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Title: TIAI January 11
Post by: likemike on January 10, 2011, 10:03:30 PM
http://twitter.com/InSession/status/24641098584428544 (http://twitter.com/InSession/status/24641098584428544)
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: bec on January 10, 2011, 10:24:48 PM
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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 911, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.' 22 minutes ago via web

This twitter seems to be a good source from inside the court room?
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: Andrea on January 10, 2011, 10:27:39 PM
So Murray didn't want to call 911 because he was caring for his patient and didn't want to neglect him but he is seemingly able to make several other phone calls?  And his caring for his patient involves CPR on a bed which he apparently doesn't know how to do?  Ok then.
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: mjssoulmate on January 10, 2011, 10:34:49 PM
He also said he couldn't move MJ by himself.  WTF?  Murray is 6'5'' and weighs ca. 220 lbs. and he is unable to lift a 120 -135 lbs man from the bed to the floor?  Even I could do that and I don't weigh much more than MJ.
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: bec on January 10, 2011, 10:35:11 PM
Maybe he thought calling the bodyguards and leaving voice mails would be faster and less neglectful.

He also couldn't get MJ off the bed by himself either, which is why he did CPR on the bed. I thought Friday it was said Murray did CPR on the bed because it "was a very hard bed".

Not to mention Murray is 6'3 210lbs, MJ is 5'10ish 136. Of course he could get him off the bed, Murray is perfectly able bodied as we have been shown thank you NPG.
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on January 10, 2011, 10:51:54 PM
If all of this really did happen, which it didn't, IMO, Murray wouldn't be "neglecting" him if he would've called 911, but it's all fake anyways. Nice try. As long as Michael comes back safe, I'll be okay. :D. No worries on this redirect! *moving along*
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 11, 2011, 03:27:46 AM
I almost believe  Murray
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: Ijustcantstoplovingu on January 11, 2011, 05:30:34 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
I almost believe  Murray



 :shock:   why?  :shock:  :roll:
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: PureLove on January 11, 2011, 05:35:18 AM
Quote from: "Andrea"
So Murray didn't want to call 911 because he was caring for his patient and didn't want to neglect him but he is seemingly able to make several other phone calls?  And his caring for his patient involves CPR on a bed which he apparently doesn't know how to do?  Ok then.

So true Andrea. All I do is to :lol: to this circus. :D  He didn't want to neglect his patient but he gave him proforol at home for him to sleep and went with a hooker but still he didn't want to neglect him? yeah sure :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: Sarahli on January 11, 2011, 05:46:44 AM
Murray did not call 911 ...  it had to be exactly at 12:21.

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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 911, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.' 22 minutes ago via web
Isn't Murray just telling that he is well in on it, that he cares for Michael as we do and that he will not neglect him meaning that he will do what he has to do in order to help him? LOL I must be reading too much into it... now Murray also said that he loves Katherine...
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: PureLove on January 11, 2011, 05:54:58 AM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Murray did not call 911 ...  it had to be exactly at 12:21.

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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 911, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.' 22 minutes ago via web
Isn't Murray just telling that he is well in on it, that he cares for Michael as we do and that he will not neglect him meaning that he will do what he has to do in order to help him? LOL I must be reading too much into it... now Murray also said that he loves Katherine...

If we read btw the lines, it is true that he cares for Michael and doesn't want to neglect him. We all know this as we know Murray is innocent. But if we join the circus, the thing he said is too funny because he neglected him in every way.  :)
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: loyalfan on January 11, 2011, 06:09:15 AM
this is all worthy of a film....................oh yes thats right......it is a film..... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: reasonables+luvs+MJ on January 11, 2011, 06:13:46 AM
More inspirational quotes:

"Actors are willing to give their entire lives to a moment-- to that line that laugh, that gesture, or that interpretation that will stir the audience's soul."  ~David Ackert

"Acting is about giving something away, handling yourself over to whatever role you are asked to play. I'm not hiding or escaping or seeking anonymity. I reserve the right not to have a rubber stamp on my forehead saying that is who I am. Because who I am gets in the way people looking innocently at the parts I play."  ~Alan Rickman

"The beauty about being a natural actor is just being yourself without getting caught up with how you think a role should be performed. The horror many novices face is not knowing that the natual counts much more than the pretention of being somebody else. The more natural you are then the more convincing the interpreted role will be. The horror many professionals face is that pretending to be natural eventually catches up with them."  ~Martin Dansky
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: vup on January 11, 2011, 06:17:20 AM
Lintemoot analyzed samples of Michael Jackson’s blood for the presence of propofol.

Jaime Lintemoot is  senior criminalist at the LA County Coroner’s Office.
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 11, 2011, 06:53:38 AM
Murray your too funny...so lets see what we have...countless Oscar awards...some peoples choice awards and now comedian of the year...sorry my mistake lets make a new award comedian of the century...looks like he is giving you a run for your money MJ while your gone.
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: Sarahli on January 11, 2011, 07:06:00 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Murray did not call 911 ...  it had to be exactly at 12:21.

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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 911, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.' 22 minutes ago via web
Isn't Murray just telling that he is well in on it, that he cares for Michael as we do and that he will not neglect him meaning that he will do what he has to do in order to help him? LOL I must be reading too much into it... now Murray also said that he loves Katherine...

If we read btw the lines, it is true that he cares for Michael and doesn't want to neglect him. We all know this as we know Murray is innocent. But if we join the circus, the thing he said is too funny because he neglected him in every way.  :)

Yes of course  :D  taken at face value seems to be a very odd statement!
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: ladymjc on January 11, 2011, 08:57:00 AM
I'm 5'10" 130lbs and when playing around, my 8 year old can easily slide me off the bed by grabbing one arm.  If he wasn't breathing, highly intoxicated with propofol, I don't think MJ would feel it if he was pulled off the bed. Even afterwards if he was sore, his life was still saved so I don't think he would mind too much.  Murray just goofed up in his role.
I've also read that Murray was his doctor for only 11 days and then some say he was his doctor for more than two months. Can someone clear that up for me?
One more thing I don't understand is, since when would it be allowed for a person accused of involuntary manslaughter of the highly most recognizable person on the planet be able to make a youtube video and have it published?  That has always urked me.
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: airieslady on January 11, 2011, 09:19:56 AM
Yes, and don't forget that Youtube... Murray said he feared for his life, yet he is all over the place walking around in public.  I wouldn't be doing that.
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: paula-c on January 11, 2011, 09:50:52 AM
It every day this more contradictory, :roll:  there are two things that have nothing to do with this redirections, but there are to be added to the list of contradictions, are two Tweets that i was called the attention;

On cross, Martinez concedes that his interview with Dr. Murray was actually “pretty long”. Possibly over two hours and 47 minutes


The interview between Martinez and Murray lasted approximately half an hour. :roll:
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 11, 2011, 12:13:29 PM
:shock:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Are you serious? So Michael's dying, and CM doesn't call 911 because he doesn't want to neglect him. I don't care what you want to do, if someone's dying you call 911 immediately! :o
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 11, 2011, 12:20:51 PM
Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
I almost believe  Murray



 :shock:   why?  :shock:  :roll:

maybe he was in shock when he saw what happened......idk
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: Grace on January 11, 2011, 12:22:03 PM
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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 911, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.' 22 minutes ago via web

This makes so much sense.
All these 911 calls on TMZ point to 9/11 - that's why they don't cease to be cited.
All those strange deaths in Hollywood with reported, taped, leaked, published 911 calls - there happened so many strange deaths on 9/11, right?

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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 9/11, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.'

Caring for a patient does include not neglecting the person because 9/11 would not attribute any good when called.
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 11, 2011, 12:47:32 PM
OK I think it is strange when someone doesn't call 911 right away when a person around is not breathing.
To call 911 is the first impulse in such a situation unless.......unless you have something to hide
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: MissG on January 11, 2011, 12:58:01 PM
Again when reading so much about performing CPR I think about something else,
like Covert Conditioning: Covert Positive Reinforcement

Or

CPR, in suicide prevention, the three risk signs for suicide:
Current plan, Prior Attempts, and Resources

Also to add, that another form of covert  conditioning procedure exists, and one is called Covert Modelling ----> CM -----> Conrad Murray??


To understand what I am talking about
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_conditioning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_conditioning)

Covert conditioning is an approach to mental health treatment that uses the principles of behavior modification, which emerged from the applied behavior analysis literature to assist people in making improvements in their behavior or inner experience. The method relies on the person's capacity to use imagery for purposes such as mental rehearsal.

Could Michael Jackson be now a days just Michael?
Someone gets my point? or Am I too to far?
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: Grace on January 11, 2011, 01:19:43 PM
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CPR - Code of Professional Responsibility
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_B ... onsibility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bar_Association_Model_Code_of_Professional_Responsibility)

CPR - RPC - Rules of Professional Conduct
http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/c ... 58&id=1267 (http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_extend.jsp?cid=10158&id=1267)
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: MissG on January 11, 2011, 01:23:05 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
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CPR - Code of Professional Responsibility
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_B ... onsibility (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bar_Association_Model_Code_of_Professional_Responsibility)

CPR - RPC - Rules of Professional Conduct
http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/c ... 58&id=1267 (http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_extend.jsp?cid=10158&id=1267)

More towards a bad defense then? bad lawyers? a bad deal at the end? the Concert deals?
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: Grace on January 11, 2011, 02:05:48 PM
I think CPR is about everybody's responsibility to apply moral and ethics to their life, to do right, to speak right, to live right and to love right.

When one is not asleep and one has the right attitude towards life and all individuals around,
one will sense to not hurt other people, to not lie, not pre-judge, not mistreat or apply any other example of bad conduct towards life - as far as one may influence this and can overcome individual weaknesses.

I think as much as a one-handed "CPR" will not save a life, a one-handed attitude towards life leaving a backdoor open will not lead to a fruitful life.

It's about distinguishing, decision making into the right direction and standing by that.

A non-sleeping mind will acknowledge when injustice is being executed,
a settled mind will know that there's an action required,
(mouth-to-mouth resuscitation is also "spreading the word")
a brave mind will stand up and fight against injustice.

We thought Doc Murray did not help the ill patient, did not do the CPR right "as should be" and let Michael die out of negligence and we were outraged.
We do not help ill mom earth, do not do the CPR right "as should be" and let our most precious source of everything die out of negligence. Are we outraged?

That's my thoughts on CPR.
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: TheRunningGirl on January 11, 2011, 02:17:11 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 911, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.' 22 minutes ago via web

This makes so much sense.
http://All these 911 calls on TMZ point to 9/11 - that's why they don't cease to be cited.
All those strange deaths in Hollywood with reported, taped, leaked, published 911 calls - there happened so many strange deaths on 9/11, right?

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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 9/11, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.'

Caring for a patient does include not neglecting the person because 9/11 would not attribute any good when called.

I am with you on this one Grace.  I think there is a lot of symbolism in all we are seeing and hearing and Murray's reply makes perfect sense in the context of 9/11.  9/11 was a day when innocent lives were taken away, when lives were "played with", "ignored", "neglected" and it was the opposite of a "caring" day.  

9/9/11 is also Oprah last show (Many previous discussions on this - think possible 9/11) and her new network is OWN--->NWO (HARPO---> OPRAH)

It somewhat all feels related and I am sure that there is a lot more than the few connections discussed here.


With L.O.V.E

PS:
This also reminds me that 9/11/2001 is also the day the little 9 years old girl that died in the Gabrielle Gifford's shooting was born... My prayers go the victims and their families.  (credit to mjintrigue2012 for drawing my attention to the little girl birth date)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shot-c_n_806211.html

Thank you TS for this re-direct...  ;)
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: Sarahli on January 11, 2011, 03:30:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3j7eZVFgLc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3j7eZVFgLc)
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 11, 2011, 07:22:37 PM
Thanks for the re-direct, TS.

I agree that this is definitely a multi-layered message.  As some of you have said, to call 911 is a responsibility when someone is in distress or dying.  Unless he is not... So, if MJ was not really dying, there was no need to call 911 (hint- he is alive).  Also, Murray was "caring and not neglecting his client" ( hint- Murray is in on the hoax).  
Then of course, we do have the connection between 911 and 9/11 and all the implications.  Maybe we are being reminded that as caring citizens it is our responsibility to not neglect our nation by turning a blind eye to the background actions (involvment of NWO).

Nice catch on OWN and NWO...  The Oprah factor still has me baffled...friend or foe...
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: paula-c on January 11, 2011, 07:41:02 PM
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ignisaeternus wrote:

Thanks for the re-direct, TS.

I agree that this is definitely a multi-layered message. As some of you have said, to call 911 is a responsibility when someone is in distress or dying. Unless he is not... So, if MJ was not really dying, there was no need to call 911 (hint- he is alive). Also, Murray was "caring and not neglecting his client" ( hint- Murray is in on the hoax).

It is true, and remembering the yesterday redirection of equal way, if "someone" already died, that helps a paramedic can give?
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: GodhaschosenMJ on January 11, 2011, 08:31:18 PM
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Murray did not call 911 ...  it had to be exactly at 12:21.

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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 911, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.' 22 minutes ago via web
Isn't Murray just telling that he is well in on it, that he cares for Michael as we do and that he will not neglect him meaning that he will do what he has to do in order to help him? LOL I must be reading too much into it... now Murray also said that he loves Katherine...

I agree with the 12:21 timing that Murray was waiting for.

I also find this interesting... 111 (date 1/11)  X 11 (year) = 1221!!
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: Andrea on January 11, 2011, 08:53:05 PM
Quote from: "GodhaschosenMJ"
Quote from: "Sarahli"
Murray did not call 911 ...  it had to be exactly at 12:21.

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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 911, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.' 22 minutes ago via web
Isn't Murray just telling that he is well in on it, that he cares for Michael as we do and that he will not neglect him meaning that he will do what he has to do in order to help him? LOL I must be reading too much into it... now Murray also said that he loves Katherine...

I agree with the 12:21 timing that Murray was waiting for.

I also find this interesting... 111 (date 1/11)  X 11 (year) = 1221!!

 :shock:  :D   Isn't that quite the "coincidence"?   :lol:
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: Maestro82 on January 11, 2011, 10:56:22 PM
Hi everybody here,

I like to point out that the time the call was placed to 911.. 12:21
may also refer to the bible... Romans 12:21,
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Love to you all from me!
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: still looking on January 11, 2011, 11:34:15 PM
1/11/2011= 1+1+1+2+1+1=7
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: navibl on January 12, 2011, 09:22:16 AM
Some thing else stands out to me about 12:21....Revelations Chapters 12 and 21

CH 12
The Woman and the Dragon
   1 A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head.   2 She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.   3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads.   4 His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.   5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.   6 The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days

At the Memorial Service Jennifer Hudson was very preganant dressed in white. I BeLIEve this was very symbolic of this Chapter.  Also Michael's 777 seems to be of reference to the 7 Angels, 7 Seals, 7 Bowls in Revelations.

This Chapter also speaks of Michael the arch angel in a war with Satan,   Michael had the picture of what looked like himself, standing on Satan with a sword drawn, "not saying Michael is an Archangel as angels don't come to earth and marry and have children, but this painting was very symbolic of Michael defeating Satan in his own life, and to bring attention to the world, that God's children in the last days will have that same power and protection,

Chapter 21
1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.

Michael's Earth Song is so very symbolic of a new earth, or a Renewed earth, as God never completely destroys his creation.  This earth will become new after the events in Revelations take place.

Not saying Michael is still of a formal religion which he is not, but Jehova's Wittnesses believe we are in the Seven Years of Tribulation.  I had a lengthy conversation with a dear friend that is one, and they believe Revelations is unfolding before our eyes.   I don't care what anyone says, we have NEVER has mass numbers of birds fall out of the sky dead around the world before, and hundreds of million of fish wash up dead!  With no explanation.

It really is time to WAKE UP and stop living in denial of what is right in front of our face.  My home town in the southeast has been buried under a six inch layers of snow and ICE.  Never has the entire city been paralized like this before.  Things are changing on this earth faster than people will admit.  Something is cause these changes and life as we know it won't go on much longer..SO ..Are you Listening?  Michael is calling.
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: mdc on January 12, 2011, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: "bec"
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When Martinez asked Murray why he did not call 911, Murray said he was 'caring for his patient, and he did not want to neglect him.' 22 minutes ago via web

This twitter seems to be a good source from inside the court room?

Whether it's relevant or not Murray's statement brought this to mind:

"I cared too much"--Elvis' Dr. Nick told the Medical Board
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Nichopoulos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Nichopoulos)
Title: Re: TIAI 1/11
Post by: navibl on January 12, 2011, 12:12:43 PM
Rebbie wrote to Michael in the Memorial Program:

I love you so much and I'm Looking forward to the time when I'll see you again on Earth John 5:28-29.  I know this is something you not only cherished but TALKED about with others.  Then the world will be a paradise, a place free from corruption and poverty.  then the world will be a place of true peace and serentiy.  This is what we were all looking to, then I'll see you again.  Sleep in peace, because as the bible says, you're just asleep, and I look forward to life without end at last. Psalms 37:29
Your sister Rebbie.

So Michael did speak to people about the corruption of the world coming to an end and Christ calling for resurrection.  Then the renewal process with begin and we will live eternally on earth where it will be as God intended in the beginning of creation.

"This is what we were all looking to...."Keep your Head up to the SKY"..for we know not the day nor the hour that the son of man comes, .... but we know the season as Jesus told of in Matthew 24.
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