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Title: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 06, 2011, 01:33:17 AM
According to Twiggy (http://twitter.com/MJHOAXLIVE (http://twitter.com/MJHOAXLIVE)) there is a pic of MJ on the ground of his home on Carolwood. This was brought out in court.What do you think?

@MJHOAXLIVE did they really show pics inside the courtroom of MJ laying on the floor?????
12:11 PM Jan 5th via web in reply to MJHOAXLIVE

@FROOTknowsTROOT. Yes
12:11 PM Jan 5th via txt
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: curls on January 06, 2011, 01:44:01 AM
I don't know who Twiggy is and how credible he/she is, but my guess is that MJ knows gruesome photos are always presented in court, and so he will have made sure to provide some!  Now, the question is whether they were taken on 25th June or on that famous 'other day'!!
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: ibelieveinmj on January 06, 2011, 01:52:36 AM
It kind of makes me sad actually.  Just thinking about it, Michael is in cardiac arrest and someone has the time and/or audacity to take pictures.  If it was my father I would be furious.  As they say, only in Hollywood !

So no, I don't think there are pics. Well, maybe since all this is for entertainment  :lol:
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: MJonmind on January 06, 2011, 01:54:14 AM
Oh this is where the nude part comes in.  I have a question. Does anyone know if in the 2005 trial they actually put up on the screen pictures of MJ's privates for all in the court to see? Or was it only on file and shown to lawyers etc. If true, maybe MJ's thinking well I'm exposed to all those people, why not give them another in this hoax. IDK You would think for decency sake his doctor/bodygaurds/police would cover him before taking a pic, but... :?
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: mac5k on January 06, 2011, 02:31:05 AM
We should ask TMZ to get this photo as they have good informers  ;)

Please TMZ give us this favor  :D and thanks in advance :)
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 06, 2011, 02:37:54 AM
Quote from: "mac5k"
We should ask TMZ to get this photo as they have good informers  ;)

Please TMZ give us this favor  :D and thanks in advance :)

Hopefully TMZ answers this question, Twiggy is a hoax believer TIAI redirected to her tweets and she kinda knows Brian Oxman, you should check this out http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/ (http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/) she did and interview on radio and she answers questions about the hoax.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: *Mo* on January 06, 2011, 03:46:02 AM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Oh this is where the nude part comes in.  I have a question. Does anyone know if in the 2005 trial they actually put up on the screen pictures of MJ's privates for all in the court to see?

No they did not.  In fact, those pictures have nothing to do with the 2005 trial, they are associated with the 1993 Chandler accusations.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: GirlInTheMirror on January 06, 2011, 05:08:40 AM
Do they mean on the floor when he had the cardiac arrest?
I don´t believe it; I mean, apart from that I don´t believe it happened anyway, just think: Dr Murray was running around like a headless chicken seeking for someone who knows CPR (weird enough that a doctor and security men are not trained in first aid...) and the children were outside the room as well, someone had time to take a cam and take pictures?
On the other hand, if it were pics from the security camera he had there - those tapes are missing, apparently, so no pics from there as well.
So where do they come from?
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: angelshadow on January 06, 2011, 06:10:13 AM
Now it is said again a lot .... I do not believe this
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 06, 2011, 08:34:22 AM
This has to be a hoax, everything is so inconsistent.... Unless someone is convering up a Murder.  

So MJ was only put on the floor when the paramedics arrived.????''

Who is lying and why, unless these inconsistencies while make non believers question the validity of this whole thing.......... :?  :?
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: angelshadow on January 06, 2011, 08:38:17 AM
Nevertheless, these are only rumors because of the security tapes and the photo .... a spring else confirms?I do not look me there completely by .... this rumor moves only on Twitter?
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 06, 2011, 08:43:52 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This has to be a hoax, everything is so inconsistent.... Unless someone is convering up a Murder.  

So MJ was only put on the floor when the paramedics arrived.????''

Who is lying and why, unless these inconsistencies while make non believers question the validity of this whole thing.......... :?  :?

Exactly this whole thing is ridiculous that it would definitely make people second guess (those who are non believers) also when the first info came out about the trial the first day on TMZ I remember reading the comments, and one of them were saying something on the lines of they are starting to think MJ is alive because of all the inconsistencies like Murray asking who knows CPR and performing CPR with one hand.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on January 06, 2011, 10:59:22 AM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This has to be a hoax, everything is so inconsistent.... Unless someone is convering up a Murder.  

So MJ was only put on the floor when the paramedics arrived.????''

Who is lying and why, unless these inconsistencies while make non believers question the validity of this whole thing.......... :?  :?


I think all of the inconsistencies may lead the judge to deem there isn't enough solid evidence to go forth with a trial.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on January 06, 2011, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: "PeaceLoveHappiness"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This has to be a hoax, everything is so inconsistent.... Unless someone is convering up a Murder.  

So MJ was only put on the floor when the paramedics arrived.????''

Who is lying and why, unless these inconsistencies while make non believers question the validity of this whole thing.......... :?  :?


I think all of the inconsistencies may lead the judge to deem there isn't enough solid evidence to go forth with a trial.

I agree. Also the family went into the house serveral times b4 police. If that comes up in the prelim, that could lead to an automatic dismissal
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: MJonmind on January 06, 2011, 12:09:31 PM
Thanks Mo! That's a relief.

Quote from: "LoveNeedsExpression"
Quote from: "PeaceLoveHappiness"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This has to be a hoax, everything is so inconsistent.... Unless someone is convering up a Murder.

So MJ was only put on the floor when the paramedics arrived.????''

Who is lying and why, unless these inconsistencies while make non believers question the validity of this whole thing.......... :? :?


I think all of the inconsistencies may lead the judge to deem there isn't enough solid evidence to go forth with a trial.

I agree. Also the family went into the house serveral times b4 police. If that comes up in the prelim, that could lead to an automatic dismissal
Yes how can a judge make a decision with all that. Murray may walk free because of that.
But I do think MJ intends for there to be a full 3-ring circus trial. He said about his insurance co. paying Chandler the $20 million that he didn't want it to go to the O.J. style trial, well maybe he intends this one to be that.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on January 06, 2011, 03:18:00 PM
Quote from: "LoveNeedsExpression"
Quote from: "PeaceLoveHappiness"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This has to be a hoax, everything is so inconsistent.... Unless someone is convering up a Murder.  

So MJ was only put on the floor when the paramedics arrived.????''

Who is lying and why, unless these inconsistencies while make non believers question the validity of this whole thing.......... :?  :?


I think all of the inconsistencies may lead the judge to deem there isn't enough solid evidence to go forth with a trial.

I agree. Also the family went into the house serveral times b4 police. If that comes up in the prelim, that could lead to an automatic dismissal


Agreed.  For some reason I had forgotten that, but it was actually one of the first things that made me think this could have been a hoax in the first place.  Surely the family should have know that visiting a potential crime scene would have tainted it.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: Suzi~Ses~Its~Right on January 06, 2011, 03:25:12 PM
Quote from: "curls"
I don't know who Twiggy is and how credible he/she is, but my guess is that MJ knows gruesome photos are always presented in court, and so he will have made sure to provide some!  Now, the question is whether they were taken on 25th June or on that famous 'other day'!!

Twiggy is a very famouse british model from the 1960's two things i have to say about all this is 1. how is twiggy in anyway involved in this case, and 2, i would say she is very credible. she has a huge following in the UK, Has always in the last 30 odd years been very discreet, she is no way in any form one for spouting any kinda bull or fantasising facts in anyway. See now im really confused as to how Twiggy has anything to do with this whole senareo.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 06, 2011, 03:30:44 PM
I was in the ustream chat today from mj4justice (saw them kick you Souza81  :( ) and this is where the rumours about photos of Michael on the floor being shown in court originated.

They cleared this up.

The Pictures Shown in Court
There are NO pictures of Michael Jackson on the bedroom Floor. The photos shown in court were just of the scene taken later by the forensic Investigators. There were MARKERS on the photos which indicated where Michael's body was supposedly located on the floor. Michael, himself, was not in any of these photos shown in court.

The Security Video Tapes.
The security tapes that were mentioned in court, WERE NOT video tapes of the inside of the home. These security tapes that the police downloaded were of the gates and the front entrance of the house ONLY and nothing from inside the home.

So there are the answers to those questions.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 06, 2011, 03:34:16 PM
Quote from: "Suzi~Ses~Its~Right"
Quote from: "curls"
I don't know who Twiggy is and how credible he/she is, but my guess is that MJ knows gruesome photos are always presented in court, and so he will have made sure to provide some!  Now, the question is whether they were taken on 25th June or on that famous 'other day'!!

Twiggy is a very famouse british model from the 1960's two things i have to say about all this is 1. how is twiggy in anyway involved in this case, and 2, i would say she is very credible. she has a huge following in the UK, Has always in the last 30 odd years been very discreet, she is no way in any form one for spouting any kinda bull or fantasising facts in anyway. See now im really confused as to how Twiggy has anything to do with this whole senareo.

These are two different people. It is not Twiggy the famous model that we are talking about in this thread. It is  a woman named Twiggy, who lives in LA and works as a reporter, who is giving updates on the court proceedings through twitter and her blog.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: mjssoulmate on January 06, 2011, 03:34:46 PM
Quote from: "LoveNeedsExpression"
Quote from: "PeaceLoveHappiness"
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
This has to be a hoax, everything is so inconsistent.... Unless someone is convering up a Murder.  

So MJ was only put on the floor when the paramedics arrived.????''

Who is lying and why, unless these inconsistencies while make non believers question the validity of this whole thing.......... :?  :?


I think all of the inconsistencies may lead the judge to deem there isn't enough solid evidence to go forth with a trial.

I agree. Also the family went into the house serveral times b4 police. If that comes up in the prelim, that could lead to an automatic dismissal

At first the information we got made it sound like LaToya went to the house before police ever got there.  She went sometime around midnight of the 25th, if I remember correctly.  However, there is mention of detectives going to MJ's house the same afternoon.   I think it might have been in the autopsy report even.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 06, 2011, 08:59:56 PM
Quote from: "GirlInTheMirror"
Do they mean on the floor when he had the cardiac arrest?
I don´t believe it; I mean, apart from that I don´t believe it happened anyway, just think: Dr Murray was running around like a headless chicken seeking for someone who knows CPR (weird enough that a doctor and security men are not trained in first aid...) and the children were outside the room as well, someone had time to take a cam and take pictures?
On the other hand, if it were pics from the security camera he had there - those tapes are missing, apparently, so no pics from there as well.
So where do they come from?

As someone else said the other day: While doing onehanded CPR someone must have said, oh, great picture oportunity and taken a souvenir pic...  :roll:

No, did NOT happen.  If this was real- NO ONE would stop to take a snapshot of MJ.  Unless they use the video footage- but wait, that is missing, right?

Yeah, no picture!
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: gwynned on January 07, 2011, 12:12:12 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Suzi~Ses~Its~Right"
Quote from: "curls"
I don't know who Twiggy is and how credible he/she is, but my guess is that MJ knows gruesome photos are always presented in court, and so he will have made sure to provide some!  Now, the question is whether they were taken on 25th June or on that famous 'other day'!!

Twiggy is a very famouse british model from the 1960's two things i have to say about all this is 1. how is twiggy in anyway involved in this case, and 2, i would say she is very credible. she has a huge following in the UK, Has always in the last 30 odd years been very discreet, she is no way in any form one for spouting any kinda bull or fantasising facts in anyway. See now im really confused as to how Twiggy has anything to do with this whole senareo.

These are two different people. It is not Twiggy the famous model that we are talking about in this thread. It is  a woman named Twiggy, who lives in LA and works as a reporter, who is giving updates on the court proceedings through twitter and her blog.


I'm glad you cleared that up, Serenity.  I was wondering how was it that Twiggy had not aged a day in 40 years!
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: mjaliveomg on January 07, 2011, 07:33:17 AM
i was wondering about this twiggy guy...i did some researchs..and i think its Pianogames..just a thought :!:
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: Suzi~Ses~Its~Right on January 07, 2011, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "Suzi~Ses~Its~Right"
Quote from: "curls"
I don't know who Twiggy is and how credible he/she is, but my guess is that MJ knows gruesome photos are always presented in court, and so he will have made sure to provide some!  Now, the question is whether they were taken on 25th June or on that famous 'other day'!!

Twiggy is a very famouse british model from the 1960's two things i have to say about all this is 1. how is twiggy in anyway involved in this case, and 2, i would say she is very credible. she has a huge following in the UK, Has always in the last 30 odd years been very discreet, she is no way in any form one for spouting any kinda bull or fantasising facts in anyway. See now im really confused as to how Twiggy has anything to do with this whole senareo.

These are two different people. It is not Twiggy the famous model that we are talking about in this thread. It is  a woman named Twiggy, who lives in LA and works as a reporter, who is giving updates on the court proceedings through twitter and her blog.

Thanks for clearing that up at least that answers my questions lol ... sorry about the mistake my minds all over the place at the mo  :D
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: Tarja on January 08, 2011, 02:59:35 PM
Quote from: "mjaliveomg"
i was wondering about this twiggy guy...i did some researchs..and i think its Pianogames..just a thought :!:


it's not a guy. It's a woman and it's not pianogames

Look here

http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/search?u ... -results=7 (http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2011-01-02T18%3A46%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=7)
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: 2 Bad on January 09, 2011, 01:43:01 AM
I've been keeping up with Twiggy's tweets and her blog for quite a long time. Some very interesting stuff there.
I am especially interested in her tweet-

DEEP COVER http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/2010/08/ ... geles.html (http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/2010/08/deep-cover-may-1992-los-angeles.html)

After I watched the many shows about Tupac and Biggie last year I was convinced that they were related and set up.
I also...dare I say..... I also wondered if somehow MJ knew what went down and that he was a potential target. He took so many precautions for his and his childrens safety.
Security was a big part of why he wanted to buy that property in Las Vegas. What I don't get is the house on Carolwood, seems not to be that secure.
Some of his songs have a feeling that maybe he really isn't just talking about the evil medialoids. Maybe he's talking about a different danger.
I don't like this train of thought but everything has to be considered. MJ knows so much about the music biz.....good grounds to disappear. Perhaps what went down with Biggie and Tupac will be uncovered and what happened with MJ will too. I think if this is the way it is that he is being protected while the cases are being re-opened.
Anybody else ever had this thought?
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 09, 2011, 02:13:55 AM
Quote from: "2 Bad"
I've been keeping up with Twiggy's tweets and her blog for quite a long time. Some very interesting stuff there.
I am especially interested in her tweet-

DEEP COVER http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/2010/08/ ... geles.html (http://mjhoaxlive.blogspot.com/2010/08/deep-cover-may-1992-los-angeles.html)

After I watched the many shows about Tupac and Biggie last year I was convinced that they were related and set up.
I also...dare I say..... I also wondered if somehow MJ knew what went down and that he was a potential target. He took so many precautions for his and his childrens safety.
Security was a big part of why he wanted to buy that property in Las Vegas. What I don't get is the house on Carolwood, seems not to be that secure.
Some of his songs have a feeling that maybe he really isn't just talking about the evil medialoids. Maybe he's talking about a different danger.
I don't like this train of thought but everything has to be considered. MJ knows so much about the music biz.....good grounds to disappear. Perhaps what went down with Biggie and Tupac will be uncovered and what happened with MJ will too. I think if this is the way it is that he is being protected while the cases are being re-opened.
Anybody else ever had this thought?

Yes we have to consider every possibility...but I don't think if Tupac and Biggie were alive he would know where they are, I mean how would MJ locate them... also how good would it be if Tupac, Biggie, Elvis and MJ came back the same time.
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on January 13, 2011, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: "mjaliveomg"
i was wondering about this twiggy guy...i did some researchs..and i think its Pianogames..just a thought :!:


dont think so pianogames is based in the UK and is still only in his teens.

 ;)
Title: Re: Is there really a pic of MJ on the floor in Carolwood?
Post by: mumof3 on January 13, 2011, 05:50:55 PM
piano games Tom Pickering is in the uk   he has done a lot of work and met uri
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