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Title: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: marte on January 06, 2011, 02:06:27 PM
Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/06/conrad-murray-bowtie-michael-jackson-manslaughter-preliminary-hearing-propofol-bad-tie/)
1/6/2011 11:36 AM PST by Johnny Lopez

After TMZ made fun of his unfortunate tie on Tuesday, sources tell us Conrad Murray went shopping and bought himself a new dapper bow tie.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/06/0106-conrad-murray-npg-zoom-launch.jpg) (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_murrays_court_style__zoom_view#tab=most_recent)

Doc showed off his new nerd chic look while meeting with his lawyers in downtown L.A. this morning.

Just dandy.

[hr:2ert6fta]hr[/hr:2ert6fta]

mmm....
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1322/offxn.jpg)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Tarja on January 06, 2011, 02:07:57 PM
this is not the original photo. you should put the real one (without Michael)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: paula-c on January 06, 2011, 02:08:06 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: marte on January 06, 2011, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: "Tarja"
this is not the original photo. you should put the real one (without Michael)

the original is only the image of murray...
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Tarja on January 06, 2011, 02:10:08 PM
yes, but the article is like that. and I don't understand why editing the article. Post it the way it actually is. anyway
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: hope on January 06, 2011, 02:10:33 PM
Quote from: "marte"
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1322/offxn.jpg)

After TMZ made fun of his unfortunate tie on Tuesday, sources tell us Conrad Murray went shopping and bought himself a new dapper bow tie.



Doc showed off his new nerd chic look while meeting with his lawyers in downtown L.A. this morning.

Just dandy.
What a f#@*ing joke :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: angelshadow on January 06, 2011, 02:11:09 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/06/conrad-murray-bowtie-michael-jackson-manslaughter-preliminary-hearing-propofol-bad-tie/

Can do please somebody the original posten....I do not know like it functions, thanks
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Tarja on January 06, 2011, 02:13:07 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/06/conrad-mu ... l-bad-tie/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/06/conrad-murray-bowtie-michael-jackson-manslaughter-preliminary-hearing-propofol-bad-tie/)


(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9751/0106conradmurraynpgzoom.jpg) (http://img510.imageshack.us/i/0106conradmurraynpgzoom.jpg/)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Grace on January 06, 2011, 02:15:13 PM
1) That's not the dude we were presented yesterday (no arms, no legs, no belly)
2) "Connect the dots" is back.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ejay on January 06, 2011, 02:18:18 PM
:lol: the bow tie is so small! it reminds me of the song "itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polka dot bikini"    :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: paula-c on January 06, 2011, 02:18:33 PM
Quote
Grace » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:15 pm

1) That's not the dude we were presented yesterday (no arms, no legs, no belly)


I think that if :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: looking4truth on January 06, 2011, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: "marte"

mmm....
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1322/offxn.jpg)

 :lol: Good ol' NPG again. They get all the exclusive photos. Hmm...wonder why. I am loving the Urkel look. Very becoming. All he needs is eye glasses. lol
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Tarja on January 06, 2011, 02:18:59 PM
who saw the video (so in motion)of Murray shopping and the photos and can logically explain how can you think it's Michael when you see a guy around of 1.93 cm,when Michael is around 1.77,  then you got the prize
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ni-co-le on January 06, 2011, 02:20:21 PM
Quote from: "hope"
Quote from: "marte"
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1322/offxn.jpg)

After TMZ made fun of his unfortunate tie on Tuesday, sources tell us Conrad Murray went shopping and bought himself a new dapper bow tie.



Doc showed off his new nerd chic look while meeting with his lawyers in downtown L.A. this morning.

Just dandy.
What a f#@*ing joke :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 8-)  ;)  :lol: i dont believe this ,i almost think it is michael himself .how can conrad do this without any shame ??
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: iLOVEMJBeLIEve on January 06, 2011, 02:21:06 PM
is he really serious? i swear this is the first time i've seen someone go to court with a bow tie. it is not like he is just the audience. lmao he is on trial for god sake. what is he doing? this ain't no cocktail party. :lol:  wow just wow.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: _Anna_ on January 06, 2011, 02:22:47 PM
He didn't appear at the court with it (at least we haven't been shown). The article says he wore this at the meeting with his lawyers this morning.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: PrettyYoungTeletubby on January 06, 2011, 02:30:28 PM
Funny how NPG are again catching Murray, in the same position as yesterday, on his way to button his jacket (?) and looking on one side.....but didnt notice that belly last time....

Wasnt Dodo wearing a bow tie lately too?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: suspicious mind on January 06, 2011, 02:40:55 PM
umm why the zoom button
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ni-co-le on January 06, 2011, 02:42:13 PM
He has very long fingers  just like Michael has  :shock: isnt that odd ? And now he has a fatter belly to  :lol:  :lol: i wonder what he is hiding under his shirt  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Red_Rose on January 06, 2011, 02:51:11 PM
Oh God...is this a joke? :lol: How funny... could that picture be a photoshop ?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 06, 2011, 02:55:50 PM
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/BlueMoonEclipsecomp.jpg)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: angelshadow on January 06, 2011, 03:05:24 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/BlueMoonEclipsecomp.jpg)

Serenitys_Dream You do always a great job!!! I love your work :!:  ;)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: TheFunkMiser on January 06, 2011, 03:08:37 PM
Wow!!! Well, I think I just found my new fashion icon....Sorry Michael. *throws all sparkly socks away...replaces with badass bowties*
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 06, 2011, 03:12:31 PM
Enlarged photo of Conrad Murray by National Photo Group.
Click link then click the photo so it's bigger.

http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2011/01/BEN_0086_src.jpg
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Andrea on January 06, 2011, 03:26:38 PM
Is it me or does Murray's belly look like a body-suit belly and not a belly-belly?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 06, 2011, 03:29:52 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
1) That's not the dude we were presented yesterday (no arms, no legs, no belly)
2) "Connect the dots" is back.

LOL, exactly my thoughts. That's a different Murray!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Grace on January 06, 2011, 03:37:01 PM
Not so much shopped that picture, this is a very dark skinned Doc, finger nails accuately done, holding two mobiles - so a handsome man, but this Dolce & Gabbana belt is cracking me up - DG is out - should we tell him?
(I forgot completely about the allegedly child support debts in this context  ;) )


(oh and the pic is filed under "BEN_0086_src" not NPG or TMZ or usual pic titles.
which brings us to:

Michael Jackson "BEN"


Quote
LABEL…….. Motown Record
ENCODER…… LAME v3.97
BiTRATE…… VBRkbps/44.1kHz
MODE……… JStereo
GRABBER…… EACv0.95b3/–V0
YEAR……… 1986
RELEASE SiZE. 53,6 MB
TUNES…….. 10
SOURCE……. CDDA
GENRE…….. Pop

RLS DATE….. 11.06.2008
STR DATE….. 00.00.1986

N. T R A C K N A M E. TiME.
01 Ben 02:47
02 Greatest Show on Earth 02:51
03 People Make the World Go Round 03:17
04 We’ve Got A Good Thing Going 03:06
05 Everybody’s Somebody’s Fool 03:01
06 My Girl 03:11
07 What Goes Around Comes Around 03:34
08 In Our Small Way 03:40
09 Shoo-Be-Doo-Be-Doo-Da-Day 03:23
10 You Can Cry on My Shoulder 02:40
TOTAL 31:30 min

R E L E S E N O T E S
Ben was the second full-length solo album by American
singer Michael Jackson.

Released in August 1972, seven months after his
auspicious debut as a soloist, the album featured
more ballads than his debut.

http://www.michaeljackson.com/ (http://www.michaeljackson.com/)

http://disposable-arts.com/blog/?p=2629

 :lol: Thank you Michael. It's appreciated...  ;)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: lraving on January 06, 2011, 03:38:47 PM
Imagine this:

This man stands in front of his mirror, adjusting his tie and sings: We got it together baby!

Thanks for the laught :D
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: SeeingClues on January 06, 2011, 03:40:39 PM
Tied up in a knot... Just like the white sheet..
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 06, 2011, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
Not so much shopped that picture, this is a very dark skinned Doc, finger nails accuately done, holding two mobiles - so a handsome man, but this Dolce & Gabbana belt is cracking me up - DG is out - should we tell him?
(I forgot completely about the allegedly child support debts in this context  ;) )

La Toya Jackson: "Michael Will Always Be In My Dreams"
by Celebuzz on Aug. 2, 2009

(http://cdn.celebuzz.com/cb/assets/imgx/3/5/5/3/2/6/1/gallery-3553261.jpg?v=1249170626)
http://www.celebuzz.com/la-toya-jackson-michael-will-s123631/

In her dreams, just like many members of the forum.

(http://cache.pixazza.com/product/full/12a07ed6bf.jpeg)
http://buzzstyle.celebuzz.com/store/similar/12a07ed6bf/dampg-dolce-amp-gabbana-baseball-hat-white/

Look at the logo...the Crown again but Latoya's is bigger and there is something written below it.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: nefari on January 06, 2011, 03:49:08 PM
Notice also the other tracks lol. This makes me laugh. "Every Body's Somebody's Fool"
"What Goes around Comes Around" and just imagine Murray hugging up to a Non BeLIEver and saying "You can Cry on My Shoulder"...oh man this is just too ridiculous...

N. T R A C K N A M E. TiME.
01 Ben 02:47
02 Greatest Show on Earth 02:51
03 People Make the World Go Round 03:17
04 We’ve Got A Good Thing Going 03:06
05 Everybody’s Somebody’s Fool 03:01
06 My Girl 03:11
07 What Goes Around Comes Around 03:34
08 In Our Small Way 03:40
09 Shoo-Be-Doo-Be-Doo-Da-Day 03:23
10 You Can Cry on My Shoulder 02:40
TOTAL 31:30 min
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Grace on January 06, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
nefari...

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 06, 2011, 03:55:05 PM
Quote from: "nefari"
Notice also the other tracks lol. This makes me laugh. "Every Body's Somebody's Fool"
"What Goes around Comes Around" and just imagine Murray hugging up to a Non BeLIEver and saying "You can Cry on My Shoulder"...oh man this is just too ridiculous...

N. T R A C K N A M E. TiME.
01 Ben 02:47
02 Greatest Show on Earth 02:51
03 People Make the World Go Round 03:17
04 We’ve Got A Good Thing Going 03:06
05 Everybody’s Somebody’s Fool 03:01
06 My Girl 03:11
07 What Goes Around Comes Around 03:34
08 In Our Small Way 03:40
09 Shoo-Be-Doo-Be-Doo-Da-Day 03:23
10 You Can Cry on My Shoulder 02:40
TOTAL 31:30 min

Shoo-Be-Doo-Be-Doo-Da-Day seems to be relevant these days :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Adi on January 06, 2011, 04:07:52 PM
Wow.....Dr Murray has gained alot of weight in only 1 day...about 7-10 kilograms I'd say...all around his belly...those buttons look like they're literally going to pop any minute  :lol:

...or "someone" just popped on a belly suit.... 8-)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: nefari on January 06, 2011, 04:11:51 PM
I swear I'd probably throw dollars to see Murray attempt a spin in that get up :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on January 06, 2011, 04:17:15 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
1) That's not the dude we were presented yesterday (no arms, no legs, no belly)
2) "Connect the dots" is back.
I was thinking about this earlier today, "How can we 'connect the dots', when we don't know which way to go?" Numbers? Arrows? Other?  :? Or is it more like piece by piece by piece by piece?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ForTheTruth on January 06, 2011, 04:23:04 PM
I remember Michael and Christian went shopping at D&G in 2009. I don't know where Murray bought the bow tie, but it seems bow ties are a popular item with the company. So Murray also gets the D&G hook up as well lol, interesting. ;)

http://www.dolcegabbana.com/ (http://www.dolcegabbana.com/)

http://www.swide.com/luxury-magazine/Fa ... -/2009/3/7 (http://www.swide.com/luxury-magazine/Faces/Music/Michael-Jackson-in-Dolce---Gabbana-for-his-final-tour-/2009/3/7)
Spotted in Dolce & Gabbana's store in Rodeo Drive L.A. this week was King of Pop, Michael Jackson. Also announcing his return to the stage this week - was his shopping trip complete with stylist merely a coincidence?
Michael Jackson revealed this week that he would return to the spotlight after eight years by playing a series of concerts in London.

In L.A for what could perhaps be a pre-performance shopping spree, Michael was spotted with French stylist Christian Audigier in the Dolce & Gabbana's Rodeo Drive boutique that remained open after hours in order to accommodate the pop legend.

The King of Pop announced earlier this week that a series of shows in July would be his "final curtain call" in the British capital. Tickets priced between 50 pounds and 75 pounds ($70 and $105), are expected to sell-out immediately. For more on ticket sales see http://www.michaeljackson.com/ (http://www.michaeljackson.com/)


[YouTube][youtube:deqepahd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0a114psTXY[/youtube:deqepahd][/YouTube]
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Adi on January 06, 2011, 04:26:07 PM
I wonder if there is any more writing on the wall like there was on the fence the other day?  :lol:

Amazing isn't it how Dr M can walk freely around like this without a care in the world and absolutely nobody recognises him! Just like in the video of him shopping in the other thread.

 HOAX HOAX HOAX  8-)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: frogh777 on January 06, 2011, 04:30:42 PM
can someone give me a good reason why the option ''zoom in'' is given to us for this picture? this is the first time I have seen it!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: anewfan on January 06, 2011, 04:52:28 PM
@frog.....TMZ randomly has pictures of celebrities that you can zoom in on. But maybe we will find something on this one! I will have to take a closer look.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: frogh777 on January 06, 2011, 04:59:23 PM
Quote from: "anewfan"
@frog.....TMZ randomly has pictures of celebrities that you can zoom in on. But maybe we will find something on this one! I will have to take a closer look.
[attachment=0:2vgp4oaa]Knipsel.JPG[/attachment:2vgp4oaa]

yeah we get it, TMZ!!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 06, 2011, 05:02:58 PM
http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_image ... 86_src.jpg (http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2011/01/BEN_0086_src.jpg)

Where is the shadow of Murray? Reminds me of Peter Pan.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on January 06, 2011, 05:22:03 PM
He should've worn another shirt; I can clearly see his gut!!! Gross.  :|
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: cin_pyt on January 06, 2011, 05:23:11 PM
what caught my attention wasn't the bow tie it was his belly. That looks like a suit or something. That belly caught my attention and I'm quite paranoid right now with my busy schedule. Still the bow tie is LOL!!!!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 06, 2011, 05:40:53 PM
I agree that it looks like there is some kind of suit under that shirt. I miss shadow, Murray looks different, the pic looks photoshopped and it reminds me of Smooth Criminal, buttoning up his shirt, because it looks like he's making a lean.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on January 06, 2011, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I agree that it looks like there is some kind of suit under that shirt. I miss shadow, Murray looks different, the pic looks photoshopped and it reminds me of Smooth Criminal, buttoning up his shirt, because it looks like he's making a lean.
Maybe he drunk too much coffee...
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on January 06, 2011, 06:08:13 PM
Quote from: "marte"
Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/06/conrad-murray-bowtie-michael-jackson-manslaughter-preliminary-hearing-propofol-bad-tie/)
1/6/2011 11:36 AM PST by Johnny Lopez

After TMZ made fun of his unfortunate tie on Tuesday, sources tell us Conrad Murray went shopping and bought himself a new dapper bow tie.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/06/0106-conrad-murray-npg-zoom-launch.jpg) (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_murrays_court_style__zoom_view#tab=most_recent)

Doc showed off his new nerd chic look while meeting with his lawyers in downtown L.A. this morning.

Just dandy.

[hr:2qg11br4]hr[/hr:2qg11br4]

mmm....
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1322/offxn.jpg)
OMG ROFLMAO :shock:

If people don't start to question this circus soon...LOL how can anyone think this trial is real when they are cleary mocking people. Michael, TMZ and Conrad are having a good ole laugh on this show.  8-)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: nefari on January 06, 2011, 06:24:55 PM
That gut of his looks inflatable like a blimp. :D
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 06, 2011, 06:28:58 PM
Dr Murray was supposed to have said to the Dr at UCLA..  that he didnt know the time MJ stopped breathing as he wasnt wearing a watch.

In every photo ive seen of him, he has been wearing a watch.  He has one one here too.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 06, 2011, 06:36:43 PM
Quote from: "hope"
Quote from: "marte"
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1322/offxn.jpg)

After TMZ made fun of his unfortunate tie on Tuesday, sources tell us Conrad Murray went shopping and bought himself a new dapper bow tie.



Doc showed off his new nerd chic look while meeting with his lawyers in downtown L.A. this morning.

Just dandy.
What a f#@*ing joke :lol:  :lol:  :lol:



You can say that again!! It seems Murray is getting ready for his High School graduation all spiffed up..  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 06, 2011, 06:41:21 PM
Quote from: "Adi"
Wow.....Dr Murray has gained alot of weight in only 1 day...about 7-10 kilograms I'd say...all around his belly...those buttons look like they're literally going to pop any minute  :lol:

...or "someone" just popped on a belly suit.... 8-)


I was about to say the same thing. The picture ofyesterday in front of the fence he looked slimmer, now he got fatter. What happened they pumped him up, like the good year blimp   :lol:
Also his fingers if you look carefully, the tip up to his knuckles it is a black color than from his knuckles up a lighter brown color.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 06, 2011, 07:11:34 PM
[attachment=0:3qxdag5k]Hat man.png[/attachment:3qxdag5k]

credit Tracyk for the comparison.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 06, 2011, 07:14:47 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
[attachment=0:1n9aibs8]Hat man.png[/attachment:1n9aibs8]

credit Tracyk for the comparison.

Ok 2 solutions, or they shopped at the same store with bad taste, or Murray disguised himself like the old man with the hat? Very strange
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: PureLove on January 06, 2011, 07:30:41 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
yeah he loves her from the bottom of his heart. I bet he's buying a new tie.  

I knew I was right about buying a new tie :lol: And yeah Murray gained so much weight just in a day :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: PureLove on January 06, 2011, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
[attachment=0:2fysdz54]Hat man.png[/attachment:2fysdz54]

credit Tracyk for the comparison.

same colors. very similar ties hmmm
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: hope on January 06, 2011, 07:42:33 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
[attachment=0:20m8l33v]Hat man.png[/attachment:20m8l33v]

credit Tracyk for the comparison.
Looks like this guy (that coincidently wears the same tie) also has the same belly  :?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 06, 2011, 07:46:22 PM
Here is another comparison I made.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Tiecompare.jpg)

Very similar  :shock:  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 06, 2011, 07:49:44 PM
Has anyone done a comparison of Hatman and Murray...I think they might be the same person.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Grace on January 07, 2011, 12:57:37 AM
Quote from: "nefari"
That gut of his looks inflatable like a blimp. :D

Anybody got a needle?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ibelieveinmj on January 07, 2011, 12:59:02 AM
OMG...LMAO, you guys are too funny.  

And poor Murray, he's getting flack for his wardrobe just like Michael did when he wore the pj's to court.

This is getting so ridiculous now,  people have to be questioning WTF?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 07, 2011, 03:39:04 AM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
[attachment=0:jsifejz1]Hat man.png[/attachment:jsifejz1]

credit Tracyk for the comparison.

Ok 2 solutions, or they shopped at the same store with bad taste, or Murray disguised himself like the old man with the hat? Very strange

Orrrrrrrr, they are both MJ in disguise...
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: raphaelleanique on January 07, 2011, 05:52:30 AM
Quote from: "Grace"
Not so much shopped that picture, this is a very dark skinned Doc, finger nails accuately done, holding two mobiles - so a handsome man, but this Dolce & Gabbana belt is cracking me up - DG is out - should we tell him?
(I forgot completely about the allegedly child support debts in this context  ;) )


(oh and the pic is filed under "BEN_0086_src" not NPG or TMZ or usual pic titles.
which brings us to:

Michael Jackson "BEN"


Quote
LABEL…….. Motown Record
ENCODER…… LAME v3.97
BiTRATE…… VBRkbps/44.1kHz
MODE……… JStereo
GRABBER…… EACv0.95b3/–V0
YEAR……… 1986
RELEASE SiZE. 53,6 MB
TUNES…….. 10
SOURCE……. CDDA
GENRE…….. Pop

RLS DATE….. 11.06.2008
STR DATE….. 00.00.1986

N. T R A C K N A M E. TiME.
01 Ben 02:47
02 Greatest Show on Earth 02:51
03 People Make the World Go Round 03:17
04 We’ve Got A Good Thing Going 03:06
05 Everybody’s Somebody’s Fool 03:01
06 My Girl 03:11
07 What Goes Around Comes Around 03:34
08 In Our Small Way 03:40
09 Shoo-Be-Doo-Be-Doo-Da-Day 03:23
10 You Can Cry on My Shoulder 02:40
TOTAL 31:30 min

R E L E S E N O T E S
Ben was the second full-length solo album by American
singer Michael Jackson.

Released in August 1972, seven months after his
auspicious debut as a soloist, the album featured
more ballads than his debut.

http://www.michaeljackson.com/ (http://www.michaeljackson.com/)

http://disposable-arts.com/blog/?p=2629

 :lol: Thank you Michael. It's appreciated...  ;)

I don`t see how you get BEN_0086_src, I only see NPG.com under the picture and in the Exif view it also says NPG!? I am not good in such stuff, so what am I doing wrong?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: raphaelleanique on January 07, 2011, 05:53:41 AM
You know, I was about to post that, once again, NPG has its fingers in it, but then I saw your post...
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 07, 2011, 07:43:46 AM
Great find with the blue dots, Serenity Dream!

Also, don't the blue dots kind of look like the dots on a peacock?  Which could be significant in itself on so many levels.  

The Zoom in thingy is INTERESTING indeed.  I will zoom later (darn it work- stop distracting me!)

And yes, first we had the parallels to the "BAM" button up pic, now we have the Off the Wall parallels.  Btw- has anyone zoomed in on the wall behind Murray? Anything there?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Grace on January 07, 2011, 10:37:28 AM
Quote from: "raphaelleanique"
I don`t see how you get BEN_0086_src, I only see NPG.com under the picture and in the Exif view it also says NPG!? I am not good in such stuff, so what am I doing wrong?

You may right-click on any photo in the web and get the photo properties information - which gives the exact link and file name in the link. There you see that it's BEN_0086_src for this picture. src usually names the source and copyright. Of course that points to "Ben" Evenstad from NPG, but usually the pictures carry references to NPG or TMZ and not the single photographer.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: mjintrigue2012 on January 07, 2011, 10:56:09 AM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
Also, don't the blue dots kind of look like the dots on a peacock?  Which could be significant in itself on so many levels.
"Peacock Feathers have been used for healing for tens of thousands of years in every culture throughout time. They are said to carry Spiritual Healing Energy that can be used to assist people seeking balance and harmony in their lives. With the proper guidelines of use, they allow the individual to connect with the Universal Healing Energy and use this energy to heal people of all of their complaints, imbalances and disease. This tradition is based on this principle
Peacock Symbolism
Peacock symbolism speaks of attributes such as:
Glory
Vision
Royalty
Spirituality
Awakening
Immortality
Refinement
Incorruptibility
It is a possessor of some of the most admired human characteristics, and is a mbol of integrity and the beauty we can achieve when we endeavor to show our true colors.
In history, myth, legend and lore, the Peacock symbolism carries:
Nobility
Holiness
Guidance
Protection
Watchfulness
In Greco-Roman mythology the Peacock is identified with Hera (Juno) who created the Peacock from Argus whose hundred eyes (seen on the tail feathers of the Peacock) symbolize the vault of heaven and the "eyes" of the stars.
In Hinduism the Peacock is associated with Lakshmi who is a deity representing benevolence, patience, kindness, compassion and good luck.
Similar to Lakshmi, the Peacock is associated with Kwan-yin in Asian spirituality. Kwan-yin (or Quan Yin) is also an emblem of love, compassionate watchfulness, good-will, nurturing, and kind-heartedness. Legend tells us she chose to remain a mortal even though she could be immortal because she wished to stay behind and aid humanity in their spiritual evolution.

In Babylonia and Persia the Peacock is seen as a guardian to royalty, and is often seen in engravings upon the thrones of royalty.
In Christianity the Peacock symbolism represents the "all-seeing" church, along with the holiness and sanctity associated with it. Additionally, the Peacock represents resurrection, renewal and immortality within the spiritual teachings of Christianity. Themes of renewal are also linked to alchemical traditions to, as many schools of thought compare the resurrecting phoenix to the modern-day Peacock.
Contemplate the powers of the Peacock when you need more vibrancy and vitality in your experience. The Peacock can also help you on your spiritual Path, and breath new life into your walk of faith.
The Peacock can rejuvenate self-esteem levels too. If you're feeling "blah" and blue, imagine the glorious, techno-color display the Peacock provides. This puts us in a proper mood to embrace your own nobility. In no time, you'll be walking tall and proud as a Peacock too!"
(http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_s ... k_feathers (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_spiritual_meaning_of_peacock_feathers))
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: peggy99 on January 07, 2011, 11:27:07 AM
Sorry guys but the ties are not the same.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 07, 2011, 11:41:01 AM
Quote from: "peggy99"
Sorry guys but the ties are not the same.
No one said that they were "the same'. They are similar.

Similar (adjective)
1. Related in appearance or nature; alike though not identical.
2. showing resemblance in qualities, characteristics, or appearance; alike but not identical.
3. marked by correspondence or resemblance.
4. capable of replacing or changing places with something else; permitting mutual substitution without loss of function or suitability
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/similar

The part in red really stood out to me... :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on January 07, 2011, 11:41:48 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Here is another comparison I made.

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/Tiecompare.jpg)

Very similar  :shock:  :lol:



OMG   :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

Good catch, excellent well done  :D

Maybe wardrobe is getting short of ties   :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Kim on January 07, 2011, 11:50:45 AM
Quote from: "marte"
Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/06/conrad-murray-bowtie-michael-jackson-manslaughter-preliminary-hearing-propofol-bad-tie/)
1/6/2011 11:36 AM PST by Johnny Lopez

After TMZ made fun of his unfortunate tie on Tuesday, sources tell us Conrad Murray went shopping and bought himself a new dapper bow tie.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/06/0106-conrad-murray-npg-zoom-launch.jpg) (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/conrad_murrays_court_style__zoom_view#tab=most_recent)

Doc showed off his new nerd chic look while meeting with his lawyers in downtown L.A. this morning.

Just dandy.

[hr:3d57d72t]hr[/hr:3d57d72t]

mmm....
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1322/offxn.jpg)

Is he a clown or something? Because he's looking like one by wearing that!  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: paula-c on January 07, 2011, 02:05:47 PM
That looks fake belly and the shirt and jacket is not your size :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 07, 2011, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
[attachment=0:ux0jm64g]Hat man.png[/attachment:ux0jm64g]

credit Tracyk for the comparison.

Ok 2 solutions, or they shopped at the same store with bad taste, or Murray disguised himself like the old man with the hat? Very strange

Orrrrrrrr, they are both MJ in disguise...

Finally! Someone else thinks so too! :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: finfin on January 07, 2011, 03:41:24 PM
Thank you TMZ for reminding us of eyes and the subliminal messages
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f264/IndigoDreams0007/BlueMoonEclipsecomp.jpg)

Quote
Re: LMP interview with Oprah greenscreened?
by friendlikeme81 » Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:18 pm

2MuchMJLuv wrote:
I'm missing the whole "eye" thing. Where was it?
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=10517)
(http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/download/file.php?id=10518)
Quote
Re: Conrad Murray -- Just What the Doctor Ordered
by Grace » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:27 am

anewfan wrote:
*Mo* wrote:
http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/31/conrad-mu (http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/31/conrad-mu) ... ol-photos/

There are so many collages of faces all over this pic. On the guys leg there are a bunch....also on CM's right arm it looks like a signature of some sort, but I can't make out what it says. There is a face right at the gap by his receding hairline. I'm also seeing an M that is upside down in white on the right arm. There are also symbols, letters? on his neck face. I have to move my laptop in different angles to see different things. Anyone else see anything on this pic? Or is it just me?

You are right.


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Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: thepeacock2012 on January 07, 2011, 06:57:29 PM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
Great find with the blue dots, Serenity Dream!

Also, don't the blue dots kind of look like the dots on a peacock?  Which could be significant in itself on so many levels.  

The Zoom in thingy is INTERESTING indeed.  I will zoom later (darn it work- stop distracting me!)

And yes, first we had the parallels to the "BAM" button up pic, now we have the Off the Wall parallels.  Btw- has anyone zoomed in on the wall behind Murray? Anything there?
My thoughts excactly, and the tie on Hat Man looks there are 9's on it!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on January 07, 2011, 11:06:37 PM
hmmmm.  "'tied up in a knot."  This is exactly what I said a day before.

Quote
quoteRe: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
by SoldierofLOVE » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:21 am

He's tie-ing himself into a nice big KNOT.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16999&start=100 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16999&start=100)
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: mdc on January 07, 2011, 11:08:45 PM
It's 'Doctor Who' and his belly has regenerated overnight. lol  

Sorry, I was just reading something about the tv series 'Doctor Who' and it just struck me funny with the bow tie and all.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 07, 2011, 11:20:20 PM
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"
hmmmm.  "'tied up in a knot."  This is exactly what I said a day before.

Quote
quoteRe: Dr. Conrad Murray Ties One On
by SoldierofLOVE » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:21 am

He's tie-ing himself into a nice big KNOT.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16999&start=100 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16999&start=100)
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: bec on January 07, 2011, 11:35:46 PM
I think Murray either had recent hernia surgery or we for certainly have a body suit here.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: curls on January 08, 2011, 02:04:09 AM
Trying so hard to stay detached and objective here, but I so want Murray to turn out to be MJ in disguise!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: bec on January 08, 2011, 02:13:02 AM
Quote from: "curls"
Trying so hard to stay detached and objective here, but I so want Murray to turn out to be MJ in disguise!

It really would have people's jaws on the floor wouldn't it.

Quote
I don't even care if they're applauding, they have to have their jaws on the floor.
-Michael Jackson 2009
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on January 08, 2011, 07:49:13 AM
I read somewhere in this thread about the link of Murray's tie and a peacock. The peacock is also used as a logo for NBC TV network. See wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC).  " In 1967, NBC acquired MGM's classic 1939 film The Wizard of Oz..." and also Peacock Productions  http://www.peacockproductions.tv/series-specials/hidden-lives-of-michael-jacksons-children.php
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: mindseye on January 08, 2011, 09:32:32 AM
Speaking of bow ties, remember Bugsy,This is it. [youtube:2qmsu7sr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-t8PngHgWY&feature=related[/youtube:2qmsu7sr]
It's not all about ties, or the disguise, everyone lies when a man mysteriously dies
....Best act of the year.
[youtube:2qmsu7sr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEYYYMuwCyA&feature=related[/youtube:2qmsu7sr]
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Andrea on January 08, 2011, 09:38:08 AM
Good one mindseye!

"And oh what heights we'll hit, on with the show - this is it!"   That's perfect!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: TinkerbellStardust on January 08, 2011, 10:04:14 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
[attachment=0:1e5tytfm]Hat man.png[/attachment:1e5tytfm]

credit Tracyk for the comparison]

Orrrrrrrr, they are both MJ in disguise...

Souza, I am seriosly starting to think that too ! Now wouldn't that be awesome? Absolute Perfection.
But I keep wondering abourt how to do Murrays height.. I know he has tendency to shrink in between photos  :lol: Maybe he is more than one. Does his legs look strange in photos sometimes like his belly did this time, anyone?
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 08, 2011, 10:40:19 AM
Re peacock: after the split from Motown, The Jacksons used the peacock as the symbol for the production company they formed: " Peacock Productions." Michael writes in Moonwalk ( p 146, 147): (he explains why he was excited about choosing the peacock logo after reading more about the birds characteristics.
"The writer said that the peacock's full plumage would explode only when it was in love, and then all the colors would shine- all the colors of the rainbow on one body. I was immediately taken with that beautiful image and the meaning behind it. The bird's plumage conveyed the message I was looking for to explain the Jacksons and our intense devotion to one another..."
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 08, 2011, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: "marte"
Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot

Tie someone (up) in knots - figure of speech
To become anxious or upset.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/tied+up+in+knots
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on January 08, 2011, 01:57:53 PM
Thanks, Ignisaeternus, I might read this part about the peacock in "Moonwalk" again. A peacock is a beautiful and majestic bird with feathers of changing colors from glow to shine, such as rainbows, soap bubbles and the blue sky, which are caused by light reflection. I believe the peacock has much significance in Michael's life.

Lord Byron wrote a poem The Vision of Judgment (1822). It is a satirical poem, which depicts a dispute in Heaven over the fate of George III's soul. In Psalm LXI (61) there's Archangel Michael who turned in all colors as a peacock tail. http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/lo ... /6006.html (http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/lord_byron/poems/6006.html).

"When Michael saw this host, he first grew pale,
As angels can; next, like Italian twilight,
He turn'd all colours — as a peacock's tail,
Or sunset streaming through a Gothic skylight
In some old abbey, or a trout not stale,
Or distant lightning on the horizon by night,
Or a fresh rainbow, or a grand review
Of thirty regiments in red, green, and blue"
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: raphaelleanique on January 08, 2011, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
Quote from: "raphaelleanique"
I don`t see how you get BEN_0086_src, I only see NPG.com under the picture and in the Exif view it also says NPG!? I am not good in such stuff, so what am I doing wrong?

You may right-click on any photo in the web and get the photo properties information - which gives the exact link and file name in the link. There you see that it's BEN_0086_src for this picture. src usually names the source and copyright. Of course that points to "Ben" Evenstad from NPG, but usually the pictures carry references to NPG or TMZ and not the single photographer.


Thank you, Grace!
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Okay Annie on January 08, 2011, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
[attachment=0:kpi6eiyv]Hat man.png[/attachment:kpi6eiyv]

credit Tracyk for the comparison.

Ok 2 solutions, or they shopped at the same store with bad taste, or Murray disguised himself like the old man with the hat? Very strange

Orrrrrrrr, they are both MJ in disguise...

That's what I was just thinking! LOL
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: puremind on January 08, 2011, 08:40:07 PM
Can't be one is much taller.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: mindseye on January 09, 2011, 09:47:30 AM
I believe the hat man is Michael, but definitely not in disguise as Conrad Murray in these pics.
Title: Re: Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
Post by: Elsa on January 09, 2011, 10:41:40 AM
Quote from: "ignisaeternus"
Great find with the blue dots, Serenity Dream!

Also, don't the blue dots kind of look like the dots on a peacock? Which could be significant in itself on so many levels.  

The Zoom in thingy is INTERESTING indeed.  I will zoom later (darn it work- stop distracting me!)

And yes, first we had the parallels to the "BAM" button up pic, now we have the Off the Wall parallels. Btw- has anyone zoomed in on the wall behind Murray? Anything there?

The peacock feathers with the dots are called 'eye' feathers so maybe the meaning is 'eyes on the ties'.  

As for the wall - there are bricks.  Is it a reference to PT Barnum's Brick man?

Quote from: "marte"
mmm....
(http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1322/offxn.jpg)

Now I have Pink Floyds  'Another Brick in the Wall'  going through my head.
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