Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => Hoax Videos => Topic started by: WhiteNight on December 21, 2010, 03:17:02 AM

Title: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: WhiteNight on December 21, 2010, 03:17:02 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gppPhMvApio[/youtube]

Are you ready to question what you have been conditioned to beLIEve?

This series is designed for advanced hoax believers. If you are new to the hoax, I recommend that you read up on it and watch videos about the hoax. It’s not an absolute necessity but it will definitely help you to have a deeper understanding of some of the concepts that I will present. I will try to the best of my ability to make this series as comprehensive as possible without dully repeating what has already been covered.

I will post links to videos and a website that I find to be very informative. If you happen to watch videos and read articles from the following links, please do so with an open mind. Don’t be so quick to jump to conclusions. I have seen all of these videos myself and I would like to extend my gratitude to all of the creators of these videos. They have been a great source of information and contain interesting ideas. Although I will admit that I don’t agree 100% on all of the ideas that have been presented. But that’s what’s so great about being able to think for oneself. I know that many will not agree with everything on my video series but that’s ok. I see no need to assert my ideas or opinions on anyone. I’m just here to present information. It’s your choice to watch these videos and it is also your choice to agree or disagree with the ideas presented.

Here is a list of channels on youtube:
CodeOfThriller aka Piano Games: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/CodeOfThriller (http://www.youtube.com/user/CodeOfThriller)<!-- m -->
MJFanFOREVERAndADAY: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/MJFanFOREVERAndADAY (http://www.youtube.com/user/MJFanFOREVERAndADAY)<!-- m -->
Serenity Dreams: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/xSerenityxDreamsx (http://www.youtube.com/user/xSerenityxDreamsx)<!-- m -->
MagicalXscapism: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/MagicalXscapism (http://www.youtube.com/user/MagicalXscapism)<!-- m -->
http://www.youtube.com/user/MJHoaxEvidence

I would also like to mention that this series is not designed to ‘convert’ anyone into a believer. But if people becomes a believer because of my video series, I would be fine with it. The way I see it is like this: If you don’t believe by now, then you will probably never believe. Even if Michael would get in your face and tell you that he is alive, you would scoff at him and say that he’s an imposter.

Another thing that I want you guys to keep in mind is that I have absolutely no experience in creating videos. The trailer for my series happens to be the first video I have ever made in my entire life! The incredible timing on this trailer just freaks me out. All I know is that I had visualized how I wanted this trailer to be. But I never imagined that it would turn out as good as it did. It just had to be God. There is no other explanation for this. All things happen for a reason. As I go along, I know that this will be a learning experience. I must admit that I was pretty fearful of the idea of making videos. I did not know where to start. But I knew that it was important and that it was something that I had to do. 


I have already made a decision concerning comments. I will permanently disable comments in all of my videos for this series on Youtube. I refuse to allow petty disagreements to pollute the comments section. I feel that it would interfere with the effectiveness and goal of the series. I also think that allowing comments would be a consensual invitation for unnecessary drama.

I would prefer that those who are interested discuss this video series here. I apologize for the inconvenience of these arrangements. I just want to make sure that the discussion is productive and that it involves serious believers.

I will be posting the first episode sometime in January, 2011.

Love and Light,

~alma~
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on December 21, 2010, 08:29:00 AM
Thank you White Night!  I look forward to following your series.  See you in January!!  8-)  :D
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on December 21, 2010, 10:36:05 AM
:roll:

Drum roll build up, to a long thread  :roll:

 8-)  :lol:

 ;)
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: WhiteNight on February 04, 2011, 11:30:38 PM
Sorry for the delay on getting these posted here. >_<

Liberian Girl Heehee: Hey! I’m sorry that I took forever to even come back to this thread! Lol I have no idea as to what reaction people will have to my series because it is probably pretty controversial to some people with closed minds. But I quite frankly do not care. This is just something that hit me like lightning and I felt compelled to learn how to make videos so that I could share my revelations with others. Either way, I hope you find this series to be informative. <3

Here are the first four episodes to my new video series.

I can’t seem to edit my post so I guess I will have to just reply to the thread. I wish I could have just edited my first post... Perhaps I’m blind and the ‘edit’ button is there but I can’t see it. I know I have edited my own posts before.

Oh well… >_>

*Special Note*

I have created second editions to certain episodes that are blocked in some countries due to the music that I chose to use. I’m new to making videos and youtube uploading so I did not know that videos could be blocked based of certain content. I hate how the use of Michael Jackson music is grounds for blocking in certain countries. I find that to be quite annoying as his music is a VERY important accompaniment to his message. *sigh*

Anyway…

 I’m learning new things everyday with this video project. The only edition that does not have any music is ‘Episode 1 [Second Edition]’ I will probably re-upload this video with music later on after I finish this first season.

Second edition videos should be viewable globally. Episodes that do not have second editions should be viewable globally as well.

Episode 1
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCs-Y1SkI-Q[/youtube]

Episode 1 [Second Edition](NO SOUND)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAHRqA_Zfr8[/youtube]

Episode 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt0A7vKMuw8[/youtube]

Episode 3
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_Qm14CPdg[/youtube]

Episode 3 [Second Edition]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd2k9U6VE-8[/youtube]

Episode 4
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXKdxGZyt8[/youtube]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: applehead250609 on February 12, 2011, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: "WhiteNight"
Sorry for the delay on getting these posted here. >_<

Liberian Girl Heehee: Hey! I’m sorry that I took forever to even come back to this thread! Lol I have no idea as to what reaction people will have to my series because it is probably pretty controversial to some people with closed minds. But I quite frankly do not care. This is just something that hit me like lightning and I felt compelled to learn how to make videos so that I could share my revelations with others. Either way, I hope you find this series to be informative. <3

Here are the first four episodes to my new video series.

I can’t seem to edit my post so I guess I will have to just reply to the thread. I wish I could have just edited my first post... Perhaps I’m blind and the ‘edit’ button is there but I can’t see it. I know I have edited my own posts before.

Oh well… >_>

*Special Note*

I have created second editions to certain episodes that are blocked in some countries due to the music that I chose to use. I’m new to making videos and youtube uploading so I did not know that videos could be blocked based of certain content. I hate how the use of Michael Jackson music is grounds for blocking in certain countries. I find that to be quite annoying as his music is a VERY important accompaniment to his message. *sigh*

Anyway…

 I’m learning new things everyday with this video project. The only edition that does not have any music is ‘Episode 1 [Second Edition]’ I will probably re-upload this video with music later on after I finish this first season.

Second edition videos should be viewable globally. Episodes that do not have second editions should be viewable globally as well.

Episode 1
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCs-Y1SkI-Q[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]

Episode 1 [Second Edition](NO SOUND)
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAHRqA_Zfr8[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]

Episode 2
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt0A7vKMuw8[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]

Episode 3
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_Qm14CPdg[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]

Episode 3 [Second Edition]
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd2k9U6VE-8[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]

Episode 4
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXKdxGZyt8[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]


Hello WhiteNight!!!

Wow I like all your videos,I already saw all of them.
If this is your new project wich you already told us about last year,it's super.I wish you all the best and let's hope Michael will come bach soon.



LOVE
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: Sarahli on February 12, 2011, 04:18:58 PM
Hi WhiteNight just watched the videos great job of investigation, this makes a lot of sense. I hope there's more to come? I unfortunately cannot have been able to watch the last video (episode 4), it says removed...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: WhiteNight on February 14, 2011, 04:07:25 AM
Hey applehead250609

Thanks for your comment! I really hope you find them to be informative! ^^;

Quote from: "Sarahli"
Hi WhiteNight just watched the videos great job of investigation, this makes a lot of sense. I hope there's more to come? I unfortunately cannot have been able to watch the last video (episode 4), it says removed...

Hmmmmm... That is strange... It's still available on my channel. I am able to view it just fine. It also says that it is still available worldwide. I'll look into it. I'm also gonna look into getting a place that I can have them be available for download. I'll let you know about that later on.

Here is the link to my channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/7White7Night7?feature=mhum (http://www.youtube.com/user/7White7Night7?feature=mhum)

Maybe you can see the video by going directly to my channel.

Thank you for your feedback. ^^ And yes, there will be much more to come. I should be posting episode 5 sometime today.

<3
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: Sarahli on February 14, 2011, 02:45:10 PM
Okay thanks it works now  :D  ... I don't know what happened last time.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: WhiteNight on February 14, 2011, 06:55:54 PM
Quote from: Sarahli
Okay thanks it works now  <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->  ... I don't know what happened last time.

You are welcome Sarahli! I’m glad that you were able to view the video!

I just posted Episode 5 a few hours ago. There is only one problem though. This video is not viewable in Germany. I found out that the reason it is being blocked in Germany is because of some copyright issues related to the CNN interview footage that I used. This is a very important part of the video and I do not want to remove it. I know of a couple of friends who are from Germany that were still able to watch Episode 1 before I posted the second edition version. I’m not sure how they did it. I’ll be sure to ask them.
 
Here’s Episode 5

Enjoy!

~alma~

Episode 5
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7RC4V1g3s[/youtube]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: Sarahli on February 16, 2011, 02:43:27 PM
Well I have a "problem" with lady Gaga  :lol:  first of all i can't even watch her videos so i've skipped some parts of your video WhiteNight (my sensitiveness LOL) really i don't think that lady Gaga is raising awareness but it's just my opinion i know that a lot of people appreciate her "artistry". Now about the interview and the O2 concerts  ... i'm not so sure if this is really Michael himself who wanted her to make the introduction because she just says something like "I've been asked" to do it, not mentionning exactly whom. I don't know how it works and who decides about these things... I also notice her hesitation before answering ... don't know how to interpret it though. It can lean to my point of view or yours  ;)
I have in mind that finally these concerts were never meant to be because of the hoax, so Lady Gaga was never meant to open the show for real LOL. Well I admit that this is just a biased opinion because i really don't think that she is raising awareness or if she says she is it's not the proper way to do it for me, JMO.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: applehead250609 on February 20, 2011, 09:48:37 AM
Quote from: "WhiteNight"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Okay thanks it works now  :D  ... I don't know what happened last time.

You are welcome Sarahli! I’m glad that you were able to view the video!

I just posted Episode 5 a few hours ago. There is only one problem though. This video is not viewable in Germany. I found out that the reason it is being blocked in Germany is because of some copyright issues related to the CNN interview footage that I used. This is a very important part of the video and I do not want to remove it. I know of a couple of friends who are from Germany that were still able to watch Episode 1 before I posted the second edition version. I’m not sure how they did it. I’ll be sure to ask them.
 
Here’s Episode 5

Enjoy!
~alma~

Episode 5
[youtube:3ji2oxf7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7RC4V1g3s[/youtube:3ji2oxf7]

Hello!!!

Wow I love your new video with Lady Gaga.I don't know why but this video remembers me about dmovie27 hoax videos.He also said something about THE WHORE witch I think is the Church. I don't know who this person is but I found a very intresting channel he/she has on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/dmovie27


LOVE YOU!!!
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: TheRunningGirl on February 22, 2011, 06:07:43 PM
@ WhiteNight - Great Videos (Even more impressive for a novice!)and excellent research work,  a few comments below.

An interesting "perspective" on history which when considered with an open-mind makes sense.  Controversial it may be, but based on the information provided, I can easily see the Great Whore of Babylon symbolising Religion and more specifically the Catholic Church.
The Vatican is in complete control of the Jesuits order which in turn controls the Illuminati , Military Order of Malta and other Masonic organisations, to form an elitist organisation with enormous control on World matters. The so called NWO!
http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Vatican_%26_Jesuits
The historical paradox in "V" for Vendetta is indeed interesting as the 5th of November indeed celebrate a failed attempt to burn the parliament, it shows the depth of the research done here!
Lady Gaga interview, tweets and video is one more indication that she is playing her role in "The Greatest Show on Earth"; her comments on the Alejandro's video and the symbolism associated with the video itself, support the controversial perspective on the Catholic Church previously discussed.

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: WhiteNight on April 12, 2011, 04:30:37 AM
Thank you so much for your input TheRunningGirl!

I have not been on here for quite some time. I have been doing research for the upcoming episodes of the series.

Yes I agree with all that you have said. And yeah it is quite controversial isn’t it?

I do believe that the ‘whore of Babylon’ encompasses false religion. Revelations is very descriptive of this woman known as the ‘mother of harlots’. Religion has driven people to do sick and twisted things for hundreds if not thousands of years. I can not imagine that this woman would be anything but false religion.

Yes the Vatican controls all of the organizations that you have mentioned even if people refuse to acknowledge it to be so.

They (Vatican/religious leaders) wish to place a ‘secular’ veil over the so-called NWO so that they cane repel attention from themselves. They are the true puppet masters.

 The V for Vendetta parallels, in my opinion, are meant to prompt for us to do our ‘HIStory homework’.   

As for Lady Gaga, I was not sure how else to put it. I knew that people would have issues with it but I’m not making this video series for attention or for any vain purpose. It’s just to put my ‘revelations out there. People can choose to agree or disagree with the information presented.

Thank you again for you commentary!

LOVE  ~alma~

Now for the video series:

I’m sorry for taking such a long time to update this thread! I have made a few more videos since so here they are. I hope you all will find them to be interesting. I must warn you that episodes 6 and 7 are super fast paced. I didn’t want this subject to spill over to the next season.

Episode 6
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOcYXOCOuqU
[/youtube]
Episode 7
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqCTV8fsUk[/youtube]

This is the first episode of season 2. It’s more of a transitional episode.

Episode 8
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMP2cHP5HOI[/youtube]

The next episode should be posted sometime this week.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: PureLove on April 12, 2011, 05:23:01 PM
I watched just one of the videos but it's very interesting. Thank you so much for making and sharing them with us. :) Now I need to watch them all. Blessings.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: TheRunningGirl on April 13, 2011, 08:12:09 PM
Thank You WhiteNight for more thought provoking videos.

Michael was going to open the O2 concerts with LIGHT MAN and he may return as "LIGHT MAN".  "LIGHT MAN" is the one who has seen the LIGHT and He is coming back to help others see it too. Shocking the World is part of AWAKENING people for the journey ahead.

Quote
"THE TIME HAS COME
THE TIME HAS COME
THE TIME HAS COME
IT IS NOW I SEE AND FEEL THAT CALLING ONCE AGAIN, TO BE PART OF A MUSIC THAT WILL NOT JUST CONNECT BUT,
MAKE ALL FEEL ONE, ONE IN JOY, ONE IN PAIN, ONE IN LOVE, ONE IN SERVICE AND IN CONSCIOUSNESS

~MICHAEL JACKSON"

O2 announcement -  Official Michael Jackson website

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: WhiteNight on April 14, 2011, 01:43:35 AM
PureLove: You are very welcome! I hope you enjoy them! I send blessings to you too!

TheRunningGirl: Yes I believe that is a big possibility. Michael’s message in itself would shock the world if people had a full comprehension of it.  Like you just said, Michael knows the truth (Light) and he has been trying to let us in on it all this time but he saw that people were not getting it so he had to so something drastic to garner our attention.  I can’t think of anything more drastic than faking one’s death and succeeding in shocking the masses.

I agree with you in that this (shock) is just the dawning of awakening. 

The truth always prevails.

Thank you for your comment!

<3

Here’s Episode 9

Episode 9

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmIB9kEBZug[/youtube]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: MJonmind on April 14, 2011, 02:53:11 AM
Somehow I've missed this thread, and so I intend to watch your videos tomorrow as I need to go to sleep now. Looks very interesting! I really appreciate the ones who take things deeper than the majority of believers. Reminds of things TS has said.
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TIAI March 9 by TS_comments » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:17 am
Finally: is this hoax a prank, or a Thriller II reality movie, or an ARG, or a sting operation, or a Vendetta, or an NWO/EOW warning, or a wake-up call to the gullible public (don't believe everything in the media), etc--which is it? And the answer is: all of the above! It is something that people have never seen before, at least not the combination of these things and on this scale.
Quote
TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
This Is REALLY It!
The end of the world is near: whether you want it or not, whether you believe it or not, whether you’re ready or not—the end of the world is coming, soon and very soon! This is big; this is huge; this is colossal; in fact, it really doesn’t get any bigger than this!!! And once again, from the London press conference {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo&feature=PlayList&p=4337629E8ED55A02&index=4}: “This is it, I mean this is REALLY it; this is the final — this is the FINAL curtain call.”
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: son on April 14, 2011, 07:12:07 AM
Quote from: "WhiteNight"
[youtube:19bafdig]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7RC4V1g3s[/youtube:19bafdig]

It's interesting when Lady Gaga is examined. Some people see her as an ally toward MJ in the hoax/the fight against the illuminati by raising awareness via example and symbolism. Others say that her use of symbolism (particularly Alejandro) marks her as being a part of the system MJ is trying to fight against. Personally I feel it's the latter instead of the former. I don't think she's an "enemy" of his, but I don't think they are working together. That being said, you don't see her doing much of anything anymore so...
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: TheRunningGirl on April 26, 2011, 08:07:53 PM
@WhiteNight, I am taking the freedom of posting your latest video, it triggered a couple of thoughts which may "fly away" if I don't capture them soon  <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->  -- I hope you do not mind!

Episode 10
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DYAqtJbf14[/youtube]

There are plenty of evidences to suggest that Michael created his own "spiritual truth" and I believe that you are right in mentioning Martin Luther as one of those "inspirations".

Martin Luther King was Born Michael King Jr and unofficially renamed Martin Luther King Jr at the age of 6 in 1935 as his father sought inspiration from Martin Luther.
http://www.martinlutherking.org/thebeast.html (http://www.martinlutherking.org/thebeast.html)
Martin Luther religious teaching was itself heavily inspired by Paul (The apostle) and one can easily see that many of Martin Luther King famous speeches also were inspired by Paul.
http://covenantoflove.net/uncategorized/martin-luther-king-jr-had-a-dream-so-did-the-apostle-paul/ (http://covenantoflove.net/uncategorized/martin-luther-king-jr-had-a-dream-so-did-the-apostle-paul/)

Paul has made many quiet "apparitions" in the "hoax" over the last 22 months, here are a few examples:
- TS has quoted Paul on numerous occasions. TS Redirect on the 17th January, Galatians 5:13-14 is for example Paul
- The birthplace of the Cirque du Soleil is Baie St. Paul in Quebec
- Murray was arraigned on the 25th January - St Paul's Feast
- The Dancing Philippines inmates ("This is it - They don't care about us") is symbolic of the conversion of the jailor, a biblical event that took place in Philippi, where some men who weren’t happy about the conversion of their slaves turned the city against the missionaries. Paul and Silas were jailed but following a miraculous Earthquake, the doors of the prison opened and Paul & Silas were able to walk free; this led to the conversion of the jailor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI[/youtube]

@ mjintrigue2012: Full Credit to you for pointing out many of those highly relevant connections! 

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: WhiteNight on April 27, 2011, 01:27:06 AM
Ok… This a long post so here we go >_<;

Sarahli: OMG!!! I’m very sorry about not responding to your comment when I made that video post!

I totally understand where you are coming from. The first time I watched that video. I put my hands over my eyes. LOL! I had never seen anything like that in my life. I was an atheist but a conservative atheist. HAHA!!

I respect your views and I can see why you have that opinion. I was of the same opinion myself for a while.

Travis Payne says some interesting things concerning Lady Gaga and how much Michael admired her work. I believe that there is a reason for Travis to have referred to Lady Gaga. And it was done with very good timing if you take the ‘Alejandro’ music video into consideration. It seems to me that Michael wanted us to pay attention to what she was working on.

As for the Larry King interview of Lady Gaga…

She could have hesitated for many reasons. And yeah, like you said, it could lean either way. But why on earth would she make such a statement in the first place? I mean that’s huge!  I agree in that the concerts were never meant to take place but still. No one in Michaels’ camp has denied Lady Gaga’s claims. Usually Jermaine would comment on something that big to set the record straight. From what I know, I don’t think he has.

Do I think that Lady Gaga knows that Michael is alive? Well… I think that it is very possible but I will not say with certainty that she does.

I have seen many of her works and I have also seen a lot of her interviews as well as concert footage. She’s actually a very good speaker although her approach may be unconventional to some.

From what I have seen, she is raising awareness on how the gay community is mistreated and how society unfairly judges them. Yes others before her have done this but she has somehow appealed to those who are not gay. Why do you think I find this to be relevant?

The late Dame Elizabeth Taylor did the same thing herself. Michael was very close to Liz and they had a lot in common.

I grew up in a Christian home but I was just following the current but along the way, I had to really evaluate myself and my beliefs. I began to question everything.

I could not understand how people in the church were so judgmental. They would preach love yet they would hate. I began to resent them and I thought that if that’s the kind of God that they served, I wanted nothing to do with it.

Upon ‘seeking my own salvation’ I have come to the conclusion that there is no room for hate. Although I do not live a gay lifestyle myself, I love the gay community immensely. They are so loving and accepting to everyone. We have much to learn from them.

Yes I am a born again Christian (like some may call it) but I believe that any so called ‘Christian’ who discriminates against anyone for ANY reason is a big hypocrite and they have some serious soul-searching to do.

While Michael is straight, he loves everyone no matter who they are. This is an example that Jesus has set for us and I believe that it’s important to follow in his footsteps. That’s part of what this is all about.

Michael has shown us that it’s not impossible to do so in this world that is filled with so much evil.

Thank you for your comment and I truly appreciate you honesty! *hugs*<3

MJonmind: Thanks for you comment! I’m glad that this provokes thought in people. That’s all I want. I just want people to think of things that they have never thought of before. I suppose that that’s what Michael wants us to do. (Think outside the box)

Son: That’s a really good point that you make. I agree in that she is not his enemy. Even if she is not involved in the hoax, that does not rule out the possibility that Michael is using her without her knowledge. If this is the case, Michael has people in different places that let him know what Lady Gaga is up to. To me this is far fetched but you never know. Everything happens for a reason. I think that it would be more feasible for her to be in on it to a certain degree. In the least, she may know that Michael is alive and what his true message really is. It’s possible but I’m not gonna say that it’s so.

Thanks for your feedback!

TheRunningGirl: Oh I don’t mind at all lol. I actually got on here to post it. Thanks so much for posting it for me! <3

Oh woah! The whole Paul the Apostle connection is quite amazing! I always wondered about the ‘Dancing Philippines Inmates’ Video and its connections to the hoax.  Thank you for enlightening me on that one! It makes perfect sense!

Thanks again for your very interesting finds and info! It is much appreciated!!

~alma~
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: son on April 27, 2011, 06:36:45 AM
Putting my religious beliefs a side:

I don't see how he could be working with Lady Gaga. Though those close to him were gay icons (Liz Taylor, Janet) Lady Gaga seems a bit too caustic with her sacriligious symbols, regardless of the message shes trying to put forward. Michael still seemed to maintain some of his Christian (Jehovah's Witness) beliefs after leaving the church.

I could be wrong though. As you said, MJ admired her talent and allegedly wanted her to open for her in TII. I think you may be reading too far into that though. Michael had Aaron Carter and Lil' Romeo perform during his 30th anniversary. I think it may just be because she's a new (or at least more new at the time) up and coming pop star.

Most of her support of the gay community is designed as criticism of the broader Christian faith in general. A lot of gay people are opposed to her methodalogy (as well as her overall unconventionalness).
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: Sarahli on April 27, 2011, 11:47:43 AM
Hi WhiteNight no worries if you don't answer. About Lady Gaga I'm just gonna say that it is my personal opinion I just don't like her artistry no matter what's the intent behind, I just don't like it. I would be interested to see the interview where Travis Payne says that Michael admires her work I have not seen this, thank you. See you soon  :lol:
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: TheRunningGirl on April 29, 2011, 11:08:24 AM
Quote from: son
Putting my religious beliefs a side:

I don't see how he could be working with Lady Gaga. Though those close to him were gay icons (Liz Taylor, Janet) Lady Gaga seems a bit too caustic with her sacriligious symbols, regardless of the message shes trying to put forward. Michael still seemed to maintain some of his Christian (Jehovah's Witness) beliefs after leaving the church.

I could be wrong though. As you said, MJ admired her talent and allegedly wanted her to open for her in TII. I think you may be reading too far into that though. Michael had Aaron Carter and Lil' Romeo perform during his 30th anniversary. I think it may just be because she's a new (or at least more new at the time) up and coming pop star.

Most of her support of the gay community is designed as criticism of the broader Christian faith in general. A lot of gay people are opposed to her methodalogy (as well as her overall unconventionalness).

Here is a copy of an article and a video where Travis Payne discusses Michael's desire to collaborate with Lady Gaga.

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Michael Jackson Wanted To Collaborate With Lady Gaga
This Is It choreographer says MJ wanted Gaga as one of his guests at London concerts.
By Gil Kaufman

(http://www.mtv.com/shared/promoimages/bands/l/lady_gaga/bestbuy_11242009/281x211.jpg)

It could have been one of the most bizarre musical hookups in pop history. According to a new interview with Michael Jackson's choreographer, Travis Payne, the late King of Pop was a big fan of Lady Gaga and had tried to set up a meeting to discuss a possible joint project.

The revelation comes from a video posted on December 30 on YouTube by Amsterdam-based producer/actor Raffles van Exel, who asks Payne which artists MJ was interested in collaborating with before his death last June.

"I gave him a short wish list [of possible collaborators] ... and he was like, 'Sure, they can all come, as long as their schedules permit and it's not too much of a problem for them,' " Payne said of Jackson's humble response to a suggestion that he reach out to other artists to work with him on his This Is It series of shows in London. "Of course, I suggested Janet, of course Whitney Houston. ... Diana Ross and Mariah Carey we talked about. We talked about Missy Elliott. We talked about Usher, of course. We talked about Justin [Timberlake], Celine Dion ... Sting, Seal, Bono, Tina Turner. We talked about all these people that I thought were cool but that he liked."

Then, Payne said he asked Jackson if there was anyone else he wanted to reach out to. "He goes, 'Lady Gaga.' I go, 'Really?' He goes, 'Yeah.' He's the one who really got me to get into her. He literally told me, 'You gotta get into her. She's good.' So, I started listening to her music more and going on YouTube and looking at her performances, and I was like, 'He's right.' "

Payne did not specify in the video when these conversations took place. He said that last November, he got a call from Lady Gaga and told her the story about the conversation with Jackson. "She got moved by it," he recalled. A spokesperson for Gaga could not be reached for comment about Payne's claims.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-E_jCkRTk[/youtube]
(N.B.Raffles van Exel is also the one who interviewed Marlon Jackson -- I think -- soon after the 25th June.  "Back" refers to the Marlon interview in one of his many posts)

 <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->   <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->  Lady Gaga has got talent and does not shine away from controversy.  Don't you think, she is the type of person Michael may have found INTERESTING whether or not, he fully shared her beliefs?

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: son on April 29, 2011, 12:31:20 PM
Quote from: "TheRunningGirl"
[youtube:2nwp8mfd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-E_jCkRTk[/youtube:2nwp8mfd]
(N.B.Raffles van Exel is also the one who interviewed Marlon Jackson -- I think -- soon after the 25th June.  "Back" refers to the Marlon interview in one of his many posts)

 :D   :D  Lady Gaga has got talent and does not shine away from controversy.  Don't you think, she is the type of person Michael may have found INTERESTING whether or not, he fully shared her beliefs?

With L.O.V.E

As I said before:

I could be wrong though. As you said, MJ admired her talent and [s:2nwp8mfd]allegedly[/s:2nwp8mfd] apparently wanted her to open for him in TII. I think you may be reading too far into that though. Michael had Aaron Carter and Lil' Romeo perform during his 30th anniversary. I think it may just be because she's a new (or at least more new at the time) up and coming pop star. As Travis said, he wanted to please the fans.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: Sarahli on April 29, 2011, 02:14:31 PM
Actually I've seen that interview RunningGirl thanks for posting  :D  what a memory that I have  :?  well let's just say that for me this is just a question of taste I don't like the universe of Lady gaga.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: TheRunningGirl on May 01, 2011, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Actually I've seen that interview RunningGirl thanks for posting  :D  what a memory that I have  :?  well let's just say that for me this is just a question of taste I don't like the universe of Lady gaga.

My pleasure Sarahli!
I am glad to see you are still standing strong!  beerchug

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Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: gwynned on May 24, 2011, 07:29:19 AM
Just want to say thanks for this very fascinating series.  When I first became aware of the hoax and had a couple of profound experiences myself, my son had an interesting dream.  He claims not to be a beLIEver (he's 18!) but had a dream in which MJ was in a spaceship of some sort that hovered above Rome for 3 days.  Any weapon that tried to attack it fell to the ground.  After 3 days, Michael appeared and came down and destroyed the exterior portion of the Vatican (including the Illuminati symbols like the obelisk) and walked in to St. Peter's basilica and took over.  Thus your focus on the Vatican has truly piqued my interest.  

Have you considered this possibility.  If the Vatican is really the antichrist, as Martin Luther apparently suggested, would they not see MJ as a threat to their power?  Did he know too much and/or was he so spiritually advanced he could take followers away from them, not just because of his fame?  If history tells us anything, Messengers of God tend to stir things up and upset existing bureaucratic calcifying religious institutions and their leaders.  After all, he does say Martin Luther and not Martin Luther KING.  He's not sloppy.  This was not a mistake.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: WhiteNight on June 05, 2011, 11:36:18 PM
Son:  LOL! ‘Sacrilegious symbols?’ The whole Roman Catholic Church is just a pile of ‘sacrilege’ along with all of her spawn harlot ‘Christian’ churches who’s pastors have descended so low as to kiss the pope’s sullied hand.  But I suppose many are blind to this. I believe I have the right to say this because I was blind to this myself.

Yes Michael maintained many of his ‘Christian’ beliefs but one must understand the difference between ‘true’ Christianity and ‘professed’ Christianity. The Jehovah’s Witnesses stress on this concept and it is probably one of the most important notions that Michael has kept with him.

(I hate to use the term ‘Christian’ as it has been cheapened by excessive and improper use.)

Catholicism is NOT true Christianity. It is pagan Baal worship with a ‘Christian’ twist. This is not a matter of opinion. This is fact. All of its religious practices are derived from ancient pagan rituals. One would have to be blind not to see this.

The ‘broader Christian faith’ deserves to be criticized. They ostracize the gay community and anyone who disagrees with them and their man-inspired doctrine and are shocked when said groups reject their “eternal message of Salvation”.

I know this to be so because I have seen this with my own two eyes.

Perhaps if they would actually read their Bible (if they indeed have one) they would know that Jesus teaches us how to approach an unbeliever >>>>With LOVE. NOT hate. We are to LOVE our enemies and do good to those who curse us and eventually, they will come around.

But instead, many so-called Christians do the exact opposite.

His 30th anniversary was an event that took place prior to his ‘death’ and is not relevant to the ‘death hoax’ so of course he would have picked artists of the time.  But the TII Concert tour was never meant to happen in the first place. It’s the main part of the hoax. So why would he bring attention to Lady Gaga in particular when there were a plethora of other artists? There were plenty of other ‘new’ (and safer) artists that he could have chosen. Michael has NEVER shied away from controversy. As it stands, Lady Gaga is the epitome of controversy.  Do you honestly think that Michael would play it safe for his most innovative work yet?

This is Michael’s hoax, not ours. And it will adhere to HIS personal tastes and preferences, NOT ours. It has NOTHING to do with what we deem as acceptable or what we prefer. I learned this early on.

Just because I don’t like certain things in the hoax investigation, (which I didn’t at one time ie: Elvis and other related stuff) does not invalidate them as credible possibilities. I would have thought that people would get this by now.

And I say this with all due respect.

Gwynned: Oh WOW! I actually remember reading about the dream that your son had quite some time ago. I have thought about that dream ever since.  It’s amazing that you posted on this thread because I have been trying to find you lol. The Vatican is full of Illuminati symbols and I think it’s so strange how most of the believers fail to point that out here. I suppose that it must be a touchy subject. After all, speaking against the Catholic Church has its consequences but I don’t care because I know that God goes before me.   

I have definitely considered the possibility.  As a matter of fact, I believe that the Vatican is indeed the seat of the antichrist. An individual like Michael is most certainly a threat to the Vatican because he has such an immense influence all around the world. He knows too much and has been trying to tell people what he knows through his music in the form of unorthodox subliminal messages.

I really think that Michael is a messenger of God. He fits the description quite well. Lol

I totally agree. He is definitely not sloppy. This is no mistake nor is this an accident. 

Thanks for your comment!
 
I have posted two other episodes so here they are:

Episode 11:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eumg-g9F8bs[/youtube]
Episode 12
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lw-CCh7I2Y[/youtube]
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: son on June 06, 2011, 10:01:39 AM
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This is Michael’s hoax, not ours. And it will adhere to HIS personal tastes and preferences, NOT ours. It has
NOTHING to do with what we deem as acceptable or what we prefer. I learned this early on.


-This goes back to my first point, the diverse explanations of Lady Gaga in the hoax (and the illuminati at large). Is she showing us the evils as an example of what not to do/who not to follow? Or is she using these symbols as a middle finger saying “yeah I’m with them, so what?” Regardless, there are conflicting theories within the hoax about everyone presumably involved (including his own family). But even in the case of them we really don’t know what role they play regardless of how we fans feel about them individually (ie: Jermaine is an enemy, ally, or double agent). What I’m basically saying is “our opinion doesn’t matter” goes both ways, especially when we really don’t know if many of MJ’s statements are legitimate.  In my defense though, MJ was quoted by one of his assistants as condemning homosexuality on biblical principles when some guy tried to ask him out (it’s credibility is questionable but it’s not based on my opinion).  
Which actually makes you think about the illuminati in and of itself. They’re an evil organization but with ill-defined evilness. What exactly is their intention? Our own opinions also effect this issue as well.

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His 30th anniversary was an event that took place prior to his ‘death’ and is not relevant to the ‘death hoax’ so of course he would have picked artists of the time. But the TII Concert tour was never meant to happen in the first place. It’s the main part of the hoax. So why would he bring attention to Lady Gaga in particular when there were a plethora of other artists? There were plenty of other ‘new’ (and safer) artists that he could have chosen. Michael has NEVER shied away from controversy. As it stands, Lady Gaga is the epitome of controversy. Do you honestly think that Michael would play it safe for his most innovative work yet?

I don't think everyone chosen to perform at the concerts were involved. I think some people were "chosen" unknowingly to make things look more legit (like the boy from Britain's got Talent). Also Lady Gaga was easily the biggest name in pop music in 2009, no one would’ve been a better choice to headline (or at least perform in between) the concert based on her sheer popularity.

What is said below has nothing to do with MJ.

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Catholicism is NOT true Christianity. It is pagan Baal worship with a ‘Christian’ twist. This is not a matter of opinion. This is fact. All of its religious practices are derived from ancient pagan rituals. One would have to be blind not to see this.

Correlation doesn't equal causation, just because there is similarity doesn’t mean there derivation.  Religious human sacrifices took place throughout the world, were they all derived from a single occasion? Now in the case of Catholicism, it’s ironically an example of what happens when sola scriptura is denied and the church is given equal grounds to the Bible. But pre-roman Christianity had a more cohesive message than we give credit for in the historical biblical criticism discourse; particularly if we give Paul’s epistles more historical priority than Mark.  

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The ‘broader Christian faith’ deserves to be criticized. They ostracize the gay community


It depends on how you define ostracize. If you mean something a la Westboro Baptist church then I agree.  If you mean kicking gay people out of the church for simply being gay then I also agree. However, if you mean rethinking the church’s general position on homosexuality and marriage in general then I disagree (in the aspect of actions, not people).  I’ll go into more detail here via PM if you want me to.  
The issue of homosexuality is personal to me, I’d like to see a Christian justification (ie: reason for it NOT being sinful) of it that doesn’t involve a disingenuous political agenda. Or placing an expectation on God based on secular norms.  

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and anyone who disagrees with them and their man-inspired doctrine and are shocked when said groups reject their “eternal message of Salvation”.

Might want to elaborate here more because what you say doesn’t go without saying. :|
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on June 13, 2011, 12:19:48 AM
Thankyou @WhiteNight:

love~
mjintrigue2012
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: Sarahli on June 13, 2011, 04:23:57 PM
Hi WhiteNight...I have watched your new videos...for the last one I have not much to say. There sure seems to be a link with Lopez Tonight (show that I cannot watch) ... now I don't know to what extent this is important in the hoax but I see the link and you have explained it well in the video.

It makes me sad to know that few people wanted to testify in favor of Michael but it doesn't surprise me that much. There are a lot of hypocrites in the world of show business...people think more about themselves and their image rather than anything else. No integrity. There may be exceptions of course, there are always.

About the Arvizo family and how they ended up in Michael's life, obviously that was a TRAP, no way they came across Michael's life by chance especially with what happened after, it was all part of the devilish plot.

Now about the Roman Catholic Church obviously everything is done to hide the disgusting behavior of certain priests and the new pope reinforced their protection http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/arti ... priests.do (http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23369148-pope-led-cover-up-of-child-abuse-by-priests.do) ... and you don't hear that in the breaking news section...but we know who controls the media. The Church is powerful and the Vatican does what it wants, this new "law" gives power to the Vatican to handle themselves the cases...can you believe that? Now I think that they didn't go after Michael just in order to cover themselves there must be something else, it happened twice, so they were specifically after Michael Jackson for a reason. I remember your post about the connection between the dates of the allegations made against Michael and the priests scandals...now what happens if another scandal appears? This is why I had a doubt about the reasons connecting the events. I don't dismiss this is one of the reasons but I think there is something else...like their knowing that Michael was a threat (and still is) to them. What I'm trying to say is that they didn't picked up Michael just because he was the most famous person thinking that this would be enough for them to occupy the media with a "sensational" story and distract the people's attention away from them. They really have tried to bring Michael down. So like the Hoax there are certainly different layers of explanations. Thank you and God bless you.
Title: Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on June 13, 2011, 06:43:25 PM
Hi @WhiteNight!

Great videos!  Here is an interesting “coincidence” that supports your theory about the Catholic Church cover-up.  You may remember the Michael Jackson “faked death” countdown website and the subsequent Fountain of Youth and Saunders messages.

There is a Saunders Island in the South Atlantic Ocean with plenty of penguins (maybe the inspiration for the TII penguin dance move) and a Volcano in the centre called Mount Michael.
Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saunders_I ... ch_Islands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saunders_Island,_South_Sandwich_Islands)

(http://www.volcano.si.edu/volcanoes/region19/antarct/michael/2802mic2.png)

Coincidentally, there is a 1990 film with Tom Hanks entitled “Joe Versus the Volcano."  This film was directed by John Patrick Shanley (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099892/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099892/)).  The same John Patrick Shanley later directed a 2008 movie called “Doubt”:

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The movie Doubt, which recently held its premiere at a Paris Theater, has been partly inspired by the follies of Michael Jackson. This was admitted by director John Patrick Shanley who directed the movie based on his play which was staged in Broadway in 2004, which almost coincides with the child molestation trial of Jackson.

The award winning play thrives on the conflict created by the allegations against Father Flynn one of which was that he has given liquor to a 12-year old boy. This scene, Shanley admits, was inspired by the “Jesus Juice” given by Michael Jackson to children who visited Neverland. This incident was discussed during the pop singer’s trial for which he was ultimately acquitted.

This early, Doubt which stars the award-winning Meryl Streep, is already creating a buzz in the awards circuit and is a strong contender for Oscar nominations in the Best Director, Screenplay, Best Actress as well as Supporting Actor and Actress categories.

Doubt may have been set in 1964 but there is no doubt that it is indeed very timely considering the scandals being faced by the Catholic Church and its priests today.
Reference: http://www.celebbinge.com/2008/12/12/mi ... res-doubt/ (http://www.celebbinge.com/2008/12/12/michael-jacksons-juice-inspires-doubt/)

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Washington, Dec 10 (ANI): The Doubt director John Patrick Shanley has said that the movie has been partly inspired by Michael Jackson.

The film, which Shanley directed from his 2004 Broadway play, was premiered to an all-star crowd at the Paris Theater on Dec 7.

He said that when Father Flynn is revealed in the award winning play to have given a 12-year-old boy liquor the incident was inspired by Michael Jackson having given “Jesus Juice” to children at Neverland.  

The filmmaker revealed the connection on December 9 at the Four Seasons, where Miramax toasted him, Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Viola Davis with a lunch celebrating the films opening.

And what looks like, Doubt is clicking perfect timing with Jackson the play opened on Broadway in November 2004 and the following March, during Jacksons child molestation trial, the whole “Jesus Juice” business was discussed in testimony.  

However, Jackson was acquitted in June 2005, reports Fox News.

And the buzz is that the film is a strong contender for Oscar nominations in Best Actress, Supporting Actor and Actress, Screenplay, and Director.

While the film is set in 1964, but considering the Jackson connection and scandals concerning priests and the Catholic Church, Shanley said, “It couldnt be more timely.” (ANI)
Reference: http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/ind ... 29286.html (http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/jacko-partly-inspired-doubt_100129286.html)

In April 2002, the news of Father Paul Shanley (NO relation to the film director other than the same last name) and his pedophile activities broke out in the media.

(http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2002/0204/sohanley.jpg)

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Shanley, now 71, didn't just have sex with children; he publicly endorsed the concept. He didn't just use his collar to get access to minors; he ran a special ministry for the most vulnerable among them. And he didn't fly below the radar of the church hierarchy; the 818-page archive released by the Boston Archdiocese under court order shows that two Cardinals and a phalanx of deputies knew about allegations of his abuse going back more than 30 years. But instead of handing Shanley over to police or at least defrocking him, they ignored, protected or promoted him. More than 40 alleged victims have now claimed abuse.

If any scandal can bring down the most powerful Cardinal in the country, it could be this one. The steady drumbeat for the resignation of Bernard Cardinal Law grew louder last week, with the Boston Globe and some of Law's staunchest former defenders saying he must go. Several major donors to the diocese's Catholic Charities are withholding funds. Law issued a statement on Friday saying he intends to stay--but this drama is not over.
Reference: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... -1,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,230384-1,00.html)

In October 2004 Father Paul Shanley was scheduled for trial for indecent assault and battery and for child rape.

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Shanley, then Father Shanley, emerged as a central figure in the Catholic sexual abuse scandal from the day The Globe launched a series of Pulitzer Prize-winning articles about the church in January 2002. No other priest has received as much high-profile national press attention. Few others have faced trial.

When Shanley was released on $300,000 bail the following December, after seven months in jail, his lawyer used a body double to divert the media frenzy. When people in Provincetown on the tip of Cape Cod learned Shanley had taken up residence there, signs began appearing on lampposts, warning neighbors that a pedophile was in their midst.
Reference: http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/Sept ... poct04.msp (http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/September-October-2004/feature_wypijewski_sepoct04.msp)

If, as BACK pointed out many times, there are no coincidences, then what is MICHAEL trying to tell us here!

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