Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Dancing_Machine on December 17, 2009, 06:16:15 PM
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What I found very strange about the whole 'funeral' is that there wasn't any huge march through LA or something like that. With al the other celebs that died there was a march held. But with Michael Jackson (!) just nothing. All we got to see was what appeared a staged 'funeral' with (most of them) unknown people that looked very bored, just like his family. I even didn't get to see tears at a funeral?
I thought that we could expect a huge march with hundreds of thousands of fans saying their lasts goodby but nothing....:? I mean isn't this MICHAEL F-ING JACKSON! :shock:
This was a big turning point for me, before I was really grieving and was trying to deal with his 'death' but after the funeral I was like 'hmm things are suspicious'.
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Great Point, I hadn't thought about that, We had one with Princess Diana, And even Reality Tv Star Jade Goody had one, But nothing for The Legend MIchael Jackson.
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
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What I found very strange about the whole 'funeral' is that there wasn't any huge march through LA or something like that. With al the other celebs that died there was a march held. But with Michael Jackson (!) just nothing. All we got to see was what appeared a staged 'funeral' with (most of them) unknown people that looked very bored, just like his family. I even didn't get to see tears at a funeral?
I thought that we could expect a huge march with hundreds of thousands of fans saying their lasts goodby but nothing....:? I mean isn't this MICHAEL F-ING JACKSON! :shock:
This was a big turning point for me, before I was really grieving and was trying to deal with his 'death' but after the funeral I was like 'hmm things are suspicious'.
Agree with you and people at the funeral was laughing their ass off. They all seemed so happy to me. It was more like a wedding :D
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
:shock: OMG are those trash cans? I thought that they were some kind of lighting :shock:
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
Where? I can not see them...
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
:shock: OMG are those trash cans? I thought that they were some kind of lighting :shock:
Hmm, to me it looked like trash cans......... we need a better pic of it, it might be lights, but Ive never seen lights like that lol...and where r the cords then?
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Great Point, I hadn't thought about that, We had one with Princess Diana, And even Reality Tv Star Jade Goody had one, But nothing for The Legend MIchael Jackson.
Exactly, I don't mean to disrespect Jade Goody but if it wasn't for Jermaine I wouldn't have heared about her. And even got a big march.
And we're talking about the legendary Michael Jackson.
A couples of years ago I've wondered what would happen if Michael died, not a very plesant thought I know. I pictured the whole world upset down, and a miles long march with fans of all over the world screaming and crying for Michael. But nothing happend. :?
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That's what I thought too...as I was watching the news about the funeral there was a girl who wanted to say the last good bye to Mike she said sth like that: 'if he looked at us from above now that would break his heart...I had to be here today'. I know what she felt just too well... I find it really strange why despite the media saying that the cereomy would be held private the fans didn't come... If I had had the opportunity I would come even though I know that MJ is safe and sound:)
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
:shock: OMG are those trash cans? I thought that they were some kind of lighting :shock:
Hmm, to me it looked like trash cans......... we need a better pic of it, it might be lights, but Ive never seen lights like that lol...and where r the cords then?
Those seem like the lights that give light to the sky but what's the point of the lights there? I don't get it. And the cords can be under the overlay. But if those are trash cans that has a very important meaning I think like "this whole thing you watch on your tv is trash just like the entire media." Maybe? what do you think?
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
I can't see the trashcans to be honest.
But it's interesting that they seem to put trashcans in most of the pictures.
Like they want to put out all the things we see as being trash, and not to believe everything we see in the media
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[OMG are those trash cans? I thought that they were some kind of lighting /quote][/b]
:lol: Ok, maybe this wasn't meant to be funny. But I can't help it. :lol:
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Dancing_machine, That is my point, A reality tv "Star" has people linning the streets for her funeral, she was only a reality tv star, Michael was The King Of Pop, A legendary recording artist and nothing for him??? I Don't get it?? :roll: :?:
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Those aren't Trash Cans, they are lighting, look at the bottom they are rounded.
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Those aren't Trash Cans, they are lighting, look at the bottom they are rounded.
trash canes can be different.
we need to find a better picture of it. I dont know why would they put lights right next to his casket to light the sky? Trash canes in this case will make more sence to me, lol
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I dont know why would they put lights right next to his casket to light the sky?
:lol: ROFL!
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Dancing_machine, That is my point, A reality tv "Star" has people linning the streets for her funeral, she was only a reality tv star, Michael was The King Of Pop, A legendary recording artist and nothing for him??? I Don't get it?? :roll: :?:
This is big evidence of this being a hoax.
Cause the family couldn't have got the streets blocked unnecessary if no one died.
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
ARE LIGHTS, LOOK THE REFLECTION ON THE TREES... ;)
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
ARE LIGHTS, LOOK THE REFLECTION ON THE TREES... ;)
I think so too.
Or else those would've been some stylish trashcans :lol:
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Those aren't Trash Cans, they are lighting, look at the bottom they are rounded.
trash canes can be different.
we need to find a better picture of it. I dont know why would they put lights right next to his casket to light the sky? Trash canes in this case will make more sence to me, lol
There were helicopters in the sky. could they be for it? Trash cans make more sense to me but those still look like lights to me :)
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I dont know why would they put lights right next to his casket to light the sky?
:lol: ROFL!
:lol: :lol: Maybe they put them to give light to the helicopters and to make them fall lol Kill the media :lol: :lol:
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I dont know why would they put lights right next to his casket to light the sky?
:lol: ROFL!
:lol: :lol: Maybe they put them to give light to the helicopters and to make them fall lol Kill the media :lol: :lol:
Blinding laser beams :lol:
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ok guys, I found a video: and it IS lights! There is 4 of them!
Here is the link look at 3:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICCKauqV1YU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICCKauqV1YU)
But this vid also shows very clear that there IS a building behind the casket and its very close to it, so Im pretty positive there was 2 "takes" for this funeral event. Or whatever the hell it was lol
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Blinding laser beams :lol:
Exactly lol :lol: :lol:
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ok guys, I found a video: and it IS lights! There is 4 of them!
Here is the link look at 3:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICCKauqV1YU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICCKauqV1YU)
But this vid also shows very clear that there IS a building behind the casket and its very close to it, so Im pretty positive there was 2 "takes" for this funeral event. Or whatever the hell it was lol
yep thank you and definitely there were 2 different places :)
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[youtube:2oblnmlw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQi_Yqx8YIw[/youtube:2oblnmlw]
Why wasn't it like this? Michaels was not at all like you would expect from the King of Pop.
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I think i may need a padded room, but look closely to the right side of the crown, the flowers and tree, does anyone else see a shape of a face in what looks like a white mask, and to the right of that, what looks like a brown bird in flight. it prob nothing. :?:
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HARLEY, thank you for the YT vid of James Brown.
KINGWILLRETURN, please explain/show more of what you're trying to say.
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if there were indeed two different places (and I believe so), maybe it is also the reason why the family was so late for the "official" funeral...
the 1st stage seems taken during the daylight, then maybe later on, they realised that it might be too risky to do the official part in a different place, especially, as despite the ban on helicopters, i recall some of the media got to the air above (remember Jarmaine, i think, was very upset about breach of a ban), and maybe this is why they decided to wait until dark... not to risk someone sees differences? although i do not know if the original timing was to happen during daylight or not?
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[youtube:3ke6t375]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQi_Yqx8YIw[/youtube:3ke6t375]
Why wasn't it like this? Michaels was not at all like you would expect from the King of Pop.
Yep that would be like that if it wasn't a hoax :)
I remember when I was watching the memorial and the tv channels in my country gave it live too. And in one of them there was the producer who brought Michael to my country and he was watching and making comments about the memorial. And when the memorial was done, he said that he didn't like it and it didn't fit with the King! He was expecting something bigger with real friends of him. So the funeral and memorial doesn't fit for the King of Pop, no way!
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I think i may need a padded room, but look closely to the right side of the crown, the flowers and tree, does anyone else see a shape of a face in what looks like a white mask, and to the right of that, what looks like a brown bird in flight. it prob nothing. :?:
i see those things, but it´s probably nothing...
:?
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
Where? I can not see them...
here is a lighter photo:
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7618/fullscreencapture121720.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/fullscreencapture121720.jpg/)
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here is a lighter photo:
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7618/fullscreencapture121720.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/fullscreencapture121720.jpg/)
Oh, Thank you! :D I can see it now!
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A couple of things I wanted to comment on about the OP's info, regarding no tears at the funeral...we didn't actually see the funeral. We saw people arriving for the funeral. We saw people talking (and yes smiling and laughing) before the funeral. But we did not see the funeral itself. The live footage of the service was cut off the moment the hearse pulled up. So if there were tears at the funeral service, we don't know because we didn't see the actual funeral service.
And regarding the smiling and laughing...I guess I am the only one (besides all the funeral guests that day) who's ever smiled and laughed immediately before or after a funeral. No one else has ever done that? No one? Ever? I did it before and after my grandmother's funeral...and before and after my grandfather's funeral...and before and after my husband's grandma's funeral...and before and after my father's funeral. People are talking and sharing memories, and sometimes those memories evoke smiles, and even laughter. It does happen, especially at a time when nerves and emotions are very much on the surface and very raw. And it is a very welcome and comforting thing to do when you are grieving.
I do not believe for one second that everyone at the funeral service was in on the hoax. That's just not possible. Yet many people are inferring as much by saying that their smiles and/or laughter are proof of the hoax, or proof that the funeral was fake. Smiles and laughter are not proof of anything, in my opinion, other than that they were having a moment of levity on a very difficult day. After all, most of the people in attendance could NOT have been in on the hoax--so for all intents and purposes, they were there to bury MJ. And that means their emotions, sad, happy, indifferent, or otherwise, were very real.
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Hi, I believe MJ is alive, but since we are trying to cover all angles. Do you think the family felt the fans had the chance to say good bye at the memorial and therefore didn't make a big thing of the funeral?
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A couple of things I wanted to comment on about the OP's info, regarding no tears at the funeral...we didn't actually see the funeral. We saw people arriving for the funeral. We saw people talking (and yes smiling and laughing) before the funeral. But we did not see the funeral itself. The live footage of the service was cut off the moment the hearse pulled up. So if there were tears at the funeral service, we don't know because we didn't see the actual funeral service.
And regarding the smiling and laughing...I guess I am the only one (besides all the funeral guests that day) who's ever smiled and laughed immediately before or after a funeral. No one else has ever done that? No one? Ever? I did it before and after my grandmother's funeral...and before and after my grandfather's funeral...and before and after my husband's grandma's funeral...and before and after my father's funeral. People are talking and sharing memories, and sometimes those memories evoke smiles, and even laughter. It does happen, especially at a time when nerves and emotions are very much on the surface and very raw. And it is a very welcome and comforting thing to do when you are grieving.
I do not believe for one second that everyone at the funeral service was in on the hoax. That's just not possible. Yet many people are inferring as much by saying that their smiles and/or laughter are proof of the hoax, or proof that the funeral was fake. Smiles and laughter are not proof of anything, in my opinion, other than that they were having a moment of levity on a very difficult day. After all, most of the people in attendance could NOT have been in on the hoax--so for all intents and purposes, they were there to bury MJ. And that means their emotions, sad, happy, indifferent, or otherwise, were very real.
I agree with you!
We didn't see the funeral it self,just saw people arriving or waiting the funeral. So we don't know whether people were crying or not in the funeral.
I have a tragic experience. My father passed away 3 years ago. I didn't cry all the time in funeral or burial. When I met my relatives or my friends, I smiled. Because I thought my dad was with God, smile made me comfortable a little.
And I don't think lots of people can keep a big secret for a long time,either.
There are many clues MJ could be alive and you guys are very brilliant, did a good job.
But we have to notice people have diff emotions, resposes and complex feelings about one thing, so there's no right answer.
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Those aren't Trash Cans, they are lighting, look at the bottom they are rounded.
i agree.. they are lights.. like spot lights.. look at the the tree's they are lighting them up on the leaves!! to give them a glow..
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I think that most of the fans cried much more than the family... Their emotions were real! I cried a lot more than the whole Jackson 4 taken altogether! Besides, watch all the trial videos, with the family bringing Mike in and out of court - the family shows WHOLE LOTTA MORE emotions than during the funeral! They behave differently! Their emotions are honest.
As to the procession - yes, there definitely should be something like that... The only explanation that comes to my mind is that the family, authorities whoever, were afraid of all the fans hysteria, were afraid that the crowd may destroy the casket, or become dangerous to the members of the family... They weren't able to pay for the appropriate amount of security guards to protect them during a procession...
But anyway, I think that the fans just simply deserve to have a chance to say goodbye to their idol... Or at least have a chance to visit his grave which nobody knows where it is...
Of course, all the above, clearly points to the fact that this was just a hoax... ;)
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What I found very strange about the whole 'funeral' is that there wasn't any huge march through LA or something like that. With al the other celebs that died there was a march held. But with Michael Jackson (!) just nothing. All we got to see was what appeared a staged 'funeral' with (most of them) unknown people that looked very bored, just like his family. I even didn't get to see tears at a funeral?
I thought that we could expect a huge march with hundreds of thousands of fans saying their lasts goodby but nothing....:? I mean isn't this MICHAEL F-ING JACKSON! :shock:
This was a big turning point for me, before I was really grieving and was trying to deal with his 'death' but after the funeral I was like 'hmm things are suspicious'.
I never thought it was strange, that he didn't have a march, because it would have been too dangerous. He's not any superstar - he's the most famous person on this planet, with the craziest fans you can imagine, and the craziest haters you can imagine...
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I think that most of the fans cried much more than the family... Their emotions were real! I cried a lot more than the whole Jackson 4 taken altogether! Besides, watch all the trial videos, with the family bringing Mike in and out of court - the family shows WHOLE LOTTA MORE emotions than during the funeral! They behave differently! Their emotions are honest.
As to the procession - yes, there definitely should be something like that... The only explanation that comes to my mind is that the family, authorities whoever, were afraid of all the fans hysteria, were afraid that the crowd may destroy the casket, or become dangerous to the members of the family... They weren't able to pay for the appropriate amount of security guards to protect them during a procession...
But anyway, I think that the fans just simply deserve to have a chance to say goodbye to their idol... Or at least have a chance to visit his grave which nobody knows where it is...
Of course, all the above, clearly points to the fact that this was just a hoax... ;)
I said the exact same thing ones. We as fans have cried more and were heartbroken than the whole family together.
During the trail they showed their true emotions and nothing seemed staged or rehearsed.
Regardeless of the fact that this is the King Of Pop, it's also Michael Jackson the normal human being they lost. I would died myself out of sorrow if it was my brother/son/father.
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He should have had a march all along the city of LA by the fans ,thats what a King like he is deserves ,but no just a strange memorial is al he got ...that sounds like a HOAX and if its not a HOAX then i dont know what to think about it anymore. I didnt like it at all what i saw on july 7 2009.
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He should have had a march all along the city of LA by the fans ,thats what a King like he is deserves ,but no just a strange memorial is al he got ...that sounds like a HOAX and if its not a HOAX then i dont know what to think about it anymore. I didnt like it at all what i saw on july 7 2009.
We didn't get to see a tribute/funeral like he deserves and is appropriate for the KING OF MUSIC
So this addes with all the other strange things can only mean 1 thing: Hoax :geek:
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Blinding laser beams :lol:
Exactly lol :lol: :lol:
Maybe not blinding ... but helpfull for media laser beams... they say they didn't wanted any media around the "funeral" ... forgive me to say this but:
WHY ARE YOU HAVING A FUNERAL OUTSIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF A STREET, (specially Michael's funeral) IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY PRESS AROUND?
LOL that really DOESN'T make sence to me... AT ALL! :roll: :mrgreen:
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James Brown died on december 10th, 2006, 3 days later he had a memorial services at the Apollo Theater with an OPEN casket !! I'm not saying I wanted to see Michael's Body (because the casket was empty :lol:) but if you compare the memorial of JB and MJ, it makes you wonder !
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You know. I have thought about the same things all of you have thought about. LIke , what actually went on after the cameras shut off. We will never know. But I did see one picture where Elizabeth Taylo's eyes were bloodshot from crying. Also Lisa Marie was very emotionally upset over MJ. IDK anymore.I do believe that the memorial was meant for the fans and that is why they had those online tickets. A march would have probably cost the state of cali a lot of money (Hell they were already complaining about the memorial!)But it was I think Randy who was upset about the helicopters flying over! But I was like get real!! this is MJ!! Also , its not like the media signed contracts saying OK! We promise we won't have air traffic over MJ"s burial!!! If that was the case (so private) then why wait sooooo long to bury MJ ! Then they kept announcing dates to the public and media(how many dates they went through before deciding when to bury MJ?)
******** BUt you know? No matter what anyone says. I still say that we should have been given a chance to view MJ's body! There is absolultey (in my opinion ) no excuse for this. As he is/was one of the world's biggests entertainers!! ELvis, James Brown, (both open casket) Yeah I know many people say (and they are right!) that the family do not have to display their loved one's body to the public. BUT........it is the norm here in the U.S>. hence the only reason not to display is if the loved one has requested not to be displayed or.......the mortician just could not make the person viewable! I mean MJ had to have been looking normal because would they let the kids see him if he wasnt or would the family themselves not want to see him? I dont know anymore. To me it hurt when they did not allow us to view. Not have millions of fans lined up but maybe on television like James! Where we could actually see him. :(
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A couple of things I wanted to comment on about the OP's info, regarding no tears at the funeral...we didn't actually see the funeral. We saw people arriving for the funeral. We saw people talking (and yes smiling and laughing) before the funeral. But we did not see the funeral itself. The live footage of the service was cut off the moment the hearse pulled up. So if there were tears at the funeral service, we don't know because we didn't see the actual funeral service.
And regarding the smiling and laughing...I guess I am the only one (besides all the funeral guests that day) who's ever smiled and laughed immediately before or after a funeral. No one else has ever done that? No one? Ever? I did it before and after my grandmother's funeral...and before and after my grandfather's funeral...and before and after my husband's grandma's funeral...and before and after my father's funeral. People are talking and sharing memories, and sometimes those memories evoke smiles, and even laughter. It does happen, especially at a time when nerves and emotions are very much on the surface and very raw. And it is a very welcome and comforting thing to do when you are grieving.
I do not believe for one second that everyone at the funeral service was in on the hoax. That's just not possible. Yet many people are inferring as much by saying that their smiles and/or laughter are proof of the hoax, or proof that the funeral was fake. Smiles and laughter are not proof of anything, in my opinion, other than that they were having a moment of levity on a very difficult day. After all, most of the people in attendance could NOT have been in on the hoax--so for all intents and purposes, they were there to bury MJ. And that means their emotions, sad, happy, indifferent, or otherwise, were very real.
I agree. People show their emotions in different ways. And we didn't see the whole funeral but what about the memorial? We watched all of it and I was about to faint because of crying and there was NO TEAR on none of the family members. Even there was no tear on Paris' eyes when she made her speech and she didn't use past tense about her dad. That was odd.
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I've done a close up of what i have seen in the photo, i cannot make it bigger.
It looks to me like a face in a bandit mask, and a brown bird.
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I thought someone said Paris was backstage crying at the memorial?You are soooo right when Paris did that speech! I watched that part over and over.... and to me I did not see any tears...... and she did speak of MJ in present tense..... shoot!! After Auntie Janet practically shoved her to the microphone!! lOL! loL!! :lol:
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James Brown died on december 10th, 2006, 3 days later he had a memorial services at the Apollo Theater with an OPEN casket !! I'm not saying I wanted to see Michael's Body (because the casket was empty :lol:) but if you compare the memorial of JB and MJ, it makes you wonder !
Also compared to Elvis' funeral it was nothing - I believe Elvis had an open casket and a procession through the streets lined with fans.
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Dancing_machine, That is my point, A reality tv "Star" has people linning the streets for her funeral, she was only a reality tv star, Michael was The King Of Pop, A legendary recording artist and nothing for him??? I Don't get it?? :roll: :?:
This is big evidence of this being a hoax.
Cause the family couldn't have got the streets blocked unnecessary if no one died.
Good point! :D
They were telling fans for days not to come down there because they would be kept away. Weren't people who didn't have tickets kept 2 blocks aways? They really made sure to keep people away from the memorial. Access was under strict control.
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Does any one of you find this "photo" to be......QUESTIONABLE?! I mean, really? This looks SO "staged"!
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I remember seeing this picture a few weeks ago and just reinforced my believe in the hoax.This looks like a promo picture for a theatrical play :shock: :lol: :lol:
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It does look strange. Everyone looks happy and posing with smiles?
And in my family there has never been a time when a photo was taken with a "dead" relative's photo at a funeral. Maybe the traditions are different in US?
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
The "Trash cans" are spotlights...
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Yep that is pretty crazy! I mean no absolutley not the norm in the U.S. Why in the bleep would they take a picture at MJ's funeral especially one like that one? NO WAY? And the family allowed it! They look happy as hell! Just happy........... I am just like looks strange. Then they have the nerve to be posing with flowers like the ones MJ has in his hands!!But you know what some people say to some people funerals are like a celebration of life! Just like when someone leaves the world they rejoice and when someone is born they mourn? IDK either way! :evil:
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Yep that is pretty crazy! I mean no absolutley not the norm in the U.S. Why in the bleep would they take a picture at MJ's funeral especially one like that one? NO WAY? And the family allowed it! They look happy as hell! Just happy........... I am just like looks strange. Then they have the nerve to be posing with flowers like the ones MJ has in his hands!!But you know what some people say to some people funerals are like a celebration of life! Just like when someone leaves the world they rejoice and when someone is born they mourn? IDK either way! :evil:
remember:
you only see what i want you to see, how i want you to see and when i want you to see... or something like that, sorry for my english!
who post this picture, this picture is from the funeral, so someone from inside must post it in some site... ;)
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Blinding laser beams :lol:
Exactly lol :lol: :lol:
Maybe not blinding ... but helpfull for media laser beams... they say they didn't wanted any media around the "funeral" ... forgive me to say this but:
WHY ARE YOU HAVING A FUNERAL OUTSIDE IN THE MIDDLE OF A STREET, (specially Michael's funeral) IF YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY PRESS AROUND?
LOL that really DOESN'T make sence to me... AT ALL! :roll: :mrgreen:
I have always wondered why you would have a funeral in the dark on a full moon?
and like you said if you want it private why have a live feed for the first bit?
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I'm kicking myself, because I saw another picture from the Funeral, that shows Blanket arriving, getting out of the Limo and looking into one of these guys faces, with a knowing LOOK or something......and the guy is smiling "back" ! It was totally, inappropriate, in that SETTING and ties into this phony, staged Burial thing.
I posted it on the old MDHD and did'nt SAVE IT! (I'll try to look for it):(
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LOL that really DOESN'T make sence to me... AT ALL! :roll: :mrgreen:[/quote]
I have always wondered why you would have a funeral in the dark on a full moon?
and like you said if you want it private why have a live feed for the first bit?[/quote]
I'll have to see if I can find the source, but I know somewhere I read that it was suppose to be a sunset funeral but that the Jackson family ran late. I'll see what I can find.
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I posted this on MJHD and it was a little hard for me to find this one so hopefully it works for everyone.
The female in the pink dress right at the beginning getting out of the black SUV, watch her facial expression at :20. Her face gives an odd expression, not one that I have seen at any funeral that I have been to.
Just thought it was odd and wanted to repost for those who haven't seen that section yet.
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Another odd thing about the funural:
I think it is very strange that there are no children, only Michaels Children are present.
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Another odd thing about the funural:
I think it is very strange that there are no children, only Michaels Children are present.
Your right. :?
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Another odd thing about the funural:
I think it is very strange that there are no children, only Michaels Children are present.
It could be just because a cementery is an unsuitable place for children.
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I'm kicking myself, because I saw another picture from the Funeral, that shows Blanket arriving, getting out of the Limo and looking into one of these guys faces, with a knowing LOOK or something......and the guy is smiling "back" ! It was totally, inappropriate, in that SETTING and ties into this phony, staged Burial thing.
I posted it on the old MDHD and did'nt SAVE IT! (I'll try to look for it):(
that would be interesting to see...
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Another odd thing about the funural:
I think it is very strange that there are no children, only Michaels Children are present.
You mean the family members? Yep, that's strange :?
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Naaaaah! I think all children are welcome. Yep this is really strange! You are right I have never been to a funeral at night! When I was watching it I thought I was going to hear some howling or something!!! LOL! LOL! :lol: Give me a break.
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Indeed No Children .... :o
Not all the children in this big family are still very young I think.
Very weird again!!!
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
Prob coz his death is a load of rubbish!! corny i know!!
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Its highly normal kids attend a funural...Michael loves kids and kids loves Michael..
It is very very strange.
The reason could be... Michael doesn't want to confuse children, or make them feel sad while it isn't neccesary.
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:D well lets be honest everything was strange about this sO calleD funeral it would be easier if we called this thread WHAT WAS NORMAL ABOUT THIS SO CALLED FUNERAL the answer easy NOTHING :lol:
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:D well lets be honest everything was strange about this sO calleD funeral it would be easier if we called this thread WHAT WAS NORMAL ABOUT THIS SO CALLED FUNERAL the answer easy NOTHING :lol:
LOL true!
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Michaels family was huge. Where were all the great numbers of family members? Aunts, Uncles, Cousins, Nieces, Nephews etc. There was just the immediate family members and lots of celebrities. I have seen a photo of the Jackson family gathered together in the past and believe me it is huge, would have taken up all one side of the funeral seating at least. All family members should be invited and attend a funeral to show their respects. Where were they all? I found this very weird.
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Also the fact that his OWN PARENTS were late!!! What kind of parents are late to their own son's funeral? Not saying his parents are bad people, but think about it.
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Another odd thing about the funural:
I think it is very strange that there are no children, only Michaels Children are present.
Your right. :?
I never thought of that. I dont agree that a funeral is unfitting for children, if his own children was allowed to say their goodbyes, why wasnt Jermaines and everyone elses children there to say their goodbyes? Michael was their uncle. We saw alot of peoples faced we didnt recognize.. But not the Jackson siblings children.
Now that I think about it, I think the reason why his nieces and newphews wasnt present at funeral/memorial is because maybe they couldnt keep the secret quiet and behave infront of the cameras. Think about it. Michaels kids is another story, 3 kids who behave.. But imagine 20 kids and everyone knows their uncle is alive and they are at a fake funeral.. That would be chaotic.
OR the Jacksons havent told their children the death is a hoax and they didnt want to put them through a fake funeral and have them think its real to then discover they've been Punk'd. That would be traumatic.
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Also the fact that his OWN PARENTS were late!!! What kind of parents are late to their own son's funeral? Not saying his parents are bad people, but think about it.
Last funeral I went to, the family member and the deceased girls parents were there before the guests prepearing the stage and flower arrangements and greeted all guests when they arrived. I thought thats how it was usually done. Family arrives before guests.
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Michaels family was huge. Where were all the great numbers of family members? Aunts, Uncles, Cousins, Nieces, Nephews etc. There was just the immediate family members and lots of celebrities. I have seen a photo of the Jackson family gathered together in the past and believe me it is huge, would have taken up all one side of the funeral seating at least. All family members should be invited and attend a funeral to show their respects. Where were they all? I found this very weird.
I'm still torn on this, but this is one of the most interesting perspectives, I have heard. My goodness, they would have been there...... 8-)
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JOE was 70 minutes LATE !!!!
Did you read Lastoyas Tweeds?? Also very weird
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[quoteOyan » Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:21 pm
Harleyblonde wrote:
Michaels family was huge. Where were all the great numbers of family members? Aunts, Uncles, Cousins, Nieces, Nephews etc. There was just the immediate family members and lots of celebrities. I have seen a photo of the Jackson family gathered together in the past and believe me it is huge, would have taken up all one side of the funeral seating at least. All family members should be invited and attend a funeral to show their respects. Where were they all? I found this very weird.][/quote]
Harley,
You are right!! i have seen his family and it is very huge. Very much so. You are right! Where were they? Where were they are the memorial? I definitely didn't remember seeing none of them except the immediate family which included his brothers, sisters, and children and of course, his mother.
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What I thought was interesting, is that why do they have a trash cans next to his casket?
:shock: OMG are those trash cans? I thought that they were some kind of lighting :shock:
Hmm, to me it looked like trash cans......... we need a better pic of it, it might be lights, but Ive never seen lights like that lol...and where r the cords then?
They are spotlights for the trees. They use those kind of spotlights in movie set and concerts. Hmmmm....
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Also the fact that his OWN PARENTS were late!!! What kind of parents are late to their own son's funeral? Not saying his parents are bad people, but think about it.
The main reason is why they were so late??
They just have to do everything, regarding Michael, in a very strange way :geek:
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They are spotlights for the trees. They use those kind of spotlights in movie set and concerts. Hmmmm....
Why use those kinds of lights instead of normal lightning? I dont think Forrest Lawn use these kind of lights normally. Maybe we should look in this aswell.
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Also the fact that his OWN PARENTS were late!!! What kind of parents are late to their own son's funeral? Not saying his parents are bad people, but think about it.
Last funeral I went to, the family member and the deceased girls parents were there before the guests prepearing the stage and flower arrangements and greeted all guests when they arrived. I thought thats how it was usually done. Family arrives before guests.
Yep, I agree. In fact his parents were over an hour late....making everyone wait for them. Can you imagine...making Liz taylor WAIT for you for something? HELL NO!!!
But yes, family usually arrives first.
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Also the fact that his OWN PARENTS were late!!! What kind of parents are late to their own son's funeral? Not saying his parents are bad people, but think about it.
Last funeral I went to, the family member and the deceased girls parents were there before the guests prepearing the stage and flower arrangements and greeted all guests when they arrived. I thought thats how it was usually done. Family arrives before guests.
Yep, I agree. In fact his parents were over an hour late....making everyone wait for them. Can you imagine...making Liz taylor WAIT for you for something? HELL NO!!!
But yes, family usually arrives first.
hahaha i so agree on that!! it's not nice to let people wait!!! you should be there when they arrive?? i was just thinking...maybe catherine was feeling sick or something, that would make a little sense, but no....all we heard was that she didn't even want to attend :? why oh why???? that is WEIRD!!!! how can someone stay home while your son's funeral??? what could you do during that time?? sorry, that's what i think and i can't help it!
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I must say that the so called Funeral was nothing more than a sherade like the Memorial.
Seriously, the King of Pop would have ppl lined up and down the streets for miles if he were truly dead. I believe the ppl outside of the hospital were actors/actresses too. None of what happened with MJ having suffered cardiac arrest is reality. One more thing is that I believe he was DaveDave, Blonde at Memorial and Hatman at the funeral. It reminds me of the characters he portrayed in Ghosts. Just my thoughts! Keep the Faith!
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Does any one of you find this "photo" to be......QUESTIONABLE?! I mean, really? This looks SO "staged"!
The most strange about this picture is THE FAKT!!!!! that these people are the dancers of this is it...here is more evidence about this. Timor (this is it dancer) shows a lot on his page. And this picture is a little bit older. Take a look on this page maybe someone can post some pictures on this side. I haven´t find out how to do it.
http://t-moreworld.com/site/photos/albu ... is-it.html (http://t-moreworld.com/site/photos/album/72157622563204585/a-sneak-peak-during-this-is-it.html)
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I must say that the so called Funeral was nothing more than a sherade like the Memorial.
Seriously, the King of Pop would have ppl lined up and down the streets for miles if he were truly dead. I believe the ppl outside of the hospital were actors/actresses too. None of what happened with MJ having suffered cardiac arrest is reality. One more thing is that I believe he was DaveDave, Blonde at Memorial and Hatman at the funeral. It reminds me of the characters he portrayed in Ghosts. Just my thoughts! Keep the Faith!
i totally agree with all you say...
this is exactly what i think...
if anyone still believes mjs still alive really need to open their eyes....
:) :)
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[attachment=0:1vrj60n6]dancer at the memorial and funeral.JPG[/attachment:1vrj60n6]
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[attachment=0:npqs8eog]Timor Steffens.JPG[/attachment:npqs8eog]
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gott if I these pictures sees ...... the people, nevertheless, celebrate.
This can be no bereavement :x
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Question. Where are they in that photo with the television? I mean ummmm..... everybody loooks sooooo happy! Heck MJ was probably back there! LOL! :lol:
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OK....... who is the person standing behind timor off to the left of him in all white? ANd I do mean white. :) Also... ummmmm...... what is that on the floor beside the guy who is in front of the tele? Just curious.
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OK....... who is the person standing behind timor off to the left of him in all white? ANd I do mean white. :) Also... ummmmm...... what is that on the floor beside the guy who is in front of the tele? Just curious.
the "person in white" looks to me like a mannequin with brests and a wig hanging on it, lol
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They are spotlights for the trees. They use those kind of spotlights in movie set and concerts. Hmmmm....
Why use those kinds of lights instead of normal lightning? I dont think Forrest Lawn use these kind of lights normally. Maybe we should look in this aswell.
There was a lot of special lights around on the funerals, if u look at some vids, u will notice. And it was not only for that part where casket was but it was lighting up the guests! They prolly did it because they knew it will be filmed and they needed to put on a great "show" :)
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The lighting and background, in this picture, reminds me of the burial ?!
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I was thinking the same thing. Why are there are so few people at the funeral? So many of the chairs are empty. Don't you think that's strange?
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why the picture sais "a sneak peak during this is it"? why??? this is the funeral!!! or the funeral is a part of this si it??? :?
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why the picture sais "a sneak peak during this is it"? why??? this is the funeral!!! or the funeral is a part of this si it??? :?
So this is a big question and why the dancer have played at the funeral (actors not real people who have worked there), were they i thruth rehearsing for this is it and prepare for the media death of michael jackson. I believe yes. Timor mentioned in an interview that Michael is not dead for him when the reporter has asked him why he is talking about michael in present tense.
Kenny Ortega huging a dancer
[attachment=1:9uefl78j]AEG Shef.JPG[/attachment:9uefl78j]
Compare the costume from the victory tour (right) to those which the dancers wear at the funeral.
[attachment=0:9uefl78j]gg58001,1260214469,michael funeral.jpg[/attachment:9uefl78j]
I come to the same conclusion as always this are to many weird things to believe that MJ death was normal. I am a total realist and do not believe that michael is dead at all! I do believe that this was a show and still is. I doubt that michael will ever come back again. This is a comeback in his own way and this is really it. We maybe will never see michael again on stage!
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Another interesting photo.
(http://www.blsart.com/photos/46.jpg)
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why the picture sais "a sneak peak during this is it"? why??? this is the funeral!!! or the funeral is a part of this si it??? :?
So this is a big question and why the dancer have played at the funeral (actors not real people who have worked there), were they i thruth rehearsing for this is it and prepare for the media death of michael jackson. I believe yes. Timor mentioned in an interview that Michael is not dead for him when the reporter has asked him why he is talking about michael in present tense.
Kenny Ortega huging a dancer
[attachment=1:fubcouez]AEG Shef.JPG[/attachment:fubcouez]
Compare the costume from the victory tour (right) to those which the dancers wear at the funeral.
[attachment=0:fubcouez]gg58001,1260214469,michael funeral.jpg[/attachment:fubcouez]
I come to the same conclusion as always this are to many weird things to believe that MJ death was normal. I am a total realist and do not believe that michael is dead at all! I do believe that this was a show and still is. I doubt that michael will ever come back again. This is a comeback in his own way and this is really it. We maybe will never see michael again on stage!
kinda stupid to ask, but how do you get a pic of a internet page? :oops: I always make a pic with my camera :oops: but i want to do it like you do! :D
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kinda stupid to ask, but how do you get a pic of a internet page? :oops: I always make a pic with my camera :oops: but i want to do it like you do! :D
Press the CTRL key and the PrtScren key at the same time. That makes a screen shot.
Paste it into Paint (if you have a Windows based PC, Paint comes preinstalled on almost all of them. It's under Start--> All Programs--> Accessories. Then you can edit it/crop it in Paint.
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kinda stupid to ask, but how do you get a pic of a internet page? :oops: I always make a pic with my camera :oops: but i want to do it like you do! :D
Press the CTRL key and the PrtScren key at the same time. That makes a screen shot.
Paste it into Paint (if you have a Windows based PC, Paint comes preinstalled on almost all of them. It's under Start--> All Programs--> Accessories. Then you can edit it/crop it in Paint.
thank you hun ! i get it now :D
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Another interesting photo.
(http://www.blsart.com/photos/46.jpg)
Wow thank you !!!
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Another interesting photo.
(http://www.blsart.com/photos/46.jpg)
Wow thank you !!!
whos that??
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I don´t know. But it should be no problem to find out
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I don´t know. But it should be no problem to find out
That's the man some people thought it was Jack Isaac....But I don't know who he really is
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"Michael Jackson's family and close friends said a private goodbye to the pop icon at an early morning ceremony at Forest Lawn cemetery, a few hours before fans gathered at the Staples Center for the public tribute. The private funeral took place in an auditorium at the Forest Lawn cemetery in the Hollywood Hills and lasted about half an hour. Then Jackson's casket, covered with red, white and yellow roses, was put into a hearse, and the motorcade traveled on freeways shut down by police during rush hour to the memorial. (July 7, 2009 - Photo by Photo Agency)"
Okay, so another information...
Source: http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/S8pv-p1B ... el+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/S8pv-p1B7FP/Family+Friends+Michael+Jackson+Funeral/4SFVpYC7Vqa/Prince+Michael+Jackson)
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Source: http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/S8pv-p1B ... el+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/S8pv-p1B7FP/Family+Friends+Michael+Jackson+Funeral/4SFVpYC7Vqa/Prince+Michael+Jackson)
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I'm just posting random pics, in case ANYTHING happens to "stand out" to anyone (some of may see things that others "don't.")
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2009/11/mj4.jpg)
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(http://chikamuna.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/randy-jackson.jpg)
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/101/400x400bd/101758_janet-jackson-arrives-at-the-funeral-for-her-brother-michael-jackson-glendale-calif-sept-3-2009.jpg)
What's the SMILE for?!
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(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tlIqK7T4HxA2kM:http://api.ning.com/files/nBSqziq4HkY0BwtY6rJ-Vv3NOHbpsBvES2F4SkObPRxYbwgogh12noHSojKyIxhMccwfZVN7bWtnWD5kcxi37BziR-fjO6b2/top_ten_jackson_funeral.jpg)
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(http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/090904/GAL-09Sep04-2566/media/PHO-09Sep04-176686.jpg)
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She doesn't want to be part of WHAT?
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I'm just posting random pics, in case ANYTHING happens to "stand out" to anyone (some of may see things that others "don't.")
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2009/11/mj4.jpg)
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/101/400x400bd/101758_janet-jackson-arrives-at-the-funeral-for-her-brother-michael-jackson-glendale-calif-sept-3-2009.jpg)
What's the SMILE for?!
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(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tlIqK7T4HxA2kM:http://api.ning.com/files/nBSqziq4HkY0BwtY6rJ-Vv3NOHbpsBvES2F4SkObPRxYbwgogh12noHSojKyIxhMccwfZVN7bWtnWD5kcxi37BziR-fjO6b2/top_ten_jackson_funeral.jpg)
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(http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/090904/GAL-09Sep04-2566/media/PHO-09Sep04-176686.jpg)
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(http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/liz-taylor.jpg)
She doesn't want to be part of WHAT?
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Whoopla =
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[attachment=0:1fc2j27r]Timor Steffens.JPG[/attachment:1fc2j27r]
To me the background of this picture looks like Neverland.... :?
I saw the others pictures with the same background and it does remind me of Neverland.
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[attachment=0:93mh8ma1]Timor Steffens.JPG[/attachment:93mh8ma1]
To me the background of this picture looks like Neverland.... :?
I saw the others pictures with the same background and it does remind me of Neverland.
what picture? :)
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[attachment=0:3q9xk7uv]Timor Steffens.JPG[/attachment:3q9xk7uv]
To me the background of this picture looks like Neverland.... :?
I saw the others pictures with the same background and it does remind me of Neverland.
what picture? :)
This one
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=1044)
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To me the background of this picture looks like Neverland.... :?
I saw the others pictures with the same background and it does remind me of Neverland.
This one
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=1044)[/quote]
It is a good Idea maybe you can search for it in the home movies of mj. It is backstage at the funeral pay attention on the green "carpet" the same as at the funeral in Forest Lawn, why put it there inside...and where does it then start and end..(just for interest)
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[attachment=0:1spukrf4]mj4.jpg[/attachment:1spukrf4]
Hm there it written: In Memory of Michael (then the name: Elizabeth/Diana Ross)
Thank you for for celebrating the life with us
The JACKSON Family
Forest Lawn (cannot read)
(cannot read) Holly Terrace (is it right?)
Thirsday September 3, 2009 7:00pm (am I right?)
And the rest I cannot read...can someone help
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Hello.
I think it says:
Thank you for celebrating his life with us.
Forest Lawn - Glendale
Great Mausoleum - Holly Terrace
September 3, 2009 - 7:00pm
Upon arrival at Forest Lawn-Glendale please present this card.
This Invitation is non-transferable and may only be used by the recipient named above.
Wow, it sounds like a ticket to an event more than a funeral announcement! :?
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It is a good Idea maybe you can search for it in the home movies of mj. It is backstage at the funeral pay attention on the green "carpet" the same as at the funeral in Forest Lawn, why put it there inside...and where does it then start and end..(just for interest)
I tried looking for the same background but I couldn't find the same one in the Neverland Range.
Oh well it was just a thought ;)
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On the Timor photo, look above what looks like Mike in white with black hair, do you spot anything???? what looks like a TOY fire truck or red ambulance!! :o CLUE??!!!!
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On the Timor photo, look above what looks like Mike in white with black hair, do you spot anything???? what looks like a TOY fire truck or red ambulance!! :o CLUE??!!!!
Hmm maybe... :?
Where was the other fire truck? In Neverland right?
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photo lightened..i do see the fire truck and the back of something
or someone with black hair....
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9647/431vk.th.jpg) (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/431vk.jpg/)
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I'm just posting random pics, in case ANYTHING happens to "stand out" to anyone (some of may see things that others "don't.")
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gawker/2009/11/mj4.jpg)
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(http://chikamuna.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/randy-jackson.jpg)
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/101/400x400bd/101758_janet-jackson-arrives-at-the-funeral-for-her-brother-michael-jackson-glendale-calif-sept-3-2009.jpg)
What's the SMILE for?!
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(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tlIqK7T4HxA2kM:http://api.ning.com/files/nBSqziq4HkY0BwtY6rJ-Vv3NOHbpsBvES2F4SkObPRxYbwgogh12noHSojKyIxhMccwfZVN7bWtnWD5kcxi37BziR-fjO6b2/top_ten_jackson_funeral.jpg)
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She doesn't want to be part of WHAT?
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I will not post my findings anymore because everytime i post something they think its weird..now MO posted even a blog about mij thoughts but not mentioning me, nor Maura..
But..about this picture..anuone noticed Michael Jackson is written in CAPITALS??? Without Joe or Joseph..
anyone knowes there are about 34000 Michael jacksons in the USA???
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TMZ posted an article saying that MJ was NOT going to be buried at Forrest Lawn...and if he was buried there that it was just to mislead you?? So maybe thats why you haven't seen anyone visiting the grave becuz everyone waiting for family to arrive at FL and maybe thats why the FL people cant/ Won;t confirms Michael Burial there...and the earlier viewing before Michael burial could have been when they actually buried him??...or maybe they were late to the burial was because they were taking him somewheres else to do a private burial...the reason why they didnt want fans was because they were probably terrified for Michael safety. ...he is afterall the most famous person in the world therefore they had to treat it diff then JB or Elvis..Have u seen footage on JB funeral when Michael showed up the cameras were more focused on Michael than on JB...and the crowd was so happy and cheering...there wasn't many sad people bc they were celebrating jb's life... Maybe thats how it was for Michael.
I know if that sounds horrible but you ahve to throw all possibilities out there.
I dont understand however as to why they filmed people arriving for the burial...but that was is after the hurse showed up it went off??...whats the point in filming just people showing up? that makes no sense to me at all. Maybe they were trying to show evidence that there was indeed a burial or something but its hard to say whats going on here.
One other thing i wanna throw out for the question of why fans were not allowed near Michael during burial memorial or whatev...Yes many people adored Michael but many people hated him as well. Think about this, if Mr. Jackson had to hoax his death to get away from some threat or some danger ( that seems to be the theory lately) then why would his family let ANY stranger newar Mr.Jackson's "coffin"...am i making any sense here...maybe thats why they had the private "burial"..and kept fans 2 blocks away and everything
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That is a great post highly plausible. Honestly I do not feel that MJ is even at Forest Lawn. YOu are making sense to suggest that he is not buried there. Because for one thing the family took sooo long to bury him?(even though I still do not feel that MJ has died) I am starting to feel like they have already been buried MJ before everything was even broadcast on television networks. Remember nobody in the family could get their story straight? Another , thing we can refer back to is when Jermaine was interviewed by Larry King and Larry asked him if they had a private burial for MJ ...... or something to that affect! Jermaine started laughing! OMG!! Somebody go back to that interview with Jeramaine and you will see what I am talking about!! OMG!! And then Larry brought up Paris speech ... and Larry says to Jermaine "So the speech wasn't planned or staged right?" OMG. Dannnnng Larry tripped out on Jermaine didn't he? Makes me wonder if Larry is in on the hoax or.... if he is like us and just don't believe MJ is really deceased . Your thoughts (go back and watch it!) Larry interviews Jermaine as if he doesn't believe a word Jermaine is saying!!!! What ya think? :idea:
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That is a great post highly plausible. Honestly I do not feel that MJ is even at Forest Lawn. YOu are making sense to suggest that he is not buried there. Because for one thing the family took sooo long to bury him?(even though I still do not feel that MJ has died) I am starting to feel like they have already been buried MJ before everything was even broadcast on television networks. Remember nobody in the family could get their story straight? Another , thing we can refer back to is when Jermaine was interviewed by Larry King and Larry asked him if they had a private burial for MJ ...... or something to that affect! Jermaine started laughing! OMG!! Somebody go back to that interview with Jeramaine and you will see what I am talking about!! OMG!! And then Larry brought up Paris speech ... and Larry says to Jermaine "So the speech wasn't planned or staged right?" OMG. Dannnnng Larry tripped out on Jermaine didn't he? Makes me wonder if Larry is in on the hoax or.... if he is like us and just don't believe MJ is really deceased . Your thoughts (go back and watch it!) Larry interviews Jermaine as if he doesn't believe a word Jermaine is saying!!!! What ya think? :idea:
I have to agree with you, i think larry thinks this whole thing is BS just like when he is interviewing anyone on Michael "death"...i also believe that Mr. Jackson is alive i was just trying tothrow out every side of the story because everyone is looking to the side that he is alive and i am trying to see if anything makes sense to that he may have passed??...but i think is alive for sure with all the other stories
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Honestly I do not feel that MJ is even at Forest Lawn.
That wouldn't be possible, he's alive isnt he! :D