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Title: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Andrea on January 04, 2011, 01:57:52 PM

Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray-preliminary-hearing-suit-photo-court/)
7 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  

Dr. Conrad Murray stopped to have breakfast in downtown Los Angeles before heading to court today for the first day of his preliminary hearing in the Michael Jackson manslaughter case.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/04/0104-conrad-murray-npg-credit.jpg)

They should throw the book at him ... for wearing that tie.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-j ... oto-court/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray-preliminary-hearing-suit-photo-court/)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 02:04:52 PM
Such a coincidence that the National Photo Group is ALWAYS the one who has exclusive Murray pics. Lucky bastards! :lol:
I can't help it, but that Murray looks so familiar.

And TMZ is right, that tie is just horrific!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: chappie on January 04, 2011, 02:07:28 PM
Strange....does Conny have a skin disease?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on January 04, 2011, 02:13:48 PM
I apologize beforehand, but I just had to check this out -- Spiritual Meaning of the Paisley.
(http://applesofgold.com/jewelryblog/tag ... e-paisley/ (http://applesofgold.com/jewelryblog/tag/spiritual-meaning-of-the-paisley/))
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on January 04, 2011, 02:14:16 PM
Quote from: "chappie"
Strange....does Conny have a skin disease?
That's what I was wondering also. Is his makeup running?

The tie is a paisley print. Purple...

Peace
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 04, 2011, 02:16:00 PM
It looks like a fish to me on his tie.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Andrea on January 04, 2011, 02:17:45 PM
That tie has some hoax colors!   :lol:

And he's obviously not worried about this prelim if he had an appetite for breakfast out right before.
Title: new pic of murry
Post by: mrtoki on January 04, 2011, 02:22:34 PM
is it me or is there writing on the fence behind him??? and look at his belt buckle it looks like the eyes of mj..??? look and tell me what u think..
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Red_Rose on January 04, 2011, 02:23:04 PM
what is that spot on his right cheek  :?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mrtoki on January 04, 2011, 02:30:56 PM
O SHIT LOOK AT HIS HANDS 1 BLACK THE OTHER A LIGHTER BLACK???????????
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 02:32:04 PM
what's wrong with his face? And why dose he look skinny?

Im I the only one who believe the picture looks photoshop
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on January 04, 2011, 02:48:30 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"

Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray-preliminary-hearing-suit-photo-court/)
7 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  

Dr. Conrad Murray stopped to have breakfast in downtown Los Angeles before heading to court today for the first day of his preliminary hearing in the Michael Jackson manslaughter case.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/04/0104-conrad-murray-npg-credit.jpg)

They should throw the book at him ... for wearing that tie.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-j ... oto-court/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray-preliminary-hearing-suit-photo-court/)
[youtube:386k6yk2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsvOkgnJhQ4[/youtube:386k6yk2]

 ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suspicious mind on January 04, 2011, 02:49:45 PM
he looks so much more in shape (if you will) not like what we say on the beach. why does this photo make me think of the michael one with the red jacket that he is buttoning and he looks so broad shouldered in it and buffed up (is that the correct term?)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Kim on January 04, 2011, 02:50:27 PM
Haha that picture! Reminds me of TII when MJ says at the end: I'm gonna button my shirt or jacket, play with them for a while then BAM!!!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: pepper on January 04, 2011, 02:50:46 PM
Quote from: "mrtoki"
...look at his belt buckle it looks like the eyes of mj..??? look and tell me what u think..
Yes, I see two eyes and a nose...

Quote from: "mrtoki"
LOOK AT HIS HANDS 1 BLACK THE OTHER A LIGHTER BLACK???????????
Did (Ben) the photographer just catch his left hand in that weird gyration?  Are his hands two different colors/shades?  

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/04/0104-conrad-murray-npg-credit.jpg)
(http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/04/conrad_murray_michael_jackson_03_0000_Layer_5_full.jpg)
http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_ ... st_recent& (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_murray_on_the_run#tab=most_recent&)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: pepper on January 04, 2011, 02:52:42 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
he looks so much more in shape (if you will) not like what we say on the beach. why does this photo make me think of the michael one with the red jacket that he is buttoning and he looks so broad shouldered in it and buffed up (is that the correct term?)

Maybe NPG took this photo the same day they took the "Murray at the beach" photos...
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 04, 2011, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: "mjintrigue2012"
I apologize beforehand, but I just had to check this out -- Spiritual Meaning of the Paisley.
(http://applesofgold.com/jewelryblog/tag ... e-paisley/ (http://applesofgold.com/jewelryblog/tag/spiritual-meaning-of-the-paisley/))
Here is the info on that link.

Paisley
Resembling a twisted tear-drop, kidney shape, or elongated comma, the paisley design is of Persian and Indian origin, but the modern name, “paisley” is of Scottish descent, made fashionable in Europe by the town of Paisley in Central Scotland.

Spiritual meaning of the Paisley
The paisley design is rich in spiritual and symbolic meaning. In India, the paisley signified the time of harvest, a time of both socio-economic and spiritual significance.

In Eastern religions, the two paisleys are reminiscent of the yin-yang, the interaction of two polar energies of which encompasses creation.

Some scholars also believe the paisley is a convergence of a floral spray and the ancient cypress tree of the Middle East–a spiritually rich tree that is often found in the pages of the Bible.

Noah’s ark, for example, was made with cypress wood: “So make yourself an ark of cypress wood; make rooms in it and coat it with pitch inside and out” (Genesis 6:14). The cypress was also a symbol of holiness and aesthetic beauty: “The glory of Lebanon will come to you, the pine, the fir and the cypress together, to adorn the place of my sanctuary; and I will glorify the place of my feet” (Isaiah 60:13).

Royal Insignia and Artwork
The paisley also had its origins in royal design; In the Safavid dynasty of Persia of the 16th and 17th century, the paisley floral motif  was a popular pattern used to decorate royal insignias, crowns, and court garments–and was later prevalent in Persian carpets, embroidery, and jewelry.

The paisley design quickly made its way into Europe through Indian imports, including in England, France, and Scotland, where the paisley derived its modern name.

Modern Influence
The paisley design saw a heavy resurgence in modern times with the advent of the 60s psychodelic culture and interest in Indian spirituality and culture, which was made popular by the Beatles pilgrimage to India in 1968.

Today, fashion and design has reached far back into Mid-East and European  history to resurrect the beauty, depth of meaning, and royal floral paisley pattern.

Paisley Wedding Bands are a fashionable statement for wedding bands that are not only full of historical significance and meaning, but are simply beautiful and enduring.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Kim on January 04, 2011, 02:55:07 PM
@  Im_convincedmjalive

You're just ahead of me....hea! I thought I finally found a coincidence!  :lol: Just kidding... ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on January 04, 2011, 02:58:23 PM
Thankyou, @Serenity!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on January 04, 2011, 03:11:13 PM
OMG! Looks like Murray's head imposed over Michaels "I'll-button-up-my-shirt-body"!!!

I really hope this Murray is MJ in disguise!  :?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: AnaMarcia on January 04, 2011, 03:12:52 PM
Murray will again take a bite before the hearing?? That most unusual thing. And it's funny that nobody recognizes! This is so weird!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: _Anna_ on January 04, 2011, 03:16:15 PM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
OMG! Looks like Murray's head imposed over Michaels "I'll-button-up-my-shirt-body"!!!

I really hope this Murray is MJ in disguise!  :?
I can't understand how can someone think it's Michael in disguise when seeing Murray standing. I would at least understand the suspicion when he's sitting, but standing this man is 6'3'', Michael is 5'11. Don't tell me that he can disguise the height too. I'm sorry but it's absurd.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suspicious mind on January 04, 2011, 03:19:45 PM
can someone tell me how we know murrys height? just wondering not picking a fight.

i'm a lover not a fighter  :D
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: _Anna_ on January 04, 2011, 03:21:11 PM
I don't know his height on documents, but I can appreciate it, and that man is huge. He's at least 6'3" if not even a bit taller.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Tarja on January 04, 2011, 03:21:38 PM
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: looking4truth on January 04, 2011, 03:22:44 PM
Murray's skin reminds me of Michael's beginning stages of vitiligo.

(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6376/vitiligo3tk3.jpg) (http://img522.imageshack.us/i/vitiligo3tk3.jpg/)

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Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 03:23:16 PM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
OMG! Looks like Murray's head imposed over Michaels "I'll-button-up-my-shirt-body"!!!

I really hope this Murray is MJ in disguise!  :?
I can't understand how can someone think it's Michael in disguise when seeing Murray standing. I would at least understand the suspicion when he's sitting, but standing this man is 6'3'', Michael is 5'11. Don't tell me that he can disguise the height too. I'm sorry but it's absurd.

And I thought you were the photoshop expert here? :?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Tarja on January 04, 2011, 03:24:49 PM
souza, really this man is huge. who has technical eye can spot it very very easy. no intention to argue, but this man is at least 1.90 cm
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: _Anna_ on January 04, 2011, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
OMG! Looks like Murray's head imposed over Michaels "I'll-button-up-my-shirt-body"!!!

I really hope this Murray is MJ in disguise!  :?
I can't understand how can someone think it's Michael in disguise when seeing Murray standing. I would at least understand the suspicion when he's sitting, but standing this man is 6'3'', Michael is 5'11. Don't tell me that he can disguise the height too. I'm sorry but it's absurd.

And I thought you were the photoshop expert here? :?
well, of course one can photoshop and put a bigger resized Murray on a smaller background to make him look huge, but it's not only this photo. You've seen Murray on video, didn't you? His height is not fake.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on January 04, 2011, 03:30:08 PM
Murray's unbuttoning  or buttoning up his shirt in front of a WHITE picket fence.

"Meaning of the Color White
White projects purity, cleanliness, and neutrality. Physicians, nurses and lab techs wear white coats, brides traditionally were white gowns and a white picket fence surrounds a safe and happy home.

How the color white effects us mentally and physically
* aids mental clarity
* encourages us to clear clutter or obstacles
* evokes purification of thoughts or actions
* enables fresh beginnings"
(http://communityoflights.com/Communityo ... OLORS.html (http://communityoflights.com/CommunityofLights.com/SPIRITUAL__THE_MEANING_OF_COLORS.html))
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: looking4truth on January 04, 2011, 03:31:31 PM
This is just a question that popped into mind and I'm sorry if this is off topic but if Dr. Conrad Murray is an actor or as some speculate, Michael himself, then what does that mean in the case of James Brown?? Wasn't Conrad Murray Brown's doctor during Brown's last years? I just wonder if this adventure and Brown are connected somehow with this doctor, besides the obvious.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Tarja on January 04, 2011, 03:32:28 PM
I wish I had a video

this looks like a print screen

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9853/107129drconradmurray.jpg) (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/107129drconradmurray.jpg/)
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9545/algconradmurray.jpg) (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/algconradmurray.jpg/)
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1139/drconradmurraycourtroom.jpg) (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/drconradmurraycourtroom.jpg/)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 03:33:20 PM
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
Title: Re: new pic of murry
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on January 04, 2011, 03:35:36 PM
Quote from: "mrtoki"
is it me or is there writing on the fence behind him??? and look at his belt buckle it looks like the eyes of mj..??? look and tell me what u think..
I see the writing...I see a "M" and a "K" as well as some other letters I cant make out. Everything about Murray looks off to me....hes too skinny and I just cant get over his skin and his hands. Not to mention that hes out n about n NOBODY ever approaches him, much less the fact that hes out at all n looking so composed. I'd be a nervous wreck.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Tarja on January 04, 2011, 03:35:47 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.

yes, not actually huge, but a man at his 1.93 is very very tall if we regard the average height of a man. And Michael is way shorter than that.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 04, 2011, 03:38:30 PM
Paisley
Plant symbolism in Indian tradition includes the mango and the lotus flower. Mangos, and mango leaves, have long been used in various parts of India to symbolize fertility and/or good fortune. The typical shapes in Paisley patterns are based on the shape of the mango.
http://www.essortment.com/all/fertilitysymbol_ricd.htm

The Mango
Many plants, flowers, trees and fruit appear as metaphors in the discourses and literature of Buddhism.  For example, Nagarjuna wrote,
"Human beings should be seen as Mangos -- to be distinguished in this manner:

        Unripe but ripe looking,
        ripe but unripe looking,
        unripe and also unripe looking,
        ripe and also ripe looking."

Also, due to the strong tradition of herbal medicine, and the fact that various trees and flowers figure in the life story of the Buddha, growing things are prominently featured in Himalayan iconography, especially in Tibetan painted scrolls [tangkas].

Often, they are featured as offerings.  For example, the twelve animals that "rule" the years of the eastern 60-year cycle are depicted in the Tibetan cosmic chart each one bearing a leafy branch in its right, and a ripe fruit in its left hand.

At the Jewish autumn festival of Sukkot, worshipers also bear a fruit and leafy branches.
http://www.khandro.net/nature_plants.htm

Sukkot
Sukkot(Feast of Booths, Feast of Tabernacles) is a Biblical holiday celebrated on the 15th day of the month of Tishrei: late September to late October).

The Hebrew word sukkōt is the plural of sukkah, "booth or tabernacle", which is a walled structure covered with flora, such as tree branches or bamboo shoots. The sukkah is intended as a reminiscence of the type of fragile dwellings in which the ancient Israelites dwelt during their 40 years of wandering in the desert after the Exodus from Egypt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukkot

This link was previously posted by someone else. I can't recall in which thread that was but I did research this information and it lead to the Feast of Tabernacles.  :shock:

Please click the link to read as it is quite long:
http://ebiblefellowship.com/may21/index.html

Couple of excerpts...

JUDGMENT DAY: MAY 21st, 2011
The Bible teaches that on May 21st, 2011, only true believers elected by God to receive salvation will be raptured (taken up) out of this world to meet the Lord in the air and forever be with the Lord.

Five months after May 21st, 2011 will be October 21st, 2011.  It so happens that October 21st of 2011 is also the last day of the Biblical Feast of Tabernacles (held simultaneously with the Feast of Ingathering). Tabernacles is held in the 7th month of the Hebrew calendar.  The way God speaks of this feast in the Bible is very significant.

The Feast of Tabernacles/Ingathering was said to be in the “end of the year” even though it was observed in the Hebrew 7th month, which is not the end of the year. The reason for this is that the spiritual fulfillment of this particular feast is the end of the world. The date October 21st, 2011 will be the last day of the Feast of Tabernacles and the last day of earth’s existence. The Bible describes what will take place on October 21st, 2011.

All I have to say at this point is wow...a neck tie?

Neckties
Ties have been used to proclaim status, occupation, and even identity, as well as allegiance to a group or cause, often military. After 2,000 years of Tie History, the necktie is still a powerful way to symbolize, commemorate, or show membership.
http://www.shop4ties.com/necktie-history.php
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: looking4truth on January 04, 2011, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.[/color]

Oh okay thanks. I wonder who started that rumor. Hmmm... I guess it'll be a mystery for now.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: backstager on January 04, 2011, 03:41:23 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
can someone tell me how we know murrys height? just wondering not picking a fight.

i'm a lover not a fighter  :D

I don't think anyone knows the exact height, but you can tell just by looking at video that he's well over 6 feet tall. I'd even dare to say 6"6. He towers over the people he's near, which is an indication that he's nowhere near Michael's height, or most average people for that matter. Hope that helps some.  ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 03:44:28 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 03:44:41 PM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
OMG! Looks like Murray's head imposed over Michaels "I'll-button-up-my-shirt-body"!!!

I really hope this Murray is MJ in disguise!  :?
I can't understand how can someone think it's Michael in disguise when seeing Murray standing. I would at least understand the suspicion when he's sitting, but standing this man is 6'3'', Michael is 5'11. Don't tell me that he can disguise the height too. I'm sorry but it's absurd.

And I thought you were the photoshop expert here? :?
well, of course one can photoshop and put a bigger resized Murray on a smaller background to make him look huge, but it's not only this photo. You've seen Murray on video, didn't you? His height is not fake.
I have seen different Murrays, and Mike is the master of illusion. So as long as this Murray looks familiar, I'd say anything is possible.

It has been said many times that Murray is 6'3", same height as Danny Glover who played the president in 2012 and was one of the celebs in the Liberian Girl video. Who knows? But to me it's very possible (definitely with just pictures) that MJ himself wore the mask a few times as well.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Andrea on January 04, 2011, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I have seen different Murrays, and Mike is the master of illusion. So as long as this Murray looks familiar, I'd say anything is possible.

It has been said many times that Murray is 6'3", same height as Danny Glover who played the president in 2012 and was one of the celebs in the Liberian Girl video. Who knows? But to me it's very possible (definitely with just pictures) that MJ himself wore the mask a few times as well.

Yes, I remember the thread on Danny Glover...and he does seem to have "ties" with Michael.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 03:51:59 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
not all Americans are short, there's 900 million people living in America. How in god name you know Americans are short? I'm sorry, but your theory is incorrect
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on January 04, 2011, 03:53:17 PM
Well, he can wear special high heeled shoes (remember "Smooth Criminal" pateted shoes? Anything is possible...)
I'm not saying that I'm sure or believe MJ is Murray but I just wanted to say it would be awesome if it turned up that the role of Murray was played by Michael... This would be a trick of the Millenium...
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: backstager on January 04, 2011, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
not all Americans are short, there's 900 million people living in America. How in god name you Americans are short? I'm sorry, but your theory is incorrect

In a larger scale of things (the world) I would say 6"3 is pretty tall compared to a universal average. Some Americans are tall, ty the way. Not all are short. I'm 14 and 5"6 ... I don't consider myself short.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 03:58:57 PM
Quote from: "backstager"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
not all Americans are short, there's 900 million people living in America. How in god name you Americans are short? I'm sorry, but your theory is incorrect

In a larger scale of things (the world) I would say 6"3 is pretty tall compared to a universal average. Some Americans are tall, ty the way. Not all are short. I'm 14 and 5"6 ... I don't consider myself short.
But she/he said "Americans", its plural. She/he is saying all American are short, i don't but that
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 04:02:29 PM
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
not all Americans are short, there's 900 million people living in America. How in god name you Americans are short? I'm sorry, but your theory is incorrect
You don't have to feel offended, I am simply explaining why I say that Americans are short. What a discussion...

I am also not saying ALL Americans are short, but for me the AVARAGE height of Americans is short, compared to the Dutch:

The Dutch average height (men and women combined) is 6'1", the American male 5'9" and American woman 5' 3.8". But no sweat, nothing to feel offended by... :?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mrtoki on January 04, 2011, 04:19:45 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
not all Americans are short, there's 900 million people living in America. How in god name you Americans are short? I'm sorry, but your theory is incorrect
You don't have to feel offended, I am simply explaining why I say that Americans are short. What a discussion...

I am also not saying ALL Americans are short, but for me the AVARAGE height of Americans is short, compared to the Dutch:

The Dutch average height (men and women combined) is 6'1", the American male 5'9" and American woman 5' 3.8". But no sweat, nothing to feel offended by... :?



talk about going off topic sheeesh
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: "mrtoki"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
not all Americans are short, there's 900 million people living in America. How in god name you Americans are short? I'm sorry, but your theory is incorrect
You don't have to feel offended, I am simply explaining why I say that Americans are short. What a discussion...

I am also not saying ALL Americans are short, but for me the AVARAGE height of Americans is short, compared to the Dutch:

The Dutch average height (men and women combined) is 6'1", the American male 5'9" and American woman 5' 3.8". But no sweat, nothing to feel offended by... :?



talk about going off topic sheeesh

Who me? I didn't make an issue out of it here, I only explained one of my statements after someone clearly felt offended by it. Is there a problem mrtoki?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mrtoki on January 04, 2011, 04:25:40 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mrtoki"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
not all Americans are short, there's 900 million people living in America. How in god name you Americans are short? I'm sorry, but your theory is incorrect
You don't have to feel offended, I am simply explaining why I say that Americans are short. What a discussion...

I am also not saying ALL Americans are short, but for me the AVARAGE height of Americans is short, compared to the Dutch:

The Dutch average height (men and women combined) is 6'1", the American male 5'9" and American woman 5' 3.8". But no sweat, nothing to feel offended by... :?



talk about going off topic sheeesh

Who me? I didn't make an issue out of it here, I only explained one of my statements after someone clearly felt offended by it. Is there a problem mrtoki?


u must be in your menstrual cycle lol ....no theres no problem
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suspicious mind on January 04, 2011, 04:30:25 PM
back on subject i also keep thinking : the ties that bind

yeah point me in the direction of my jacket i know i know  :D
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 04, 2011, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: "mrtoki"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mrtoki"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
not all Americans are short, there's 900 million people living in America. How in god name you Americans are short? I'm sorry, but your theory is incorrect
You don't have to feel offended, I am simply explaining why I say that Americans are short. What a discussion...

I am also not saying ALL Americans are short, but for me the AVARAGE height of Americans is short, compared to the Dutch:

The Dutch average height (men and women combined) is 6'1", the American male 5'9" and American woman 5' 3.8". But no sweat, nothing to feel offended by... :?



talk about going off topic sheeesh

Who me? I didn't make an issue out of it here, I only explained one of my statements after someone clearly felt offended by it. Is there a problem mrtoki?


u must be in your menstrual cycle lol ....no theres no problem

You just got a warning. I do not have to take remarks like that. Ever heard of respect?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: paula-c on January 04, 2011, 04:42:38 PM
In a day like today that the minds of the fans is heated
 Murray gives a walk to exhibiting its new tie without anyone bothered, another photo taken before June 25 or who knows when. In the photos of Murray on the beach is fat, here is weak.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suspicious mind on January 04, 2011, 04:43:21 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mrtoki"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mrtoki"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
not all Americans are short, there's 900 million people living in America. How in god name you Americans are short? I'm sorry, but your theory is incorrect
You don't have to feel offended, I am simply explaining why I say that Americans are short. What a discussion...

I am also not saying ALL Americans are short, but for me the AVARAGE height of Americans is short, compared to the Dutch:

The Dutch average height (men and women combined) is 6'1", the American male 5'9" and American woman 5' 3.8". But no sweat, nothing to feel offended by... :?



talk about going off topic sheeesh

Who me? I didn't make an issue out of it here, I only explained one of my statements after someone clearly felt offended by it. Is there a problem mrtoki?


u must be in your menstrual cycle lol ....no theres no problem

You just got a warning. I do not have to take remarks like that. Ever heard of respect?


oh come on guys PPPPPPPPLLLLEEEEAAASSSSEEEE
i am beggin' here
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on January 04, 2011, 05:02:15 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"


And TMZ is right, that tie is just horrific!
It definitely is; but do you think this tie-thing has a hidden meaning?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on January 04, 2011, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mrtoki"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "mrtoki"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.
what? that's not true,

For me it is imred. I am Dutch and the Dutch are the tallest people in the world. 6'3" is pretty normal here. Both my brothers are that height and my grandpa is as well. I am avarage with my 5'8" and 2 of my friends (women) are between 6' and 6'1". So to me Americans are short.
not all Americans are short, there's 900 million people living in America. How in god name you Americans are short? I'm sorry, but your theory is incorrect
You don't have to feel offended, I am simply explaining why I say that Americans are short. What a discussion...

I am also not saying ALL Americans are short, but for me the AVARAGE height of Americans is short, compared to the Dutch:

The Dutch average height (men and women combined) is 6'1", the American male 5'9" and American woman 5' 3.8". But no sweat, nothing to feel offended by... :?



talk about going off topic sheeesh

Who me? I didn't make an issue out of it here, I only explained one of my statements after someone clearly felt offended by it. Is there a problem mrtoki?


u must be in your menstrual cycle lol ....no theres no problem

You just got a warning. I do not have to take remarks like that. Ever heard of respect?
WTH? Seriously I was reading this thread and saw where it drifted off topic, so I continue to read the novel; it is getting good now...Then BAM this statement by mrtoki...LMAO I REALLY DID. Everything always gets blamed on the woman's time of the month...lol

I am American but, I have Dutch in my family genes...so I am 5' 11 and yes alot of the Americans are short compared to me. I tower over them.  8-)

Peace
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 05:14:46 PM
From another forum

Quote
Muhammad says the doctor asked at one point whether anyone knew CPR.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MJonmind on January 04, 2011, 05:36:26 PM
I remember watching the DVD info of how they make the scale sizes between large Gandalf and hobbit-sized Frodo in the Lord of the Rings, and it was very interesting. But now on Youtube all I could find was this, but it's still giving the idea how an illusion of great height could have been given to Murray throughout this whole hoax. Lord of the Rings is proof it can be done. Then on top of sizing, a disguise. This after all a live Thriller movie. All is possible. Starting at 1:02 and 8:10.
[youtube:2mcmz7xu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEI51ikcMJI&feature=related[/youtube:2mcmz7xu]
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 04, 2011, 05:53:13 PM
Okay, I used to think Murray was just Michael in a really good disguise, then so many people on this forum were calling me crazy & saying rude things so I dropped it :roll: But i don't care, I'm back to thinking that. I saw this picture, and the way he's standing, his eyes, his facial expression & his hands just look like Michael's to me... remember? this guy didn't even exist (technically) before June 25th. We had NO photos of him, until we complained about it, then we got a few supposedly from 2004, but to me Murray looked the exact same. :?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 04, 2011, 05:54:21 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Such a coincidence that the National Photo Group is ALWAYS the one who has exclusive Murray pics. Lucky bastards! :lol:
I can't help it, but that Murray looks so familiar.

And TMZ is right, that tie is just horrific!

Ok, yeah, I was just about to ask who took the picture- as if I really needed to ask.  LOL!  Don't we know they are the ONLY game in town...? :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 04, 2011, 06:02:43 PM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Okay, I used to think Murray was just Michael in a really good disguise, then so many people on this forum were calling me crazy & saying rude things so I dropped it :roll: But i don't care, I'm back to thinking that. I saw this picture, and the way he's standing, his eyes, his facial expression & his hands just look like Michael's to me... remember? this guy didn't even exist (technically) before June 25th. We had NO photos of him, until we complained about it, then we got a few supposedly from 2004, but to me Murray looked the exact same. :?

Are you suggesting that BAM may be Michael removing the Murray mask after a verdict is reached?

How cool what that be! Murray at the Press Conference after the courts verdict is read and he removes the mask. :lol:

My imagination is now getting the better of me!!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Okay, I used to think Murray was just Michael in a really good disguise, then so many people on this forum were calling me crazy & saying rude things so I dropped it :roll: But i don't care, I'm back to thinking that. I saw this picture, and the way he's standing, his eyes, his facial expression & his hands just look like Michael's to me... remember? this guy didn't even exist (technically) before June 25th. We had NO photos of him, until we complained about it, then we got a few supposedly from 2004, but to me Murray looked the exact same. :?

Are you suggesting that BAM may be Michael removing the Murray mask after a verdict is reached?

How cool what that be! Murray at the Press Conference after the courts verdict is read and he removes the mask. :lol:

My imagination is now getting the better of me!!
Yes it would be cool, but you dont want people having heart attacks,lol
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 04, 2011, 06:15:07 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Okay, I used to think Murray was just Michael in a really good disguise, then so many people on this forum were calling me crazy & saying rude things so I dropped it :roll: But i don't care, I'm back to thinking that. I saw this picture, and the way he's standing, his eyes, his facial expression & his hands just look like Michael's to me... remember? this guy didn't even exist (technically) before June 25th. We had NO photos of him, until we complained about it, then we got a few supposedly from 2004, but to me Murray looked the exact same. :?

Are you suggesting that BAM may be Michael removing the Murray mask after a verdict is reached?

How cool what that be! Murray at the Press Conference after the courts verdict is read and he removes the mask. :lol:

My imagination is now getting the better of me!!

 :lol:  :lol: Or Murray just starts busting out in dance moves like the Mayor in Ghosts! :lol: :D
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 04, 2011, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.


I also read it somewhere that Murray is 6'3, I can't find it anymore sorry.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 04, 2011, 06:25:33 PM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Okay, I used to think Murray was just Michael in a really good disguise, then so many people on this forum were calling me crazy & saying rude things so I dropped it :roll: But i don't care, I'm back to thinking that. I saw this picture, and the way he's standing, his eyes, his facial expression & his hands just look like Michael's to me... remember? this guy didn't even exist (technically) before June 25th. We had NO photos of him, until we complained about it, then we got a few supposedly from 2004, but to me Murray looked the exact same. :?


The eyes are not Michael's you can disguise yourself but not the eyes, you can wear contacts but Murray doesn't seem to have contacts. Remember he also was James Brown doctor. How do we explain that? I am sure it was not Michael who diguised himself for James Brown, this Conrad Murray has to exist. I am just thinking here, just a thought.
Blessings
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 04, 2011, 06:28:14 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Okay, I used to think Murray was just Michael in a really good disguise, then so many people on this forum were calling me crazy & saying rude things so I dropped it :roll: But i don't care, I'm back to thinking that. I saw this picture, and the way he's standing, his eyes, his facial expression & his hands just look like Michael's to me... remember? this guy didn't even exist (technically) before June 25th. We had NO photos of him, until we complained about it, then we got a few supposedly from 2004, but to me Murray looked the exact same. :?


The eyes are not Michael's you can disguise yourself but not the eyes, you can wear contacts but Murray doesn't seem to have contacts. Remember he also was James Brown doctor. How do we explain that? I am sure it was not Michael who diguised himself for James Brown, this Conrad Murray has to exist. I am just thinking here, just a thought.
Blessings

Actually, I think there was JUST a report (and it is here somewhere) that he was not James' Brown Doctor according to his widow.  
But no, Murray does seem WAY taller and the eyes do not seem to match up at all.  Even though the mental image of him breaking into dance made me laugh out loud!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 04, 2011, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "Tarja"
this man is really huge and just by looking at him I can tell you he's around 1.90- 1.93 cm
That's not THAT huge. It seems huge because the Americans are all quite short.

@looking4truth: it was denied by James Brown's family recently that Murray was his doctor. I guess it's somewhere on the forum.


I also read it somewhere that Murray is 6'3, I can't find it anymore sorry.

Read this in the "Daily Mail".

At 6ft 4in tall and good-looking, with his Michael Jackson-style afro (Jacko was his favourite singer, even then), the young 'doctor' seemed quite a catch,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1248329/Michael-Jackson-death-Dr-Conrad-Murray-quack-accused-killing-star.html
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 04, 2011, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Okay, I used to think Murray was just Michael in a really good disguise, then so many people on this forum were calling me crazy & saying rude things so I dropped it :roll: But i don't care, I'm back to thinking that. I saw this picture, and the way he's standing, his eyes, his facial expression & his hands just look like Michael's to me... remember? this guy didn't even exist (technically) before June 25th. We had NO photos of him, until we complained about it, then we got a few supposedly from 2004, but to me Murray looked the exact same. :?


The eyes are not Michael's you can disguise yourself but not the eyes, you can wear contacts but Murray doesn't seem to have contacts. Remember he also was James Brown doctor. How do we explain that? I am sure it was not Michael who diguised himself for James Brown, this Conrad Murray has to exist. I am just thinking here, just a thought.
Blessings

Actually, I think there was JUST a report (and it is here somewhere) that he was not James' Brown Doctor according to his widow.  
But no, Murray does seem WAY taller and the eyes do not seem to match up at all.  Even though the mental image of him breaking into dance made me laugh out loud!

Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
James Brown's Wife: My Husband Did Not Recommend Conrad Murray to Michael Jackson
December 22, 2010 by Charles Thomson

Tomi Rae Brown, widow of soul singer James Brown, has denied press reports that her husband was a former patient of Michael Jackson's physician, Dr Conrad Murray.
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=16699&hilit=+james+brown
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 04, 2011, 06:38:58 PM
There's many many ways to make yourself appear taller. Did you see this post by MJonmind?

Quote from: "MJonmind"
I remember watching the DVD info of how they make the scale sizes between large Gandalf and hobbit-sized Frodo in the Lord of the Rings, and it was very interesting. But now on Youtube all I could find was this, but it's still giving the idea how an illusion of great height could have been given to Murray throughout this whole hoax. Lord of the Rings is proof it can be done. Then on top of sizing, a disguise. This after all a live Thriller movie. All is possible. Starting at 1:02 and 8:10.
[youtube:p6i67rci]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEI51ikcMJI&feature=related[/youtube:p6i67rci]

Also...

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQAsuU8ho9m7Gz0LezbYxcFeGZM-wVHomWQs_km2q8I3ou2v-DLKA)

These shoes can raise your heel, making you appear up to 5" taller... it's always a possibility ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 04, 2011, 06:39:23 PM
This is the Same Tie Murray wore while he was given a coffee at starbucks...


viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 04, 2011, 06:42:19 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This is the Same Tie Murray wore while he was given a coffee at starbucks...


viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee)

There HAS to be something significant with the clothing. I mean Katherine Jackson has worn that blue suit EVERYTIME there was something at court with Murray, and she wore it back in '05 at MJ's trial, AND she wore it during the Oprah interview... :shock:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Andrea on January 04, 2011, 06:52:24 PM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This is the Same Tie Murray wore while he was given a coffee at starbucks...


viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee)

There HAS to be something significant with the clothing. I mean Katherine Jackson has worn that blue suit EVERYTIME there was something at court with Murray, and she wore it back in '05 at MJ's trial, AND she wore it during the Oprah interview... :shock:

I knew I had seen that tie somewhere before!!

I think the wardrobe means something too.  It has been speculated that this hoax will eventually be presented in a film...there is always "wardrobe" for movies...wouldn't it be amazing if the filming for this hoax began years ago?  It would make sense though, if the hoax itself has been planned for even longer, as I think it has.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: StrangerInCalifornia on January 04, 2011, 07:23:16 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This is the Same Tie Murray wore while he was given a coffee at starbucks...


viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee)
Good catch!!! There definitely has to be something significant about it! Especially since the title of the story points to the tie and not him getting a bite to eat. That is quite a hideous tie though.....
Title: Re: new pic of murry
Post by: hesouttamylife on January 04, 2011, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: "mrtoki"
is it me or is there writing on the fence behind him??? and look at his belt buckle it looks like the eyes of mj..??? look and tell me what u think..

Either I'm losing it or there's a faint image of MJ's hand and finger on Murray's face :shock:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suspicious mind on January 04, 2011, 08:06:24 PM
Quote from: "StrangerInCalifornia"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This is the Same Tie Murray wore while he was given a coffee at starbucks...


viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee)
Good catch!!! There definitely has to be something significant about it! Especially since the title of the story points to the tie and not him getting a bite to eat. That is quite a hideous tie though.....
does that mean there is something there that we missed or need to be reminded of?
Title: Re: new pic of murry
Post by: Adi on January 04, 2011, 08:09:57 PM
Quote from: "mrtoki"
is it me or is there writing on the fence behind him??? and look at his belt buckle it looks like the eyes of mj..??? look and tell me what u think..

Yep I can see writing on the fence...to me it looks like M 2 K V
Michael 2005 Vendetta???   8-)

I can also see Michael's eyes in the buckle of the belt.

To me there is something very familiar about this picture when compared to Michael. I have read all the debate about the height.....but it seems that can be altered, easily in a still picture like this one. The way  his legs are positioned in this picture, although longer than Michael's, plus the way he is buttoning up his jacket remind me of a similar picture of Michael from the 2005 trial...I can't find it at the moment though.

I would not be surprised at all if it turns out that we have had Michael actually playing the role of Doctor Murray in some parts of this hoax since June 25th 2009 and perhaps we have seen him dressed as the Doctor in alot of the still pictures?
Anyway...just my opinion  :)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: nefari on January 04, 2011, 08:17:26 PM
I'm no expert but I've worked with Photoshop for 9 years and this looks Photoshopped to me. As far as Murray's height, don't know how many times folks have said it. Michael can do height and that is no issue so don't assume just because Murray is a bit taller that it could not be Michael. And 6' 3" is not really tall. My husband is 6' 3" and over half the men in my town are over 6' 3" that we see on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 04, 2011, 08:24:24 PM
Look at Murray's left hand it looks very odd.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/0104-conrad-murray-npg-credit2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: allforus7 on January 04, 2011, 08:25:19 PM
Indeed but, guys, Murray is not Michael Jackson.
This is absurd.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: nefari on January 04, 2011, 08:28:10 PM
lmao!! It looks like he has Thriller claws like a monster  :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: TheRunningGirl on January 04, 2011, 08:50:18 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
Quote from: "StrangerInCalifornia"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This is the Same Tie Murray wore while he was given a coffee at starbucks...


viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9792&hilit=starbucks+coffee)
Good catch!!! There definitely has to be something significant about it! Especially since the title of the story points to the tie and not him getting a bite to eat. That is quite a hideous tie though.....
does that mean there is something there that we missed or need to be reminded of?

Quote from: "MJintrigue2012"
Spiritual meaning of the Paisley
The paisley design is rich in spiritual and symbolic meaning. In India, the paisley signified the time of harvest, a time of both socio-economic and spiritual significance.

The Time of Harvest is the key message here, it links us back to the scriptures and the book of Revelation:

The angels announce that the time of harvest has come, and the words of Jesus in Matthew 13 will be literally fulfilled:
Quote
"The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear." {Matt 13:41-43 NIV}

Then come the angels in the book of Revelation - relevant passage in red:
Quote
<< Revelation 14 >>
King James Version   
1And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

6And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

14And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.


This is the spiritual symbolism behind the trial... This is about bringing GOD JUSTICE

Further link to  a more detailed explanation of the time of Harvest as per the scriptures:
http://www.pbc.org/files/messages/5747/4206.html

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: looking4truth on January 04, 2011, 09:15:25 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Look at Murray's left hand it looks very odd.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/0104-conrad-murray-npg-credit2.jpg)

I think both hands look odd. They are much lighter than usual. I am not sure if Michael is Murray but I get the comparisons with this particular picture. I think it may just be symbolizing the similarities between Murray's case and Michael's. Just a guess.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Lemonbread904 on January 04, 2011, 09:39:55 PM
Guys I have a funny feeling about this picture. Being that he is wearing the same clothes or similar clothes as when he went to Starbucks. Do anyone know when this I guess so call recent picture was taken.  When I took a look at the thread that TMZ done in May 2010 it is the same exact tie and suit. Guys, do you believe that there were more pictures taken that day and this is one of time. It seems like the same images are being circlutating over and over again. I think that there are more pictures with Murray in this suit and there were not taken recently. I would love to hear some of you guys insight on this.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 04, 2011, 09:47:13 PM
There is definitely writing on the fence (or the wall)- and it is M 2 K V

I just said that to my husband and he said_ duh, that is M 2 Thousand Five

Michael 2005

I was like- YES!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: pepper on January 04, 2011, 10:09:50 PM
Quote from: "Lemonbread904"
Guys I have a funny feeling about this picture. Being that he is wearing the same clothes or similar clothes as when he went to Starbucks. Do anyone know when this I guess so call recent picture was taken.  When I took a look at the thread that TMZ done in May 2010 it is the same exact tie and suit. Guys, do you believe that there were more pictures taken that day and this is one of time. It seems like the same images are being circlutating over and over again. I think that there are more pictures with Murray in this suit and there were not taken recently. I would love to hear some of you guys insight on this.

Yes, I was also wondering if both of these pictures were taken the same day. The photo of him in the car has more color in it, more "red" - the photo in front of the fence Murray looks more washed out, more "grey".  And the more I look at the photo in front of the fence - in the larger photo it looks like his right eye has a cataract - it is dull, and the left eye is glossy - also look at the background in between his pant legs.  That green plant that is behind him - it is green on the left, grey in between the pant legs, and then green again on the right.  Photoshop?


(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/05/13/0513-murray-ex-2-credit.jpg)
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/05/13/0513 ... credit.jpg (http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/05/13/0513-murray-ex-2-credit.jpg)

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/04/0104-conrad-murray-npg-credit.jpg)
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/04/0104 ... credit.jpg (http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/04/0104-conrad-murray-npg-credit.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Andrea on January 04, 2011, 10:22:11 PM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
There is definitely writing on the fence (or the wall)- and it is M 2 K V

I just said that to my husband and he said_ duh, that is M 2 Thousand Five

Michael 2005

I was like- YES!

I wonder if the hoax is going for a comparison here.  Between Michael's 2005 trial and Dr. Murray's prelim/possible trial.  Michael - innocent.  Murray - innocent.  Both men up on charges based on false allegations.  It could explain some wardrobe coincidences, especially Katherine.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Guest on January 04, 2011, 10:24:14 PM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
There is definitely writing on the fence (or the wall)- and it is M 2 K V

I just said that to my husband and he said_ duh, that is M 2 Thousand Five

Michael 2005

I was like- YES!
where do you see this> can you circle it please,

edit n/m i see it now
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Adi on January 04, 2011, 10:26:51 PM
Ok well you can call me completely bonkers....but I'm seeing all sorts of things in the bark of the tree (faces, images)

Yes I also see the the M2KV on the fence....posted a bit earlier up the thread about it  :)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Andrea on January 04, 2011, 10:28:32 PM
Has anyone clicked on this yet (from TMZ)?

http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/mj-death- ... -timeline/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/mj-death-investigation-timeline/)

I can't put it on here, I think you actually have to go through the timeline on TMZ's site but it's interesting to see what stories TMZ has hand-picked from June 25th until today and the pictures with each story in the timeline are quite interesting.  Just scroll on the gray arrow thing, it's really neat!

EDIT:

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/04/010311-timelinepromo-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 04, 2011, 10:40:19 PM
Quote from: "Adi"
Ok well you can call me completely bonkers....but I'm seeing all sorts of things in the bark of the tree (faces, images)

Yes I also see the the M2KV on the fence....posted a bit earlier up the thread about it  :)

It is on the white fence behind Murray.  In the enlarged photo you can see the M very clearly.  Can someone who knows what I am talking about and can circle it, circle it?  Adi- yeah, I saw your post which is what had me look.  And then little innocent, fresh-faced (and minded) hubby chimed in.  Bless his heart.

Oh- I just saw you the never mind in the post..Long day...

So what I see is: Micheal 2005 (M 2 K V) - and the meaning is very obvious.  It could be the parallels or that the v has the double meaning of 5 and Vendetta - for what happened to him in 2005- and what he was put through.  I think that is part of it- to finally clear his name (which also would go with the redirect about a good reputation).
Ok, I need to go to bed!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 04, 2011, 10:43:19 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
There is definitely writing on the fence (or the wall)- and it is M 2 K V

I just said that to my husband and he said_ duh, that is M 2 Thousand Five

Michael 2005

I was like- YES!

I wonder if the hoax is going for a comparison here.  Between Michael's 2005 trial and Dr. Murray's prelim/possible trial.  Michael - innocent.  Murray - innocent.  Both men up on charges based on false allegations.  It could explain some wardrobe coincidences, especially Katherine.
La Toya a well.  And now we have a possible Murray repeat (well, if he is not able to pay child support he might not have that many outfirts, but whatever...)- so, maybe it's an instance of HIStory repeating itself.  Only this time- Michael will be TOTALLY cleared and the whole truth will be revealed.  One can hope anyway.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Adi on January 04, 2011, 10:58:17 PM
Quote from: "looking4truth"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Look at Murray's left hand it looks very odd.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/0104-conrad-murray-npg-credit2.jpg)

I think both hands look odd. They are much lighter than usual. I am not sure if Michael is Murray but I get the comparisons with this particular picture. I think it may just be symbolizing the similarities between Murray's case and Michael's. Just a guess.

Yes....his left hand does look very odd indeed.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Lemonbread904 on January 04, 2011, 11:13:07 PM
Guys, also take a look at the pants. Does it not look odd in the way that it seems that it has a lot of wrinkles to be a pants to a suit,  It is like taking a suit jacket w/ a pair of pants and putting them together.  Please look at the pants and give some of your ideas on this matter.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suspicious mind on January 04, 2011, 11:13:30 PM
ok can someone tell me how i can get pics from my photos to a post :oops: sometimes i hate technology :evil:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suspicious mind on January 04, 2011, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: "Lemonbread904"
Guys, also take a look at the pants. Does it not look odd in the way that it seems that it has a lot of wrinkles to be a pants to a suit,  It is like taking a suit jacket w/ a pair of pants and putting them together.  Please look at the pants and give some of your ideas on this matter.


it is just odd looking all together like he is stretched or one person is sat down on top of another. pants seem to be at waistline but also saggy like worn at the hips or like the legs are too long and bunch up.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Adi on January 04, 2011, 11:32:06 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
ok can someone tell me how i can get pics from my photos to a post :oops: sometimes i hate technology :evil:

Me too please  :)

I've just used Paint (yeh I know not very high tech...but it works for me) to invert the colours in these 2 Dr Murray images and I can see Michael's face in that tie and it looks like its an image from the 2005 trial!! but I don't know how to post the pic so it shows up here.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: allforus7 on January 04, 2011, 11:35:37 PM
he is a tall man, his legs are long and thin, disproportioned with the upper part, which is more.."normal" and not skinny,  this is why it looks" weird", i can name in my mind at least 3 of my friends with the same features, it's not that unusual.
To me, Murray does exist and Michael is not disguised as Murray.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suspicious mind on January 04, 2011, 11:44:23 PM
Quote from: "allforus7"
he is a tall man, his legs are long and thin, disproportioned with the upper part, which is more.."normal" and not skinny,  this is why it looks" weird", i can name in my mind at least 3 of my friends with the same features, it's not that unusual.
To me, Murray does exist and Michael is not disguised as Murray.


does this discription match up with the beach pictures? it is so hard unless you can see them side by side. not the running pics. the vacation like ones. i also can't get past the umbilical hernia .
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: scorpionchik on January 04, 2011, 11:45:21 PM
Don't know about the tie, but he looks like pure fall guy. He is perfect  cast for his role as a co-hoaxer.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: lovemj4everandever on January 04, 2011, 11:52:16 PM
Quote from: "nefari"
lmao!! It looks like he has Thriller claws like a monster  :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Grace on January 04, 2011, 11:53:41 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mjintrigue2012"
I apologize beforehand, but I just had to check this out -- Spiritual Meaning of the Paisley.
(http://applesofgold.com/jewelryblog/tag ... e-paisley/ (http://applesofgold.com/jewelryblog/tag/spiritual-meaning-of-the-paisley/))
Here is the info on that link.

Paisley

I never bought any apparel with Paisley on it.
It is of persian (iranian) and indian roots, also represents the uterus and stands for "fruitful" women.
In this case, may fruits be in the thousands and magnificently delicious!  :D
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: lovemj4everandever on January 04, 2011, 11:54:22 PM
Bam Comparison pic

 "I'm gonna button my shirt..."
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 04, 2011, 11:59:21 PM
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
There is definitely writing on the fence (or the wall)- and it is M 2 K V

I just said that to my husband and he said_ duh, that is M 2 Thousand Five

Michael 2005

I was like- YES!
where do you see this> can you circle it please,

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Fence.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Fence2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Adi on January 05, 2011, 12:02:09 AM
Ok...I'll give it a go and try to insert the image....

I have circled where I think I see Michael's picture in the tie in this inverted colour image.

Can anyone else see what I mean?  :)

You may need to zoom in on the picture slightly.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on January 05, 2011, 12:02:36 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "imred"
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
There is definitely writing on the fence (or the wall)- and it is M 2 K V

I just said that to my husband and he said_ duh, that is M 2 Thousand Five

Michael 2005

I was like- YES!
where do you see this> can you circle it please,

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Fence.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Fence2.jpg)
2+0+0+5= 7 ??
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 12:13:33 AM
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on January 05, 2011, 12:21:14 AM
He's tie-ing himself into a nice big KNOT.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Grace on January 05, 2011, 12:31:00 AM
Well the pics are "re-worked" ones (zoom in), that's why the jacket looks so "straight" and the skin looks so "different". Somebody wanted him appear really "smooth" without any wrinkles or spots. At least he did not lose those many eyes - this time appearing on his face.
As to this at least, we're seeing the same Doc like at the pool. LOL

But I still think there are at least two Docs - the sportive one running on the beach and the one who appears in court and on other important occasions.
Even with sun-tan and photoshop, there is no reason why skin should change colour and look this dramatically. Current Doc has completely lost his legs and arms compared to the pool guy.
I wish him well, he's still needed.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Adi on January 05, 2011, 12:56:23 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.

In the Metric system of measurements/weights/distances etc  K represents 1000....so maybe it is a mixture of Roman numerals and the metric system.

So, for example, 1 kilometre (1k) this would be 1000 meters. Or 1 kilogram (1kg) in weight = 1000grams.
 
Therefore if we take M=Michael (and not a number), 2 is just 2, K=1000, V= 5 .... then it would be:  Michael 2005  :)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: lovemj4everandever on January 05, 2011, 01:04:31 AM
Quote from: "Adi"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.

In the Metric system of measurements/weights/distances etc  K represents 1000....so maybe it is a mixture of Roman numerals and the metric system.

So, for example, 1 kilometre (1k) this would be 1000 meters. Or 1 kilogram (1kg) in weight = 1000grams.
 
Therefore if we take M=Michael (and not a number), 2 is just 2, K=1000, V= 5 .... then it would be:  Michael 2005  :)


I completely agree - Michael 2005 (Vendetta)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: heisinme09 on January 05, 2011, 01:44:48 AM
These are my thoughts after reading through this entire thread:

1) The comment that this picture could have been taken on the same day as the Starbuck's pic from months ago due to the clothes/tie that Murray is wearing...BRILLIANT observation....the pic was taken by Evanstad, as all are in this hoax...just because TMZ says that the pic was taken this morning before court MEANS NOTHING!

2) That being said, I don't yet ascribe to the theories that Michael is actually literally playing major roles in the Hoax like Dave Dave/Murray/even his own mother, for God's sake, in the Oprah interview....no, I just don't go there....haven't been convinced of that yet, but I am always open to changing my mind about literally ANYTHING in this hoax....perhaps I say this because I still to this day have trouble believing that the Mayor in Ghost is Michael....which I know is a fact....I don't know....I guess anything is possible....yet I have to apply logic at all times and have a hard time believing that he is literally masquerading as all these various characters....but I may be proved wrong about this in the future and will gladly eat a heapin' pile of crow then.

3) The title of this article struck me....I know we used to take the first initials of the article titles and play around with those....this would be:

DCMTOO

I see Roman numerals here and also the word, "too"....D C M too....would could this possibly mean? Any ideas, folks?

Thanks and Peace to you all during the emotional days ahead as this hearing plays out....it does stir stuff up in your gut....whenever actual courtroom proceedings happen during the Hoax, it gets awfully real feeling and it makes me realize I have to do a gut check and be completely honest with myself about what I believe...despite everything I've seen today, my gut tells me that Michael is very much alive and we are in the middle of the most amazing thing we've ever experienced in our lives before....it really is.....Man!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Elsa on January 05, 2011, 01:49:45 AM
Okay for DCMTOO
Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On

Dr Murray TOO? This is also a Dr Murray.
or
C(see) M(ichael) TOO?
or
C(see) M 2 (on the fence)?

The expression 'ties one on' - isn't it a reference to drinking or being intoxicated? or is it meaning 'tries one on'?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 01:51:06 AM
Quote from: "Adi"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.

In the Metric system of measurements/weights/distances etc  K represents 1000....so maybe it is a mixture of Roman numerals and the metric system.

So, for example, 1 kilometre (1k) this would be 1000 meters. Or 1 kilogram (1kg) in weight = 1000grams.
 
Therefore if we take M=Michael (and not a number), 2 is just 2, K=1000, V= 5 .... then it would be:  Michael 2005  :)
It's a possibility but I am having a bit of trouble with the idea that it is kilograms, which is not the American measurement system and Roman numerals combined plus the alphabet.
And you are using the V for the Roman Numeral for 5 so it isn't Vendetta.

I have been searching for something that might fit better (without representing 3 different things letters, measurement and Roman numerals.)
So far I haven't settled on anything but I did find something kind of intriguing.

KV
abbreviation for
(Music / Classical Music) Köchel Verzeichnis
[German, literally: Köchel catalogue]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/KV

Köchel Catalogue
The Köchel-Verzeichnis is a complete, chronological catalogue of compositions by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756–91) which was originally created by Ludwig von Köchel. It is abbreviated K or KV. For example, Mozart's Requiem in D minor was, according to Köchel's counting, the 626th piece Mozart composed. Thus, the piece is designated K. 626 or KV 626 (6+2+6 = 14/2= 7 or 77). Köchel catalogue numbers not only attempt to establish chronology, but also give a helpful shorthand to refer to Mozart's works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6chel_catalogue

The Requiem Mass in D minor
The Requiem Mass in D minor (K. 626) by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart was composed in Vienna in 1791 and left unfinished at the composer's death. A completion by Franz Xaver Süssmayr was delivered to Count Franz von Walsegg, who had anonymously commissioned the piece for a requiem mass to commemorate the February 14 anniversary of his wife's death.

Many myths and controversies surrounded the piece, especially around how much of the piece was completed by Mozart before his death. (reminds me of the controversy surrounding the album "Michael") The autograph manuscript shows the finished and orchestrated introit in Mozart's hand, as well as detailed sketches of the Kyrie and the sequence Dies irae as far as the first nine bars of "Lacrimosa", and the vocal parts of the offertory. It cannot be shown to what extent Süßmeyr may have depended on now lost "scraps of paper" for the remainder; he later claimed the Sanctus and Agnus as his own.

Walsegg probably intended to pass the Requiem off as his own composition, as he is known to have done with other works. This plan was frustrated by a public benefit performance for Mozart's widow Constanze. A modern contribution to the mythology is Peter Shaffer's 1979 play Amadeus, in which the mysterious messenger with the commission is the masked Antonio Salieri who intends to claim authorship for himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requiem_%28Mozart%29

Requiem (Noun)
1. (Christianity / Roman Catholic Church) RC Church a Mass celebrated for the dead
2. (Music / Classical Music) (Christianity / Roman Catholic Church) a musical setting of this Mass
3. (Music, other) any piece of music composed or performed as a memorial to a dead person or persons
[from Latin requiēs rest, from the opening of the introit, Requiem aeternam dona eis
Rest eternal grant unto them]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Requiem

Mozart: REQUIEM - The New Dimension of Sound Special Presentation to the Memory of Michael Jackson [7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio Disc] [Blu-ray]

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    * Number of discs: 1
    * Rated: G (General Audience)
    * Studio: MediaInVision/Surround Records
    * DVD Release Date: October 29, 2010 (but not released?)[/color]
    * Run Time: 47 minutes
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Mozart: Requiem Blu-ray (The New Dimension of Sound Special Presentation to the Memory of Michael Jackson)
Release Date: Jan 26, 2011
Mozart: Requiem Blu-ray is coming out for the thats all the info we have at the moment.

http://www.releasedon.com/blu-ray/mozart-requiem-blu-ray-release-date-2456.html

A Blu-ray that is only an audio disc or is there video on this too and what is it?
This might be KV and if it is then what is M2?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MJonmind on January 05, 2011, 02:02:32 AM
This is huge!  "I'm going to button my shirt!" BAM coming and Michael 2005 Vendetta gives us the clear message for
this courtroom drama. My impression of the Murray pic was that he looked like a model posing, and he sure is
posing for a purpose!! If he truly represent MJ in this hoax just as he spoke Michael's message on Youtube, then here
he gives the message that he is cool calm and collected. He just went out for a bite of breakfast. Here's Human Nature.
Quote
"Human Nature"

Looking Out
Across The Night-Time
The City Winks A Sleepless Eye
Hear Her Voice
Shake My Window
Sweet Seducing Sighs

Get Me Out
Into The Night-Time
Four Walls Won’t Hold Me Tonight
If This Town
Is Just An Apple
Then Let Me Take A Bite

If They Say -
Why, Why, Tell ‘Em That Is Human Nature
Why, Why, Does He Do Me That Way
If They Say -
Why, Why, Tell ‘Em That Is Human Nature
Why, Why, Does He Do Me That Way

Reaching Out
To Touch A Stranger
Electric Eyes Are Ev’rywhere
See That Girl
She Knows I’m Watching
She Likes The Way I Stare

If They Say -
Why, Why, Tell ‘Em That Is Human Nature
Why, Why, Does He Do Me That Way
If They Say -
Why, Why, Tell ‘Em That Is Human Nature
Why, Why, Does He Do Me That Way
I Like Livin’ This Way
I Like Lovin’ This Way

Looking Out
Across The Morning
The City’s Heart Begins To Beat
Reaching Out
I Touch Her Shoulder
I’m Dreaming Of The Street

If They Say -
Why, Why, Tell ‘Em That Is Human Nature
Why, Why, Does He Do Me That Way
If They Say -
Why, Why, Tell ‘Em That Is Human Nature
Why, Why, Does He Do Me That Way
I Like Livin’ This Way
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Adi on January 05, 2011, 02:22:25 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Adi"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.

In the Metric system of measurements/weights/distances etc  K represents 1000....so maybe it is a mixture of Roman numerals and the metric system.

So, for example, 1 kilometre (1k) this would be 1000 meters. Or 1 kilogram (1kg) in weight = 1000grams.
 
Therefore if we take M=Michael (and not a number), 2 is just 2, K=1000, V= 5 .... then it would be:  Michael 2005  :)
It's a possibility but I am having a bit of trouble with the idea that it is kilograms, which is not the American measurement system and Roman numerals combined plus the alphabet.
And you are using the V for the Roman Numeral for 5 so it isn't Vendetta.

I have been searching for something that might fit better (without representing 3 different things letters, measurement and Roman numerals.)
So far I haven't settled on anything but I did find something kind of intriguing.

KV
abbreviation for
(Music / Classical Music) Köchel Verzeichnis
[German, literally: Köchel catalogue]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/KV

Köchel Catalogue
The Köchel-Verzeichnis is a complete, chronological catalogue of compositions by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756–91) which was originally created by Ludwig von Köchel. It is abbreviated K or KV. For example, Mozart's Requiem in D minor was, according to Köchel's counting, the 626th piece Mozart composed. Thus, the piece is designated K. 626 or KV 626 (6+2+6 = 14/2= 7 or 77). Köchel catalogue numbers not only attempt to establish chronology, but also give a helpful shorthand to refer to Mozart's works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6chel_catalogue

The Requiem Mass in D minor
The Requiem Mass in D minor (K. 626) by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart was composed in Vienna in 1791 and left unfinished at the composer's death. A completion by Franz Xaver Süssmayr was delivered to Count Franz von Walsegg, who had anonymously commissioned the piece for a requiem mass to commemorate the February 14 anniversary of his wife's death.

Many myths and controversies surrounded the piece, especially around how much of the piece was completed by Mozart before his death. (reminds me of the controversy surrounding the album "Michael") The autograph manuscript shows the finished and orchestrated introit in Mozart's hand, as well as detailed sketches of the Kyrie and the sequence Dies irae as far as the first nine bars of "Lacrimosa", and the vocal parts of the offertory. It cannot be shown to what extent Süßmeyr may have depended on now lost "scraps of paper" for the remainder; he later claimed the Sanctus and Agnus as his own.

Walsegg probably intended to pass the Requiem off as his own composition, as he is known to have done with other works. This plan was frustrated by a public benefit performance for Mozart's widow Constanze. A modern contribution to the mythology is Peter Shaffer's 1979 play Amadeus, in which the mysterious messenger with the commission is the masked Antonio Salieri who intends to claim authorship for himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requiem_%28Mozart%29

Requiem (Noun)
1. (Christianity / Roman Catholic Church) RC Church a Mass celebrated for the dead
2. (Music / Classical Music) (Christianity / Roman Catholic Church) a musical setting of this Mass
3. (Music, other) any piece of music composed or performed as a memorial to a dead person or persons
[from Latin requiēs rest, from the opening of the introit, Requiem aeternam dona eis
Rest eternal grant unto them]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Requiem

Mozart: REQUIEM - The New Dimension of Sound Special Presentation to the Memory of Michael Jackson [7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio Disc] [Blu-ray]

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    * Directors: Surround Records International Orchestra and Chorus
    * Format: HiFi Sound, Surround Sound
    * Region: Region 1 (U.S. and Canada only. Read more about DVD formats.)
    * Number of discs: 1
    * Rated: G (General Audience)
    * Studio: MediaInVision/Surround Records
    * DVD Release Date: October 29, 2010 (but not released?)[/color]
    * Run Time: 47 minutes
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Mozart: Requiem Blu-ray (The New Dimension of Sound Special Presentation to the Memory of Michael Jackson)
Release Date: Jan 26, 2011
Mozart: Requiem Blu-ray is coming out for the thats all the info we have at the moment.

http://www.releasedon.com/blu-ray/mozart-requiem-blu-ray-release-date-2456.html

A Blu-ray that is only an audio disc or is there video on this too and what is it?
This might be KV and if it is then what is M2?

That is very interesting.

However, you will find that the majority of the countries in the world actually do use the Metric system, with the United States being an exception, along with Burma and Liberia.

Afterall, it is a world wide hoax/staged death/ alternate reality game/reality movie/Thriller II.....and Michael has fans in ALL countries of the world.

In this hidden "message" on the fence  a  combination of alpha-numeric, the Metric system and Roman Numerals actually does fit better for me and is a bit quicker and simplier for people to grasp.....and also relates to what TMZ and TS/TIAI have directed us to the past days about Michael's vendetta and being on trial.

M2KV...Michael 2005
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Tarja on January 05, 2011, 02:27:32 AM
I personally see M L (or 2) R (or K) V
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 02:37:46 AM
The hiding the cream story?

Song Name: Cream
Artist: HIDE
Album: Be Human
Year: 2003

hide (musician)
Hideto Matsumoto( December 13, 1964 – May 2, 1998), better known by his mononymous stage name "hide" (always written in lowercase letters), was a popular Japanese musician. He was primarily known for his work as lead guitarist of the heavy metal band X Japan from 1987 to 1997. He was also a successful solo artist and co-founder of the United States based band Zilch.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Hidetll.jpg/167px-Hidetll.jpg)

May 2, 1998: Death
Hideto Matsumoto died on May 2, 1998. After a night out drinking, he was found hanged with a towel tied to a doorknob in his Tokyo apartment. Authorities officially deemed Matsumoto's death a suicide, and this verdict was reported in the media. Within one week, three fans had died in copycat suicides, and of the 50,000 people who attended his funeral in Tsukiji Hongan-ji, nearly 60 were hospitalized and about 200 received medical treatment in first aid tents. Later that month, the single "Pink Spider" was released, entering the Oricon charts at number one. The song would also receive that year's MTV Video Music Award in the category "Japan Viewers Choice". Sales were also strong for the follow up single "Ever Free", while those of a single released previous to his death "Rocket Dive" would also see a substantial increase. American Journalist Neil Strauss commented on the trend saying that: "In just a few weeks, pop culture in Japan had gone from mourning hide's death to consuming it." Popular interpretation of the lyrics to hide's "Pink Spider", which he had performed on the day prior to his death, fueled speculation of a premeditated suicide, because of clear autobiographical elements, and the song's theme of escape from the vicissitudes of life.

Meanwhile, several of hide's friends and colleagues stated that they believed the auto-strangulation to have been an accident, among them X Japan co-founder Yoshiki Hayashi and former X Japan bassist Taiji Sawada. This notion is supported by the fact that no suicide note was left and Sawada theorizes in his autobiography, that at the night of his death, hide may have been practising a technique to relieve upper back and neck pains which guitarists can suffer from continuous use of a shoulder strap. The technique involved was practised by the X Japan members during their touring days and required the use of a towel and a door knob or handle. According to Sawada, Matsumoto may have fallen asleep in his intoxicated state, becoming caught and strangling himself.

Zilch bassist Paul Raven commented that hide was "under a lot of stress", due to recording schedule for the Ja, Zoo album. He went on to question the ultimate degree of hide's involvement in the finished record, stating that only three songs had been completed before he died. Ja, Zoo was released in November of the same year with the artist listed as not just "hide" but as "hide with Spread Beaver", making it the only original studio album to bear the "hide with Spread Beaver" handle. Zilch's debut album 3.2.1. was also released and the group continued to perform and record for several years. While they never achieved mainstream success in the United States one of their songs was included on the soundtrack for Heavy Metal 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hide_%28musician%29

Some things sound so familiar from Michael and other mysterious celebrity deaths.

[youtube:m1zm3a90]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uy1KBVGSHg[/youtube:m1zm3a90]
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 02:53:24 AM
M2
Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa, the second Madagascar film
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2

(http://www.mobot.org/mobot/research/madagascar/images/madagloc.gif)

Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa
The sequel to 2005's "Madagascar", in which New York Zoo animals, Alex the Lion, Marty the Zebra, Melman the Giraffe and Gloria the Hippo, still stranded on Madagascar, start to leave the island. All of a sudden, they land in the wilderness of Africa, where Alex meets the rest of his family, but has trouble communicating with them after spending so much time at the Central Park Zoo.

Cast
Chris Rock   ...    Marty / Additional Zebras (voice)
Will i Am    ...    Moto Moto (voice)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0479952/
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Tarja on January 05, 2011, 02:58:32 AM
looking at the fence again. Is that MLKV? The first thing that comes into my mind seeing MLK is Martin Luther King. But anyway, as always I don't give attention to things like these, as they are very subjective and highly possible to be coincidence
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on January 05, 2011, 03:10:01 AM
Posting just for comparison...

(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2005/news/050321/mjackson3.jpg)

(http://home.earthlink.net/~progress/mjcolor.jpg)

(http://www.pe.com/imagesdaily/2004/08-20/jackson-family-300.jpg)


When I'll se Murray in pajamas - I think I'll finally order my straight jacket!  :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 05, 2011, 03:12:03 AM
The white fence and the tree reminds me of the Hold My Hand video - the scene with that man with no hands

Weren't we discussing Murray's tie in the past as well? Yellow is still there...
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Glinda on January 05, 2011, 03:24:34 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/13/dr-conrad ... slaughter/ (http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/13/dr-conrad-murray-picture-michael-jackson-houston-starbucks-manslaughter/)


Same old tie, where is the coffee? :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: The Little Mermaid on January 05, 2011, 03:41:35 AM
Since it's the same old tie from when he got Starbucks, why is TMZ drawing attention to it now? o_o
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 05, 2011, 03:47:01 AM
Quote from: "heisinme09"
These are my thoughts after reading through this entire thread:

1) The comment that this picture could have been taken on the same day as the Starbuck's pic from months ago due to the clothes/tie that Murray is wearing...BRILLIANT observation....the pic was taken by Evanstad, as all are in this hoax...just because TMZ says that the pic was taken this morning before court MEANS NOTHING!

2) That being said, I don't yet ascribe to the theories that Michael is actually literally playing major roles in the Hoax like Dave Dave/Murray/even his own mother, for God's sake, in the Oprah interview....no, I just don't go there....haven't been convinced of that yet, but I am always open to changing my mind about literally ANYTHING in this hoax....perhaps I say this because I still to this day have trouble believing that the Mayor in Ghost is Michael....which I know is a fact....I don't know....I guess anything is possible....yet I have to apply logic at all times and have a hard time believing that he is literally masquerading as all these various characters....but I may be proved wrong about this in the future and will gladly eat a heapin' pile of crow then.

3) The title of this article struck me....I know we used to take the first initials of the article titles and play around with those....this would be:

DCMTOO

I see Roman numerals here and also the word, "too"....D C M too....would could this possibly mean? Any ideas, folks?

Thanks and Peace to you all during the emotional days ahead as this hearing plays out....it does stir stuff up in your gut....whenever actual courtroom proceedings happen during the Hoax, it gets awfully real feeling and it makes me realize I have to do a gut check and be completely honest with myself about what I believe...despite everything I've seen today, my gut tells me that Michael is very much alive and we are in the middle of the most amazing thing we've ever experienced in our lives before....it really is.....Man!

Yes it was hard to know it was Michael in Ghost, but the eyes, you could have seen it was Michael's eyes. Look at the picture of Murray, the eyes are not Michaels. You can disguise your face body, but how can you disguise the eyes?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Glinda on January 05, 2011, 03:50:30 AM
http://symboldictionary.net/?p=1153 (http://symboldictionary.net/?p=1153)  a.k.a the starbuckslogo.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on January 05, 2011, 04:02:34 AM
Quote from: "Andrea"

Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray-preliminary-hearing-suit-photo-court/)
7 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  

Dr. Conrad Murray stopped to have breakfast in downtown Los Angeles before heading to court today for the first day of his preliminary hearing in the Michael Jackson manslaughter case.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/04/0104-conrad-murray-npg-credit.jpg)

They should throw the book at him ... for wearing that tie.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-j ... oto-court/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray-preliminary-hearing-suit-photo-court/)


Looks like a tie from the 1970's?  :?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: nefari on January 05, 2011, 05:23:28 AM
I would think the making of Thriller is enough to convince people how one can disguise their eyes :lol:
And on another note it's interesting with the controversy of the disappearing Prince symbol on the Michael album cover and now we have a Paisley patterned tie on Murray. Prince has a song called Paisley Park.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suspicious mind on January 05, 2011, 06:01:28 AM
Quote from: "Elsa"
Okay for DCMTOO
Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On

[color=#FF0000]Dr Murray TOO[/color]? This is also a Dr Murray.
or
C(see) M(ichael) TOO?
or
C(see) M 2 (on the fence)?

The expression 'ties one on' - isn't it a reference to drinking or being intoxicated? or is it meaning 'tries one on'?

makes me think of two things considering this picture show vitiligo type skin issue i have to wonder if there i somehting about that. and lisa reference to intoxicated in the O interview.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: nefari on January 05, 2011, 06:18:48 AM
Did Michael have a drinking problem possibly just for the sake of investigating? Surely not. I just cannot see him over indulging in alcohol.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: rowdyangel on January 05, 2011, 06:26:29 AM
Quote from: "nefari"
I would think the making of Thriller is enough to convince people how one can disguise their eyes :lol:
And on another note it's interesting with the controversy of the disappearing Prince symbol on the Michael album cover and now we have a Paisley patterned tie on Murray. Prince has a song called Paisley Park.

Prince also had a song called 'Cream' in 1991.  Maybe a reference to the alleged 'cream' that Murray wanted to go back to the house for (which a lot of people say was a ploy to remove evidence from the scene).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cream_(song)

Seriously, I will freak out if I see anyone connected to this wearing a Raspberry Beret or driving a Little Red Corvette  :D  :D   All joking aside though.  So much weirdness.  :?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on January 05, 2011, 06:27:45 AM
DCMTOO (haven't did this in a while, so give me props for this)

D=4
C=3
M=13
T=20
O=15
O=15
_______
70; 7+0= 7
Just sayin'.

--reason
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 06:31:01 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.

the value for number 50 in roman is the letter L, not K

K does not exist in roman values as far as i am concerned.

Looking at the shape, it could be the letter X which has the value of number 10.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on January 05, 2011, 06:31:15 AM
What's up with all the Prince connections? I'm a new fan of him, so I don't really know much about him. I just know that he and Mike are around the same age.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 06:35:32 AM
Quote from: "Adi"
Quote from: "looking4truth"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Look at Murray's left hand it looks very odd.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/0104-conrad-murray-npg-credit2.jpg)

I think both hands look odd. They are much lighter than usual. I am not sure if Michael is Murray but I get the comparisons with this particular picture. I think it may just be symbolizing the similarities between Murray's case and Michael's. Just a guess.

Yes....his left hand does look very odd indeed.

Looks like bones.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: nefari on January 05, 2011, 06:36:54 AM
Is anyone in this fiasco named Nicole? Just thinking about Prince singing "Darling Nikki" so maybe Murray was talking to a hooker named Nikki?!! 8-)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 06:38:06 AM
Where does the hooker come inside the picture? :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: nefari on January 05, 2011, 06:41:35 AM
I think Murray was said to be on the phone with a stripper at one time so I just threw in the hooker for good measure.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: TheRunningGirl on January 05, 2011, 06:45:56 AM
Quote from: "mjintrigue2012"
I apologize beforehand, but I just had to check this out -- Spiritual Meaning of the Paisley.
(http://applesofgold.com/jewelryblog/tag ... e-paisley/ (http://applesofgold.com/jewelryblog/tag/spiritual-meaning-of-the-paisley/))

Interesting description - Do you think that this could mean Time to Harvest?

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 06:47:35 AM
MKV

K= Potassium= 19
V= Vandium= 23

Elements containing M
Cm= Curium
Mg= Magnesium
Pm=Promethium
Sm= Samarium
Mn= Manganese
Fm= Fremium
Tm= Thulium
Md= Mendelevium
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: TheRunningGirl on January 05, 2011, 06:57:36 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Adi"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.

In the Metric system of measurements/weights/distances etc  K represents 1000....so maybe it is a mixture of Roman numerals and the metric system.

So, for example, 1 kilometre (1k) this would be 1000 meters. Or 1 kilogram (1kg) in weight = 1000grams.
 
Therefore if we take M=Michael (and not a number), 2 is just 2, K=1000, V= 5 .... then it would be:  Michael 2005  :)
It's a possibility but I am having a bit of trouble with the idea that it is kilograms, which is not the American measurement system and Roman numerals combined plus the alphabet.
And you are using the V for the Roman Numeral for 5 so it isn't Vendetta.

I have been searching for something that might fit better (without representing 3 different things letters, measurement and Roman numerals.)
So far I haven't settled on anything but I did find something kind of intriguing.

KV
abbreviation for
(Music / Classical Music) Köchel Verzeichnis
[German, literally: Köchel catalogue]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/KV

Köchel Catalogue
The Köchel-Verzeichnis is a complete, chronological catalogue of compositions by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart (1756–91) which was originally created by Ludwig von Köchel. It is abbreviated K or KV. For example, Mozart's Requiem in D minor was, according to Köchel's counting, the 626th piece Mozart composed. Thus, the piece is designated K. 626 or KV 626 (6+2+6 = 14/2= 7 or 77). Köchel catalogue numbers not only attempt to establish chronology, but also give a helpful shorthand to refer to Mozart's works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6chel_catalogue

The Requiem Mass in D minor
The Requiem Mass in D minor (K. 626) by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart was composed in Vienna in 1791 and left unfinished at the composer's death. A completion by Franz Xaver Süssmayr was delivered to Count Franz von Walsegg, who had anonymously commissioned the piece for a requiem mass to commemorate the February 14 anniversary of his wife's death.

Many myths and controversies surrounded the piece, especially around how much of the piece was completed by Mozart before his death. (reminds me of the controversy surrounding the album "Michael") The autograph manuscript shows the finished and orchestrated introit in Mozart's hand, as well as detailed sketches of the Kyrie and the sequence Dies irae as far as the first nine bars of "Lacrimosa", and the vocal parts of the offertory. It cannot be shown to what extent Süßmeyr may have depended on now lost "scraps of paper" for the remainder; he later claimed the Sanctus and Agnus as his own.

Walsegg probably intended to pass the Requiem off as his own composition, as he is known to have done with other works. This plan was frustrated by a public benefit performance for Mozart's widow Constanze. A modern contribution to the mythology is Peter Shaffer's 1979 play Amadeus, in which the mysterious messenger with the commission is the masked Antonio Salieri who intends to claim authorship for himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Requiem_%28Mozart%29

Requiem (Noun)
1. (Christianity / Roman Catholic Church) RC Church a Mass celebrated for the dead
2. (Music / Classical Music) (Christianity / Roman Catholic Church) a musical setting of this Mass
3. (Music, other) any piece of music composed or performed as a memorial to a dead person or persons
[from Latin requiēs rest, from the opening of the introit, Requiem aeternam dona eis
Rest eternal grant unto them]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Requiem

Mozart: REQUIEM - The New Dimension of Sound Special Presentation to the Memory of Michael Jackson [7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio Disc] [Blu-ray]

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Mozart: Requiem Blu-ray (The New Dimension of Sound Special Presentation to the Memory of Michael Jackson)
Release Date: Jan 26, 2011
Mozart: Requiem Blu-ray is coming out for the thats all the info we have at the moment.

http://www.releasedon.com/blu-ray/mozart-requiem-blu-ray-release-date-2456.html

A Blu-ray that is only an audio disc or is there video on this too and what is it?
This might be KV and if it is then what is M2?

M 2 k V = M 2005 = Michael 2005 ----> "Parallels with the 2005 Trials"

It is a small "k" and the small k is a common abbreviation for thousand.

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 07:12:29 AM
M2KV

I checked theoremas and formulations and the most logic imo is this
M2KV is a device driver
http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/M2KV (http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/M2KV)

Drivers? the ones La Toya took?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 07:13:45 AM
Quote from: "TheRunningGirl"

It is a small "k" and the small k is a common abbreviation for thousand.

With L.O.V.E

For currency (money), right?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 09:35:01 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.

the value for number 50 in roman is the letter L, not K

K does not exist in roman values as far as i am concerned.

Looking at the shape, it could be the letter X which has the value of number 10.

The tenth V or X along the stick received an extra stroke. Thus 50 was written variously as N, И, K, Ψ etc., but perhaps most often as a chicken-track shape like a superimposed V and I - ᗐ. This had flattened to an inverted T by the time of Augustus, and soon thereafter became identified with the graphically similar letter L.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals

I don't make things up Gema...

I tried to find how "K" could be a Roman Numeral, if V and M were also Roman Numerals.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 09:44:30 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.

the value for number 50 in roman is the letter L, not K

K does not exist in roman values as far as i am concerned.

Looking at the shape, it could be the letter X which has the value of number 10.

The tenth V or X along the stick received an extra stroke. Thus 50 was written variously as N, И, K, Ψ etc., but perhaps most often as a chicken-track shape like a superimposed V and I - ᗐ. This had flattened to (an inverted T) by the time of Augustus, and soon thereafter became identified with the graphically similar letter L.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals

I don't make things up Gema...

I don´t say you make things up  :? Are you angry, or?

I repeat, the Roman numerical system known internationally per se do not have the letter K in them.
My correction is right since you gave the correct numerical values to the other letters, so I assume that you referred to Roman letters/ values, not the evolution of it from Greek to Latin.

The number 50 is represented with the letter L.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.

the value for number 50 in roman is the letter L, not K

K does not exist in roman values as far as i am concerned.

Looking at the shape, it could be the letter X which has the value of number 10.

The tenth V or X along the stick received an extra stroke. Thus 50 was written variously as N, И, K, Ψ etc., but perhaps most often as a chicken-track shape like a superimposed V and I - ᗐ. This had flattened to an inverted T by the time of Augustus, and soon thereafter became identified with the graphically similar letter L.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals

I don't make things up Gema...

I tried to find how "K" could be a Roman Numeral, if V and M were also Roman Numerals.

I just noticed this part that you just edited when I was writing my response to you.

I do not understand what you mean with "I tried to find how "K" could be a Roman Numeral, if V and M were also Roman Numerals"

The Roman letter/ numerical system has been stablished as we know it and K is not part of it.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Guest on January 05, 2011, 09:51:16 AM
The "K' means thousand, get over it :roll:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 09:52:33 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "TheRunningGirl"

It is a small "k" and the small k is a common abbreviation for thousand.

With L.O.V.E

For currency (money), right?

If it is for money M2 also represents money.

M2
M2 (economics), a measure of the money supply
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2

M2: represents money and "close substitutes" for money. M2 is a broader classification of money than M1. Economists use M2 when looking to quantify the amount of money in circulation and trying to explain different economic monetary conditions. M2 is a key economic indicator used to forecast inflation.

"V" is also as a symbol in economics.

V
V is the number of times per year each dollar is spent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_%28economics%29#Empirical_measures

Not sure what to make of these letters...multiple layers, something already posted or totally meaningless.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 09:56:48 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.

the value for number 50 in roman is the letter L, not K

K does not exist in roman values as far as i am concerned.

Looking at the shape, it could be the letter X which has the value of number 10.

The tenth V or X along the stick received an extra stroke. Thus 50 was written variously as N, И, K, Ψ etc., but perhaps most often as a chicken-track shape like a superimposed V and I - ᗐ. This had flattened to an inverted T by the time of Augustus, and soon thereafter became identified with the graphically similar letter L.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals

I don't make things up Gema...

I tried to find how "K" could be a Roman Numeral, if V and M were also Roman Numerals.

I just noticed this part that you just edited when I was writing my response to you.

I do not understand what you mean with "I tried to find how "K" could be a Roman Numeral, if V and M were also Roman Numerals"

The Roman letter/ numerical system has been stablished as we know it and K is not part of it.
Everyone was writing that M2KV was 2005, when I wrote my post yesterday. I could not see how that was possible because M = 1000 and V = 5. So I searched how could "K" also be a Roman Numeral when I have never seen it used as one. I found that "K" has been used to represent 50 in the past. So even if the letters were representing Roman Numerals, it would not be 2005.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: allforus7 on January 05, 2011, 09:56:55 AM
I don't see what you see.
I need hoax glasses i guess.
However,

K is not a Roman numeral.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 09:58:51 AM
Quote from: "allforus7"
I don't see what you see.
I need hoax glasses i guess.
However,

K is not a Roman numeral.
OMG I already posted why I wrote what I did and that I didn't create it out of thin air so get over it already.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ROFL on January 05, 2011, 09:59:57 AM
Quote from: "allforus7"
I don't see what you see.
I need hoax glasses i guess.
However,

K is not a Roman numeral.

Hmmm it's weird but you remind me of kalispera.....

 :idea:  :idea:  :idea:  :idea:  :idea:

Edit - Bye troll
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:02:57 AM
Quote from: "imred"
The "K' means thousand, get over it :roll:

:roll:  are we mixing here apples with bananas or what?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mdc on January 05, 2011, 10:04:05 AM
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: "allforus7"
I don't see what you see.
I need hoax glasses i guess.
However,

K is not a Roman numeral.

Since you missed my post the first time around, here is it again.
Did you forget to put on your glasses or something?
Or is that just your sunny disposition shining through again?

Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
The tenth V or X along the stick received an extra stroke. Thus 50 was written variously as N, И, K, Ψ etc., but perhaps most often as a chicken-track shape like a superimposed V and I - ᗐ. This had flattened to an inverted T by the time of Augustus, and soon thereafter became identified with the graphically similar letter L.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Everyone was writing that M2KV was 2005, when I wrote my post yesterday. I could not see how that was possible because M = 1000 and V = 5. So I searched how could "K" also be a Roman Numeral when I have never seen it used as one. I found that "K" has been used to represent 50 in the past. So even if the letters were representing Roman Numerals, it would not be 2005.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:08:32 AM
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

the convos are multiple, before I posted chemistry equivalences, there are other measurements, i.e;
M2= square meter
KV= 1000 volts (kilovolt)

IDK, may be we need to focus in Murray´s tie instead  :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "allforus7"
I don't see what you see.
I need hoax glasses i guess.
However,

K is not a Roman numeral.

Since you missed my post the first time around, here is it again.
Did you forget to put on your glasses or something?
Or is that just your sunny disposition shining through again?

Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
The tenth V or X along the stick received an extra stroke. Thus 50 was written variously as N, И, K, Ψ etc., but perhaps most often as a chicken-track shape like a superimposed V and I - ᗐ. This had flattened to an inverted T by the time of Augustus, and soon thereafter became identified with the graphically similar letter L.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Everyone was writing that M2KV was 2005, when I wrote my post yesterday. I could not see how that was possible because M = 1000 and V = 5. So I searched how could "K" also be a Roman Numeral when I have never seen it used as one. I found that "K" has been used to represent 50 in the past. So even if the letters were representing Roman Numerals, it would not be 2005.

Looks like all of this "confusion" comes from your own post, Serenity
Quote
Serenitys_Dream wrote:
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mdc on January 05, 2011, 10:11:57 AM
Just because it relates and I found it funny given the discussion...

Quote
If you are looking for an amazing paisley tie the hunt won't be too onerous. In 2005 the paisley necktie enjoyed a lovely renaissance, and has been easy to find in the following years.


http://www.tie-necktie-video.com/paisley-tie.html (http://www.tie-necktie-video.com/paisley-tie.html)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:13:23 AM
That is why I think that if there is anything to care about regarding that message written on the white fence, we must put apples with apples, meaning using the same values/ codes. Other wise we will get even madder.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: allforus7 on January 05, 2011, 10:14:38 AM
Totally agree Gema.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 10:15:42 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "allforus7"
I don't see what you see.
I need hoax glasses i guess.
However,

K is not a Roman numeral.

Since you missed my post the first time around, here is it again.
Did you forget to put on your glasses or something?
Or is that just your sunny disposition shining through again?

Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
The tenth V or X along the stick received an extra stroke. Thus 50 was written variously as N, И, K, Ψ etc., but perhaps most often as a chicken-track shape like a superimposed V and I - ᗐ. This had flattened to an inverted T by the time of Augustus, and soon thereafter became identified with the graphically similar letter L.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_numerals
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Everyone was writing that M2KV was 2005, when I wrote my post yesterday. I could not see how that was possible because M = 1000 and V = 5. So I searched how could "K" also be a Roman Numeral when I have never seen it used as one. I found that "K" has been used to represent 50 in the past. So even if the letters were representing Roman Numerals, it would not be 2005.

Looks like all of this "confusion" comes from your own post, Serenity
Quote
Serenitys_Dream wrote:
If it is roman numerals...
M = 1000
K = 50
V = 5

But there is no 2

Even multiplying 1000 x 2 would still be 2055 so I don't think it is that.
Adding it would be 1057.
Yes and as I stated 3 times now, the letter "K" was listed as having been used to represent 50. I am not sure what the issue is here. I obviously didn't make it up, I have linked the page I found it on.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:18:04 AM
M 2 K V

Grouping
MKV
2

MKV is a video extension.
2 can mean Too?

second time I see a conection with a hard dive/ video/ kodec----> missing tapes?

Just a thought
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:19:34 AM
@Serenity, imo, it can be an X instead of a K.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 10:20:22 AM
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

This actually makes more sense to me than anything anyone else posted in regards to it representing 2005.

Y2K
Y = Year
2K = 2 x 1000

Y2K = the year 2000

M2KV could therefore represent
M = Michael
2K = 2 x 1000
V = 5

M2KV = Michael 2005

Thank you very much, mdc!  :D
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Tarja on January 05, 2011, 10:23:37 AM
people.....  I can't believe how far a random writing on a fence has lead to. Don't you think it's a bit out of context, taken too far? it's my opinion
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:27:16 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

Where does the Y come from?  :?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Guest on January 05, 2011, 10:27:23 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "imred"
The "K' means thousand, get over it :roll:

:roll:  are we mixing here apples with bananas or what?
im not hungry :?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:28:15 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

This actually makes more sense to me than anything anyone else posted in regards to it representing 2005.

Y2K
Y = Year
2K = 2 x 1000

Y2K = the year 2000

M2KV could therefore represent
M = Michael
2K = 2 x 1000
V = 5

M2KV = Michael 2005

Thank you very much, mdc!  :D

This looks ramdom just to fit the 2005 theory. Otherwise, where does the letter Y come from in this context?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mdc on January 05, 2011, 10:30:51 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

Where does the Y come from?  :?

Y=Year

Right before year 2000 there was a big scare about how the world would end or something of the sort because the computers were set to only go to 1999...or I believe that was the reason for it.

Just gives evidence that the 2k could be for 2000.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:31:44 AM
Quote from: "Tarja"
people.....  I can't believe how far a random writing on a fence has lead to. Don't you think it's a bit out of context, taken too far? it's my opinion

I understand what you mean but I don´t believe TMZ would post a "ramdom" pic as such. In fact, before I got to read the poster who made the comment about the letters on the fence, my reaction was the same. My eyes got stuck to those letters first time I saw the pic.

It was "meant" to be there to "keep us busy"  ;)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: "mdc"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

Where does the Y come from?  :?

Y=Year

Right before year 2000 there was a big scare about how the world would end or something of the sort because the computers were set to only go to 1999...or I believe that was the reason for it.

Just gives evidence that the 2k could be for 2000.

Ok, you added the Y then. It did not come in the article or the fence.

Thanks for explaining.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Guest on January 05, 2011, 10:33:54 AM
Is there a prelim hearing today?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: TheRunningGirl on January 05, 2011, 10:34:53 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

This actually makes more sense to me than anything anyone else posted in regards to it representing 2005.

Y2K
Y = Year
2K = 2 x 1000

Y2K = the year 2000

M2KV could therefore represent
M = Michael
2K = 2 x 1000
V = 5

M2KV = Michael 2005

Thank you very much, mdc!  :D

This is indeed the meaning and it was posted many posts up on this thread. I also beLIEve that the use of V(Roman numeral number 5) to indicate 5 is also there as a reminder of V as "V" for Vendetta as the common abbreviated version of 2005 would read 2k5.

For further information:
k is an abbreviation of the greek kilo that means 1000 - it is NOT a roman numeral

Arabic   1   
Roman   I   
Arabic   5   
Roman   V   

Arabic   10   
Roman   X   
Arabic   50   
Roman   L
   
Arabic   100   
Roman   C   
Arabic   500   
Roman   D
   
Arabic   1000
Roman   M

With L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 10:35:13 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

This actually makes more sense to me than anything anyone else posted in regards to it representing 2005.

Y2K
Y = Year
2K = 2 x 1000

Y2K = the year 2000

M2KV could therefore represent
M = Michael
2K = 2 x 1000
V = 5

M2KV = Michael 2005

Thank you very much, mdc!  :D

This looks ramdom just to fit the 2005 theory. Otherwise, where does the letter Y come from in this context?
Not random at all.

Year 2000 problem
The Year 2000 problem (also known as the Y2K problem, the millennium bug, the Y2K bug, or simply Y2K) was a problem for both digital (computer-related) and non-digital documentation and data storage situations which resulted from the practice of abbreviating a four-digit year to two digits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: looking4truth on January 05, 2011, 10:40:32 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

This actually makes more sense to me than anything anyone else posted in regards to it representing 2005.

Y2K
Y = Year
2K = 2 x 1000

Y2K = the year 2000

M2KV could therefore represent
M = Michael
2K = 2 x 1000
V = 5

M2KV = Michael 2005

Thank you very much, mdc!  :D

This looks ramdom just to fit the 2005 theory. Otherwise, where does the letter Y come from in this context?

I am not sure about the numbers but IF there's a meaning behind M2KV, I would guess it would mean on 2012 (2000 was known as Y2K and the "end of the world" 2012 is being rumored to be the end as well) will be known as M2K for his Vendetta. That's where the V comes in. It is far fetch, I'll admit but that's what I get when I see that M2KV.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 10:43:31 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

This actually makes more sense to me than anything anyone else posted in regards to it representing 2005.

Y2K
Y = Year
2K = 2 x 1000

Y2K = the year 2000

M2KV could therefore represent
M = Michael
2K = 2 x 1000
V = 5

M2KV = Michael 2005

Thank you very much, mdc!  :D

This looks ramdom just to fit the 2005 theory. Otherwise, where does the letter Y come from in this context?
Not random at all.

Year 2000 problem
The Year 2000 problem (also known as the Y2K problem, the millennium bug, the Y2K bug, or simply Y2K) was a problem for both digital (computer-related) and non-digital documentation and data storage situations which resulted from the practice of abbreviating a four-digit year to two digits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem

But Y is not on the fence, so why coming up dding that letter at all?
It is random.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

This actually makes more sense to me than anything anyone else posted in regards to it representing 2005.

Y2K
Y = Year
2K = 2 x 1000

Y2K = the year 2000

M2KV could therefore represent
M = Michael
2K = 2 x 1000
V = 5

M2KV = Michael 2005

Thank you very much, mdc!  :D

This looks ramdom just to fit the 2005 theory. Otherwise, where does the letter Y come from in this context?
Not random at all.

Year 2000 problem
The Year 2000 problem (also known as the Y2K problem, the millennium bug, the Y2K bug, or simply Y2K) was a problem for both digital (computer-related) and non-digital documentation and data storage situations which resulted from the practice of abbreviating a four-digit year to two digits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem

But Y is not on the fence, so why coming up dding that letter at all?
It is random.
No not random.
"Y" is not on the fence but the abbreviation Y2K was well known to represent the year 2000 and a major event. The letter "M" has been used to replace the "Y" and represents "Michael" instead of "Year" so that this then becomes relevant to a major event in Michael's life.

"2K" would still represent 2000 but instead of it generally referencing the Year 2000 (Y2K), it now represents Michael 2000 add 5 to that as in "V" and you get Michael 2005.

This references Michael's 2005 trial, in which an innocent man was prosecuted for something he didn't do...enter Conrad Murray and the current trial.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mdc on January 05, 2011, 11:07:24 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

This actually makes more sense to me than anything anyone else posted in regards to it representing 2005.

Y2K
Y = Year
2K = 2 x 1000

Y2K = the year 2000

M2KV could therefore represent
M = Michael
2K = 2 x 1000
V = 5

M2KV = Michael 2005

Thank you very much, mdc!  :D

This looks ramdom just to fit the 2005 theory. Otherwise, where does the letter Y come from in this context?
Not random at all.

Year 2000 problem
The Year 2000 problem (also known as the Y2K problem, the millennium bug, the Y2K bug, or simply Y2K) was a problem for both digital (computer-related) and non-digital documentation and data storage situations which resulted from the practice of abbreviating a four-digit year to two digits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem

But Y is not on the fence, so why coming up dding that letter at all?
It is random.

Then I apologize for my randomness. No worries.

I also apologize for my random post on the paisley tie. I'll try to stay to the specifics in the future. Again I apologize.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Red_Rose on January 05, 2011, 11:43:44 AM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
Bam Comparison pic

 "I'm gonna button my shirt..."
Yes..This Is It!!!!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 12:11:19 PM
@mdc
I wasn´t expecting an apology :|  We are discussing another theory.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 05, 2011, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mdc"
I'm going with the M2kV= Michael 2005.  Doesn't anyone remember the Y2k bug in 2000?  Add a V for the 5 and you get the number 2005. JMO

This actually makes more sense to me than anything anyone else posted in regards to it representing 2005.

Y2K
Y = Year
2K = 2 x 1000

Y2K = the year 2000

M2KV could therefore represent
M = Michael
2K = 2 x 1000
V = 5

M2KV = Michael 2005

Thank you very much, mdc!  :D

This looks ramdom just to fit the 2005 theory. Otherwise, where does the letter Y come from in this context?
Not random at all.

Year 2000 problem
The Year 2000 problem (also known as the Y2K problem, the millennium bug, the Y2K bug, or simply Y2K) was a problem for both digital (computer-related) and non-digital documentation and data storage situations which resulted from the practice of abbreviating a four-digit year to two digits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem

But Y is not on the fence, so why coming up dding that letter at all?
It is random.
No not random.
"Y" is not on the fence but the abbreviation Y2K was well known to represent the year 2000 and a major event. The letter "M" has been used to replace the "Y" and represents "Michael" instead of "Year" so that this then becomes relevant to a major event in Michael's life.

"2K" would still represent 2000 but instead of it generally referencing the Year 2000 (Y2K), it now represents Michael 2000 add 5 to that as in "V" and you get Michael 2005.

This references Michael's 2005 trial, in which an innocent man was prosecuted for something he didn't do...enter Conrad Murray and the current trial.
I don't get it, wasn't that meant right away? Because when the first person brought it up, That was exactly the calculation I understood.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 05, 2011, 12:56:31 PM
Yes, Souza, that is exactly what I meant when I brought it up last night. Actually, hubby saw it with his fresh set of eyes. He is military and I am European so, for both of us 2k meant two thousand, and then the roman numeral v for five thrown in. M was obvious to me, as was the meaning of 2005. Hubby was confused on that one- but he already had played his part, so it was ok. :)

But it's nice to see so many saw the point and agreed.  This is what makes this so great. We all see some parts of the puzzle and then bring it to each other to see the bigger picture.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 05, 2011, 01:04:40 PM
Quote from: "nefari"
Is anyone in this fiasco named Nicole? Just thinking about Prince singing "Darling Nikki" so maybe Murray was talking to a hooker named Nikki?!! 8-)

Yes there is, his baby momma is called Nicole Alvarez.

About M2KV, I think the Michael 2005 thing makes perfect sense. The reason why it is written like that (in my opinion) is because it is also a video extension. Movies in HD on the web can be found with the extension MKV (Matroska Video), but also M2KV, see this link for an Iron Man download: http://www.freshwap.net/9b9/dl/iron%20man%20m2kv (http://www.freshwap.net/9b9/dl/iron%20man%20m2kv). As far as I know M2KV came after MKV, which would mean it has a higher resolution maybe than MKV, but I am not really sure what the differences are and I can't seem to find it anywhere on the net.

So I think the letters mean: This is an HD movie made by Michael Jackson as a revenge because of what they did to him in 2005. Even though he was framed in 1993 as well, I think he chose the trial as a mirror example because there WAS a trial back then with HUGE media coverage, which he WON, where he was found NOT GUILTY on all charges, yet STILL he had the stamp "child molestor" on his forehead.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 05, 2011, 01:08:05 PM
Yes! I also thought bout it before. Can it be about the missing tapes?

Quote from: "Gema"
M 2 K V

Grouping
MKV
2

MKV is a video extension.
2 can mean Too?

second time I see a conection with a hard dive/ video/ kodec----> missing tapes?

Just a thought

Quote from: "Gema"
M2KV

I checked theoremas and formulations and the most logic imo is this
M2KV is a device driver
http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/M2KV (http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ASUS/M2KV)

Drivers? the ones La Toya took?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MJonmind on January 05, 2011, 02:47:57 PM
Language and symbols evolve with popular and slang usage. This MJ hoax is all about eclectic potpourri gathering of details from across the board. That's why it's such a good ARG, and uses our brains to the fullest capacities. It's also muti-dimensional so we have to figure out the layers as well. That's why we need all of our brains combined for this!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: anewfan on January 05, 2011, 07:34:56 PM
[attachment=0:2ib7zemc]murray.jpg[/attachment:2ib7zemc]

The orange circle is another face.

The red circle is BS....this story certainly is!

Looks like TMZ is back to their old tricks of hiding images!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: cascademjs on January 05, 2011, 07:41:44 PM
hope they're not making fun of us.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 05, 2011, 08:12:59 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I don't get it, wasn't that meant right away? Because when the first person brought it up, That was exactly the calculation I understood.

I didn't see that (Y2K) posted until mdc posted it and then that made sense to me. If it was posted previously, I missed it.

I was trying to explain it to Gema, as she wasn't seeming to get it and repeatedly posted that it was random.

Is there a reason why you frequently don't understand my posts and require me to explain myself further?
This is the second such post, by you, directed at me, in the last two days.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: anewfan on January 05, 2011, 08:39:58 PM
Quote from: "cascademjs"
hope they're not making fun of us.


I hope not either.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suesuzzfaithkeeper on January 05, 2011, 09:40:04 PM
M=michael
2=2
K=thousand
V=volts
to me sounds like it could be from his hit song 2000watts??!! talks about watts ohms and volts..
just thinking out loud with everyone..
huggs n love with a dash of faith to all..
suzz
didn't the HMH video have on display amps, meters, equipment??..maybe goes along with the video as well..
ok padded cell time..
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 06, 2011, 01:47:15 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I don't get it, wasn't that meant right away? Because when the first person brought it up, That was exactly the calculation I understood.

I didn't see that (Y2K) posted until mdc posted it and then that made sense to me. If it was posted previously, I missed it.

I was trying to explain it to Gema, as she wasn't seeming to get it and repeatedly posted that it was random.

Is there a reason why you frequently don't understand my posts and require me to explain myself further?
This is the second such post, by you, directed at me, in the last two days.
Uhm no... I simply didn't understand your post in the TIAI thread, so I was curious as to what you meant. And in this case I only explain that I understood this was meant by the first one that said it could be Michael 2005. Why are you always jumping in the defence? Nothing meant here, chill out.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MJonmind on January 06, 2011, 02:00:42 AM
Quote from: "suesuzzfaithkeeper"
M=michael
2=2
K=thousand
V=volts
to me sounds like it could be from his hit song 2000watts??!! talks about watts ohms and volts..
just thinking out loud with everyone..
huggs n love with a dash of faith to all..
suzz
didn't the HMH video have on display amps, meters, equipment??..maybe goes along with the video as well..
ok padded cell time..
I like that. Isn't it the truth!  MJ 2000 volts   :P :oops:
Why were those voltage gages on HMH anyway. :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: cascademjs on January 06, 2011, 02:28:23 AM
so the clue was 2005, the trial, so revenge ? why use this hoax for that trial? who is the victim in case of revenge? sorry, i don't see the connection. i myself believe it has nothing to do with 2005 , i am not even sure if this was planned for such a long time. I don't see any clues and it doesn't evenn make sense. why fool fans with 50 concerts and everything? No, this is sick. Michael is not a a lier. i like reading you but no offense, to me your theories are not making much sense and most times dishonor Michael's persona. And i am the realistic type guy, i need more than numbers.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 06, 2011, 08:37:56 AM
Quote from: "cascademjs"
so the clue was 2005, the trial, so revenge ? why use this hoax for that trial? who is the victim in case of revenge? sorry, i don't see the connection. i myself believe it has nothing to do with 2005 , i am not even sure if this was planned for such a long time. I don't see any clues and it doesn't evenn make sense. why fool fans with 50 concerts and everything? No, this is sick. Michael is not a a lier. i like reading you but no offense, to me your theories are not making much sense and most times dishonor Michael's persona. And i am the realistic type guy, i need more than numbers.

I don't see any clues and it doesn't evenn make sense

Does make sense to you what has been written, said and reported by the media regarding this "murder" case?

your theories are not making much sense and most times dishonor Michael's persona

[ironic mode on]I guess that the theories of Michael being a druggie, a skeleton, not eating and paranoid, and injecting himself or allowing a cardiologist who can´t perform CPR to inject drugs on his body are more "realistic"[ironic mode off]

dishonor Michael's
WhööT?
 the theorie that Michael is not a druggie and would not put himself in the hands of a moron dishonors Michael? really?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 06, 2011, 08:38:47 AM
Quote from: "suesuzzfaithkeeper"
M=michael
2=2
K=thousand
V=volts
to me sounds like it could be from his hit song 2000watts??!! talks about watts ohms and volts..
just thinking out loud with everyone..
huggs n love with a dash of faith to all..
suzz
didn't the HMH video have on display amps, meters, equipment??..maybe goes along with the video as well..
ok padded cell time..

2000watts makes perfect sense to me, but in what context with Murray´s pic?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 06, 2011, 08:44:05 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
I was trying to explain it to Gema, as she wasn't seeming to get it and repeatedly posted that it was random.

And still I think that adding the letter Y is random just to fit in to the 2005 year theory, as it wasn´t written on the fence.

However, the 2005 theory makes sense and I believe and has been my opinion from the 1st time I read the AR that this upcoming trial, if comes at all, will be a representation of the 2005 one that Michael faced. Already looks like a circus in the preliminars and Murray has been proclaimed by a big part of the fan community the murderer of Michael.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: PureLove on January 06, 2011, 10:19:48 AM
ok, maybe this is nothing but I searched for M2K on the net first and found out this page and I was shocked when I first saw how the page opens!!! The first thing you see on the page is a red curtain! That's a cinema page. And V could be for V for Vendetta. Probably this writing means; This is all just a movie like V for Vendetta and still it directs us to the parallels btw the hoax and V. Here is the link of the page M2K:

http://www.m2kcinemas.com/
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Red_Rose on January 06, 2011, 11:30:17 AM
Ok I tried to search on google about M2KV....and I found nothing
But... when I split M2KV in M2 and KV, well , I found something interesting
First KV means VALLEY OF THE KINGS in Egypt, and
Quote
The valley stands on the west bank of the Nile, opposite Thebes (modern Luxor), within the heart of the Theban Necropolis.[4] The wadi consists of two valleys, East Valley (where the majority of the royal tombs situated) and West Valley.
It's very interesting and you can read on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_the_Kings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_the_Kings)
About M2...this is a very famous tomb from China discovered in 2009, of a noble LU DALIN from the LU Dynasty ...the story of how the tomb M2 was discovered is very interesting, you can read on this page http://www.archeolog-home.com/rubrique, ... 42917.html (http://www.archeolog-home.com/rubrique,the-tomb-of-lu-dalin,1242917.html)
Guys, I don't know if has something to do with the hoax or not, I don't know  :?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: suspicious mind on January 06, 2011, 11:46:37 AM
umm about the y2k thing. didn't that just sort of wind up being a lot of blowing things out of proportion fear mongering in the end ? i don't remember that anything really happened after the big hoopla. don't know if that matters here or not just thought maybe.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 06, 2011, 12:10:15 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
I was trying to explain it to Gema, as she wasn't seeming to get it and repeatedly posted that it was random.

And still I think that adding the letter Y is random just to fit in to the 2005 year theory, as it wasn´t written on the fence.

However, the 2005 theory makes sense and I believe and has been my opinion from the 1st time I read the AR that this upcoming trial, if comes at all, will be a representation of the 2005 one that Michael faced. Already looks like a circus in the preliminars and Murray has been proclaimed by a big part of the fan community the murderer of Michael.
@Gema
I will try to explain it in another way.

When people were scared that computers would stop working in the year 2000 because of a possible bug, an acronym was created to shorten the year. Instead of saying "In the year 2000 a bug is going to disrupt computers" or when referencing the event that some thought would happen in the year 2000, they used: Y2K bug, Y2K.

Y represented Year
2K represented 2x1000 or 2000

So when I say to you "Michael 2005" what comes to your mind?
Chances are...the 2005 trial

So no one is adding the letter "Y" and it isn't required for us to decipher this as a reference to the events that occurred in Michael's life in the year 2005.

M2KV
M for Michael
2K for 2x1000 or 2000
V for 5

And what is Murray now involved in?
A trial.

TS has said that this hoax is multi-layered. Then it is also possible that the clues being given have multiple meanings also. M2KV could be referencing different things and every interpretation that has been posted for this acronym, would therefore be relevant, if it has something to do with Michael or something we have previously discovered connected to Michael and/or the hoax.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MJonmind on January 06, 2011, 12:29:17 PM
I agree. Like the game of Boggle, you see how many combinations of ways you can make words (sense) of the given letters to get points. In M2KV I think we've done well, and maybe there are even more.
http://www.centralconnector.com/GAMES/boggle.html (http://www.centralconnector.com/GAMES/boggle.html)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mindseye on January 06, 2011, 07:48:55 PM
Follow the ties... different but similar. These two must shop at the same store.  :geek:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 06, 2011, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: "mindseye"
Follow the ties... different but similar. These two must shop at the same store.  :geek:

Oh wow! :shock:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: mindseye on January 06, 2011, 09:12:20 PM
About the fence, if it's m2kv .... http://m2kcinemas.com/ (http://m2kcinemas.com/)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 07, 2011, 01:06:19 PM
Quote from: "mindseye"
Follow the ties... different but similar. These two must shop at the same store.  :geek:


GREAT!!!!!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on January 07, 2011, 11:01:36 PM
Quote from: "mindseye"
Follow the ties... different but similar. These two must shop at the same store.  :geek:


Wow.  It looks almost like the exact same tie to me.  Great find!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: MissG on January 08, 2011, 09:58:20 AM
Anyway, that Murray pic is shopped. TMZ keeps making photoshops  :x
Title: Re: new pic of murry
Post by: sophiecestmoi on January 08, 2011, 10:30:58 AM
Quote from: "mrtoki"
is it me or is there writing on the fence behind him??? and look at his belt buckle it looks like the eyes of mj..??? look and tell me what u think..

Yes, behind him we can read on the fence : M2KV . Somebody on YT (THEMAYQUEEN1 )explains it like that : M=Michael 2K=2000 V=5 ,and then : An innocent man on trial meaning Dr Murray is innocent..

What do you think?

;-))
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on January 08, 2011, 11:34:15 AM
I found another 7 beLIEvers/KNOWers  :D ! (but maybe I was trying to hard)

M2KV (sure, it's 2005, but...)

M=13
{the 2 will be used later}
K=11
V=22

13*11*22= 3146 What if the 2 is being squared??

3146*3146= 9897316

9+8+9+7+3+1+6= 43

4+3= 7
 :D
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