Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => The Redirects => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => TIAI ~ 2011 => Topic started by: mjssoulmate on January 30, 2011, 10:18:04 PM
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viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17623#p301361 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17623#p301361)
The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out over to the audience for 'Beat It.'
I found this part very important as well. It summarizes the hoax. The hoax is an illusion, Michael disappeared ("died") suddenly but he is going to rise up (Resurrect), and appear (BAM) suddenly. And the audience is us, his Army of LOVE; we will begin to Beat IT (NWO/ Killuminati) with his command!
how she can be at events with the jacksons and the jacksons must all know what she is doing and they seem quite happy about it this is confusing
This is another very important sign that the Jacksons are all very aware of what's going on. They never said anything about Pearl's book or they never said any anti hoax thing when Teddy Riley was talking about the hoax. Even when Taj and Teddy were fighting on Twitter, Taj only accused him about the fake songs but never wrote anything about Teddy's "belief" about Michael being alive. It is so open and clear that the Jacksons KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON and they knew if they talked anti-hoax that would hurt believers and cause losing our hope, so they prefer to say nothing about it.
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How funny is that? I just replied to that part of the illusion in the 1/30 redirect thread... Then I saw this one.
I was just saying that I agree- the Illusion in TII and what is going on now are connected- disappearance on the bed, then reappearing on stage (which of course, now that I think about it was resurrection in TII)- and hopefully soon BAM.
And yes, I wish some non-believers would finally pick up on this: They all rant and rave about how come the Jacksons are "selling Michael out" etc. It is so frustrating! All they have to do is look at it from a slightly different perspective and they will see the ONLY thing that makes sense. That they are in on it. Which invalidates the Nr 1 argument non-believers have against the hoax: that Michael would not do this, letting his family think he is dead. Well, right on! He would not- and he did not. And once you look at it from that perspective- it all falls into place.
Thank you, TS, for making it even clearer! Many blessings to you and thank you for all your patience.
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I agree with PureLove and I had a feeling it would be today's redirect. I also believe we won't have to wait much longer for the bam-part of the hoax. But that will only be the end of the illusion, and the beginning of the battle. Back to life, back to reality. This is just to wake people up, the rest has yet to start. Besides the obvious, I wonder what Mike expects from us after the bam. Does he want us to teach others? Explain them why we were here all this time? That's already documented and for everyone to see. If he bams that doesn't mean we all know everything, so we would still be explaining our thoughts, whether they are right or not.
Will Mike explain everything when he bams? Then there is no need for us to explain. I hope you get what I mean because my head is so full lately trying to connect those frickin' dots and dates and clues that I have difficulties making sense lately. What does he expect us to do on his command other than what we are already doing? He obviously has plans for after the bam and I can't wait to hear them. I get the feeling we have been going in circles lately. Hoax clues, fake court case, we al know he is alive and I am ready to 'beat it', in whatever way, but first I guess the rest of the world needs to be too and I thing the trial will be of importance in that.
Anything you could redirect to that will bring some light to that TS?
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Geez Louise!!
We've got hoax people recording video outside the court building amongst other media setups. All done in plain sight and still people are not questioning this? Especially the media present. What's it gonna take to wake people up? Michael we need you to BAM to blow this stupor of complacency and passivity of thought out of the water. Private RK informed, armed with truth and waiting for your command signing off.
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Just who is Dirty Diana who seduces him into her bed, so that he will disappear to reappear on the cherry picker to then "Beat it", beat the Illuminati (who represent those who would exploit and enslave mankind, and trace back to Nimrod and the tower of Babel), much like in Billie Jean where he also climbs into the bed to vanish into thin air and reappears as invisible but everything he touches lights up ("I'm the light of the world, I feel grand"). I know there has been lots of discussion on the Visions thread about Diana the Goddess, and I'm wondering if she ties in to the woman in scarlet in the Pepsi dream commercial, who ties in to the Mystery Babylon harlot of Revelation 17 and 18. Here is a short exerpt of that;
Revelation 17:3-8 (King James Version)
3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS (seducing every man)AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Here is just a quick search of Diana. She also ties in to the Statue of Liberty.
http://legalbears.com/academy/tag/mystery-babylon/
“But of the existence of a goddess of fortifications, everyone knows that there is the amplest evidence. That goddess is Cybele, who is universally represented with a mural or TURRETED CROWN, OR WITH A FORTIFICATION ON HER HEAD. Why was Rhea or Cybele thus represented? Ovid . . . says, why the STATUE OF CYBELE WORE A CROWN OF TOWERS was, `because she first erected them in cities.’ The first city in the world after the flood (from whence the commencement of the world itself was often dated) that had towers and encompassing walls was BABYLON; and Ovid himself tells us that it was SEMIRAMIS, the first queen of that city, who was believed to have `surrounded Babylon with a wall of brick.’ Semiramis, then, the first DEIFIED QUEEN of that city and TOWER [the Tower of Babel] whose top was intended to reach unto heaven, must have been the PROTOTYPE of the goddess who `first made towers in cities’” (p.30).
Diana of the Ephesians was this same dame — the goddess of towers — the original Semiramis, wife of Nimrod. Says Hislop,
“When we look at the Ephesian Diana, we find evidence to the very same effect. . . the Epesian Diana . . . was represented with all the attributes of the MOTHER OF THE GODS, and, as the Mother of the gods, she wore a TURRETED CROWN, such as no one can contemplate without being forcibly reminded of the TOWER OF BABEL. Now this TOWER-BEARING DIANA is by an ancient scholiast expressly identified with SEMIRAMIS. When, therefore, we remember that the Rhea or Cybele, the tower-bearing goddess, was, in point of fact, a Babylonian goddess, and that Semiramis, when deified, was worshipped under the name of Rhea, there will remain I think, no doubt as to the personal identify of the `godddess of fortifications” (Hislop, p.30-31).
This pagan licentious queen of vice and prostitution, infamous for her flagrant wanton spirit, was the original “tower woman.” The very same goddess, known as Ashtoreth, which is cognately related to Ishtar and Astarte, the “Queen of Heaven” and “Mother of God” of the pagans, the original “Madonna” and “Celestial Virgin” (although she was no virgin!), was the pagan prototype of the “Virgin Mary” or “Madonna” of the Roman Catholic Church.
“Tower Woman”
The name “Ashtoreth” itself contains the syllable “tor” [tau resh, or TR in Hebrew] which means “to be round,” or to “surround,” suggesting a structure of a wall, or turret. “Ash-turrit” literally means the “woman that made the encompasing wall,” and the “tor” in Ashtoreth can signify “tower.” In other words, Ashtoreth, Ishtar, or our modern EASTER or Eas-tor literally means TOWER WOMAN!
Does this description really fit the “Statue of Liberty” towering on an island in New York harbor, at the mouth of the Hudson River?
The Babylonian heritage of the “Statue of Liberty” should come as no real surprise to YHWH’s people. Her identity is written in her shape. She stands on a base patterned after the Babylonian stepped-pyramids, or zigurrats, of old — which themselves were designed by the “tower” woman Semiramis and her architects. She stands literally on a base patterned after the tower of Babel! She wears a turreted crown, like Rhea, Cybele, Diana, and the pagan goddesses who were counterparts of Semiramis. She stands as a universal symbol of “liberty,” apart from the laws and commandments of YHWH. She represents the “emanicpation” of mankind, and “immigration” and “unity” and the coming together of many races to become one universal mankind, all peoples coming together to one land, uniting the nations as “one,” with one language.
This is exactly what ancient Nimrod and Semiramis tried to do at the original “Tower of Babel,” but El-Shaddai defeated their attempt by scattering the nations and confounding their languages (Gen.11:1-9).
A New Look at the “Statue of Liberty”
Consider for a moment: The “Statue of Liberty,” standing on Liberty Island, is one of the largest statues ever made. Its proper name is “Liberty Enlightening the World.” The statue represents a proud woman, standing on a huge pedestal, with her right arm extended, holding high a flaming torch. A turreted crown with huge spikes symbolizing the rays of the sun rests on her head. At her feet is a broken shackle symbolizing the overthrow of “tyranny.” The statue stands 151 feet in height, weighs about 100 tons, and stands on a Babylonia style tower which is 154 feet high.
In her poem “The New Colossus,” Emma Lazarus calls the “Statue of Liberty” the “Mother of Exiles.” But the truth is, she is the “Mother of harlots andabominations of the earth” (Rev.17:5). The liberty she promises is slavery to this world’s system.
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Geez Louise!!
We've got hoax people recording video outside the court building amongst other media setups. All done in plain sight and still people are not questioning this? Especially the media present. What's it gonna take to wake people up? Michael we need you to BAM to blow this stupor of complacency and passivity of thought out of the water. Private RK informed, armed with truth and waiting for your command signing off.
I was just thinking the same thing RK! It was actually giving me a sleepless night ruminating about it, but this redirect and your clarity, PureLove, is very much appreciated. I can't reconcile or decipher every little detail about the hoax, but a perfect peace has just come over me and I feel the power of the Holy Spirit... Hallelujah! Glory to God!
Michael is completely protected; he's planned this for a long time and he's considered every possible reaction he will receive; not everyone will heed the call or understand the BAM, just as the people did not all comprehend the messages of Ghandi or MLK or Jesus and His divinity, His resurrection, His omnipotence, but everything will unfold according to plan. MJ is doing what God wants and God's will is being revealed as it must be.
Remember the redirects: "2011 will be peaceful & bring joy to us all"; "What is impossible for people is possible with God". And TS' last update: “And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm .” (Matthew 8:26). The Lord is confirming this for me!!!
Contemplating the reactions of others, I'm reminding myself what I said on the 13th that might hold some relevance: viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17256&p=294978#p294978 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17256&p=294978#p294978)
And this is so good too (Michael's Crypt Remains Bare: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=16543&p=301162#p301162 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=16543&p=301162#p301162) :D
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Geez Louise!!
We've got hoax people recording video outside the court building amongst other media setups. All done in plain sight and still people are not questioning this? Especially the media present. What's it gonna take to wake people up? Michael we need you to BAM to blow this stupor of complacency and passivity of thought out of the water. Private RK informed, armed with truth and waiting for your command signing off.
I was just thinking the same thing RK! It was actually giving me a sleepless night ruminating about it, but this redirect and your clarity, PureLove, is very much appreciated. I can't reconcile or decipher every little detail about the hoax, but a perfect peace has just come over me and I feel the power of the Holy Spirit... Hallelujah! Glory to God!
Michael is completely protected; he's planned this for a long time and he's considered every possible reaction he will receive; not everyone will heed the call or understand the BAM, just as the people did not all comprehend the messages of Ghandi or MLK or Jesus and His divinity, His resurrection, His omnipotence, but everything will unfold according to plan. MJ is doing what God wants and God's will is being revealed as it must be.
Remember the redirects: "2011 will be peaceful & bring joy to us all"; "What is impossible for people is possible with God". And TS' last update: “And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm .” (Matthew 8:26). The Lord is confirming this for me!!!
Contemplating the reactions of others, I'm reminding myself what I said on the 13th that might hold some relevance: viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17256&p=294978#p294978 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17256&p=294978#p294978)
And this is so good too (Michael's Crypt Remaind Bare: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=16543&p=301162#p301162 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=16543&p=301162#p301162) :D
Unless they're just passed off as a couple of loonie kooks! People have been so conditioned and prepared, and mob mentality sets in and gangs up against anyone who dares to think differently. The more I talk to my son about the hoax, the more he's convinced that MJ must actually be dead, because he says the majority can't be wrong after all this time, and that we're like conspiracy theorists who are a crazy bunch. It's almost like he's covering his ears against the facts.
SoldierofLove
Michael is completely protected; he's planned this for a long time and he's considered every possible reaction he will receive; not everyone will heed the call or understand the BAM, just as the people did not all comprehend the messages of Ghandi or MLK or Jesus and His divinity, His resurrection, His omnipotence, but everything will unfold according to plan. MJ is doing what God wants and God's will is being revealed as it must be.
I totally agree, and it is amazing to watch everything unfold! :D
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http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17623#p301361
The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
'Dirty Diana' he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out over to the audience for 'Beat It.'
I found this part very important as well. It summarizes the hoax. The hoax is an illusion, Michael disappeared ("died") suddenly but he is going to rise up (Resurrect), and appear (BAM) suddenly. And the audience is us, his Army of LOVE; we will begin to Beat IT (NWO/ Killuminati) with his command!
how she can be at events with the jacksons and the jacksons must all know what she is doing and they seem quite happy about it this is confusing
This is another very important sign that the Jacksons are all very aware of what's going on. They never said anything about Pearl's book or they never said any anti hoax thing when Teddy Riley was talking about the hoax. Even when Taj and Teddy were fighting on Twitter, Taj only accused him about the fake songs but never wrote anything about Teddy's "belief" about Michael being alive. It is so open and clear that the Jacksons KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON and they knew if they talked anti-hoax that would hurt believers and cause losing our hope, so they prefer to say nothing about it.
this reminds me of jackie's single "we know what's going on." perhaps just another dot to connect to this grand masterpiece. i agree. the media can show the jacksons bicker all they want. at the end of the day they're family, and a close family at that. they all have their roles.
Besides the obvious, I wonder what Mike expects from us after the bam.
like souza i wonder about this too. i wonder if we'll ever know the whole picture. if he'll ever come out and say "yes, you guys were right about this and no, you were wrong about that."
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I think he hopes (probably not 'expects') the whole world will do as he's been saying for the last umpteen years - look in the mirror and make changes within ourselves, think for ourselves, discover our spiritual side, accept God, to make the world a better place. It really does start with each and every individual taking responsibility for themselves.
I don't think the message has ever changed, it's just the way of conveying it has got less and less subtle! But I don't expect to hear him explain it - there's no need, it's there clear enough for those with open minds and hearts.
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I've also been wondering lately what will happen after he returns and if all will be explained: all the clues and signs we've been trying to interpret, whether we've got it right or wrong or whether some of them were not connected at all. I think maybe there has to be some type of film production to explain all this in chronological order with clips from the relevant events/interviews to illustrate it all clearly. It's a lot for even us to take in so for the non-believers it would be very daunting. Unless it was explained to them in a clear documentary-style format I think they'd be lost. So complex but not when explained by the genius behind it.
As for what MJ wants from us when he returns, I think this forum will become an important archive and a place for former non-believers to visit and read up on all they missed out on throughout this adventure we've all been experiencing. We are his army and we are the wide-awake ones who realise the power and corruption that exists in our media-led society, if he pointed to us as an example then I think that's good enough, if that's all he plans for us. If he needs us to do more then we'll do it but I'm just grateful to have been on this journey and if our purpose here is then served and we got a mere nod from him in return for all our time and effort that would be fine by me. Somehow I don't think he'll have time to reveal all the usernames he's been using and answer our countless questions about whether we were right or wrong on certain issues! It would be nice but I've got a feeling he'll be busy with the next phase, it would be the end of the hoax but the beginning of something else after all. ;)
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I was touched by his words, Trustno!
God wants to make things happen anyway!
The latter redirects Ts and the progress of the trial of Murray revived the forum and people here have given up hope again.
I see that we are excited and waiting for something great and unforgettable place before the end of July.
I just hope from the bottom of my heart, we do not have any more frustration, and we are moving towards a decisive phase!
Thanks TS for a direction as informative. Once again you confirm the participation of the family and the return of Michael!
Anyway, this story must have an end ... and hopefully a very happy ending!
Blessings! :P
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I always believed in the Hoax since the beginning and that the family has known about it,But felt more reassured when ever the family did or said things,like Janet at the memorial made it a point to say"Michael LOVES you all!, He always said family FIRST,Fans second." She repeated it. Jermaine has helped a lot too,with his "slip ups." I don't think those slip ups are accidents,more like wake up calls.With this hoax it always seems when something brings you down,something else unfolds and picks you right back up. I really feel something special is taking place and maybe God himself may have a hand in it.I am looking forward to the BAM as it will certainly be a huge time for the history for the world.But I really look forward to the future after the BAM has come and gone,For I really believe that is where we will really be needed. I really want to make a difference when that time comes,we will be there.
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I posted this earlier ( or tried to, but it sat on my iPad still...sorry if it's a bit redundant as others have had similar ideas). But here it goes:
I think one thing that is expected is for us to be that stable base for Michael on a macro scale, as obviously his family is his micro support system. There will be a shit storm ( to quote LMP)- many will not understand what was going on, and I fear that after the initial craziness there will be another outcry against Michael if the reasons are not laid out. Which is why I continue to think that there was government (FBI and whoever else) to also explain.
One of the things I noticed when talking to people is that many ask, if the reason he did this was just to increase his sales. Many people have a hard time looking beyond what they think is obvious. Just like so many idiots sadly still run around making Michael Jackson and little boys jokes ( I had a carpet salesman at my house like that. Mind you, when you come to my house, you basically trip over my Opus and Michael calendar in the formal living room. Don't worry, I filed a complaint against that guy. He also made homophobic comments).
So, I think one of our tasks will be to spread the word. To tell our story. To stay calm (I have to work at that) and talk about the bigger picture. To try hard to be the bigger persons when not telling oh so many sanctimonious non-believers "told you so".. :D
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I always believed in the Hoax since the beginning and that the family has known about it,But felt more reassured when ever the family did or said things,like Janet at the memorial made it a point to say"Michael LOVES you all!, He always said family FIRST,Fans second." She repeated it. Jermaine has helped a lot too,with his "slip ups." I don't think those slip ups are accidents,more like wake up calls.With this hoax it always seems when something brings you down,something else unfolds and picks you right back up. I really feel something special is taking place and maybe God himself may have a hand in it.I am looking forward to the BAM as it will certainly be a huge time for the history for the world.But I really look forward to the future after the BAM has come and gone,For I really believe that is where we will really be needed. I really want to make a difference when that time comes,we will be there.
a while back i was reading this little book title When GOD winks at YOU. how god speaks directly to you through the power of coincidence. as my eyes happen to run across this book earlier today i had to wonder. is it possible that through all of this hoax stuff whether michael himself is behind it or is the bad guys really thought they had him , we are being made privy to the Godwinks in michael's life that will lead to at the very least the final truth about his life and hopefully to his restoration. just a random thought.
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I think he hopes (probably not 'expects') the whole world will do as he's been saying for the last umpteen years - look in the mirror and make changes within ourselves, think for ourselves, discover our spiritual side, accept God, to make the world a better place. It really does start with each and every individual taking responsibility for themselves.
I don't think the message has ever changed, it's just the way of conveying it has got less and less subtle! But I don't expect to hear him explain it - there's no need, it's there clear enough for those with open minds and hearts.
Absolutely! I have been saying this since day 1. I am not alone whew...
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The Jackson knows to everything what this happening in Internet with repecto to " dead" of Michael. Now like and when it is the aim of the illusion, that we go has to do after all this, we are going to continue each with its lives and the memory of all this experience, or we are going to be witnesses of something but great. Many people have gone away of the forum perhaps so that they lost the hopes or so that even though creem that Michael this alive one does not veran it but, others simply did not understand the message or but they listened to not yet it. As it says to Souza what is our paper in all this and that we in mendo go has to do single so great, the changes of bring back to consciousness exist in fact, are a voluntary process, after all if you want a change is necessary to generate it, like obtaining that of people? if between the same fanatics there are small wars and until hatred, they say understood that each thought, each emotion, each new one to wake up of somebody to brings back to consciousness of God elevates the vibration of the planet, that has not been obtained.
If people do not understand these things, I read somewhere that there will be summarizing the message BAM
while peace is the end and not the beginning
while combat fear with fear
while the law is the norm and not the principle
solitude while they are thousands of adjectives
as always just to get them in deep water
while liberty is a word of encyclopedias
while intelligence is written in small letters
rifles while we are all targeted
as long as society is dirt
while the order remains a rifle butt
while justice is on vacation
as we are all on bail
while military and non military says
while equality is a mathematical symbol
Do not tell me that the word used for something
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This is a long post but I do hope you all read it.
I wish I could know what Michael expected about the fans? Did he expect almost all of the fans to find out about the hoax and the message or did he think that approximately a thousand fans were going to find about it all? I mean I wonder if he is satisfied or disappointed with the result. I don't know what date he decided for the BAM but can it be he delayed it because there were not enough people who became aware of the situation? Probably the BAM was going to be back in 2010 but he postponed it because he thought that we were going to convince more people and/or more people were going to start finding out about the hoax and why he did it in another year.
The problem is, if we leave non-believers aside, most of the believers do not believe in illuminati and do not believe Michael did the hoax to wake the world up against illuminati. And most of the non-believers are on the same track with them. Everyday more people gain awareness but is it enough?
I think something more obvious was needed to make people believe that this hoax has got lots to do with illuminati BUT that would put Michael's,his beautiful kids' and family's lives in danger, so he couldn't make it more obvious. And I do not believe that he will be telling directly that he also did the hoax to rise the awareness about illuminati after he comes back. Probably he will be giving out clues with his speeches, songs and movies but that is it. I don't think he will be telling all reasons of the hoax. Maybe he will be telling about the show part of the hoax which will definitely make most of the non-believers go crazy and will be pissed off. Or probably he won't even tell about it because this would make some of the so called fans hate him. I believe that Michael is only going to say that he was threatened, his life was in danger and he needed to fake his own death. Because that is the only explanation that can be accepted by the world. Otherwise if he says that he planned this for a long time, he wanted to create a real life Thriller etc how would the world react to him? What would they think about the family? They would say: "They all lied and tricked us because Michael wanted to make a real life movie?!" Lots of people including some of the fans would definitely lose their temper. So my friends, I don't think that we will hear the reasons of the hoax directly. But probably Michael will give them out piece by piece, hidden in clues.
I think Michael would want us to spread the message to everyone, not only to fans. And I'm sure that all of us are telling the people around us about killuminati/NWO etc. But is there something else that we can do? That's what I'm thinking the most about. I want to do more, I want to give more but how? I was wondering if we could start a campaign as the Army of Love. How about every each of us, choose 5 non-believers, bring them here on the forum and tell about the hoax and the reasons by showing out what we have found? And ask them to do the same to other 5 non-believers? OR how about creating a web-page to raise the awareness about what's going on in the world? Can we do that one or would that be closed as soon as we open the web-page? I'm just thinking loudly here, please let's share our ideas about what else and more we can do about the issue?
I believe the awareness has already begun all around the world and Michael had a big impact on people. Humanity is rising up, that's for sure. But we also need to be fast, we need to unite and raise our voice as one. There is definitely going to be a battle with the evil side and our power is going to be our awareness. As much as we know WHAT'S GOING ON (just like in Jackie's song. I used the song's name on my previous post on purpose), as much as we don't allow NWO/Killuminati to use us like their puppets and we don't allow them to reach their evilish goal.
Michael put his life in danger by trying to raise the awareness about the evil side. He could sit back and watch but he didn't. And if we're the Army of Love, we shouldn't sit back and wait for him to do it all by himself. I know that we're already helping him out but we can do more. That's how I feel. All of the things Michael did needs to worth it. He did it all for all of us. We shouldn't think too much about why Michael did the hoax. Isn't it too obvious why he did it? The numerology part of the hoax is the solid proof that this hoax has got lots to do with NWO/illuminati. So I think it is needless to wait for him to come back and explain us the reasons of the hoax. We should be sure of the reasons and start/keep on telling everyone about it. People do not need to be an MJ fan, if they are living on this planet they are responsible for the future generations' lives. They have to learn the truth and we all need to stop the evil side to reach their goals. We have to make them stop sucking our bloods. We have to stop being their puppets, and with the awareness we have, we have to stop them ruining this beautiful planet.
Shortly, we have lots to do to all together my friends. The fake death was just the beginning of a Nightmare! That was the illusion, the magic. After the King rises up, the BATTLE will start and that is the MOST important thing of the whole IMPACT! Part one is over and the second part is going to be harder. We need to be strong, stable and brave. As long as we stick together, there is NO power that can defeat us. Like V says: "Strength through Unity, Unity through Faith". And like Michael says: "THE BEST IS YET TO COME!"
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Sometimes I feel like people are waiting to find out if they are on the right track. Is this what Michael wants? Maybe TS can give us some direction? (I'm totally guilty of having these thoughts at one time or another).
Bottomline, we've been guided to sources of information. We've been made aware of things in this world... good and bad. So in your own journey, what have you found out? Have you found out that the music industry is pretty corrupt? Have you found that our judicial system may not be all that fair? Have you found out that the media really controls many people's thoughts? Have you found about about the Illuminati? Have you gotten into history and realized there are many conspiracies unanswered? Have you realized that you haven't been studying for yourself and now you are?
Whatever it is, it is what YOU have found out. It is whatever has struck a chord for you. And yes this may have been MJ's endeavor... his hoax... his project.... but we have a responsibility to act on what has touched our hearts. It's through each of us making a difference in our sphere of influence that the impact of the Army of LOVE will spread.
For me, the message has been clear from day one... it's all for LOVE. Michael said it in one of his speeches, in all his travels, across time, age, race, gender, there are only two things that everyone wants: to love and be loved.
I did a talk on 1 Corinthians 13 on Saturday and confessed before about 60 people that, as much as I hate to admit it, I have not been very loving (if you look at my actions). That's why I started really studying what love is.
Love is an action word. It is not a feeling. It's a doing.
So the thing I have gotten from this whole hoax is a HUGE lesson on love, and how to love, and how to being loving and I'm sharing my testimony with as many people as I can.
This is not about pleasing Michael or TS or anyone. It's about changing your life. It's about (for those of you who believe) living your life for God in a way that is pleasing to HIM.
I encourage you to share your journey as well and really make a change... for once in your life. ;-)
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The thing I have gotten from this whole hoax is a lesson about myself :D
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PureLove I think the reasons for this hoax were other than the new world order, but this is a way to make people aware of these issues
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The thing I have gotten from this whole hoax is a lesson about myself :D
Yes! If you don't mind Gema... what have you learned about yourself?
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More than I expected ;)
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More than I expected ;)
hahahaha well thank you very much for that enlightening response! ;-p
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More than I expected ;)
hahahaha well thank you very much for that enlightening response! ;-p
:lol: :lol:
My answer could have been worst :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUElcQoPToY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUElcQoPToY)
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[youtube:128puusv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUElcQoPToY[/youtube:128puusv]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUElcQoPToY
Hopefully not like that...
[youtube:128puusv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F226lI-lo5M[/youtube:128puusv]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F226lI-lo5M
:lol:
Love to all...
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i don't know yet why...but this post made me cry..
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Just to cover all the bases :) were we also to look at the lyrics for Dirty Diana and Beat It and it's relationship to an illusion? :?
Dirty Diana
Oh No . . .
Oh No . . .
Oh No . . .
You'll Never Make Me Stay
So Take Your Weight Off Of Me
I Know Your Every Move
So Won't You Just Let Me Be
I've Been Here Times Before
But I Was Too Blind To See
That You Seduce Every Man
This Time You Won't Seduce Me
She's Saying That's Ok
Hey Baby Do What You Please
I Have The Stuff That You Want
I Am The Thing That You Need
She Looked Me Deep In The Eyes
She's Touchin' Me So To Start
She Says There's No Turnin' Back
She Trapped Me In Her Heart
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, No
Dirty Diana
Let Me Be!
Oh No . . .
Oh No . . .
Oh No . . .
She Likes The Boys In The
Band
She Knows When They Come To Town
Every Musician's Fan After
The Curtain Comes Down
She Waits At Backstage
Doors
For Those Who Have Prestige
Who Promise
Fortune And Fame, A Life
That's So Carefree
She's Saying That's Ok
Hey Baby Do What You Want
I'll Be Your Night Lovin' Thing
I'll Be The Freak You Can Taunt
And I Don't Care What You
{ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-j ... yrics.html (http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-jackson-lyrics/dirty-diana-lyrics.html) }
Say
I Want To Go Too Far
I'll Be Your Everything
If You Make Me A Star
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, No
Dirty Diana . . .
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, No
Dirty Diana . . .
Diana!
Diana!
Dirty Diana!
It's Dia . . .Aa . . .Aa . . .
Come On!
She Said I Have To Go Home
'Cause I'm Real Tired You See
But I Hate Sleepin' Alone
Why Don't You Come With
Me
I Said My Baby's At Home
She's Probably Worried
Tonight
I Didn't Call On The Phone To
Say That I'm Alright
Diana Walked Up To Me,
She Said I'm All Yours
Tonight
At That I Ran To The Phone
Sayin' Baby I'm Alright
I Said But Unlock The Door,
Because I Forgot The Key,
She Said He's Not Coming
Back
Because He's Sleeping With
Me
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, No
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana, Nah
Dirty Diana . . .
Come On!
Come On!
Come On!
Come On!...
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Beat It
Beat It lyrics
[1st Verse]
They Told Him Don't You Ever Come Around Here
Don't Wanna See Your Face, You Better Disappear
The Fire's In Their Eyes And Their Words Are Really Clear
So Beat It, Just Beat It
[2nd Verse]
You Better Run, You Better Do What You Can
Don't Wanna See No Blood, Don't Be A Macho Man
You Wanna Be Tough, Better Do What You Can
So Beat It, But You Wanna Be Bad
[Chorus]
Just Beat It, Beat It, Beat It, Beat It
No One Wants To Be Defeated
Showin' How Funky Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Right
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
Just Beat It, Beat It
[3rd Verse]
They're Out To Get You, Better Leave While You Can
Don't Wanna Be A Boy, You Wanna Be A Man
You Wanna Stay Alive, Better Do What You Can
So Beat It, Just Beat It
[4th Verse]
You Have To Show Them That You're Really Not Scared
You're Playin' With Your Life, This Ain't No Truth Or Dare
They'll Kick You, Then They Beat You,
Then They'll Tell You It's Fair
So Beat It, But You Wanna Be Bad
[Chorus]
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-j ... yrics.html (http://www.elyrics.net/read/m/michael-jackson-lyrics/beat-it-lyrics.html) ]
Just Beat It, Beat It, Beat It, Beat It
No One Wants To Be Defeated
Showin' How Funky Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Right
[Chorus]
Just Beat It, Beat It, Beat It, Beat It
No One Wants To Be Defeated
Showin' How Funky Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Right
Just Beat It, Beat It, Beat It, Beat It, Beat It
[Chorus]
Beat It, Beat It, Beat It, Beat It
No One Wants To Be Defeated
Showin' How Funky Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Right
[Chorus]
Just Beat It, Beat It, Beat It, Beat It
No One Wants To Be Defeated
Showin' How Funky Strong Is Your Fight
It Doesn't Matter Who's Wrong Or Who's Right
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I believe the whole situation is a touchy and tricky one. Those of us who believe MJ hoaxed his death AND that there is an evil egenda by a certain group that needs to be exposed are already considered fringe. In 19 months though I have talked to the people around me, and even though some have seen videos and key facts, they still after time become the biggest scoffers. Like a reflex action in their brains, "Nah my brain is playing tricks so it can be planned." I still believe that something "magical" has to happen for you to be a believer, more than just knowing things. Almost like that idea of the Indigo children, like those of us here were chosen. There only has to be several visitors from the JFMJ type side for havoc to break out on this forum, imagine even more of them--complete chaos. As for what to do as MJ's army, the tweeting for Elvis&MJ, tweeting to make trending, and efforts to support various charities, were only so-so received... I'm not sure we can do anything but what we're doing right now, just hanging in there, enjoying the adventure, supporting Michael in his 'dream' being carried out, and loving each other. KO's words, "And on his command we begin", can ony happen after he bams IMO. If MJ really wanted the hordes of fans to believe he hoaxed his death, he would have made things a lot more obvious. I believe KF is assigned to whip those fans into a frenzy. We can all continue with whatever humanitarian/caring things we are already doing in our lives, and share them here. But I emphathize with the feeling of wanting to get going to do something pro-active for MJ. The JFMJ also are trying to show love for MJ's legacy in their own way, but not wholey successful. Even now 19 months later, I am sometimes so torn as I lay awake in bed, wondering about all this. So many unanswered questions, so many different opinions and conflicting reports, and so many directions MJ might want to take us yet. All I'm doing at this point is "holding his hand"! :)
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I guess some people got my question wrong. It's not that I want to know from TS or Mike if we are on the right track, because I know we are. Details are details and less important, because we got the bigger picture. What I would like to know (and maybe we will know when the time is right) is what is expected from us after the bam. What is it that he planned and how can we be of help? That is my main question which will probably be answered in time. But whatever it is, I will be there.
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I agree with purelove! Especially that last part about the jacksons not saying anything. There's no way they don't know about the hoax, but yet none of them have addressed it. :D
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I agree with PureLove and I had a feeling it would be today's redirect. I also believe we won't have to wait much longer for the bam-part of the hoax. But that will only be the end of the illusion, and the beginning of the battle. Back to life, back to reality. This is just to wake people up, the rest has yet to start. Besides the obvious, I wonder what Mike expects from us after the bam. Does he want us to teach others? Explain them why we were here all this time? That's already documented and for everyone to see. If he bams that doesn't mean we all know everything, so we would still be explaining our thoughts, whether they are right or not.
Will Mike explain everything when he bams? Then there is no need for us to explain. I hope you get what I mean because my head is so full lately trying to connect those frickin' dots and dates and clues that I have difficulties making sense lately. What does he expect us to do on his command other than what we are already doing? He obviously has plans for after the bam and I can't wait to hear them. I get the feeling we have been going in circles lately. Hoax clues, fake court case, we al know he is alive and I am ready to 'beat it', in whatever way, but first I guess the rest of the world needs to be too and I thing the trial will be of importance in that.
Anything you could redirect to that will bring some light to that TS?
I think what Michael wants us and the rest of the world or at least his fans to see is how corrupt and manipulative the media, the tabloids and the record companies truly are. And to not trust everything that the media says, I think that is his lesson to us. And actually I believe it is God who put Michael before us to wake us up to the evilness that is of this world.
I also think for those who still believe that Michael is 'dead', there'll be a lot of shocked people, perhaps even angry people. But I believe when Michael comes back, which I think will be very soon, he'll explain it all and why he did what he did. But not everyone will understand it.
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I believe the whole situation is a touchy and tricky one. Those of us who believe MJ hoaxed his death AND that there is an evil egenda by a certain group that needs to be exposed are already considered fringe. In 19 months though I have talked to the people around me, and even though some have seen videos and key facts, they still after time become the biggest scoffers. Like a reflex action in their brains, "Nah my brain is playing tricks so it can be planned." I still believe that something "magical" has to happen for you to be a believer, more than just knowing things. Almost like that idea of the Indigo children, like those of us here were chosen. There only has to be several visitors from the JFMJ type side for havoc to break out on this forum, imagine even more of them--complete chaos. As for what to do as MJ's army, the tweeting for Elvis&MJ, tweeting to make trending, and efforts to support various charities, were only so-so received... I'm not sure we can do anything but what we're doing right now, just hanging in there, enjoying the adventure, supporting Michael in his 'dream' being carried out, and loving each other. KO's words, "And on his command we begin", can ony happen after he bams IMO. If MJ really wanted the hordes of fans to believe he hoaxed his death, he would have made things a lot more obvious. I believe KF is assigned to whip those fans into a frenzy. We can all continue with whatever humanitarian/caring things we are already doing in our lives, and share them here. But I emphathize with the feeling of wanting to get going to do something pro-active for MJ. The JFMJ also are trying to show love for MJ's legacy in their own way, but not wholey successful. Even now 19 months later, I am sometimes so torn as I lay awake in bed, wondering about all this. So many unanswered questions, so many different opinions and conflicting reports, and so many directions MJ might want to take us yet. All I'm doing at this point is "holding his hand"! :)
I agree and disagree with some parts of your post. First of, I do agree that there is something special in us that made us become believers. I don't know how I can express it but I believe that it is because we do believe in the unbelievable, and we do see the invisible. It is because we believe anything is possible. But that's not all of course. It is because we KNOW Michael so well, what his desires are, what he is capable of, what he likes to do and so on. And we are Michael likes. We think on the same frequency with him. We can imagine what he could do. This is all about understanding Michael. And this is something special, like a special bond between us and Michael.
And I have to disagree about this part.
If MJ really wanted the hordes of fans to believe he hoaxed his death, he would have made things a lot more obvious.
There are two reasons why Michael could not and did not want to make the hoax more obvious. First of, it wasn't a joke that Michael's life was and probably still is in danger. If he made things more obvious, everyone in this world would have learned about the hoax plus his enemies. I know that his enemies are everywhere and they probably heard about the hoax long time ago BUT still probably they can not be sure about it and can be thinking that we're just crazy people. If everything were more obvious, there would be no reason for them to hesitate if MJ was dead or alive. And that would put his, his kids' and family's lives in double danger. Sometimes even us hesitate about the hoax when the family speaks up about his "death" or when we see about the trial etc. If we hesitate, the enemies hesitate too. Like Teddy says: "Michael lives for controversy." And the controversy was a must for the hoax. Second of all, we all know how Michael likes the Magic. And nothing is obvious in Magic. And this is his illusion. If he did everything more obvious, there would be no mystery, no magic in it. He needed the mystery, he wanted us to learn start reading between the lines and connecting the dots. He trained us. I don't know you but I totally became a smarter person with this hoax. I started to think outside of the box, seeing things that I would never ever pay attention before. The hoax created a new me which I'm grateful to Michael for this. And any of these would have happened if he have made things more obvious.
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Thank You TS
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Michael's illusion has created an alternate reality where Michael Jackson is dead. And most chose that reality because they couldn't comprehend anything beyond that, or they just didn't care to.
The fact that the majority of the world hasn't caught on to the hoax yet basically proves Michael's point.
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Michael's illusion has created an alternate reality where Michael Jackson is dead. And most chose that reality because they couldn't comprehend anything beyond that, or they just didn't care to.
The fact that the majority of the world hasn't caught on to the hoax yet basically proves Michael's point.
Now that is food for thought. I beloved we all need to be reminded from time to time what this whole hoax is about.
Thank You.
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Gema
aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh@those two Vids!!!
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Michael's illusion has created an alternate reality where Michael Jackson is dead. And most chose that reality because they couldn't comprehend anything beyond that, or they just didn't care to.
The fact that the majority of the world hasn't caught on to the hoax yet basically proves Michael's point.
Not only has Michael created a new reality.
He was capable to not only get his contracted staff but the world dancing to his beat.
Most people are not aware of how much they lifted their feet at his command into his empire and how much they raised their voice in the tunes he ordered.
He really broke through the forth wall.
That's not 3D, that's 4D.
We are all following his storybook.
Somebody has control over us: this was never exhibited in more detail than on this journey.
Are you entertained?
Are you frightened yet?
Is it thrilling enough to keep you stuck despite you'd rather want to run away?
The world is on stage and we are watching the world being exposed.
(And so are we exposed, too.)
I like the twinkle in the eye in this roller-coaster, the laughter, the freedom of thought, the spirit of brotherhood, the feeling that it's all for good, the knowledge of our witnessing first row seat.
This is a multi-dimensional masterpiece of never before attained detail and overall impact.
This is it. Indeed. ;)
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Are you entertained?
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss :D
Are you frightened yet?
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :|
Is it thrilling enough to keep you stuck despite you'd rather want to run away?
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss :D
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There are two reasons why Michael could not and did not want to make the hoax more obvious. First of, it wasn't a joke that Michael's life was and probably still is in danger. If he made things more obvious, everyone in this world would have learned about the hoax plus his enemies. I know that his enemies are everywhere and they probably heard about the hoax long time ago BUT still probably they can not be sure about it and can be thinking that we're just crazy people. If everything were more obvious, there would be no reason for them to hesitate if MJ was dead or alive.
They [The Enemy] are narrow-minded and unimaginative, but stupid or ill-informed THEY certainly ARE NOT. They know he is alive. They are looking for him. It's so easy to kill someone who is already “dead”!!! I believe the only reason for them to not expose the hoax is because this situation suits them. (This is one possible explanation of that pitiful excuse for an investigation we witnessed. Policemen are not so-o-o-o stupid or unprofessional. They are “influenced”! And just WHO can be the first suspect for influencing and using the police and the Law-Court? We must not forget 2003 – 2005 Case!!!).
Assuming that They don't know about the hoax and this forum (or are too lazy to read it) can be dangerous.
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Just a couple of thoughts. This redirect points to a huge positive for me that Michael created an illusion, the family knows what's going on and he will return when the time is right. Souza I am with you with your question to TS. What's next for us? But now I am wondering after 2/1/11 redirect indicating redirects will not be daily. Could 1/31/11 redirect be the big redirect to let us have a little peace of mind....for now? And as for what's next for us, now I am thinking he wants us to slow down and concentrate on what's happening now and to the end of this hoax and not get a head of ourselves. I don't know, just a thought....take care, Love to All
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I was suggesting in my post TIAI January 30 that Pearl Jr might be part of the hoax but I think it was interpreted as a cynical comment. The purpose of the ebook seems to be to gather information from various sources into one reference point - a kind of overview of what's going on in the hoax and the hoax community. I don't think it's unreasonable for Pearl Jr to be reimbursed for her efforts. An indication she may be involved is that the ebook is commercial. I think Pearl Jr would have a greater awareness of copyright than most of us - so if she isn't involved in the hoax, how is she getting around some of the copyright issues? Even if she has been very careful about what she has linked to the ebook I think she would at least need a silent nod to be able to do this.
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There are two reasons why Michael could not and did not want to make the hoax more obvious. First of, it wasn't a joke that Michael's life was and probably still is in danger. If he made things more obvious, everyone in this world would have learned about the hoax plus his enemies. I know that his enemies are everywhere and they probably heard about the hoax long time ago BUT still probably they can not be sure about it and can be thinking that we're just crazy people. If everything were more obvious, there would be no reason for them to hesitate if MJ was dead or alive.
Assuming that They don't know about the hoax and this forum (or are too lazy to read it) can be dangerous.
As you quoted my post, I already wrote the enemies probably know about this web-site and the hoax. I didn't assume that they do not know about the hoax or etc. I think you need to re-read what I wrote.