Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
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People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/04/michael-jackson-doctor-conrad-murray-preliminary-hearing-trial-witness-propofol-death/)
1/6/2011 2:45 PM PST by TMZ Staff
UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA
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Two doctors from the UCLA Medical Center testified ... Michael Jackson was dead on arrival, yet Dr. Murray told them "not to give up easily and try to save the patient."
Dr. Richelle Cooper testified when Jackson arrived at UCLA there was "no signs of life."
Dr. Cooper added Murray was not forthcoming about the drugs administered to MJ. Cooper says Murray copped to giving Michael lorazepam, but made no mention of Propofol.
And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Dr. Thao Nguyen testified Dr. Murray denied giving Michael any sedatives or narcotics, other than the lorazepam.
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136 pounds. :?
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DOA - dead on arrival or maybe dead or alive ;)
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and now? :cry:
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:
http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/gallery/this-is-it/michael-jackson-this-is-it-guitar-1.jpg)
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136 lbs does correlate with the AR report. Who said he was only 108 lbs?
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136 lbs does correlate with the AR report. Who said he was only 108 lbs?
Karen Faye said that is what the mortician said he weighed
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The description they have it is not Michael. Like Souza said Michael is 5'11. No way it is Michael.
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Conrad Murray - Michael Was Alive at UCLA
Posted Mar 30th 2010 2:00AM by TMZ Staff
TMZ has learned doctors who worked on Michael Jackson at the UCLA Medical Center ran two EKGs on the singer, and at least one doctor who interpreted the results claims there was heart rhythmic activity both times.
Furthermore, sources tell TMZ Dr. Conrad Murray insists he was able to restart Jackson's heart at the singer's home before paramedics arrived and then maintained heart activity in the ambulance.
Dr. Murray's evaluation contradicts paramedics at the scene who wanted to take Jackson to the morgue, not UCLA, because they believed he was dead.
It also contradicts Joe Jackson's lawyer, Brian Oxman, who tells TMZ he believes Jackson was dead even before paramedics arrived at the house. Oxman says the weak pulse detected at UCLA was in reaction to resuscitation efforts.
We're told the criminal case is shaping up as a legal war between medical experts, who will be interpreting medical tests and charts in various ways -- always confusing for a jury.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0jdZdqbmX (http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0jdZdqbmX)
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:
http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/gallery/this-is-it/michael-jackson-this-is-it-guitar-1.jpg)
Hmm, I think that if you take away the clothes you're left with a pretty skinny man.
As for the 5'11" and 5'9" discrepancy, did you know that people lose in height as they age? I'm not sure how fast/gradual that process happens, but it does happen. So maybe Michael was 5'11" at age 30, but 2 inches shorter at age 50... :?:
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:
http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/gallery/this-is-it/michael-jackson-this-is-it-guitar-1.jpg)
Hmm, I think that if you take away the clothes you're left with a pretty skinny man.
As for the 5'11" and 5'9" discrepancy, did you know that people lose in height as they age? I'm not sure how fast/gradual that process happens, but it does happen. So maybe Michael was 5'11" at age 30, but 2 inches shorter at age 50... :?:
My dear friend, you are wrong, I am 50 and I am still 5'6, sorry to disappoint you. You start shrinking in your 70 not even my mom is 77 and she still is 5'6 I know my dad shrunk he is 82 yrs old. Michael did not shrink due to his age 50 is young man. We are not over the hill yet. :lol:
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I always thought Michael was 5'9. Where did the reports of 5'11 come from?
Regarding KF and the mortician's claims that Michael only weighed 108 lbs, that seems like an entirely drastic weight loss from the autopsy to the mortician's table. I realize that organ and tissue samples were taken, but 28 lbs worth seems a little much to me.
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Two doctors from the UCLA Medical Center testified ... Michael Jackson was dead on arrival, yet Dr. Murray told them "not to give up easily and try to save the patient."
Dr. Richelle Cooper testified when Jackson arrived at UCLA there was "no signs of life."
Dr. Cooper added Murray was not forthcoming about the drugs administered to MJ. Cooper says Murray copped to giving Michael lorazepam, but made no mention of Propofol.
And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Dr. Thao Nguyen testified Dr. Murray denied giving Michael any sedatives or narcotics, other than the lorazepam.
Only ONE of these doctors is listed in the UCLA Physician Directory.
http://www.uclahealth.org/body.cfm?xyzp ... ion=simple (http://www.uclahealth.org/body.cfm?xyzpdqabc=0&id=479&action=list&subaction=view&searchaction=simple)
Search our Physician Directory
Use the Advanced Search
Last Name Cooper (starts with)
First Name Richelle
Specialty
Keyword
Cooper, Richelle MD
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http://www.uclahealth.org/body.cfm?xyzp ... &ref=25337 (http://www.uclahealth.org/body.cfm?xyzpdqabc=0&id=479&action=detail&ref=25337)
UCLA Physician Richelle Cooper, MD specializes in Emergency Medicine.
Specialty : Emergency Medicine
Gender : Female
Language Spoken : English
Hospital Affiliation : Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center
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The only two links I can find for a Dr. Thao Nguyen are
Dr. Thao Nguyen, M.D. Urogynecology - Rockville, Maryland
http://www.suggestadoctor.com/doctor_15 ... nguyen.htm (http://www.suggestadoctor.com/doctor_152837_thao_nguyen.htm)
Dr. Thao Nguyen M.D. Board Certified in Ophthalmology - San Diego, CA
http://ucsd.photobooks.com/directory/pr ... id=0003460 (http://ucsd.photobooks.com/directory/profile.asp?setsize=10&dbase=main&pict_id=0003460)
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:
http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/gallery/this-is-it/michael-jackson-this-is-it-guitar-1.jpg)
Michael is very skinny person he probably dose weigh 136 Ibs. On his mug shot, it said he weighed 120 and his height was 5'11. And pictures are sometimes deceiving
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:
http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/gallery/this-is-it/michael-jackson-this-is-it-guitar-1.jpg)
Right here I recall the article I have read long time ago on wordpress web site if I am correct, don't remember the author, who was saying romanian fatal cancer patient was used for hoax. That's why paramedics did not recognize "MJ" , looked hospice patient, and the weight was light.
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:
http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/gallery/this-is-it/michael-jackson-this-is-it-guitar-1.jpg)
Hmm, I think that if you take away the clothes you're left with a pretty skinny man.
As for the 5'11" and 5'9" discrepancy, did you know that people lose in height as they age? I'm not sure how fast/gradual that process happens, but it does happen. So maybe Michael was 5'11" at age 30, but 2 inches shorter at age 50... :?:
Maybe he did shrunk do to stress, but who knows
My dear friend, you are wrong, I am 50 and I am still 5'6, sorry to disappoint you. You start shrinking in your 70 not even my mom is 77 and she still is 5'6 I know my dad shrunk he is 82 yrs old. Michael did not shrink due to his age 50 is young man. We are not over the hill yet. :lol:
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(http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jacko/mjsb112003booking.jpg)
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:
http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/gallery/this-is-it/michael-jackson-this-is-it-guitar-1.jpg)
Right here I recall the article I have read long time ago on wordpress web site if I am correct, don't remember the author, who was saying romanian fatal cancer patient was used for hoax. That's why paramedics did not recognize "MJ" , looked hospice patient, and the weight was light.
Do you have a copy of this article or know where to direct to it? I'm very interested in seeing it.
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Is there anything other than the mug shot that indicates he is 5'11? I'm asking because many of his shoes have significant heels, and I don't think all Police stations make people remove their shoes before the mug shot is taken.
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Some people whose close to him had said he's 5'10 (1.78 m)
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Some people whose close to him had said he's 5'10 (1.78 m)
Thanks. I can see a 1 inch difference then from a person with shoes and hair compared to a person without shoes or hair (ie. autopsied body).
I also wonder if he was really exactly 120 lbs in 2003 or if that is just the number he gave the Police dept. He definitely looked thinner in 2009 than he did in 2003. I have a friend who has been arrested before. I will ask him if he was weighed and measured upon booking, or if the cops just asked him for that info. He doesn't live in CA though.
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Hmmm...this does seem strange. Did Dr. Cooper weigh MJ? That would be rather odd for a doctor to weigh a patient who was DOA. And if Dr. Cooper did not weigh MJ, then how would this testimony be admissible in court? Of course, this is coming from TMZ and we do not have the actual court transcript...but it would seem to me that if Dr. Cooper did not weigh MJ (which again would be very strange for a doc to weigh a dead person), then the statement should have been "based on autopsy findings (or recent medical examinations, or whatever), Michael Jackson weighed 136lbs". I would think that a lawyer would ask how Dr. Cooper knows for a fact that MJ weighed 136lbs, especially since there has been discrepancy over this issue.
With L.O.V.E. always.
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I found different Driver's Licenses of Michael with different infos of his weight and height :lol: :lol:
http://www.strangecosmos.com/content/item/13528.html (http://www.strangecosmos.com/content/item/13528.html)
http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF (http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF)
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(http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jacko/mjsb112003booking.jpg)
In this picture he weighs 120 lbs. even less than when he supposedly died. Isn't that funny~!
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Oh my, I didn't like that first link at all! The second one with the real Driver's license shows his height at 5'9. I think 5'9 - 5'10 is more accurate than the 5'11 from the mug shot.
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:
http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/gallery/this-is-it/michael-jackson-this-is-it-guitar-1.jpg)
Right here I recall the article I have read long time ago on wordpress web site if I am correct, don't remember the author, who was saying romanian fatal cancer patient was used for hoax. That's why paramedics did not recognize "MJ" , looked hospice patient, and the weight was light.
Do you have a copy of this article or know where to direct to it? I'm very interested in seeing it.
I FOUND THE ARTICLE!
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -died.html (http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html)
Thursday, July 2, 2009
Michael Jackson is not Dead; so WHO died?
Contents copyright June 2009, WNB, at Illuminus Theo
Why and how Dimitrie Draghicescu died in Jackson's place.
[Note: Dimitrie was unrelated to the famous Romanian writer and diplomat who died in 1945; both Dimitrie and Draghicescu are relatively common names in Romania]
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The Truth Behind Michael Jackson Death Hoax
The outpouring of grief over Michael Jackson's death, and the sheer magnitude of the deception that Illuminus Theo (IT) has allowed itself to be a party to, now force me to reveal what many have suspected (and with good reason). Michael Jackson did not die--but someone else did. Who died in Jackson's place, and why did Michael Jackson stage his own death in one of the greatest ruses in history? For that matter, why did my own highly reclusive order help Jackson pull this off? I must share this, and quickly, and hope that this blog is not removed before enough people have learned the truth, because what Michael Jackson has just pulled off is nothing compared to the plans that he has for us during the coming century.
Why Did Illuminus Theo Agree to be a part of the Michael Jackson Death Conspiracy?
Quite simply, who could turn down Michael Jackson when he asked for help? Even his closest confidantes admitted that whatever Michael wanted, he got. But when he approached our Order four years ago in Naples, Italy, we were overwhelmed by the generosity of his promised reward (which we will yet receive; the reports of his so-called bankruptcy are as fraudulent as his staged death). These funds will enable our order to further the research which we have pursued for almost 700 years--unheralded, unrestricted by the Vatican (they did not even know of us until the 1940s), and unfunded, as we had our own financial resources--at least until the financial fiascoes of 2000. But what does it profit a man if he gain the world and lose his soul? Even Michael's millions would not have been enough if he had not approached us with a golden carrot in one hand and an iron stick in the other.
And it is much longer. Read it
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(http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/jacko/mjsb112003booking.jpg)
In this picture he weighs 120 lbs. even less than when he supposedly died. Isn't that funny~!
Sorry about the double post on my last message! I didn't realize it had posted. Anyway, I think the 120 lbs either just came from his license or that is the number he told the police. I am pretty sure that Police stations don't weigh people upon booking.
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I think he is closer to 5'11. When knowing that Brooke Shields is an even 6' and looking at pictures they are either almost the same height or she is taller meaning she is wearing heels. Then looking at him and LMP she is significantly shorter being only 5'3'. Also, I am almost 6' and my oldest son is 5'2" and the comparison between Michael and LMP when compared to my son and myself is very close.
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I THINK MJ IS 5'10 AND HIS WEIGHT OF 136 IS TRUE...IF NOT 136 MAYBE AT 140, because he is skinny,very skinny,and he would have been less by the pounds but his height makes him way more..
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I thought one witness yesterday in court said he weighed 121lbs? One of the emt's perhaps? Not sure why they'd know...
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he's 5'9, its on his diver DL
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Upon arrival while trying to save his life they weighed him? That is interesting.
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They probably just noted his weight. Some hospital beds have scales built into them, so it was just a matter of noting the weight which could have been done after calling time of death for their records.
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Weight doesn't really matter.
I'm more interested in UCLA statement at the hearing that MJ was DOA when last spring they said MJ had a heart beat in the ER. Dr. Cooper was quoted in several articles saying they had heart activity on two ekgs and even inserted a balloon pump.
That's not DOA.
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scorpionchik
I remember reading that article from that blogger a long time ago. Kinda scared me and then I realized it was a joke, but very creative.
Andrea said...
Dimitrie Drăghicescu (or Dumitru Drăghicescu) (1875 - 1945) was a Romanian politician, sociologist, diplomat and writer. The famous 'Dimitrie Drăghicescu' died in 1945 so I guess the 'Dimitrie Drăghicescu' who died in Michael Jackson's place in 2009 was another Romanian 'Dimitrie Drăghicescu' less well known maybe? Also if you take the name Father 'Lingyu Fu' and put it round the other way you get 'Fu Lingyu' or to put it another way 'Foolin' You' or 'Fooling You'!! Is this 'illuminus Theo' taking us all for a ride? Coz that would not be fair to Michael Jackson and Michael's family, friends and fans. We need to know the 'truth' a lot of things about Mike's death do not add up! I don't know if Mike is alive or dead. I hope though Theo isn't having us on. Mike is still an enigma. Peace and blessings.
July 16, 2009 1:50 AM
Also about the weight and height, when you see MJ in many pics, to me he's always looked more like 5'9", not 5'11". Anyway my son is 6' and weights 142, he's just nice. Michael to me has always looked much slimmer, but that's just his normal slim look, sometimes he looks like he's gained weight.
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I am lost on his height. At some pictures he is clearly tall (around 5'11" or even 6 feet) and in some picture he looks like he's only 5'7". That is a huge difference and part of the illusion IMO.
In Moonwalk he writes that he is 5'10". Only logical to pick something in between when you are creating an illusion. Mostly I hear that people who met him say that he was way taller than they thought.
About the weight: 120 lbs is around 55 kg. If he is 5'10" or even 5'11" he must have VERY light bones, because that is very very light. Even though slim, I never thought he was that skinny in the 80's. Around 2001-2003 he even was pretty 'heavy'. Just look at the 30th anniversary and the Batshit tapes. No way he was 120 lbs there. So either he just gave the police that info, or it's getting even more confusing. Who is who?
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I am lost on his height. At some pictures he is clearly tall (around 5'11" or even 6 feet) and in some picture he looks like he's only 5'7". That is a huge difference and part of the illusion IMO.
In Moonwalk he writes that he is 5'10". Only logical to pick something in between when you are creating an illusion. Mostly I hear that people who met him say that he was way taller than they thought.
About the weight: 120 lbs is around 55 kg. If he is 5'10" or even 5'11" he must have VERY light bones, because that is very very light. Even though slim, I never thought he was that skinny in the 80's. Around 2001-2003 he even was pretty 'heavy'. Just look at the 30th anniversary and the Batshit tapes. No way he was 120 lbs there. So either he just gave the police that info, or it's getting even more confusing. Who is who?
Basically he has very light - or at least very thin - bones.
I was a little shocked how his wrist looked on the Thriller cover when I first saw that. I was a child back then, so I tried if I could do it too with my wrists :) I was quite skinny, just like now (decades later), and I have thin bones, so I could do that and still can do that :lol:
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136 pounds. :?
Thats 9st 7lb, I have a male client (horse rider) who is about MJ size he only weighs about 112 lbs 8 st for those not from UK 14 lb = 1 stone (st) so I dont think that weight is that bad, really, my client is a strong fit chap just eats very healthy! Dont dispair at the weight guys.
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.
Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:
http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/wp-content/gallery/this-is-it/michael-jackson-this-is-it-guitar-1.jpg)
Right here I recall the article I have read long time ago on wordpress web site if I am correct, don't remember the author, who was saying romanian fatal cancer patient was used for hoax. That's why paramedics did not recognize "MJ" , looked hospice patient, and the weight was light.
Do you have a copy of this article or know where to direct to it? I'm very interested in seeing it.
I FOUND THE ARTICLE!
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -died.html (http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html)
Thursday, July 2, 2009
Michael Jackson is not Dead; so WHO died?
Contents copyright June 2009, WNB, at Illuminus Theo
Why and how Dimitrie Draghicescu died in Jackson's place.
[Note: Dimitrie was unrelated to the famous Romanian writer and diplomat who died in 1945; both Dimitrie and Draghicescu are relatively common names in Romania]
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The Truth Behind Michael Jackson Death Hoax
The outpouring of grief over Michael Jackson's death, and the sheer magnitude of the deception that Illuminus Theo (IT) has allowed itself to be a party to, now force me to reveal what many have suspected (and with good reason). Michael Jackson did not die--but someone else did. Who died in Jackson's place, and why did Michael Jackson stage his own death in one of the greatest ruses in history? For that matter, why did my own highly reclusive order help Jackson pull this off? I must share this, and quickly, and hope that this blog is not removed before enough people have learned the truth, because what Michael Jackson has just pulled off is nothing compared to the plans that he has for us during the coming century.
Why Did Illuminus Theo Agree to be a part of the Michael Jackson Death Conspiracy?
Quite simply, who could turn down Michael Jackson when he asked for help? Even his closest confidantes admitted that whatever Michael wanted, he got. But when he approached our Order four years ago in Naples, Italy, we were overwhelmed by the generosity of his promised reward (which we will yet receive; the reports of his so-called bankruptcy are as fraudulent as his staged death). These funds will enable our order to further the research which we have pursued for almost 700 years--unheralded, unrestricted by the Vatican (they did not even know of us until the 1940s), and unfunded, as we had our own financial resources--at least until the financial fiascoes of 2000. But what does it profit a man if he gain the world and lose his soul? Even Michael's millions would not have been enough if he had not approached us with a golden carrot in one hand and an iron stick in the other.
And it is much longer. Read it
well found, good article, I found this last year around July time, its well worth reading.
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I THINK MJ IS 5'10 AND HIS WEIGHT OF 136 IS TRUE...IF NOT 136 MAYBE AT 140, because he is skinny,very skinny,and he would have been less by the pounds but his height makes him way more..
Mj was always skinny, I never saw him fatter that he actually is now. I don't find he is frail etc..
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Maybe I can help you with the height of Michael. I met Michael in Montreal september 13th 2003 in Montreal when he came to see the headquarters of Cirque du soleil.
I am on the border of 5"6... To me he definitely is 5"11, he has a head more than me, and I can tell you that he is taller than I thought. He is very very tall...
When I met him though, you can clearly see that he has a little more weight than usual. I met him 2 months before he did the One more chance video...
Thanks!
L.O.V.E.
Julie xxx
http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/micha ... ntreal(313 (http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/michael-jackson-visit-montreal(313))
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I am lost on his height. At some pictures he is clearly tall (around 5'11" or even 6 feet) and in some picture he looks like he's only 5'7". That is a huge difference and part of the illusion IMO.
In Moonwalk he writes that he is 5'10". Only logical to pick something in between when you are creating an illusion. Mostly I hear that people who met him say that he was way taller than they thought.
About the weight: 120 lbs is around 55 kg. If he is 5'10" or even 5'11" he must have VERY light bones, because that is very very light. Even though slim, I never thought he was that skinny in the 80's. Around 2001-2003 he even was pretty 'heavy'. Just look at the 30th anniversary and the Batshit tapes. No way he was 120 lbs there. So either he just gave the police that info, or it's getting even more confusing. Who is who?
LMAO, i agree, it's very confusing
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Maybe I can help you with the height of Michael. I met Michael in Montreal september 13th 2003 in Montreal when he came to see the headquarters of Cirque du soleil.
I am on the border of 5"6... To me he definitely is 5"11, he has a head more than me, and I can tell you that he is taller than I thought. He is very very tall...
When I met him though, you can clearly see that he has a little more weight than usual. I met him 2 months before he did the One more chance video...
Thanks!
L.O.V.E.
Julie xxx
http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/micha ... ntreal(313 (http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/michael-jackson-visit-montreal(313))
what kind shoes he had on because his shoes (depending what shoes he wearing) makes a little be it taller, and most of the time michael wears boots and boots makes him taller
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Maybe I can help you with the height of Michael. I met Michael in Montreal september 13th 2003 in Montreal when he came to see the headquarters of Cirque du soleil.
I am on the border of 5"6... To me he definitely is 5"11, he has a head more than me, and I can tell you that he is taller than I thought. He is very very tall...
When I met him though, you can clearly see that he has a little more weight than usual. I met him 2 months before he did the One more chance video...
Thanks!
L.O.V.E.
Julie xxx
http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/micha ... ntreal(313 (http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/michael-jackson-visit-montreal(313))
what kind shoes he had on because his shoes (depending what shoes he wearing) makes a little be it taller, and most of the time michael wears boots and boots makes him taller
hmmmmmmm.... I haven't looked at his shoes, I was like in dream, and just watching him, so sorry, I didn't think about looking at his shoes... loool! :D
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How many years has Dimitrie Draghicescu :?:
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Maybe I can help you with the height of Michael. I met Michael in Montreal september 13th 2003 in Montreal when he came to see the headquarters of Cirque du soleil.
I am on the border of 5"6... To me he definitely is 5"11, he has a head more than me, and I can tell you that he is taller than I thought. He is very very tall...
When I met him though, you can clearly see that he has a little more weight than usual. I met him 2 months before he did the One more chance video...
Thanks!
L.O.V.E.
Julie xxx
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That's so awesome you got to meet him! :D Must have been surreal to say the least. Can you tell us more about it?
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I FOUND THE ARTICLE!
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -died.html (http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html)
I just stumbled over something I said July 10th, 2009:
Now it’s a romanian who got paid to die on behalf of MJ. And Romania is home of vampire
castle and vampires are representing the non-dead and MJ wanted eternal live…
hmmm....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_on_Arrival_%28song%29
"Dead on Arrival"
"Dead on Arrival" is Fall Out Boy's first single from their album Take This to Your Grave[/size]. It was released on blue 7" vinyl. The song was also included on a Kerrang! compilation CD.
Additionally, the song is playable in the game Rock Band.
The music video was made up from various clips of the band performing live and traveling around the U.S. to gigs. The band said that the song was supposed to show that they were homesick. Jack Marin (ex-Cute Is What We Aim For bassist) can be seen for a short period of time in the crowd. The police in the video were The Arlington Heights Police Department and had the show shut down, but Fall Out Boy apologized to them, and thanked them for being in their video. One of the venues in the video is the Knights of Columbus Hall in Arlington Heights, Illinois
"Dead On Arrival" is the first track on Fall Out Boy's latest release, a compilation album entitled "Believers Never Die: Greatest Hits", which was released on November 17.
and it continues:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Believers_Never_Die_-_Greatest_Hits
CD
All songs written and composed by Fall Out Boy, except where noted.
1. "Dead on Arrival" – 3:16
2. "Grand Theft Autumn/Where Is Your Boy" – 3:12
3. "Saturday" – 3:38
4. "Sugar, We're Goin Down" – 3:51
5. "Dance, Dance" – 3:01
6. "A Little Less Sixteen Candles, a Little More "Touch Me"" – 2:50
7. "This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race" – 3:33
8. "Thnks fr th Mmrs" – 3:28
9. "The Take Over, the Breaks Over" – 3:35
10. "I'm Like a Lawyer with the Way I'm Always Trying to Get You Off (Me & You)" – 3:35
11. "Beat It" (featuring John Mayer) – 3:49 (Michael Jackson)
12. "I Don't Care" – 3:39
13. "America's Suitehearts" – 3:41
14. "What a Catch, Donnie" – 4:57
15. "Alpha Dog" – 3:42
Bonus Tracks
16. "From Now on We Are Enemies" – 3:36
17. "Yule Shoot Your Eye Out" – 3:41
18. "Growing Up" – 2:56
19. "The Carpal Tunnel of Love" (Bonus track in Japan) – 3:23 (Fall Out Boy, Wesley Eisold)
A message is written on the inside spine of the CD case which reads ""ARE YOU WATCHING CLOSELY?""
;)
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I FOUND THE ARTICLE!
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -died.html (http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html)
I just stumbled over something I said July 10th, 2009:
Now it’s a romanian who got paid to die on behalf of MJ. And Romania is home of vampire
castle and vampires are representing the non-dead and MJ wanted eternal live…
hmmm....
I skip vampire part, can't be agree or disagree, I don't know. To me it is not serious, but you never know. But, the fact that Michael was scared of dying is true, someone's autopsy out there-is fact, I can't believe that autopsy is fake because Michael bribed coroner chief, and the autopsy has inconsistency of body measure is also fact. So,Dimitry had fatal illness and Michael said I will pay your family if you "become" Michael and die as MJ. Simply makes sense.
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I FOUND THE ARTICLE!
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -died.html (http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html)
I just stumbled over something I said July 10th, 2009:
Now it’s a romanian who got paid to die on behalf of MJ. And Romania is home of vampire
castle and vampires are representing the non-dead and MJ wanted eternal live…
hmmm....
I skip vampire part, can't be agree or disagree, I don't know. To me it is not serious, but you never know. But, the fact that Michael was scared of dying is true, someone's autopsy out there-is fact, I can't believe that autopsy is fake because Michael bribed coroner chief, and the autopsy has inconsistency of body measure is also fact. So,Dimitry had fatal illness and Michael said I will pay your family if you "become" Michael and die as MJ. Simply makes sense.
I think that's possible. And in that case, if Murray is not a doctor but an actor and gave that man the fatal dose of propofol, there is no problem as far as I have heard. Someone said that in the US it is possible to assist in a suicide when someone is terminally ill, as long as you are not a doctor. I hope though someone will read this and tell me it's BS, because I think it's ridiculous. If someone is that ill and can't be saved, that person has the right to end his life in my opinion but with the help of someone who actually knows what he's doing, not someone who has no clue how to even stick a needle in your arm. (don't jump on me about this, this is my opinion and I live in a country where this is actually legal and accepted, as long as someone is still clear in the mind. A discussion about it would be useless since no one will change my opinion on this and it will be off-topic. Mentioning this just in case someone feels offended by this opinion.)
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This guy did this for people Dr. Kevorkian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian)
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Dr. Kevorkian comments on MJ and Murry. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/0 ... 76285.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/03/dr-kevorkian-michael-jack_n_276285.html)
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This guy did this for people Dr. Kevorkian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian)
He also served 8 years in prison for it too though. And a condition of his release was that he never do it again.
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This guy did this for people Dr. Kevorkian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian)
He also served 8 years in prison for it too though. And a condition of his release was that he never do it again.
Yes but 3 states are thinking or have passed this to be able to be legal. He wanted to run in congress to get it passed? I just wanted to post what I found...If someone is in pain and all these pills they give them does not help I believe it is their right if they don't want to be in pain anymore..just my opinion.
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I FOUND THE ARTICLE!
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -died.html (http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html)
I just stumbled over something I said July 10th, 2009:
Now it’s a romanian who got paid to die on behalf of MJ. And Romania is home of vampire
castle and vampires are representing the non-dead and MJ wanted eternal live…
I skip vampire part, can't be agree or disagree, I don't know. To me it is not serious, but you never know. But, the fact that Michael was scared of dying is true, someone's autopsy out there-is fact, I can't believe that autopsy is fake because Michael bribed coroner chief, and the autopsy has inconsistency of body measure is also fact. So,Dimitry had fatal illness and Michael said I will pay your family if you "become" Michael and die as MJ. Simply makes sense.
I think that's possible. And in that case, if Murray is not a doctor but an actor and gave that man the fatal dose of propofol, there is no problem as far as I have heard. Someone said that in the US it is possible to assist in a suicide when someone is terminally ill, as long as you are not a doctor. I hope though someone will read this and tell me it's BS, because I think it's ridiculous. If someone is that ill and can't be saved, that person has the right to end his life in my opinion but with the help of someone who actually knows what he's doing, not someone who has no clue how to even stick a needle in your arm. (don't jump on me about this, this is my opinion and I live in a country where this is actually legal and accepted, as long as someone is still clear in the mind. A discussion about it would be useless since no one will change my opinion on this and it will be off-topic. Mentioning this just in case someone feels offended by this opinion.)
If we believe and turns out it is true about cancer patient Dimitri died as Michael, then I don't think his life was taken. He passed away on his time. The presence of bottles of Lidocaine in the room says to me there was cancer patient. Lidocaine is a strong analgetic used for cancer patients when they have a pain if morphine is not available. Otherwise, why would Lidocaine needed Michael for sleeping problem?
As for 'Doctor Death' Jack Gevorkian comment, he is ass hole but that's his opinion. He believes patient should get what they want. Although he got convicted for that, he still sticks to his theory. maybe he is right, but only God has the right to take a life of its creature. And there is also the law and no one is above the law.
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This guy did this for people Dr. Kevorkian. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kevorkian)
He also served 8 years in prison for it too though. And a condition of his release was that he never do it again.
Yes but 3 states are thinking or have passed this to be able to be legal. He wanted to run in congress to get it passed? I just wanted to post what I found...If someone is in pain and all these pills they give them does not help I believe it is their right if they don't want to be in pain anymore..just my opinion.
I didn't know they were trying to make it legal in 3 states. Do you know which ones? I agree that people should have the right to die peacefully if they are terminally ill, and have always had mixed feelings that Kevorkian went to prison for it. At least he didn't have to serve the full 10-15 years.
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I FOUND THE ARTICLE!
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -died.html (http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html)
I just stumbled over something I said July 10th, 2009:
Now it’s a romanian who got paid to die on behalf of MJ. And Romania is home of vampire
castle and vampires are representing the non-dead and MJ wanted eternal live…
hmmm....
I skip vampire part, can't be agree or disagree, I don't know. To me it is not serious, but you never know. But, the fact that Michael was scared of dying is true, someone's autopsy out there-is fact, I can't believe that autopsy is fake because Michael bribed coroner chief, and the autopsy has inconsistency of body measure is also fact. So,Dimitry had fatal illness and Michael said I will pay your family if you "become" Michael and die as MJ. Simply makes sense.
I think that's possible. And in that case, if Murray is not a doctor but an actor and gave that man the fatal dose of propofol, there is no problem as far as I have heard. Someone said that in the US it is possible to assist in a suicide when someone is terminally ill, as long as you are not a doctor. I hope though someone will read this and tell me it's BS, because I think it's ridiculous. If someone is that ill and can't be saved, that person has the right to end his life in my opinion but with the help of someone who actually knows what he's doing, not someone who has no clue how to even stick a needle in your arm. (don't jump on me about this, this is my opinion and I live in a country where this is actually legal and accepted, as long as someone is still clear in the mind. A discussion about it would be useless since no one will change my opinion on this and it will be off-topic. Mentioning this just in case someone feels offended by this opinion.)
Yeah Souza, that's BS. It's illegal to assist in a suicide, med professional or not. Our country gets super weird about death, like it's the most horrible thing that could happen to a human of all, when I know there are several fates worse then death.
Why we try so hard to cling to life with tooth and nail when the body has failed and the mind had gone and the other side truly is a better place I will never understand. But that's seriously off topic.
I still say no body, no one died.
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Jack Kevorkian so, this doctor thinks from a point of view biased, according to what the read and seen in the media. Many people think that Michael was an addict