital.com/michael ... s/5709473/ (http://www.sonymusicdigital.com/michael-jackson/pages/5709473/) site, you can buy the CD and tshirt combo with this image
(http://www.youheardthatnew.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/MichaelJacksonx-large.jpg)
http://www.youheardthatnew.com/wp-conte ... -large.jpg (http://www.youheardthatnew.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/MichaelJacksonx-large.jpg)

Or just buy the CD with this image on the cover
(http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commissions/middle/michael-mid.jpg)
http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commi ... el-mid.jpg (http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commissions/middle/michael-mid.jpg)

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On the website belonging to the artist that painted the album cover  http://www.kadirnelson.com/Advertising.html (http://www.kadirnelson.com/Advertising.html)
you can find both images on the same page, both "commissioned" by SONY

Arms Up
(http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commissions/michael-thmb.jpg)
http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commi ... l-thmb.jpg (http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commissions/michael-thmb.jpg)

Arms Down
(http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commissions/middle/michael-mid.jpg)
http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commi ... el-mid.jpg (http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commissions/middle/michael-mid.jpg)

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The image used in Sony Music UK TV Ad

You're gonna have to pause it at the right time, but arms are up at :28, arms down at :28-:29  ;)

[youtube:3tzp70vs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVSLGsuP5E&feature=channel[/youtube:3tzp70vs]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVSLGsu ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVSLGsuP5E&feature=channel)

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The giant, guinness-world-record-breaking poster? Arms down.

(http://www.mjnewsalerts.com/home/feed/data/upimages/IMG_2928_Low_Res2.jpg)
http://www.mjnewsalerts.com/home/feed/d ... w_Res2.jpg (http://www.mjnewsalerts.com/home/feed/data/upimages/IMG_2928_Low_Res2.jpg)
http://www.mjnewsalerts.com/news/index. ... 1291923974 (http://www.mjnewsalerts.com/news/index.php?&subaction=showfull&id=1291923974)

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And this...

(http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/j/michael_cover_refs_110610/eo_michael_cover.jpg)
http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/j/michae ... _cover.jpg (http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/j/michael_cover_refs_110610/eo_michael_cover.jpg)

(left) a scene from Michael Jackson's 3-D film "Captain EO," (right) a scene from Michael Jackson's Michael cover

 Photo by Lucasfilm/ Epic

http://www.mtv.com/photos/michael-jacks ... hoto.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/photos/michael-jacksons-michael-cover-decoded/1651606/5397064/photo.jhtml)
 :)
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: anewfan on December 11, 2010, 09:40:18 PM
Check out this video....it has more women on the painting. You can see Madonna and Oprah and many other women as well on the painting in the following video compared to the first pics leaked. I can't embed it. Sorry.

http://cnettv.cnet.com/art-work-michael-jackson-new-album/9742-1_53-50097223.html
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: anewfan on December 11, 2010, 09:47:58 PM
Here are screen shots of the video.[attachment=1:2oo96vqp]women.jpg[/attachment:2oo96vqp][attachment=0:2oo96vqp]women#2.jpg[/attachment:2oo96vqp]
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: bec on December 11, 2010, 10:09:54 PM
One is the Hollywood "friends" and the other is the real friends.

Arms up is victory, strength, steadfast. Arms down is defeated, surrendering, beaten. Captain Eo came to save the planet and send out a major love. Not So Fast! says Evil $ony...

That's pretty clear. The new version has the $ony corporate "touch" to it. Some Hollywood Friends added (who weren't real friends at all and some who stabbed him in the back) and a subliminal message illustrating their at long last ultimate control over Michael Jackson (ooo that Evil $ony! lol). Let's get rid of the MLK Jr too, too much minority empowerment there.

I think MJ wants us to hate Evil $ony.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on December 11, 2010, 10:11:10 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Let's get rid of the MLK Jr too, too much minority empowerment there.

Exactly what I was thinking about the MLK Jr. removal.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: pepper on December 13, 2010, 12:54:52 PM
Quote from: "francina_84"
This is what I was thinking too.. This was supposed to be an oil painting. What else has been changed from the original painting (if a paint does exist)?

This seems to be a photo of the painting in a frame - this article says it is displayed at the recording studio of Marvin Gaye in Hollywood - Marvin's Room Recording Studio

Arms are raised up...

(http://202.58.40.60/elements/img/article/638x359/skynews_550580.jpg)
http://202.58.40.60/elements/img/articl ... 550580.jpg (http://202.58.40.60/elements/img/article/638x359/skynews_550580.jpg)

Portrait of Jackson's life
Updated: 09:53, Saturday December 11, 2010

Michael Jackson's over-the-top lifestyle and character has been emulated in a new painting of the late pop star.

Californian artist Kadir Nelson has created a portrait honours his life and attitude which will grace the cover of Jackson's upcoming album, 'Michael.'

The painting shows a chronological life of Jackson, from his beginnings with the Jackson Five to his never-achieved 'This Is It' concert series.

The oil on canvas artwork currently resides in the Marvin Gaye recording studio in Hollywood - which is where Jackson saw a similar piece dedicated to Gaye in 2001, and wanted one of his own.

'I've been drawing Michael since I was eight years old. When 'Thriller' came out, I was inspired to draw him and I drew him all the way through college. So you can imagine how thrilled I was when I got a phone call from Michael Jackson saying that he wanted me to paint a picture of him,' said Nelson.

Before the painting could be started, Jackson's legal scandals forced the painting to be delayed.

Yet after his death in 2009, Nelson was contacted by Jackson estate co-executor John McClain, who then commissioned the work.

'He's being crowned by two cupids and has his hand placed over his heart because Michael put his heart into everything that he did. And I felt that it was kind of an endearing look that he was giving his fans; he's giving his heart to his fans,' said Nelson.

The painting includes up to 50 images of the pop King - the age in which he reached before his death.

Also included are images from his life; from Bubbles the chimp, his three children, and various people who had influenced his life.

'Michael was close to a number of people throughout his life, particularly women, so I felt that it would be important to show some of the women that he had close relationships with like his mother, like his sister, Janet, Madonna and Princess Diana, Elizabeth Taylor.'

The painting will remain at the Marvin Gaye studios, with plans in the works for a public display.

Fans can grab a look at a copy of the painting on the the album cover when 'Michael' drops on December 14.
http://www.skynews.com.au/showbiz/artic ... 50580&vId= (http://www.skynews.com.au/showbiz/article.aspx?id=550580&vId=)
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: sunrise on December 13, 2010, 01:08:54 PM
Quote from: "anewfan"
Here are screen shots of the video.[attachment=1:fhvfvtiz]women.jpg[/attachment:fhvfvtiz][attachment=0:fhvfvtiz]women#2.jpg[/attachment:fhvfvtiz]


inside the album booklet is the full picture and there is no Liz Taylor..  :?:
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: Elsa on December 13, 2010, 06:50:30 PM
Quote from: "anewfan"
Check out this video....it has more women on the painting. You can see Madonna and Oprah and many other women as well on the painting in the following video compared to the first pics leaked. I can't embed it. Sorry.

http://cnettv.cnet.com/art-work-michael-jackson-new-album/9742-1_53-50097223.html

Quote from: "pepper"

Arms Up
(http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commissions/michael-thmb.jpg)
http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commi ... l-thmb.jpg (http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commissions/michael-thmb.jpg)

Arms Down
(http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commissions/middle/michael-mid.jpg)
http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commi ... el-mid.jpg (http://www.kadirnelson.com/images/commissions/middle/michael-mid.jpg)

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The image used in Sony Music UK TV Ad

You're gonna have to pause it at the right time, but arms are up at :28, arms down at :28-:29  ;)

[youtube:1hrihg4t]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVSLGsuP5E&feature=channel[/youtube:1hrihg4t]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVSLGsu ... re=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wVSLGsuP5E&feature=channel)
 
     

Thanks anewfan for the link to the interview with the artist, Kadir Nelson and thanks pepper for all the links and information.  In the interview, the artwork is the Captain EO 'arms up' version.  I now have the album - with the 'arms down' cover.  There are supposed to be 50 images of Michael for each year of his life - I can only count 30 something - still looking.  

For me this thread and the information in the thread pepper started about who commissioned the art work, viewtopic.php?f=120&t=16482 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=16482), confirms that the artwork, the trailer and therefore the album is not a random patchwork thrown together by the axis of evil.

In the trailer I see a focus on Captain EO, the camera, the reel, Smooth Criminal, the mirror, repeated and multiple images - usually in sets of two or three - the animals, the roller coaster, the rising bubbles, the moon and the crowning.  The release of the songs wasn’t random either.  Someone’s telling us a story.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: MJhasSpoken on December 14, 2010, 02:12:40 AM
Why are there two different versions?
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: anewfan on December 14, 2010, 06:42:54 PM
Dangerous_Inc. posted this enlarged picture of the album cover. You can see a lot of details you couldn't before. I noticed that there are 10 kids around Katherine and Joe. I know that Marlon's twin was stillborn, so does anyone know who the 10th child is? You will have to scroll over and down to see all of them.

[attachment=0]Jacksons.jpg[/attachment

Here is a link to the picture to see it enlarged.
http://twitpic.com/3frifj
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: techdiva on December 14, 2010, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: "anewfan"
Dangerous_Inc. posted this enlarged picture of the album cover. You can see a lot of details you couldn't before. I noticed that there are 10 kids around Katherine and Joe. I know that Marlon's twin was stillborn, so does anyone know who the 10th child is? You will have to scroll over and down to see all of them.

[attachment=0]Jacksons.jpg[/attachment

Here is a link to the picture to see it enlarged.
http://twitpic.com/3frifj
Are they trying to tell us, there were  10 Jackson kids instead of 9? Is the truth revealing? This has been on my mind for a very long time. Latoya has slipped up and said she had 6 brothers now 5. Michael said his father had 10 children and he grew up in a home of 10 children. I've been wondering about this before June 25th. After things have started to reveal. Rebbie said there's more surprises.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: anewfan on December 14, 2010, 10:17:53 PM
Quote from: "techdiva"
Quote from: "anewfan"
Dangerous_Inc. posted this enlarged picture of the album cover. You can see a lot of details you couldn't before. I noticed that there are 10 kids around Katherine and Joe. I know that Marlon's twin was stillborn, so does anyone know who the 10th child is? You will have to scroll over and down to see all of them.

[attachment=0]Jacksons.jpg[/attachment

Here is a link to the picture to see it enlarged.
http://twitpic.com/3frifj
Are they trying to tell us, there were  10 Jackson kids instead of 9? Is the truth revealing? This has been on my mind for a very long time. Latoya has slipped up and said she had 6 brothers now 5. Michael said his father had 10 children and he grew up in a home of 10 children. I've been wondering about this before June 25th. After things have started to reveal. Rebbie said there's more surprises.


I have no idea, but it really stood out for me...especially since the 10th person is not small (which could have been representing Brandon)...they look more like a teenager. It's all so strange....so very stange!
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: PJ4MJ on December 14, 2010, 10:21:03 PM
Quote from: "anewfan"
Dangerous_Inc. posted this enlarged picture of the album cover. You can see a lot of details you couldn't before. I noticed that there are 10 kids around Katherine and Joe. I know that Marlon's twin was stillborn, so does anyone know who the 10th child is? You will have to scroll over and down to see all of them.

The two faces are the only ones that overlap, which tells me they're connected.  That seems to represent Marlon's stillborn twin, Brandon.  Maybe it's just the artist's rendition of what Brandon could have looked like at that age.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: PJ4MJ on December 14, 2010, 10:25:34 PM
http://twitpic.com/3frifj (http://http://twitpic.com/3frifj)

The letter behind Joe doesn't look like the back side of a "C," either.  That just seems out of place for all the detail in the rest of the picture.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: anewfan on December 14, 2010, 10:44:13 PM
What's the significance of the peacock feathers? (I know male peacocks display their brightly colored feathers during mating season. lol!
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: anewfan on December 14, 2010, 10:44:46 PM
Quote from: "PJ4MJ"
http://twitpic.com/3frifj

The letter behind Joe doesn't look like the back side of a "C," either.  That just seems out of place for all the detail in the rest of the picture.

I agree....it is straight.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: mrtoki on December 16, 2010, 01:46:54 AM
Quote from: "anewfan"
Quote from: "PJ4MJ"
http://twitpic.com/3frifj

The letter behind Joe doesn't look like the back side of a "C," either.  That just seems out of place for all the detail in the rest of the picture.

I agree....it is straight.

to me it looks like a street name with 2300 in the corner..does somebody know the street were mike grew up
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: bec on December 16, 2010, 01:52:01 AM
The corner of Jackson street and Jackson Family boulevard.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: sophiecestmoi on December 16, 2010, 05:38:33 AM
Quote from: "anewfan"
Dangerous_Inc. posted this enlarged picture of the album cover. You can see a lot of details you couldn't before. I noticed that there are 10 kids around Katherine and Joe. I know that Marlon's twin was stillborn, so does anyone know who the 10th child is? You will have to scroll over and down to see all of them.

[attachment=0]Jacksons.jpg[/attachment

Here is a link to the picture to see it enlarged.
http://twitpic.com/3frifj
If you try to recognize each kid : from the left to the right : Rebbie, Jackie,Tito, Jermaine, LaToya, Marlon and the kid, Michael, Randy and Janet.They are from the older to the younger, if I'm right. So the kid is Marlon's twin.

LOVE to you all
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: anewfan on December 16, 2010, 05:10:06 PM
Quote from: "sophiecestmoi"
Quote from: "anewfan"
Dangerous_Inc. posted this enlarged picture of the album cover. You can see a lot of details you couldn't before. I noticed that there are 10 kids around Katherine and Joe. I know that Marlon's twin was stillborn, so does anyone know who the 10th child is? You will have to scroll over and down to see all of them.

[attachment=0]Jacksons.jpg[/attachment

Here is a link to the picture to see it enlarged.
http://twitpic.com/3frifj
If you try to recognize each kid : from the left to the right : Rebbie, Jackie,Tito, Jermaine, LaToya, Marlon and the kid, Michael, Randy and Janet.They are from the older to the younger, if I'm right. So the kid is Marlon's twin.

LOVE to you all

Thank you for your comment. Don't you find it weird that they would include Marlon's twin as a grown kid? Maybe I am the only one that thinks it's weird?
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: Cully Surroga on December 16, 2010, 06:27:31 PM
Marlon's twin brother, or what seems to be, has a halo over his head.
Also,
Quote
Don't you find it weird that they would include Marlon's twin as a grown kid? Maybe I am the only one that thinks it's weird?
It is.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: anewfan on December 16, 2010, 06:35:25 PM
Quote from: "Cully Surroga"
Marlon's twin brother, or what seems to be, has a halo over his head.

You are right! Thanks for pointing that out. I never noticed that before.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 16, 2010, 06:38:00 PM
Quote from: "Cully Surroga"
Marlon's twin brother, or what seems to be, has a halo over his head.
Also,
Quote
Don't you find it weird that they would include Marlon's twin as a grown kid? Maybe I am the only one that thinks it's weird?
It is.

Strange... Does anyone have a HQ picture of the complete artwork? Or is it already posted and did I miss it?
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: anewfan on December 16, 2010, 06:39:36 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Cully Surroga"
Marlon's twin brother, or what seems to be, has a halo over his head.
Also,
Quote
Don't you find it weird that they would include Marlon's twin as a grown kid? Maybe I am the only one that thinks it's weird?
It is.

Strange... Does anyone have a HQ picture of the complete artwork? Or is it already posted and did I miss it?


The link I posted above is pretty clear. Or are you looking for an even clearer picture?
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: Cully Surroga on December 16, 2010, 06:45:39 PM
Quote from: "anewfan"
What's the significance of the peacock feathers?


" The Cauda Pavonis, or Peacock's Tail, is an intriguing and significant stage in the Alchemical work. It is said to be the 'anouncement of the completion of the Great Work'. This is in reference to the materia in the vessel rapidly changing many colors before the eyes of the adept and is suppossed to occur just proir to the creation of the Philosopher's Stone. Some alchemists warn against a vain sense of success when this stage is reached as it can upset the process and hence endanger the completion of the Stone. "
source (http://alchemical.tribe.net/thread/07ab3427-5b6b-4aa9-8dfb-fb8fe1f7efc6)
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: MissG on December 16, 2010, 06:46:06 PM
Brtohers: The one on the right hand side of Latoya should be the 10th one.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: Cully Surroga on December 16, 2010, 06:53:23 PM
The peacock, as represented on the Destiny and Triumph artworks, and more if i remember correctly, has various connotations throughout different cultures. Not sure i'm able to translate this correctly, but from what i read in a book, in Western culture it is the bird fighting snakes and transmuting their venom into solar energy, and symbolizes renewal and resurrection.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 16, 2010, 06:55:16 PM
Quote from: "Cully Surroga"
The peacock, as represented on the Destiny and Triumph artworks, and more if i remember correctly, has various connotations throughout different cultures. Not sure i'm able to translate this correctly, but from what i read in a book, in Western culture it is the bird fighting snakes and transmuting their venom into solar energy, and symbolizes renewal and resurrection.
They are portrayed on the Dangerous cover too.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: Cully Surroga on December 16, 2010, 07:01:32 PM
Yes and in the Can You Feel It video, and the Jacksons logo of that era.
Also, there is the same quote on Destiny and Triumph LPs, about the peacock's colours:

" [...]We, like the peacock, try to integrate all races into one, through the love and power of music.
-MJ for Peacock Productions-"
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: anewfan on December 16, 2010, 07:05:01 PM
Thank you for the info Souza and Cully!
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: bec on December 16, 2010, 09:41:52 PM
Quote from: "Cully Surroga"
Marlon's twin brother, or what seems to be, has a halo over his head.
Also,
Quote
Don't you find it weird that they would include Marlon's twin as a grown kid? Maybe I am the only one that thinks it's weird?
It is.

Totally weird.

Perhaps it was necessary to illustrate that Michael was the 7th born child.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: cassi on December 16, 2010, 10:37:27 PM
right beside janet i see elvis, am i the only one  :shock:
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: bec on December 16, 2010, 11:52:37 PM
Don't see Elvis but... why is a belt wrapped around the image of retro Jackson Family from Gary Indiana. Isn't that sort of... ick... considering Joe admitted to hitting his kids with a belt to discipline them?
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: cassi on December 17, 2010, 12:19:11 AM
on the side with lisa marie and princess diana, liza minelli, naomi campbell, janet. then ELVIS, I know i cannot be the only one seeing this, can someone please tell me how to do a screen shot.

edit: here is the pic, just click to make it big, right between janet and the globe with michael and an angel on top, there is elvis.

 http://www.showbiz411.com/wp/wp-content ... mural3.jpg (http://www.showbiz411.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mural3.jpg)
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: bec on December 17, 2010, 12:35:37 AM
Quote from: "cassi"
on the side with lisa marie and princess diana, liza minelli, naomi campbell, janet. then ELVIS, I know i cannot be the only one seeing this, can someone please tell me how to do a screen shot.

edit: here is the pic, just click to make it big, right between janet and the globe with michael and an angel on top, there is elvis.

 http://www.showbiz411.com/wp/wp-content ... mural3.jpg (http://www.showbiz411.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mural3.jpg)

I think you could be right!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/michaelelvis.jpg)

*gasp*  :o

Oh the controversy. It's a secret hidden Elvis.  :lol:  Neato!
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: cassi on December 17, 2010, 12:38:21 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "cassi"
on the side with lisa marie and princess diana, liza minelli, naomi campbell, janet. then ELVIS, I know i cannot be the only one seeing this, can someone please tell me how to do a screen shot.

edit: here is the pic, just click to make it big, right between janet and the globe with michael and an angel on top, there is elvis.

 http://www.showbiz411.com/wp/wp-content ... mural3.jpg (http://www.showbiz411.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mural3.jpg)

I think you could be right!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/michaelelvis.jpg)

*gasp*  :o

Oh the controversy. It's a secret hidden Elvis.  :lol:  Neato!

i think its him hidden in almost plain sight  :D
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: bec on December 17, 2010, 01:09:56 AM
Notice Elvis is being hidden behind money.

This is a big find.
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: MJnowANDforever on December 17, 2010, 01:17:59 AM
Quote from: "cassi"
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "cassi"
on the side with lisa marie and princess diana, liza minelli, naomi campbell, janet. then ELVIS, I know i cannot be the only one seeing this, can someone please tell me how to do a screen shot.

edit: here is the pic, just click to make it big, right between janet and the globe with michael and an angel on top, there is elvis.

 http://www.showbiz411.com/wp/wp-content ... mural3.jpg (http://www.showbiz411.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mural3.jpg)

I think you could be right!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/michaelelvis.jpg)

*gasp*  :o

Oh the controversy. It's a secret hidden Elvis.  :lol:  Neato!

i think its him hidden in almost plain sight  :D

Wow.  What a great find.  Looking at this painting thru the hi res picture posted is simply amazing.  If you zoom in, you can see every little detail without loss of quality.   I wonder what else is hidden in it.

Was just checking for an Elvis profile picture to compare it and found this  :shock:

(http://elvis.pblogs.gr/files/90883-profile.jpg)
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: bec on December 17, 2010, 01:26:02 AM
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I wonder what else is hidden in it.

7s, lots of 7s
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=16539 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=16539)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/michael777chain.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/michael7glove.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/michael7.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/michael7s.jpg)
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: trustno1 on December 17, 2010, 05:04:45 AM
I'd been wondering who the half-hidden face was, and I knew it was probably important to find out, great find.  So much on the cover we need to decipher still!  And most likely there are more clues in the notes, the thank yous to Team MJ for a start, lot of familiar names, lot of not-so-familiar names...
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 17, 2010, 05:23:52 AM
Quote from: "MJnowANDforever"
Quote from: "cassi"
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "cassi"
on the side with lisa marie and princess diana, liza minelli, naomi campbell, janet. then ELVIS, I know i cannot be the only one seeing this, can someone please tell me how to do a screen shot.

edit: here is the pic, just click to make it big, right between janet and the globe with michael and an angel on top, there is elvis.

 http://www.showbiz411.com/wp/wp-content ... mural3.jpg (http://www.showbiz411.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/mural3.jpg)

I think you could be right!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/michaelelvis.jpg)

*gasp*  :o

Oh the controversy. It's a secret hidden Elvis.  :lol:  Neato!

i think its him hidden in almost plain sight  :D

Wow.  What a great find.  Looking at this painting thru the hi res picture posted is simply amazing.  If you zoom in, you can see every little detail without loss of quality.   I wonder what else is hidden in it.

Was just checking for an Elvis profile picture to compare it and found this  :shock:

(http://elvis.pblogs.gr/files/90883-profile.jpg)

Yup, that´s definitely Elvis! Now what is he doing there? :lol:
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on December 17, 2010, 06:04:39 AM
Omg. :o
Elvis!!

I saw the Cirque Du Soleil on there! I really think Michael will come back at those concerts, maybe. :? I want to cry now because I didn't have the money for tickets. :cry:
Title: Cirque du soleil in MICHAEL album cover!
Post by: XxThisIsItxX on December 17, 2010, 11:33:08 AM
hey! i was just 'studying' the Michael album cover for anything significant in the hoax..and i found this:

well.. somewhere i read that the artwork used for the new album was made in 2009 - since when was there was an MJ cirque du soleil in 2009? criss angel.. beLIEve?? (sorry if there was another one i forgot about or i have lost my mind..  :lol: )

why would cirque du soleil symbol be there? it was never a part of his life?! - only in relation to beLIEve .. and the MJ show , but that was put together 2010..
sorry if it's already posted , and please leave comments!

with the love , L.O.V.E.!
Title: Re: Cirque du soleil in MICHAEL album cover!
Post by: AnaMarcia on December 17, 2010, 12:02:02 PM
The cover of this album was assembled from people and times that marked the life of Michael.  It's not strange the symbol of the Cirque du soleil, because it was a future project.
But any way, there will be Cirque de Soleil and Michael in 2011. So that's an important thing in life (or death) from Michael. So ... I think that's all okay!
Title: Re: Cirque du soleil in MICHAEL album cover!
Post by: bec on December 17, 2010, 12:05:25 PM
I think the point is that if the painting was created in 2009, then including CDS would be prophetic.

Next question, do we have a confirmed statement from anyone reporting when the covert art was supposedly created?
Title: Re: Cirque du soleil in MICHAEL album cover!
Post by: jacilovesmichael on December 17, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
Great find! Wow. If that's true then just, WOW!
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: MissG on December 17, 2010, 12:46:01 PM
Elvis behind a 100 Dollars? That´s a 100 Dollars question  :lol:
Title: Re: Cirque du soleil in MICHAEL album cover!
Post by: MJonmind on December 17, 2010, 01:30:38 PM
I've been meaning to ask for a while, does anyone know what that greenish large thing is in the sky, that looks like a mushroom northern lights? Thanks!
Title: Re: The album cover has been changed!
Post by: Cully Surroga on December 17, 2010, 04:33:41 PM
Other strange fact, in the "We are the world" part of the cover, the few artists are well recognizable (Bob Dylan etc), except for Cyndi Lauper, she looks nothing like herself but more like Lady Gaga in disguise.
Nothing serious, just thinking outloud, but still! Disturbing.
Title: Re: Cirque du soleil in MICHAEL album cover!
Post by: XxThisIsItxX on December 17, 2010, 05:26:08 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
I've been meaning to ask for a while, does anyone know what that greenish large thing is in the sky, that looks like a mushroom northern lights? Thanks!

i also wondered what that was! - i thought it was northern lights too , but that isnt really relevant in MJ's life..maybe its  a symobl: meaning something that links to the other random stuff in the cover art..
Title: Re: Cirque du soleil in MICHAEL album cover!
Post by: 2good2btrue on December 17, 2010, 06:09:08 PM
Isn't that a large toad and Peter Pan underneath???
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: airieslady on December 17, 2010, 07:58:44 PM
If you blow up the 100 dollar bill, you will see faces in it, especially MJ faces across the top edge and I don't know who is in the middle?  This is Elvis hiding behind MJ money!
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: NightOwl on December 20, 2010, 11:20:17 AM
Have all the people been named already? Lead me there. If not, who are all those on the up left corner? There's Gordy, Ross, his father, Ed Sullivan, Chaplin, Stevie Wonder, Sammy Davis Jr, (what's the blade all about? )Bill Bray, KennyO, Mandela, Branca..?
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: Superfly Sister on January 09, 2011, 07:43:48 AM
Hi,
I'm not sure about this one, but I think I've spotted a small owl in the left upper corner. Maybe my eyes are tricking me and it's just another face. But it would fit to the other illuminatic symbol (number 23 in the Dangerous cover pic). Can someone zoom in to that corner?

And there are a few other religious symbols on the left side like a cross and a goblet...

Then I have some questions, I hope you can help me with this:

-Who is the person between King Michael and Beat It Michael?
-Why is there a skeleton between King Michael and Bad Michael?
-Why is there a buzz saw above Off The Wall Michael?

(Sorry for the mistakes, I don't speak english very well)
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: ladymjc on January 09, 2011, 09:07:40 PM
Did they make his lips look dry and cracked on purpose or does it say something on there?
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 09, 2011, 10:13:21 PM
Quote from: "ladymjc"
Did they make his lips look dry and cracked on purpose or does it say something on there?

Yes, this has been discussed many times. Some say it says "Love" others think it says "Alive" ;)

viewtopic.php?f=120&t=15855 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=15855)
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: puremind on January 09, 2011, 10:16:26 PM
i see C R W Z, weird , like i fill in CAPTCHA
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 09, 2011, 10:20:56 PM
Quote from: "puremind"
i see C R W Z, weird , like i fill in CAPTCHA

(http://i56.tinypic.com/3460ppe.jpg)  

;)
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: puremind on January 09, 2011, 10:52:11 PM
it's not the same pic inserted by ladymjc.
the original is important to me so i can think for myself.
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 10, 2011, 06:01:20 PM
Quote from: "puremind"
it's not the same pic inserted by ladymjc.
the original is important to me so i can think for myself.

I realize that, I put the one where "ALIVE" is outlined so that you could see what we were talking about better. I was only trying to help, gee...
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: bec on January 10, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
I think the lines only suggest letters.

I think it was left vague on purpose. I don't think it actually spells anything coherent.

He messin' with us!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR-at8V5cvI[/youtube]
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: nefari on January 26, 2011, 05:27:22 PM
Going back to the photo of Brandon on the cover, the way he would have looked at the time had he lived. Notice that his eyes are closed and everyone else has their eyes open. This I would think signifies that he is dead. But it looks odd to me that Marlon and Brandon appear to be joined.
Title: Re: Cirque du soleil in MICHAEL album cover!
Post by: PureLove on January 26, 2011, 05:49:28 PM
Quote from: "XxThisIsItxX"
hey! i was just 'studying' the Michael album cover for anything significant in the hoax..and i found this:

well.. somewhere i read that the artwork used for the new album was made in 2009 - since when was there was an MJ cirque du soleil in 2009? criss angel.. beLIEve?? (sorry if there was another one i forgot about or i have lost my mind..  :lol: )

why would cirque du soleil symbol be there? it was never a part of his life?! - only in relation to beLIEve .. and the MJ show , but that was put together 2010..
sorry if it's already posted , and please leave comments!

with the love , L.O.V.E.!

Was there a  deal with CDS in 2009? I remember it was first announced in 2010. So how come the painter knew about the Cirque in 2009 and included it into the picture?
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: PinkTopaz on March 23, 2011, 11:22:41 PM
In the booklet, of the women, I see Janet, Tatum, Liza, Brooke, Lisa, Naomi Campbell.. but who is that brunette with big curls at the bottom?
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: diana9161 on July 09, 2011, 09:03:07 AM
Excuse me for reopening this thread after such a long time, but I've found some very interesting things about the album cover. First of all, I used the full album cover, which you can find here (http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/12/13/michael-jackson-exclusive-see-the-full-mural-featuring-lisa-marie-presley-brooke-shields-tatum-oneal-diana-ross/michael-jackson-01-4).
 
The Northern Lights or Aurora Borealis have been brought up before, but what I found noteworthy is their significance in Roman mythology according to Wikipedia.
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In ancient Roman mythology, Aurora is the goddess of the dawn, renewing herself every morning to fly across the sky, announcing the arrival of the sun.

You can also see a shooting star next to the Aurora.
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4681/aurorabp.jpg)

 
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Traditionally shooting stars also meant a new birth and changes in ones life and also a wish for a better life. They can also be a symbol of reaching ones ultimate destiny.
You can refer to this (http://www.tao-of-tattoos.com/shooting-star-tattoos.html) site for more details about shooting stars.


The peacock has been mentioned as well. More details can be found on Wikipedia.
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In Christianity, the peacock is an ancient symbol of eternal life.The Peacock symbolism represents the "all-seeing" church, along with the holiness and sanctity associated with it. Additionally, the Peacock represents resurrection, renewal and immortality within the spiritual teachings of Christianity. Themes of renewal are also linked to alchemical traditions to, as many schools of thought compare the resurrecting phoenix to the modern-day Peacock.

Melek Taus (ملك طاووس - Kurdish Tawûsê Melek), the Peacock Angel, is the Yazidi name for the central figure of their faith. The Yazidi consider Tawûsê Melek an emanation of God and a benevolent angel who has redeemed himself from his fall and has become a demiurge who created the cosmos from the Cosmic egg. After he repented, he wept for 7,000 years, his tears filling seven jars, which then quenched the fires of hell. In art and sculpture, Tawûsê Melek is depicted as a peacock. However, peacocks are not native to the lands where Tawûsê Melek is worshipped.

Also, I found the number 23 in the left corner of the Dangerous mask.

(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8231/52616827.jpg)

 
There was a discussion about whether or not the cover was done in 2009. I think this is the proof that it was really completed in 2009.

(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7510/2009ado.jpg)

 You can see the Roman numerals MMIX, which represent 2009. I'm sorry if these findings have been posted before. And sorry for the long post, too.  :)
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on September 24, 2011, 03:38:16 AM
sorry to be a pain and reopen. does anyone have a link to a high def full pic.

also one version has princes symbol on it. the other doesnt it was removed due to not having prince's permission. so the report says, but who knows. i dont know what to buy from media these days.

refering to this link....

http://hiphop-n-more.com/2010/11/prince-symbol-on-michael-jacksons-new-album-cover/

Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: speeddemon on September 24, 2011, 04:56:44 AM
People look at the album cover!!!

I only realised today.

In the top right hand corner you have Michael Jackson in front of the "This is it" sign.

He is showing us the victory sign and directly underneath him is a freaky MJ pic on a tabloid burning.

Defeating the tabloids, that is  a valid reason for a hoax!!!
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: Sarahli on September 24, 2011, 07:41:36 AM
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People look at the album cover!!!

I only realised today.

In the top right hand corner you have Michael Jackson in front of the "This is it" sign.

He is showing us the victory sign and directly underneath him is a freaky MJ pic on a tabloid burning.

Defeating the tabloids, that is  a valid reason for a hoax!!!

(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/9500000/-burn-all-tabloids-michael-jackson-9544756-728-464.jpg)
Title: Re: Discussion about the album cover of 'Michael'
Post by: dyrtiidianna on August 05, 2012, 12:14:33 AM
I was thinking that in both versions, Captain Eo's arms look too long... but maybe that's just me... In the original version, looks like he's holding the cameras... Like he's directing this... but Idk why they'd be dropped later...  :confused:
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