Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
General Michael Jackson Forum => Random MJ Talk => Topic started by: Sinderella on February 05, 2011, 11:47:16 AM
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Ok,so as you know and a lot of you got involved with today,there was an hour where believers,non believers(hopefully)Michael Jackson fans and supporters came together to support Deborah French in her attempt to STOP the sickening videos and accounts on Youtube aimed at Michael.
There was only a few links listed in her tweet but most of those accounts have multiple videos uploaded and hopefully people took it past an hour and carried on flagging and reporting them!
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=17731&start=25
Talking in the thread (linked above) some of us have decided this should not be a one off,nor should it only last an hour.
This step towards justice for Michael,his children,family and legacy should be done monthly as a global effort.
Obviously you can flag a video whenever you like but getting this to be a global mission and having everyone-believers,nons,general fans and supporters and event Michael's personal friends-Brett Ratner,etc involved,united together would make a big impact on how youtube operate their website.
They are quick enough to remove videos which have content breaking copyright so they should be able to monitor ALL content at ALL times.
Moderators should be monitoring the site 24hrs a day and words which cause offense to people should be blocked.
Michael gets a lot of stick as it is and if we as a global community can help to erradicate some of that,then I don't see anything bad about it or anything to stop us.
How does everyone feel about this being not just a forum mission but taking it outside and getting as many people involved as possible?
Anything is possible,if you BELIEVE it is.
All thoughts welcome and I hope to see you jumping on board.
Lets bring the rain and kick some fucking ass.
Much L.O.V.E
Sin xo
Original tweet from Deborah French
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/8jsokr
On Friday 4th February 2011, @DeborahFrench said:
Would you like to take part in a youtube experiment? One designed to do something about the horrific amount of hate videos on youtube featuring Michael Jackson.
A simultaneous targeting of these videos on is planned for Saturday, Febuary 5. Times are detailed below.
Many groups on FB and many here on twitter including @MJJJusticePrjct, @mjsarmy1, @support4mj, @777MJJ, @Luna_respectMJ, @Qbees and many, many others here -- are coming together to promote & participate in this action to try and remove certain youtube videos & users from youtube.
We are hoping you will join us. Here are some simple instructions to accomplish this task.
1: WHEN and WHERE:
WHERE: Youtube
DATE: Saturday Febuary 5, 2011
TIME: ONE HOUR WINDOW
12:00 PM -- 1:00 PM EST
11:00 AM -- 12:00 PM CST
09:00 AM -- 10:00 AM PST
5:00 PM -- 6:00 PM GMT
2: WHAT:
After you have signed in and /or created your Youtube account, please go to the links below & follow these instructions:
1 Dislike the video (thumbs down)
2 Move across to the Flag icon to your right & click
on it.
3 A drop down box will appear. Select 'hateful or
abusive content.'
4 From there, move your cursor across to the right
and select -- 'Promotes Hatred or Violence'
5 Another drop down list will appear:
- age
- colour
- disability
- ethnic origin
- gender identity
- national origin
- race
- religion
- sex
- sexual orientation
- veteran status
The above list is double-talk by youtube as reporting these kind of videos does not really fit into the categories they show. Personally, I select either race or sexual orientation as these abusive users are promoting an untrue and false lie about Michael Jackson and sexual abuse, and are often racist. Your choices here are not ideal but youtube will not accept your report if you do not make a selection.
3: Who:
Target these Links:
http://www.youtube.com/user/WackoJackoFucksKids
http://www.youtube.com/user/JackoNiggerKiller
http://www.youtube.com/user/FatherlessMaggot
http://www.youtube.com/user/Blanket666Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/user/666PrinceMJackson666
http://www.youtube.com/user/lolatrape666
http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseOfPainGROUP
http://www.youtube.com/user/UltraPropofol
Please Note:
With users -- House of Pain & ultra Propofol -- feel free to work your way through their entire video catalogue, as well as flagging and reporting their home channels.
Results will not show immediately as it takes time for youtube to process reports of abuse.
But if we all do this today & at other dates in the future, we may seriously impact the effort to cleanup the hate on youtube. Other efforts to deal with persistent youtube abusers in relation to MJ are also happening offline.
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I agree with you. I was shocked at the s**t on there about our Michael. We are "fanily"and it is up to all of Michael's loved ones to protect him. (although I do hope they don't track our ip's and retaliate...) Tell us what to do...I'm still flagging :)
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There are HUNDREDS of videos and you sure think it's useless and endless...
But if HATE had the time to load them on the web, L.O.V.E sure has some more time to flag them all and stop them !!!
I'm in for this, let's show them how stubborn MJ supporter's can be too !!
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I totally agree. If those seeking to defame Michael can take the time to create, load, or spread hate, then surely all of those who believe in love, truth, and justice for all can spend the time to stand up against the bullying, hate, and defamation of character against Michael.
There is a group that gathers to pray every month at the same time for Michael and his family. This is no different except we are showing our support in another tangible way.
There comes a time we all need to stand together and say "enough". THIS IS IT - This is the time. We need to be that voice for Michael and I'm proud to be a part of this. If we could choose the same time every month it will help to remember and plan ahead.
This type of bullying goes far beyond Michael but he is the easy target and this needs to stop. We need to put love back in the world.
Blessings on your day. I think I will end any comments when disputing those videos with "It's all for L.O.V.E.".
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Should be done every WEEK, to prevent them from having 29 days to be seen.
If you spend 30 minutes doing FF on Twitter every friday, sure you can give 30 minutes for MJ in your week !
Put yourself some MJ music for motivation and go for it, flagging as much as you can, and as much as you can cope with.
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Should be done every WEEK, to prevent them from having 29 days to be seen.
If you spend 30 minutes doing FF on Twitter every friday, sure you can give 30 minutes for MJ in your week !
Put yourself some MJ music for motivation and go for it, flagging as much as you can, and as much as you can cope with.
I totally agree - knowing how much time I've spent just on this site alone...I can find the 30 minutes per week to attack haters on youtube.
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Well as I said it is up to the individual,but I have said monthly so,say the 5th or 7th of the month it is a Globally recognised event.
Everyone has a spare 30mins in the week to do it but realistically,monthly will work better for everyone.
There is NOTHING stopping ANYONE doing it everyday if they have the time,more often the better!!!!
I hope you see what I'm trying to say...I FULLY agree to doing it weekly but people find excuses and whatever so I thought having an anchored date that everyone knows will ensure it's followed through.
J4MJ could go to fl every week but it's the same thing,people would start resenting the journey there and emotional toll so they go the 3rd of every month which is when they believe Michael was put into his final resting place and everyone knows about it,what date etc.
Am I making sense?
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Should be done every WEEK, to prevent them from having 29 days to be seen.
If you spend 30 minutes doing FF on Twitter every friday, sure you can give 30 minutes for MJ in your week !
Put yourself some MJ music for motivation and go for it, flagging as much as you can, and as much as you can cope with.
I totally agree - knowing how much time I've spent just on this site alone...I can find the 30 minutes per week to attack haters on youtube.
Yes @voiceforthesilent @whatyourheartsays
I can do that, now I that know how to do it. These haters are sad individuals and as @StevieBTheTruth said on Twitter A person hates u for 1 of 3 reasons. 1.They wanna be you 2.They hate themselves 3.They see you as a threat #RealTalk
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Brilliant topic Sindrella, it's an awesome idea, there are a lot of sick videos on Youtube, horrible facebook pages which humiliate Michael, they really suck, on my facebook account i'm a member of a group called MJ Supporters against Hate and Racism-http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=100757199965467, so they regularly send me links to report-youtube links, disgusting facebook pages about MJ, other horrible pages, i report them several times a week, i do it regularly,so i think it's time to make those ignorant fools stop the garbage they're spreading about MJ, every time i come across to an MJ Hate group or page, i take it personally and immediately report it(them),my suggestion is whoever can, let's post as many links as we can and report them on a daily basis, if you agree with me, i can post the links each time i come across to them.
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Yeah MM it was quite disturbing to see some of those videos earlier,lots of people didn't even know they existed so it was also a learning experience in the worst possible meaning of the word.
I am suggesting the 5th of every month,since today is the 5th-the first one and it also has the link with 'V'
What do you think?
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I'm in 100%. Time to kick the hate out and bring the truth in.
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I am with you.
I make report of pages full of hate that are on facebook; many other members of a MJ italian forum often or always make report.
Bye and thank you, when I can do something concrete, I'll do it.
We trust you MJ, we are on your side; we are against hate.
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I'm in, but I think we should get the non-believers on board as well. Can someone make a thread on MJJ Community? I would if they didn't hate me that much lol.
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I can message J4MJ and see what they say?
One of them,A UK member runs a MJ radio session on a Saturday so I will pm her and she what she says.
The people who run it though seem to have a problem helping and 'fighting' when it wasn't their idea............funny that isn't it...I thought it was about Michael not them.
Go figure..
Anyway!!
Lets do it and see what we can accomplish as a forum!
Maybe this should be a global thread Souza?
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I'm in, but I think we should get the non-believers on board as well. Can someone make a thread on MJJ Community? I would if they didn't hate me that much lol.
The italian forum I referred in my post is a non-beliver one; one years ago there were many belivers, but now many are not belivers; however they combat so much to defend MJ.
This is not a very big forum, but anyway it's better than nothing.
Much love.
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Yeah MM it was quite disturbing to see some of those videos earlier,lots of people didn't even know they existed so it was also a learning experience in the worst possible meaning of the word.
I am suggesting the 5th of every month,since today is the 5th-the first one and it also has the link with 'V'
What do you think?
The 5th is a good idea Sind. I'm totally in.
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Maybe this should be a global thread Souza?
Consider it done!
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/8jsokr
On Friday 4th February 2011, @DeborahFfrench said:
Would you like to take part in a youtube experiment? One designed to do something about the horrific amount of hate videos on youtube featuring Michael Jackson.
A simultaneous targeting of these videos on is planned for Saturday, Febuary 5. Times are detailed below.
Many groups on FB and many here on twitter including @MJJJusticePrjct, @mjsarmy1, @support4mj, @777MJJ, @Luna_respectMJ, @Qbees and many, many others here -- are coming together to promote & participate in this action to try and remove certain youtube videos & users from youtube.
We are hoping you will join us. Here are some simple instructions to accomplish this task.
1: WHEN and WHERE:
WHERE: Youtube
DATE: Saturday Febuary 5, 2011
TIME: ONE HOUR WINDOW
12:00 PM -- 1:00 PM EST
11:00 AM -- 12:00 PM CST
09:00 AM -- 10:00 AM PST
5:00 PM -- 6:00 PM GMT
2: WHAT:
After you have signed in and /or created your Youtube account, please go to the links below & follow these instructions:
1 Dislike the video (thumbs down)
2 Move across to the Flag icon to your right & click
on it.
3 A drop down box will appear. Select 'hateful or
abusive content.'
4 From there, move your cursor across to the right
and select -- 'Promotes Hatred or Violence'
5 Another drop down list will appear:
- age
- colour
- disability
- ethnic origin
- gender identity
- national origin
- race
- religion
- sex
- sexual orientation
- veteran status
The above list is double-talk by youtube as reporting these kind of videos does not really fit into the categories they show. Personally, I select either race or sexual orientation as these abusive users are promoting an untrue and false lie about Michael Jackson and sexual abuse, and are often racist. Your choices here are not ideal but youtube will not accept your report if you do not make a selection.
3: Who:
Target these Links:
http://www.youtube.com/user/WackoJackoFucksKids
http://www.youtube.com/user/JackoNiggerKiller
http://www.youtube.com/user/FatherlessMaggot
http://www.youtube.com/user/Blanket666Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/user/666PrinceMJackson666
http://www.youtube.com/user/lolatrape666
http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseOfPainGROUP
http://www.youtube.com/user/UltraPropofol
Please Note:
With users -- House of Pain & ultra Propofol -- feel free to work your way through their entire video catalogue, as well as flagging and reporting their home channels.
Results will not show immediately as it takes time for youtube to process reports of abuse.
But if we all do this today & at other dates in the future, we may seriously impact the effort to cleanup the hate on youtube. Other efforts to deal with persistent youtube abusers in relation to MJ are also happening offline.
Thank you and good energy to our work this Saturday!
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Some more links to flag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymz3xBR-IX0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2lblZGmoj8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEx5bo07kU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMhn8rlLRdo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peszVbgyi1M&feature=related
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Thank you Purelove!!! I meant to copy the actual link over into here but forgot
oops
@Souza thank you!!
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jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
is impressed by the pro-Michael army going on a mission to bring decency to You Tube content. A truly Herculean effort rooted in love
1 minute ago
http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5
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Some more motivation :
just tweeted
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
is impressed by the pro-Michael army going on a mission to bring decency to You Tube content. A truly Herculean effort rooted in love
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Some more motivation :
just tweeted
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
is impressed by the pro-Michael army going on a mission to bring decency to You Tube content. A truly Herculean effort rooted in love
Brilliant!
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Some more motivation :
just tweeted
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
is impressed by the pro-Michael army going on a mission to bring decency to You Tube content. A truly Herculean effort rooted in love
GOING on a mission...so I assume he saw the thread, because the other mission has passed already.
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Some more motivation :
just tweeted
jermjackson5 Jermaine Jackson
is impressed by the pro-Michael army going on a mission to bring decency to You Tube content. A truly Herculean effort rooted in love
GOING on a mission...so I assume he saw the thread, because the other mission has passed already.
Jerm even actually used the word MISSION, as in the title of this thread. **All wave at Jermaine***
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Pffft Jermaine,stealing my words.aha
WITH THE L.O.V.E JJ <3!
I want these to trend in March
#stopthehate
#5thflagday
#flagday
Good Job everyone!
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Oh, I wonder whether we will see any info about it on TMZ soon :?
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Awww man! I missed the mission! Have the hateful clips been taken down?
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I did too unfotunately. However I just clicked on one and it is filth plain & simple. This should be an ongoing process unti it’s all gone. I vow to do my part. This is beyond insulting. It’s bordering on insanity. :evil:
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Hey guys, I started the campain a little earlier because of time differences and committments, but lets keep at it and do our bit to clean up.
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Awww man! I missed the mission! Have the hateful clips been taken down?
There are HUNDREDS !!!
You can do when you want but the 5th of each month will be massive attack on haters ;)
flag the videos and report the chanels ;)
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Awww man! I missed the mission! Have the hateful clips been taken down?
NO YOU NEVER!!!
It is ongoing,it's going on tomorrow too because today was such a great effort,so much so Jermaine has noticed so you know what that means.....TMZ lmao! @forst
Do it whenever you can! every day,week,month...
We just want to keep it going and not just do an hour and that be it.We have a chance to fight for justice in a major way here,so having a pin pointed day the '5th' of every month can be known as #flagday and #stopthehate and hopefully EVERYONE who supports Michael can unite in this making it a global effort.
Time has come to rise up and kick hate in the balls.
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Awww man! I missed the mission! Have the hateful clips been taken down?
NO YOU NEVER!!!
It is ongoing,it's going on tomorrow too because today was such a great effort,so much so Jermaine has noticed so you know what that means.....TMZ lmao! @forst
Do it whenever you can! every day,week,month...
We just want to keep it going and not just do an hour and that be it.We have a chance to fight for justice in a major way here,so having a pin pointed day the '5th' of every month can be known as #flagday and #stopthehate and hopefully EVERYONE who supports Michael can unite in this making it a global effort.
Time has come to rise up and kick hate in the balls.
Oh yayy!! I still have a chance to do it. Can you do it as often as you want or can you only do it once. Those clips make me sick to my stomach. I can't believe the evil that exists in this world.
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Awww man! I missed the mission! Have the hateful clips been taken down?
NO YOU NEVER!!!
It is ongoing,it's going on tomorrow too because today was such a great effort,so much so Jermaine has noticed so you know what that means.....TMZ lmao! @forst
Do it whenever you can! every day,week,month...
We just want to keep it going and not just do an hour and that be it.We have a chance to fight for justice in a major way here,so having a pin pointed day the '5th' of every month can be known as #flagday and #stopthehate and hopefully EVERYONE who supports Michael can unite in this making it a global effort.
Time has come to rise up and kick hate in the balls.
Don't want to just kick em. I want to cut them off.
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Awww man! I missed the mission! Have the hateful clips been taken down?
NO YOU NEVER!!!
It is ongoing,it's going on tomorrow too because today was such a great effort,so much so Jermaine has noticed so you know what that means.....TMZ lmao! @forst
Do it whenever you can! every day,week,month...
We just want to keep it going and not just do an hour and that be it.We have a chance to fight for justice in a major way here,so having a pin pointed day the '5th' of every month can be known as #flagday and #stopthehate and hopefully EVERYONE who supports Michael can unite in this making it a global effort.
Time has come to rise up and kick hate in the balls.
Don't want to just kick em. I want to cut them off.
Well yes,I can see where your coming from but then they don't suffer prolonged agony ;)
Repeatedly being kicked in the balls has got to be worse than having them cut off
I sound like in the know about how to torture men.HAHAHAHA..
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Awww man! I missed the mission! Have the hateful clips been taken down?
NO YOU NEVER!!!
It is ongoing,it's going on tomorrow too because today was such a great effort,so much so Jermaine has noticed so you know what that means.....TMZ lmao! @forst
Do it whenever you can! every day,week,month...
We just want to keep it going and not just do an hour and that be it.We have a chance to fight for justice in a major way here,so having a pin pointed day the '5th' of every month can be known as #flagday and #stopthehate and hopefully EVERYONE who supports Michael can unite in this making it a global effort.
Time has come to rise up and kick hate in the balls.
Don't want to just kick em. I want to cut them off.
Well yes,I can see where your coming from but then they don't suffer prolonged agony ;)
Repeatedly being kicked in the balls has got to be worse than having them cut off
I sound like in the know about how to torture men.HAHAHAHA..
Such detailed convo :lol:
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HAHAHAHAHA!
And I thought I was gonna sleep now..haha.
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HAHAHAHAHA!
And I thought I was gonna sleep now..haha.
Go to bed ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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HAHAHAHAHA!
And I thought I was gonna sleep now..haha.
Go to bed ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I am in bed :D
But this is too funny! I can see Sind and her spiked boots HAHAHA!
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HAHAHAHAHA!
And I thought I was gonna sleep now..haha.
Go to bed ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I am in bed :D
But this is too funny! I can see Sind and her spiked boots HAHAHA!
Ouch !
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It's interesting how Jermaine knew. Was it announced to him on Twitter. You really think Jermaine is lurking around here?
*waves to Jermaine*
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You really think Jermaine is lurking around here?
Yes I do.
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I made my account tonight and did some flagging already.
I have a lot more to flag, so work to do.
Great initiative ... 8-)
Hai Jermaine ... ;)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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I'm in, but I think we should get the non-believers on board as well. Can someone make a thread on MJJ Community? I would if they didn't hate me that much lol.
Why do they hate you Souza? You are a wonderful human being, THANK YOU for opening this forum to us believers. God bless you.I AM IN and I want to kick some asses.. Enough with HATE and Welcome peace, love and harmony. Nobody will talk bad about Michael anymore. BLESSINGS TO EVERYONE
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HAHAHAHAHA!
And I thought I was gonna sleep now..haha.
Go to bed ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I am in bed :D
But this is too funny! I can see Sind and her spiked boots HAHAHA!
Now I sound like a dominatrix,thanks chloe LMFAO!!!
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Sorry, don't feel like copying all the messages from MJKIT, but here is the coninued thread while the forum was offline:
http://mjkit.forumotion.net/t4128-a-uni ... you-intemp (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/t4128-a-united-front-against-youtube-a-new-missionare-you-intemp)
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Thank you Souza ...
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I just checked out some of these accounts/videos and, well, i'm at a complete loss for words. Utterly disgusted would describe my feelings I think, so count me in! These idiots go WAY beyond stupid, their hate filled words and actions to me like others have mentioned suggest extreme racisim, and a lot of insanity. This is a wrong that must be righted!
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I flagged all the video's from the links, but where/how do I find all the other hate-video's?
Any suggestions?
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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I flagged all the video's from the links, but where/how do I find all the other hate-video's?
Any suggestions?
you may check in subscriptions or favorites videos of the users listed... and then in the next users and so on and on,
this is what I do, and I do get new accounts to report
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Just do random searches on youtube
Using words that some hater might use?
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I flagged all the video's from the links, but where/how do I find all the other hate-video's?
Any suggestions?
you may check in subscriptions or favorites videos of the users listed... and then in the next users and so on and on,
this is what I do, and I do get new accounts to report
Thank you, I will try that tomorrow. Now I need to get some sleep first ... :P
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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The forum is back in time to remind you all to go and flag as much as you can on this "Friday Flagday" :mrgreen:
Go, Go, Go !!!!
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Totally lost track of where I am with hoax land.eugh.
Anyway,
Deborah asked me to RT this on twitter,here are what's gone so far from the majorly horrific channels/vids on her initial list.
I am pretty sure videos where removed but this is what she sent
@DeborahFfrench said:
Here are the results so far from the YouTube weekend Clean-up effort:
Firstly, massive thanks to Franci for compiling this
and secondly this is only the story so far. There will be more results to come, but right now Youtube is looking better than it did.
So here are the stats so far
#1User: JackoNiggerKiller
* Statement that now appears on Youtube:*
JacksonNiggerKiller has been terminated due to
multiple or severe violations of our Community
Guidelines.
#2Michael Jackson autopsy picture, REAL!
* Statement that now appears on Youtube *
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Sony Music Entertainment. Sorry about that
#3Living with a Pedophile: Michael Jackson The Child Molester - Part 5
* Statement that now appears on Youtube:*
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Sony Music Entertainment. Sorry about that.
#4Living with a Pedophile: Michael Jackson The Child Molester - Part 2
by UltraPropofol
* Statement that now appears on Youtube:*
This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Sony Music Entertainment.
Sorry about that
#5House of Pain - Terror's beginning
by HouseOfPainGROUP
* Statement that now appears on Youtube:*
This video has been removed by the user. Sorry about that.
#6Jacko lives with Lucifer
by HouseOfPainGROUP
* Statement that now appears on Youtube:*
This video has been removed by the user. Sorry about that.
(End of YT report)
Special Note to all who took part in the YT effort:
THANK YOU!
For taking a stand against the outrage that these obscene videos on YT represent.
We must continue the work we have begun.
Teams are now being assembled and we are calling all volunteers to help clean up youtube to step forward.
If you think you have the time and strength to help us counter the abuse of MJ's and his children on Youtube, pls contact: @MJJJusticePrjct
If you are ready for the long haul and want to eradicate the hate speech on Youtube toward Michael, your name will be added to the team. As more results come in, we will share them with you.
"If we don't do it.. WHO will?"
MJJJusticePjct
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Woo hoo! 2.11.11 marks a day of successful Resistance. "No para, segue, segue." Don't Stop, We Can Do It!
And when the trial starts, we need to have the same organized and united front to create awareness and spread truth. This is on the Jermaine thread:
viewtopic.php?f=142&t=17783&p=303950#p303950 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=17783&p=303950#p303950)
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again, what is it we have to do on youtube? somebody help please; short and clear. Thnk.
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again, what is it we have to do on youtube? somebody help please; short and clear. Thnk.
1) go to the link provided where obusive videos are uploaded.
2) give it a thumbs down sign
3) flag is as inappropriate but you will need to give further info for it to be looked at by Youtube so flag it as racially or violence motivated and submit.
That's the basic of what you need to do. You can leave a message stating why it's inappropriate but its not necessary. Blessings!
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This is AMAZING!!! :D WooHoooooooo!!!! We should keep going on and do it every month! And between there is something else I want to share with you guys. We need to do something for this horrible book about Michael. This is disgusting! Pls check it out.
Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2czo14.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1848763409/amazonbook021-20/ref=nosim?newgoozT=2010025&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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This is AMAZING!!! :D WooHoooooooo!!!! We should keep going on and do it every month! And between there is something else I want to share with you guys. We need to do something for this horrible book about Michael. This is disgusting! Pls check it out.
Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2czo14.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1848763409/amazonbook021-20/ref=nosim?newgoozT=2010025&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Is it possible they cannot leave Michael alone. What is it with this book? We really have to find a way to ban it. People shouldn't buy this ugly book.
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Only question that should be asked regarding that book-
Why have the family/estate not filed for it to be stopped legally?
Instead of flying off all over the world and have the media reporting him to be a bad father and husband,why doesn't Jermaine put time and effort into protecting Michael/his legacy and his children from this trash and lets be honest-blatent lies and slander.
KJ should be furious,as should ALL Jacksons.
I think they need to take some lessons from Michael's fans in how to unite and stand up for justice.
This infuriates me to the point of almost having no words....almost.
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This is AMAZING!!! :D WooHoooooooo!!!! We should keep going on and do it every month! And between there is something else I want to share with you guys. We need to do something for this horrible book about Michael. This is disgusting! Pls check it out.
Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2czo14.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/1848763409/amazonbook021-20/ref=nosim?newgoozT=2010025&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Oh good grief! When is this going to ever stop? The lies and the slander that are constantly told about Michael is atrocious and disgusting. I'm just so sick of it. And these lies against Michael is the reason why I've joined his army of L.O.V.E.
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Is there a way that we can report the book? it's already too much, they've gone too far this time, they've passed all limits :evil: . BTW here are again some links to some disgusting youtube videos to report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGKJqjhBwsU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGKJqjhBwsU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLstcyA1Ts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfLstcyA1Ts)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_56u4srO ... h_response (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_56u4srOcvg&feature=watch_response)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vnoede8SCo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vnoede8SCo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxuJgQLnow (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JxuJgQLnow)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5piTAo3xt8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5piTAo3xt8)
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Thanks for keeping up the list of people we should go on repporting. I have repported many but did not save the names. Keeping up a list is very useful.
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@MashMike
Just put up a new thread for the book,info and stuff is all there to be discussed further xo
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These videos are absolutly awful :o
We might post this thread in the army of love section, it's one of our mission !!!!
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These videos are absolutly awful :o
We might post this thread in the army of love section, it's one of our mission !!!!
That would be awesome,you could link this thread with it if you want and people can see that it is a mass combined effort :)
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GUYS THERE ARE SOME MORE VIDEOS AND PAGES TO REPORT, LET'S DO IT :
http://www.youtube.com/user/GunnyPIG (http://www.youtube.com/user/GunnyPIG)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9e7MUmyFNI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9e7MUmyFNI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEx5bo07kU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEx5bo07kU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD0Sdg4k ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD0Sdg4kmp4&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp_QrOaO ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp_QrOaOzA0&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GAQfgqZ ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GAQfgqZQos&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWQGsoOWKbM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWQGsoOWKbM)
http://www.youtube.com/user/hasnaat123# ... wEx5bo07kU (http://www.youtube.com/user/hasnaat123#p/a/u/0/3wEx5bo07kU)
http://www.youtube.com/user/WackoJackoFucksKids (http://www.youtube.com/user/WackoJackoFucksKids)
http://www.youtube.com/user/Fokkae (http://www.youtube.com/user/Fokkae)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ39etsF ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ39etsFDUw&feature=related)
AND THOSE WHO HAVE FACEBOOK PAGES:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-J ... 532?ref=nf (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-Jackson-e-tornato-il-befANO/122607137806532?ref=nf)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-J ... ref=search (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-Jackson-is-dedac-movtyan-chven-vicocxlot-didxans-/300052493711?ref=search)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-J ... ref=search (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Michael-Jacksonis-dedac-movtyan-mtavaria-chven-viyot-kargad/301918242716?ref=search)
PLZ DEDICATE 5 MINUTES PER DAY TO REPORT THEM.
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As soon as i'm home I will work down your list MM
Thank you for posting them all up to work on!! xo
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Please do not forget to report the whole youtube account in addition to flagging videos.
http://www.youtube.com/safety_help (http://www.youtube.com/safety_help)
Thank you!
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I´m in,can count on me in this mission.Ready to kick some ass! :evil:
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@Sinderella
u welcome, i'm always ready, anything for Michael ;)
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These channels and videos are so disgusting...
http://www.youtube.com/user/Fokkae (http://www.youtube.com/user/Fokkae)
This channel is obviously deleted! :)
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Thanks to Sony Music Entertainment for helping taking some of those videos down.
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Only question that should be asked regarding that book-
Why have the family/estate not filed for it to be stopped legally?
Instead of flying off all over the world and have the media reporting him to be a bad father and husband,why doesn't Jermaine put time and effort into protecting Michael/his legacy and his children from this trash and lets be honest-blatent lies and slander.
KJ should be furious,as should ALL Jacksons.
I think they need to take some lessons from Michael's fans in how to unite and stand up for justice.
This infuriates me to the point of almost having no words....almost.
It's the same story as with the Discovery channel and its planned MJ autopsy. God knows if the Jacksons/Estate would of objected hadnt the fans protested on such massive scale. Makes you go hmmm.
Btw I hope nothing will ever make you lose words!! xox
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@MashMike
Just put up a new thread for the book,info and stuff is all there to be discussed further xo
To which section can I make a post about the book?
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@MashMike
Just put up a new thread for the book,info and stuff is all there to be discussed further xo
To which section can I make a post about the book?
For books about MJ: there is a section called Books About Michael
viewforum.php?f=262 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=262)
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@MashMike
Just put up a new thread for the book,info and stuff is all there to be discussed further xo
To which section can I make a post about the book?
For books about MJ: there is a section called Books About Michael
viewforum.php?f=262 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=262)
Thank you so much. Sinderella made a post already about the book. Thank you both. :)
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@MashMike
Just put up a new thread for the book,info and stuff is all there to be discussed further xo
To which section can I make a post about the book?
For books about MJ: there is a section called Books About Michael
viewforum.php?f=262 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=262)
Thank you so much. Sinderella made a post already about the book. Thank you both. :)
You are most welcome,Thank you for bringing it to our attention <3
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I've reported 75 videos, and over 15 channels.
~MJARMY of L.O.VE~
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Sinderella » Sat Feb
Michael Jackson fans and supporters came together to support Deborah French in her attempt to STOP the sickening videos and accounts on Youtube aimed at Michael.
Lets bring the rain and kick some fucking ass.
5 Another drop down list will appear:
- age
- colour
- disability
- ethnic origin
- gender identity
- national origin
race
- religion
- sex
- sexual orientation
- veteran status
The above list is double-talk by youtube as reporting these kind of videos does not really fit into the categories they show
The drop down list above, Sinderella, is not a Double –Talk by YOU Tube at all,
like you are stating above in your post,
but actually is the list of the allowable categories in reporting true discrimination practices under the law
just thought to point this one fact out to you , if you thought it was just a double talk by you tube., ;)
which it is not at all, but, these laws actually do dictate to all including YT.
Thus ,pls. keep in mind, YT also has to abide by them, when they make their decision, as to who is in real violation of those laws, and whose rights too are exactly and possibly being violated under the same laws.
Pls. Note also, the right spoken of here is including that of the posters of those vids,you are trying to get banned,,
as it relates to the posters rights to free speech and expression.(artistic mode in some instances etc.)
So, with that in mind pls.check out the link below, if you are interested to know more about wht the laws have to say about all your suggestion to
" bringing in Rain and KICKING some FUCKING ASS " business , to use your own words.. ;)
Federal Laws Prohibiting Discrimination: Questions And Answers
Nov 21, 2009 ... Discriminatory practices under these laws also include: harassment on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability
Peace.
I hope you had a chance to read my reply post to you and all other posters who posted their disagreement with my take of this issue of banning and muzzling folks etc.
It is my humble effort and hope too, to try to point to some sort of a balanced outlook to your mode/type of thinking/suggestion too, as I understand it to mean, of going around, to bring rain and KICKING SOME FUCKING ASS et. LOL.
Peace.
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A simple "No, I'm not in," would have sufficed Supervision. ;) We get it, nobody should have any limits placed on what they say or do or make videos about. I hope you are never on the receiving end of such a thing yourself, as you may not feel so strongly about the whole thing. Nonetheless, I get the impression you've got both hands tightly on that spoon and will continue to enjoy using it.
The rest of us will make use of the Dislike and Report buttons on YouTube or wherever as that's why they are there. If everyone sat back and allowed others to say and do whatever they like no matter how hateful then the world would be a very different place, and I for one believe freedom of speech goes both ways. They can say whatever they like but I can say just as loudly back what I think of their words. If enough people do the same and the hatemongers have their account shut down, that's their problem, not mine. The will of the people can and should make a change for the better. If it doesn't offend you, fair enough, but reams of spiel copied and pasted from the internet (I'm referring to the book thread here), aren't likely to convert many here I'm afraid. My moral code is not altered by reading what some so-called "expert" may say in some study or article. Just because it supports your point of view doesn't make it the one and only truth. I could likely find ten articles to support my point of view if I had the time or inclination, however I don't feel the need. My opinions are my own and do not require validation or backing up.
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He also used "army" :D Hi Jermaine!
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Here are some more Youtube channels and facebook pages to report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOjHCVjbH_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOjHCVjbH_4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfPsQEjJnlM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfPsQEjJnlM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2lblZGmoj8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2lblZGmoj8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymz3xBR- ... playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymz3xBR-IX0&feature=PlayList&p=1C83399AB273A329&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1)
http://www.youtube.com/user/WackoJackoFucksKids (http://www.youtube.com/user/WackoJackoFucksKids)
http://www.youtube.com/user/GeorgeWBushes (http://www.youtube.com/user/GeorgeWBushes)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/El-pasado ... ref=search (http://www.facebook.com/pages/El-pasado-OSCURO-que-Michael-Jackson-llevo-a-la-TUMBA-ESCALOFRIANTE/131805903519451?v=wall&ref=search)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9 ... ref=search (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=95087054861&v=wall&ref=search)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anti-Mich ... 1855?ref=m (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anti-Michael-Jackson/106577061855?ref=m)
Some of the pages really freak me out, there are really nuts, some are from different religious groups, yesterday i received an e-mail from someone who called himself "Satan's child", it really freaked me out, he "promised me" that his "father" will harass me everywhere. I didn't even know that there are so many mentally ill people out there :|
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Sinderella » Sat Feb
Michael Jackson fans and supporters came together to support Deborah French in her attempt to STOP the sickening videos and accounts on Youtube aimed at Michael.
Lets bring the rain and kick some fucking ass.
5 Another drop down list will appear:
- age
- colour
- disability
- ethnic origin
- gender identity
- national origin
race
- religion
- sex
- sexual orientation
- veteran status
The above list is double-talk by youtube as reporting these kind of videos does not really fit into the categories they show
The drop down list above, Sinderella, is not a Double –Talk by YOU Tube at all,
like you are stating above in your post,
but actually is the list of the allowable categories in reporting true discrimination practices under the law
just thought to point this one fact out to you , if you thought it was just a double talk by you tube., ;)
which it is not at all, but, these laws actually do dictate to all including YT.
Thus ,pls. keep in mind, YT also has to abide by them, when they make their decision, as to who is in real violation of those laws, and whose rights too are exactly and possibly being violated under the same laws.
Pls. Note also, the right spoken of here is including that of the posters of those vids,you are trying to get banned,,
as it relates to the posters rights to free speech and expression.(artistic mode in some instances etc.)
So, with that in mind pls.check out the link below, if you are interested to know more about wht the laws have to say about all your suggestion to
" bringing in Rain and KICKING some FUCKING ASS " business , to use your own words.. ;)
Federal Laws Prohibiting Discrimination: Questions And Answers
Nov 21, 2009 ... Discriminatory practices under these laws also include: harassment on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability
Peace.
I hope you had a chance to read my reply post to you and all other posters who posted their disagreement with my take of this issue of banning and muzzling folks etc.
It is my humble effort and hope too, to try to point to some sort of a balanced outlook to your mode/type of thinking/suggestion too, as I understand it to mean, of going around, to bring rain and KICKING SOME FUCKING ASS et. LOL.
Peace.
As Trustno1 said
A simple "No, I'm not in," would have sufficed Supervision. ;) We get it, nobody should have any limits placed on what they say or do or make videos about. I hope you are never on the receiving end of such a thing yourself, as you may not feel so strongly about the whole thing. Nonetheless, I get the impression you've got both hands tightly on that spoon and will continue to enjoy using it.
Firstly-It is not my own personal drop down list,this thread was created by using what Ms Deborah French was using as guidelines for those wanting to get involved and help stop the videos and channels.If you read my previous comments you would see this is an extention of her mission.I simply copy and pasted what she was sending out over that first weekend.I think her writing about it being a double talk is quite insignificant in the grand scheme of things IMO.
I get that you like to go against whatever I say,this is exactly the same as your feelings on letting peadophiles publish books about Michael and whilst using his image and name gain profit.If everyone was able to say and do whatever they wanted and used freedom of speech as their excuse the world would implode on itself.There are limits to how far that excuse goes and that man from my other thread is not entitled to use it.Neither are the people making videos about Michael .He was set up and proven not guilty.
Where in any realm of the universe is it ok for people to ignore the verdict and continue on with dragging his name through the mud and making accusations that are untrue and claim it is their right to freedom of speech?!
I do not share your views,you will not convince me otherwise no matter long and detailed you replies are.That is not to say I do not read them-I do and they are very well constructed and informative.I previously agreed with you to AN EXTENT that everyone should have freedom of speech but there is a line and when someone crosses it then that right should be removed.
I'm going to sound really blunt here but can I ask are you a Michael Jackson fan or just a hoax fan or possibly neither?
You don't seem to appear that bothered that this man is getting books written about him,lies told about him and disgusting videos full of lies and slander put up on the internet about him.
He has children.If you were in his shoes would you want your child seeing these things being directed at you?I am sure you would not.They deserve to be protected from the lies and slander as well as Michael.They are an extention of him.
People have been reporting the WHOLE channel and getting not only the vidoes removed but users banned.Sony and Universal have all aided this campaign and complained themselves.A long list of channels and vidoes have been removed due to them violating YT laws so the MJ community who are working on this mission are not doing so for nothing.If youtube disagreed they would have left them up and ignored the complaints.
I'm sorry but I honestly do not see where you are coming from and although I appriciate your presence on the forum and your attempt to be some sort of balance I personally will not be changing my mind,how I talk or think.
I am happy to help stop these people,if you feel otherwise that is fine but i'm not wrong for doing so.
As for quoting my statement of 'bringing the rain and kicking ass' three times in one post,that is a bit OTT.Bring the rain is a term used in the military for bringing the gun fire and taking down the enemy.It is used in relation to the idea that this forum is an army and we work together to bring down the people who we feel are out of order and are doing wrong to Michael's name,legacy,children etc.
Again,if you don't like how I talk or put things,that is not my problem.I do not have a 'wild west' approach to dealing with people,want to kick anyone in the mouth and I DO like to kick ass when the occassion calls for such action.
I am getting rather bored of having to defend my opinions,thoughts,and pesonality..to you.
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Of course I'm in!
I never see a video disrespecting MJ and just leave it. I try to report, flag as many FB, YT accounts and pages I can! Sick basterds :x
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@Supervision
Regarding "Freedom of Speech" Let´s not forget what can´t be done when using it ;)
Defamation
In law, issuance of false statements about a person that injure his reputation or that deter others from associating with him. Libel and slander are the legal subcategories of defamation. Libel is defamation in print, pictures, or any other visual symbols. A libel plaintiff must generally establish that the alleged libel refers to him or her specifically, that it was published to others (third parties), and that some injury occurred as a result. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that public persons (e.g., celebrities or politicians) alleging libel may recover damages only if they prove that the statement in question was made with "actual malice" — i.e., with knowledge that it was false or with reckless disregard for the truth (New York Times v. Sullivan, 1964). Slander is defamation by oral communication. An action for slander may be brought without alleging and proving special injury if the statement has a plainly harmful character, as by imputing to the plaintiff criminal guilt, serious sexual misconduct, or a characteristic negatively affecting his business or profession. The defense in defamation cases often takes the form of seeking to establish the truth of the statements in question.
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/defamation#ixzz1E9TR1rad (http://www.answers.com/topic/defamation#ixzz1E9TR1rad)
Those videos are made with malice to portray Michael as something he is not and that is called Defamation.
(http://www.smileyshut.com/smileys/new/free-fighting-smileys-395%5B1%5D.gif) :lol:
I will go on repporting those who I can´t associate with. Their behaviour is despicable. Anyone can use "freedom of speech" and make a point to defend their ideals without falling in to defamation. People can do beter than that to give an opinion.
Yes for banning defamation videos. Michael was proven innocent.
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Can we please focus on reporting the hater channels and videos instead of arguing with supervision. No need to write an answer all the time since supervision seems like it is so ok with him/her to see these videos and terrible books about Michael. Go and do nothing sv but pls stop changing the focus point of these important posts.
Pls intead of reporting a video, REPORT THE CHANNEL. That's way so much easier and more effective.
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Can we please focus on reporting the hater channels and videos instead of arguing with supervision. No need to write an answer all the time since supervision seems like it is so ok with him/her to see these videos and terrible books about Michael. Go and do nothing sv but pls stop changing the focus point of these important posts.
Pls intead of reporting a video, REPORT THE CHANNEL. That's way so much easier and more effective.
EXACTLY.
Thank you PureLove.
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AGAIN SOME CHANNELS TO REPORT
http://www.youtube.com/user/JediPedo (http://www.youtube.com/user/JediPedo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4owcQmqn ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4owcQmqn5AM&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEx5bo0 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEx5bo07kU&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMhn8rlLRdo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMhn8rlLRdo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY66dLTf ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY66dLTfs60&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN-AA-sk ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN-AA-skWco&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHKLajm ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHKLajm7_U&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i98PXEj1 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i98PXEj1xNo&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99RWXhYB ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99RWXhYBjoM&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuCCM6K ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuCCM6K3No&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sveiz29h ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sveiz29hfaM&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SIqaeoXWgM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SIqaeoXWgM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6h5ZLPHdtM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6h5ZLPHdtM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5aWp681UDctw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5aWp681UDctw)
AND WHO HAS FCEBOOK, PLZ REPORT THESE PAGES AS WELL:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.phpid=1 ... 45&sk=wall (http://www.facebook.com/profile.phpid=100002105142945&sk=wall)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114019945299534 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=114019945299534)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=245848683439 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=245848683439)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=194466685183 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=194466685183)
http://www.facebook.com/index.php?lh=a0 ... 183&v=wall (http://www.facebook.com/index.php?lh=a0a391a68026ef92dc7d1363eb3a2c36&eu=E8gQ3nDyj6PYPCvrlaxALA#!/group.php?gid=194466685183&v=wall)
http://www.facebook.com/index.php?lh=a0 ... 4085185430 (http://www.facebook.com/index.php?lh=a0a391a68026ef92dc7d1363eb3a2c36&eu=E8gQ3nDyj6PYPCvrlaxALA#!/group.php?gid=224085185430)
http://www.facebook.com/search.php?q=MI ... 2341555662 (http://www.facebook.com/search.php?q=MICHAEL+JACKSON+IS+A+PEDO&init=quick&tas=0.8966906580355651#!/pages/michael-jackson-is-gay/118142341555662)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=382764750037 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=382764750037)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=1 ... 931&v=wall (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=124141775931&v=wall)
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THANK YOU SO MUCH MASHMIKE. Back to duty! :D
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by PureLove » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:38 pm
Can we please focus on reporting the hater channels and videos instead of arguing with supervision.
No need to write an answer all the time since supervision seems like it is so ok with him/her to see these videos and terrible books about Michael.
Go and do nothing SV but pls stop changing the focus point of these important posts.
Dear pure Love sorry to see that you are altogether missing the point of my posts and seem to believe that there is an "argument " with SuperVision going on, when there really is not.
Various points of Disagreement over issues as expressed by the various posters reply to my view, as far as I am concerned, does not mean that there is an argument with SuperVision. NO . not at all imo.
As for my posts "taking the focus off the very important issues at hand"... as you mentioned above,
there is no doubt in my mind, that the issue of freedom of Speech and the Law dictating discriminatory practices,is so directly enterwined with this campaign ,
of some of MJ’s fans, banding together and filing complaints against various artistic outputs of people expressing themselves under their First Amendments Rights of FREEDOM of SPEECH,it is actually a very big important part to this issue, and is/should be included pack and parcel of the very core issue here being discussed imo..
.....Well, while I do respect your own views, I can only say, it is perhaps only people such as yourself,who would think that my post, that were meant to point to this very important consideration were actually
“taking the focus of these important posts” , as you put it,
the important post I suppose to count the posts ,that are generally inviting people/fans to rush on and join to “KICK ASS” as Sinderella mentioned in her initial post as well. ;)
Well, be that as it may be,though you are entitled to your opinion, but pls. let me remind you, while all here have a right to completely ignore my posts as you suggested to all who would listen, and not reply to them at all, I do understand perfectly , that it is within their rights to do so.No worries for me there at all. :)
But, pls. note, at the same time though, I also hold every right to respectfully post my opinion at any time that I wish to do so,
for all the thousands of other readers here, and even other members of this very same forum,
who may wish or look at their option ,and to read my presentation in my post, which I believed, may perhaps point to a more balanced and informed view of the situation.
As of your suggestion to me SV...
“SV... to go and do nothing”, well, I intend to do something for sure, and what that something maybe, really , I have not to necessarily share with you or anyone here, since that would not be any concern of yours or others here at all..
I hope, that you really do get a chance to read this post right here, and I hope too, when and if you do read it, that you are in no way insulted by what I had to say to you,
because and since, you are the one jumped in and actually had the nerves to try to dictate to me to stop expressing my views here, as I had done and am doing so now.
It is true that I am perfectly staying within my rights to try to share respectfully all my views with all who may wish to read about it.
.And no, again , I have to point out to you, that it was no argument with Supervision here at all, unless you just happen not to understand the terms "discussion" or even open " debate.
So, imo. your edict here for me to stop taking the focus off important posts etc.,and focus meaning ,I suppose, only the kind of posts that you yourself wish to read about,?
well, that mode of your thinking, clearly shows me, that you most definitely were in the wrong to even try to say such a thing to me, as it is evidenced by the fact,
LOL...that you soooo, overstepped the boundaries of your own respective rights, and are actually trying to step on mine. :o
Pls. note, we both are clearly equal members of this forum and are allowed to post our opinion freely and respectfully when ever it is we wish to do so.
And again to keep repeating this important point, no, there was no argument here with Supervision at all.
I only posted what I thought would be good to share with all readers and posters here, and thereafter, I saw that three posters expressed their disagreement with me, which I had said in my reply post to all three of them, that it was fine with me that they disagreed with me on points etc.
I did proceed to reply to all three posters with just one post of mine.
So I totally fail to see , exactly where it was that I SV started an argument with any of them.
Does intense intellectual and rhetorical discussion of an issue/topic and perhaps even an intense debate too, mean to equal a definition of an argument to you and others here? I do so wonder. :?
Also again, IF my posts and their very important contents imo. .totally failed to be understood by you,or you just happen to be in total disagreement about their merit and worth, as perhaps even possibly having had a chance to adding some sort of value,to the thought and outlook of other readers here, as well as including yourself, I am so sorry to see that happen.
The two posts I put up , all told, taking my own time and effort to do so,were no doubt in my mind, were really very well thought out ,if you will, were really well structured and to the point, and even prolly, instructive to some people, who may perhaps have had not even thought about the things I chose to talk about.
What is more, it seems to me, that in some instances some people may not even have had actually a single clue about the laws that actually do dictate the protection of peoples First Amendment Rights of FREEDOM of Speech, as it relates directly viz this campaign, you and other Fans of MJ are here are discussing. ;)
Now,...in conclusion, to tell you the truth I am so disappointed in some of the responses of some of the posters, but I have said what I have to say to you in particular, and you, my dear, in your turn, if you read this post at all, perhaps ,per your very suggestion above,and if you wish to do so, you can go and ignore this post of mine altogether, or reply to it, if that is your own wish again,
or do what ever it is you wish to do about it.!!!
What ever it may be you choose to do about it, Makes absolutely no difference to me whatsoever,,
just as long as you agree to respectfully stay in your place and I stay in mine, intact with our receptive rights as members of this forum, and retain both our rights to post whatever it may be we wish to share with other readers here, doing so, at any time and with whatever content we may choose to fill our own expressions and views about any issue here being discussed in this public forum.
Peace.
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by Sinderella » Wed Feb 16, 2011
Firstly-It is not my own personal drop down list,this thread was created by using what Ms Deborah French was using as guidelines for those wanting to get involved and help stop the videos and channels. If you read my previous comments you would see this is an extension of her mission.
I simply copy and pasted what she was sending out over that first weekend
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Sinderella, My apologies to you, if that was not your own initial post. ,
I may have not seen quotation marks there or perhaps did overlooked it, but nevertheless, I believed the issue was important for all concerned with this mission to really understand, so I tried to point it out in my post. Sorry about that.
I think her writing about it being a double talk is quite insignificant in the grand scheme of things IMO.
Well, I respect your opinion , but actually it is not insignificant at all, if the lady thinks all the categories listed there are just a double talk from you tube, when in reality it is the categories allowable by the law to bring forth discrimination charges, which is the main agenda of her mission?.
That sort of "loose" talk,imo. may really indicate that our “activist” lady is not at all concerned nor has taken her time to learn a few things about the law of discrimination/defamation , before she resorted to recruit other fans in the cause.
So, to me this lady, whoever she is, seems to be a bit long on gumption, and alot short on having done her homework well , as a basic requirement for an “activist” against discrimination.Sort of the blind leading the blind sort of thing if you will? ;)
Why,It seems like , she did not even have a clue that those categories listed were the law under which she is allowed to put forth and base her complaints, what ever it may be, and at all times to be honest in her complaint and also restrict herself to those allowed categories by law, and those categories only.
But here she was thinking those cats. were just “double talk” ? ha ha..
Inexcusable for her “job” description as an activist against discrimination imo.
I get that you like to go against whatever I say,this is exactly the same as your feelings on letting pedophiles publish books about Michael and whilst using his image and name gain profit.
Sinderella, I am disappointed to hear that you think what I have posted there has anything personally has to do with you. When it actually does not at all. My point as it is clarified in my post is about the importance of FREEDOM of SPEECH.
If my post sound similar here as in the book thread, , it is because the issue is still the same and only one I am trying to address, i.e. Freedom of Speech in both instances, i.e. the book and the vids etc.
And no, Sinderela, I do not feel that I am personally going against you at all, since you are just one person out of millions of MJ fans who prolly wish to participate in this campaign,though it seems you may be the organizer of sorts?. ;)
So since I do understand that you are just one voice the way I see it, I want you to know it is nothing personal at all on my part and I will still respect your choices no matter how I may not support them..
I truly believed, that my posts may have been instructive to some readers as it relates to FREEDOM of SPEECh and the First Amendment rights we all share , and I did leave it up to every reader here , to agree or disagree with what I had to say.
That is what Liberty is all about, as it covers yours as well as mine. .
If everyone was able to say and do whatever they wanted and used freedom of speech as their excuse the world would implode on itself.
There are limits to how far that excuse goes and that man from my other thread is not entitled to use it.
Well, I am not going over the same issue here again, if you feel that the author of the book after having done 8 years of research on his subject matter, is not entitled to use and/or publish his “findings” and reports, to share with the public at large, then that remains still only your own view and opinion until the law says otherwise.
And no it is not an "excuse" that this author is using as you say above in your post, but rather , he is exercising his rights for free speech, no matter how it may look to you and I as an "EXCUSE" .
So, based on the above reasoning, I believe the law maybe be on his side, and that is the real reason his book is listed at Amazon , a company, which I am sure has untold numbers of high powered attorneys to advise them about their rights to distribute this sort of material, as well as all rights concerning the author himself and his controversial material.
Neither are the people making videos about Michael .
( i,e. NO RIGHTS for FREEDOM of Speech?)
Well, the people can make the videos to express themselves which ever way they choose just as long as they do not step on someone’s rights or are in violation of the existing laws of discrimination and defamation.
If they happen to violate any of the laws concerning discrimination , I do agree, that they deserve to be punished and so..... away they go.
And in that point then, you and I are in total agreement,mind you,however , only, in a perfect world, where there may be an absence or no bias judgment against this sort of "trouble makers ".
Re. Michael Jackson and Pedophila:
He was set up and proven not guilty.
Where in any realm of the universe is it ok for people to ignore the verdict and continue on with dragging his name through the mud and making accusations that are untrue and claim it is their right to freedom of speech?!
Well, now, here you speak of several things at once.
First you seem to believe, that if a court of law finds some alleged "criminal" as not guilty, that an "acquittal of all charges" would or should automatically mean, that, that person is not guilty of the alleged charges, and is in true fact and in essence truly "Totally innocent ".
If you are thinking that, then of course I have to disagree with you, since that sort of reasoning, I am sure you do see, is not even logical to start with.
So, while I am not insinuating here anything in particular about MJ’s case in particular, but really, every fool in this world of ours knows, that justice can miscarry and money too walks and B.S. talks.
For instance,as a comparison, you recall, that O.J Simpson too was found not guilty, but for better or worse though, that man still remains guilty as hell, in the eyes of many millions of people. So it is with Mike.
Secondly, The court of Public Opinion about Mike and his "innocence" is not something that MJ fans or even his family or executors of his estate, can stop or alter forever and ever,
Especially not imo. by trying to dam other people from speaking out loud about their own take of things about Mike and his relationship with the boys etc.,coming out in the open and writing a book about it, or making a vid etc. all things protected under the individual liberty laws. FREE Speech to cite the issue here again.
I do not share your views,you will not convince me otherwise no matter long and detailed you replies are.
It was not my aim ever at all to change your mind about anything at all.
You are a free person the same as I am.
You got my blessing to do what it is you believe you must do for MJ for what ever reason of your own.
Sinderela wrote:
That is not to say I do not read them-I do and they are very well constructed and informative.
Well, thank you for taking time to read my post. :) That lets me know, that it was not a total waste of my time after all, even if the contents there, are not “accepted” and agreed with by you or other posters, at least if some did read my post, I hope they walked away with something of value from it's content etc. for themselves.
I previously agreed with you to AN EXTENT that everyone should have freedom of speech but there is a line and when someone crosses it then that right should be removed.
Well, we seem to come to an Agreement already about the line crossing etc. As I have posted to also show, that Freedom is a real Paradox.
It you and I can prove without resorting to emotional reasoning alone, that people have crossed the line so clearly, and the law agrees with us , then yes, we are in the right to demand that the laws should be respected, as a matter of course for all concerned you and I included.
I'm going to sound really blunt here but can I ask are you a Michael Jackson fan or just a hoax fan or possibly neither?
Well, I am happy to tell you, Sinderella, that I am not just an MJ fan, but actually one of those real die hard MJ fans lol.
What is more, it is true also, that I have been a fan of Michael , for at least over forty years.
I am also proud to tell you here, I never ever let no chance escape me to support MJ and also go and see the great man where ever and when ever I could
Lucky me, in my life time I did get a chance to sit front and center and see the Magic of MIke first hand. :)
Saw him perform more than a dozen times. , close and personal.
So, I am not one of those Jane come lately fans if you will and if you thought that, judging form my post etc. . ;) . Those are priceless moments I will always treasure. :)
And you Sinderella ? How long have you been admiring Mike if I may ask you a blunt question of my own in return?
Sinderella wrote:
You don't seem to appear that bothered that this man is getting books written about him,lies told about him and disgusting videos full of lies and slander put up on the internet about him.
Well, actually ,no, I do not like to see people smearing him around , but honestly though , all things being equal, and Mike is a public celebrity in the public domain and I do understand that he is thereyby an easy target for satire and jokes etc.
Nothing new there at all , as far as I can recall and remember, for me now suddenly get all out upset about it all, and to start a campaign to block people from saying wht they got to say. Respecting people's rights is all. You know? .so, yes at times I am more bothered by people's effort wrongly to try to suppress open information exchange among free people in a free country. I do not look at T.V nor read the tabs. nor have I read the book of this man yet. though I bought Halperin's book just to read anything at all to d with MJ, after 6-25-09 after such heartbreak I felt about his premature "death".
But, to resort wht I myself call a sort of coercive move of banning people, to me is a very obnoxious and ugly thing to do in a democratic society.
Besides Mike knows it is part and parcel of his fame and fortune and comes with the territory sometimes unfortunately .
Rhinoceros Skin needed as Michel himself had said many times before.
OR in the alternative, Mike had suggested ...
"Burn the tabloids ..ha ha.. :lol:
Well, in this instance then, it may the story of follow the leader , I suppose? ;)
Sinderella wrote:
He has children.
Well, I do know about the kids and all that, but, If I were MIKe KOP, known to billions of people around the world,as an almost a household word to boot, yes I would expect to see myself as well as perhaps my kids and fam etc. of running into a situation of being exposed to some things being said about their daddy/family member etc. .i.e.
some alternative/contrary views said and written about me regardless of it’s truism. ;)
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That is why celebrities hire “expert” PR people,to help mold and perpetuate the image they hope their public would admire and accept without too much of question about them .
But sometimes that sort of effort does fail, and the public just sticks to their own views no matter what .
For me it is easy to understand that how such a thing could happen .i.e. billions could not possibly agree with one voice about Mike and the boys relationship or any other matter included,even people speculating about him about his numerous plastic surgeries for instance.
Heck,what can I tell you, folks did not even agree in one voice about Jesus and his Love message, and our Lord was crucified by the world, even he did nothing wrong.
So, is Michael to be an exception to that rule or what? And if so , on what grounds and what is the possibility of people being “forced “ to accept the “innocent” verdict? Especially, when it seems clear, that they clearly still got their own doubts about Mike’s innocence?
If you were in his shoes would you want your child seeing these things being directed at you?
I am sure you would not.They deserve to be protected from the lies and slander as well as Michael.
They are an extension of him.
Well, no, and I disagree about the kids being an extension of Michael at all in a greater sense.
Those kids , I so hope, have their own individuality and I pray that folks do not look at them as Michael Jackson the “freak” kids.
No. the kids really deserve a real chance to impact the world in their own way.
The fact that they are MJ's kids in fact, may even be a hindrance to them depending who is looking at Mike’s life notwithstanding his phenomenal talent with which not many or any people in their right mind are in dispute.
As for protecting them now in their formative years about the press/yt vids and books etc. going off about their dad, well that responsibility clearly lays in the hands of their caretakers not the fans at all imo.
.We are not the ones raising these kids, we don’t know what they are allowed to see, and what they already know about MJ and bad press etc.
Maybe the kids are already being taught to be tough against such report who knows really how MJ handled it with them and now the guardians of the kids? . .
. People have been reporting the WHOLE channel and getting not only the vidoes removed but users banned.Sony and Universal have all aided this campaign and complained themselves.
A long list of channels and vidoes have been removed due to them violating YT laws so the MJ community who are working on this mission are not doing so for nothing.
If youtube disagreed they would have left them up and ignored the complaints
Good to know there is a measure of successes achieved in that direction.
Would be good idea, to list the vids indicated and see how the work will progress and check it off the list as they come down off the air if they do and how soon and for what reason etc. (just a suggestion is all ;) .
As for Sony and Universal, and their “support” and protest about this, I believe,it seems to me, that
they are more concerned with the copyright laws being abused,rather than "discrimination against Mike himself ,which issue , as I imagine would be harder to prove in court,
especially if MJ is dead now, and can not be said per se, to still sustain personal hurt anymore, though his TM name and legacy could become an issue here?
So, I feel, If these corps, were concerned so much about that, why not sue the the man with that book if they think they got a chance to block him and his book legally?
I'm sorry but I honestly do not see where you are coming from and although I appreciate your presence on the forum and your attempt to be some sort of balance I personally will not be changing my mind,how I talk or think.
You state here that you do not see where I am coming from , and that is A –OKAY by me, you do not have to see anything about what I got to say at all. :)
just keep on keeping on and do your own thing and don’t worry about what I had to say about it.
I have told you already that I am not here to try to change your mind and how you talk and think.
That is your own business not mine.
I am happy to help stop these people,if you feel otherwise that is fine but i'm not wrong for doing so.
Well, as I have said do your thing Sinderella,...what ever you feel is right...and I will do what I feel is right, which for me is to do my utmost to respect other peoples rights even when I myself bitterly disagree with their views.
After all, Freedom of Speech is not called an ideal, for nothing ;) .
As for quoting my statement of 'bringing the rain and kicking ass' three times in one post,that is a bit OTT.
Bring the rain is a term used in the military for bringing the gun fire and taking down the enemy.It is used in relation to the idea that this forum is an army and we work together to bring down the people who we feel are out of order and are doing wrong to Michael's name,legacy,children etc.
o.k., I understand ..
.as in “ Bring on the Rain.
..MJ’s ARMY of LOVE “..o.k. I got it :) .
Again,if you don't like how I talk or put things,that is not my problem.
I see you are trying to make this convo go in personal way. Where did I say that I don ‘t like HOW YOU Talk...I only quoted you is all. And I can do so for as many times as I wish in my own post? OR? and if you do not agree , I suppose that would not be my problem either . OR?
I do not have a 'wild west' approach to dealing with people,want to kick anyone in the mouth and I DO like to kick ass when the occassion calls for such action.
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O.k. whatever is your cup of tea, and I pray it may not be too often you see or feel that there is an occasion for you to have to reall KICK some ASS LOL.
BTW.Kicking ass ,and all that type of talk , to me personally, reeks of some sort of a violent impetus, ,
as I understand myself here written in your post . Could be wrong of course and you mean it as a figure of speech?. ;)
Sinderella wrote:
I am getting rather bored of having to defend my opinions,thoughts,and pesonality..to you.
ho hummmm, No one that I can see, has asked you to defend your self your personality , not to me or anyone else here at all, as far as I can see, and certainly not MOI.OR?
Sinderella, the whole matter of my post, was not to be personal with you at all. .
FREEDOM of Speech was my topic and still is..
And such then, I do not see your name listed there as it’s enemy, or even my name listed there as it’s original author or anything like that .
So, it is safe to say our discussion is not at all about our personalities, but rather is only about the issue of this campaingn and the ideal of individual liberty FOS.
Sinderella to tell you the truth ,
Well,I am also getting pretty bored by all this misunderstanding and therefore, I am done with this issue, seeing how the thing is gone well over it’s intended purpose by my initial post..
Perhaps my whole talk of such an high ideal, such as Freedom of Speech, which is a vast and quite interesting subject to discuss and debate about, as as actually done in various academic circles, and among legislators as well etc etc.,
it could really be that,who knows, that this sort of an abstract ideal,could have been way to high of an intricate thought provoking process, too complicated to be discussed here, on this venue, and on this very small thread on a hoax death forum no less. ;)
Peace to you.
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by Gema » Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:35 pm
@Supervision
Regarding "Freedom of Speech" Let´s not forget what can´t be done when using it
you are right of course , Gema, that it cuts both ways.
That is why the laws have to be protective of majority rule and monopolies on views and actions of all people in general and their perceived 'rights to shut people up etc. ..
My view in general is:
A million Chinese as the saying goes, could not shout and scream and kick about, just to make a thing be right, if it never was right and true to begin with.
As in the Gay freedom issues for instance, there are still many people in this world, that wish the Gay people would stay classified as mentally ill, and would have been forced to stay in their closet for ever and ever.
Freedom of speech has made such a huge difference there as we all know, about wht is being allowed today for Gay people to be recognized as human beings with rights of their own , and allowed to legally marry etc etc..
Gema wrote:
RE : Defamation
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/defamation#ixzz1E9TR1rad (http://www.answers.com/topic/defamation#ixzz1E9TR1rad)
Those videos are made with malice to portray Michael as something he is not and that is called Defamation.
Well, as I have said to the ladies above Gema,and in my initial post,
the law itself provides us all with a means of redress. for any legitimate discrimination charges proven with consideration and debate in the court of law i.e.through the the laws of DEFAMATION.
The issue pro freedom of speech is ,I insist still, for all of us to behave in a responsible way and at the same time , to be vigilant so that no one’s voice is suppressed based only on feelings and whims of some groups of people .That is my only concern. ;)
The difference being, that it is possible, that People may really feel violated, or they are just only really out to suppress the truth in some instances as well.
And also, you may agree, a lot of these types of complaints are purely subjective issues, that have to do with the way people feel and wish to direct their own emotion etc
Gema wrote:
I will go on reporting those who I can´t associate with. Their behavior is despicable.
O.k. you as well as I also have freedom to go against whatever we disagree with, just as long as you, as well as I, do not try to step on others rights, as I said over and over again lol.. :roll:
But , pls also keep in mind “those who you can not associate with” also have a right of their own.
And also pls. note , that your own value system should not, in any case, be anyone else's litmus test nor a guideline to be used about who is right and who is wrong either, in the greater sense of people’s liberties, to live and express themselves as they wish within the allowable laws, and that is so, even you can not, choose not to associate with them for your own reason .
Gema wrote:
Anyone can use "freedom of speech" and make a point to defend their ideals without falling in to defamation. People can do better than that to give an opinion.
Well, sure they could do better, you are right, and some are even saying they are doing better as it relates to MJ and his “sexuality” again and specifically so.
Consider, for instance the tale gone by just a year ago, about that fat boy coming out on T.V and saying he was Mike’s homosexual lover.
For which “offense” he had to call the FBI for protection of his life.
Shame, total Shame, if you ask me lol. :(
A classic example of censorship through the principle of “good old might is right”type of thingy? ;)lol ,
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Did anyone of the protesters, MJ fans I assume they were, thought about ,
What if the man was telling the truth by chance ?
Did that man not have a right to say wht he had to say, if he had wished to talk about said "relationship",
even,.... no matter he may have been at the same time exploiting his relationship with Mike etc. for his own profit or his five minutes of fame etc. in the whole bargain?
what say you fairly speaking about that Gema?
Even Dr. Klein, MJ’s doc of 25 long yrs. backed him up when the man claimed openly as having been one of Mike’s homosexual lovers, but nooooo, the fans once again did not like what this man had to say at all once again.. :roll:
Result????
..hmmm what else?
Of Course.
Threatened . ha ha... :lol: ... :lol:
Gema wrote:
Yes for banning defamation videos. Michael was proven innocent.
O.k. already answered this question above.
but..to touch briefly the issue here again, As for Mike being ‘proven” innocent etc. etc.
. Getting an Acquittal, does not mean jack S..T.,.... when it is basically a well known fact, that at times, justice can be bought, or does miscarry and therefore a verdict of “acquittal” is most definitely does not necessarily equal to an automatic total proof of “innocence” of any alleged criminal , as in the alternative also a “guilty’ verdict does not necessarily always proof a measure of total guilt.
As is well known to most of us here, some truly innocent people have been waiting around in death row for yrs and yrs on appeal, waiting to be executed, and lo and behold, by some miracle, they get sprung in the end.
. So pls.keep in mind this could very well be/is the consideration here as well. ;)
Peace. .
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/El-pasado ... ref=search (http://www.facebook.com/pages/El-pasado-OSCURO-que-Michael-Jackson-llevo-a-la-TUMBA-ESCALOFRIANTE/131805903519451?v=wall&ref=search)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9 ... ref=search (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=95087054861&v=wall&ref=search)
MashMike, do you know what these groups' names mean? What does "El pasado OSCURO que Michael Jackson llevó a la TUMBA" mean? I tried to use Google translate but didn't get what it means exactly. When we're reporting those FB groups are we going to choose "targets based on gender and orientation OR sexual explicit content? I would be appreciated if you could help. Thank you.
For the ones who reported the videos and channels, you can report them more than once. Do not give up after you once report them.
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Supervision, get out of this thread. You have stated your opinion and if you don't want to cooperate fine, but stay out of this thread.
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@Supervision,
Even if I agree with most of your last post reply to me, since you talk about the core meaning of freedom of speech and rights understanding the term defamation not being biased by emotions, and you gave good examples of it, I still will use my "freedom of speech" based on my and only perception, as it goes for the other side, up to now, I have clear what your position is and you have clear mine ;) "your freedom of speech" stops where "my freedom of speech starts" and HATE should not be used to mascarade "freedom of speech" as those channels are doing. They use hate and defamation.
Regarding Klein´s nephew I must admit that I was shocked with people´s reactions, as if to be gay is a terrible thing to be accused of.
Being gay is not criminal (at least in civilized countries..) but being a pedo is, and Michael, once again, is not.
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Supervision, get out of this thread. You have stated your opinion and if you don't want to cooperate fine, but stay out of this thread.
Thank You! Once again we'd gone WAY off topic.
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Hey PURE LOVE, u're welcome, i did a Google search and got the translation of it, it means: the michael jackson dark past that led to the grave
i report it as an targetsa race or ethnicity
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BTW here are some new malicious videos and pages to report :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOjHCVjbH_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOjHCVjbH_4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfPsQEjJnlM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfPsQEjJnlM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymz3xBR- ... playnext=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymz3xBR-IX0&feature=PlayList&p=1C83399AB273A329&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1)
http://www.youtube.com/user/WackoJackoFucksKids (http://www.youtube.com/user/WackoJackoFucksKids)
http://www.youtube.com/user/GeorgeWBushes (http://www.youtube.com/user/GeorgeWBushes)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/El-pasado ... ref=search (http://www.facebook.com/pages/El-pasado-OSCURO-que-Michael-Jackson-llevo-a-la-TUMBA-ESCALOFRIANTE/131805903519451?v=wall&ref=search)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMUSQM0s ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMUSQM0ssxU&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS__XDFiDO4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS__XDFiDO4)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9 ... ref=search (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=95087054861&v=wall&ref=search)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anti-Mich ... 1855?ref=m (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anti-Michael-Jackson/106577061855?ref=m)
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Hey PURE LOVE, u're welcome, i did a Google search and got the translation of it, it means: the michael jackson dark past that led to the grave
i report it as an targetsa race or ethnicity
Thank you so so much hun. I will do the same. :)
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Supervision, get out of this thread. You have stated your opinion and if you don't want to cooperate fine, but stay out of this thread.
God bless you Souza. Thank you.
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@ Pure Love: Always welcome ;)
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Thank you MM <3
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17th February 2011, @DeborahFfrench said:
Updated Target list & Volunteers call out to join Youtube Teams:
Your work, your amazing work is having effect. Users and videos are coming down. We need to make sure they stay down of course and we need to make sure the new ones that spring up in their place come down also.
Target these Links:
http://www.youtube.com/user/WackoJackoFucksKids
http://www.youtube.com/user/666PrinceMJackson666
http://www.youtube.com/user/lolatrape666
http://www.youtube.com/user/HouseOfPainGROUP
http://www.youtube.com/user/UltraPropofol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qTNrjlg8m4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s39Svkvaay8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfPsQEjJnlM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ1mmunh2kU&feature=relate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toNGtdqQx60&sns=em
http://www.youtube.com/user/GunnyPIG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9e7MUmyFNI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEx5bo07kU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD0Sdg4kmp4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp_QrOaOzA0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GAQfgqZQos&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4owcQmqn5AM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMhn8rlLRdo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY66dLTfs60&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDHKLajm7_U&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99RWXhYBjoM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZuCCM6K3No&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SIqaeoXWgM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6h5ZLPHdtM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5aWp681UDc
Individual videos and now USER channels are being removed on the basis of breach of copyright, racist hate speech and/or(perceived) sexuality hate speech.
This is good news. The videos ARE coming down and this is because of your work and the time and effort you are spending flagging and reporting.
We salute you.
* Special Note to those who wish to volunteer:*
Volunteers who think they have the time and strength to step up and help us counter the abuse of MJ's name and his children's right not to see their father violated on Youtube are vitally important.
In short: We need you.
If you are ready for the long haul and want to eradicate the hate speech on Youtube toward Michael, please DM or message @MJJJusticePrjct - and your name will be added to the team.
Thank you. We are so grateful.
"If we don't do it.. WHO will?"
MJJJusticePjct
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reported, thx Sinderella
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reported, thx Sinderella
Working down them myself now,if everyone hits these up today we should get a good few of them removed!!
Well done and great effort to everyone who has been taking these positive steps to getting Justice for Michael on YouTube so far,You're hard work is not going un-noticed and it IS working.
#flagday #stopthehate RT as much as you can on twitter to alert people to this mission =]
LOVE to everyone xo
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Yeah, for sure I am in!!! I am hunting for the hateful accounts and videos on youtube and complain about them. And I am going to search them in facebook. And metacafe.com too! :idea:
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I have flagged so many.. I never thought there was hate, and racism, and ugliness in these youtube videos. I saw so many of Michael it put me to tears. Why are people so mean in this world? Making fun of his nose, etc.. Listen in Holywood, how many actors and singer did plastic surgery? I don't hear them being rediculed? So what, Michael redid his nose. It is his money not mine not yours and no ones. Let him be he is his own person. That really ticked me off. Blessings and love to you all.
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In facebook there is a group called 'Stop the MJ. hate groups'. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=131699126876529 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=131699126876529)
In this group people report hateful pages. Here is the recent list by Vicky Jackson:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=96552493476 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=96552493476) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=100733782349 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=100733782349) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=136608960040 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=136608960040) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=107660925918 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=107660925918) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=209643030695 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=209643030695) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=106766957594 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=106766957594) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=115362914622 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=115362914622) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=95390268980 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=95390268980)
Join the group and report hate pages!!! Every day!!!! :idea: :arrow:
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Thanks for all of the links guys!
Been clicking on them and guess what? ALOT of them have already been reported!!
This is great news! Hopefully the hate campaign will come crumbling down!
LETS KEEP GOING! ;) ;)
(The facebook pages say that there is NO GUARANTEE that the page will be removed but it
is still worth an effort!)
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Thank you everyone who is continuing to work on this mission and it may be a slow process but we'll get there =]
As the lovelyone said,lets keep it going and fight until the 'death' haha...so to speak
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Needs to be dealt with
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wyN0qaPZNM&feature=related
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I'm reporting still but lots of people gave up. We should do this all together.
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I dispise these people.They are very think indeed.I'm very angry,
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I dispise these people.They are very thick indeed.I'm very angry,
Hi,firstly welcome to the forum
and yes they are and they do need to be stopped from putting these awful videos up.
Welcome aboard!
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Thankyou for the welcome.Michael is very lucky indeed to have so many people to stick up for him.
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You're very welcome,hope you join up as a proper member if you like it here :)
Someone has to since he is M.I.A lol
It's good that it is working so effectivley though too,the accounts ARE being removed not only because of everyone flagging but Sony and other company's are complaining too about music and image violations
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I didn't give up.
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I didn't give up.
Because you're awesome obviously :)
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I didn't give up.
Because you're awesome obviously :)
:oops:
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Weren't we supposed to do this action on every 5th of the month? What happened to that? I didn't see anyone posted something related to this issue on FB or on Twitter. Non-believers gave up I think, and some of the believers too.
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Another channel in this category: wackojackoSUCKS
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Weren't we supposed to do this action on every 5th of the month? What happened to that? I didn't see anyone posted something related to this issue on FB or on Twitter. Non-believers gave up I think, and some of the believers too.
I think Deborah never stopped,she tweets about it everyday,it is an ongoing this but you are right,it is supposed to be a monthly COMBINED effort.Something else needed attention earlier this month too though which overshadowed this, that documentary being aired and something else
People give up on everything..look at the state of the planet atm :(
As long as we don't and continue then that's all that matters.
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I am still on duty as well :geek:
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Me too, as much as it sickens me to even go to those links... :x
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i HAD TO FIGHT WITH THIS jerk for a long time...:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lidflip32 (http://www.youtube.com/user/lidflip32)
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Me too, as much as it sickens me to even go to those links... :x
Same here. I feel sick even when I read the title of the videos :x But I'm still on duty too. A couple of people can not do it. I need to start tweeting about this issue again.
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i HAD TO FIGHT WITH THIS jerk for a long time...:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lidflip32 (http://www.youtube.com/user/lidflip32)
Has not been online since some years.
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i HAD TO FIGHT WITH THIS jerk for a long time...:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lidflip32 (http://www.youtube.com/user/lidflip32)
Has not been online since some years.
Yes but he still needs to be DOWN
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i HAD TO FIGHT WITH THIS jerk for a long time...:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lidflip32 (http://www.youtube.com/user/lidflip32)
Has not been online since some years.
Yes but he still needs to be DOWN
That´s why is odd that youtube is not shutting it down after the complaints.
The owner is not even posting. I don´t understand youtube policies. The most silly videos, like a make-up tutorial i.e, are removed by copyright, and cruel videos (not only for Michael, many others regarding abuse to humans and animals) can be months up and nothing happens.
BTW, i mentioned in one of the videos i reported my opinion about it and the user left me a very nasty message :? including a "I know your ip and where you live".
Can people find my officce address this way? :shock:
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This was discussed in chat a while back, when our IP addresses were showing up on screen every time we logged in or out of chat. Apparently someone can pay a $9 fee and if they have your IP address they can ascertain your basic location, not exact location but the country at least. It sounds to me that this person was making idle threats though, these people who post these videos aren't the kind of people who can respond in any dignified way so they have to be nasty and threaten. All the more reason to get them kicked off YouTube!
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That´s sick. To pay money to know where an anonimous person lives. I never stop learning on human behaviour, yeeeeeewwwwww.
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i HAD TO FIGHT WITH THIS jerk for a long time...:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lidflip32 (http://www.youtube.com/user/lidflip32)
Has not been online since some years.
Yes but he still needs to be DOWN
That´s why is odd that youtube is not shutting it down after the complaints.
The owner is not even posting. I don´t understand youtube policies. The most silly videos, like a make-up tutorial i.e, are removed by copyright, and cruel videos (not only for Michael, many others regarding abuse to humans and animals) can be months up and nothing happens.
BTW, i mentioned in one of the videos i reported my opinion about it and the user left me a very nasty message :? including a "I know your ip and where you live".
Can people find my officce address this way? :shock:
Agree
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Here are some new links to report:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=103754958500 (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=103754958500)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cv5kpf0 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cv5kpf0H60&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbez3Tv1 ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbez3Tv1omQ&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5XAIkHd ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5XAIkHdAYg&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4jlAKJfRHI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4jlAKJfRHI)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgG1RO-7gLo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgG1RO-7gLo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZ3bvewgUE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZ3bvewgUE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPngHV_y0P4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPngHV_y0P4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPngHV_y0P4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPngHV_y0P4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_xcxpwY ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_xcxpwY5Hs&feature=player_embedded)
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Wow. what deductions some of the youtubers make :|
everyone knows wacko jacko really was a pedo child molester. people need to stop being in denial. those who say he wasn't are child molesters themselves. =]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZ3bvewgUE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoZ3bvewgUE)
Well, well, another youtuber hater.... :roll: the list is neverending.
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LOOK WHAT I FOUND HE MADE A NEW CHANNEL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMbfKoZHqxM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMbfKoZHqxM)
GET HIM!
ONE LOVE ONE VOICE THE RESISTANCE IS STRONG!
MJALIVEARMY ANGEL
L.O.V.E
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Glad to see everyone still grabbing their virtual pitch forks and taking to using them on these sick fucks who actually spend their time making these videos.
Strangest part is they actually believe Michael is the weird/sick/fill in other awful names here' one..LOL Ok,If you wanna be a deluded hypocrite.....
GO TEAM
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I'm definitely in!
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Michael: Happy Feet!
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