Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
General Discussion => General Discussion => The Great Reset, New World Order & Global Mind Control => Topic started by: Whitesocks on December 18, 2009, 02:54:07 AM
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As promised, i try to make it more clear, so i hope everyone will understand better. I never ment to make people nervous or panicking. (Thanks Souza for removing earlier post).
It is soo much what i want to say and i don't know how to start.
Remember the words "he is in safe keepings now".....
It's all about spreading the message and about the big lie "they" want us to believe.
Michael also spreads his message through his music and all the signs he gave (and giving) us. Michael allways fights for more love in the world (freedom, everyone is equal, planet earth).. just like Martin Luther King, Lady Diana, John f Kennedy....see what happened to them.
"They" are the gouvernement maybe even higher..Freemasons (which there are different groups). And they are spreading the big lie to the world and make us believe their lies. (do reasearch according New World Order). On Youtube you will see the good fighters coming across as wel.
What about the link i send yesterday... i came to the statue of Liberty because the statue from Michael in History allways make me think about the statue of Liberty...
So i came to the link i was talking aboutand and read it. It was mindblowing.
Have a look at it again:
The lady of the statue of Liberty is holding a book with a tekst.
First it mentions JULY
And look closer...the M is seperated from the word (remember the Historiepicture with the big M and the army in front of it????
More: remember Michael uses a lot of symbols like the number 777??? Well ..Number 777 is the number for illuminati AND 21 (7x7x7) is a magical number.
in the link there is written by number 21: hard to translate, but it means like sins above sins
Remember in Michaels video (Historie) the statue is breaking???? Michael is warning everyone for the big LIE and he will fight against the lie "they" are spreading to the people. Just as the LIE about the swine flue.."they"are making money by making people affraid.
I truly think that is the reason why he got into trouble... remember a phonecall from Michael where he is panicing because he is being stalked and is very very affraid??
Everything makes complete sence to me. I am not saying you have to believe me, i am not claiming anything... i just want to make you think. And Michael is hiding and it could be very dangerous for him if he is being found now..His deadhoax and his hiding has a reason. And we must have trust in him. It is all for L.O.V.E.
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Thank you for the clear up :)
I do think that Michael is in hiding , he may have been in danger because he was a threat ... but these people are extremely powerful aren't they?? So Michael couldn't come back? Then it would be the theory about a non come back... I don't know... :? These stories about the Illuminati scare me but it makes sense to me too...
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Thanks for the post, Makes a little bit more sense now...
I actually think it was JACKSONOLOGIST who deleted the original post.
But just One question.... Why is it ok to post this now if it was so dangerous and needed deleting straight away last night??
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Thanks for the post, Makes a little bit more sense now...
I actually think it was JACKSONOLOGIST who deleted the original post.
But just One question.... Why is it ok to post this now if it was so dangerous and needed deleting straight away last night??
Because i felt to respond... and there are more theories...yesterday i was really affraid..but now i feel a bit stronger and i believe michael will be protected.
I don't know how this will end, but i do know: never believe the lie.
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Thanks Oetoort..
I'm still really confused about Illuminati thing, maybe i need to read some more about this. :? :? :?
Could this be related to the tweets of MICJOSSON? :shock:
http://twitter.com/MICJOSSON
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Thanks for the post, Makes a little bit more sense now...
I actually think it was JACKSONOLOGIST who deleted the original post.
But just One question.... Why is it ok to post this now if it was so dangerous and needed deleting straight away last night??
Because i felt to respond... and there are more theories...yesterday i was really affraid..but now i feel a bit stronger and i believe michael will be protected.
I don't know how this will end, but i do know: never believe the lie.
Ok well i would like to know more but the NWO stuff is really alot to research, MJ did put alot of signs in his music regarding it..Lots on youtube....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJnqV3Ow-4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJnqV3Ow-4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbK41pGa3IA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbK41pGa3IA)
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Yes, Michael also did a lot of investigation..and i know illuminaty or freemasons is hard stuff to get through :?
Here is an English explenation about the statue and illuminati
http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/statue_of_liberty.html (http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/statue_of_liberty.html)
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okay i am glad that is more clearer but we should never underestimate mj he knows what he is doing
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Interesting, I don't know where to begin with this.. I need to read more into it.
And, as for 777 and the illuminati: I didn't know there was a connection there. I didn't even know there was a spiritual connection to it either until recently. I use 7 because of my birthdate, nothing more. But this makes me uncomfortable now. :?
I much prefer the spiritual meaning, kthnxbai. :geek:
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okay i am glad that is more clearer but we should never underestimate mj he knows what he is doing
Agree! :)
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it makes sence to me...
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There are the good freemasions and there are bad Freemasons...
Michael joined the good and fought (with others like Lady Diana) for peace. Michael has soo much influence in the world...and wanted/wants to make us clear the gouvernement lies to us. Tehy don't really care about us... was recorded in Brazill as i remember for the children who lives at the street. !!! The Gouvernement does nothing about that.
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And I think there is an illuminati sign in the They don't care about us video in Brazil ... I will watch it again to make sure ...
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Yes he has lots of sighns...remember the amulet he wears (Murray seems to be also a freemasion)...and the cover of Dangerous has a lot of sighns to. I guess there are much more sighns. And MJ uses symbols with double meanings wich are very religious.
Yesterday i discussed on an other forum about MIND CONTROL...that brings me to NWO...
And i am wondering if Michael also uses that in TII to give the message just like the bad people do, but in a positive way (you know what i mean??)
I came to this link while investigating and ... coincidence is ruled out for me.
a short piece i came across is this:
Reportedly, Elvis told Nixon: "I've done an in-depth study of drug abuse and Communist brainwashing techniques."
Reportedly, Elvis believed 'the mind control techniques and his singing abilities could be used to help reshape the patriotic and moral fibre of America's youth.'
So Elvis also was controlled by "the bad".
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/06/m ... ntrol.html (http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/06/michael-jackson-and-cia-mind-control.html)
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Thanks for your post.
I'm very aware of the illuminati, and I think Michael as well.
I think this is the one and only reason for Michael to fake his death. To teach us a great lesson: 'don't buy everything you hear or read, eventhough it can sound very reliable'.
He wants to teach us the method of how the illuminati can effect our minds through media etc.
I think he started to get aware of them during the Dangerous era (hence the album cover) and he really started his mission when HIStory came out (just check the lyrics, they speak for themselves).
Before I start believing the hoax, I was convinced that they murdered him.
But know I think he was a step ahead of them. :D
There is one thing in your post about the number 7. I don't think that the number 7 is their number.
The number 7 is a religious number, wich resembles spirtual perfection in Christianity and Islam.
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And I think there is an illuminati sign in the They don't care about us video in Brazil ... I will watch it again to make sure ...
Yes the all seeing eye on the wall, I believe when he sings Will me, thrill me, You can never kill me
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Agree with you all..
About the link i have posted (you see i am whitesocks now) ;) :P
It was a Dutch link, but it describes the 777 issue. I trie to be more clear about it for those who cannot read Dutch...
http://eindtijdinbeeld.nl/het_geheim_va ... dsbeel.htm (http://eindtijdinbeeld.nl/het_geheim_van_het_vrijheidsbeel.htm)
The hidden message on the statue of liberty
The hidden message on the tablet , held by the goddess, in her left hand, tells the world almost for 233 years, the foundation of illuminati, the starters of the new world order.
MDCCLXXVI
The fact that the Roman number means litterly 1776 needs no further information.
We can split this number in 3 pieces:
1776 contains 3 7's. The 1 and the 6 are together also a 7. So you get 3 7's (7,7,7)
De Romans number is also splitted up in 3 pieces.
MDC =
1
6
0
0
(1600)
CLX =
1
6
0
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(160)
XVI =
1
6
-
-
(16)
Total:
3 x 1
3 x 6
2 x - (minus)
1 0 = 3 0 - (minus)
But also in dese series of numbers we come to the 3 7's
1600 = 1+6+0+0 = 7
1+6+0 = 7
1+6 = 7
The 3 sevens (together 21) is a magical number for the illuminati. So the Roman's meaning and as the "normal" meaning gives the 3 sevens, while they both have an other symbol for numbers.
Very rare. It definately means the year 1776 was an extremely important, maybe even magical year.
Gematria
What does de numbers meen? In the illuminati and in Freemasionery numbers are always more then just numbers.
They work alot with symbols for numbers, from origine it came from the bible.
1: the beginning.
6: the human
7: God
8: the new beginning
10 or 0: the whitnesing.
21: The higher level of sins above sin.
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Sorry, but I don't buy it. It still doesn't make sence to me. I will try to read more about this subject on the internet, maybe then it does.
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Sorry, but I don't buy it. It still doesn't make sence to me. I will try to read more about this subject on the internet, maybe then it does.
Just wanted to say the same... I don't get it at all, because I don't believe in the I theory...
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I have been doing my reading and the story doesn't make sence. They claim that Michael was a slave of the Illuminati and that he was in danger because he became a muslim..... Sorry but he didn't!
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Michael isn't a Muslim, but Jermaine is.. The Sun claimed that Michael converted too...
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Sorry, but I don't buy it. It still doesn't make sence to me. I will try to read more about this subject on the internet, maybe then it does.
I agree-but I have read all I can on this and I cannot believe. I have wanted to as it would give a logical reason for the hoax and a logical explanation as to why he felt the need to do something so drastic and leave his children. Is all too far fetched. The illuminati running the world and all the government's? 75% of the world is "3rd world" and in extreme poverty, is this the result of the illuminati then and not the droughts etc and governments in these countries who live in extreme luxury while millions starve and die of hunger? So Idi Armin was a result of the illuminati? or Adolph Hitler? or Mugabe? There is much much more I could write as to why this is to my mind just scaremongering and far fetched but is far too much to do in a post on here but to me I have lots of questions and reasons why stuff like that cannot work. I cannot believe. Michael was his own man-he was sincere in what he believed in (like the great martyrs) and took orders from no-one.
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Another thread about the statue.
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=174 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=174)
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Thank you for the clear up :)
I do think that Michael is in hiding , he may have been in danger because he was a threat ... but these people are extremely powerful aren't they?? So Michael couldn't come back? Then it would be the theory about a non come back... I don't know... :? These stories about the Illuminati scare me but it makes sense to me too...
I agree with what you posted, but I really think Michael is coming back but he definitely knows more about what is going on in the world then we do, that is why he was a threat.
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Well, I don't know... I think there are more people who know about it, so everyone who knows more is in danger then?
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I can not get it either :?
The illuminati is a danger to the world..yes that i can understand.
The NWO..the people in high places..the old money..the extremely rich.the greedy never enough people.
There is a group that want to make slave's of us(it is already happening) money slaves.
I know because here in the Netherlands we are dealing with that also..i told my story in the topic conspirasy's from souza(sorry for my Englisch)
Everything is going down hill sins 1995 here..The rich get more rich..the poor get more poor.
We have a lot of foodplaces here were people can get food for free..before there was no such thing.
There is a bank here in the Netherlands that already made people moneyslave's DSB bank..the people fight..the bank went down because of it..now the covernement is trying to keep the people moneyslave's..
trying to keep everything under cover...But people keep on fighting..now against the couvernement.
I think this is the story of the world at this time.. we are all in danger from this.
But now to MJ..I think he is in danger because he makes us aware more..they want to shut him up..but it needs real people with names to do this,they are the real danger..not numbers or symbols.
Thats why we have to take a stand in it..they cant shut us all up..they cant kill us all!
JMO
Greetings Mattie
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Thanks for the explanation .... I do not know, must think about it
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It's all about FREEDOM, peache and a better world to live in. Don't believe the gouvernement because they make you think they are working on a better world but they don't do anything about it.
Michael did a lot of investigation..why Jermaine became a muslim..why Michaels became interested in different religions... to do research how you can reach most people who truly believe in god (or whatever)....
Remember he used translators for def people so they understood the message and the lyrics of his song??? Why would he do that?? Because it is soo highly important everyone would understand. That is the reason for using soo much symbols (wich everyone understands...symbols are used everywehere). And not just to say so..because he just wanted to make people feel, see and think about what is happening. It doesn't work by only spreading the word.
Did you know Michael even studied Hitler..to see how things work..how people get mind controlled.
I don't know if i have mentioned it before...but the movie "the wave" is a perfect example for mind control and to take control.
Mind control is power...everyone knows they use it in commercials to make you watch and buy that product. They do it with fractions of seconds edited pictures in it..without you even notice it.
I wonder really if Mind Control is in TII for good reasons... Michael seems to be very happy when he did his announcement for This Is It.. Propably he found the answer how to get really IN to people, so they would be aware of it all.
And.... Chris Angel is also a mentalist who knows how to do mind control...coinsidence ??? Don't think so.
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Interesting, I don't know where to begin with this.. I need to read more into it.
And, as for 777 and the illuminati: I didn't know there was a connection there. I didn't even know there was a spiritual connection to it either until recently. I use 7 because of my birthdate, nothing more. But this makes me uncomfortable now. :?
I much prefer the spiritual meaning, kthnxbai. :geek:
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu777.php (http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu777.php)
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I watched Moonwalker again last night and noticed the statue of liberty is in that, just before he changes into the rabbit, I noticed on the book the statue is holding it says "July." Also i don't know if anyone picked up on it but at the begining of Mw, I heard a voive over saying that The Jackson 5 will start touring on July 7th of whatever year that was, weird or just a coincidence that his memorial was July 7th?? :roll:
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I watched Moonwalker again last night and noticed the statue of liberty is in that, just before he changes into the rabbit, I noticed on the book the statue is holding it says "July." Also i don't know if anyone picked up on it but at the begining of Mw, I heard a voive over saying that The Jackson 5 will start touring on July 7th of whatever year that was, weird or just a coincidence that his memorial was July 7th?? :roll:
WOW can you post the link of that please???
There are sooo much hints given !!!
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There are the good freemasions and there are bad Freemasons...
Michael joined the good and fought (with others like Lady Diana) for peace. Michael has soo much influence in the world...and wanted/wants to make us clear the gouvernement lies to us. Tehy don't really care about us... was recorded in Brazill as i remember for the children who lives at the street. !!! The Gouvernement does nothing about that.
Hello,
I am a Brazilian and have to agree even feel ashamed and I might add that not only are children living on the streets but also entire families living on the streets. This in my country is so present in everyday life, in every corner has a street dweller. The thing is so absurd that becomes part of the scene of each city and most people are so used to these scenes that these people even go unnoticed. It is very sad.
I live in Sao Paulo, a large metropolis and here there are people living under bridges, sleeping in parks, are cold, hunger and the government does nothing.
The Brazilian government does not care about their situation and do not really care about the situation of any Brazilian.
As a politician gets to make a salary around $ 50,000.00 not to do anything at all, a common Brazilian has to live with a minimum wage of $ 180.00. A tremendous social inequality.
My country is beautiful, the people are wonderful but we live atlados in the mud of corruption. Sorry my English is not my language. It was just an outburst.
Love to all.
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Thank you so much for your post Fe
And there are more people all over the world being ignored by the gouvernement..I am sure Michael DID open peoples eyes and more eyes will open up !!!!.
Michael spreads messages to the good and the bad people...love will win from the bad..always.
Lets see what do we have what all comes together through the messages MJ is given:
Historie album with LOTS and LOADS of clues..(i think his mission started here !!!!
Illuminati...sounds like illusion
Chris Angels beLIEve....what is behind the curtains
Wizzard of Oz... the wizzard was an illusion (HOAX)...it was jus a man behind the curtains they followd the road because they heard he could help him..(they believed)
Lion of Judah..google his picture.. what is behind his curtains who are wrapped aroud his head?
Lion Aslan from Narnia..rise out of death because he offered himself out of love
2012 ...that the world would end is a LIE
Archangel Michael.. he has lots of pictures/paintings of him as an angel
New world order
V for Vendetta
Legion 2010 (about archangel Michael)
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I read somewhere that Michael would do a show whats called behind the curtains.. i dont remember where or when...i have read soo much lately..
I also heard he hoaxed his death before.
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He wanted to call the Victory tour the Final Curtain.
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yes whitesocks.
i also believe this is what it's all about..
the pieces of the puzzle are comming together!
michael knows ofcourse about all of the problems in the world, just like all of us. and he really wants to make a change.
it looks like, that he has found a way.
he's in the position to reach the whole world!
well, he has my love and support and i'm do my best to help him with this important mission!!
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He's got my love and support too, though I have to get used with this whole theory ;)
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I Want to support Michael absolutely all the same what also is.
Michael we are there for you.
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Thank you, Whitesocks ... Love you.
Remember that Michael got yourself one important thing: the union of races and peoples, the union of all his fans in search of truth, while the majority of governments fuel wars and disunity of the people. This is priceless! Ah, this is beautiful! This is love!
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uh Fe??? i don't understand you??? Please Englisch??? :lol:
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uh Fe??? i don't understand you??? Please Englisch??? :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I missed everything! 8-)
But I arranged it. :roll:
Very funny.
Sorry :oops:
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uh Fe??? i don't understand you??? Please Englisch??? :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I missed everything! 8-)
But I arranged it. :roll:
Very funny.
Sorry :oops:
aah now i got it..thanks, your sweet ...
Michael will show himself again i am sure... and wow he is a genious.. like his former manager said: he makes the impossible possible. If Michael has an idea it MUST be like that no mather what it takes.
Michael always reached hos goal... and now he will to !!!
When Michael said these will be my last performances... well i guess thats true. He has an other mission and other things to do...He always wanted to make film.
He is spreading his word through his move the TII movie. Remember he mentioned LIVE performances....well we are in a LIVE movie now !!!!! And live means...it is happening NOW.
As i mentioned before we are all in it.
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uh Fe??? i don't understand you??? Please Englisch??? :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I missed everything! 8-)
But I arranged it. :roll:
Very funny.
Sorry :oops:
aah now i got it..thanks, your sweet ...
Michael will show himself again i am sure... and wow he is a genious.. like his former manager said: he makes the impossible possible. If Michael has an idea it MUST be like that no mather what it takes.
Michael always reached hos goal... and now he will to !!!
When Michael said these will be my last performances... well i guess thats true. He has an other mission and other things to do...He always wanted to make film.
He is spreading his word through his move the TII movie. Remember he mentioned LIVE performances....well we are in a LIVE movie now !!!!! And live means...it is happening NOW.
As i mentioned before we are all in it.
pretty cool isn't it!! 8-) ;)
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If he's seriously in danger, I doubt he would ever come back then...
If he comes back they will hunt him down like never before.
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MJJ1982
I fear this also .... them would hunt Michael, nevertheless, or?
How would they treat him, would he have it heavier than before?
How should this be? :roll:
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That's why I think, if this illu theory is true, he will never come back.
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Strange my post dissapeared :(
But i think he will come back he will have his protection. But doing concerts? No.
He allways said he didn't like doing concerts....
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Strange my post dissapeared :(
But i think he will come back he will have his protection. But doing concerts? No.
He allways said he didn't like doing concerts....
What post Whitesocks?
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Strange my post dissapeared :(
But i think he will come back he will have his protection. But doing concerts? No.
He allways said he didn't like doing concerts....
That is not correct. He said he loved beeing on stage, but he hated to TOUR. Those are two different things.
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No no..recently he said the nicest part of concerts is touring and seeing people.
i trie to find..from his own words.
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I try to find it as well because I know 100% sure that he did say: I hate to tour.
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Here it is
[youtube:1qz7auhf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlOeztUGpeM[/youtube:1qz7auhf]
The only reason why he tours is for the fans.
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As far as I know, he says that he hated to tour.. And not that he hated to be on stage or whatever.
Edit: See above ;)
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Yes, my point exactly!
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my post already gone grrrrr :evil:
But i interpretate touring as concert.. but listen to the last part he says
[youtube:1ky4wi2i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlOeztUGpeM[/youtube:1ky4wi2i]
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I placed the same one above yours............... he said: I hate to tour, but he does it for the fans.
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yes that is what he loves..he gets energy from them..
So i thought he hates to do concerts. But it could be interpretated different i see.
Oke, leave that behind us :mrgreen: probably doesnt meen something.
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Touring and doing a concert are two different things, touring is about the whole thing, travelling, different timezones etc. That's what Michael hates, not being on stage, because he loves being on stage.
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yes that is what he loves..he gets energy from them..
So i thought he hates to do concerts. But it could be interpretated different i see.
Oke, leave that behind us :mrgreen: probably doesnt meen something.
Sorry honey, I saw this post too late ;)
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Para mim o que realmente importa é o fato de que ele está vivo. : lol:
A decisão de voltar SÓ ESTÁ COM ele decida.
Vou apoiar TI assunto que decidiu. ;)
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Para mim o que realmente importa é o fato de que ele está vivo. : lol:
A decisão de voltar SÓ ESTÁ COM ele decida.
Vou apoiar TI assunto que decidiu. ;)
English please ;)
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Yes please....
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See this...
[youtube:16hom6dh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q1B0wWKSG0[/youtube:16hom6dh]
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See that??? year 1700...wasn't that describet at the statue of Liberty??????????????????
sTARTS ABOUT 0313
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aah now i got it..thanks, your sweet ...
Michael will show himself again i am sure... and wow he is a genious.. like his former manager said: he makes the impossible possible. If Michael has an idea it MUST be like that no mather what it takes.
Michael always reached hos goal... and now he will to !!!
When Michael said these will be my last performances... well i guess thats true. He has an other mission and other things to do...He always wanted to make film.
He is spreading his word through his move the TII movie. Remember he mentioned LIVE performances....well we are in a LIVE movie now !!!!! And live means...it is happening NOW.
As i mentioned before we are all in it.
pretty cool isn't it!! 8-) ;)
If that's true, I wonder who's working FOR Michael, instead of working AGAINST him?
Actually, nothing has changed. After his "death" the media seem as respectless as ever - maybe even more. And I can't think of ANYBODY, except Liz Taylor, who supports him to spread the word. And support via Twitter is def not enough IMO.
Even his killer doctor is going back to work, which doesn't make a huge wave. :shock:
Talking about TII is basically about his drug addiction, his dancing, his voice, his looks. If you're lucky, you'll get a side note about the message he wanted to transport. If you're VERY lucky.
So, what is actually happening? Is it, that a group of, let's say 5000 nuts people (including me) are making up theories about his comeback?
That can't be everything.
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I have serious questions TII is filmed in 2009
I think personally it's a part of his private collection made from several years...
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See that??? year 1700...wasn't that describet at the statue of Liberty??????????????????
sTARTS ABOUT 0313
I'm sorry, I can only see something about the 17th century?
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Para mim o que realmente importa é o fato de que ele está vivo. : lol:
A decisão de voltar SÓ ESTÁ COM ele decida.
Vou apoiar TI assunto que decidiu. ;)
English please ;)
If I dont get wrong....That for her the realy important is that he is alive and if he come back that have to be if he want it. She is going to support ... and the las part I dont understand it, I think.. wherever he decide....I know a bit english and a bit Potugués. I speak spanish...sorry
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I am sorry but I think you are going way too far with this. IMO! I don't think we should look for clues in everything.... there is something called "coincedence"! Don't turn everything in a clue, people go mad about this.
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I have serious questions TII is filmed in 2009
I think personally it's a part of his private collection made from several years...
Why don't you start a topic about it at the TII section?
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It a collection of years I do not believe
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It a collection of years I do not believe
Me neither, it was shot in a short time. TII was always meant to be a movie.
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It a collection of years I do not believe
Me neither, it was shot in a short time. TII was always meant to be a movie.
I agree
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Yes, I think just it was planned ....... as a film.
No test, all these things, costumes, quality HD.... Simply everything
Nevertheless, it would not be at all possibly this only for the tests?
The questionings of the dancers
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MJ did investigation for years...while he was out the picture...and suddenly he has a comeback tour??? common that doesnt make sence to me..
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Para mim o que realmente importa é o fato de que ele está vivo. : lol:
A decisão de voltar SÓ ESTÁ COM ele decida.
Vou apoiar TI assunto que decidiu. ;)
English please ;)
If I dont get wrong....That for her the realy important is that he is alive and if he come back that have to be if he want it. She is going to support ... and the las part I dont understand it, I think.. wherever he decide....I know a bit english and a bit Potugués. I speak spanish...sorry
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I wrote in English, but the translator of the page sometimes gives error and send in Portuguese. 8-)
Sorry :oops:
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I think the song this Is It tells much more. :|
Now sleep..see you tomorrow
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MJ did investigation for years...while he was out the picture...and suddenly he has a comeback tour??? common that doesnt make sence to me..
Exactly, but I also think he was aware of the illuminati in the beginning of the 90's.
I wonder what kind of books he has in his library. :D
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WhiteSocks,
I'll try and find the link on you tube, It was near of the begining of the film where the voice says it, amazing that the Jacksons 1st ever tour was July 7th.
It's strange All the things in Moonwalker, Rabbit, Michael leaving and then coming back, The Statue of liberty, Smooth Crim with Dr Murray name in it. The film set called "MJJ Studios!!"
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Moonwalker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7JDARnx8hs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7JDARnx8hs)
Statue Of Liberty clip From 1.21 notice July on the book.
At 3.58 he moves away from the door and on costume behind him is THe Crown and then the rabbit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHU1oKSKwn4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHU1oKSKwn4)
from 5.26 listen closely, you hear anouncer say july 7th the jackson's will start their tour in Madison Square Garden. Also notice at 6.35 Pinnochio, His nose grew when he told lies, (Hoax)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br9qGBmiXpM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br9qGBmiXpM)
Michael Leaving at begining of the clip, 1.51 the comeback and goes back to the stage
3.45 a guy says "where have you been? we got one minute left" what was heard on the 9-11 call, got one minute left.
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In 2005, to Canadian of Russian origin, living in Spain for nine years, presented in Barcelona his book "The True Story of the Bilderberg Club, Which outlines a new version of the conspiracy that a group of powerful men run to take the reins the world. "
Daniel Estulin, author, said in an interview with Agence France Press (AFP) that behind the international institutions of all supranational organizations and governments, "a group of political leaders, financiers and business rules the world."
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THE AMERICAN FREE PRESS NEWSPAPER published in June 2004, a series of photographs on the Club meeting in Stresa (Italy), with some of the attendees. Above left, David Rockefeller, top, right, Henry Kissinger, down, left, Bill Gates, below right, Donald Graham, chairman of the Washington Post.
The book contains research conducted on what I Estulin calls "the real world the shadow government," a sort of new version of the "Illuminati", that congregation founded in 1776 by Adam Weishaupt in Bavaria German university professor, to Which Belong to illustrious writers and scientists such as Goethe, Cagliostro and the Count of Saint-Germain.
Estulin, are of Soviet KGB officer, says the purpose of this new sect is the creation of to "New Order" planetarium.
To support this hypothesis, consulted many sources and had the collaboration of colleagues from his father and the children of these, the huge task of documenting the history of the Bilderberg Club.
The club actually exists and was created by Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands in 1954. Because his name is the first meeting was held in a hotel with that name, in the city of Osterbeckl Netherlands.
Each year hold to meeting, Which is Outlined in the Encyclopedia Britannica as "Bilderberg Conference" and is defined as "three-day conference attended by about 100 of the bankers of Europe and North America, Economists, politicians, and most influential government leaders. " is held every year in a different Western country, in an atmosphere of rigid secrecy. "
Depending on the Ideological perspective, the Bilderberg club may be considered:
"An international group lobbying extremely elitist, with power to direct foreign policy."
"An innocent discussion group In which politicians, intellectuals and powerful investors."
"To capitalist secret society that defends its own interests and that weaves intrigue and machinations to secure world domination."
Although meetings are performed in strict secrecy and access to them does not the press, the patient work of some researchers journalists have managed to know the identity of some participants regulars to the last five: David Rockefeller, former head of Chase Manhattan Bank, Henry . Kissinger, former Secretary of State of the United States, Alan Greenspan, Governor of Bank of the Us Federal Reserve, Rodrigo Rato, managing director of the International Monetary Fund, United States Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, President of the World Bank, Jacques Chirac, President of France; Hungarian billionaire George Soros, or Queen Sofia of Spain.
Daniel Estulin credited so secret and powerful club, Which Ensures even have received threats and an assassination attempt in 1996, due to the nature of their research activity.
Known history
The Bilderberg Club, the story is known, was born at a time when Europe was recovering from the effects of WWII, thanks to resources from United States, revives Which allowed middle-class Italian, German, Belgian, Dutch and French consumption capacity. The world was divided into two large systems, and doctrinal opposite.
In 1954, the Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands invited a group of characters - Whose characteristic in common was the money, power or influence in their respective countries, and its marked anti-communism-meet to discuss the present and the Future of Europe and the world, creating "an institution intended to Strengthen the Atlantic, drive to halt the Soviet expansionism and Promote cooperation and economic development of the countries of the western area.
The monarch was supported by the Rothschild banking tycoon Rockefeller and Henry Kissinger. Thereafter, the annual event has never stopped to be realized. All Western cities, and in the last decade, a few days before the meeting of the Group of Eight (G8), more developed countries of the world.
According to published Playboy magazine in February 2004, the system to protect the group "is as elitist and powerful as its members".
Ensure that European magazines it has headquarters in the Dutch city of Leiden and a Steering Committee (Steering Committee) by some 20 permanent members responsible for the invitations to no more than 150 people, according to the topics on the agenda.
Meetings access is not allowed in the press, so rarely appear or news stories from them, and photos much less.
At the meeting in 2003, according to the Chronicle play boy mentioned above, some topics discussed were leaked and some discomfort group was discussed by the invasion of Iraq, Which divided the United States and Europe, against the purposes of the Club of Strengthening the transatlantic link
Only references public meetings are some press releases that briefly outlines the topics General. The most frequent in recent years are nuclear energy and biotechnology.
Exclusive Partner
Successive meetings have never stopped when NATO attend, up to the year before his death, Giovanni Agnelli, Fiat Chairman, American Steve Case, AOL-Time Warner, and an amazing payroll clerks.
In fact, the Economist magazine said in an article of makes three years that the most important governmental leaders were at a meeting of the Bilderberg Club before their positions, including Bill Clinton and Tony Blair, or former Secretary of NATO, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer.
In 2003, the Bilderberg Club Summit was held in the Hotel Trianon Park of Versailles (France), and only appeared in the French press a few lines about the meeting, Although the guests that year included the Presidents of France Telecom, Coca-Cola and The Wall Street Journal, Tony Blair, Prime Minister of Denmark, officials of the administration of George Bush as Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz, and former public relations counselor French President Valery Giscard D 'Estaing.
Another story
Cover of the American Free Press of 14 June 2004, on the meeting of Italy.
The legend surrounds the Bilderberg Club for many years, even there are numerous stories about Misfortunes that have fallen on journalists who dared to investigate meetings or the true nature of the Congregation.
A British sociologist called Piter Mikes wrote an article In which ensure that, in 1976, the Financial Times, Gordon Theta, journalist was fired when he attempted to publish, unsuccessfully, to too explicit article on this year's meeting.
Many journalists have woven another history of the Club, an attractive tangle of conspiracies and secret plans.
Matthew Balin, journalist information solidarity, a group of leftist orientation, press agency says that the Bilderberg Club members often use a "strategy that consists of creating tensions in religiously and culturally closed, Nations that lead to perpetual State of War and Hostilities that used to National justify emergency measures in times of peace ".
I.e. Encourage that crisis and help solve them, provided that the end of these conflicts is fully controlled.
Spanish novelist Christina Martin Jimenez, author of the book "the Bilderbergers, the masters of the world", says in this work: "when for the first time I spoke of the Club Bilderberg felt chills." Its existence seemed more science fiction than reality. I proposed the challenge to unveil the secrets of this powerful group discreetly serving to control the world. Quickly contacted a researcher years following the track, named for their personal safety omit. He told me: "Bilderberg is just as big brother, the eye that sees everything and controls. Not acting on money, they already have a lot; is by power. The real goal is absolute power, people become slaves'. Then showed me a ticket of a dollar to explain me the Masonic symbolism that contains. The eye on the pyramid, the 13 branches, 13 arrows ... Below the pyramid is a phrase that says: new world order. Not only is intuits the hand of the Freemasons, but of the enlightenment. Our conversation ended with his advice to not write the book. 'These people is very dangerous. You will pursued to you and your family. Removed it everything, you will no longer on the street. Any lawyer will want to defend yourself. Not again to never work. Calling all parts and decide your name to anyone you hire. Removed the book library with a single call. Anonymous voices I have threatened to kidnap me, even to kill me ... '
I took two days thinking about the scope and meaning of your words. I came to the conclusion that the Bilderbergers were not to waste time with someone so insignificant as I do. And of course, could not allow that fear was DECIDED by me. "Why started to investigate.
It is a "vision of democracy drone, Which not only puts into practice the Bilderberg Club, but the Bohemian Club, the Trilateral Commission or the Club of Rome, Which appear as branches where the great global power policies negotiated in the shadow of public discussion .
All that takes clear little news published on the 2005 Bilderberg meeting in the German town of Rottach-Egern, is that it was extraordinary.
For Daniel Estulin, this year's meeting confirms that the Bilderberg Club is responsible for "terrorism promoted by Governments, the current control of the population through fear and manipulation and most frightening of all, future projects of the new world order".
In his book, attributed to the "Bilderbergers" maneuvers as give carte blanche to Russia for bombing Chechnya and press to Margaret Thatcher removed from policy to Oppose the euro.
It will be difficult to know the truth, inter alia, Because many real conspiracies have been distorted arguing that believe in conspiracies is characteristic of the fanciful minds.
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There are the good freemasions and there are bad Freemasons...
Michael joined the good and fought (with others like Lady Diana) for peace. Michael has soo much influence in the world...and wanted/wants to make us clear the gouvernement lies to us. Tehy don't really care about us... was recorded in Brazill as i remember for the children who lives at the street. !!! The Gouvernement does nothing about that.
Are you talking about Faction one and two?
I dont know what truth there is in this article, but it sure is interesting.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar ... read=72941 (http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=72941)
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Very impressive posts !!!
I am really convinced there is more going on... and more to come... we need some theories over here...
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I was wondering .... it says Michael converts to Islam on november 21st.
I know he was doing a lot of reseach there...i don't assume anything...but with all the terror now in the world... could this be a part of it..you know jihad things from the extreme groups..(no offend to the "normal" muslim).
I have reading some stuff about Islam will rule the world (NWO????)
Maybe the etreme ones has turned against him, and he was threatened bij them? Just a thought...
Maybe Michael offenden him through the symbols or whatever, and wich they gave it a different meaning. do you understand what i mean?
Liberty, justice, freedom...for all human nations...loving, caring...
That is not what we see now do we... it seems only getting worse. :|
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Oh my God :shock:
"Last week, Julien and his partner Martin Nolan entered affavadits [sic] into Los Angeles Superior Court claiming that an associate of Jackson’s suggested they were in danger from the Nation of Islam if they didn’t stop the auction scheduled for Los Angeles next month."
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/03/micha ... reats.html (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/03/michael-jackson-and-nation-of-islam-accused-of-making-death-threats.html)
Posted on march 24 2009
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What about these lyrics...3 versions.. :?
http://www.mp3lyrics.org/m/michael-jackson/threatened/ (http://www.mp3lyrics.org/m/michael-jackson/threatened/)
It is getting weirder and weirder...
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Interesting, I don't know where to begin with this.. I need to read more into it.
And, as for 777 and the illuminati: I didn't know there was a connection there. I didn't even know there was a spiritual connection to it either until recently. I use 7 because of my birthdate, nothing more. But this makes me uncomfortable now. :?
I much prefer the spiritual meaning, kthnxbai. :geek:
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu777.php (http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu777.php)
Thank you. :)
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I have had a very weird thought, Somebody on here mentioned that they don't think TII was filmed this year, I also kind of agree... Could it have been filmed from 2005?
The time when Mike says in Tii, we have four years to get this right, We are looking at it as 4 years from now, but what if that was said in 2005, knowing he was planning all of this in 2009?
We are all saying that Mike was different in Tii, his looks changed, but if he was having any kind of work done on his face, that would explain the face changing.
I actually believe that O2 announcement Michael WAS him, the laugh he did when he didn't finish his sentence, i heard exactly the same, what i'd call a 'giggle' in Moonwalker.
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From appearance and age I think MJ 2009.
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Only Jermaine is a Muslim, Michael didn't convert.
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I was wondering .... it says Michael converts to Islam on november 21st.
I know he was doing a lot of reseach there...i don't assume anything...but with all the terror now in the world... could this be a part of it..you know jihad things from the extreme groups..(no offend to the "normal" muslim).
I have reading some stuff about Islam will rule the world (NWO????)
Maybe the etreme ones has turned against him, and he was threatened bij them? Just a thought...
Maybe Michael offenden him through the symbols or whatever, and wich they gave it a different meaning. do you understand what i mean?
Liberty, justice, freedom...for all human nations...loving, caring...
That is not what we see now do we... it seems only getting worse. :|
It could have been that he converted, a lot of thing point that direction but it's not certain.
What I do know is that de nwo means something else. As I have read it's about full mind body and soul control over the world population by the illuminati.
So that has nothing to do with Islam.