Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => The Conrad Murray Investigation & Court Case => After June 25, 2009 => Court Case & Hearings; Discussion and Articles => Topic started by: VeryLittleSusie on January 02, 2011, 12:21:43 PM
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MJ's son Prince Michael to testify in court
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hollywood/news-interviews/MJs-son-Prince-Michael-to-testify-in-court/articleshow/7204491.cms
Late King of Pop Michael Jackson's son Prince Michael could be called to court to give evidence in the star's death case.
Prince Michael, 13, is likely to be called by defence lawyers for Dr Conrad Murray, the singer's personal physician, at a pre-trial hearing due to start in Los Angeles on Tuesday.
Murray's lawyers will claim he gave Jackson only 25 milligrams of the anaesthetic propofol on the day he died in June, 2009, not the massive overdose that killed him.
They will also say Jackson added more of the drug to his intravenous drip while his doctor was in the bathroom and will try to prove the singer had a history of "self-medicating".
"What Jackson's children may have seen in the past could be crucial to the defence. If they ever, even once, saw their father administer his own drugs, it will give veracity to Dr Murray's claim," the Daily Express quoted a source as saying.
"No one wants to put any youngster through the mill like that but what those kids may have seen could be key to whether there were precedents of Jackson self-medicating," the source added.
"The likelihood is that the eldest boy alone will be questioned under oath, with his siblings spared the ordeal of having to relive the most painful memories of their lives."
David Walgren, the Deputy district attorney, said that unless "circumstances make that absolutely necessary", Jackson's kids will not be called to testify.
A family friend said last night, "Michael's mother Katherine is absolutely horrified by the prospect of Prince Michael or any of the children being forced to give evidence."
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Katherine is horrified about this, and yet she was happy to parade them on TV for Oprah>>>>????
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Okay - I have not experience or knowledge with court proceedings. Is it lawful to force a child this age to testify?
I really have to wonder what Michael has planned with this or if this is beyond his control.
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Okay - I have not experience or knowledge with court proceedings. Is it lawful to force a child this age to testify?
I really have to wonder what Michael has planned with this or if this is beyond his control.
Why is he being "forced"?? Maybe he wants to go on the stand and tell the truth. Im sure the kids want justice for thier father. There wont be justice if people run and hide.
But in answer to your question... if he is a key witness then he can be required to give evidence, yes.
Unfortunately for Katherine, she has shot herself in the foot with this one. After she has paraded the kids on Oprah, she cant now turn around and say the kids are unable to give evidence in court. She has already exposed them. Maybe she is piddled off because there is no money in this one for her! :twisted:
He can give evidence by video link.. he doesnt need to be physically on the stand in front of Murray. There are special measures that can be used for child witnesses.
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:? I don't like the vibes I'm getting from this. Not good. :?
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Okay - I have not experience or knowledge with court proceedings. Is it lawful to force a child this age to testify?
I really have to wonder what Michael has planned with this or if this is beyond his control.
Why is he being "forced"?? Maybe he wants to go on the stand and tell the truth. Im sure the kids want justice for thier father. There wont be justice if people run and hide.
LOL - you make a good point. It's highly possible that Prince is a very willing participant. I just think about how, on the Oprah show, he didn't like being in front of the camera as much as Paris did so that was the basis of my comment.
I guess we'll need to watch and see what twists and turns this takes. There was an insider video that said we should pay attention to what Dr Murray does and DOES NOT say in court. This could be very telling for sure.
If this is scripted, then we should begin to see what's going on. We'll need to watch for the usual trash cans and anything else that's become familiar during this past 18 months.
Blessings.
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I seriously doubt that any of the kids ever saw Michael self-administer any drug, let alone Diprivan. It would be interesting to find out though, if Prince actually went upstairs like Murray had claimed, or if he didn't like the chef claimed.
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I don't take this article as truth, but IF this has any real base, something came to my mind while reading it.
Jordan Chandler as well as the Arvizos were called to testify. All lied. This is what comes to my mind. This could show how children can lie if their parents tell them to do so. Chandler's parents told Jordan to lie, they even made up intimate descriptions of Michael and put Jordan to lie about that. This could show that children can be manipulated by their parents to lie.
But I don't take this as truth, and TMZ hasn't said anything about it so far.
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:? I don't like the vibes I'm getting from this. Not good. :?
I agree with you, although I am going to assume this may not be truthful until I hear who actually does testify. However, if Prince does testify I will have to re-think this hoax, as I think asking a minor child to essentially lie in court is just a little too much for a hoax. At the very least, it would definitely solidify for me that Michael isn't coming back. Michael is a smart man and he must know that he would receive a tremendous amount of backlash and claims of being an unfit father if he were to allow Prince to get this deeply involved in a hoax death.
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I don't take this article as truth, but IF this has any real base, something came to my mind while reading it.
Jordan Chandler as well as the Arvizos were called to testify. All lied. This is what comes to my mind. This could show how children can lie if their parents tell them to do so. Chandler's parents told Jordan to lie, they even made up intimate descriptions of Michael and put Jordan to lie about that. This could show that children can be manipulated by their parents to lie.
But I don't take this as truth, and TMZ hasn't said anything about it so far.
I really hope you are joking. Please dont tell me you think TMZ publish the truth... its a gossip rag!
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I don't take this article as truth, but IF this has any real base, something came to my mind while reading it.
Jordan Chandler as well as the Arvizos were called to testify. All lied. This is what comes to my mind. This could show how children can lie if their parents tell them to do so. Chandler's parents told Jordan to lie, they even made up intimate descriptions of Michael and put Jordan to lie about that. This could show that children can be manipulated by their parents to lie.
But I don't take this as truth, and TMZ hasn't said anything about it so far.
I really hope you are joking. Please dont tell me you think TMZ publish the truth... its a gossip rag!
No, I'm not joking. I never use to joke when talking about this. I do not say that TMZ is the source of truth, you can do better than that. Of course not. I just say that as long as TMZ has published all the details so far about the hearings at least, and the things did happen- in Murray's case- then they would have reported this too. So far everything they reported regarding the Murray's case did take place, so why not reporting this too?
TMZ are not the source of truth, but the source of this case, among any other, so that could mean that they are used for it. And nothing more.
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Sorry, i do not believe TMZ are the source.
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I've heard this story one too many times. I highly doubt Prince is going to testify. And even if he did, which I still think is unlikely, that wouldn't mess up the hoax. If it's a fake court proceeding, with a fake judge, then what's the problem w/ Prince telling a fake story?
We'll never know what's said in the court room anyway. No cameras.
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I've heard this story one too many times. I highly doubt Prince is going to testify. And even if he did, which I still think is unlikely, that wouldn't mess up the hoax. If it's a fake court proceeding, with a fake judge, then what's the problem w/ Prince telling a fake story?
We'll never know what's said in the court room anyway. No cameras.
Court transcripts.
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I've heard this story one too many times. I highly doubt Prince is going to testify. And even if he did, which I still think is unlikely, that wouldn't mess up the hoax. If it's a fake court proceeding, with a fake judge, then what's the problem w/ Prince telling a fake story?
We'll never know what's said in the court room anyway. No cameras.
Court transcripts.
Will they release these to the public?
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I've heard this story one too many times. I highly doubt Prince is going to testify. And even if he did, which I still think is unlikely, that wouldn't mess up the hoax. If it's a fake court proceeding, with a fake judge, then what's the problem w/ Prince telling a fake story?
We'll never know what's said in the court room anyway. No cameras.
Court transcripts.
Will they release these to the public?
Yes. They will be made public on the day.
They were for MJs trial in 2005.
I believe they are public record. The trial is not a private one... its not held behind secret, closed doors. Members of the public will be allowed in the gallery, so they will publish the court transcripts.
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I've heard this story one too many times. I highly doubt Prince is going to testify. And even if he did, which I still think is unlikely, that wouldn't mess up the hoax. If it's a fake court proceeding, with a fake judge, then what's the problem w/ Prince telling a fake story?
We'll never know what's said in the court room anyway. No cameras.
Agree on that! I was spontaneously thinking of Prince wanting to direct movies...but, no, I don`t like to speculate on this, he is still a child and this is not funny.
So in that case he would be one of the 30 witnesses to be heared in the following 2 weeks, right?
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I've heard this story one too many times. I highly doubt Prince is going to testify. And even if he did, which I still think is unlikely, that wouldn't mess up the hoax. If it's a fake court proceeding, with a fake judge, then what's the problem w/ Prince telling a fake story?
We'll never know what's said in the court room anyway. No cameras.
Agree on that! I was spontaneously thinking of Prince wanting to direct movies...but, no, I don`t like to speculate on this, he is still a child and this is not funny.
So in that case he would be one of the 30 witnesses to be heared in the following 2 weeks, right?
He is a child, but courts can put in special measures to reduce the anxiety and make it easier for them.
He could give evidence by video link or with a screen in court, so he is screened from the gallery and from Murray.
Children this age give evidence in courts all the time. Its not unusual.
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Having said that, i do highly doubt they will call Prince up for the Prelim hearing. They will probably read out his evidence... as if he was in the room after Dr Murray called him, then i hope he was interviewed by the police and a witness statement taken from him.
I would gaurantee he will be called up for the main trial, but not the prelim. It wouldnt make much sense to make Prince go to the stand twice.
My theory is that they will have the Prelim and then throw the case out anyway. I cant see this going to full trial, but we will see.
So i dont think Prince will be giving evidence next week... only if this goes to full jury trial. Then he will be as he is a significant witness to what was happening in that room on that fateful day.
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Prince Michael, 13, is likely .....
Speculation!
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Does anyone know if the hearing will be streamed live?
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makes me think of how the prosecution that debbie was gonna help nail him in 2005 and it worked out in his favor ;)
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Having said that, i do highly doubt they will call Prince up for the Prelim hearing. They will probably read out his evidence... as if he was in the room after Dr Murray called him, then i hope he was interviewed by the police and a witness statement taken from him.
I would gaurantee he will be called up for the main trial, but not the prelim. It wouldnt make much sense to make Prince go to the stand twice.
My theory is that they will have the Prelim and then throw the case out anyway. I cant see this going to full trial, but we will see.
So i dont think Prince will be giving evidence next week... only if this goes to full jury trial. Then he will be as he is a significant witness to what was happening in that room on that fateful day.
Makes sense DTD, and it indeed is speculation expressed in the article. If there is a bigger picture to see, this is actually getting ridiculous, I think, from what point on can you talk of self-medication that carries enough evidence to conclude that MJ injected himself at June 25th!?His own son being used against his father ??Remembers me of kids speaking out against MJ.How much have the children already suffered from the 2005 trial? Tabloidtrash or directed from above ;) . That is my conclusion
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As the saying goes "actions speak louder than words"...so far this is just words unless it actually happens we will see...also didn't TMZ say KJ was going to do the NYE thing in Atlanta with Tito but so far the only footage I have seen is of Tito doing it not KJ. Whether they are in on the hoax or not everything they say is not going to be the truth...neither with those who are close to MJ who might possibly be involved in the hoax/or think his alive.
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It won't happen.....Howard Weitzman was mentioned in the article.....
Howard is also an actor...
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0919388/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0919388/)
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Can someone tell me why this is bad? Maybe after seeing Paris's skills, the acting bug has bitten Prince.
We all know Murray is innocent, and that this is a hoax. Why wouldn't he testify? To prove that he didnt see MJ do drugs, he's not a drug addict, and that Murray didnt kill MJ. He gets to help clear his father's name and also help slowly reveal the hoax.
Its a part of the plan. Of course Ms. Katherine is horrified by this (even though I never heard her say it herself), it's her role. The proctective grandmother.
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Problem with that is you never KNOW what children are gonna say until they open their mouths and it comes out. Sometimes, it not what was rehearsed.
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Problem with that is you never KNOW what children are gonna say until they open their mouths and it comes out. Sometimes, it not what was rehearsed.
That's true. But I don't think MJ would let the kids testify if he didn't have complete control over what happened in court. He has controlled every little thing about this hoax, being that court is probably one of the most important parts, he has the to have complete control over that too. I wouldn't be surprised if he handpicked the judge, prosecutors, jury etc. If Murray goes to jails its b'cuz that's what MJ wants.
I doubt they'll be cameras in the court room, so its not like that's added pressure, like speaking live @ the grammy's would have been.
And if there's is cameras, the press will probably be limited, so TMZ can get a coveted front row seat to all the action. If there's camera's there could be taped on a delay so there's some time to get things right.
Count less yrs of planning, I'm sure he thought of this. I don't think he would let anyone, including his kids, mess this up.
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With Prince being the age that he his, I think that the Judge will have him in his corridors asking him questions. I doubt that the judge would allow the children to testify in open court. Even in divorce proceedings the judge talks to the child in his office and not on the stand. Children get more nervous than adults and the lawyers can twist their words quicker than an adult. So , IMO, it would be better for the child to testify behind closed doors.
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I have a friend in LA who is a huge MJfan. Together with round about 10 other fans she was picked from
the crowd to be part of the public in court for the hearing somewhere in the springtime. I mailed her today and asked what she plans to do today.If her answer contributes to the topic, I will let you know !
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I have a friend in LA who is a huge MJfan. Together with round about 10 other fans she was picked from
the crowd to be part of the public in court for the hearing somewhere in the springtime. I mailed her today and asked what she plans to do today.If her answer contributes to the topic, I will let you know !
Wow...is that what they usually do with courtcases???? Or is this a "Special rehearsal" with only die hard MJ fans in the audience???
Thanks for sharing that information with us. I will stay tuned.
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I have a friend in LA who is a huge MJfan. Together with round about 10 other fans she was picked from
the crowd to be part of the public in court for the hearing somewhere in the springtime. I mailed her today and asked what she plans to do today.If her answer contributes to the topic, I will let you know !
Wow...is that what they usually do with courtcases???? Or is this a "Special rehearsal" with only die hard MJ fans in the audience???
Thanks for sharing that information with us. I will stay tuned.
MJ is such a giver! I'll take her place if she can't make it. :P