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Title: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: pillekelille on January 09, 2011, 03:18:38 AM
Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/09/conrad-murray-balloon-child-gift-santa-monica-michael-jackson-manslaughter-preliminary-hearing/)
1/9/2011 1:00 AM PST by TMZ Staff  

Dr. Conrad Murray has a bit of a PR problem these days -- and since people don't just let you walk up and kiss their baby anymore, he did the next best thing ... he bought a little girl a balloon.

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/murreytmz19.jpg) (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=b961877d-e7af-460f-9197-dd8ae08acbeb)

A TMZ photog was out in Santa Monica on his night off when he caught a glimpse of Murray on the Third Street Promenade. Murray was walking along when he spotted the cute kid and the balloon animal practitioner ... and made his way over.

Murray ponied up the few bucks for the little girl's balloon and one for himself -- it looked like he took the SpongeBob one.

If things don't go Murray's way next week, he may want to move into a pineapple under the sea.

See also
Conrad Murray's Girlfriend -- Sweetest Taboo
People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray
Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot

Link: http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/09/conrad-mu ... y-hearing/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/09/conrad-murray-balloon-child-gift-santa-monica-michael-jackson-manslaughter-preliminary-hearing/)     :D  :D
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 09, 2011, 03:39:33 AM
OMG and who happens to be there, TMZ yet again...well done guys well done.Also it didn't look like he bought the kid a balloon...didn't he just give a tip to the balloon guy?

Edit: When the guy said it was really nice of you CM just looked at him and put his hands up. :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Tarja on January 09, 2011, 03:43:31 AM
I really am not able to understand how he can walk on the streets and no single person turns his head at least like "look, it's Murray!". No matter believer or not. Just no one
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: puremind on January 09, 2011, 03:50:46 AM
MJhasSpoken,
do you think TMZ is on Michael's side in this hoax?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 09, 2011, 03:57:14 AM
Quote from: "puremind"
MJhasSpoken,
do you think TMZ is on Michael's side in this hoax?

Edit: Sorry I didn't see that, he did buy a balloon for that kid.
@puremind yeah I do, from what I've seen so far. :)

I also thought of MJ when I read this story...the part about; winning them over one at a time (clearing MJ's name) and also about the part; since people don't just let you walk up and kiss their baby anymore (MJ after he wrongly accused of molestation people would think twice about their kids being around him).
I know it's a small price to pay for a balloon but he had not paid for child support for his own kid but he could pay for a balloon for another child.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: puremind on January 09, 2011, 04:02:00 AM
great, because i want to understand this from you who share this opinion.
what is up with:

Jacko's Mom Arrives at Hospital

6/25/2009 3:30 PM PDT by TMZ Staff  


Jacko's Kids Go on the Defense

10/8/2009 10:11 AM PDT by TMZ Staff  

TMZ Live: Jacko Family War, John Edwards Engaged?

Via: TMZ.com Posted: 2011-01-07

and so on...

Can they be on Michael's side, can we trust their good intentions or clues?

Because I want to, this is why i want you to help me...
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Tarja on January 09, 2011, 04:12:08 AM
can you please edit the fucking jacko there? I don't know who's that jacko but we are here discussing about Michael Jackson
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: MagentaLOVES on January 09, 2011, 04:15:05 AM
BALLOON BOY HOAX!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 09, 2011, 04:16:18 AM
Quote from: "puremind"
great, because i want to understand this from you who share this opinion.
what is up with:

Jacko's Mom Arrives at Hospital

6/25/2009 3:30 PM PDT by TMZ Staff  


Jacko's Kids Go on the Defense

10/8/2009 10:11 AM PDT by TMZ Staff  

TMZ Live: Jacko Family War, John Edwards Engaged?

Via: TMZ.com Posted: 2011-01-07

and so on...

Can they be on Michael's side, can we trust their good intentions or clues?

Because I want to, this is why i want you to help me...

Well I think that MJ is definitely using TMZ as a source for clues...they were also the ones that first called his death 6 min before it was announced...also I think that Harvey is the only one who knows and of course he doesn't write all the articles (so it could of been another TMZ staff member who doesn't know about the hoax) or maybe MJ is doing this to see what kind of reaction it can provoke out of people who aren't fans because one of the things we have seen throughout this hoax is that MJ wants his name cleared and so does his family...so he could use this to see people's reactions towards him...hope that helped.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: puremind on January 09, 2011, 04:26:19 AM
still bothers...but makes sense, could be.
yes, you did help, thanks :)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 09, 2011, 04:29:16 AM
Quote from: "Tarja"
can you please edit the fucking jacko there? I don't know who's that jacko but we are here discussing about Michael Jackson
Can you stop using foul language in your posts please. It is very offensive and there is no need for it.

Jacko is the title of the article that TMZ wrote...chill out!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 09, 2011, 04:44:21 AM
Here is the picture for those that cannot view TMZ

Quote
A TMZ photog was out in Santa Monica on his night off when he caught a glimpse of Murray on the Third Street Promenade.

Right...like the photog was just "in the right spot at the right time".  We also have our overweight Murray again.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: puremind on January 09, 2011, 04:45:56 AM
That's not Murray from the trial.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 09, 2011, 04:49:30 AM
Full of hot air...Murray or the balloon?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: newoldfan on January 09, 2011, 04:52:33 AM
Winning 'em Over One at a Time = WOOT!!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 09, 2011, 05:08:31 AM
Quote from: "puremind"
That's not Murray from the trial.

Here are a couple of different shots. Also - doesn't it sound like the photog is calling him Carter instead of Conrad?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: ForstAMoon on January 09, 2011, 05:16:28 AM
I wonder if Murray introduced himself to the balloon guy before taking one of the balloons: Hello, you may know me, I am Michael Jackson doctor :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Balloon boy hoax everyone :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 09, 2011, 05:36:50 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "puremind"
That's not Murray from the trial.

Here are a couple of different shots. Also - doesn't it sound like the photog is calling him Carter instead of Conrad?


That's what I was thinking too.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Grace on January 09, 2011, 06:22:08 AM
Quote from: "MagentaLOVES"
BALLOON BOY HOAX!

+

Quote
Sea pineapples are known for both their peculiar appearance, described by journalist Nick Tosches as "something that could exist only in a purely hallucinatory eco-system"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_pineapple

Harvey is too funny these days.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 09, 2011, 07:49:58 AM
I think I'll book a trip to Santa Monica and see if I walk into the doc.

hoax hoax hoax hoax hoax hoax.... when will people finally notice??
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: RK on January 09, 2011, 09:18:16 AM
Quote from: "MJhasSpoken"
Full of hot air...Murray or the balloon?
Hillarious. TMZ's Murray articles have had me laughing all week. But then again, he's a "doctor" and he would know that laughter is the best medicine of all.  :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: paula-c on January 09, 2011, 09:48:50 AM
All these photos and videos the should have done before June 25, there is no other explanation
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 09, 2011, 09:53:26 AM
Quote from: "paula-c"
All these photos and videos the should have done before June 25, there is no other explanation
:shock:  good thought...might be....because the people treat him like a nice normal citizen ....if i'  would see him on the streets i'd shout some things to him  :lol:  :lol:
Wasn't the pink panther song in the background? :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: PureLove on January 09, 2011, 10:02:09 AM
Connie is a NICE guy. He helps everyone. Saves lives in the plane, buys kids balloons :) But he bought a SpongeBob SquarePants balloon. And I want you guys to read this article ;) Nice clue :D  :lol:

Tom Kenny, the voice of Spongebob Squarepants dies again!

Spongebob Squarepants is one of our all time favorite cartoon series and today every single soul in America is searching about it because another nasty internet hoax tried to kill Tom Kenny, the voice of Spongebob Squarepants, once again last night on Friday 29th October, 2010.

At present, the term ‘Tom Kenny – The Voice of Spongebob Squarepants Died’ is reportedly topping the top Google and Yahoo trends as millions of fans have continuously been coming this way since morning just to discover whether Tom Kenny is dead or alive.

Well, for every fan’s huge relief, no, Tom Kenny is not dead. The 48-year-old voice actor/comedian is alive and doing well along with his wife and two kids, who, at present, most likely be wondering at Tom Kenny’s fate that tricked the angel of death not once but twice!

And if you guys are wondering that why someone would spread such hoaxes?

The answerer is very simple i.e. it’s quite a cheap way to gather bulks of internet traffics within no time and apparently the most enjoyable hobby for all those who have left with nothing to do in their lives except spreading malicious news about all those who are much in demand.

In past the internet rumor factories have successfully targeted Britney Spears, Tom Cruise, Justin Bieber and now it seems that their new favorite subject is Tom Kenny, who has been targeted earlier this year as well.

So take my advice and avoid believing in such matters, until and unless a renowned source approves it.

http://www.05news.com/tom-kenny-the-voice-of-spongebob-squarepants-dies-again-76690/
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: _Anna_ on January 09, 2011, 11:09:49 AM
Even if strange, when the article with Murray's new yellow-blue bow tie appeared and when I looked at the bow tie on zoom my first reaction was "that looks like spongebob....what the hell" but I really don't know if that is the idea. That was my first reaction at the bow tie. I thought it had no logic and it was just a ridiculous bow tie though.

And now again spongebob, makes me rethink about my reaction at the bow tie. I don't know what's with all this, if it has a connection with the voice of spongebob and the false death.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: ForTheTruth on January 09, 2011, 01:29:41 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "paula-c"
All these photos and videos the should have done before June 25, there is no other explanation
:shock:  good thought...might be....because the people treat him like a nice normal citizen ....if i'  would see him on the streets i'd shout some things to him  :lol:  :lol:
Wasn't the pink panther song in the background? :lol:

Almost like a movie  :lol:  8-) .

Revenge of the Pink Panther (1978)
 
To prove that he still is strong and powerful, Philippe Douvier decides to kill Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau. Once Clouseau's death has been announced, the former Chief Inspector, Charles Dreyfus, feels much, much better and is released from the mental hospital.Jacques Clouseau tries to take advantage of his "death" and goes under cover with Cato to find out who tried to assassinate him.

Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau is dead. At least that is what the world (and Charles Dreyfus) believe when a dead body is discovered in Clouseau's car after being shot off the road. Naturally, Jacques Clouseau knows differently, and taking advantage of not being alive, sets out to discover why an attempt was made on his life. But how will Dreyfus react when he finds out that his dream is really a nightmare?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078163/plotsummary (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078163/plotsummary)
(http://steelturman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/14/peter_sellers_inspector_clouseau_pi.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 09, 2011, 01:36:44 PM
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Quote from: "paula-c"
All these photos and videos the should have done before June 25, there is no other explanation
:shock:  good thought...might be....because the people treat him like a nice normal citizen ....if i'  would see him on the streets i'd shout some things to him  :lol:  :lol:
Wasn't the pink panther song in the background? :lol:

Almost like a movie  :lol:  8-) .

Revenge of the Pink Panther (1978)
 
To prove that he still is strong and powerful, Philippe Douvier decides to kill Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau. Once Clouseau's death has been announced, the former Chief Inspector, Charles Dreyfus, feels much, much better and is released from the mental hospital.Jacques Clouseau tries to take advantage of his "death" and goes under cover with Cato to find out who tried to assassinate him.

Chief Inspector Jacques Clouseau is dead. At least that is what the world (and Charles Dreyfus) believe when a dead body is discovered in Clouseau's car after being shot off the road. Naturally, Jacques Clouseau knows differently, and taking advantage of not being alive, sets out to discover why an attempt was made on his life. But how will Dreyfus react when he finds out that his dream is really a nightmare?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078163/plotsummary (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078163/plotsummary)
(http://steelturman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/14/peter_sellers_inspector_clouseau_pi.jpg)
:D
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 09, 2011, 03:59:02 PM
Seems like Mike is trying to make us laugh in between all the prelim 'serious' stuff. Get the pressure off a little.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: paula-c on January 09, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
Now there are photos of Murray taken by a fan and not by TMZ, the credits are Sinderella


(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs001.snc6/165148_179002665467344_100000728352948_453786_6117524_n.jpg)




http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpb ... 22#p293122 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17015&p=293122#p293122)
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpb ... &start=375 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17015&start=375)

(http://flashcity.com/wp-content/uploads/FC_EXC_Dr-Conrad-Murray-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on January 09, 2011, 04:57:52 PM
Quote from: "pillekelille"
Murray ponied up the few bucks for the little girl's balloon and one for himself -- it looked like he took the SpongeBob one.

If things don't go Murray's way next week, he may want to move into a pineapple under the sea.

The Pineapple
Pineapple as Hospitality Symbol
In larger, well-to-do homes, the dining room doors were kept closed to heighten visitors' suspense about the table being readied on the other side. At the appointed moment, and with the maximum amount of pomp and drama, the doors were flung open to reveal the evening's main event. Visitors confronted with pineapple-topped food displays felt particularly honored by a hostess who obviously spared no expense to ensure her guests' dining pleasure

In this manner, the fruit which was the visual keystone of the feast naturally came to symbolize the high spirits of the social events themselves; the image of the pineapple coming to express the sense of welcome, good cheer, human warmth and family affection inherent to such gracious home gatherings.

This was how the pineapple, came to symbolize welcoming friendship, good cheer, human warmth and the family affection that was inherent to such gatherings. Pineapples are still a treasured housewarming gift for friends and family.

Jesus and Hospitality
‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home.' ~ Matthew 25:34-35

These are the words of Jesus and they suggest that one of the first signs of faith, in a person, is the practice of hospitality. Here Jesus mentions food, drink and a welcome to the table. When practiced in life assures us of a welcome at his future banquet.
http://lutseblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/come-you-who-are-blessed-by-my-father.html

Pineapple Continued
The Colonial Pineapple Trade
Ships brought in preserved pineapples from Caribbean islands as expensive sweetmeats--pineapple chunks candied, glazed and packed in sugar. The actual whole fruit was even more costly and difficult to obtain. Wooden ship travel in the tropics was hot, humid and slow, often rotting pineapple cargoes before they could be landed. Only the speediest ships and most fortuitous weather conditions could deliver ripe, wholesome pineapples to the confectionery shops of cities such as Boston, Philadelphia, Annapolis and Williamsburg.

A hostesses' ability to have a pineapple for an important dining event said as much about her rank as it did about her resourcefulness, given that the street trade in available fresh pineapples could be as brisk as it was bitchy. So sought after were the prickly fruits that colonial confectioners sometimes rented them to households by the day. Later, the same fruit was sold to other, more affluent clients who actually ate it. As you might imagine, hostesses would have gone to great lengths to conceal the fact that the pineapple that was the visual apogee of their table display and a central topic of their guests' conversation was only rented.

Rare Pineapple: King of Colonial Fruits
While fruits in general--fresh, dried, candied and jellied--were the major attractions of the community's appetite and dining practices, the pineapple was the true celebrity. Its rarity, expense, reputation and striking visual attractiveness made it the ultimate exotic fruit. It was the pineapple that came to literally crown the most important feasts: often held aloft on special pedestals as the pinnacle of the table's central food mound.

Pineapple: Treat of Kings
In such a gastronomic milieu, reports and later samples food of the New World's pineapple--whose ripe yellow pulp literally exploded natural sweetness when chewed--made the fruit an item of celebrity and curiosity for royal gourmet and horticulturist alike. Despite dogged efforts by European gardeners, it was nearly two centuries before they were able to perfect a hothouse method for growing a pineapple plant. Thus, into the 1600s, the pineapple remained so uncommon and coveted a commodity that King Charles II of England posed for an official portrait in an act then symbolic of royal privilege -- receiving a pineapple as a gift.
http://www.levins.com/pineapple.html

(http://www.victorianamagazine.com/victorianstyle/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/BritishSchool.jpg)
Charles II Receiving a Pineapple. British School, c. 1675. © The Royal Collection

Charles II
Charles II (29 May 1630 OS – 6 February 1685 OS) was monarch of the three kingdoms of England, Scotland, and Ireland.

Charles II's father King Charles I was executed at Whitehall on 30 January 1649, at the climax of the English Civil War. England entered the period known to history as the English Interregnum or the English Commonwealth and the country was a de facto republic, led by Oliver Cromwell. Cromwell defeated Charles at the Battle of Worcester on 3 September 1651, and Charles fled to mainland Europe. Cromwell became virtual dictator of England, Scotland and Ireland. Charles spent the next nine years in exile in France, the United Provinces and the Spanish Netherlands.

A political crisis that followed the death of Cromwell in 1658 resulted in the restoration of the monarchy, and Charles was invited to return to Britain. On 29 May 1660, his 30th birthday, he was received in London to public acclaim. After 1660, all legal documents were dated as if Charles had succeeded his father as king in 1649.

Charles was popularly known as the Merrie Monarch, in reference to both the liveliness and hedonism of his court and the general relief at the return to normality after over a decade of rule by Oliver Cromwell and the Puritans. Charles's wife, Catherine of Braganza, bore no children, but Charles acknowledged at least 12 illegitimate children by various mistresses As illegitimate children were excluded from the succession, he was succeeded by his brother James.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_England

The reason I have included the information about Charles II is because with his death and then his brother's death, the British Royal bloodline changed to another branch because these two had no legitimate heirs (only illegitimate children). Their line was the "Stuart" bloodline and for taking the throne purposes it had ended. The branch that took the throne is what Elizabeth II can trace her lineage through and they are not descended from The House of Stuart.

The interesting thing though is that Diana is a descendant of Charles II (The House of Stuart) and William is therefore a high-bred of these two royal bloodlines. I have previously posted about the Coat of Arms on the gates of Neverland etc so I thought that this was quite interesting since the "Pineapple" led me there.  :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_England

(Just a note: The King of Ethiopia Haile Selassie I, which is my post on Michael and religious symbols and the possible Royalty connection:
The heir to a dynasty that traced its origins to the 13th century, and from there by tradition back to King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, Haile Selassie is a defining figure in both Ethiopian and African history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haile_Selassie_I_of_Ethiopia )
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: anewfan on January 09, 2011, 05:09:24 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
Now there are photos of Murray taken by a fan and not by TMZ, the credits are Sinderella


(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs001.snc6/165148_179002665467344_100000728352948_453786_6117524_n.jpg)




viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17015&p=293122#p293122 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17015&p=293122#p293122)
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17015&start=375 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17015&start=375)

(http://flashcity.com/wp-content/uploads/FC_EXC_Dr-Conrad-Murray-2.jpg)


Well that scratches the theory that all the videos and pictures were taken before June 25, 2009. I don't get how he can be in public unnoticed by most. Thanks for sharing those. (and thanks to Sinderella)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 09, 2011, 05:16:00 PM
How do we know this fan tells the truth? Because if I ran into Murray, I would at least try to have a chat with him.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: cin_pyt on January 09, 2011, 06:42:04 PM
he is doing good deeds he's winning em over haha. No one cared about the good Mike did only on the bad, so it's like TMZ is creating sympathy for connie. You see he "killed" MJ but look he is good he buys children balloons ugh yup. How can u hate this man that does all this good, saves peeps lives? Come on this is a hoax no doubt about it, Michael the genius is the director he decides where Murray goes lol!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: scorpionchik on January 09, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I think I'll book a trip to Santa Monica and see if I walk into the doc.

hoax hoax hoax hoax hoax hoax.... when will people finally notice??


I envy your unhesitating confidence in hoax. Seriously. Sometimes my 100% fluctuates, then I come here or recall different clues & calm down.
Right, this man looks too calm and free to be murder of the high star. Sometimes I catch his pride look,  just like if he did something special for.........Michael..... helping to escape.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: newoldfan on January 09, 2011, 07:44:55 PM
Quote from: "paula-c"
All these photos and videos the should have done before June 25, there is no other explanation

Well, the TMZ article doesn't actually state when the photo was supposedly taken. We are just assuming that it is current. Could it be that we have fallen prey to the power of suggestion and, if so, doesn't this demonstrate again how easy it is for the media to manipulate us?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: InternetResearcher on January 09, 2011, 07:46:29 PM
Something is just not right...seeing all these photos of Conrad "posing"...either he is one most coldest people on earth or this is just part of the hoax.  Just why is he posing...is there some hidden message that we are not seeing.  He appears to not have a care in a world despite being tried for one the most famous musician's "death" of all time.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: puremind on January 09, 2011, 08:16:58 PM
I don't trust tabloids, i don't trust TMZ, i don't trust their intentions, i don't trust their clues.
Michael Jackson said don't believe everything you see and burn the tabloids.
So personally  i don't buy anything TMZ is trying to induce in my mind.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: mrtoki on January 09, 2011, 08:32:40 PM
ok i watch the video what i do really think that really stands out is  THE OLD MAN ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN!!! HE STEPS INTO CAMERA AND JUST STANDS THER?? IS IT MR.MGOO???
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Tarja on January 10, 2011, 04:32:31 AM
why I don't find these photos fan-made? For me they don't look like they were taken by a fan. Where were they found?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 10, 2011, 04:55:53 AM
I wonder where Murray goes to after the prelim everyday...maybe someone should follow him and see if he leads us straight to MJ  :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 10, 2011, 01:39:01 PM
The Pink Panther still bothers me...shame on me I did not see the movie....i think now it is the time
you might think of  me as  crazy but i hear Michael's voice singing in the background but very low quality.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 10, 2011, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: "pillekelille"
Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/09/conrad-murray-balloon-child-gift-santa-monica-michael-jackson-manslaughter-preliminary-hearing/)
1/9/2011 1:00 AM PST by TMZ Staff  

Dr. Conrad Murray has a bit of a PR problem these days -- and since people don't just let you walk up and kiss their baby anymore, he did the next best thing ... he bought a little girl a balloon.

(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/murreytmz19.jpg) (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=b961877d-e7af-460f-9197-dd8ae08acbeb)

A TMZ photog was out in Santa Monica on his night off when he caught a glimpse of Murray on the Third Street Promenade. Murray was walking along when he spotted the cute kid and the balloon animal practitioner ... and made his way over.

Murray ponied up the few bucks for the little girl's balloon and one for himself -- it looked like he took the SpongeBob one.

If things don't go Murray's way next week, he may want to move into a pineapple under the sea.

See also
Conrad Murray's Girlfriend -- Sweetest Taboo
People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray
Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot

Link: http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/09/conrad-mu ... y-hearing/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/01/09/conrad-murray-balloon-child-gift-santa-monica-michael-jackson-manslaughter-preliminary-hearing/)     :D  :D


did you see the video  of Murray saying he love MJ mom very much? Watch it this is too  much
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 10, 2011, 06:19:32 PM
Aw, how sweet of him! :)
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 11, 2011, 12:01:34 AM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Aw, how sweet of him! :)

@MJFAN7 Very sweet indeed. Why would Murray say he loves Mj's mom, unless he is MJ in disguise sending a message to his mom saying he loves her. I am so tired, I do not know what I am saying right now. Blessings.
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: ~Souza~ on January 11, 2011, 09:36:51 AM
LOL, or Mike read that we discussed the possibility that he is Murray in disguise (only once or twice imo) and he's stirring it up a bit.

Are you having fun Mike?
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Image on January 11, 2011, 10:07:30 AM
It's true that many words and ways of the doctor remind  Michael;  if he himself were in disguise, maybe he should have the stilts … who knows maybe working with the circus  he has learned to use them well…if I’m not wrong, Michael has invented also special shoes for the anti-gravity illusion...
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 11, 2011, 01:22:37 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
LOL, or Mike read that we discussed the possibility that he is Murray in disguise (only once or twice imo) and he's stirring it up a bit.

Are you having fun Mike?

That came to my mind, too. :lol: :D
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 11, 2011, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
LOL, or Mike read that we discussed the possibility that he is Murray in disguise (only once or twice imo) and he's stirring it up a bit.

Are you having fun Mike?

That came to my mind, too. :lol: :D
I don't think it's Michael  in disguise..BUT if I was there i would throw at him some harmless eggs or tomatoes...;))) that's the time when I want to see his true face!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: ForTheTruth on January 11, 2011, 02:53:45 PM
I watched "Revenge of the Pink Panther Panther" and it was hilarious  :lol: :D !  

The opening scene begins with Philippe Douvier (business man/drug trade) meeting a member from the New York Mafia. Philippe is trying to prove that he is capable to partner up with a drug business. The American Mafia doesn't think Philippe is the right man for the job. So Philippe and his right wing man, Algo, decide to come up with a plan to have Clouseau (Cheif Invesitgator) murdered. Philippe thinks that will be enough proof to the American Mafia that he will be able to control the drug business. Also because Clouseau is a threat to there underground business.

Later on in the movie Philippe calls Clouseau and pretends to be an informant. He tell's him where a criminal (Claude Rousseau) is located, who is involved in the drug trade. Clouseau drives to the location, but Claude ends up robbing Clouseau. His car and clothes get stolen at gunpoint by the criminal. Claude drives into the trap and is killed by Philippe's men. Thats when Clouseau's faked death begins  :).


Here are a few quotes from the movie that i thought were umm... :shock:

First scene
Philippe Douvier - "Tell him the 25th, as agreed. I'll send him a sign. A little demonstration, to prove that i'm still strong." (6/25/09?)

Buisness Meeting
Philippe Douvier - "I sent them a word, that i will give them a demonstration, a sign. To show that I am still in control. That France is still a viable country."

Algo - "Who is the most impotant man in France today?" (well known celebrity?)
Philippe- "For our purpose?"
Algo - "A man New York knows even better than the president of France?A man in which our entire world organization is familiar with? and would like nothing better than to see him out of the way? Who has given us nothing but trouble for the past ten tears? Who has survived 16 assasination attempts? Including two by his own boss? You want to impress New York? eliminate Clouseau."

One of Clouseau's disguises in the movie made me think of hatman. Well a shorter version. :P
[youtube:vp3aa3fw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD80iRZLYe0[/youtube:vp3aa3fw]

Clouseau decides to show up at his own funeral and burial.  :lol:
[youtube:vp3aa3fw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_3iYSRypM[/youtube:vp3aa3fw]

Towards the end of the movie Clouseau catches the bad guys. Fireworks go off and the next day it is revealed to the world that he is not dead but alive :) .
[youtube:vp3aa3fw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4950NwzqdE[/youtube:vp3aa3fw]
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on January 11, 2011, 03:45:33 PM
Quote from: "ForTheTruth"
I watched "Revenge of the Pink Panther Panther" and it was hilarious  :lol: :D !  

The opening scene begins with Philippe Douvier (business man/drug trade) meeting a member from the New York Mafia. Philippe is trying to prove that he is capable to partner up with a drug business. The American Mafia doesn't think Philippe is the right man for the job. So Philippe and his right wing man, Algo, decide to come up with a plan to have Clouseau (Cheif Invesitgator) murdered. Philippe thinks that will be enough proof to the American Mafia that he will be able to control the drug business. Also because Clouseau is a threat to there underground business.

Later on in the movie Philippe calls Clouseau and pretends to be an informant. He tell's him where a criminal (Claude Rousseau) is located, who is involved in the drug trade. Clouseau drives to the location, but Claude ends up robbing Clouseau. His car and clothes get stolen at gunpoint by the criminal. Claude drives into the trap and is killed by Philippe's men. Thats when Clouseau's faked death begins  :).


Here are a few quotes from the movie that i thought were umm... :shock:

First scene
Philippe Douvier - "Tell him the 25th, as agreed. I'll send him a sign. A little demonstration, to prove that i'm still strong." (6/25/09?)

Buisness Meeting
Philippe Douvier - "I sent them a word, that i will give them a demonstration, a sign. To show that I am still in control. That France is still a viable country."

Algo - "Who is the most impotant man in France today?" (well known celebrity?)
Philippe- "For our purpose?"
Algo - "A man New York knows even better than the president of France?A man in which our entire world organization is familiar with? and would like nothing better than to see him out of the way? Who has given us nothing but trouble for the past ten tears? Who has survived 16 assasination attempts? Including two by his own boss? You want to impress New York? eliminate Clouseau."

One of Clouseau's disguises in the movie made me think of hatman. Well a shorter version. :P
[youtube:1nmb4zgd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD80iRZLYe0[/youtube:1nmb4zgd]

Clouseau decides to show up at his own funeral and burial.  :lol:
[youtube:1nmb4zgd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw_3iYSRypM[/youtube:1nmb4zgd]

Towards the end of the movie Clouseau catches the bad guys. Fireworks go off and the next day it is revealed to the world that he is not dead but alive :) .
[youtube:1nmb4zgd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4950NwzqdE[/youtube:1nmb4zgd]


okay I might be too nutty....but again "death hoax"...everywhere i turn i see death hoaxes....behind Murray....from Paris's words...etc
Thanx for the videos!
Title: Re: Dr. Conrad Murray -- Winning 'em Over One at a Time
Post by: everlastinglove_MJ on January 19, 2011, 01:41:35 PM
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I watched "Revenge of the Pink Panther Panther" and it was hilarious  :lol: :D !  ….
Towards the end of the movie Clouseau catches the bad guys. Fireworks go off and the next day it is revealed to the world that he is not dead but alive :) .

I wouldn't be surprised that Michael uses some scenes from famous movies in the hoax. Somehow, I’m thinking of the movies of Hitchcock, who’s the master of suspense. In this hoax it seems Michael is the master of suspense. He might be inspired by Alfred Hitchcock.

On http://www.latrobe.edu.au/screeningthep ... brics.html (http://www.latrobe.edu.au/screeningthepast/27/hitchcock-fabrics.html) more about Hitchcock and his work. I copied+pasted some parts of which I think it’s interesting, because some things might fit in Michael’s hoax(movie):
“Fashion, in the widest sense of fashioning, disguising, making and, in instances, remaking (Vertigo, To Catch a Thief) and making-believe (delusion, trickery), fabricating are the formal cloth of a Hitchcock film, its texture and weave. To that extent, his films are a reflection upon the illusions they create, the aspect that the film-makers of the French nouvelle vague (Rohmer, Chabrol, Rivette) focussed upon: not only the spectacle of an illusion but the consciousness of it, made conscious in part by a doubling, a scene constructed by the regard of the characters and entered into by the audience who are led to identify with the characters. The audience is that other crucial element of subjectivity recruited by Hitchcock. His characters and the audience are simultaneously creators of a fiction, caught within it by their desires including the desire to imagine and fabricate, and spectators of it, marvelling at (and commenting upon) the fictional scene in which they are involved and that they have taken a hand in manufacturing.
Insofar as many of Hitchcock’s main characters are accused of a crime or are liable to commit one, or suspected of being so liable (the crime is almost always murder) and though in most cases they are innocent, that is falsely accused, they are plunged, of necessity, into a world of deceit and false appearance in order to prove the ‘truth’ of things and thus their innocence. The audience is in a similar, duplicate position. The false world has been dressed up, fabricated by them (Vertigo) and/or fabricated for them by others, either by the actual killers or by the police pursuing them (Vertigo, North by Northwest), while the task of the hero is to point to the fiction, unravel it, find its threads, seams, stitchings, contrivances, as a detective might. (There is a play with the sartorial by Hitchcock: the tearing of seams of dress as in Saboteur and Mr and Mrs Smith, fittings as in North by Northwest, Vertigo, Rebecca and Under Capricorn, costuming in The Man Who Knew Too Much and To Catch a Thief). By the time the fiction and the crime that is at the centre of it is revealed, truth and fiction, false and real, guilty and innocent become less contraries than intertwined and inextricable.
Madeleine Elster whom Scottie pursues for nearly half of Vertigo is an illusion of his making provoked by his desire. In fact, Madeleine had been manufactured by Gavin Elster who used Judy (dressed her, tutored her to excite, to be a lure and alluring) to incite Scottie to take the bait, to fall in love. She is also a fantasm, a ghost from the past. Madeleine is made to seem (by her actions and the story, and the explanation of it given by Elster), not herself, but one possessed by another, by the dead Carlotta. In reality, Madeleine is possessed by Judy or more precisely Judy, by assuming the attributes of a confected Madeleine, is possessed by that idea of her. Scottie is seduced by the invention that in turn possesses him. He is spellbound, pursuing an hallucination, that is, he completes the false picture given to him, the image of Madeleine that has been fabricated for him, just as the audience is made to complete images given to them by Hitchcock. The narrative then, as presented to the audience, is a false one that the audience is meant to believe as true. The deception is the work of Hitchcock, by making things as palpable and realistic as he can.
The tradition to which Hitchcock’s false and misleading narratives relate is detective fiction where the narrative needs not simply to be read but deciphered. It is intended to be misleading, is a labyrinth, a puzzle, a bedeviled tale. Clues are so organised as to raise suspicion, to lead the reader astray and into a journey of pursuit, to offer solutions, fallacious yet plausible, until the detective puts together the clues correctly to find the criminal and discover the truth, often helped by another criminal act, or the semblance of one, as in Dial M for Murder, Frenzy and I Confess, which provokes the truth and reveals it to everyone, allowing the world to return to its tenuous and temporary normality. At that point, when the entirety of the narrative is revealed as false, it needs to be reread, retraversed since it had been a masquerade, deceitful, trickery. The audience or the reader returns to the past, as Scottie does to reconceive what ‘really’ happened.”

Hitchcock appeared briefly in many of his own films, usually playing upon his portly figure in an incongruous manner, for example, seen struggling to get a double bass onto a train, or walking dogs in the background. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Hitchcock)
Eventually he was forced to appear in the beginning of each movie so that the audience wouldn't be destracted from the plot while they were looking for a glimbs of the master... Source: http://www.hitchcock.nl/cameos.htm (http://www.hitchcock.nl/cameos.htm)
Now, this may sound silly but what if Michael does the same, appearing in his own hoax(film), i.e. Michael as a cameraman outside the courthouse. Or in this TMZ-video http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... 8ae08acbeb (http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=b961877d-e7af-460f-9197-dd8ae08acbeb) at 00:41the walking guy in the white shirt, who's looking in the camera and Murray looks at him. Just a thought.
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