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Title: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: finfin on January 14, 2011, 02:00:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaMELwMDzGs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaMELwMDzGs)

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Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: loyalfan on January 14, 2011, 02:30:52 PM
THE PAISLEY TIE ....................OMG.................. :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: paula-c on January 14, 2011, 06:03:28 PM
I wanted to see a video of the hearings, well
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: suspicious mind on January 14, 2011, 06:29:12 PM
excuse me while i go get something for my aching head :(
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 14, 2011, 10:58:46 PM
I just watched this video and stopped for the millionth time at hatman. It seems like whenever I see a picture of hatman I stop and look at him because there is something off. Tonight it crossed my mind - and please don't think I'm crazy - but what if hatman is Dr Murray, or visa-versa.
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 14, 2011, 11:01:24 PM
another comparison from the video.

The chins are similar and the shoulders look about the same width apart.
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 15, 2011, 12:36:55 AM
Thank you for posting this video. Michael loves to disappear and reappear. I don't know if the hatman is Murray. It may be a coincidence that the hatman had a similar tie as Murray. It can go either way, who knows.
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: MJonmind on January 15, 2011, 01:29:12 AM
I couldn't see it, it's blocked.
 
You might have something there, paisley ties, tall and paunchy, likes his cellphone. I'm also convinced that Murray on Youtube message to fans at least, was Michael. So maybe we've got to keep on connecting those dots. These 2 shots show he is quite tall. First the lady beside him hugs the black lady who seems fairly tall, next pic he hugs her and is much taller than his companion.[attachment=1:3nzkjvkj]fu hat la hug.jpg[/attachment:3nzkjvkj][attachment=0:3nzkjvkj]fu hat lad hug.jpg[/attachment:3nzkjvkj]
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: Lovely One on January 15, 2011, 03:00:05 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
another comparison from the video.

The chins are similar and the shoulders look about the same width apart.


OMG!!! It is very possible! Now that you pointed it out!
Also, hatman had that belly that we thought looked like a prosthetic. Dr. Murray has one
of those "bellys" too!

Good Observation!
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 15, 2011, 09:46:37 AM
Quote from: "Lovely One"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
another comparison from the video.

The chins are similar and the shoulders look about the same width apart.


OMG!!! It is very possible! Now that you pointed it out!
Also, hatman had that belly that we thought looked like a prosthetic. Dr. Murray has one
of those "bellys" too!

Good Observation!

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Dr Murray ended up being hatman and Michael the blond lady? How funny. Whenever I see hatman's hair it looks like it's covering dark hair underneath, especially around the neckline.
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: robd on January 15, 2011, 04:19:20 PM
Perhaps the tie is a clue to tell us that Conrad Murray was indeed hatman!
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 15, 2011, 04:31:17 PM
Why would Murray disguise himself as the hatman?
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 15, 2011, 08:49:27 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Why would Murray disguise himself as the hatman?

I don't know - I still haven't answered for positive the "why are we in this hoax" question in my mind. Stranger things have happened. Both of these men are of similar build and have some features that are similar. Yes, I know, one is of a different race, but that could be cosmetic. I have learned after these past 18 months not to say "that would never happen". It's just an observation.
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 15, 2011, 09:37:38 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Why would Murray disguise himself as the hatman?

I don't know - I still haven't answered for positive the "why are we in this hoax" question in my mind. Stranger things have happened. Both of these men are of similar build and have some features that are similar. Yes, I know, one is of a different race, but that could be cosmetic. I have learned after these past 18 months not to say "that would never happen". It's just an observation.


I understand what you are trying to say. What purpose would Murray have to disguise himself as the hat man? It is not that he is an escaped convict and he needs to disguise himself so no one would recognise him. Now if you tell me it can be Michael that is more plausible than you telling me Murray. I tell you the truth the more time passes by the more confused I am, but I will never give up hope, I have faith that God will help Michael and we shall find out the truth. Blessings
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: MJonmind on January 16, 2011, 12:40:12 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "Lovely One"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
another comparison from the video.

The chins are similar and the shoulders look about the same width apart.


OMG!!! It is very possible! Now that you pointed it out!
Also, hatman had that belly that we thought looked like a prosthetic. Dr. Murray has one
of those "bellys" too!

Good Observation!

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Dr Murray ended up being hatman and Michael the blond lady? How funny. Whenever I see hatman's hair it looks like it's covering dark hair underneath, especially around the neckline.
But the hatman at the Memorial looks quite different, smaller build and a beard, so likely a different person.IMO[attachment=0:3qhb3lc0]88883444_10_full[1].jpg[/attachment:3qhb3lc0]
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: voiceforthesilent on January 16, 2011, 12:47:38 AM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Why would Murray disguise himself as the hatman?

I don't know - I still haven't answered for positive the "why are we in this hoax" question in my mind. Stranger things have happened. Both of these men are of similar build and have some features that are similar. Yes, I know, one is of a different race, but that could be cosmetic. I have learned after these past 18 months not to say "that would never happen". It's just an observation.


I understand what you are trying to say. What purpose would Murray have to disguise himself as the hat man? It is not that he is an escaped convict and he needs to disguise himself so no one would recognise him. Now if you tell me it can be Michael that is more plausible than you telling me Murray. I tell you the truth the more time passes by the more confused I am, but I will never give up hope, I have faith that God will help Michael and we shall find out the truth. Blessings

I agree with you - I will never give up hope either :)

Yes, just as many of us believe Dave Dave on LKL is Michael, it's possible that hatman and/or Murray is Michael as well. Dave Dave on LKL also has broad shoulders and it's hard to judge the height because he is sitting. I just don't know if MJ is all of these men - but I guess maybe they could be since none of them have been shown together.

My thought is that possibly Murray isn't really Murray. He's hatman who is dressing up as Murray. Maybe for protection? IDK. The only time anyone seems to see Dr Murray is when NPG or TMZ photographs him. No fans have witnessed seeing him about, I don't believe. It's just a thought that will probably turn out to be nothing.

Michael seems to really like illusions. The illusion is that what we think we see isn't really the way it is. Black men, white men, women, men, they are all being played by the same people.  The lesson could be that sometimes there is more to the story than meets the eye. IDK - just a thought.

Blessings.
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on January 16, 2011, 04:11:02 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Why would Murray disguise himself as the hatman?

I don't know - I still haven't answered for positive the "why are we in this hoax" question in my mind. Stranger things have happened. Both of these men are of similar build and have some features that are similar. Yes, I know, one is of a different race, but that could be cosmetic. I have learned after these past 18 months not to say "that would never happen". It's just an observation.


I understand what you are trying to say. What purpose would Murray have to disguise himself as the hat man? It is not that he is an escaped convict and he needs to disguise himself so no one would recognise him. Now if you tell me it can be Michael that is more plausible than you telling me Murray. I tell you the truth the more time passes by the more confused I am, but I will never give up hope, I have faith that God will help Michael and we shall find out the truth. Blessings

I agree with you - I will never give up hope either :)

Yes, just as many of us believe Dave Dave on LKL is Michael, it's possible that hatman and/or Murray is Michael as well. Dave Dave on LKL also has broad shoulders and it's hard to judge the height because he is sitting. I just don't know if MJ is all of these men - but I guess maybe they could be since none of them have been shown together.

My thought is that possibly Murray isn't really Murray. He's hatman who is dressing up as Murray. Maybe for protection? IDK. The only time anyone seems to see Dr Murray is when NPG or TMZ photographs him. No fans have witnessed seeing him about, I don't believe. It's just a thought that will probably turn out to be nothing.

Michael seems to really like illusions. The illusion is that what we think we see isn't really the way it is. Black men, white men, women, men, they are all being played by the same people.  The lesson could be that sometimes there is more to the story than meets the eye. IDK - just a thought.

Blessings.

You know you make sense. even if we do not see them together maybe they do not know eachother. I know if I lived in LA and I met Conrad Murray, I would approach him and talk to him to see what posessed him to give MJ propofol, and maybe i could teach him CPR. :lol: The Ironic thing is that he goes to the gym, and no one approaches him. Why? I am not saying fans have to beat him up  but talk to him or try to talk to him. Everywhere you see Murray's picture it seems he is posing for a picture. He is aware of it, just like a photo shoot. You can see his expression no worries in the world. Just study his face, his emotion. I don't see he is worried! This is very strange. Look when Michael was accused, you can see he was worried, and sick up to his stomach. I see the difference. Maybe I am wrong. We shall see the next picture of Murray.
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 24, 2011, 07:15:10 AM
I have no doubt in my mind that Hatman at the private funeral is Conrad Murray in disguise...Even the body language and statute give him away.  His height is a dead give away, as well as his thin wrists and ankles.  Of course he has alot of makeup on, to disguise himself.....I still think all of the people invited to the funeral, to some degree, may be part of the hoax.  Even the regular police men are there in full view.  I researched this extensively before.


The matching ties are a dead give away.  

Hatman is also wearing the exact suit as CM did fro his preliminary hearing...

The obvious disguise, was to draw attention to him, and MJ knew we would start noticing all of the small details and make the connection.

Murray is a part of the hoax, or MJ is really dead.  I think the later option is most likely, as why else would TMZ draw so much attention the the tie???
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 26, 2011, 06:58:06 AM
OK what I want to say is that I think the hatman is obviously disguised (why else wopuld he need a hat, a wig and glasses?) so this makes him "guilty" in the first place.

So we have a man in disguise, we have the same tie, the same chin and even the same nose and apearantely the same height and TMZ articles pointing to the tie,  so I think it is very possible the hatman is CM.

I can not believe someone noticed they wared the same tie  :shock:
Title: Re: MagicalXscapism Conrad Murray Preliminary Hearing
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 26, 2011, 08:05:01 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
OK what I want to say is that I think the hatman is obviously disguised (why else wopuld he need a hat, a wig and glasses?) so this makes him "guilty" in the first place.

So we have a man in disguise, we have the same tie, the same chin and even the same nose and apearantely the same height and TMZ articles pointing to the tie,  so I think it is very possible the hatman is CM.

I can not believe someone noticed they wared the same tie  :shock:

And Murray wore that tie another time as well....when he was given a free coffee from starbucks.!!!!
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