Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Talk => Topic started by: jill on December 21, 2009, 12:45:08 AM
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I am an intercessor, which means I pray a lot. I have had prayer "burdens" for Michael Jackson since I was about 12 years old after I went to see the Jackson 5 in concert. I think he was about 10 at the time. (Very long time ago) For the past 2 or 3 years I have been praying for him. About a couple of days before he died I prayed for him all day long. I kept getting a very uneasy feeling. I kept praying for him to be kept safe and for God to intervene in whatever was going on. When I heard the news of his "death" I was stunned and very grieved. I immediately asked God to forgive me for not praying until I had total peace. This usually means in prayer, that the prayer has been answered. When I prayed this, an OVER WHELMING sence of peace came over me. It was odd because the peace would mean the prayer was answered. Yet, it was contrary to what I was hearing in the news. God shows me a lot of things in prayer and I do not always understand what they mean. Since then I have been drawn to the possibility that he was not "dead". My biggest concern is that so many idolize him, if he does a comeback many would worship him.I pray this does not happen. He is just a man with great talent.
I guess my question is...are there other intercessors out there that were also "called" to pray for Micahel Jackson that may have experienced similar things?
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Well I have been praying for Michael really since I saw the video from the press confrence in March and after his "death" I cried one night and I asked God to open my eyes and show me what's happening and if it is a possibility he's here please show me the way and he lead me here. I knew God has been with me this whole trip and he has been opening my eyes to certain things. Now I believe in this hoax I ask God everynight if Michael is alive to keep him safe just in case he decides to come back maybe not a musical one just to let us know he's still with us and with us until the end.=)
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Well I have been praying for Michael really since I saw the video from the press confrence in March and after his "death" I cried one night and I asked God to open my eyes and show me what's happening and if it is a possibility he's here please show me the way and he lead me here. I knew God has been with me this whole trip and he has been opening my eyes to certain things. Now I believe in this hoax I ask God everynight if Michael is alive to keep him safe just in case he decides to come back maybe not a musical one just to let us know he's still with us and with us until the end.=)
I know there has to be a lot of people out there that were praying for Michael prior to his "death." Thanks for your post. I have read threads in other places where people say they have experienced peace reguarding the whole situation. It is going to be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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No problem I like to share my religious point of view on this hoax it brings out my other side and the person that really brought me here.....God :D.So thank you for making this topic my best wishes are for you=)=)
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No problem I like to share my religious point of view on this hoax it brings out my other side and the person that really brought me here.....God :D.So thank you for making this topic my best wishes are for you=)=)
I know the Word says There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed and nothing covered up that will not be brought to light. God's Word will not return to Him void but will accomplish what it has been sent out to do. Whenever I need to get to the bottom of something this is what I pray. It has never failed to bring results!
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No problem I like to share my religious point of view on this hoax it brings out my other side and the person that really brought me here.....God :D.So thank you for making this topic my best wishes are for you=)=)
I know the Word says There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed and nothing covered up that will not be brought to light. God's Word will not return to Him void but will accomplish what it has been sent out to do. Whenever I need to get to the bottom of something this is what I pray. It has never failed to bring results!
Thank you for that :D
I honestly wish I could say that I had a burden for him before June 25th. Maybe I did and did not realize it. I had started looking up youtube videos and songs and reliving memories only two weeks before. I was surprised at myself for how hard I was taking the news. Weeks went by and I could not get over it.
My mom (who is about 49 yrs old) told me that she did have a burden and it came from no where. She heard "Pray for Michael Jackson,he has the heart of David and he is searching for me". So she did until she felt peace. Then one night the same thing happened. She didnt ever think about a death or feel that there was death. After June 25th,she was like me about the whole thing and told me the story. She said she hoped she prayed enough. Before I started looking deeply into the hoax ,I did ask God for me not to be going into a obsessive waste of time, I do not feel that I have,and I do pray that wherever he is that he is safe and does have peace.
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No problem I like to share my religious point of view on this hoax it brings out my other side and the person that really brought me here.....God :D.So thank you for making this topic my best wishes are for you=)=)
I know the Word says There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed and nothing covered up that will not be brought to light. God's Word will not return to Him void but will accomplish what it has been sent out to do. Whenever I need to get to the bottom of something this is what I pray. It has never failed to bring results!
Thank you for that :D
I honestly wish I could say that I had a burden for him before June 25th. Maybe I did and did not realize it. I had started looking up youtube videos and songs and reliving memories only two weeks before. I was surprised at myself for how hard I was taking the news. Weeks went by and I could not get over it.
My mom (who is about 49 yrs old) told me that she did have a burden and it came from no where. She heard "Pray for Michael Jackson,he has the heart of David and he is searching for me". So she did until she felt peace. Then one night the same thing happened. She didnt ever think about a death or feel that there was death. After June 25th,she was like me about the whole thing and told me the story. She said she hoped she prayed enough. Before I started looking deeply into the hoax ,I did ask God for me not to be going into a obsessive waste of time, I do not feel that I have,and I do pray that wherever he is that he is safe and does have peace.
Thank you for sharing so much information. I know that when something "big" is going on God always raises up many people to pray. We all may get different perspectives on what we are praying about. He showed me things over the past 3 years that I still do not understand. I really debated on whether I should create this post or not. After I did I felt a sense of joy, and heard very clearly in my spirit the Lord say "You are a witness." I have been praying for others for about 25 years or more. This is the first time I have ever heard anything like this. If you have any insight into what this means, please let me know.
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There is alot of talk about the number seven, and decoding alot of numbers in the twitter posts.
One thing that really stood out to me, was the fact that the dead ? body of MJ, was wrapped in a white sheet, just like Jesus. That was a dead give away....the had the coroners blue bag, but notice how they didn't use it, cause they wanted all of us to see it. Another big clue is the no. 7 that everyone talks about........this is the biblical meaning of 7.
Seven, by Itself
But now turning to the number Seven, we must first consider the meaning of the word.
In the Hebrew, seven is (ba#$e (shevah). It is from the root (ba#$&af (savah), to be full or satisfied, have enough of. Hence the meaning of the word "seven" is dominated by this root, for on the seventh day God rested from the work of Creation. It was full and complete, and good and perfect. Nothing could be added to it or taken from it without marring it. Hence the word tba#$af (Shavath), to cease, desist, rest, and tb@af#$a Shabbath, Sabbath, or day of rest. This root runs through various languages; e.g., Sanscrit, saptan; Zend., hapta; Greek, epta (hepta); Latin, septem. All these preserve the "t," which in the Semitic and Teutonic languages is dropped out; e.g. Gothic, sibun; German, sieben; English, seven.
It is seven, therefore, that stamps with perfection and completeness that in connection with which it is used. Of time, it tells of the Sabbath, and marks off the week of seven days, which, artificial as it may seem to be, is universal and immemorial in its observance amongst all nations and in all times. It tells of that eternal Sabbath-keeping which remains for the people of God in all its everlasting perfection.
In the creative works of God, seven completes the colors of the spectrum and rainbow, and satisfies in music the notes of the scale. In each of these the eighth is only a repetition of the first.
Then Jesus was ressurected........wow....unbelievable how clever he is.
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I have been reading this website and others since June 25. I was more of a fan of the Jackson 5 than Michael. When Michael was at the peak of his career, I was busy taking care of a family and nurturing a career…yes, I’m old.
But like many of you, I was inexplicably drawn to his death but more importantly his life. Through all of you, I discovered an incredible human being whose music was the least important of his talents or his purpose here on earth.. I have waited to post any response until I saw this topic.
I will state that I’m not a religious person but extremely spiritual. I strongly believe that my life has often been guided by prayer and that my prayers have often been answered through others. There are no coincidences in life. For some divine reason, I think all of us who are attracted to the events starting with June 25 also have a mission to accomplish and perhaps this event has triggered that. I have attempted to not make a judgment concerning whether Michael is alive or dead, but rather what my purpose is in connection to his life and/or death.
There are 2 bible verses that are continually in my mind when I read your postings in relation to Michael’s life.
I hope these don’t offend anyone, as I said I’m spiritual…not religious. I will quote from the King James just because I think the language is beautiful.
So if Michael has a spiritual connection to God, why did he encounter the horrible mistreatment and why would God allowed it? I refer to the incredible Joseph of the Old Testament who I believe is more akin to Michael’s life than the Messiah (but Joseph is also a prototype of the Messiah.)
I will not go into the background and hope that you will do so, but when Joseph is reunited with his family who has sold him into slavery many years ago, this is his explanation. Please understand that “family” in this sense is not biological family but the world in general…meaning all of those who betrayed Michael.
Genesis 50:20 But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.[/b]
The other verse that comes to mind as we talk about when or if Michael will appear is the following:
Joel 2:25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpillar, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
I think in Michael’s life, this is what is occurring right now. However, understand that what God has for Michael for restoration may not be what we want.
Again, I think that everyone who is a believer in the hoax is also in the midst of restoration. I have minimized the time I’ve spent in wondering about return dates, trying to find additional hoax data, etc. I’m focused on what this means to and in my life. What is it that I need to do to emulate the servant that Michael was? How can I perpetuate the message of love, truth and yes…forgiveness that Michael lived and believed? If I don’t do this, this I think we have all missed the greatest message of Michael Jackson’s life and the purpose of his being.
I have implemented small changes, but I think for all of us there is something greater than even we can imagine. I maintain an open heart.
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I have been reading this website and others since June 25. I was more of a fan of the Jackson 5 than Michael. When Michael was at the peak of his career, I was busy taking care of a family and nurturing a career…yes, I’m old.
But like many of you, I was inexplicably drawn to his death but more importantly his life. Through all of you, I discovered an incredible human being whose music was the least important of his talents or his purpose here on earth.. I have waited to post any response until I saw this topic.
I will state that I’m not a religious person but extremely spiritual. I strongly believe that my life has often been guided by prayer and that my prayers have often been answered through others. There are no coincidences in life. For some divine reason, I think all of us who are attracted to the events starting with June 25 also have a mission to accomplish and perhaps this event has triggered that. I have attempted to not make a judgment concerning whether Michael is alive or dead, but rather what my purpose is in connection to his life and/or death.
There are 2 bible verses that are continually in my mind when I read your postings in relation to Michael’s life.
I hope these don’t offend anyone, as I said I’m spiritual…not religious. I will quote from the King James just because I think the language is beautiful.
So if Michael has a spiritual connection to God, why did he encounter the horrible mistreatment and why would God allowed it? I refer to the incredible Joseph of the Old Testament who I believe is more akin to Michael’s life than the Messiah (but Joseph is also a prototype of the Messiah.)
I will not go into the background and hope that you will do so, but when Joseph is reunited with his family who has sold him into slavery many years ago, this is his explanation. Please understand that “family” in this sense is not biological family but the world in general…meaning all of those who betrayed Michael.
Genesis 50:20 But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.[/b]
The other verse that comes to mind as we talk about when or if Michael will appear is the following:
Joel 2:25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpillar, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.
I think in Michael’s life, this is what is occurring right now. However, understand that what God has for Michael for restoration may not be what we want.
Again, I think that everyone who is a believer in the hoax is also in the midst of restoration. I have minimized the time I’ve spent in wondering about return dates, trying to find additional hoax data, etc. I’m focused on what this means to and in my life. What is it that I need to do to emulate the servant that Michael was? How can I perpetuate the message of love, truth and yes…forgiveness that Michael lived and believed? If I don’t do this, this I think we have all missed the greatest message of Michael Jackson’s life and the purpose of his being.
I have implemented small changes, but I think for all of us there is something greater than even we can imagine. I maintain an open heart.
Thank you so much for this! What a beautiful post!
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I been praying for Michael every night since June 25 and the Lord has showed me many different thing.I believe in my heart that he is alive and well but will he come back to perform and entertain again I not real sure about that. but I do know my faith has kept me strong though this and I know God never closes and door without opening a window so whatever happen I know in time God will make it right.
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but I do know my faith has kept me strong though this and I know God never closes and door without opening a window so whatever happen I know in time God will make it right.
Thanks for that! Yes He surely will
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I always kept Michael in my heart and I've always wish for his well being. But after the 25th of June something happened to me. I had always been on the fence about God. I've went from completely believing he never existed to him now being my complete motivation behind everything I do now. Losing Michael, someone I thought would be here until the end of time, "died". I've become a more spritual being. I look at life differently. The way he carried himself in public and his morals he stood by has become an inspiration for me. I have now become more interested in living my life the right way. Yes, I still make mistakes but now I turn them into lesson learned. Geez..I just gave you guys half of my life story lol :oops:
But back on topic..I do pray for Michael and his family. Prayer changes things. I put my faith in God not in mankind because they will fail you almost everytime. So, I pray for his safety, his health, his mind, and most of all his soul. I also pray for his and his families strength. And I pray for his fans and my hoax family members because we need it to continue to press on in love and truth.
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I always kept Michael in my heart and I've always wish for his well being. But after the 25th of June something happened to me. I had always been on the fence about God. I've went from completely believing he never existed to him now being my complete motivation behind everything I do now. Losing Michael, someone I thought would be here until the end of time, "died". I've become a more spritual being. I look at life differently. The way he carried himself in public and his morals he stood by has become an inspiration for me. I have now become more interested in living my life the right way. Yes, I still make mistakes but now I turn them into lesson learned. Geez..I just gave you guys half of my life story lol :oops:
But back on topic..I do pray for Michael and his family. Prayer changes things. I put my faith in God not in mankind because they will fail you almost everytime. So, I pray for his safety, his health, his mind, and most of all his soul. I also pray for his and his families strength. And I pray for his fans and my hoax family members because we need it to continue to press on in love and truth.
simply amazing!
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I always kept Michael in my heart and I've always wish for his well being. But after the 25th of June something happened to me. I had always been on the fence about God. I've went from completely believing he never existed to him now being my complete motivation behind everything I do now. Losing Michael, someone I thought would be here until the end of time, "died". I've become a more spritual being. I look at life differently. The way he carried himself in public and his morals he stood by has become an inspiration for me. I have now become more interested in living my life the right way. Yes, I still make mistakes but now I turn them into lesson learned. Geez..I just gave you guys half of my life story lol :oops:
But back on topic..I do pray for Michael and his family. Prayer changes things. I put my faith in God not in mankind because they will fail you almost every time. So, I pray for his safety, his health, his mind, and most of all his soul. I also pray for his and his families strength. And I pray for his fans and my hoax family members because we need it to continue to press on in love and truth.
I agree with you! My life has extremely changed with his "death". I was not aware of things, but God brought me to the light. I even rededicated my life to Christ. I pray for Michael and I know that God has something greater for him that we and he might not be aware of. I believe that this is not a coincidence, but its a divine appointment from God. Me too, I am not religious at all. I have definitely become more spiritual and more connected with God than ever before.
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Hi everyone. I just want to say that a similar thing happened to me also. I too saw J5 as a little girl when they toured here in Australia. Then as I grew up and raised my family, I kind of moved on with my own life. I was in the UK visitting my daughter when news Mike was gone hit. It was something to see people everywhere over the world coming together and reflecting on the genius that is MJ. The DJ's were all playing his music, waiting at heathrow his music was coming out of the speakers. I witnessed people doing group thriller dance in the train station at Zurich. But then I came home and that's when I began to cry and cry and cry. And the reason that it affected me so much was that I somehow began to catch a small glimpse into what he had to endure. Being publicly humiliated and villified ,lied about and dare I say this without appearing blasphemous? He mightn't have been crucified physically, but he sure was in every other way possible. By the media and I believe strategically attacked by something purely demonic that was operating through people to bring him down. During this time of constant crying, I found that I would pray constantly that God would vindicate MJ. I would quote scriptures that I could remember such as Lord you said that those who give to the poor lend to the Lord and you said you would repay so I'm reminding you of all that Michael has given to the sick and the needy. And for his children ect. Then TII came out and I was there to see it and had to go back again and then again. I was watering my vege garden and talking to my husband soon after and said it's such a shame that MJ didn't fake his death as he's on top of the charts again, movies a great success and out of debt. And as I said this the penny dropped and I understood, hey, that was too good for mere rehersal footage, and that death date was so convenient. Then everything else started to gell such as why the memorial left me feeling weird. And why there seemed to be no closure for me. Sorry for such a long first post, but then googled for the first time in late october, Michael Jackson Alive and I realized so many others have been experiencing the same thing. And here we are.
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It's amazing the same thing is happening to so many people! I, like you was around when he was just a child with the Jackson 5. Over the years I didn't pay much attention to his music or the media frenzy. Although I would be very disheartened every time something negative was being reported about him; especially the trial in 2005. I knew he was innocent, but no one around me agreed with me. I had been getting prayer burdens for for him since about 2005. At that time the Lord kept telling me "There's a lot more going on than you know". When I heard the news of his "passing" it struck me really hard. I was dumbfounded by the sense of grief I felt. I started watching his videos on line and was really taken by how talented he really is. That is when I came across a death hoax video on Youtube. I started searching and found this site.
So many people have similar stories. God is truly involved in this. It will be amazing to see what comes out of it. The Word says "All things work together for Good those that love the Lord and are called according to His will and purpose." It's great to hear how many people are turning and seeking the Lord because of this! Angels are rejoicing!
It is encouraging to hear how many people He (God) has raised up to pray for this situation. I can't wait to see the final result.
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Jill, thanks so much for starting this topic. I have been tentative about bringing this up because I know the focus is understandably on the hoax, his reappearance, etc. But I am receiving very distinct spiritual intuitions that there is much more to this and Michael's purpose than just reclaiming his musical career. In fact, when I left the theatre after viewing "This is It," I felt very sad as if there had been a death. I realized later that it's not the physical death I was sad about, but a "death" or ending of his career as we had known it. Whatever is going to happen in the future, I believe will be be some sort of "spiritual" revival message for the world. I'm beginning to think that his enormous talents were only the physical medium used to convey a spiritual message to the world.
I'm in continual prayer about this because I don't think with my finite mind and even with the faith of a mustard seed, that I can possibly understand what it can be. I only know that I feel a constant urge to pray and all of these responses to your original "prayer" message confirms that others are feeling the same thing.
Maybe what Michael is asking for are prayer warriors to see him through this difficult time and whatever is in the future. If it is as big as I think it is, I can't even imagine the physical and spiritual obstacles he may encounter.
I would be interested in your thoughts--
Thanks so much for your testimonials and your affirmations.
- Always growing in the knowledge of His love.
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simply amazing!
Oh Thanks Neverlandprincess
I really think we all have carried a burden for Michael in our subconscious.
Michael has been embedded in our hearts. I think most people felt Michael's pain.
Most of us never knew Michael personally or not got the chance to meet him.
But something connected us him to him in a spritual way.
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I always kept Michael in my heart and I've always wish for his well being. But after the 25th of June something happened to me. I had always been on the fence about God. I've went from completely believing he never existed to him now being my complete motivation behind everything I do now. Losing Michael, someone I thought would be here until the end of time, "died". I've become a more spritual being. I look at life differently. The way he carried himself in public and his morals he stood by has become an inspiration for me. I have now become more interested in living my life the right way. Yes, I still make mistakes but now I turn them into lesson learned. Geez..I just gave you guys half of my life story lol :oops:
But back on topic..I do pray for Michael and his family. Prayer changes things. I put my faith in God not in mankind because they will fail you almost everytime. So, I pray for his safety, his health, his mind, and most of all his soul. I also pray for his and his families strength. And I pray for his fans and my hoax family members because we need it to continue to press on in love and truth.
Thank you so much for this post! What a beautiful prayer for Michael and the members of this site. It was a delight to read this. Many blessings to you!
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I always kept Michael in my heart and I've always wish for his well being. But after the 25th of June something happened to me. I had always been on the fence about God. I've went from completely believing he never existed to him now being my complete motivation behind everything I do now. Losing Michael, someone I thought would be here until the end of time, "died". I've become a more spritual being. I look at life differently. The way he carried himself in public and his morals he stood by has become an inspiration for me. I have now become more interested in living my life the right way. Yes, I still make mistakes but now I turn them into lesson learned. Geez..I just gave you guys half of my life story lol :oops:
But back on topic..I do pray for Michael and his family. Prayer changes things. I put my faith in God not in mankind because they will fail you almost every time. So, I pray for his safety, his health, his mind, and most of all his soul. I also pray for his and his families strength. And I pray for his fans and my hoax family members because we need it to continue to press on in love and truth.
I agree with you! My life has extremely changed with his "death". I was not aware of things, but God brought me to the light. I even rededicated my life to Christ. I pray for Michael and I know that God has something greater for him that we and he might not be aware of. I believe that this is not a coincidence, but its a divine appointment from God. Me too, I am not religious at all. I have definitely become more spiritual and more connected with God than ever before.
Thank you for this. It is so encouraging to hear different experiences of what God is doing in all of this. By the way, welcome back! God's always been right there with you, watching over you and protecting you. Many blessings to you in the coming year!
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Jill, thanks so much for starting this topic. I have been tentative about bringing this up because I know the focus is understandably on the hoax, his reappearance, etc. But I am receiving very distinct spiritual intuitions that there is much more to this and Michael's purpose than just reclaiming his musical career. In fact, when I left the theatre after viewing "This is It," I felt very sad as if there had been a death. I realized later that it's not the physical death I was sad about, but a "death" or ending of his career as we had known it. Whatever is going to happen in the future, I believe will be be some sort of "spiritual" revival message for the world. I'm beginning to think that his enormous talents were only the physical medium used to convey a spiritual message to the world.
I'm in continual prayer about this because I don't think with my finite mind and even with the faith of a mustard seed, that I can possibly understand what it can be. I only know that I feel a constant urge to pray and all of these responses to your original "prayer" message confirms that others are feeling the same thing.
Maybe what Michael is asking for are prayer warriors to see him through this difficult time and whatever is in the future. If it is as big as I think it is, I can't even imagine the physical and spiritual obstacles he may encounter.
I would be interested in your thoughts--
Thanks so much for your testimonials and your affirmations.
- Always growing in the knowledge of His love.
Rita,
Thanks so much! Your posts are refreshing and encouraging. I sent you a private message. You can access it at the top of the page!
Jill
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Glad to see this. Didn't even realize this was on the forum. :)
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Something big is getting ready to happen! I can feel it! It's like electricity in the air!
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Oh yeah.
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can i just say........i read something from the bible everyday..i..choose randomly as that is how i like to read...........the other day i opened at ...daniel chapter 10...verse 21..........where daniel is being comforted........."however,I will tell you what is inscribed in the writing of truth.Yet there is no one who stands firmly with me against theses forces ecept micheal your prince".........xxxx
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can i just say........i read something from the bible everyday..i..choose randomly as that is how i like to read...........the other day i opened at ...daniel chapter 10...verse 21..........where daniel is being comforted........."however,I will tell you what is inscribed in the writing of truth.Yet there is no one who stands firmly with me against theses forces ecept micheal your prince".........xxxx
I read the same way and that is that is the same one I read today. The arch angel Michael is appointed to watch over Israel. I believe God has had His hand on Michael Jackson all his life.
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there you go then....i rest my case..........xxxxx
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:) :mrgreen: :ugeek:
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I was just reading a beautiful blog piece about Michael and his faith in God. I thought I'd share it with you.
http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/20 ... overb.html (http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/2010/03/march-31-2010-michael-proverb.html)
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thanks for that......i have always believed micheal to be NO ordinary person........a blessed and good man........and the more you study him ,the clearer that is......imo of course....xxxxx
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I was just reading a beautiful blog piece about Michael and his faith in God. I thought I'd share it with you.
http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/20 ... overb.html (http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/2010/03/march-31-2010-michael-proverb.html)
Thank you so much for this post. It is wonderful to see such a positive light shown on Michael and his faith in God. It is beautifully written and poignant.
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I posted this in another thread (viewtopic.php?f=48&t=8137 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=8137)) but wanted to post it here as well.
Steve Harvey, on his radio show this past July, tells the story of the time he took Michael to church with him, and what the pastor told Michael that day.
[youtube:2asj33t5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SatlK8TMp9M&feature=related[/youtube:2asj33t5]
[youtube:2asj33t5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htI6oKu4OpM&feature=related[/youtube:2asj33t5]
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Jill,
Here is the link.
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Just finished to listening to the Steve Harvey tribute and the blog about MJ. They were both great. Just see how MJ really did make alot of impact in many people lives both young and old. It shows that even though he sung secular music that God still loved him and had a purpose for him. I like where one posted here that MJ had a heart for David. This is what got David through his troubles because his heart and passion was to please God even when he messed up and when he had his weakest moments. See, pride and vanity will not prosper you and it will destroy you. Your true humbleness and your yearning for God will open doors for you and God will be there for you. This is what MJ desire were as I listen to many of the interviews especially with the one about being like little children. It was so simple for him to understand yet we have many who say they are believers who can't even understand it. Sorry, I had to go there on that one. But this is where his faith was taking him and this is what moves the Lord(Jehovah), your faith.
Have a blessed day 2 day. I needed to go back and read all of this again. :D
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Jill, thank you very much for this starting this. I have found myself praying a lot these past months. I used to have a very...hm, how do I say it best..."conflicting" relationship with God and religion. I have always believed in God but I've had some cruel experiences (Some years ago, I was an exchange student abroad and my host family was in a cult, they wanted to baptize me and tried to brainwash me - story in a nutshell). However, I've always thanked God for the gift of living and the good things that I get to experience. Still, I'm not sure if I would consider myself a "very spiritual" or "very religious" person. Prayer gives me peace and I frequently pay for Michael the same way I pray for my friends. I pray for him to be healthy, alive, and happy. It gives me peace when I feel down and low.
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@ Kuekston...thanks so much for posting your experience and thoughts. It is uplifting to hear how many are being drawn back into His presence and being directed here by His hand!
I believe we have all been drawn here by the Lord for a great purpose. His ways are higher than our ways and His thoughts than our thoughts. Let's seek God in unison for direction and wisdom for prayer for Michael and for Him to reveal His divine purpose in all of this. I am amazed at te response that has come to this post. It is so much more than I expected. Lets keep encouraging one another and seeking Him for guidance in this. I am sure He will reveal the truth soon. Love and blessings to all of you!
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@ Kueston,
I just want to encourage that you are right where God wants you to be. Seeking his heart. See it is not about how "religious" you are or how super spiritual you have to be. Maybe you don't know the entire Bible from Genesis to Revelation. It's about seeking him. If you are genuinely humbled to search for Him, you will find Him while He is near. It's about seeking to know Him. Knowing Him means developing and buildig a relationship. I always tell people if you want to know who He is go first to Genesis 1.
(Seek Ye first the kingdom of God and all things will be added unto you.
Many will take for granted that there is no coincidence that there are many who have been led or drawn here to this forum.
@ Jill, you are right. There is a purpose for all of this regardless of the final outcome.
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I have a church experience and NO WAY am I comparing Michael with Jesus at all. :D The church thing was this i asked God please give me signs Michael is still alive and the song "Don't Cry" came on and i will let you listen I got scared then i said thank you Jesus for this ;) Then i heard "He's Not Dead" I was in shock :shock:
Well that was my experience for you :D
Here's the link to the song please listen it was kinda scary at first and it makes me cry :cry:
[youtube:12svcubd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnAtsV-fxj4&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:12svcubd]
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@MJ5starchick....Thank you so much for posting the video. What is a beautiful song! I had not heard it before. God speaks to me the same way sometimes, so that is at least two of us.
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@Jill My pleasure :P I'm glad you like the song because I do 2 it keeps me with strength :D I'm also glad he talks to you that same way because it is the best thing for me with all these signs he has brought me to and showed me ;)
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I know what you mean about intercessory prayer. God will drop people in your spiritual being to pray for. You may not know exactly what they are going through but you feel a strong urge to keep them in prayer. I believe God put it in your spirit to pray for MJ for a reason. I feel in my spirit that he's still alive too. Lately I've been praying for the celebrity and Hollywood community. I just feel like there is such an unhappiness with them despite fame and money. That's why so many are turning to drugs and other devices. Anyway it's like when you pray to God everyday he helps you to be in tune with things that's going on around you and in the world. He will give you clarity and wisdom about things that you don't understand. So I think that's awesome. I also love that song by Kirk Franklin it's so encouraging. I also believe that Michael really did have the love of God in his heart. He always say that his talent come from God and I've heard him speak of God in interviews. I believe if you're covered by God there is no demonic or evil force that can touch you no matter what.
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I am an intercessor, which means I pray a lot. I have had prayer "burdens" for Michael Jackson since I was about 12 years old after I went to see the Jackson 5 in concert. I think he was about 10 at the time. (Very long time ago) For the past 2 or 3 years I have been praying for him. About a couple of days before he died I prayed for him all day long. I kept getting a very uneasy feeling. I kept praying for him to be kept safe and for God to intervene in whatever was going on. When I heard the news of his "death" I was stunned and very grieved. I immediately asked God to forgive me for not praying until I had total peace. This usually means in prayer, that the prayer has been answered. When I prayed this, an OVER WHELMING sence of peace came over me. It was odd because the peace would mean the prayer was answered. Yet, it was contrary to what I was hearing in the news. God shows me a lot of things in prayer and I do not always understand what they mean. Since then I have been drawn to the possibility that he was not "dead". My biggest concern is that so many idolize him, if he does a comeback many would worship him.I pray this does not happen. He is just a man with great talent.
I guess my question is...are there other intercessors out there that were also "called" to pray for Micahel Jackson that may have experienced similar things?
Oh wow, the first thing I thought when I saw the title of your thread was "great there is another intecessor on this site" this is one of my gifts God has blessed me with, I interceed for alot of people, Micheal included, and have been praying for him, and his family for months now. God also shows me things in my dreams sometimes, that I do not understand, but I have a very dear close christian sister who usually will interpret the dreams for me. Yes you are right idolization can be very easy to do, most of the time it is something subconsious.
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msteetee34 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:14 am
I know what you mean about intercessory prayer. God will drop people in your spiritual being to pray for. You may not know exactly what they are going through but you feel a strong urge to keep them in prayer. I believe God put it in your spirit to pray for MJ for a reason. I feel in my spirit that he's still alive too. Lately I've been praying for the celebrity and Hollywood community. I just feel like there is such an unhappiness with them despite fame and money. That's why so many are turning to drugs and other devices. Anyway it's like when you pray to God everyday he helps you to be in tune with things that's going on around you and in the world. He will give you clarity and wisdom about things that you don't understand. So I think that's awesome. I also love that song by Kirk Franklin it's so encouraging. I also believe that Michael really did have the love of God in his heart. He always say that his talent come from God and I've heard him speak of God in interviews. I believe if you're covered by God there is no demonic or evil force that can touch you no matter what.
Mstee, thanks for sharing this.
It is like this with me. People come in my heart and I just pray for them. You are right, you will get a very urge to pray for someone or something and not realize what is going on but you just know that something is wrong. One time I had a very strong urge to pray for someone who I hadn't seen in a long time. I really felt that the enemy was going to attack them with "death" and I begin to pray for them heavily. So, you may not know for sure the details but just knowing that the Lord want us to be obedient. Some time ago, I had had dreams of Michael. I have been praying for this entire situation and the family. There are a few individuals in Hollywood and Entertainment alone that I have been praying for. I had dreams about these two people who I will not say at this time. One of the entertainers i will say in my dream had died and I woke up that morning was an urge to pray for them. So, God will speak to you in your dreams and direction. If we seek Him while He may be found, He will give us direction but we have to do that because if we seek in our emotions and in our flesh, we will only become more discourage and disappointed. I agree with you, when you are praying more you do become more and more in tune. :D
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themjkiss » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:27 am
jill wrote:
I am an intercessor, which means I pray a lot. I have had prayer "burdens" for Michael Jackson since I was about 12 years old after I went to see the Jackson 5 in concert. I think he was about 10 at the time. (Very long time ago) For the past 2 or 3 years I have been praying for him. About a couple of days before he died I prayed for him all day long. I kept getting a very uneasy feeling. I kept praying for him to be kept safe and for God to intervene in whatever was going on. When I heard the news of his "death" I was stunned and very grieved. I immediately asked God to forgive me for not praying until I had total peace. This usually means in prayer, that the prayer has been answered. When I prayed this, an OVER WHELMING sence of peace came over me. It was odd because the peace would mean the prayer was answered. Yet, it was contrary to what I was hearing in the news. God shows me a lot of things in prayer and I do not always understand what they mean. Since then I have been drawn to the possibility that he was not "dead". My biggest concern is that so many idolize him, if he does a comeback many would worship him.I pray this does not happen. He is just a man with great talent.
I guess my question is...are there other intercessors out there that were also "called" to pray for Micahel Jackson that may have experienced similar things?
Oh wow, the first thing I thought when I saw the title of your thread was "great there is another intecessor on this site" this is one of my gifts God has blessed me with, I interceed for alot of people, Micheal included, and have been praying for him, and his family for months now. God also shows me things in my dreams sometimes, that I do not understand, but I have a very dear close christian sister who usually will interpret the dreams for me. Yes you are right idolization can be very easy to do, most of the time it is something subconsious.
themjkiss,
I am sure there are. :D
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i am so happy you posted this...
me too I wish IF MJ will come back,nobody would start idolizing him as a God...as you just said,he is a great human being,talented by God,as he said of himself...
some people in some website talked about him comig back for Easter as Jesus..and this scared me a lot...
I am a God and jesus believer, and believe to the MJ hoax is something different..
Well,about my prayers experience,since 25 june,there has been something I have to tell you.
I prayed God,if Michael was really dead,to welcome him and forgive any of his sins..(as a human,everybody has).
But I also prayed,if Michael is alive,to give me some sort of peace inside of me,or any kind of answer.
That same night I dreamt of Michael.I will be short...
We were just having a walk around,me and him. That was an amazing feeling to explain...I felt so close to him,and so relaxed...He was not the king of pop..he was very "human",... we laughed together and had nice time...then..at a point,I just stopped walking ,and asked him: so,if you are here with me,it means you are alive,don't you? I was saying this with my heart beating so fast..I was scared for the answer...
he started giggling (so cute,the way he does..)..and he relied back: "Of course I am alive!..but.. well..(and his eyes turned a bit sad..) I am alive,yes, in your dreams..."
This was kind of a sad ending...Someway ,he was saying he was dead,but alive in my heart.
I dreamt many other times of him..the dreams were always peacefull, full of love, but also denied any hoax chance..
I just hope..those are just dreams...
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mmz » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:49 pm
i am so happy you posted this...
me too I wish IF MJ will come back,nobody would start idolizing him as a God...as you just said,he is a great human being,talented by God,as he said of himself...
some people in some website talked about him comig back for Easter as Jesus..and this scared me a lot...
I am a God and jesus believer, and believe to the MJ hoax is something different..
Well,about my prayers experience,since 25 june,there has been something I have to tell you.
I prayed God,if Michael was really dead,to welcome him and forgive any of his sins..(as a human,everybody has).
But I also prayed,if Michael is alive,to give me some sort of peace inside of me,or any kind of answer.
That same night I dreamt of Michael.I will be short...
We were just having a walk around,me and him. That was an amazing feeling to explain...I felt so close to him,and so relaxed...He was not the king of pop..he was very "human",... we laughed together and had nice time...then..at a point,I just stopped walking ,and asked him: so,if you are here with me,it means you are alive,don't you? I was saying this with my heart beating so fast..I was scared for the answer...
he started giggling (so cute,the way he does..)..and he relied back: "Of course I am alive!..but.. well..(and his eyes turned a bit sad..) I am alive,yes, in your dreams..."
This was kind of a sad ending...Someway ,he was saying he was dead,but alive in my heart.
I dreamt many other times of him..the dreams were always peacefull, full of love, but also denied any hoax chance..
I just hope..those are just dreams...
MMZ,
Don't be discourage to what I am about to say. Just pray. I have had dreams where they didn't make sense but have to take before God. Write them down. If they are of Him, it will come to pass. But not all dreams are coming from God.
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msteetee34 » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:14 am
I know what you mean about intercessory prayer. God will drop people in your spiritual being to pray for. You may not know exactly what they are going through but you feel a strong urge to keep them in prayer. I believe God put it in your spirit to pray for MJ for a reason. I feel in my spirit that he's still alive too. Lately I've been praying for the celebrity and Hollywood community. I just feel like there is such an unhappiness with them despite fame and money. That's why so many are turning to drugs and other devices. Anyway it's like when you pray to God everyday he helps you to be in tune with things that's going on around you and in the world. He will give you clarity and wisdom about things that you don't understand. So I think that's awesome. I also love that song by Kirk Franklin it's so encouraging. I also believe that Michael really did have the love of God in his heart. He always say that his talent come from God and I've heard him speak of God in interviews. I believe if you're covered by God there is no demonic or evil force that can touch you no matter what.
Mstee, thanks for sharing this.
It is like this with me. People come in my heart and I just pray for them. You are right, you will get a very urge to pray for someone or something and not realize what is going on but you just know that something is wrong. One time I had a very strong urge to pray for someone who I hadn't seen in a long time. I really felt that the enemy was going to attack them with "death" and I begin to pray for them heavily. So, you may not know for sure the details but just knowing that the Lord want us to be obedient. Some time ago, I had had dreams of Michael. I have been praying for this entire situation and the family. There are a few individuals in Hollywood and Entertainment alone that I have been praying for. I had dreams about these two people who I will not say at this time. One of the entertainers i will say in my dream had died and I woke up that morning was an urge to pray for them. So, God will speak to you in your dreams and direction. If we seek Him while He may be found, He will give us direction but we have to do that because if we seek in our emotions and in our flesh, we will only become more discourage and disappointed. I agree with you, when you are praying more you do become more and more in tune. :D
You're welcome. God is love and God is good.
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I just had a chance to listen to the song above. Beautiful! I have to listen to it again. It moved me to tears. :)
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@mmz....I have also had a couple of dreams about Michael that were not good ones. However, whenever I pray I get peace. Some dreams are just that, dreams. I have noticed when it is a dream from God, it is totally different. To me, they are unusually clear, easy to remember and gives you information. Sometimes the meaning can be hard to decipher, but with time the meaning will come to light. I am glad you shared your experience with us all. Love to you, Jill.
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Glad to see this. Didn't even realize this was on the forum. :)
Neither did I. What a tremendous blessing this thread is to me. I cried, I laughed, my heart is so full of joy to find others like myself. I am most thankful to the Lord for guiding me here today.
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@Angel...I'm glad you found it to! Many of us have been posting how God lead us here because of the "death" of MJ. Please share your experience here if you want to. It is amazing how similar many of the stories are. Blessings....
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How really strange! I've been really wavering the last few days about whether Michael is alive. I thought seriously I should let go...I think it was the Orianthi/Neverland thing. I thought tonight that whenever that happens, I always get some kind of message to continue on. I read the posts for today and I was ready to give up when I clicked on Jill's intecessor message. I hadn't read that one for a very long time.
I guess this was my message...I have to say that spiritually God has done a lot of incredible things in my life...but this spiritual connection to all of you and to Michael is beyond anything I've ever experienced. I still don't know why...but I keep praying.
I do not know where any of this will end, but I do know that I'm meant to stay the course with all of you and with Michael. This is definitely a true walk of faith and of things unseen.
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@Rita...I'm glad you are staying! We need you! I have thought so many times of leaving as well. I just keep getting brought back here.
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Thank you, Jill. Since June 25, 2009, I have had a great burden for Michael, my spirit grieving for him in a way unknown before. I believe he must be very special in the eyes of God for this phenomenon to occur with so many of us. It's as though we are compelled to intercede for him, to defend him, and to unite with fellow prayer warriors for this purpose.
In my case, maybe it is the parallels in interests and personalities that are relevant. I was the quiet, shy, compliant child labeled "different" and "unusual", a precocious reader, musician, and singer, who only transformed behind a microphone and keyboard, except it was as praise and worship leader, and the audience was my Creator. That was what I was designed for, to give Him praise. May we all be vessels used by God to accomplish what he places on our hearts. Love and blessings to you all.
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HI.I am glad to find this thread again, it seemed to have disappeared for a while.Having not paid that much attention to Micheal Jackson and his music post j5 days( with the exeption of Thriller , which has also demanded my full attention whereever I was when I saw the video) I am not all that up on him and his life. I have been only slightly aware of most of the details. When I heard of his death I was quite saddened . Much in the way as with Elvis Presley. But for some reason could not shake it off like with Elvis. The more attention I began to pay to the things I learned about him the more overwhelmed with emotion I became. Many of his lyrics seem to me to represent biblical passages and themes. My intense emotion does not seem to so much that he is dead but that if he is the person that many bellieve he is/was that surely there has to be some kind of justice brought about for his reputation an frankly for his witness. I am convinced that if he is/was who he seemed that it was that witness that was under attack, not the color of his skin. I have often been troubled by the what seems to be a trend to try and make children be more like adults when Jesus said for us to be like them. Now having said all that, some of the things that I see and hear in various places cause me to doubt Micheals motivation for his actions, which scares me a little about his possible return. Can anyone offer any thoughts on my confusion between my head and heart (aside from the thought that maybe it's time for the rubber room!) .
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@Suspicious Mind...I think I have had the same concerns you do. I was more in a quandry about it when this all first started. However, in more recent months the Holy Spirit has calmed my fears and speculations. I know that God is involved in this, I still don't know the end result. More than anything I want the truth in this exposed. Light scatters the darkness. We just have to trust Him and continue to pray. His Word says...All things work together for good to those who love the Lord and are called according to His will and purpose.
It is intriguing how many people who were not fans (myself included), have been drawn together in one place because of MJ's "death". And what is even more interesting... many of us have been called to pray. I am sure of one thing, God has a supreme purpose in all of this. Whenever He is involved great good comes forth.
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jill
thank you. your response has helped to bring peace to my heart and quiet some of the noise of confusion.perhaps this is a good moment for me to set aside some time and just dwell in this peacefull place.
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jill
thank you. your response has helped to bring peace to my heart and quiet some of the noise of confusion.perhaps this is a good moment for me to set aside some time and just dwell in this peacefull place.
I am so glad!
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Well so many ofyou hav stated that you gav you life to God after Michael's death. Just think how may people in this world who are not on this site who aso have turned their life ove to christ, after his death. Could that be the reason for all of this, God will use
someone to bring people to him, and that includes Michael.
Everyone also forgets that Michael had a skin condition, that he tried to down play in front of the world. So he was also mistreated for being ill. Can you imagine being a sex symbol and then your skin starts losing color. I cannot imagine how diffcult it was for him, on one hand trying not to speak about it, on the other fighting off many peple's opinions that he wanted to be white. I am sorry Michael, we Love You no matter what.
Oh and I jus think if all of the non-believers reviewed his post they would stop calling us names, as so many people on this site are really very loving and kind hearted people GOD BLESS YOU ALL !!!
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Well so many ofyou hav stated that you gav you life to God after Michael's death. Just think how may people in this world who are not on this site who aso have turned their life ove to christ, after his death. Could that be the reason for all of this, God will use
someone to bring people to him, and that includes Michael.
Everyone also forgets that Michael had a skin condition, that he tried to down play in front of the world. So he was also mistreated for being ill. Can you imagine being a sex symbol and then your skin starts losing color. I cannot imagine how diffcult it was for him, on one hand trying not to speak about it, on the other fighting off many peple's opinions that he wanted to be white. I am sorry Michael, we Love You no matter what.
Oh and I jus think if all of the non-believers reviewed his post they would stop calling us names, as so many people on this site are really very loving and kind hearted people GOD BLESS YOU ALL !!!
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Letstalkagain,
Thank you for sharing this!! :)
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I must say that I am truly grateful to GOD for finding this thread tonight. It has brought me much comfort and joy to read about how so many of us are seeking the LORD, praying and encouraging one another in Faith and in Love. This is what we need, what the entire world needs RIGHT NOW! Michael never ceased in his pursuit to spread this message! I believe this is no coincidence and yes we are definitely here for a purpose.
Michael has been embedded in my heart since as far back as I can remember. I have had dreams of him before June 25th and many after. Indeed, something is moving in the spiritual world and prayer is needed each and everyday! When the news hit June 25th I was devastated for a long time. But after I started investigating the hoax theories and learning so much more about who Michael is and what he's trying to do for the world, I have found Peace! A peace that defies all understanding and can only come from GOD. It is astonishing to see dreams unfold in real life. Thank you Jill for creating this thread and for everyone who shares there thoughts, wisdom and love. This is truly something amazing! :D :D :D
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@Wilds you're welcome! What a beautiful post. Thank you.
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I have been in prayer very heavily for the past few days. I feel the Lord is saying to me "You need to keep your eyes on Texas". I cannot elaborate more than this at this time. Has anyone received anything similar to this?
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I have been in prayer very heavily for the past few days. I feel the Lord is saying to me "You need to keep your eyes on Texas". I cannot elaborate more than this at this time. Has anyone received anything similar to this?
in gereral , or in regards to this possible hoax/
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There will be great changes that are coming and they will arise from this state. I feel like it is a multitude of things that will affect our nation. I believe Murray also has a practice in Texas, if I am wrong please correct me.
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There will be great changes that are coming and they will arise from this state. I feel like it is a multitude of things that will affect our nation. I believe Murray also has a practice in Texas, if I am wrong please correct me.
Did you get this in your spirit or was it through someone else? I am just trying to understand how these things work through someone else in order to better understand things of the same nature in myself.Could mean some revelations about Murry from there. I don"t know wasn"t Kennedy assasination in Texas? Another thing that this makes me wonder about. A while back before going to bed I just sort off handedly ask God to give me some idea about this whole mess (mostly of whether I was wasting my time and effort ) then during the night as I was coming out of a sleep pattern all I recall was hearing the word kidnapped. Thought it was odd and out of nowhere. Then a little while later I was watching one of Luna 67 videos and it was about Micheal and some sort of possible prject with Marvel comics or something. They started down this long hallway and Micheal says where are we going or something to that effect and the guy replies I "m kidnapping you (or I'm going to kidnap you or something).weird huh.
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It keeps coming to mind that the Kennedy assassination was also in Texas and was referred to by Harvey on TMZ. That is one of the greatest deceptions played on this nation. It is time for some truth to come from that state.
@Suspicious Mind...I sent you a private message.
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There will be great changes that are coming and they will arise from this state. I feel like it is a multitude of things that will affect our nation. I believe Murray also has a practice in Texas, if I am wrong please correct me.
Did you get this in your spirit or was it through someone else? I am just trying to understand how these things work through someone else in order to better understand things of the same nature in myself.Could mean some revelations about Murry from there. I don"t know wasn"t Kennedy assasination in Texas? Another thing that this makes me wonder about. A while back before going to bed I just sort off handedly ask God to give me some idea about this whole mess (mostly of whether I was wasting my time and effort ) then during the night as I was coming out of a sleep pattern all I recall was hearing the word kidnapped. Thought it was odd and out of nowhere. Then a little while later I was watching one of Luna 67 videos and it was about Micheal and some sort of possible prject with Marvel comics or something. They started down this long hallway and Micheal says where are we going or something to that effect and the guy replies I "m kidnapping you (or I'm going to kidnap you or something).weird huh.
Suspicious Mind and Jill I will send you both a pm.
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There will be great changes that are coming and they will arise from this state. I feel like it is a multitude of things that will affect our nation. I believe Murray also has a practice in Texas, if I am wrong please correct me.
Did you get this in your spirit or was it through someone else? I am just trying to understand how these things work through someone else in order to better understand things of the same nature in myself.Could mean some revelations about Murry from there. I don"t know wasn"t Kennedy assasination in Texas? Another thing that this makes me wonder about. A while back before going to bed I just sort off handedly ask God to give me some idea about this whole mess (mostly of whether I was wasting my time and effort ) then during the night as I was coming out of a sleep pattern all I recall was hearing the word kidnapped. Thought it was odd and out of nowhere. Then a little while later I was watching one of Luna 67 videos and it was about Micheal and some sort of possible prject with Marvel comics or something. They started down this long hallway and Micheal says where are we going or something to that effect and the guy replies I "m kidnapping you (or I'm going to kidnap you or something).weird huh.
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It is interesting this keeps coming back up. Two or three have mentioned this before. Hmmmm.....
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I want to believe that there is a victory in this though. Ever hear the little song that goes I went to the enemies camp and I took back what he stole from me.Keep the faith!
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:geek: this is great cause i've had experiences too and i thought i was mistaken but wooo what can we do but see how this pan's out... :ugeek:
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I want to believe that there is a victory in this though. Ever hear the little song that goes I went to the enemies camp and I took back what he stole from me.Keep the faith!
I am posting the link to the prophecy I read yesterday. It has to do with our nation and nations around the world. I was overwhelmed when I read it because it is almost word for word what the Lord has been speaking in my spirit.
http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word/8605 (http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word/8605)
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I want to believe that there is a victory in this though. Ever hear the little song that goes I went to the enemies camp and I took back what he stole from me.Keep the faith!
I am posting the link to the prophecy I read yesterday. It has to do with our nation and nations around the world. I was overwhelmed when I read it because it is almost word for word what the Lord has been speaking in my spirit.
http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word/8605 (http://www.elijahlist.com/words/display_word/8605)
yeah! that's kinda what it's felt like to me.like this all plays some part in one last great revival or something.I remember oh probably 10 years ago an older pastor saying something about a time that was supposed to come when believers would have the power to heal simply walking through (maybe not the exact Iidea, but I hope that doesn"t sound wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy crazy) .Wasn't it like Brownsville , Texas a while back where that one spiritual movement started where people were getting laid out in the spirit ? Seems like it was even on the news type programs.by the way there is on you tube a song sung by a girl lauren talley(sp) called david did dance, makes me think of micheal. i am all over the place today just being a.d.d. i guess (another lie of the devil that i won't get started on ).
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I think the Brownsville thing was a precursor to this. I have a great expectation of something big happening. I have a commitment this evening and won't be able to get on line. Things are moving so fast I am afraid I am going to miss something! LOL. I will have my phone with me so I can check the news, unfortunately it won't load this site, not enough memory.
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since this thread seems to have bloomed into a place for all things spiritual I have a question.assuming everyone here saw this is it,did anyone else get the impression from kenny ortaga's behavior in the background of the speech segment that he was expecting something else? like say prayer.the lead in to it had him sort of skipping and saying something about church.do you think this could have (what's the term?) dubbed over somehow? just something that has been bugging me.
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God bless you all for your posts. There is power in the Word of the Lord. Whenever I ask "why" regarding Michael the Word below comes strong and clear. That's what has kept me searching for the truth.
Joshua 1:9 Bible quote - Be strong and of good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.
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God bless you all for your posts. There is power in the Word of the Lord. Whenever I ask "why" regarding Michael the Word below comes strong and clear. That's what has keeps me searching for the truth.
Joshua 1:9 Bible quote - Be strong and of good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.
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Thanks for sharing this! It's encouraging to hear this as that all of us who are on this board at times are discouraged! It is always good to be reminded to not be in fear! We will have our moments of our ups and downs at times. Whenever I do, I do come back to this particular post and read everything. :D
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since this thread seems to have bloomed into a place for all things spiritual I have a question.assuming everyone here saw this is it,did anyone else get the impression from kenny ortaga's behavior in the background of the speech segment that he was expecting something else? like say prayer.the lead in to it had him sort of skipping and saying something about church.do you think this could have (what's the term?) dubbed over somehow? just something that has been bugging me.
I don't have the dvd. I have only seen it once so I can't say. I will try to get a copy and take a look.
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God bless you all for your posts. There is power in the Word of the Lord. Whenever I ask "why" regarding Michael the Word below comes strong and clear. That's what has keeps me searching for the truth.
Joshua 1:9 Bible quote - Be strong and of good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.
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Thanks for sharing this! It's encouraging to hear this as that all of us who are on this board at times are discouraged! It is always good to be reminded to not be in fear! We will have our moments of our ups and downs at times. Whenever I do, I do come back to this particular post and read everything. :D
That's right. As Christians we are not to live in fear. Not of Illuminati, NWO, or anyone else. The only thing we need to fear is God Himself. That being said, God also tells us to be diligent and pray. We are not to be taken unaware (caught off guard) and not to be led astray by false teachings or fancy words.
I am reminded of Michael when he went to court in 2005 to hear the verdict. He had determination in his eyes, strength in his step, and God on his side. If God be for us, who can be against us? That picture of him in his white suit has become one of my favorites. We are victors, not victims!
I was really surprised at how deeply the news of MIchael's death affected me because I was not a huge follower of him after the Thriller era. I didn't listen to that kind of music. None-the-less, I still respected him very much. I was affected like so many of you - it felt like my heart had been ripped out; a piece of my childhood had died with him. I felt compelled to take action.
I observed over the years the injustice that he was served and it angered me even though I wasn't what one would call "a fan" (I am now). I prayed for him during his court proceedings and I also felt led to pray for him when I heard Neverland was being foreclosed on. Of course I was always drawn to watch him when he was on TV but I didn't even know he had a website, email, etc. That's how little I followed him. Heck, I didn't even know that he was doing the 02 concert - because I quit following Hollywood gossip due to the way Michael had been treated over the years. Anything I heard or saw was in casual observance at the check-out counter at the supermarket.
I didn't realize what my little voice could accomplish or if it even mattered so I never spoke out until now. The huge lesson I've learned is that there is strength in numbers and that we need to step up and be a voice for those that have none. In this case, for Michael and his children.
I have no idea what the end of this journey will hold but I do know that the truth will prevail in the end. That is God's promise to us. Peace and blessings to you all. Be strong and of good courage.
Ecclesiastes
3:1 For everything there is an appointed time,
and an appropriate time for every activity on earth:
3:2 A time to be born, and a time to die;
a time to plant, and a time to uproot what was planted;
3:3 A time to kill, and a time to heal;
a time to break down, and a time to build up;
3:4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
a time to mourn, and a time to dance.
3:5 A time to throw away stones, and a time to gather stones;
a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
3:6 A time to search, and a time to give something up as lost;
a time to keep, and a time to throw away;
3:7 A time to rip, and a time to sew;
a time to keep silent, and a time to speak.
3:8 A time to love, and a time to hate;
4:9 Two people are better than one,
because they can reap more benefit from their labor.
4:10 For if they fall, one will help his companion up,
but pity the person who falls down and has no one to help him up.
4:11 Furthermore, if two lie down together, they can keep each other warm,
but how can one person keep warm by himself?
4:12 Although an assailant may overpower one person,
two can withstand him.
Moreover, a three-stranded cord is not quickly broken.
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since this thread seems to have bloomed into a place for all things spiritual I have a question.assuming everyone here saw this is it,did anyone else get the impression from kenny ortaga's behavior in the background of the speech segment that he was expecting something else? like say prayer.the lead in to it had him sort of skipping and saying something about church.do you think this could have (what's the term?) dubbed over somehow? just something that has been bugging me.
I don't have the dvd. I have only seen it once so I can't say. I will try to get a copy and take a look.
Interesting - I'll pay closer attention when I look at the movie again but what speech segment are you talking about - the one where Michael was there or the one near the end? Because I have always been bothered by the one near the end where Michael was gone. Something seems really strange about the whole scene.
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@Voiceforthesilent...I love those scriptures from Eccl.!!! Thanks so much for posting that, so appropriate for the time we are in. Again, thanks for the encouragement.
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I want to believe that there is a victory in this though. Ever hear the little song that goes I went to the enemies camp and I took back what he stole from me.Keep the faith!
I love that song!! its a good song we sing at chuch during praise and worship!!
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I want to believe that there is a victory in this though. Ever hear the little song that goes I went to the enemies camp and I took back what he stole from me.Keep the faith!
I love that song!! its a good song we sing at chuch during praise and worship!!
It's one of my favorites, also. The weapons the enemy fears most are faith, prayer, praise, and obedience to the Lord. They will keep the enemy under your feet and nothing he forms against you will prosper. Thanks for all the encouraging posts from everyone.
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@Voiceforthesilent...I love those scriptures from Eccl.!!! Thanks so much for posting that, so appropriate for the time we are in. Again, thanks for the encouragement.
You're so welcome. Thank you for starting this thread. I was getting a little discouraged by some of the negative and mean comments on a few of the threads as of late. This has been refreshing. Blessings.
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since this thread seems to have bloomed into a place for all things spiritual I have a question.assuming everyone here saw this is it,did anyone else get the impression from kenny ortaga's behavior in the background of the speech segment that he was expecting something else? like say prayer.the lead in to it had him sort of skipping and saying something about church.do you think this could have (what's the term?) dubbed over somehow? just something that has been bugging me.
I don't have the dvd. I have only seen it once so I can't say. I will try to get a copy and take a look.
Interesting - I'll pay closer attention when I look at the movie again but what speech segment are you talking about - the one where Michael was there or the one near the end? Because I have always been bothered by the one near the end where Michael was gone. Something seems really strange about the whole scene.
micheal is speaking about the adventure and the planet . that's why kenny's behavior seems out of place like there was expected to be prayer or maybe there was and it got changed somehow
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he guys the thread on dualism needs some input
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I have seen her videos and totally disagree. I will have to pray about it before I make a post on that thread.
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I sent you pm
sent one back did you get it?
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Take a look at the article on the "Just thinking...02 announcement" thread. It is very enlightening on what was happening surrounding that day.
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Take a look at the article on the "Just thinking...02 announcement" thread. It is very enlightening on what was happening surrounding that day.
i seem to be having trouble finding it.what is the main catagory?
found it!
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It's under general talk
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a while back i was bothered by the talk about the turning stone to bread part of watw so i went hunting.whether or not it has anything to do with the song i think it is a neat article.
http;//www.fortmielltimes.com/2008/11/12/356929/for -whom-do-you-carry-your-stone.html
i hope all of that is right.
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a while back i was bothered by the talk about the turning stone to bread part of watw so i went hunting.whether or not it has anything to do with the song i think it is a neat article.
http;//www.fortmielltimes.com/2008/11/12/356929/for -whom-do-you-carry-your-stone.html
i hope all of that is right.
I was bothered by that part of the song as well. I think Mo or Souza posted a thread a while back that those lyrics were changed for the new recording. Can you try to repost that link? It doesn't work.
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a while back i was bothered by the talk about the turning stone to bread part of watw so i went hunting.whether or not it has anything to do with the song i think it is a neat article.
http;//www.fortmielltimes.com/2008/11/12/356929/for -whom-do-you-carry-your-stone.html
i hope all of that is right.
I was bothered by that part of the song as well. I think Mo or Souza posted a thread a while back that those lyrics were changed for the new recording. Can you try to repost that link? It doesn't work.
i will get my daughter to help me do that later as i don't know how.i know it's sad isn't it.
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a while back i was bothered by the talk about the turning stone to bread part of watw so i went hunting.whether or not it has anything to do with the song i think it is a neat article.
http;//www.fortmielltimes.com/2008/11/12/356929/for -whom-do-you-carry-your-stone.html
i hope all of that is right.
I was bothered by that part of the song as well. I think Mo or Souza posted a thread a while back that those lyrics were changed for the new recording. Can you try to repost that link? It doesn't work.
i will get my daughter to help me do that later as i don't know how.i know it's sad isn't it.
http://www.fortmilltimes.com/2008/11/12 ... stone.html (http://www.fortmilltimes.com/2008/11/12/356929/for-whom-do-you-carry-your-stone.html)
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Thank you!
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There seems to be a lot happening surrounding the hoax right now and I am sure it will get more hectic and confusing as we come into June. I urge all of you to keep this in prayer and seek clear direction from the Lord.
Please pray for Greece and the world economy is well. My heart goes out to the people of Greece and the unrest that is in that country at this time. Remember God is still God and He hasn't advocated His throne because evil men are in power.
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jill
was watching glen beck today. show on founding father"s.george washington.did you know he basically (sp)said what your phrophet guy did about establishing this country and that we wouldn't fall.something to that effect.
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There seems to be a lot happening surrounding the hoax right now and I am sure it will get more hectic and confusing as we come into June. I urge all of you to keep this in prayer and seek clear direction from the Lord.
Please pray for Greece and the world economy is well. My heart goes out to the people of Greece and the unrest that is in that country at this time. Remember God is still God and He hasn't advocated His throne because evil men are in power.
Amen Jill! God is still in control. We need to keep our eyes on Him.
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jill
was watching glen beck today. show on founding father"s.george washington.did you know he basically (sp)said what your phrophet guy did about establishing this country and that we wouldn't fall.something to that effect.
Wow! I missed it. I usually watch Beck. I will have to watch it on line. Thanks for telling me.
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There seems to be a lot happening surrounding the hoax right now and I am sure it will get more hectic and confusing as we come into June. I urge all of you to keep this in prayer and seek clear direction from the Lord.
Please pray for Greece and the world economy is well. My heart goes out to the people of Greece and the unrest that is in that country at this time. Remember God is still God and He hasn't advocated His throne because evil men are in power.
Yes, we must pray fervently not only about the hoax but what is going on in the world. Tear down the works of the forces of darkness that wants to hinder the truth and what is righteousness.Even Christ told his disciples not just only to pray but some things come by prayer and fasting.
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are you guys still hanging in there? i fear i am getting weary .don't know if the tabloid thing will go the right way.
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are you guys still hanging in there? i fear i am getting weary .don't know if the tabloid thing will go the right way.
Suspiciuos,
I am doing alright! I had bit hit with a cold but I am doing good. still hanging in there. I know. Keep on holding on.
Okay, what about a tabloid?
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are you guys still hanging in there? i fear i am getting weary .don't know if the tabloid thing will go the right way.
Still here just have been busy. I am sure things are going to start getting hectic around here. I saw an article about Lisa Marie in the Enquirer today but did not have a chance to take a look. I will see if I can find it here or on line.
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are you guys still hanging in there? i fear i am getting weary .don't know if the tabloid thing will go the right way.
Suspiciuos,
I am doing alright! I had bit hit with a cold but I am doing good. still hanging in there. I know. Keep on holding on.
Okay, what about a tabloid?
are you serious. i got hit with something last week. spent one whole day on the couch sleeping. kept comming awak with these weird little dreams about micheal and doubles , wondering about mime make-up crazy stuff
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are you guys still hanging in there? i fear i am getting weary .don't know if the tabloid thing will go the right way.
Suspiciuos,
I am doing alright! I had bit hit with a cold but I am doing good. still hanging in there. I know. Keep on holding on.
Okay, what about a tabloid?
are you serious. i got hit with something last week. spent one whole day on the couch sleeping. kept comming awak with these weird little dreams about micheal and doubles , wondering about mime make-up crazy stuff
LOL, Suspicious you should lay off the cold medicine. I hope you are feeling better now.
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are you guys still hanging in there? i fear i am getting weary .don't know if the tabloid thing will go the right way.
Hi - I'm doing fine too. I believe the truth prevails in the end so I'm waiting to see what happens. It's a fine line for sure but we need to continue to pray for Michael and his family and continue to stand up for truth and justice. Blessings to you. I pray you'll feel better quickly.
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are you guys still hanging in there? i fear i am getting weary .don't know if the tabloid thing will go the right way.
Suspiciuos,
I am doing alright! I had bit hit with a cold but I am doing good. still hanging in there. I know. Keep on holding on.
Okay, what about a tabloid?
are you serious. i got hit with something last week. spent one whole day on the couch sleeping. kept comming awak with these weird little dreams about micheal and doubles , wondering about mime make-up crazy stuff
LOL, Suspicious you should lay off the cold medicine. I hope you are feeling better now.
heh i hadn't taken any! i think mo and sousa doubles stuff is getting to me . :lol:
i am curious have any of you discussed any of this stuff with fellow believers(not hoax believers) outside of the forum? sometimes i feel like more prayer is needed, but it would be really strange to some people to even approach the subject.
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This video was posted on a local radio station in my area. Please take a look. I think you will get a real blessing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77q ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77qa50&feature=player_embedded)
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I have only discussed prayer for Michael with my family. We are all intercessors. They have not gotten prayer burdens about it but I do talk to them about what is going on and what I hear from the Spirit.
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This video was posted on a local radio station in my area. Please take a look. I think you will get a real blessing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77q ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77qa50&feature=player_embedded)
pretty cool 8-)
i have to chuchel a little with all of the dream stuff we've had going on it's no wonder people wonder what john was on when he wrote revelations ;) :lol:
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This video was posted on a local radio station in my area. Please take a look. I think you will get a real blessing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77q ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77qa50&feature=player_embedded)
pretty cool 8-)
i have to chuchel a little with all of the dream stuff we've had going on it's no wonder people wonder what john was on when he wrote revelations ;) :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
I have to laugh because I was actually going to post this now but I guess i won't. It was good and very thought provoking!!
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"Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord." (1st Corinthians 15:58; KJV)
We will in due time see the fruit of our efforts!
Stay blessed! ;)
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Thanks onthewings...I love getting the encouraging messages. Sorry I didn't answer earlier. Have been out of town for a week.
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"Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord." (1st Corinthians 15:58; KJV)
We will in due time see the fruit of our efforts!
Stay blessed! ;)
sweet :D
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Though I am not particularly religious, I believe in God and I believe in prayer and in the power of it. I don't go to church every Sunday, and I don't have any special rituals for sending up prayers, but I have faith that the creator still hears me and loves me just the same. I can say a prayer anywhere, at any time, even silently and if meant to be, they will be received. God is everywhere. I also believe in the law of vibrational energy. When we as people become more loving and reduce the negative charges to the earth, she will settle down and good things will reverberate. As long as we are constantly tumultuous, the earth will also be. She gives back to us all that is given. Once we settle, and love, and be caring, be gentle to her, her bounty will bloom and our rewards will be great. I think that is all Michael was trying to say to us when he said always, it's all for love. And I get it 100% because in reality, it is. We can all live together peacefully and agree to disagree. That's the way things work out for the good of all.
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Though I am not particularly religious, I believe in God and I believe in prayer and in the power of it. I don't go to church every Sunday, and I don't have any special rituals for sending up prayers, but I have faith that the creator still hears me and loves me just the same. I can say a prayer anywhere, at any time, even silently and if meant to be, they will be received. God is everywhere. I also believe in the law of vibrational energy. When we as people become more loving and reduce the negative charges to the earth, she will settle down and good things will reverberate. As long as we are constantly tumultuous, the earth will also be. She gives back to us all that is given. Once we settle, and love, and be caring, be gentle to her, her bounty will bloom and our rewards will be great. I think that is all Michael was trying to say to us when he said always, it's all for love. And I get it 100% because in reality, it is. We can all live together peacefully and agree to disagree. That's the way things work out for the good of all.
And I believe that is what God is doing right now through Michael! “By terrible things in righteousness wilt thou answer us, O God of our salvation; …which stilleth the noise of the seas, the noise of their waves, and the tumult of the people.” (Psalm 65:5, 7; KJV) Michael is a precious instrument through whom God has chosen to work :!:
Be Blessed!
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Thanks onthewings...I love getting the encouraging messages. Sorry I didn't answer earlier. Have been out of town for a week.
Don't worry about it. I only signed on a few days ago, but I've been following this site since last July. I'm an "encourager" as well as an "intercessor." So it's my job to keep all who believe that MJ is alive encouraged, because he is!
Much blessings to you "on the wings of love!"
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Yes he is an instrument of love. I believe he is a Godsend. He didn't get here by chance ;) Too many things point to his having been sent for a reason, love and compassion being the at the top of that list.
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This video was posted on a local radio station in my area. Please take a look. I think you will get a real blessing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77q ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77qa50&feature=player_embedded)
Thanks for sharing this Jill. This was great. Blessings :)
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Thanks onthewings...I love getting the encouraging messages. Sorry I didn't answer earlier. Have been out of town for a week.
Don't worry about it. I only signed on a few days ago, but I've been following this site since last July. I'm an "encourager" as well as an "intercessor." So it's my job to keep all who believe that MJ is alive encouraged, because he is!
Much blessings to you "on the wings of love!"
That's a great gift from God to have, this world needs encouragers like you, I have a very dear christian sister who is also a encourager, she picks me up, when others are trying to put me down. Keep encouraging you are making a BIG difference in the world.
God Bless you, onthewingsoflove.
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This video was posted on a local radio station in my area. Please take a look. I think you will get a real blessing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77q ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77qa50&feature=player_embedded)
Thanks for sharing this Jill. This was great. Blessings :)
jill: thank you for the video, what a inspiring message, she made me laugh.
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This video was posted on a local radio station in my area. Please take a look. I think you will get a real blessing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77q ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQYJ77qa50&feature=player_embedded)
Thanks for sharing this Jill. This was great. Blessings :)
jill: thank you for the video, what a inspiring message, she made me laugh.
I'm glad you and the others enjoyed it. It made me laugh too.
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That's a great gift from God to have, this world needs encouragers like you, I have a very dear christian sister who is also a encourager, she picks me up, when others are trying to put me down. Keep encouraging you are making a BIG difference in the world.
God Bless you, onthewingsoflove.
Now you just encouraged me! Thanks so much for the kind words. God calls us to encourage one another "but exhorting (encouraging) one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." (Hebrews 10:25; KJV) I can also apply this to the return of MJ! The day is approaching!
Tell my fellow encourager, Hi :P
Stay blessed!!
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@jill tried to send you a pm don't know if it went out. let me know thanks
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For some reason it is not showing up that I have a new message. I had to go to messages to see yours to me. I sent you one back.
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@ jill got a return message that seems to have been from something a while ago. anyway i will just put a short version here. glen beck 8/28/10 restoring america (something something ) at the lincoln memorial. sounds like it could be interesting.considering the date(wrong birthadate from death certificate ) and jermaine and prince in dc to rehears something. :idea: :D :o :?: or i could just be nuts :oops: or maybe it will just be interesting anyway
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hi guys. i am here in hopes of getiing a little help. do to recent computer problems i have lost my favorites list. does anyone have a link to a website about micheal that was about his faith. it was titled the truth about micheal and included something about dancing the dream. it was by someone named debbie. i know someone posted about it here but i can't seem to come up with the corrct key words to track it down.thank you so much in advance if you can help. :D :D
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hi guys. i am here in hopes of getiing a little help. do to recent computer problems i have lost my favorites list. does anyone have a link to a website about micheal that was about his faith. it was titled the truth about micheal and included something about dancing the dream. it was by someone named debbie. i know someone posted about it here but i can't seem to come up with the corrct key words to track it down.thank you so much in advance if you can help. :D :D
I'm not sure if this is the one you are looking for, but it is one of my favorites...http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com/His-Faith.html (http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com/His-Faith.html)
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hi guys. i am here in hopes of getiing a little help. do to recent computer problems i have lost my favorites list. does anyone have a link to a website about micheal that was about his faith. it was titled the truth about micheal and included something about dancing the dream. it was by someone named debbie. i know someone posted about it here but i can't seem to come up with the corrct key words to track it down.thank you so much in advance if you can help. :D :D
I'm not sure if this is the one you are looking for, but it is one of my favorites...http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com/His-Faith.html (http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com/His-Faith.html)
[yeas that is it . today you are my special angel :D
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hey guys long time. i ran across this show while surfing the other day. at the time i only caught the end of this section so i looked for it . this is praise the lord archives.
look at Thurs. sept. 2, 2010 if you don't want to watch whole thing right now skip tp about 8-9 mins. again Curtis Smith . listen to all that he has to say. see if you think this is spirit lead conversation or if it could possibly mean that these to have knowledge of what is going on.
i have been so intrigued by the way Pastor davis was mentioned in the section where the memorial was listed as a film. he is the only one not listed as playing himself. other that michael and it says curtis smith as the rev. curtis smith.
what is your opinion on the reaction of people if these men were to willing be involved in this. or do you think they could be in this and not even realize themselves what they area a part of.
looking forward to your opionion.
http://www.tbn.org/watch-us/archives (http://www.tbn.org/watch-us/archives)
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hey guys long time. i ran across this show while surfing the other day. at the time i only caught the end of this section so i looked for it . this is praise the lord archives.
look at Thurs. sept. 2, 2010 if you don't want to watch whole thing right now skip tp about 8-9 mins. again Curtis Smith . listen to all that he has to say. see if you think this is spirit lead conversation or if it could possibly mean that these to have knowledge of what is going on.
i have been so intrigued by the way Pastor davis was mentioned in the section where the memorial was listed as a film. he is the only one not listed as playing himself. other that michael and it says curtis smith as the rev. curtis smith.
what is your opinion on the reaction of people if these men were to willing be involved in this. or do you think they could be in this and not even realize themselves what they area a part of.
looking forward to your opionion.
http://www.tbn.org/watch-us/archives (http://www.tbn.org/watch-us/archives)
Hmmm, will have to check it out later.
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I didn't hear anything in particular. I will have to listen to it again.
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[youtube:16w4e2mn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvBvaoIElLw&feature=related[/youtube:16w4e2mn]
Chappie
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[youtube:2nf1poe4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvBvaoIElLw&feature=related[/youtube:2nf1poe4]
Chappie
perhaps you would like the movie. Change of habitelvis causes a nun to leave her convent ;) :lol:
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hey guys long time. i ran across this show while surfing the other day. at the time i only caught the end of this section so i looked for it . this is praise the lord archives.
look at Thurs. sept. 2, 2010 if you don't want to watch whole thing right now skip tp about 8-9 mins. again Curtis Smith . listen to all that he has to say. see if you think this is spirit lead conversation or if it could possibly mean that these to have knowledge of what is going on.
i have been so intrigued by the way Pastor davis was mentioned in the section where the memorial was listed as a film. he is the only one not listed as playing himself. other that michael and it says curtis smith as the rev. curtis smith.
what is your opinion on the reaction of people if these men were to willing be involved in this. or do you think they could be in this and not even realize themselves what they area a part of.
looking forward to your opionion.
I watched the program on TBN the other night. I thought they were both very respectful of MJ but I was under the impression neither of them believe him to be alive. If this is all a hoax, these two men have no knowledgr of it. (sending this from my phone so please forgive any errors)
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hey guys long time. i ran across this show while surfing the other day. at the time i only caught the end of this section so i looked for it . this is praise the lord archives.
look at Thurs. sept. 2, 2010 if you don't want to watch whole thing right now skip tp about 8-9 mins. again Curtis Smith . listen to all that he has to say. see if you think this is spirit lead conversation or if it could possibly mean that these to have knowledge of what is going on.
i have been so intrigued by the way Pastor davis was mentioned in the section where the memorial was listed as a film. he is the only one not listed as playing himself. other that michael and it says curtis smith as the rev. curtis smith.
what is your opinion on the reaction of people if these men were to willing be involved in this. or do you think they could be in this and not even realize themselves what they area a part of.
looking forward to your opionion.
I watched the program on TBN the other night. I thought they were both very respectful of MJ but I was under the impression neither of them believe him to be alive. If this is all a hoax, these two men have no knowledgr of it. (sending this from my phone so please forgive any errors)
i don't think so either. i just thought that what they had to say about judging and so on was pretty spot on and seemed to embody alot of what mjs message is.
the one thing that kind of stuck out to me though from the first appearance is that he seemed to imply that he knew randy more this time than he did the first time.
btw i sent you a pm will you post a confirmation if you get it . i am still having trouble with them for some reason.
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[youtube:2ogcg15u]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvBvaoIElLw&feature=related[/youtube:2ogcg15u]
Chappie
hey hey i just realized this is your first time on this thread :lol: i love your video selection. my kids liked the dancing squirrel. my a daughter however has employed a hit man to get you and me both for the ghost of neverland one. :lol:
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got one for ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU13C3vS ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU13C3vSwcs&feature=related)
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hey guys long time. i ran across this show while surfing the other day. at the time i only caught the end of this section so i looked for it . this is praise the lord archives.
look at Thurs. sept. 2, 2010 if you don't want to watch whole thing right now skip tp about 8-9 mins. again Curtis Smith . listen to all that he has to say. see if you think this is spirit lead conversation or if it could possibly mean that these to have knowledge of what is going on.
i have been so intrigued by the way Pastor davis was mentioned in the section where the memorial was listed as a film. he is the only one not listed as playing himself. other that michael and it says curtis smith as the rev. curtis smith.
what is your opinion on the reaction of people if these men were to willing be involved in this. or do you think they could be in this and not even realize themselves what they area a part of.
looking forward to your opionion.
I watched the program on TBN the other night. I thought they were both very respectful of MJ but I was under the impression neither of them believe him to be alive. If this is all a hoax, these two men have no knowledgr of it. (sending this from my phone so please forgive any errors)
Geez, Well I will have to listen to it again when he annouces Curtis smith.
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hey guys long time. i ran across this show while surfing the other day. at the time i only caught the end of this section so i looked for it . this is praise the lord archives.
look at Thurs. sept. 2, 2010 if you don't want to watch whole thing right now skip tp about 8-9 mins. again Curtis Smith . listen to all that he has to say. see if you think this is spirit lead conversation or if it could possibly mean that these to have knowledge of what is going on.
i have been so intrigued by the way Pastor davis was mentioned in the section where the memorial was listed as a film. he is the only one not listed as playing himself. other that michael and it says curtis smith as the rev. curtis smith.
what is your opinion on the reaction of people if these men were to willing be involved in this. or do you think they could be in this and not even realize themselves what they area a part of.
looking forward to your opionion.
This sounds really interesting - thank you all for sharing. I'll have to listen when I have a free minute. Blessings on your day!
I watched the program on TBN the other night. I thought they were both very respectful of MJ but I was under the impression neither of them believe him to be alive. If this is all a hoax, these two men have no knowledgr of it. (sending this from my phone so please forgive any errors)
Geez, Well I will have to listen to it again when he annouces Curtis smith.
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hey guys long time. i ran across this show while surfing the other day. at the time i only caught the end of this section so i looked for it . this is praise the lord archives.
look at Thurs. sept. 2, 2010 if you don't want to watch whole thing right now skip tp about 8-9 mins. again Curtis Smith . listen to all that he has to say. see if you think this is spirit lead conversation or if it could possibly mean that these to have knowledge of what is going on.
i have been so intrigued by the way Pastor davis was mentioned in the section where the memorial was listed as a film. he is the only one not listed as playing himself. other that michael and it says curtis smith as the rev. curtis smith.
what is your opinion on the reaction of people if these men were to willing be involved in this. or do you think they could be in this and not even realize themselves what they area a part of.
looking forward to your opionion.
This sounds really interesting - thank you all for sharing. I'll have to listen when I have a free minute. Blessings on your day!
I watched the program on TBN the other night. I thought they were both very respectful of MJ but I was under the impression neither of them believe him to be alive. If this is all a hoax, these two men have no knowledgr of it. (sending this from my phone so please forgive any errors)
Geez, Well I will have to listen to it again when he annouces Curtis smith.
Hey, Were you meaning to respond? Okay, I am listening to it again. I looked at the archive info on TBN it says Luciuos Smith instead of Curis Smith.
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hey guys long time. i ran across this show while surfing the other day. at the time i only caught the end of this section so i looked for it . this is praise the lord archives.
look at Thurs. sept. 2, 2010 if you don't want to watch whole thing right now skip tp about 8-9 mins. again Curtis Smith . listen to all that he has to say. see if you think this is spirit lead conversation or if it could possibly mean that these to have knowledge of what is going on.
i have been so intrigued by the way Pastor davis was mentioned in the section where the memorial was listed as a film. he is the only one not listed as playing himself. other that michael and it says curtis smith as the rev. curtis smith.
what is your opinion on the reaction of people if these men were to willing be involved in this. or do you think they could be in this and not even realize themselves what they area a part of.
looking forward to your opionion.
This sounds really interesting - thank you all for sharing. I'll have to listen when I have a free minute. Blessings on your day!
I watched the program on TBN the other night. I thought they were both very respectful of MJ but I was under the impression neither of them believe him to be alive. If this is all a hoax, these two men have no knowledgr of it. (sending this from my phone so please forgive any errors)
Geez, Well I will have to listen to it again when he annouces Curtis smith.
Okay, now I got it! :lol:
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did i mess up with the name ? sorry . maybe the guys name is lucious curtis smith or something but there seems to be confusion between the two every time the guy gets discussed :oops: :lol: :oops: :lol: i could also swear that early on i saw where this man said something to the nature of talking to michael about jesus and god had told him he could not present jesus to michael the same way as he would other people. bu ti can't find it.
to me this just seems like an odd place for confickting stories to be coming from.i wonder if the archives will let me go back to that other time when he was on with clifton davis. another thing why always with clifton davis?
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did i mess up with the name ? sorry . maybe the guys name is lucious curtis smith or something but there seems to be confusion between the two every time the guy gets discussed :oops: :lol: :oops: :lol: i could also swear that early on i saw where this man said something to the nature of talking to michael about jesus and god had told him he could not present jesus to michael the same way as he would other people. bu ti can't find it.
to me this just seems like an odd place for confickting stories to be coming from.i wonder if the archives will let me go back to that other time when he was on with clifton davis. another thing why always with clifton davis?
There is an article about that. I posted it on the old forum.
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did i mess up with the name ? sorry . maybe the guys name is lucious curtis smith or something but there seems to be confusion between the two every time the guy gets discussed :oops: :lol: :oops: :lol: i could also swear that early on i saw where this man said something to the nature of talking to michael about jesus and god had told him he could not present jesus to michael the same way as he would other people. bu ti can't find it.
to me this just seems like an odd place for confickting stories to be coming from.i wonder if the archives will let me go back to that other time when he was on with clifton davis. another thing why always with clifton davis?
Yeah, that's what confused me. :lol: It's all good. I listened to it yesterday.
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Hi all, I know it's been a while since I posted on this thread. I have been pulling away from the MJ hoax since last summer, taking a break I suppose. I was out shopping today, looking thru the movie section. I heard clearly..."buy the This Is It Movie." I did rent it from the video store when it came out but never purchased it. So today I bought it and brought it home. I layed it on the table as I came in. I did a few things, changed clothes an so forth. When I came back to the room where I had put the movie I saw it on the table and I heard..."It's time. We're doing this." It was very authorative and definite, as with great purpose. I felt a thrill of excitement go thru me. I can't say for sure what is going to happen but I feel excited!
Interesting note: When I put the movie in to watch it, it is not the same version I saw on video when it first came out. In this one when MJ is in the cherry picker, he doesn't sing. I vaguely remember him singing in the first version I saw (a little off key, because it caught my attention.) This was not in the video I bought today. I am going to see if I can get one from the video store where I rented it and see if it is different.
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I forgot to add...when I watched this movie I felt myself missing him as you would an old friend you were very close to. The thing is I was not a Michael Jackson fan. I didn't follow his career, I didn't buy his albums...I only went to one concert when I was about 12 when he was around the same age singing with his brothers. It was not a melancholy feeling, it was a good feeling as if I was going to see him again soon and looking forward to it.
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i was just thinking that right now we all could use a good prayer session.
Lord i pray that you will guide and direct our ways in the rest of this adventure. help us to maintaine peace in our hearts and remain at least as sane as we ever were ( ;) ) while we try to get through this. and if in the end we do come to the conclusion that we have errored in our belief of this hoax that our time spent here will not be in vain . and that we will all take with us some part from this to be used to honor michael , ourselves , our world and you. ( i personallly must end this prayer just as pastor smith ended the prayer at michael' memorial , to which randy it was testified by this pastor to respond i pray that way also ) In Jesus Name . Amen
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i was just thinking that right now we all could use a good prayer session.
Lord i pray that you will guide and direct our ways in the rest of this adventure. help us to maintaine peace in our hearts and remain at least as sane as we ever were ( ;) ) while we try to get through this. and if in the end we do come to the conclusion that we have errored in our belief of this hoax that our time spent here will not be in vain . and that we will all take with us some part from this to be used to honor michael , ourselves , our world and you. ( i personallly must end this prayer just as pastor smith ended the prayer at michael' memorial , to which randy it was testified by this pastor to respond i pray that way also ) In Jesus Name . Amen
Thank You so much for the prayer.
I prayed a couple days ago. I had a question that had been on my mind about Michael. I wanted to know if he was really alive or was this all some inhuman joke. I prayed for a dream that night and I received on.
In my dream I was on some wesite that I had never been on before. I couldn't read anything because the screen was so blurry. I was five red stars near the top of the screen and then as I scrolled down. I notice on the side of the websie there were photos of Michael with a face mask on. It looked like the same on he had on in his music video Ghost. It showed the stages of the mask being put on him. It was amazing. To me I think God told me that Michael is in discise some where in the world.
So I can say for a fact that prayer is a powerful thing .
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i was just thinking that right now we all could use a good prayer session.
Lord i pray that you will guide and direct our ways in the rest of this adventure. help us to maintaine peace in our hearts and remain at least as sane as we ever were ( ;) ) while we try to get through this. and if in the end we do come to the conclusion that we have errored in our belief of this hoax that our time spent here will not be in vain . and that we will all take with us some part from this to be used to honor michael , ourselves , our world and you. ( i personallly must end this prayer just as pastor smith ended the prayer at michael' memorial , to which randy it was testified by this pastor to respond i pray that way also ) In Jesus Name . Amen
Amen.
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i was just thinking that right now we all could use a good prayer session.
Lord i pray that you will guide and direct our ways in the rest of this adventure. help us to maintaine peace in our hearts and remain at least as sane as we ever were ( ;) ) while we try to get through this. and if in the end we do come to the conclusion that we have errored in our belief of this hoax that our time spent here will not be in vain . and that we will all take with us some part from this to be used to honor michael , ourselves , our world and you. ( i personallly must end this prayer just as pastor smith ended the prayer at michael' memorial , to which randy it was testified by this pastor to respond i pray that way also ) In Jesus Name . Amen
Thank You so much for the prayer.
I prayed a couple days ago. I had a question that had been on my mind about Michael. I wanted to know if he was really alive or was this all some inhuman joke. I prayed for a dream that night and I received on.
In my dream I was on some wesite that I had never been on before. I couldn't read anything because the screen was so blurry. I was five red stars near the top of the screen and then as I scrolled down. I notice on the side of the websie there were photos of Michael with a face mask on. It looked like the same on he had on in his music video Ghost. It showed the stages of the mask being put on him. It was amazing. To me I think God told me that Michael is in discise some where in the world.
So I can say for a fact that prayer is a powerful thing .
huh. i remember last year when i got my winter going into spring virus (whatever it is , i get one every year) . anyway since it makes me sleep , sleep , sleep i kept having i guess dreams of him in the very light or white colored makeup. it seemed like the dream was telling me that when we saw him like this it was very significant. and for me there is something that has been weighing on my mind about murry. i have had no dreams but i can't get these two thoughts to disconnect from each other.
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Do you mean that murray and mj are the same?
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Do you mean that murray and mj are the same?
it seems like a crazy idea , but i can't make myself stop wondering about it. :? there is just this vibe.
omg this is turning into a dream thread
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:
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Do you mean that murray and mj are the same?
it seems like a crazy idea , but i can't make myself stop wondering about it. :? there is just this vibe.
omg this is turning into a dream thread
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:
I am sorry if I shouldn't have posted me dream. I should have posted it in the Visions of Michael thread.
@suspicios mind You know in my dream he had white make up on. Though I you might be on to something. Only time will tell us the truth about the hoax.
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Do you mean that murray and mj are the same?
it seems like a crazy idea , but i can't make myself stop wondering about it. :? there is just this vibe.
omg this is turning into a dream thread
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:
I am sorry if I shouldn't have posted me dream. I should have posted it in the Visions of Michael thread.
@suspicios mind You know in my dream he had white make up on. Though I you might be on to something. Only time will tell us the truth about the hoax.
:) i was half joking about the dream thread, although i really do and have always loved this one for what it is so maybe it would be best if we had another dream one. although i don't know how it would be possible without it having the chance to go south on us somehow. :( you also are not the only one who has mentioned dreaming about the white makeup.
come to think of it if dreams are only mentioned in the context of the subject they are connected to then maybe the chance of it going off balance are less.
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:cry: Not many are joining the dream train :cry:
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:cry: Not many are joining the dream train :cry:
think maybe all of us are not big dream rememberers. Is that a word :?
i rarely dream of micheal myself , only about twice but it has always had to do with the light makeup , oh and the one time when it was just the word kidnapped. that was weired.
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Lately I am not very much in tune either.
The white make up can be a mask?
Also, I would like to ask you here if you would be so kind to write a prayer regarding the disaster in Japan. This time I am getting worried. The damages can be devastating for humanity.
Even if I am not a mystic believer, I believe in the power of words and thoughts.
Thanks in advance.
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Since I had children I have very vivid dreams that seem to happen in realtime, I even had one where I was sitting on a couch absolutely bored out of my mind for hours on end and it felt like I did actually experience that!! Exciting I know. Sometimes I do have bizarre dreams but never about MJ, I usually remember those dreams and sometimes I have numerous dreams all intertwined like plot threads in a movie even though the plots are completely unrelated to each other(or seem so). I know some people find examining their dreams a bit scary but I think it's scarier not to have dreams and not wonder about them.
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Lately I am not very much in tune either.
The white make up can be a mask?
Also, I would like to ask you here if you would be so kind to write a prayer regarding the disaster in Japan. This time I am getting worried. The damages can be devastating for humanity.
Even if I am not a mystic believer, I believe in the power of words and thoughts.
Thanks in advance.
i ran across this earlier. seems like a good place for it
http://www.godvine.com/A-Prayer-After-t ... n-297.html (http://www.godvine.com/A-Prayer-After-the-Earthquake-Pray-for-those-in-Japan-297.html)
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Thanks! A lot of quotes there to read.
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Since I had children I have very vivid dreams that seem to happen in realtime, I even had one where I was sitting on a couch absolutely bored out of my mind for hours on end and it felt like I did actually experience that!! Exciting I know. Sometimes I do have bizarre dreams but never about MJ, I usually remember those dreams and sometimes I have numerous dreams all intertwined like plot threads in a movie even though the plots are completely unrelated to each other(or seem so). I know some people find examining their dreams a bit scary but I think it's scarier not to have dreams and not wonder about them.
In deed. The brain works in amazing ways. Is pure electricity and so little we know about it.
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Hi all, I know it's been a while since I posted on this thread. I have been pulling away from the MJ hoax since last summer, taking a break I suppose. I was out shopping today, looking thru the movie section. I heard clearly..."buy the This Is It Movie." I did rent it from the video store when it came out but never purchased it. So today I bought it and brought it home. I layed it on the table as I came in. I did a few things, changed clothes an so forth. When I came back to the room where I had put the movie I saw it on the table and I heard..."It's time. We're doing this." It was very authorative and definite, as with great purpose. I felt a thrill of excitement go thru me. I can't say for sure what is going to happen but I feel excited!
Interesting note: When I put the movie in to watch it, it is not the same version I saw on video when it first came out. In this one when MJ is in the cherry picker, he doesn't sing. I vaguely remember him singing in the first version I saw (a little off key, because it caught my attention.) This was not in the video I bought today. I am going to see if I can get one from the video store where I rented it and see if it is different.
Long time no here everybody! What's happening?
Glad the forum is back up.
Jill, how are you? I haven't been on much since it has been back up.
I have somewhat pulled away from it abit as well.
Glad that everyone is doing good and you as well. God bless. :)
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@Infinitylady, doing fine, thanks. I still check in for news of the hoax from time to time. Glad to hear from you too! I am anticipating the trial starting. I am sure things will be hopping then. I'm sure TMZ will be all abuzz with trial news! I am also curious to see what will happen in July (if anything) because of the autographed picture Michael wrote: See you in July 2011. To me that is the only thing that really pinpoints a time frame that he may come back.
I also found it interesting that in the new thread that was posted today about Katherine saying "Why hold a trial?" That she goes out of her way to mention the Smooth Criminal fans. Smooth Criminal is the video in TII with Gilda. Also one of the big clues that MJ is not gone. To me, that hint is glaring.
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@Infinitylady, doing fine, thanks. I still check in for news of the hoax from time to time. Glad to hear from you too! I am anticipating the trial starting. I am sure things will be hopping then. I'm sure TMZ will be all abuzz with trial news! I am also curious to see what will happen in July (if anything) because of the autographed picture Michael wrote: See you in July 2011. To me that is the only thing that really pinpoints a time frame that he may come back.
I also found it interesting that in the new thread that was posted today about Katherine saying "Why hold a trial?" That she goes out of her way to mention the Smooth Criminal fans. Smooth Criminal is the video in TII with Gilda. Also one of the big clues that MJ is not gone. To me, that hint is glaring.
Peeping in again. :) Only time will tell.
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Since I had children I have very vivid dreams that seem to happen in realtime, I even had one where I was sitting on a couch absolutely bored out of my mind for hours on end and it felt like I did actually experience that!! Exciting I know. Sometimes I do have bizarre dreams but never about MJ, I usually remember those dreams and sometimes I have numerous dreams all intertwined like plot threads in a movie even though the plots are completely unrelated to each other(or seem so). I know some people find examining their dreams a bit scary but I think it's scarier not to have dreams and not wonder about them.
I thought I was the only one who had these interwoven dreams where nothing relates to anything else except in tiny spurts. That's fascinating. I wonder what does that mean. I rarely dream because I rarely experience REM sleep. But most times when I do, they are so jumbled that when I awake, I cannot really recall much of what the dream was about. I did have one recently about Michael that was as clear as night and day. It was a positive dream too and I woke up feeling very peaceful. It wasn't until I woke up did I realize that it was Michael I had dreamed about.
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hi guys i wanted to use this thread for this post because jill started it. jill 's stepmother has just died and she has asked me to pray. i didn't think she would mind if i asked any of you who would to join me..