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Title: TIAI January 27
Post by: Yambo3003 on January 26, 2011, 10:20:24 PM
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NLT (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2018:27&version=NLT)

 Luke 18:27 (New Living Translation)

 27 He replied, “What is impossible for people is possible with God.”
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: bec on January 26, 2011, 10:25:25 PM
Thanks TS  :)
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: 2good2btrue on January 26, 2011, 10:36:59 PM
Thankyou TS...with God, anything is possible, if you just believe. ;)
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: MJonmind on January 26, 2011, 10:39:31 PM
I totally believe there's a God element to this whole thing! But what exactly seems or is impossible-- that Eliza can still have another day in court, that more MJ fans will believe he's alive, that MJ can BAM without the world turning ugly at him again? We already know that MJ hoaxing his death, and pulling off a fake Murray courtroom drama, and having a host of people carrying out his wishes for the hoax is possible, and is happening!
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: RK on January 26, 2011, 10:43:01 PM
Thanks TS. All things are possible to him who believes. Eliza's story is not over yet. The new living translation makes me think of all Elvis/Jesse would of had to come to terms with in his new living identity.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 26, 2011, 10:43:47 PM
It reminds me of this quote;
"God is the light and shows us the way, for there is nothing that God cannot do"
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on January 26, 2011, 10:45:24 PM
I believe; yes I do.

Thank you TS.

Peace
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: bec on January 26, 2011, 11:12:22 PM
TS, this is why Michael wore the 777 shirt isn't it. So he was "with god" when he completed the final stage of the Illusion.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: PrincessMuffybear on January 26, 2011, 11:14:22 PM
Amen.

Thank you TS.  :)
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: nick_93 on January 26, 2011, 11:40:53 PM
Thank you TS, this just even further strengthens my faith in this hoax. I really don't understand how people can lose faith through such elementary things. TS obviously knows what he's talking about, he gives sufficient evidence in his statements yet some people still struggle to beLIEve. That's why this new redirect should give everyone faith. If the final sentence of the last update wasn't enough with "KEEP THE FAITH NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!!" then surely this has to be enough for people to just know they have to hang in when times get tough. I'm not even that religious but I can see how significant it all is to the hoax so for people who can't comprehend some things: it IS possible with God and just keep that faith! :D
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: GodhaschosenMJ on January 27, 2011, 12:58:17 AM
Quote from: "nick_93"
Thank you TS, this just even further strengthens my faith in this hoax. I really don't understand how people can lose faith through such elementary things. TS obviously knows what he's talking about, he gives sufficient evidence in his statements yet some people still struggle to beLIEve. That's why this new redirect should give everyone faith. If the final sentence of the last update wasn't enough with "KEEP THE FAITH NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!!" then surely this has to be enough for people to just know they have to hang in when times get tough. I'm not even that religious but I can see how significant it all is to the hoax so for people who can't comprehend some things: it IS possible with God and just keep that faith! :D
Yes Nick, very well said! I believe the Elvis case is not over yet! God can do what man cannot do! And when everything looks hopeless, that is when God will step in and show HIS power! God believes in revealing TRUTH! The TRUTH will prevail!! We are being tested in our faith, never give up, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!! LOVE IT!
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 27, 2011, 01:13:16 AM
I like this redirect very much as I truly believe what is impossible for people is perfectly possible with God.
It's good to remember this from time to time, even if Michael might be dead for real....... :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

... what do we have here after all...?
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: nick_93 on January 27, 2011, 03:57:41 AM
Quote from: "GodhaschosenMJ"
Quote from: "nick_93"
Thank you TS, this just even further strengthens my faith in this hoax. I really don't understand how people can lose faith through such elementary things. TS obviously knows what he's talking about, he gives sufficient evidence in his statements yet some people still struggle to beLIEve. That's why this new redirect should give everyone faith. If the final sentence of the last update wasn't enough with "KEEP THE FAITH NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!!" then surely this has to be enough for people to just know they have to hang in when times get tough. I'm not even that religious but I can see how significant it all is to the hoax so for people who can't comprehend some things: it IS possible with God and just keep that faith! :D
Yes Nick, very well said! I believe the Elvis case is not over yet! God can do what man cannot do! And when everything looks hopeless, that is when God will step in and show HIS power! God believes in revealing TRUTH! The TRUTH will prevail!! We are being tested in our faith, never give up, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS!! LOVE IT!

Thank you, and you are very right! The truth WILL prevail! Remember, lies run sprints but the TRUTH runs marathons! I think people just need to take the right mindset when coming in to investigate something like this. I can appreciate people questioning things but you can't lose faith over elementary things. A lot of this hoax from what we know is about beLIEving and we've just got to have faith and look back on everything we know when times get tough. I feel sorry for people when I see their posts full of doubt, you've gotta have faith. There's some smart people on here who have found some very valuable facts about the hoax, and a lot has been confirmed too by someone like TS who is quite clearly in the know. It goes in general life too, you've gotta have a little faith in yourself and people need to have some faith in this hoax too because the truth WILL prevail - no matter what happens!
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: sailya on January 27, 2011, 04:23:41 AM
Thank you, TS.
I DO BELIEVE IN GOD.
Yes, let's "keep the FAITH no matter what happens".

I LOVE YOU ALL & GOD BLESS :)
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 27, 2011, 04:44:37 AM
Faith is something that isn't supposed to be based on any sort of evidence. Faith is just faith that something is true without any research.
Faith is fitted to use when it comes to God.... I have faith in God.....
And I can only hope His plans with Michael are just the way we think.... because not even Michael can't make his own plans work without God
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: Sarahli on January 27, 2011, 05:31:13 AM
I adore this redirect.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: newoldfan on January 27, 2011, 05:35:23 AM
Quote from: "Yambo3003"
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2018:27&version=NLT

 Luke 18:27 (New Living Translation)

 27 He replied, “What is impossible for people is possible with God.”

 This is so true. God is in everything including each and everyone of us. If we act from the heart and with love WE can make anything possible.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: nick_93 on January 27, 2011, 06:34:37 AM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Faith is something that isn't supposed to be based on any sort of evidence. Faith is just faith that something is true without any research.
Faith is fitted to use when it comes to God.... I have faith in God.....
And I can only hope His plans with Michael are just the way we think.... because not even Michael can't make his own plans work without God

Well some people rely on the Bible as evidence for their faith in God.
Put if you look at it your way, why have doubts over the hoax? If you have a firm belief and no doubts in God then why can't you with the hoax? There really isn't much difference.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: paula-c on January 27, 2011, 06:59:16 AM
God makes the impossible possible.
 Regarding the case of Eliza, here is a conflict of credibility, as Serenitys_Dream wrote yesterday on his website, Linda suggests that Jesse is happy with this result.
 No way I'm suggesting that Eliza is not entitled to her being recognized as the daughter of Vernon Presley, but is this really what you want Elvis or Jesse
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Serenitys_Dream wrote:

On her website, Linda suggests that Jesse is happy about this outcome.

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 12, 2011
The opposing attorney, in the court case which is scheduled for Friday 14th, has filed an affidavit this afternoon...a stumbling block to the case hopefully

SUNDAY, JANUARY 23, 2011
I have learned this afternoon that the plaintiff in the court case involving Elvis's/Jesse's DNA has announced (in the form of a poem) that she did lose the case. This is a wonderful result for Elvis's/Jesse's wishes and for his sake and for my own wishes too.

She should have listened on October 28, 2009, when Elvis/Jesse asked me to phone her and tell her to "STOP"...which I did immediately. Jesse has not been supporting her and she has not been told by him that he was going to come out.

I do know 100% that the DNA is from Elvis Presley himself. I am just so thankful that he has not been exposed through this court case.

Also, I would like to clear up one false statement that has been out there since the summer of 2008: Elvis/Jesse did not "give" the DNA to the plaintiff. She lifted it off of an envelope which he had licked in which he sent her a note. He has lick sealed all of my envelopes for the past (almost) 19 years and I would never have done such a thing.

Here is a link to the plaintiff's blog in order that everyone may visit and read her announcement:

elizapresley.blogspot.com/

MONDAY, JANUARY 24, 2011 --- UPDATE ON THE ABOVE COURT CASE
As anyone who has followed my web site will recall, I denounced the plaintiff's efforts to continue this case months ago and stated at that time that Elvis did not support her in this case. So, it should not come as a shock to anyone that the case was defeated. This is how it should have culminated. What goes around comes around.

I can tell the details of what took place on the day of the hearing in the court room. My dear friend Betty, who lives in Memphis, kept me posted on the events of the day. The following is exactly how things unfolded in the open court room:

This was scheduled to be an open court hearing with no cameras nor recorders allowed.

The plaintiff herself was not present. The only parties in attendance were the two opposing attorneys. Oddly enough the two attorneys appeared to be good friends, sitting together, visiting, laughing and talking. When the case was finally called, the attorneys asked the judge for the case to be heard in the judges private chambers. With that the judge, the two attorneys and the court recorder retired to the judges chambers. This alone should indicate that something which was not to be known to the public was to be discussed and decided.

Also, something else of interest is that the Court Docket has not yet been updated to show the outcome of the case. Normally, in the past, all events have been posted to the court docket very soon after taking place. It has now been 7 business days and still there is nothing added on the docket indicating what took place on the 14th.

I have heard rumors about why the case was dismissed but I will report nothing until it is confirmed officially. I will say, though, that if the reason I have heard is true then there would have been absolutely no reason for the case being heard in the judges chambers, there would be no reason for the delay in posting it to the court docket, and there would be no reason for the plaintiff to have worded her announcement of defeat in such a final way as she would have had other recourses of continued action.

I state the above in order that you may all understand how enormous the challenge of going against Elvis's own wishes was. Thus, the bitterness expressed by the plaintiff toward him in her announcement of her loss of the case.
http://lindahoodsigmontruth.com/page57
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 27, 2011, 08:58:17 AM
Thank you, TS- this redirect was like a breath of fresh air.

One of the major arguments of non- believers is that they disregard any evidence by saying, "it's just not possible." When you lay out facts after facts, coincidences after coincidences, clues after clues... their answer always comes back to the impossibility of Michael 1-being alive and 2 "having done this (hoax)."
I'm not even getting into what happens when you bring Elvis into it all- as all you other soldiers know what I'm talking about!

Well- as TS points out- all things are possible if you have the right powers with you. This reminds me of a tweet by Teddy the other day, where he expressed gratitude for having the right people in his corner.
And Michael has come through so much- how was that possible unless God was with him?

As for the second point: I don't think anyone can now what motivated Michael- until he reveals all the facts. I do think it's impossible he did this lightly- I am sure he hates to put his family and fans through this pain. But, I believe he knew it had to be done and so things were made possible - with God and through his faith.
All we need to do is keep a portion of this faith within us. It's difficult at times, but I'm sure it's so much harder on Michael.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: MyNameIsLegion on January 27, 2011, 09:02:16 AM
Quote from: "newoldfan"
If we act from the heart and with love WE can make anything possible.
Indeed!

I don't know why but the first thing I thought about was an old saying
God helps those who help themselves
Perhaps that's because I'm an atheist. Perhaps I just hate feeling useless.

Dear TS, please tell us HOW CAN WE HELP?
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: fordtocarr on January 27, 2011, 09:06:41 AM
Okay...I'm missing the post here from TS...or does TS have a different name?  Why are you all thanking TS?  I don't see any post from a TS....
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: PureLove on January 27, 2011, 10:24:36 AM
Quote from: "Yambo3003"
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2018:27&version=NLT

 Luke 18:27 (New Living Translation)

 27 He replied, “What is impossible for people is possible with God.”

On the 27th, the 27th passage is so appropriate and beautiful. Let's pray God to be on our side and anything can happen, everything is possible. Thank you for this redirect TS. God bless you.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: Andrea on January 27, 2011, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Yambo3003"
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2018:27&version=NLT

 Luke 18:27 (New Living Translation)

 27 He replied, “What is impossible for people is possible with God.”

On the 27th, the 27th passage is so appropriate and beautiful. Let's pray God to be on our side and anything can happen, everything is possible. Thank you for this redirect TS. God bless you.

Someone on the guest forum also pointed out that today, January 27th, is the 27th anniversary of the Pepsi fire...so that's 3 27's...or 3 9's as 2+7=9...999.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 27, 2011, 11:35:38 AM
Quote from: "MyNameIsLegion"
Quote from: "newoldfan"
If we act from the heart and with love WE can make anything possible.
Indeed!

I don't know why but the first thing I thought about was an old saying
God helps those who help themselves
Perhaps that's because I'm an atheist. Perhaps I just hate feeling useless.

Dear TS, please tell us HOW CAN WE HELP?

MynameisLegion I couldn't help noticing your username - I hope it doesn't have that biblical meaning.......yes God usually helps those who help themselves .....
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: GINAFELICIA on January 27, 2011, 11:42:20 AM
Quote from: "nick_93"
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Faith is something that isn't supposed to be based on any sort of evidence. Faith is just faith that something is true without any research.
Faith is fitted to use when it comes to God.... I have faith in God.....
And I can only hope His plans with Michael are just the way we think.... because not even Michael can't make his own plans work without God

Well some people rely on the Bible as evidence for their faith in God.
Put if you look at it your way, why have doubts over the hoax? If you have a firm belief and no doubts in God then why can't you with the hoax? There really isn't much difference.

There really is a huge difference.......unfortunatelly.
Doesn't matter that I can not fully believe he is alive as long as I can not fully believe he is dead.
I want you all to be right
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on January 27, 2011, 01:13:48 PM
Lately I have been doing alot of reading, watching videos, catching up on the threads I missed before. I am almost coming up on the 1 year mark that I joined this forum. I don't want for this to seem as if I am tooting my horn and truly I am not but not one time have I had a doubt about any of this adventure aka hoax being blessed, destined and ordained aka annointed by God.

I have been logging off of the forum before the redirects get posted so I usually see them the next day however with this particular redirect I have a story to share.

Last night when my daughter came home I was having a conversation with her about Eliza, Elvis/Jesse and Michael. It went sorta like I explained the DNA, the fact that I am adopted and I relate with Eliza in that sense, and then I explained the outcome so far of her case. I explained to her what I thought was happening, TPTB trying to interfer with this case, etc.

I knew in my heart that this was not the end. I have only posted info lately from Linda as her explanations and opinions, I had not formed an opinion of this being over. My final words to my daughter about this scenerio where something on the lines of what TS stated before:
 
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However, for those of us who do believe in God—which includes Jesse/Elvis, Linda, Eliza, and of course MJ (as well as many on the hoax forums)—they all recognize that God is bigger and more powerful than all the people and all the money in the world combined! Therefore, if God wants the general public to know the truth about Elvis, and/or MJ: then nobody and nothing is going to stop it.

I then went to thisisalsoit and this redirect confirmed what I had just said to my daughter. Please don't lose faith people, it will get greater later.

Peace
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on January 27, 2011, 01:39:44 PM
"Nothings real, but all is possible if God is on my side" :D

Thank you TS.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: navibl on January 27, 2011, 04:27:54 PM
I believe the problem with non believers is that they don't see and can't understand the spiritual implications of what is happening.  I believe years ago God gave Michael a revelation and that is when his music started to change and become a message to the world, not just to religious people.  Infact most relgious people don't get this because they don't believe Michael is a Christian, and most do not understand the concept that Chrsitianity is not a religion, it is a relationship given to us by Jesus Christ to our precious loving Heavenly Father.

Michael understood this and allowed God to reveal his plan for the world.  This was the case with many great men of the Bible.  Abraham, Moses, Joseph, John the Baptist...they all were given a plan by God to reveal to the world in their day what would take place to bring about great change in their Land.

In this case it is the coming of Jesus Christ.  We know not the day nor the hour but we know the seasons and according to Gods word, we are facing those times now, and it will began to escillate.  Michael sang Keep your Head up to the Sky. and I wish Love would come today, I know it's coming soon.  Kiiling the life in the birds and the trees.....Look at all the reports of Birds just falling dead out of the sky for no appearant reason, THAT is not normal...and it is not species population die off.  They die in their own habitat when that occurs.

Terrible things are happening in our world, and Michael's speaking of saving the planet I believe is US, Changing our hearts and minds and giving them to God so that we can be protected and ready when the time comes. Many can't  comprehend in their natural minds what is taking place with Michael because it is divinely inspired by God and mans ways are not God's ways. So what seems impossible with man is VERY  possible with God.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: MsTrinity333 on January 27, 2011, 07:38:05 PM
I needed this today...<3
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: ignisaeternus on January 27, 2011, 08:53:44 PM
Lets look at the verses around the one pointed out:
Luke 18:24- 18:29
24 When Jesus saw this,[d] he said, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the Kingdom of God! 25 In fact, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!”

 26 Those who heard this said, “Then who in the world can be saved?”

 27 He replied, “What is impossible for people is possible with God.”

 28 Peter said, “We’ve left our homes to follow you.”

 29 “Yes,” Jesus replied, “and I assure you that everyone who has given up house or wife or brothers or parents or children, for the sake of the Kingdom of God, 30 will be repaid many times over in this life, and will have eternal life in the world to come.”
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: Supervision on January 27, 2011, 10:06:44 PM
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by MyNameIsLegion
 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:02 am

Gee,MY name is  Legion,  :o
 LOL, when I first  read your user  name here , it scared the #@$#44 out of me for real :lol:
I guess it may perhaps  make sense since you also state that   you are an atheist and the particular  name Legion/Satan per NT of the Christian Bible,  may be like a joke to you perhaps.
 . but , Gee, nevertheless you did scare the BE Jesus  ....out of me . :lol:
.what a scary  pick of a  user name : :? ... :?  ;)
Peace.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: Supervision on January 27, 2011, 10:18:59 PM
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by navibl » Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:27 pm
Infact most relgious people don't get this because they don't believe Michael is a Christian, and most do not understand the concept that Navibl wrote:
Many can't comprehend in their natural minds what is taking place with Michael because it is divinely inspired by God and mans ways are not God's ways. So what seems impossible with man is VERY possible with God.
God is in Control, and I say Amen to that. :D
Peace.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: onemoretime on January 27, 2011, 10:34:57 PM
The passage is about justice and faith and not to lose courage. A parable of a judge is used in the original text who finally decides to get a woman justice, but was unfair in his judgement before.
The judgement in Eliza's case seemed devastating for her, yet it may have been necessary for Elvis' safety as a Federal Agent, and his enemies not to be able to find his location easily with all the personal difficulties involved for him and his family.
She may have wanted too much and gone a little bit too far. Elvis had not given her permission to use his DNA (licking the envelope) for a court trial in which he was afraid of being exposed and forced to have his life plan destroyed. She was asked (by him) to stop and didn't. It is a delicate situation for a "dead" person to have to deal with court proceedings. The court's refusal to deal with the case should have been known from the start. Lawyers should be familiar with it one would assume.
One day justice will be procured for her as well in another way not yet revealed, in a form not dangerous for the one and satisfactory for the other which could be a fair solution.
He certainly has saved many lives by his work undercover and needs protection in return.
As you can't always "get what you want" in life, she might get what she "needs" at another time in her life and will understand "God's plan" afterwards.
It is difficult to judge in a case like this and we don't know the reasoning behind it.
Both rights have to be counterbalanced and the outcome has to be taken into account.
Broken dreams for many of us, too. How great it would have been to know Elvis being alive and officially documented by a court ruling. Again, if we still don't lose faith, we'll have to wait and hope for better news in the future.
The DNA is not disputed as invalid, which is good news.
Of course I would have liked Eliza to win the case (if Elvis had agreed to it), but it was not meant to be.
What has to happen to diminish the danger for him to reappear (he may prefer to stay in hiding)?
The same applies to Michael.
Rebbie's words give a glimpse of hope when she says all will be revealed in the coming weeks.

The redirect can be understood to give hope in a time of despair when men are at their wits' end and see no light at the end of the tunnel, although the light exists.
The answer to the question of Jesus' listeners "Who can be saved?" is given by Jesus: "Those things that are impossible on man's part are possible with God."
In court and on the high seas one is in God's hands is used as a proverb.
If something is in God's hands, it is beyond our control and fate will decide the outcome.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: lynnandsofee on January 27, 2011, 10:38:17 PM
Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Thankyou TS...with God, anything is possible, if you just believe. ;)
Oh my gosh, I love this picture...do you know where I can buy it ?
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: MyNameIsLegion on January 28, 2011, 03:34:36 AM
Quote from: "Supervision"

Gee,MY name is  Legion,  :o
 LOL, when I first  read your user  name here , it scared the #@$#44 out of me for real :lol:
I guess it may perhaps  make sense since you also state that   you are an atheist and the particular  name Legion/Satan per NT of the Christian Bible,  may be like a joke to you perhaps.
 . but , Gee, nevertheless you did scare the BE Jesus  ....out of me . :lol:
.what a scary  pick of a  user name : :? ... :?  ;)
Peace.

 :shock: ...
Dear friend, please don't be alarmed by my username!
Yes, I don't believe in God (like many others in the modern world) and I don't believe in Satan too.  I believe that action is more effective than prayer, hence my question – how can we help?
No disrespect intended toward those who are religious.
IMHO, we must join forces – atheists and religious people – all of us
to fight for Good, Justice and Freedom – this is Michael Jackson's message. THIS IS IT!

Note: “My Name Is Legion” is a novel telling the story of a private investigator.

Peace and Good luck to everyone!
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: MissG on January 28, 2011, 06:12:55 AM
Quote from: "MyNameIsLegion"
Yes, I don't believe in God (like many others in the modern world) and I don't believe in Satan too.  I believe that action is more effective than prayer, hence my question – how can we help?
:D

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IMHO, we must join forces – atheists and religious people – all of us
to fight for Good, Justice and Freedom – this is Michael Jackson's message
:D  :D

*sings- you are not aloooneeeee....*
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: MJhasSpoken on January 28, 2011, 06:13:15 AM
Quote from: "MyNameIsLegion"
Quote from: "Supervision"

Gee,MY name is  Legion,  :o
 LOL, when I first  read your user  name here , it scared the #@$#44 out of me for real :lol:
I guess it may perhaps  make sense since you also state that   you are an atheist and the particular  name Legion/Satan per NT of the Christian Bible,  may be like a joke to you perhaps.
 . but , Gee, nevertheless you did scare the BE Jesus  ....out of me . :lol:
.what a scary  pick of a  user name : :? ... :?  ;)
Peace.

 :shock: ...
Dear friend, please don't be alarmed by my username!
Yes, I don't believe in God (like many others in the modern world) and I don't believe in Satan too.  I believe that action is more effective than prayer, hence my question – how can we help?
No disrespect intended toward those who are religious.
IMHO, we must join forces – atheists and religious people – all of us
to fight for Good, Justice and Freedom – this is Michael Jackson's message. THIS IS IT!

Note: “My Name Is Legion” is a novel telling the story of a private investigator.

Peace and Good luck to everyone!

I guess we help by what you said here (in bold)...time will tell.  :)
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: paula-c on January 28, 2011, 10:06:30 AM
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onemoretime wrote:

The passage is about justice and faith and not to lose courage. A parable of a judge is used in the original text who finally decides to get a woman justice, but was unfair in his judgement before.
The judgement in Eliza's case seemed devastating for her, yet it may have been necessary for Elvis' safety as a Federal Agent, and his enemies not to be able to find his location easily with all the personal difficulties involved for him and his family.
She may have wanted too much and gone a little bit too far. Elvis had not given her permission to use his DNA (licking the envelope) for a court trial in which he was afraid of being exposed and forced to have his life plan destroyed. She was asked (by him) to stop and didn't. It is a delicate situation for a "dead" person to have to deal with court proceedings. The court's refusal to deal with the case should have been known from the start. Lawyers should be familiar with it one would assume.
One day justice will be procured for her as well in another way not yet revealed, in a form not dangerous for the one and satisfactory for the other which could be a fair solution.
He certainly has saved many lives by his work undercover and needs protection in return.
As you can't always "get what you want" in life, she might get what she "needs" at another time in her life and will understand "God's plan" afterwards.
It is difficult to judge in a case like this and we don't know the reasoning behind it.
Both rights have to be counterbalanced and the outcome has to be taken into account.
Broken dreams for many of us, too. How great it would have been to know Elvis being alive and officially documented by a court ruling. Again, if we still don't lose faith, we'll have to wait and hope for better news in the future.
The DNA is not disputed as invalid, which is good news.
Of course I would have liked Eliza to win the case (if Elvis had agreed to it), but it was not meant to be.
What has to happen to diminish the danger for him to reappear (he may prefer to stay in hiding)?
The same applies to Michael.
Rebbie's words give a glimpse of hope when she says all will be revealed in the coming weeks.

The redirect can be understood to give hope in a time of despair when men are at their wits' end and see no light at the end of the tunnel, although the light exists.
The answer to the question of Jesus' listeners "Who can be saved?" is given by Jesus: "Those things that are impossible on man's part are possible with God."
In court and on the high seas one is in God's hands is used as a proverb.
If something is in God's hands, it is beyond our control and fate will decide the outcome.onemoretime
 

I agree with your post, you are seeing both sides of the coin, I also feel sorry for Eliza but we know that is what you really want Elvis or Jesse?. Maybe if Eliza would have handled this case in a more discreet the result would be another
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on January 28, 2011, 10:21:39 AM
Quote from: "onemoretime"
The passage is about justice and faith and not to lose courage. A parable of a judge is used in the original text who finally decides to get a woman justice, but was unfair in his judgement before.
The judgement in Eliza's case seemed devastating for her, yet it may have been necessary for Elvis' safety as a Federal Agent, and his enemies not to be able to find his location easily with all the personal difficulties involved for him and his family.
She may have wanted too much and gone a little bit too far. Elvis had not given her permission to use his DNA (licking the envelope) for a court trial in which he was afraid of being exposed and forced to have his life plan destroyed. She was asked (by him) to stop and didn't. It is a delicate situation for a "dead" person to have to deal with court proceedings. The court's refusal to deal with the case should have been known from the start. Lawyers should be familiar with it one would assume.
One day justice will be procured for her as well in another way not yet revealed, in a form not dangerous for the one and satisfactory for the other which could be a fair solution.
He certainly has saved many lives by his work undercover and needs protection in return.
As you can't always "get what you want" in life, she might get what she "needs" at another time in her life and will understand "God's plan" afterwards.
It is difficult to judge in a case like this and we don't know the reasoning behind it.
Both rights have to be counterbalanced and the outcome has to be taken into account.
Broken dreams for many of us, too. How great it would have been to know Elvis being alive and officially documented by a court ruling. Again, if we still don't lose faith, we'll have to wait and hope for better news in the future.
The DNA is not disputed as invalid, which is good news.
Of course I would have liked Eliza to win the case (if Elvis had agreed to it), but it was not meant to be.
What has to happen to diminish the danger for him to reappear (he may prefer to stay in hiding)?
The same applies to Michael.
Rebbie's words give a glimpse of hope when she says all will be revealed in the coming weeks.

The redirect can be understood to give hope in a time of despair when men are at their wits' end and see no light at the end of the tunnel, although the light exists.
The answer to the question of Jesus' listeners "Who can be saved?" is given by Jesus: "Those things that are impossible on man's part are possible with God."
In court and on the high seas one is in God's hands is used as a proverb.
If something is in God's hands, it is beyond our control and fate will decide the outcome.


Excellent post!  Very well said.  I agree with all you've expressed here.  Blessings.
Title: Re: TIAI January 27
Post by: taty_2crazy on January 28, 2011, 10:50:16 AM
Quote from: "Yambo3003"
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2018:27&version=NLT

 Luke 18:27 (New Living Translation)

 27 He replied, “What is impossible for people is possible with God.”

Thanx TS  with God on my side  everything is possible. :)
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