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Title: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: longlivetheking on January 06, 2011, 09:21:28 PM
It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/06/michael-jackson-estate-house-family-compound-hayvenhurst-katherine-jackson-alejandra-jackson-move-out/)
1/6/2011 6:45 PM PST by TMZ Staff  

Michael Jackson's estate is asking a judge to do what Katherine Jackson can't -- kick Alejandra Jackson and her kids out of the Hayvenhurst estate for good.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/06/0106-jackson-doc-launch.jpg) (http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0106_jackson.pdf)

TMZ has obtained legal docs in which the estate is asking the judge to remove Alejandra, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Genevieve, Donte and Randy Jr. from the estate ... on grounds they're not beneficiaries of Michael Jackson's will and have no claim to the property.

As TMZ first reported in November, Katherine Jackson told Alejandra and the kids -- fathered by both Jermaine and Randy -- not to return to the residence. Alejandra is refusing to move herself, her kids, and her stuff out ... so the estate has gone to court.

As TMZ also previously reported, the house is scheduled to be renovated -- but sources tell us Alejandra is holding the remodel hostage by refusing to leave.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on January 06, 2011, 09:28:13 PM
I don't know the story with Alejandra, but I have really mixed feelings about her.  Why can't she just get a job and her own place?  Actually she doesn't even have to get her own place since the estate is willing to put her up in the condo.  I say get out of there Alejandra so Michael can move back!
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: scorpionchik on January 06, 2011, 09:28:32 PM
Simply cheap bitch. Tied up 2 Jackson brothers having babies from each of them. IMMORAL bitch. She should have been kicked out long time ago. What an example for growing generation.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Guest on January 06, 2011, 09:30:02 PM
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Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: scorpionchik on January 06, 2011, 09:31:38 PM
It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
46 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  



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Michael Jackson's estate is asking a judge to do what Katherine Jackson can't -- kick Alejandra Jackson and her kids out of the Hayvenhurst estate for good.



TMZ has obtained legal docs in which the estate is asking the judge to remove Alejandra, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Genevieve, Donte and Randy Jr. from the estate ... on grounds they're not beneficiaries of Michael Jackson's will and have no claim to the property.

As TMZ first reported in November, Katherine Jackson told Alejandra and the kids -- fathered by both Jermaine and Randy -- not to return to the residence. Alejandra is refusing to move herself, her kids, and her stuff out ... so the estate has gone to court.

As TMZ also previously reported, the house is scheduled to be renovated -- but sources tell us Alejandra is holding the remodel hostage by refusing to leave.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: longlivetheking on January 06, 2011, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: "imred"
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do you know how to post articles and photos in a forum?  if so, please send me a PM with the instructions as I currently do not know how to post actual articles with photos in a forum - SORRY...
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: ladymjc on January 06, 2011, 09:33:19 PM
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5bGuHWYAy9cJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jermaine_Jackson+alejandra+jackson&cd=7&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us) On December 15, 1973, Jackson married Hazel Gordy, who is the daughter of Motown Records founder Berry Gordy.[6][7] The couple had three children together, Jermaine La Jaune "Jay" Jackson Jr., (born January 27, 1977), Autumn Jackson (born July 10, 1978), and Jaimy Jackson (born March 17, 1987).
While Jermaine was married to Hazel he was in a relationship with Margaret Maldonado and gotten both women pregnant. After his divorce from Gordy in 1988, Jackson started living with Margaret Maldonado. The couple had two children named Jeremy Maldonado Jackson, (born December 16, 1986) and Jourdynn Michael Jackson, (born January 5, 1989).
Shortly after separating from Maldonado, on March 18, 1995, in that same year Jermaine abruptly married his brothers ex-girlfriend Alejandra Genevieve Oaziaza who also had three children with his youngest brother Randy Jackson. Jermaine Jackson and, Alejandra Genevieve Oaziaza, had two sons, Jaafar Jeremiah Jackson (born July 25, 1996) and Jermajesty Jermaine Jackson (born October 7, 2000). In November 2004 Jackson separated,[8] then discovered that Oaziaza had not divorced her first husband Nicholas Ray, so their marriage was annulled[citation needed] Halima Rashid became Jackson's second wife.

That's a damn circus right there! I don't think Michael ignored them because of the "intervention" but because of all this. WOW. I had no idea. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. It brings a new train of thought. That will indeed prevent me from sleeping for 3 days ROFL  :lol:
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: ladymjc on January 06, 2011, 09:34:08 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Simply cheap bitch. Tied up 2 Jackson brothers having babies from each of them. IMMORAL bitch. She should have been kicked out long time ago. What an example for growing generation.


HIGH FIVE
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Guest on January 06, 2011, 09:35:52 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Simply cheap bitch. Tied up 2 Jackson brothers having babies from each of them. IMMORAL bitch. She should have been kicked out long time ago. What an example for growing generation.
No matter what you said about her she is family
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: ladymjc on January 06, 2011, 09:37:27 PM
Quote from: "imred"
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Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: ROFL on January 06, 2011, 09:39:19 PM
Ok Take a deep breath everyone

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: longlivetheking on January 06, 2011, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: "ladymjc"
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Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: ladymjc on January 06, 2011, 09:48:45 PM
Deep breath aaaaaaaaand...yeah she's part of the family because she finagled her way in. She was using them for money and went from one brother to another and is now exploiting their name and living off everything they earned as a family. She popped out four kids that have the Jackson last name and thinks she can do whatever she wants.  I'm sorry but I am a firm believer that the mother is the one who makes the decisions in the family and if Katherine wants her out then get her out. I'm sure she loves her grand babies but there has got to be something going on that we don't know about if she's wanting her out. Just sayin...
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 06, 2011, 09:55:53 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Simply cheap bitch. Tied up 2 Jackson brothers having babies from each of them. IMMORAL bitch. She should have been kicked out long time ago. What an example for growing generation.


you just took the words out of my mouth, what gull she has. It is not her house, nor Jermaine, nor Katherines. Encino belongs to Michael, and Michael makes his mom live there. So Alejandra should just go bye bye. If it were me, in Katherine's place I would call the cops and let them escort her and her kids out of there.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on January 06, 2011, 09:59:04 PM
After skimming through the court docs, I am wondering if Katherine is really the one who wants Alejandra and the kids removed.  Maybe it is really the estate trying to get them because they don't feel that Michael's money (ie. the money the estate pays to Katherine each month) should be supporting the other kids.  I agree with the estate, but do feel bad for Katherine if she really doesn't want them out.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Guest on January 06, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
Quote from: "ladymjc"
Quote from: "imred"
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Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Andrea on January 06, 2011, 10:05:57 PM
Uhhh...the title?!?  It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House - I know he owns it but you'd think they'd call it the Jackson family home or something with just Jackson and not Michael.

I think Michael wants Alejandra out.  She probably takes advantage of Katherine's sweet nature and Alejandra was given a chance to just leave but she refused.

Unless of course this is a hoax within a hoax type thing.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: giuliana78 on January 06, 2011, 10:07:13 PM
I read the documents and they always say "Joseph" and not "Joe", also I noticed they wrote "Michael Joseph Jackson I"...there's a controversy about that on the internet.what about Prince's name?I read it was Michael but MJ changed it..I mean could wrong names ensure that the documents are false? :?:  :?:
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Guest on January 06, 2011, 10:09:01 PM
Quote from: "longlivetheking"
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Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Guest on January 06, 2011, 10:10:53 PM
Quote from: "giuliana78"
I read the documents and they always say "Joseph" and not "Joe", also I noticed they wrote "Michael Joseph Jackson I"...there's a controversy about that on the internet.what about Prince's name?I read it was Michael but MJ changed it..I mean could wrong names ensure that the documents are false? :?:  :?:
the documents are bullshit. if Kathrine wanted her out, she would've been out
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: longlivetheking on January 06, 2011, 10:14:24 PM
So I was checking out the TMZ site and to follow Dr. CM's polka dotted tie - connecting the dots - it's almost as if most (not all) of the current TMZ headlines on the TMZ index webpage somehow relate to MJ???  Maybe it's just me, but here is a list of all the current headlines on the TMZ index webpage as of 11:02PM EST...

1. It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
2. T.I.'s Wife Gets Off -- Drug Case Dismissed
3. Paris Hilton Intruder Gets Freeway Labor
4. Life-and-Death Decision for Zsa Zsa
5. People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA
6. Lindsay Lohan Case Referred to District Attorney
7. California Governor: Who Cares If I Ruined Lives
8. Camille Grammer to Bravo: I'm Now Ready to Walk
9. TMZ Live -- Howard K. Stern Stops By!!!
10. Man Sues The Rock Over WWE Match from 2000
11. Jaime Pressly -- The DUI Mug Shot
12. Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
13. Howard K. Stern Walks in Anna Nicole Case
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: giuliana78 on January 06, 2011, 10:24:24 PM
Quote from: "Andrea"
Uhhh...the title?!?  It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House - I know he owns it but you'd think they'd call it the Jackson family home or something with just Jackson and not Michael.

I think Michael wants Alejandra out.  She probably takes advantage of Katherine's sweet nature and Alejandra was given a chance to just leave but she refused.

Unless of course this is a hoax within a hoax type thing.

you're right, ando also is it a coincidence that the word WAR is capitalized?
Does it mean it is Michael Jackson's WAR against media and lies..something like that?
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: ladymjc on January 06, 2011, 10:38:58 PM
Katherine is the beneficiary to the trust meaning she is entitled to the financial benefits of the property. The beneficiaries of a trust are the persons with equitable ownership of the trust assets, although legal title is held by the trustee.
A trustee is a legal term for a holder of property on behalf of a beneficiary. When administering the trust, a Trustee must set aside personal feelings and goals and instead do what is in the best interests of the trust beneficiaries - this is referred to as the Trustee's "fiduciary duty." A fiduciary duty is a legal or ethical relationship of confidence or trust regarding the management of money or property between two or more parties.
Certainly they discussed this together before the co-trustees decided that Alejandra and her children had to leave. It is NOT just up to the co-trustees to make this decision. From Wiki: A fiduciary (abbreviation fid) is expected to be extremely loyal to the person to whom he owes the duty (the "principal"): he must not put his personal interests before the duty, and must not profit from his position as a fiduciary, unless the principal consents. A fiduciary cannot have a conflict of interest. It has been said that fiduciaries must conduct themselves "at a level higher than that trodden by the crowd"[3] and that "[t]he distinguishing or overriding duty of a fiduciary is the obligation of undivided loyalty."[4]
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Andrea on January 06, 2011, 10:48:25 PM
Quote from: "giuliana78"
Quote from: "Andrea"
Uhhh...the title?!?  It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House - I know he owns it but you'd think they'd call it the Jackson family home or something with just Jackson and not Michael.

I think Michael wants Alejandra out.  She probably takes advantage of Katherine's sweet nature and Alejandra was given a chance to just leave but she refused.

Unless of course this is a hoax within a hoax type thing.

you're right, ando also is it a coincidence that the word WAR is capitalized?
Does it mean it is Michael Jackson's WAR against media and lies..something like that?

Good point - maybe the title should be: Michael Jackson - It's WAR.  And Alejandra could represent all those who have it coming to them...
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Tarja on January 07, 2011, 01:06:56 AM
Quote from: "imred"
can you please learn how to post the article, uk fans cant access tmz website because its blocked from their country

Michael Jackson's estate is asking a judge to do what Katherine Jackson can't -- kick Alejandra Jackson and her kids out of the Hayvenhurst estate for good.
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4120/0106jacksondoclaunch.jpg) (http://img513.imageshack.us/i/0106jacksondoclaunch.jpg/)


The doc    http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tm ... ackson.pdf (http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0106_jackson.pdf)

TMZ has obtained legal docs in which the estate is asking the judge to remove Alejandra, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Genevieve, Donte and Randy Jr. from the estate ... on grounds they're not beneficiaries of Michael Jackson's will and have no claim to the property.

As TMZ first reported in November, Katherine Jackson told Alejandra and the kids -- fathered by both Jermaine and Randy -- not to return to the residence. Alejandra is refusing to move herself, her kids, and her stuff out ... so the estate has gone to court.

As TMZ also previously reported, the house is scheduled to be renovated -- but sources tell us Alejandra is holding the remodel hostage by refusing to leave.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Tarja on January 07, 2011, 01:13:03 AM
I don't know what's  this about, but in my opinion the kids are not guilty of this mess. If Alejandra did what she did (honestly don't know much, not interested in these things) then she's the one to be left out, not the kids. After all, they are blood from Katherine's blood too, family. Alejandra is not blood family to the Jacksons. Don't know...
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on January 07, 2011, 02:21:13 AM
Quote from: "imred"
can you please learn how to post the article, uk fans cant access tmz website because its blocked from their country


UK fans can access TMZ  by using the following link in the TMZ thread its a sticky  http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... om/&anno=2 (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=af&tl=en&u=http://www.tmz.com/&anno=2)  I use it all the time it works great!!!!


Peace


 ;)  :D
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: LovelyLurker on January 07, 2011, 02:56:59 AM
OOOOHHHH,, not again... I have voiced my opinion about this over and over again, Jerkmaine and his children need to stop living off of the brother who had more talent in his little finger than they did.

Oh so sad for them....get on with it and get a job !!!! I have said this over and over for the last year and a half that I am soooooo sick of Jerkamaine and his family taking advantage. Good Grief!!!!

Get out, get a job and stop living off of your brother !!!!  JUST MY OPINION but it pisses me off
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Tarja on January 07, 2011, 02:42:40 PM
It seems like TMZ live will be about this.

Their title: TMZ Live: Jacko Family War, John Edwards Engaged?

Jacko....   Fuck you TMZ, you can go straight to hell. I'm sick of you playing games like  5 years stupid kids. Get a goddamn life and shut the F up. It's lame, low. Go to hell. I'm sick of you. Implied, my ass. They just act like assholes all the time. Nothing else but tabloid stupid fucking trash. I've never seen a person who deserves less respect than a tabloid junky like these are. I wouldn't wash my shoe if I stepped into a shit, but I would if I stepped on YOU, TMZ.

To the ppl here, sorry to talk like this, but I had to say it. And I hope they'll see it!!
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: bonita on January 07, 2011, 02:50:52 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Simply cheap bitch. Tied up 2 Jackson brothers having babies from each of them. IMMORAL bitch. She should have been kicked out long time ago. What an example for growing generation.

What does that say about Jermaine and Randy? It takes two to tango.
Whats sad its not the childrens fault. Beautiful kids btw.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on January 07, 2011, 03:17:32 PM
WAR it is then.  8-)

To bad and to sad.
Shouldn't of taken it for granted that there would always be a silver spoon.
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Ecclesiastes 7:1 (The Message)
Ecclesiastes 7
Don't Take Anything for Granted
1 A good reputation is better than a fat bank account. Your death date tells more than your birth date.

The Message (MSG)
I read this as Katherine can't do it NOT because she can't but, because she is not the one with the legal power to do it. The co-executives of Michael Joseph Jackson's estate; McClain and John Branca have the power to do it. I read the document and I see they even have lawyers representing them. I almost believed this was a real document because if people are feed up they are just done. I am wondering about the ending of the document when it says Prayer. Then it says the petitioner is praying for this to happen; is that normal? Do real documents say that at the end?

I suppose it doesn't hurt that Harvey is a lawyer and would know how to type these documents up and make em seem as real as possible, lol

Peace[/b][/color]
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: MissG on January 07, 2011, 03:21:59 PM
Well, the kids need to have a place to live untill they are 18 or 21, i am not sure of the legal rules in the USA regarding mayority of age.

Beside that, Alejandra, as the mother of the kids, would be entitled to live with her children and being supported by the father/s of the kids if I am on the right track according to the law in USA.

My question is, why is Michael taking the burden? Michael is the uncle of the kids, not the father. The responsability of providing roof and food for the children are Jermaines and Randys, and of course, Alejandra, but the law would be on her side until the kids are of mayority of age.

Randy and Jermaine must pay for those kids, not Michael  :evil:
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: dragonflylilies on January 07, 2011, 05:26:43 PM
Wasn't it discussed before about the reason they are living there is because she made an agreement with Randy and Jermaine.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  Katherine said she could live there so Randy and Jermaine did not have to pay child support.  I really think it is time for them to move on with their own lives.  Yes, Katherine is their Grandmother, but she is just that, a Grandmother.  She should not have to support all those people just  so her sons can get out of having to pay child support.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 07, 2011, 06:08:57 PM
Why dont they just wait until Alendraj leaves the house to go shopping, and then change the locks??  Simple.

She has no rights to the house.  She isnt owning or renting.   She has no rights at all to stay in that house.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: ladymjc on January 07, 2011, 06:20:32 PM
Quote from: "Tarja"
It seems like TMZ live will be about this.

Their title: TMZ Live: Jacko Family War, John Edwards Engaged?

Jacko....   Fuck you TMZ, you can go straight to hell. I'm sick of you playing games like  5 years stupid kids. Get a goddamn life and shut the F up. It's lame, low. Go to hell. I'm sick of you. Implied, my ass. They just act like assholes all the time. Nothing else but tabloid stupid fucking trash. I've never seen a person who deserves less respect than a tabloid junky like these are. I wouldn't wash my shoe if I stepped into a shit, but I would if I stepped on YOU, TMZ.

To the ppl here, sorry to talk like this, but I had to say it. And I hope they'll see it!!

Although I don't feel quite that strongly about TMZ this still made me laugh so hard I think I split my spleen  :lol:
They are a mixture of gossip and news. I take everything they write with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: paula-c on January 07, 2011, 06:27:02 PM
TMZ also I inform this:


Tell-All Book At the Root Of Jackson Family War7 minutes ago by TMZ Staf

Katherine Jackson's war with Jermaine/Randy's baby mama Alejandra Jackson is all about a tell-all
Alejandra is working on ... sources directly connected with the family and the dispute tell TMZ
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/01/07/0107-katherine-alejandra-getty-ex-credit.jpg)


We broke the story ... the Michael Jackson Estate has filed legal papers trying to evict Alejandra and her kids, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Donte, Randy Jr. and Genevieve from the family home in Encino, which was owned by MJ and now the Estate.

Now TMZ knows what has lead to this legal showdown.

Katherine and her lawyers asked Alejandra and her kids to leave months ago, following the stun gun incident with Jaffar. Alejandra lawyered up, and the Estate put an offer on the table -- the Estate would give her a condo, but in return she'd have to sign a confidentiality agreement and promise, among other things, not to write a tell-all book.

We've learned Alejandra refused to sign a confidentiality agreement and is in "active negotiations" for a tell-all.

When Alejandra was in Japan last month with her kids, everyone assumed she was going away for good and Katherine temporarily moved out to remodel the house.

But Alejandra came back, moved back in, refused to leave, stalling the remodel.

Sources say Katherine's lawyers called the cops last week to forcibly evict Alejandra, but the police said they couldn't do anything without an eviction order ... which is why the Estate is going to court.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: paula-c on January 07, 2011, 06:28:08 PM
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We've learned Alejandra refused to sign a confidentiality agreement and is in "active negotiations" for a tell-all.

Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 07, 2011, 06:34:35 PM
You know...

If Michael really has died and all this is going on....  

I fear for Katherine.  She is an 80 year old woman.  How much stress and heartache can she take???
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: ladymjc on January 07, 2011, 06:49:18 PM
First of all I think it is damn disrespectful to Katherine that TMZ "we broke the story" is plastering their business all over the internet. Secondly, since it has been released I will comment because I'm nosy. Third, if Alejandra is living in Michael's house but he is deceased and appointed Katherine the beneficiary I think if she said to leave than Alejandra needs to leave.   The trustees of the property have legal rights so if they are taking this to court then it would have to go through Katherine as well.  My biggest question is why does Alejandra think she can live there??

Where are Jermaine and Randy and why aren't they taking care of their kids?  They shared the same damn woman for crying out loud but neither of the two want to take custody of their children, or help the mother? Not that I feel sorry for her as I feel she is just using them all for money. CPS should come and take those kids away from the greedy bitch.
But why and HOW are they ok with it resting on the shoulders of their mother and "deceased" brother?  Give me a break. She's threatening them with a "tell all" book. Her concerns are for herself and that is apparent.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: mjfansince4 on January 07, 2011, 06:55:54 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Why dont they just wait until Alendraj leaves the house to go shopping, and then change the locks??  Simple.

She has no rights to the house.  She isnt owning or renting.   She has no rights at all to stay in that house.

Its not that easy. I actually have experience with something like this.  According to the law (at least in california), a person living in a house (whether as a guest, squatter or a renter paying under the table) for longer than 6 months I believe (it might be a year, but if I remember correctly it's 6 months) you have to take legal action to get them out. The police cannot escort or kick them out of the house, even if they don't have any right to the home. It takes a court's eviction to get the person out.


out of all of this, I just feel bad for the kids. The mother should have taken up on katherine's offer. She didn't even have to do that, but we all know what kind of wonderful person she is. Kids should not have to suffer at the hand of stupid and selfish adults.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: DancingTheDream on January 07, 2011, 06:57:30 PM
Quote from: "ladymjc"
First of all I think it is damn disrespectful to Katherine that TMZ "we broke the story" is plastering their business all over the internet. Secondly, since it has been released I will comment because I'm nosy. Third, if Alejandra is living in Michael's house but he is deceased and appointed Katherine the beneficiary I think if she said to leave than Alejandra needs to leave.   The trustees of the property have legal rights so if they are taking this to court then it would have to go through Katherine as well.  My biggest question is why does Alejandra think she can live there??

Where are Jermaine and Randy and why aren't they taking care of their kids?  They shared the same damn woman for crying out loud but neither of the two want to take custody of their children, or help the mother? Not that I feel sorry for her as I feel she is just using them all for money. CPS should come and take those kids away from the greedy bitch.
But why and HOW are they ok with it resting on the shoulders of their mother and "deceased" brother?  Give me a break. She's threatening them with a "tell all" book. Her concerns are for herself and that is apparent.

In my opinion it is Jermaine who is the one who needs to man up and take control of this.

Yes, they are Randys children too...  but Jermaine is the one who did the dirty act and went with this woman after she had already had children with Randy.
I did read that Randy was, rightly so, devastated by this and i can understand why this woman would be very hard for him to deal with now.

  In my mind, it is Jermaine who has created this situation.  He is the one who needs to sort it out.   Michael has financially looked after these children since the beginning.  Time for the ones who created the situation to take on the responsibility.

Katherine doesnt need this stress and worry.

I really hope Jermaine can look at himself and realise that he is the one who is responsible for this and take control.   So far, i see him doing nothing.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: looking4truth on January 07, 2011, 07:07:33 PM
My response is really simple: I'm not there so I don't know what's really going on. I just pray for peace in the home.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on January 07, 2011, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: "dragonflylilies"
Wasn't it discussed before about the reason they are living there is because she made an agreement with Randy and Jermaine.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  Katherine said she could live there so Randy and Jermaine did not have to pay child support.  I really think it is time for them to move on with their own lives.  Yes, Katherine is their Grandmother, but she is just that, a Grandmother.  She should not have to support all those people just  so her sons can get out of having to pay child support.


I thought this too, but what I don't understand is why and how Katherine had the legal right to make that agreement with Alejandra in the first place since Michael is the property owner.  Technically it should all have been handled between Alejandra and Randy and Jermaine; Katherine shouldn't have even been involved in any agreement to begin with.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on January 07, 2011, 07:17:45 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Why dont they just wait until Alendraj leaves the house to go shopping, and then change the locks??  Simple.

She has no rights to the house.  She isnt owning or renting.   She has no rights at all to stay in that house.


I am assuming that Alejandra and her kids have used the Encino address on legal docs such as licenses, school records, passport applications, etc., so technically it is there address.  And since their official docs list that as their residence, I believe this is why the estate has to file a formal eviction notice.  As crazy as it may sound, if that is their documented address, Katherine actually doesn't have the legal right to throw them out.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on January 07, 2011, 07:19:57 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
You know...

If Michael really has died and all this is going on....  

I fear for Katherine.  She is an 80 year old woman.  How much stress and heartache can she take???


I agree and really hope she can hang on until Prince is at least 18 so he can petition for custody of the other 2 kids.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Andrea on January 07, 2011, 07:21:23 PM
Why do I think that none of this is actually happening?  This entire hoax is drama filled so this whole story fits in perfectly, a little side story to the main event.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Lovely One on January 07, 2011, 07:23:33 PM
Quote from: "ladymjc"
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Simply cheap bitch. Tied up 2 Jackson brothers having babies from each of them. IMMORAL bitch. She should have been kicked out long time ago. What an example for growing generation.


HIGH FIVE

AGREED!!! ;)
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: PeaceLoveHappiness on January 07, 2011, 07:24:23 PM
The thing that I don't understand is why the estate hasn't drawn up separate eviction papers for the 3 adult kids (Genevieve, Randy Jr. and Donte).  Since they are all 18 or older, I don't understand why they are lumped in with the other 2 minor children.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 07, 2011, 07:38:31 PM
It is the estate that evicting them. My question are these:
Is it really what Katherine wants?
Is it what Michael wants?

Alejandra has been living at the Encino home for many years, her children most, if not their entire lives. Michael never tried to remove them in the past nor did Katherine (unless someone on the forum knows differently). So what has changed over the last 18 months about this situation for Katherine and/or Michael or is this all the executor's doing and not within Michael's control?
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: dragonflylilies on January 07, 2011, 09:14:37 PM
I dont know who wants this, but my goodness she has a couple of football teams living in that house(meaning lots of people).  Maybe she wants alittle piece and quiet.  I know I would.
Title: Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on January 07, 2011, 09:53:59 PM
WAR? When I first saw this headline I thought it meant war between Michael Jackson's house of fans:the  believers vs. non-believers or the Michael Jackson House (insiders, camp, allies),  has declared war on all the haters: media, criminals, Hollywood, gov't., etc.    I guess I was wrong  ;)  
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