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Title: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: applehead250609 on February 02, 2011, 12:53:36 PM
Hello !!!!

Here is the new video of MjHoaxEvidence!!!
Weird things  can happen  :D  inside a courtroom but this is more strange than what you call usually,  :lol:  :lol:  ;) .Enjoy !!!!



[youtube:2sg68tsv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFbovqzaMg[/youtube:2sg68tsv]

LOVE
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Guest on February 02, 2011, 01:22:09 PM
now can ppl please stop denying  there were doubles in TII :?
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: wishingstar on February 02, 2011, 01:40:51 PM
Great video...thank you for posting!
All the emphasis on toys reminds of when we saw the "toy window" at Havenhurst.....it was talked about in this thread:
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpb ... 72&t=12841 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=172&t=12841)

Wouldn't it be funny if one of the toys from that window was in the courtroom?  Or a toy from any of the miscellaneous pictures/videos from Neverland.  
The significance of each toy might have value.  I can think of a few:
white rabbit- obvious nod to Alice in Wonderland, Paris' shirt, Believe poster
elephant- the circus, pictures of Michael with elephants at Neverland
teddy bear- Elvis' song Teddy Bear  
hippopotamus- funny enough...google found a link here:
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpb ... =48&t=9028 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=9028)

Anyways........great video, thank again!
Have a great day!
Blessings Always!
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Loes on February 02, 2011, 01:54:05 PM
Yes great video.

What surprised me also was judge Pastors likes to joke a lot and they spent a lot of time on deciding a date for the trial. The judge was surprised at Murray's decision (on the date of the trial) ..  :shock:
Well I didn't know he had influence on that, but I don't think it's normal.
Another big clue that it's all a circus ...  :lol:

I start believing in doubles too now ..  :shock:

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 02, 2011, 02:55:18 PM
I want to draw attention to the two pictures that had ??? pointed to them.

One I think is a giraffe. Anyone think otherwise?  The second almost looks like 1/2 horse 1/2 woman. I remember when I was small all of the stories about circus acts and this is what it reminded me of. I can't think of what else this would be. Any ideas?
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Loes on February 02, 2011, 03:08:37 PM
It's dufficult to see. I also mentioned these 2 objects before.

Where you think of a giraffe, I see a sort of mouse ...  :D
Where you think of a horsewoman, I see a scalp ore womanshead in bronze.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: fidel on February 02, 2011, 03:17:17 PM
http://truenewszone.files.wordpress.com ... ayroom.jpg (http://truenewszone.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/playroom.jpg)

thats the funniest shit ive ever seen  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on February 02, 2011, 06:49:01 PM
I wonder if they thought they would have children in the court room, so they were ready for them  :lol:  This is the first I see all those stuffed or plastic animals. maybe they were cheering for Murray? Go Murray Go?  :lol:  I am being silly. This is a hoax, and I am sure this will be used as part of the movie. Michael you are a genius.
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: fordtocarr on February 02, 2011, 08:26:26 PM
Did I see a pic of Michael by that elephant???  I really think so...there are 3 things there...the elephant, something else, and looks like a pic of Michael.  Are they in the JURY BOX????
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: willddoMJ on February 02, 2011, 09:37:24 PM
The animals i never notice, and Murray looking @ camera and the operater :lol:  i noticed as was shown first time, Love the video.
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: scorpionchik on February 03, 2011, 12:43:10 AM
Interesting Zoo. Any idea who put them there and why? Would be useful to have also answers. All we have so far are findings, really good ones. But no answer, at least not clear and final. Good video though.
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on February 03, 2011, 01:42:04 AM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Interesting Zoo. Any idea who put them there and why? Would be useful to have also answers. All we have so far are findings, really good ones. But no answer, at least not clear and final. Good video though.


The only way we can find answer, is if any one lifes in LA can call the courts and ask why there was all those stuffed and plastic animals.. Also you can ask, since when they have such toys in a court room? I know they can tell you the answer. I cannot call since I am in Canada. I know if we call our courts they will explain. Blessings.
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Lovely One on February 03, 2011, 01:42:55 AM
Ok, now this is as bizarre as it gets. WHY would they have toys in the courtroom?
I can't even think of a logical reason. If there were only one then we could say "well,
it is for children to feel more welcome and safe..." but there are at least 6 or more
toys there!!! They made them so obvious so we would find them!
But, what do they mean?? What are the significance of them?? And, why didn't Murray
stand up while he proclaimed his innocense? Isn't that the norm in a courtroom setting?
When stating you are innocent shouldn't you stand up for the judge???

So many unanswered questions!!!!  :?
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: curls on February 03, 2011, 01:50:20 AM
Quote from: "Lovely One"
And, why didn't Murray
stand up while he proclaimed his innocense? Isn't that the norm in a courtroom setting?
When stating you are innocent shouldn't you stand up for the judge???

So many unanswered questions!!!!  :?

I don't know about the animals but I can answer your question about Murray not standing up. He did go to stand up and the judge said he could remain seated. It's on the video from the court, clear as anything.
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Lovely One on February 03, 2011, 03:25:36 AM
Quote from: "curls"
Quote from: "Lovely One"
And, why didn't Murray
stand up while he proclaimed his innocense? Isn't that the norm in a courtroom setting?
When stating you are innocent shouldn't you stand up for the judge???

So many unanswered questions!!!!  :?

I don't know about the animals but I can answer your question about Murray not standing up. He did go to stand up and the judge said he could remain seated. It's on the video from the court, clear as anything.

Oh thank you for this explanation! I guess I was too distracted by all of the other stuff to notice!
Yea, I thought that was odd!!

The stuffed animals though.....wow!
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 03, 2011, 07:56:47 AM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Interesting Zoo. Any idea who put them there and why? Would be useful to have also answers. All we have so far are findings, really good ones. But no answer, at least not clear and final. Good video though.


The only way we can find answer, is if any one lifes in LA can call the courts and ask why there was all those stuffed and plastic animals.. Also you can ask, since when they have such toys in a court room? I know they can tell you the answer. I cannot call since I am in Canada. I know if we call our courts they will explain. Blessings.

Hi - in the very beginning of the hoax people were calling and emailing businesses and people of "interest" and all it did was make them stop what they were doing. For instance, TMZ - they did not have MJ's name in the RIP section but they were hounded to death until they added his name. In the end, what did that solve? Nothing - except now MJ's name is in the RIP where it wasn't (for good reason) before. They never came out and said "oh - you got me, MJ is alive and that is why it's not there".

Just my observation but I don't think they would give us an answer (at least an honest one) as to why those toy animals are there but what it may do is force whomever to quit leaving clues for us.

We all know that is not normal for animals to be in a courtroom and we know that children are not there, so it's not to entertain them. Just my opinion but I don't think we should be calling the courts and harassing them.

Blessings.
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on February 03, 2011, 08:44:25 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Interesting Zoo. Any idea who put them there and why? Would be useful to have also answers. All we have so far are findings, really good ones. But no answer, at least not clear and final. Good video though.


The only way we can find answer, is if any one lifes in LA can call the courts and ask why there was all those stuffed and plastic animals.. Also you can ask, since when they have such toys in a court room? I know they can tell you the answer. I cannot call since I am in Canada. I know if we call our courts they will explain. Blessings.

Hi - in the very beginning of the hoax people were calling and emailing businesses and people of "interest" and all it did was make them stop what they were doing. For instance, TMZ - they did not have MJ's name in the RIP section but they were hounded to death until they added his name. In the end, what did that solve? Nothing - except now MJ's name is in the RIP where it wasn't (for good reason) before. They never came out and said "oh - you got me, MJ is alive and that is why it's not there".

Just my observation but I don't think they would give us an answer (at least an honest one) as to why those toy animals are there but what it may do is force whomever to quit leaving clues for us.

We all know that is not normal for animals to be in a courtroom and we know that children are not there, so it's not to entertain them. Just my opinion but I don't think we should be calling the courts and harassing them.

Blessings.


Very good point. thanks.
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Mammu94 on February 03, 2011, 11:57:48 AM
Wow its really weird to have toys in courtroom, i've never seen that before...
i thought that maybe its put there for us to see the parallels between Murrays trial and Michaels child molestation trial.. the toys relate to children and also Murray is acting kinda like Michael like he said he's an innocent man reminds me of Michaels statement and at the end we should all see that Michael was innocent... dont know really how to put this in english, i hope you understand
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: applehead250609 on February 03, 2011, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Interesting Zoo. Any idea who put them there and why? Would be useful to have also answers. All we have so far are findings, really good ones. But no answer, at least not clear and final. Good video though.


The only way we can find answer, is if any one lifes in LA can call the courts and ask why there was all those stuffed and plastic animals.. Also you can ask, since when they have such toys in a court room? I know they can tell you the answer. I cannot call since I am in Canada. I know if we call our courts they will explain. Blessings.

Hi - in the very beginning of the hoax people were calling and emailing businesses and people of "interest" and all it did was make them stop what they were doing. For instance, TMZ - they did not have MJ's name in the RIP section but they were hounded to death until they added his name. In the end, what did that solve? Nothing - except now MJ's name is in the RIP where it wasn't (for good reason) before. They never came out and said "oh - you got me, MJ is alive and that is why it's not there".

Just my observation but I don't think they would give us an answer (at least an honest one) as to why those toy animals are there but what it may do is force whomever to quit leaving clues for us.

We all know that is not normal for animals to be in a courtroom and we know that children are not there, so it's not to entertain them. Just my opinion but I don't think we should be calling the courts and harassing them.

Blessings.



Hello voiceforthesilent!!!!

Talking about TMZ and another celebrities trials,I foud something strange related to TMZ and Lindsay Lohan.Here are some pictures with Lindsay.It seems that during one hearing she took some notes about TMZ beeing live there.To me all this looks very stange and I don't know if I trust TMZ or no :? .

[attachment=3:1xwx3fm3]lindsay fu.jpg[/attachment:1xwx3fm3]

In addition to the lawyer setup scenario, Lindsay appeared to be taking notes which are visible here, citing TMZ (there's those Paparazzi/Lawyer criminals again) having something to do live streaming. TMZ will ALWAYS bring you the inside scoop because they ARE the LEGAL SYSTEM in Los Angeles   :?  :? .
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on February 03, 2011, 08:48:39 PM
Quote from: "applehead250609"
Hello !!!!

Here is the new video of MjHoaxEvidence!!!
Weird things  can happen  :D  inside a courtroom but this is more strange than what you call usually,  :lol:  :lol:  ;) .Enjoy !!!!



[youtube:1v6f70a3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFbovqzaMg[/youtube:1v6f70a3]

LOVE
This video was awesome. I had no clue about all those stuffed animals. There is alot that stood out and many others already wrote about them.

The part about the Bottled Head on the desk... LMAO  :shock: I fell out.
How much more obvious and crazy/bizarre will Michael have to go before people realize this is so ridiculas it can't be real.

Peace
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: voiceforthesilent on February 03, 2011, 08:55:51 PM
Quote from: "applehead250609"
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Interesting Zoo. Any idea who put them there and why? Would be useful to have also answers. All we have so far are findings, really good ones. But no answer, at least not clear and final. Good video though.


The only way we can find answer, is if any one lifes in LA can call the courts and ask why there was all those stuffed and plastic animals.. Also you can ask, since when they have such toys in a court room? I know they can tell you the answer. I cannot call since I am in Canada. I know if we call our courts they will explain. Blessings.

Hi - in the very beginning of the hoax people were calling and emailing businesses and people of "interest" and all it did was make them stop what they were doing. For instance, TMZ - they did not have MJ's name in the RIP section but they were hounded to death until they added his name. In the end, what did that solve? Nothing - except now MJ's name is in the RIP where it wasn't (for good reason) before. They never came out and said "oh - you got me, MJ is alive and that is why it's not there".

Just my observation but I don't think they would give us an answer (at least an honest one) as to why those toy animals are there but what it may do is force whomever to quit leaving clues for us.

We all know that is not normal for animals to be in a courtroom and we know that children are not there, so it's not to entertain them. Just my opinion but I don't think we should be calling the courts and harassing them.

Blessings.



Hello voiceforthesilent!!!!

Talking about TMZ and another celebrities trials,I foud something strange related to TMZ and Lindsay Lohan.Here are some pictures with Lindsay.It seems that during one hearing she took some notes about TMZ beeing live there.To me all this looks very stange and I don't know if I trust TMZ or no :? .

[attachment=3:12bun41d]lindsay fu.jpg[/attachment:12bun41d]

In addition to the lawyer setup scenario, Lindsay appeared to be taking notes which are visible here, citing TMZ (there's those Paparazzi/Lawyer criminals again) having something to do live streaming. TMZ will ALWAYS bring you the inside scoop because they ARE the LEGAL SYSTEM in Los Angeles   :?  :? .

Hi :)  No, I don't trust TMZ either. But they have a part in this hoax and until we figure out their game we need to watch what they do. I was just saying that hounding people doesn't get the desired results, it only created an impression that we are really crazed fans. There are other ways to get information. Blessings :)
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: MJs Tinkerbell on February 03, 2011, 09:24:26 PM
The biggest clue ever is the "White Rabbit".
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: wishingstar on February 04, 2011, 12:29:37 AM
Looking around for the "why"....I found a 60's group called The Toys.  One of their songs, Lover's Concerto, was used for the a sound track to the movie The Last Supper it was also done by...The Supremes
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8 ... ative=9325 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?ie=UTF8&keywords=toys%20lover%27s%20concerto&tag=all4oldies03b-20&index=digital-music&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113613/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113613/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA2hY7nhVWE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA2hY7nhVWE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGDZc9bdUZM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGDZc9bdUZM)

Don't know where to go with this one.......but thought it was interesting.

Blessings!
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: bec on February 04, 2011, 01:43:19 AM
Quote from: "Im_convincedmjalive"

The part about the Bottled Head on the desk... LMAO  :shock: I fell out.

Shrunken Heads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrunken_head (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrunken_head)
Quote
A shrunken head is a severed and specially prepared human head that is used for trophy, ritual, or trade purposes.

[snip]a shrunken head is known as a tsantsa,[1] also transliterated tzantzar.

After World War II, the shrunken heads were found at the Buchenwald concentration camp that were alleged to have been of prisoners.[2] One of them was subsequently presented as evidence at the Nuremberg Trials by U.S. Executive Trial Counsel Thomas J. Dodd even though none of the accused was specifically charged with shrinking these heads.[3]

...

Trade in shrunken heads
At first, cultural restrictions meant that deaths from traditional conflict were relatively rare,[citation needed] and few shrunken heads were prepared. When westerners created an economic demand for shrunken heads, however, there was a sharp increase in the rate of killings in an effort to supply collectors and tourists.[5][6]

Also encouraged by this trade, as early as the 1870s people in Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador unconnected to the Jívaros began to make counterfeit tsantsas. They used corpses from morgues, or the heads of monkeys or sloths. Some even used goatskin. Kate Duncan wrote in 2001 that "It has been estimated that about 80 percent of the tsantsas in private and museum hands are fraudulent," including almost all that are female or which include an entire torso rather than just a head.[4]
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Victor on February 04, 2011, 04:29:38 AM
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9692/thisisitdouble.jpg)
http://img137.imageshack.us/i/thisisitdouble.jpg/
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: _Anna_ on February 04, 2011, 03:22:20 PM
Here you see another case from September 2010, with the same judge Michael Pastor, where there are toys. You can see the same stuffed bear and the hippo on the judge's desk. So it's not a clue.
So there are always toys in this court room

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/jvZAo0UT ... N8acGJO5B_ (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/jvZAo0UTUdx/Bell+California+City+Council+Members+Arraigned/_N8acGJO5B_)
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Lovely One on February 04, 2011, 11:02:27 PM
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Here you see another case from September 2010, with the same judge Michael Pastor, where there are toys. You can see the same stuffed bear and the hippo on the judge's desk. So it's not a clue.
So there are always toys in this court room

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/jvZAo0UT ... N8acGJO5B_ (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/jvZAo0UTUdx/Bell+California+City+Council+Members+Arraigned/_N8acGJO5B_)

Shucks!!! I thought we really had something here....Darn.
Thanks for showing us this though!  ;)
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Grace on February 05, 2011, 01:30:20 AM
Quote from: "Lovely One"
Quote from: "_Anna_"
Here you see another case from September 2010, with the same judge Michael Pastor, where there are toys. You can see the same stuffed bear and the hippo on the judge's desk. So it's not a clue.
So there are always toys in this court room

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/jvZAo0UT ... N8acGJO5B_ (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/jvZAo0UTUdx/Bell+California+City+Council+Members+Arraigned/_N8acGJO5B_)

Shucks!!! I thought we really had something here....Darn.

Still no reason for this fact to be dismissed at all.

Still waiting for Laura Ashley rugs and curtains to make it even more cosy and entertaining.
Harvey, keep them coming - flowers are always welcome...
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: bec on February 05, 2011, 01:39:29 AM
I scrolled through those pics and I didn't see any toys other then the bear and the hippo which I wasn't even sure was actually a hippo in the first place.

In any case, that would explain why no one seemed to remark on their presence. Perhaps people have had an opportunity to get used to this judge adorning the court room with toy animals.
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on February 05, 2011, 09:38:02 AM
Quote from: "Victor"
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9692/thisisitdouble.jpg)
http://img137.imageshack.us/i/thisisitdouble.jpg/
Is this the same ANDROMEDA who had a forum, chat, youtube etc and was uploading LeahciMNoskcaJ's videos claiming that she received them from an informer. Is the same Andromeda who was manipulating old videos of Michael, uploading them and claiming they were recent? Is this the same ANDROMEDA who downloaded audio of Michael from 2005, from a website that sold bracelets in support of Michael during the trial, uploaded the audio to youtube and claimed it was recent and sent to her by an informer?  Is this the same ANDROMEDA who was uploading photos that had been photoshopped, claiming they were of Michael and/or a double. Is this the same ANDROMEDA who told people that an informer was in contact with her and was revealing things to her on Micheal's behalf? Is this the same ANDROMEDA, that when confronted about all of these deceptions, deleted all of her accounts including the forum?

Before I believe that this is authentic:
1. Who is ANDROMEDA? Because if it is the woman described above, then this is not credible evidence.
2. The website that is credited in this still http://www.mjhd.bplaced.net/ is not functioning.
"bplaced.net   Diese Seite ist leider nicht mehr verfügbar, Fehler 404.   Sorry, this page is not available any more, error 404."
3.Where are the original photographs, that have been cropped and used in the comparison?
4. Without the original photographs, we can not verify that one or both of the photos hasn't be altered, is from the same day and taken around the same time.
5. Both pictures are taken from completely different angles, the lighting may be different, Michael's head is at a completely different angel in the two photos. As for facial hair growth, photo #1 could be from late in a day and #2 could have been taken in the morning.
6. I am no expert on photos but photo #2 looks like it has been altered to me. I could be wrong and maybe it is just the angle/lighting but it just doesn't look right.
Title: Re: MjHoaxEvidence- weird things inside the courtroom
Post by: _Anna_ on February 05, 2011, 01:20:20 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Is this the same ANDROMEDA who had a forum, chat, youtube etc and was uploading LeahciMNoskcaJ's videos claiming that she received them from an informer. Is the same Andromeda who was manipulating old videos of Michael, uploading them and claiming they were recent? Is this the same ANDROMEDA who downloaded audio of Michael from 2005, from a website that sold bracelets in support of Michael during the trial, uploaded the audio to youtube and claimed it was recent and sent to her by an informer?  Is this the same ANDROMEDA who was uploading photos that had been photoshopped, claiming they were of Michael and/or a double. Is this the same ANDROMEDA who told people that an informer was in contact with her and was revealing things to her on Micheal's behalf? Is this the same ANDROMEDA, that when confronted about all of these deceptions, deleted all of her accounts including the forum?

The one and the same. Glad you pointed that out. I'm still shocked, this person still hunts the internet? I thought she dissappeared from the face of the Internet after the continuous shit she had been doing and after things cought up with her. I personally think and without any harm intended, that she was a schizophrenic or something.I never followed her, so I don't know everything, but I do know what you mentioned and it's all true. It reached to me because of people talking about her everywhere and after I gave her a "sweet" comment on her forum(the one and only post) I got banned but god I felt good.
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