Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Theories => References & Similarities => The Bible References => Topic started by: ladylee1979 on January 26, 2011, 06:41:16 PM
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what happen about the bloody shirt found in michaels wardrobe on the day of his death? has it been mentioned in court or used as evidence? seemed big news at the time but no mention of it since can anyone shed any light on this matter plz heres a link just to remind you http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... drobe.html (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2573761/Blouse-covered-in-blood-found-in-Jackos-wardrobe.html)
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well all i can say is ever since i learned about this shirt i can only think of it being from the Salvation Army Store. don't know why. sorry to be somewhat bizarre but you should be used to it by now. :(
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First up ...some silly thoughts...Murrey went to the toilet as he has stated and that is when MJ imposter was supposed to sit up and self inject more propofol. Maybe Murrey decided to have a shave while in the bathroom before meeting his girlfriend or going to visit a prostitute [ according to Geraldine Hughs] and he cut himself shaving, grabbed a new white t shirt to stop the nick bleeding which got thrown in the cupboard in the scramble to clean the room when alvarez and murrey were stashing used propoferol bottles.
No, honestly, I don't think it has any relevance at all except the price tag of $9.99. which applies to TIAI and the overall plan to turn 666 into 999. So why did it appear to have blood on it? To draw our attention. It was a guest room also and Michael was always a sharp dresser and I'm sure even his t-shirts would have been of better quality.
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If Murray cut himself shaving then he was gushing blood according to the photos of the shirt that was shown on the net. It wasn't just little spots, more like a really good cut from a kitchen knife or something.
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Who's to say that is really blood? It could be anything on that shirt. Makeup, hairdye, paint...
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Couldn't find where I mentioned this about the shirt relating to Joseph in Genesis. Joseph's brothers were jealous of him, and angry that he dreamed that they all bowed down to him; and so they traded him for money to slavetraders, dipped his coat in blood and showed their father. It was a sign that he was supposedly dead but wasn't really. When Joseph years later after much suffering, rises to second in command in all of Egypt just under the Pharaoh, he tests his brothers to see if they've had a change of heart and are not jealous and hateful anymore. As they actually do bow down to him, he reveals himself to them and says,
Genesis 45:7 (King James Version)
7And God sent me before you to preserve you a posterity in the earth, and to save your lives by a great deliverance (from a severe 7 year famine.
Genesis 50:19-20 (King James Version)
19And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for am I in the place of God?
20But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.
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Couldn't find where I mentioned this about the shirt relating to Joseph in Genesis. Joseph's brothers were jealous of him, and angry that he dreamed that they all bowed down to him; and so they traded him for money to slavetraders, dipped his coat in blood and showed their father. It was a sign that he was supposedly dead but wasn't really. When Joseph years later after much suffering, rises to second in command in all of Egypt just under the Pharaoh, he tests his brothers to see if they've had a change of heart and are not jealous and hateful anymore. As they actually do bow down to him, he reveals himself to them and says,
Genesis 45:7 (King James Version)
7And God sent me before you to preserve you a posterity in the earth, and to save your lives by a great deliverance (from a severe 7 year famine.
Genesis 50:19-20 (King James Version)
19And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for am I in the place of God?
20But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.
O!! You're totally right! Nail on the head style. Wow, the bloody shirt... so old yet never clearly linked, until now. I says you win MJonmind!
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Thanks, although I think it's a weak connection maybe coincidental.
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Halloween costume maybe......... :?
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First up ...some silly thoughts...Murrey went to the toilet as he has stated and that is when MJ imposter was supposed to sit up and self inject more propofol. Maybe Murrey decided to have a shave while in the bathroom before meeting his girlfriend or going to visit a prostitute [ according to Geraldine Hughs] and he cut himself shaving, grabbed a new white t shirt to stop the nick bleeding which got thrown in the cupboard in the scramble to clean the room when alvarez and murrey were stashing used propoferol bottles.
No, honestly, I don't think it has any relevance at all except the price tag of $9.99. which applies to TIAI and the overall plan to turn 666 into 999. So why did it appear to have blood on it? To draw our attention. It was a guest room also and Michael was always a sharp dresser and I'm sure even his t-shirts would have been of better quality.
The pricetag said $3.99 :D
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Thanks, although I think it's a weak connection maybe coincidental.
:shock:
Snap out of it.
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could of been JAM IN THE CLOSET pmsl songs from dangerous album written june 25th 1990 or round abouts ps thought shirt was $3.99 which in date was the funeral
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Thanks, although I think it's a weak connection maybe coincidental.
:shock:
Snap out of it.
All right then I will! :lol:
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The blood stains on shirt and the cost of it $3.99 of course was the burial. It was a white shirt. Jesus was buried in white wasn't he and I am sure there were blood stains from being nailed to the cross. Not saying MJ is Jesus by any means, but the whole representation of what Jesus meant to his followers and how he was treated by others is what I think MJ is trying to convey. I think the shirt represents death and the burial.
I think MJ references alot from the bible. In alot of interviews, MJ references the bible. He is a very spiritual person.
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yeah..it looks like spilled makeup... maybe that's what Murray was going back after...didn't he want a tube of something?? Maybe it was a tube of dark makeup. Perhaps that's along the line we toss around of Michael putting on dark makeup to go out unnoticed...maybe he had been practicing...the shirt is a clue or it wouldn't have been hung back up!! It looks more spilled than wiped up...
We know from the "mess" at Neverland, Michael is a collector, that his private rooms were quite messy. This shirt would've been laying someplace...if wiped or spilled upon. To hang it is a clue, otherwise it would've been thrown away or washed or left laying.
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so it is 3.99? i was confused somewhat because that is what it looked like to me and some seemed to think it was 9.99. the price is what made me think of the Salvation Army Store. Jesus blood was shed for our salvation. ;)
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Okay...I'm studying it...again.
That does look like makeup...smears along the edge...but, we know that was Murray's room. So it hangs in Murray's stuff. Look at that shirt. It is a surgical shirt isn't it??? Could the doctor be wearing makeup??? It's dark like he is!!
#1....doctor's room
#2...the color of doctor
#3...doctor's closet...(do the other things look like Michael's?)
#4...even if it's blood..(don't blood get stiff? it don't look stiff...) ...see above 1-3..
this is the doctors...
it's the WHY it was hung that gets me
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is that the one jacket hanging next to it that michael had on when tt mas man handleing him (or whatever was gooing on)?
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I remember reading an article about the police coming to the Encino home to talk to Katherine during the investigation. The police were at a stand still and didn't think they could make a case. They reported that Prince came in the room and said he would testify. He said he came in the room when Murray came to get him and there was blood all over his father's shirt and chest. I think it was a TMZ article. I will try to find it.
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I remember reading an article about the police coming to the Encino home to talk to Katherine during the investigation. The police were at a stand still and didn't think they could make a case. They reported that Prince came in the room and said he would testify. He said he came in the room when Murray came to get him and there was blood all over his father's shirt and chest. I think it was a TMZ article. I will try to find it.[/quot
I found an article in the National Enquirer that says Prince saw the blood when he was called into the room where his father was. It is the last lines of this article.
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Photo by: Pacific Coast News When the investigation into Michael Jackson's death stalled a few months ago, the King of Pop's oldest son Prince made an emotional plea to detectives to get justice for his late father, The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively.
And in what could be a major breakthrough for prosecutors, the brave 13-year-old has offered to testify against his dad's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, who was formally charged with involuntary manslaughter on Feb. 8.
"It's possible Dr. Murray would never have been charged if it wasn't for Prince's impassioned appeal to police a few months ago to 'get justice for our daddy,'" revealed a source close to the investigation.
"The police were giving an update to some members of the Jackson family. When it appeared they could not offer a date when Dr. Murray would be arrested, Prince, who'd been listening outside the room, entered.
"He surprised detectives with an emotional statement. Prince told them 'not to give up' and said their father had told him and his sister Paris many times that 'anything is possible if you want it hard enough and you work hard enough.'
"Prince even offered to testify against Dr. Murray because he said, 'I was there - it'll be in my memory forever.'
"The hard-nosed detectives were practically moved to tears. The investigation picked up - and Prince is to thank for that."
Added a Jackson family friend: "Prince is the only person, aside from the doctor, who saw what really happened - and he says he thinks that the doctor did something wrong, that he killed his dad!
"Prince says he saw blood on his father's clothes, and there were times the doctor would not let him and the other kids in the bedroom to see their dad."
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Thank you! I thought I was the onlyone who thought there's no 999 in this shirt photo. It's 3.99.
Although I don't believe the murder theory but could it be that MJ indeed was needled in a lot which caused bleeding- I'm not saying a needle can cause all this bleeding but when I was in surgery, I was put on a iv drip and when it came off, it bled till the nurse put pressure on it with cotton. Now MJ autopsy report says there were several needle marks on his body, so maybe this shirt was used to clean blood from all those marks. His could also work with any body that could have or was used for the hoax. I honestly don't see the 999 stuff. Sorry buy that's jay me'. You guys have your own opinions :)
First up ...some silly thoughts...Murrey went to the toilet as he has stated and that is when MJ imposter was supposed to sit up and self inject more propofol. Maybe Murrey decided to have a shave while in the bathroom before meeting his girlfriend or going to visit a prostitute [ according to Geraldine Hughs] and he cut himself shaving, grabbed a new white t shirt to stop the nick bleeding which got thrown in the cupboard in the scramble to clean the room when alvarez and murrey were stashing used propoferol bottles.
No, honestly, I don't think it has any relevance at all except the price tag of $9.99. which applies to TIAI and the overall plan to turn 666 into 999. So why did it appear to have blood on it? To draw our attention. It was a guest room also and Michael was always a sharp dresser and I'm sure even his t-shirts would have been of better quality.
The pricetag said $3.99 :D
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Who's to say that is really blood? It could be anything on that shirt. Makeup, hairdye, paint...
Yes, and this is exactly the problem with the bloodied shirt in the wardrobe.
The fact that the police did not seize it for examination absolutely beggars belief.
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To me the key with the shirt is not what substence they used to have it looking like blood, but the fact that it still had price tag. Usually, when I put a shirt on, I take away all the price tags and I do believe there are more ppl like me out there :lol:
So, the fact that there was a price sticker left means to me it all was planed for something: 1) blooded shirt and 2) price sticker
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So why in the world is the shirt not taken and tested by police, to put questions to rest? Is it MJ's blood from previous IV attemps of the doc, etc. or dark make-up cream as in for MJ or CM for diguise purposes? I think it's been left there for hoax illusion purposes including the $3.99, because it stirs up the imagination and controversy. The fact that it is hanging, leaves us all hanging. That it is all twisted on the hanger alludes to the hoax story being twisted. :lol: Hopefully the trial coming up will shed new light on it.
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To me the key with the shirt is not what substence they used to have it looking like blood, but the fact that it still had price tag. Usually, when I put a shirt on, I take away all the price tags and I do believe there are more ppl like me out there :lol:
So, the fact that there was a price sticker left means to me it all was planed for something: 1) blooded shirt and 2) price sticker
I agree.
I'm not sure it was even actually hanging in MJs closet. We have no proof that it was other then trusting that the photo was captioned properly. Hoax clue? Absolutely. Found at the scene? Hearsay.
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theory: the price tag is 3.99...99 is a very significant number and 3 is C...so traduced it could be see 99. now this:
1. Where are the DNA studies? Michael had a medical record so there must be a record of his DNA structure.
2. What is Michael's blood type? some say O negative,some say A+ others B. the answer may be on the shirt.
3.the shirt looks like a nurse's shirt...the style.
4.remember profofol is only handled by nurses,not even doctors within the hospitals and also has inventory numbers to trace them back to main base...why hasn`t that been done?
5.I remember Janet was said to have hung that there.could it have a purpose: maybe to be able to check the DNA and blood type and see if it corresponds to Michael Jackson? or which one?
6.many articles refer to his having a live in double...double cars,double clothes,double everything.
7. remember Michael fell from the platform in a concert in Munich? in 1999? it broke,and it was during Dangerous tour...
does all this ring a bell to anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPIFLhR-BGA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPIFLhR-BGA)
check the video and read the info..you shall find interesting facts,including this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherry_Turkle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherry_Turkle) Life on the screen
if MJ faked his death,to escape,or actually ESCAPED death because of human nature(Dr. Murray calling his lover) with HIM pointing out at everything that shows us HOW MANY TIMES he was involved in FREAK accidents,trials,media war and all...from the 911 call to many other things...or if the series of events caused all this: it only points out that there are MANY SILENT CULPRITS WHO ACTUALLY SMILE AT US TO THE DAY.AND SHOULD BE INTRODUCED INTO THE COURT.
911--twin towers
99 Dangerous tour Munich Germany (not germans but the neonazi illuminonazi groups)
etc...
I may be crazy...but who know...and actually 84 to 99 are 15 years....and add 10 more and you get 2009. in total 25 years.
Motown 25. Odd huh?
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How much of the Dome Project did Michael Jackson finish before he died?
Two weeks before he died, Michael Jackson wrapped up work on an elaborate production dubbed the "Dome Project" that could be the final finished video piece overseen by the King of Pop, The Associated Press has learned.
Jackson was apparently preparing to dazzle concert audiences in London with a high-tech show in which 3D images — some inspired by his "Thriller" era — would flash behind him as he performed on stage.
"It was a groundbreaking effort," said Vince Pace, whose company provided cameras for the shoot, a 3D system he created with filmmaker James Cameron.
"To think that Michael's gone now, that's probably the last documented footage of him to be shot in that manner," Pace said.
Two people with knowledge of the secretive project confirmed its existence Monday to the AP on condition they not be identified because they signed confidentiality agreements.
They said it was a five-week project filmed at Culver Studios, which 70 years ago was the set for the classic film "Gone With the Wind." Four sets were constructed for Jackson's production, including a cemetery recalling his 1983 "Thriller" video.
With 3D technology "the audience would have felt like they were visiting the 'Thriller' experience, like they were there," Pace said.
Shooting for the project lasted from June 1-9, with Jackson on the set most days. The project was in post-production, at the time of Jackson's death, and had been expected to be completed next month. It was not immediately clear what would be made of the video footage now.
Producer Robb Wagner, founder of music-video company Stimulated Inc., did not immediately return a message seeking comment on the project.
Michael Roth, a spokesman for Jackson's Los Angeles-based promoter AEG Live, said he hadn't heard about the production but did not rule that it could be part of the company's contract with the entertainer.
According to one of the people with knowledge of the project, a willow-thin, pallid Jackson left a memorable impression on the crew, arriving in a caravan of SUVs with hulking security guards in tow. The person said Jackson introduced himself to workers on the set and walked with a spring in his step but at one point needed assistance as he descended steps off a stage.
Besides the cemetery, one set was draped in black with an oversized portrait of Jackson in his "Thriller" werewolf costume. Another set was designed to simulate a lush jungle, and a fourth was built to replicate a construction site, with a screen in the back to allow projection of different backgrounds.
Taping took place in marathon sessions ending early in the morning. One scene filmed on the construction site set included scantily clad male dancers wearing carpenter's belts.
According to Stimulated's Web site, the company was hired to produce screen content for Jackson's planned comeback concerts in London. Stimulated has worked with Def Leppard and the Pussycat Dolls, and produced content for the Academy Awards and the Emmys.
http://askville.amazon.com/Dome-Project ... d=54775933 (http://askville.amazon.com/Dome-Project-Michael-Jackson-finish-died/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=54775933)
Sources: http://www.q13fox.com/news/nationworld/ ... 8989.story (http://www.q13fox.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-us-jackson-video-project,0,6368989.story) (page not found :? , may be the project must still be hush-hush because Michael's busy finishing it 8-) )
Jackson in his “Thriller” werewolf costume….
Could it be that this bloody shirt is a part of a costume which is used in one of the settings of the Dome Project? Did Michael wear it in a setting? The project was secretive and that’s why the shirt wasn’t investigated because confidentiality agreements were signed, which fits in the hoax.
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Is this really a blood stain :? ?
It looks like a paint...