Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => Understanding His Music & (Short) Films => Michael's Life & Clues He Left Us => Michael => Topic started by: m8ighty on December 21, 2010, 03:48:32 PM

Title: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: m8ighty on December 21, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
Ok, i dont if this has been posted yet, i searched but couldnt find it here, but i decided to take a look at the credits for each song in the little CD booklet and what i found shocked me a bit.

For HOLLYWOOD TONIGHT,  (I Like) THE WAY YOU LOVE ME, BEST OF JOY, and BREAKING NEWS Michaels name isnt even listed once, not even for background vocals!  :?:  And for Much to soon (the song supposedly recorded during the thriller era doesnt even have michael listed  as lead or background vocals either.......

For "KEEP YOUR HEAD UP" and "MONSTER" Michaels name is only listed for Background Vocals

and the rest of the songs, ANOTHER DAY and  BEHIND THE MASK, Michael is listed as the lead vocals.

 Now the name that does come up for alot of the lead and backround vocals is Michael Durham Prince.
Now just who is Michael Durham Prince?
And Bradley Buxey is the copyright claimant for every single new song listed under Michael Jackson/Michael Jackson Estate.

More disturbing? This post found on a Michael Jackson Fan Forum

“Michael Durham Prince Worked On New Songs”

"I was the first who reported about dozens of new songs MJ recorded with Bradley Buxler in 2009.

Now I can tell you that Michael Durham Prince was also present on these recording sessions, and will be credited if these songs will ever be released. He was the audio supervisor of the planned This Is It live shows." Source - http://mjackson.com/forums/topic/4291-m ... new-songs/ (http://mjackson.com/forums/topic/4291-michael-durham-prince-worked-on-new-songs/)

Michael Jackson recorded dozens of songs with Durham Prince in 2009?  Really? When?  In between runs to Dr. Kleins office and rehearsals for This is It?  Should I repost Michael’s schedule in 2009?  Here it is:  Source - http://www.michaeljacksonjustice.com/mj ... hedule.htm (http://www.michaeljacksonjustice.com/mj_2009_schedule.htm)

Remember all the stories about how weak Michael was and how according to Faye he could not even hardly get up the stairs on the stage?  Yet he had enough energy to do rehearsals, fight a lawsuit, stop a Julien’s auction, go to Dr. Kleins every other day sometimes for hours, shop with his children, go to multiple business meetings, fend off gang-stalkers who followed him everywhere (and yet never mention these recording sessions) and NOW we are to believe that Michael, the eternal perfectionist also had time to not only write but RECORD 19 songs (all in 2009) and THESE are SUPPOSED to be of that cache of unreleased songs that supposedly were already recorded???

If your interested in looking yourself this blog,
 http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/20 ... -wind.html (http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/2010/12/breaking-news-or-breaking-wind.html)  
has it all listed, a little different then the booklet but pretty much the same message im trying to get across.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: mjboogie on December 21, 2010, 03:57:58 PM
So what does the song credits tell us? :cry:
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Elsa on December 21, 2010, 04:02:41 PM
Yes - Michael Durham Prince.  You can see him in the Special Features of the TII DVD.  
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3667021/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3667021/)
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: m8ighty on December 21, 2010, 04:12:51 PM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
So what does the song credits tell us? :cry:

Well im not sure why they would list it like that if they  wanted to convince us that it is actually michael singing
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 21, 2010, 06:14:40 PM

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE2OTcyNjM4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODI5OTQ5Mg@@._V1._SY314_CR5,0,214,314_.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3667021/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3667021/)

So he only worked on TII and the new album? Typical.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: sandythyme on December 21, 2010, 07:44:12 PM
I have been reviewing and reviewing the credits page since last Tuesday and I find myself asking what's going on?  Maybe since some of the songs were only partly finished, they can not give Michael credit as lead vocalist, back up vocals and any vocal.    This whole thing makes no sense to me!   I will say, I am trying  to put the credits page behind me for now and just enjoy Michael.  I really like it a lot.  After a few days rest, I will return to the credits page.  Take care, Love to All
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: kalispera on December 21, 2010, 09:14:52 PM
so who gets the money?
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: kalispera on December 21, 2010, 09:19:06 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/10/michael-j ... te-estate/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/10/michael-jackson-dangerous-creditors-claim-bradley-buxer-black-or-white-estate/)
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: jacilovesmichael on December 21, 2010, 09:31:48 PM
Ok so who is Michael Durham Prince?????

Why does only one picture of him come up when I google his name for images, and the rest are all Michael Jackson ones?

And this reminds me of the Prince symbol on the "Michael" cover that was removed...  :shock:

And I guess the album is just called "Michael", no last name for a reason?

Lol... just thinking outloud. But seriously who is this guy? A sound alike? Or an actual impersonator? Or this old guy that pops up in google images?

Is this guy an actual person or is it an alias for MJ?

...Or have I lost it?  :)
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: kalispera on December 21, 2010, 09:35:27 PM
i'm sure they're all invented.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: jacilovesmichael on December 21, 2010, 09:37:42 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE2OTcyNjM4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODI5OTQ5Mg@@._V1._SY314_CR5,0,214,314_.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3667021/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3667021/)

So he only worked on TII and the new album? Typical.


Haha, I call BS on this one. I think that's just a random dude with the name slapped onto it.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: bec on December 21, 2010, 10:34:05 PM
Ooo the plot thickens.

Ok, quick, think back... who has exclusively referred to first name only, "Michael", when debating the authenticity of the vocals in recent past?

Example: "It's all Michael singing on this album, it's all him."

Loopholes, loopholes....

Someone is trying SUPER hard to make this whole new album business look shady and Sony made out to be $ony.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 22, 2010, 02:33:08 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Ooo the plot thickens.

Ok, quick, think back... who has exclusively referred to first name only, "Michael", when debating the authenticity of the vocals in recent past?

Example: "It's all Michael singing on this album, it's all him."

Loopholes, loopholes....

Someone is trying SUPER hard to make this whole new album business look shady and Sony made out to be $ony.


Could be, but I listened to the album a zillion times (because it's the only one NOT packed and I need some music while painting and putting on my wall paper) and I still think it's all MJ even though some vocals do sound a little different.

I think that blondy id suspicious. A random guy, or a prostetic guy, I don't know, but something is up.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: bec on December 22, 2010, 02:35:32 AM
I agree. I think it's all him too.

But as a theatrical production, meaning this PR campaign, the plot thickens.

You know what I mean?
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: chappie on December 22, 2010, 02:35:58 AM
Always great to sing with my brother..... ;)
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: MJonmind on December 22, 2010, 03:03:32 AM
So strange, but this guy sounds even busier than MJ his "last" year, and nothing relates to MJ.
[attachment=0:h3g4pias]mike2[1].jpg[/attachment:h3g4pias]
Mike Prince, Founder of Shangers Ltd.
Mike Prince has spent more than 35 years of his working life to date in the broadcast television industry having been employed by eight of the British ITV companies in a variety of on-screen and production roles. Over the past 15 years he has gained extensive experience of the international independent production sector. Mike was raised in Birmingham , England , educated at Denstone College , one of Britain 's traditional boarding schools, followed by the Webber Douglas Academy in London where he studied drama and television production.

In the mid-1960s Mike joined Lord Grade's famous ATV broadcast network as a programme researcher, but was soon spotted as a potential on-screen presenter and became, at the time, the youngest network newsreader and programme host in the UK.

ATV was a fine training ground for the entertainment sector, and Mike was lucky to be involved in many different aspects of the industry working for an innovative network that was responsible for high-profile shows like "The Saint" (Roger Moore), "The Prisoner" (Patrick McGoohan), and "The Persuaders" (Tony Curtis). It was Lord Grade who spotted the talent of Jim Henson for international exploitation when he backed The Muppet Show. Mike's involvement in the on-air publicity of the Muppets helped to secure a lasting interest in children's entertainment and the ancillary products that they spawn.

After many years with ATV and freelance assignments with several other UK broadcasters, Mike began the transition to the independent production sector. He quickly became recognised as both a creator of children's intellectual properties and an executive producer involved in the financing, studio production, international programme sales and product merchandising of series. As a producer, Mike has worked on several shows in Canada as well as Scandinavia and the UK .

In 1992 he was one of the two founding directors of Winchester Multimedia Limited, which in due course became a public company and one of the first media groups to be listed on the AIM market in the UK . Through until September 2002 he was an Executive Director of Winchester Entertainment plc where his responsibilities included overseeing the company's television and consumer product merchandising activities.

In the independent production sector, principally with Winchester , Mike's credits include:

Co-creator and Executive Producer of JELLABIES (Fox TV, US, GMTV, UK, Super RTL, Germany) and THE SNOW CHILDREN (YTV Canada, GMTV, TV2) Created THE BIG GARAGE (Learning Channel US, Disney UK and GMTV) and ST. BEAR'S DOLLS HOSPITAL (YTV Canada, GMTV, TV2). Executive Producer for THE WHEELS ON THE BUS and brought THE ADVENTURES OF SHIRLEY HOLMES (BBC, Fox, YTV) to market.

During the 1990s, for 4 years, he managed the worldwide licensing and merchandising of the famous 'LOVE IS…' newspaper cartoon feature. In association with Endemol he co-developed a 'LOVE IS…' game show for international format sales.

In the early part of 2003 Mike developed the concept for Shangers with its sister brands Teaopolis and Princess Teana. Under the corporate umbrella of Shangers Ltd in the UK and Shangers Teaopolis in North America it is the growth of these brands that is now Mike's full time interest and passion.

Mike Prince lives in Oxfordshire , England with his wife Regina and five children.

Mike is spearheading corporate development of Shangers in Europe .
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: lraving on December 22, 2010, 03:11:13 AM
How about We ask Teddy Rilley about it. Just to see what his answer will be.
Or ask Michaeljackson.com?

L.O.V.E.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: nefari on December 22, 2010, 04:44:03 AM
ignore my post thank you
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: friendlikeme81 on December 22, 2010, 06:06:48 AM
kudos to the make-up-artists! That's another good one!  :lol:

[attachment=0:3as7rafb]michael durham prince casket guy comparison.jpg[/attachment:3as7rafb]
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: ~Souza~ on December 22, 2010, 07:31:39 AM
LOL. So funny how all those suspicious charachters all have the same chocolate brown eyes. I say fork in those Oscars in 2012 Mike!  ALL of them! :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Bee Bee on December 22, 2010, 09:45:49 AM
I don't quite get it. Many of the songs don't list anyone for main vocals because anyone would correctly guess the lead vocals belong to the album artist. It's the same with any other album. They list background vocals because they're frequently sung by other artists alongside the actual singer.

It sometimes says "vocals recorded BY", that means they were recorded by them, not sung... Right?
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: ForstAMoon on December 22, 2010, 11:02:03 AM
It appears (at least as stated on IMDB) that Michael Durham Prince is connected to Audio 4 Video Company.

(http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af214/moonter/durham.jpg)

http://www.A4VDigital.com/ (http://www.A4VDigital.com/)

In November 2009 the studio filed creditor claim:

Jackson Musical Creditor's Claim
11/2/2009 10:10 AM PST by TMZ Staff


Old Man Creditor ... just keeps rollin' along. Yet another Michael Jackson creditor's claim ...

This time Audio 4 Video Digital, Inc. wants $736,502.59 for rented sound recording and audio equipment "in connection with the making of a musical."

Michael is listed as the performer and the producer.

Here's what's interesting: One of the bills lists the start date as 6/9 and the finish date as 6/25 ... the day Jackson died.

MJ's Last Recording - Subject of Creditor's Claim
11/2/2009 10:30 AM PST by TMZ Staff  


We've now learned the basis for the latest creditor's claim against Michael Jackson's estate -- and it could be a goldmine.

As we first reported, Audio 4 Video Digital (A4V Digital, Inc.), filed a creditor's claim for $736,502.59. Sources connected with A4V tell TMZ that Jackson had been recording songs shortly before he died and A4V was working on the music at the time of his death.

An A4V source says the company is a co-owner -- along with the estate -- of the copyright for the sound recordings. This could represent the last work of Michael Jackson -- so good, bad or ugly, it could be the royal jackpot.

We're also told A4V was working with Jackson for years before his death and has a stockpile of recordings that have never been released.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: m8ighty on December 22, 2010, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Ok so who is Michael Durham Prince?????

Why does only one picture of him come up when I google his name for images, and the rest are all Michael Jackson ones?

And this reminds me of the Prince symbol on the "Michael" cover that was removed...  :shock:

And I guess the album is just called "Michael", no last name for a reason?

Lol... just thinking outloud. But seriously who is this guy? A sound alike? Or an actual impersonator? Or this old guy that pops up in google images?

Is this guy an actual person or is it an alias for MJ?

...Or have I lost it?  :)

I like the way you think, you brought up some good points to think about. Personally i love the album, and at times it makes me feel guilty when the thought of it not being MJ himself comes to mind. There has to be a bigger picture to this album........
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Datroot on December 22, 2010, 12:46:45 PM
He may be the one who had to finish off the half-recorded vocals by MJ.  IMHO, most of it sounds like MJ to me but I can hear someone else there.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: ni-co-le on December 22, 2010, 02:02:03 PM
I am also wondering why this album has such a simple name just:: MICHAEL: ,and i thought MJ would pick a more special name for the album.I dont know what to think but i love every song of it and i play it almost everyday ...i am also a big STEVIE WONDER listener / fan .... 8-) I havent read the Booklet yet but i will do it if i have more time...
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: backstager on December 22, 2010, 02:38:20 PM
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
Ok so who is Michael Durham Prince?????

Why does only one picture of him come up when I google his name for images, and the rest are all Michael Jackson ones?

And this reminds me of the Prince symbol on the "Michael" cover that was removed...  :shock:

And I guess the album is just called "Michael", no last name for a reason?

Lol... just thinking outloud. But seriously who is this guy? A sound alike? Or an actual impersonator? Or this old guy that pops up in google images?

Is this guy an actual person or is it an alias for MJ?

...Or have I lost it?  :)

Real person  :) He was in the TII special features.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Lemonbread904 on December 22, 2010, 03:40:57 PM
Guys did you read the information on Mr. Michael Durham Prince. Under Self Section is shows 2 titles: Michael Jackson's This Is It: Staging the Return-Beyond the Show and the  Michael Jackson's This Is It: Staging the Return- The Adventure Begins.

What do you guys think about that.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: mikestanek1 on December 22, 2010, 04:23:52 PM
I personally think that the whole album is all Michael Jackson, the main vocals anyway.  And of course many of the background vocals too.  But I was just wondering.  Do all of the people on here that think the album is not 100% Michael believe then that Michael is dead?  It doesn't make sense to me.It's an MJ death hoax forum and yet it seems that people are on here now to doubt that his death was a hoax.  I don't understand it.  The album IS him.  I honestly think it's pretty easy to tell.  The critic reviews of the album are horrible because they simply don't like him or they want to hear Billie Jean 2 or Thriller 2.  It's not fair to think that way.  The album is a masterpiece.  I find myself liking it even more than any of his others which kind of blows my mind.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: mikestanek1 on December 22, 2010, 05:12:16 PM
I did notice something in the booklet that was wrong though.  It's the lyrics to Hollywood Tonight.  Second verse..."She's giving hot tricks to men just to get in, she was taught that that's not clean, she's only fifteen"
In the song it isn't "she's only fifteen", it's "she's headin for the big time that means".
I don't really understand what happened there.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: bec on December 22, 2010, 10:15:26 PM
Quote from: "mikestanek1"
I did notice something in the booklet that was wrong though.  It's the lyrics to Hollywood Tonight.  Second verse..."She's giving hot tricks to men just to get in, she was taught that that's not clean, she's only fifteen"
In the song it isn't "she's only fifteen", it's "she's headin for the big time that means".
I don't really understand what happened there.

Yikes!

Wow  :?  err. Interesting.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Daniela on December 22, 2010, 11:03:31 PM
On the back of the MICHAEL CD case, it says:
"This album contains 9 previously unreleased vocal tracks performed by Michael Jackson."
I don't know why he is not listed as the lead singer in the booklet, but, having listened to Michael's voice for 40 years, I believe it's him singing every song... and I LOVE the album.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: jacilovesmichael on December 23, 2010, 10:27:54 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "mikestanek1"
I did notice something in the booklet that was wrong though.  It's the lyrics to Hollywood Tonight.  Second verse..."She's giving hot tricks to men just to get in, she was taught that that's not clean, she's only fifteen"
In the song it isn't "she's only fifteen", it's "she's headin for the big time that means".
I don't really understand what happened there.

Yikes!

Wow  :?  err. Interesting.

Yeah.......ummm...that's a pretty big typo to make...? Weird. Maybe those are the original lyrics but he changed them to make it more family friendly? I don't know. But then you would think they wouldn't include the original lyrics in the booklet, unless Michael specifically wanted it there.

Now that I think of it though those are really telling lyrics about Hollywood. Unfortunately things like that DO go on. I can attest to that. When I was 16 I was working with a record producer. He put me through a "boot camp" to get in shape (I was already in shape and underweight if anything), he told me if I didn't do it right or if I gave up he'd made me start over and I'd have to do it all naked.

 :shock:

Maybe this is just another little clue for us to open our eyes and see what really goes on behind the scenes...
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: m8ighty on December 23, 2010, 10:55:10 AM
Dont get me wrong, I love the album to death, i listen to it everyday, every chance i get. Im just saying somethings not right about the whole thing. Something we are not seeing or piecing together.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: bec on December 23, 2010, 11:31:35 AM
The album is not for music and chart toppers, it's a hoax. It's a vessel. A message carrier.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Datroot on December 23, 2010, 12:21:11 PM
Quote from: "bec"
The album is not for music and chart toppers, it's a hoax. It's a vessel. A message carrier.


It's still good though whatever the reason.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Andrea on December 23, 2010, 12:45:32 PM
Quote from: "Datroot"
Quote from: "bec"
The album is not for music and chart toppers, it's a hoax. It's a vessel. A message carrier.


It's still good though whatever the reason.

Whatever the purpose, the album is simply amazing.  I tend to agree with Bec that is was never really intended to fly off the shelves (although that wouldn't hurt either).  The official MJ site would not have released all the songs before the album came out if the album's intent was just sales.  There is more than meets the eyes and ears here....
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: friendlikeme81 on December 23, 2010, 12:55:35 PM
o.k, this is Michael Durham Prince in "This is it - Staging the Return"

[attachment=1:3qj70tim]Michael Durham Prince TII.jpg[/attachment:3qj70tim]

and here the picture from IMDB again

[attachment=0:3qj70tim]Michael Durham Prince IMDB.jpg[/attachment:3qj70tim]

What do you guys think, is it the same person? You see what I mean (hair line, neck, eyebrows)? Or is the IMDB picture only taken some years before, when he was younger? Odd that he wears the same necklace although the pictures seem not to be from the same era...
This makes me still question the authenticy of this person.  :?

if you are interested, here are also the links to the vids (he only has short appearances in them)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsdCQN67lqw#t=1m52s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsdCQN67lqw#t=1m52s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm3p3QA_-Qo#t=8m38s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm3p3QA_-Qo#t=8m38s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLXpPc7HLoU#t=3m40s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLXpPc7HLoU#t=3m40s)
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: 2 Bad on December 24, 2010, 12:34:08 AM
Quote from: "Andrea"
Quote from: "Datroot"
Quote from: "bec"
The album is not for music and chart toppers, it's a hoax. It's a vessel. A message carrier.


It's still good though whatever the reason.

Whatever the purpose, the album is simply amazing.  I tend to agree with Bec that is was never really intended to fly off the shelves (although that wouldn't hurt either).  The official MJ site would not have released all the songs before the album came out if the album's intent was just sales.  There is more than meets the eyes and ears here....

YES!!!
Two of my co-workers haven't heard the album yet and I asked if they would like the CD. Well they did! So I bought one for each of them and told them that "it's multilayered. The first time you hear is the top layer and each time a different layer will open up. You will  soon realize that there are messages, music, order of tracks, words to songs and on and on. Just keep your mind open and let the music move you".
They were so excited to get the CD and I am sure they enjoyed their drive home  :lol:
I hadn't read these two posts before so I just about fell out of my chair. Because..... I thought the same thing!
Oh and I bought the last 2 on the shelves at the store! Hopefully they have more in stock!

WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL!!!
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Andrea on December 24, 2010, 01:11:55 AM
Quote from: "2 Bad"
Quote from: "Andrea"
Quote from: "Datroot"
Quote from: "bec"
The album is not for music and chart toppers, it's a hoax. It's a vessel. A message carrier.


It's still good though whatever the reason.

Whatever the purpose, the album is simply amazing.  I tend to agree with Bec that is was never really intended to fly off the shelves (although that wouldn't hurt either).  The official MJ site would not have released all the songs before the album came out if the album's intent was just sales.  There is more than meets the eyes and ears here....

YES!!!
Two of my co-workers haven't heard the album yet and I asked if they would like the CD. Well they did! So I bought one for each of them and told them that "it's multilayered. The first time you hear is the top layer and each time a different layer will open up. You will  soon realize that there are messages, music, order of tracks, words to songs and on and on. Just keep your mind open and let the music move you".
They were so excited to get the CD and I am sure they enjoyed their drive home  :lol:
I hadn't read these two posts before so I just about fell out of my chair. Because..... I thought the same thing!
Oh and I bought the last 2 on the shelves at the store! Hopefully they have more in stock!

WE LOVE YOU MICHAEL!!!

How sweet are you for buying the CD for them!  :D  I used to work with this guy who would listen to my hoax talk a lot and the day the This Is It DVD came out, he bought it for me from Walmart at 7 that morning so it would be on my desk when I got to work.  Makes me smile to think about it.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on December 24, 2010, 02:26:20 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
LOL. So funny how all those suspicious charachters all have the same chocolate brown eyes. I say fork in those Oscars in 2012 Mike!  ALL of them! :lol:

Agreeeeeed! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on December 26, 2010, 11:22:26 PM
I believe that the "vocals recorded by" simply refers to the person who recorded the track (ie. the person who was working the recording equipment), not the person who is singing on the track.  Notice in this section of the booklet that when it states Vocals or Background vocals it doesn't mention the word "by", but rather Vocals:  Michael Jackson; Background Vocals:  Michael Jackson.  So I think that Michael Durham Prince just recorded Michael Jackson singing during the recording sessions for those songs.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Datroot on December 27, 2010, 08:09:36 AM
Quote from: "PeaceLoveHappiness"
I believe that the "vocals recorded by" simply refers to the person who recorded the track (ie. the person who was working the recording equipment), not the person who is singing on the track.  Notice in this section of the booklet that when it states Vocals or Background vocals it doesn't mention the word "by", but rather Vocals:  Michael Jackson; Background Vocals:  Michael Jackson.  So I think that Michael Durham Prince just recorded Michael Jackson singing during the recording sessions for those songs.

Yes because on the songs that are so obviously MJ ie I Like the Way you Love Me, it also says vocals recorded by MDP.  He's just the engineer.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Cameron on December 27, 2010, 04:07:55 PM
Quote from: "PeaceLoveHappiness"
I believe that the "vocals recorded by" simply refers to the person who recorded the track (ie. the person who was working the recording equipment), not the person who is singing on the track.  Notice in this section of the booklet that when it states Vocals or Background vocals it doesn't mention the word "by", but rather Vocals:  Michael Jackson; Background Vocals:  Michael Jackson.  So I think that Michael Durham Prince just recorded Michael Jackson singing during the recording sessions for those songs.


Totally agree with you. :)
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on December 28, 2010, 04:01:07 AM
Quote from: "Lemonbread904"
Guys did you read the information on Mr. Michael Durham Prince. Under Self Section is shows 2 titles: Michael Jackson's This Is It: Staging the Return-Beyond the Show and the  Michael Jackson's This Is It: Staging the Return- The Adventure Begins.

What do you guys think about that.


I was watching my This is It DVD last night, and hadnt watched the special features before and under staging the return the interviews feature Mr Michael Durham Prince as an interviewee.  Go check it out, think Im going to have to watch it all again and the special features, not watched the supplementary dvd yet either.  :?
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: lyfelongMJfan on December 29, 2010, 08:05:11 PM
if you use all the letters of MDP's name

MICHAELDURHAMPRINCE =

MAIN
PRIME
LEAD
CHURCH
Title: Who is Michael (Durham) Prince??? and Mischke?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on December 31, 2010, 09:27:06 AM
Okay so i decided to actually read the booklet that came with MICHAEL from cover to cover and i noticed this Michael Durham Prince guy in it...he sings backup in several of the songs and he is also one of the archivists of the estate. Dont you find this strange? Has he ever worked with Michael before this album? Of course he did something with This is It didnt he? Who is he? Where did he come from?
Oh and this Mischke fellow as well...who is he?
Strange that is all.Anyone else care to add anything more?
Title: Re: Who is Michael (Durham) Prince??? and Mischke?
Post by: whatyourheartsays on December 31, 2010, 09:49:10 AM
i saw this man worked on This is it as "audio supervisor"...

How i read the thing :

exemple :
Behind the Mask
Lead &backgroung vocals : Michael Jackson
= voice is Michael Jackson

Best of Joy / Hollywood Tonight / The Way you love me
Vocals RECORDED by : Michael Durham Prince (and Mischke)

If the voice was Michael Durham Prince or Mischke it should appear the same as for "Behind the Mask" and say "lead and background vocals : Michael Durham Prince

What i understand is that Michael Durham Prince is the one who RECORDED the voice of whoever was singing.

The way it is written is confusing (is there anything not confusing in that story ?)

As you can notice, "Much too soon" as no indication of voice either it's MJ or not, same for Hold my Hand...The ONLY song which has clear info about the lead vocal is Behind the Mask.
To me, the way they wrote "vocals recorded by" is just a credit for the technical part of RECORDING the singer's voice, as audio supervisor.
Title: Re: Who is Michael (Durham) Prince??? and Mischke?
Post by: m8ighty on December 31, 2010, 09:50:15 AM
theres already a thread, here you go:

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=16671 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=16671)
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: whatyourheartsays on December 31, 2010, 09:56:35 AM
I copy my post in here

 I saw this man worked on This is it as "audio supervisor"...

How i read the thing :

exemple :
Behind the Mask
Lead &backgroung vocals : Michael Jackson
= voice is Michael Jackson

Best of Joy / Hollywood Tonight / The Way you love me
Vocals RECORDED by : Michael Durham Prince (and Mischke)

If the voice was Michael Durham Prince or Mischke it should appear the same as for "Behind the Mask" and say "lead and background vocals : Michael Durham Prince

What i understand is that Michael Durham Prince is the one who RECORDED the voice of whoever was singing.

The way it is written is confusing (is there anything not confusing in that story ?)

As you can notice, "Much too soon" as no indication of voice either it's MJ or not, same for Hold my Hand...The ONLY song which has clear info about the lead vocal is Behind the Mask.
To me, the way they wrote "vocals recorded by" is just a credit for the technical part of RECORDING the singer's voice, as audio supervisor.

BUT it also makes me think that the whole album has a message when you realise that the only "LIVE" and official MJ's voice, is on a song called "Behind the Mask"  :roll: Says it all  to me !
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: whatyourheartsays on December 31, 2010, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: "PeaceLoveHappiness"
I believe that the "vocals recorded by" simply refers to the person who recorded the track (ie. the person who was working the recording equipment), not the person who is singing on the track.  Notice in this section of the booklet that when it states Vocals or Background vocals it doesn't mention the word "by", but rather Vocals:  Michael Jackson; Background Vocals:  Michael Jackson.  So I think that Michael Durham Prince just recorded Michael Jackson singing during the recording sessions for those songs.

i missed your post, but i agree 100% with your idea, i think just the same :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: mdc on December 31, 2010, 10:36:27 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjE2OTcyNjM4NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODI5OTQ5Mg@@._V1._SY314_CR5,0,214,314_.jpg)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3667021/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3667021/)

So he only worked on TII and the new album? Typical.

That man reminds me of the guy who played Murdoc in the tv series Macgyver. He was Macgyver's arch enemy who kept coming back from the dead to try and kill him.  

Creepy. lol
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on December 31, 2010, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "mikestanek1"
I did notice something in the booklet that was wrong though.  It's the lyrics to Hollywood Tonight.  Second verse..."She's giving hot tricks to men just to get in, she was taught that that's not clean, she's only fifteen"
In the song it isn't "she's only fifteen", it's "she's headin for the big time that means".
I don't really understand what happened there.

Yikes!

Wow  :?  err. Interesting.

Maybe JANET? Could be....the little handwritten note in the booklet says that it is inspired by a true story
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on December 31, 2010, 10:40:06 AM
I did not realize this topic was started so i posted a few minutes ago...this is what i wrote:

Okay so i decided to actually read the booklet that came with MICHAEL from cover to cover and i noticed this Michael Durham Prince guy in it...he sings backup in several of the songs and he is also one of the archivists of the estate. Dont you find this strange? Has he ever worked with Michael before this album? Of course he did something with This is It didnt he? Who is he? Where did he come from?
Oh and this Mischke fellow as well...who is he?
Strange that is all.Anyone else care to add anything more?
Title: Re: Who is Michael (Durham) Prince??? and Mischke?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on December 31, 2010, 10:41:30 AM
Quote from: "whatyourheartsays"
i saw this man worked on This is it as "audio supervisor"...

How i read the thing :

exemple :
Behind the Mask
Lead &backgroung vocals : Michael Jackson
= voice is Michael Jackson

Best of Joy / Hollywood Tonight / The Way you love me
Vocals RECORDED by : Michael Durham Prince (and Mischke)

If the voice was Michael Durham Prince or Mischke it should appear the same as for "Behind the Mask" and say "lead and background vocals : Michael Durham Prince

What i understand is that Michael Durham Prince is the one who RECORDED the voice of whoever was singing.

The way it is written is confusing (is there anything not confusing in that story ?)

As you can notice, "Much too soon" as no indication of voice either it's MJ or not, same for Hold my Hand...The ONLY song which has clear info about the lead vocal is Behind the Mask.
To me, the way they wrote "vocals recorded by" is just a credit for the technical part of RECORDING the singer's voice, as audio supervisor.

Exactly my thoughts. Thanks for clarifying. Michael is the LEAD vocalist on ALL the songs as far as iam concerned

Isnt it strange this guy's first name is Michael as well and Prince is his last??? Weird!
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: MJonmind on December 31, 2010, 12:39:08 PM
I still think this is the same guy only older, and reversed. Brown to blue eyes easy, same one eyebrow up.
Edit, well maybe not. :?
[attachment=1:2cl0ma68]Michael%20Durham%20Prince%20TII[1].jpg[/attachment:2cl0ma68][attachment=0:2cl0ma68]mike2[1].jpg[/attachment:2cl0ma68]
Title: Re: Who is Michael (Durham) Prince??? and Mischke?
Post by: underthemoon on December 31, 2010, 01:15:39 PM
Here in Germany in TV they just showed the History concert in Munich from 1997....is was amazing !
In the credits i saw the name Michael Prince too.
Maybee someone is interested in ?

I wish all of you a Happy new year !!!! With Love !!!
Title: Re: Who is Michael (Durham) Prince??? and Mischke?
Post by: MJmakesmespeechless on December 31, 2010, 02:55:17 PM
Quote from: "underthemoon"
Here in Germany in TV they just showed the History concert in Munich from 1997....is was amazing !
In the credits i saw the name Michael Prince too.
Maybee someone is interested in ?

I wish all of you a Happy new year !!!! With Love !!!

Wish it was on here...but sadly nothing airin here i have seen today
However i have the DVD
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: friendlikeme81 on December 31, 2010, 04:32:54 PM
how about this??  :lol:

[attachment=0:2rb56n42]mike prince leslie nielsen.jpg[/attachment:2rb56n42]

( I really think some clever make-up and/or photoshop artists took their hand in this..)
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Its her on January 12, 2011, 05:04:13 AM
Quote from: "ni-co-le"
I am also wondering why this album has such a simple name just:: MICHAEL: ,and i thought MJ would pick a more special name for the album.I dont know what to think but i love every song of it and i play it almost everyday ...i am also a big STEVIE WONDER listener / fan .... 8-) I havent read the Booklet yet but i will do it if i have more time...

I believe using the very familiar "Michael" instead of both names, denotes how lovingly  :D familiar his fans ARE with Michael Jackson, after 45 years. It is an endearment; the album is (marketed as) a bittersweet gift from someone we knew and loved (even though, we also KNOW he IS still alive ;)  ;) ). I don't think it is meant to be anything deceitful or hoax-related (as a "clue!") in any way. Just for love.  8-)  :)
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Its her on January 14, 2011, 06:00:30 AM
Just to be crystal clear, I meant that the use of only Mike's first name as the album title, MICHAEL (without stating which "Michael",  :oops: doi) was not a subterfuge.

Make no mistake :!: It may be marketed as a gift to his fans, but we KNOW the entire album itself, is simply STUFFED with delicious clues about this Hoax!  :o  :lol:
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: Solid121 on January 14, 2011, 07:49:30 AM
Michael Durham Prince is a member of the US rock band Legs Diamond that formed in the mid 1970's, he plays keyboards and rhythm guitar, but is not a vocalist. The band still play occasionally and are due to release a new album sometime in the not too distant future. He is a studio recording engineer and has worked with artists including Beyonce, Usher and Chris Brown, as well as Michael Jackson.

I don't see how people have made such a mountain of this subject, the booklet clearly states that the album contains 9 previously unreleased vocal tracks performed by Michael Jackson. You'll notice the only time MJ's name is listed inside the booklet as 'vocals/backing vocals by' is when there is more than one person singing either lead or backing vocals, such as the track that has James Porte as a vocalist with Michael, or Lenny Kravitz is a backing vocalist. This is to show that Michael was working on his vocal, be it backing or lead, in collaboration with someone else, as they obviously wouldn't just be able to put "Vocals; James Porte" as that would not be correct, considering it is MJ singing, but with James. Michael Durham Prince is simply the vocal recordist on the tracks that he is listed on and they need to put his job to distinguish from other jobs that you can have in a recording studio. His specaility for the tracks was just to make sure that Michael's vocals were recorded properly and that was his job, he was obviously not involved in other parts of the recording or engineering of the tracks or he would have been listed as such.

To clear this up further, check some of your other CD album booklets, not necissarily ones by MJ and look at what it says about recording and engineering. I have a CD by say Peter Gabriel and it says, recorded by and then a bunch of names of people I've never heard of. It doesn't mean they played all the instruments and sang on it, they are the studio technicians who recorded the instruments and Peter's vocals. All the band members are listed individually with the instruments they play. And even in some instances this may not be the case, but it is still obvious that it is.
Title: Re: Shocking Discovery in "MICHAEL" Booklet
Post by: ladymjc on January 14, 2011, 08:21:51 AM
He may not have wanted to take credit for it. He did that with the Sonic the Hedgehog video game.  :lol:

"According to STI director Roger Hector, Michael Jackson was brought in initially during development to compose music for the game, but no mention of his involvement was included. This was supposedly due to the scandals that arose around Jackson at the time, his involvement was removed from the title, and much reworking had to be done.[12] These claims are dubious, however, and various interviews have made it clear that any involvement Jackson may have had was done without the knowledge of Sega's executives or marketing staff, and no contracts or formal agreements had ever been made.[13] James Hansen, of Sonic Stuff Research Group, retorts that Cirocco (credited as "Scirocco" in Sonic 3) still has possession of presumably a demo version of fabled soundtrack. "I actually have "ALL" of the tracks...," he writes, "from the original humming of Michael calling in the middle of the night leaving messages, to his ideas at Record One with Matt and Bruce. - BUT, I don't think I can let any of that out to the public without permission." [13] In December 2009, Michael Jackson's composer, Brad Buxer, told French magazine Black & White that Jackson was actually involved with some of Sonic 3's compositions, supposedly not being credited because he wasn't happy with how they sounded, due to the lack of optimal sound reproduction on the Genesis. Buxer also claimed that the ending music of Sonic the Hedgehog 3 later became the basis for Jackson's single Stranger in Moscow.[1]
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