Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Theories => Michael's Reasons to hoax his death => Topic started by: JMseesMJ on April 06, 2011, 08:25:10 AM
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Dear members,
This is my 7. post. I saved it for a special occasion.
I feel as if it's time for me to sum up the past two years and share my thoughts with you.
Don't worry and don't cry, I won't leave yet and the forum won't crash after you've read this, lol ! Sorry, just a reference to my BFFs....
Many hoax believers have different opinions and expectations about the motivation behind Michael Jackson's faked death. Many of you think that there must be something very big and important behind it, external factors that more or less forced him to that decision. To me it seems that his main reasons might have been simply personal ones. The life he lead up to the 25th of June 2009 didn't match with what he had envisioned for himself for his own future. That I suppose wouldn't be 'enough' of a reason for some. Are they hoping for a more 'serious' cause or do they crave another sensation ? Would Michael lose his credibility or the believer's respect when they find out about the real reason(s) ? Maybe. Everybody has to make decisions in life, minor ones and important ones that entail serious consequences. Some can relate to another person's decisions, others can't. So what. Being true to yourself is what count's, if it makes you happy - go for it...
In order to avoid that crushing scrutiny with which his decision could be condemned after revealing the reasons, Michael has to refrain from appearing in public again altogether. After all, the memory of his former life is still fresh. Who wants to live under a microscope until they die....
Maybe staying hidden wasn't his intention from the beginning, maybe he changed his plan.
The believers are only a minority, but the clues from 2009 were definitely planted for us. So it was important to him that somebody would find them. (I am not so sure about other clues that came later, though. Too many stakeholders that have a potential interest to jump on that bandwagon....) MJHD was created a.s.a.p. and after some 'difficulties' Souza and Mo took over, you all know the story. It was and still is very important to have that forum, it gives hope to people, hope that Michael, their idol, could still be alive. A platform where all inconsistencies can be investigated (forum members collectively discovered their inner detective) and discussed with people who think alike, share the same interest and work on something big together, there was this mutual consent, all a thrilling joint-venture-research-project. Everybody was very busy and as a result harmony and unity ruled. Members became confident that Michael indeed faked his death. Even non-fans became aware of Michael's brilliance and admire him now for what he has done and what he represents. Everybody sees him differently, of course, but always positive to the core. Along the way we also discovered the man - the human behind the KOP.
And there was more... something very precious... Most of us have stated that this journey has pushed us to the limits many times. And this opened up a new way of living for us. Our perspective, our consciousness, our awareness, our actions, the way we live now in comparison to before the 'death' - all has CHANGED ! And you know what ? We did it all by ourselves !!! With a little help from the more extrovert members and our lovely Admin Souza, of course. Do you realise what that means ? We've made that change ! Isn't that what a certain someone always wanted to initiate ???
B U T ----- yes, there is always a but and I am coming back to what I hinted at in the beginning: For a period of time now, I sense a disturbance in that mutual feeling of harmony among the believers. Now that we are 'used' to the thought that Michael is alive, negative vibes can influence us again and I don't only mean guest's opinions, lol. The behaviour of some forum members changed before that. Disrespect, prejudice, jealousy, pride, 'knowers versus believers' and infighting occurred. Group dynamics par excellence. It comes in waves, I always think of sea anemones then... It isn't enough anymore, to KNOW he is alive, people want to know why he faked his death and they want to know the exact reason for it and it better be good... There has to be a scapegoat, or an entity which can be blamed. Really ? Think about it...
Can anyone demand the presentation of the reason ? Can believers demand a BAM ? Are they not crushing Michael with this expectation ? Is it maybe unfair ? Think again !
Kind regards
JMseesMJ
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And there was more... something very precious... Most of us have stated that this journey has pushed us to the limits many times. And this opened up a new way of living for us. Our perspective, our consciousness, our awareness, our actions, the way we live now in comparison to before the 'death' - all has CHANGED ! And you know what ? We did it all by ourselves !!! With a little help from the more extrovert members and our lovely Admin Souza, of course. Do you realise what that means ? We've made that change ! Isn't that what a certain someone always wanted to initiate ???
There certainly was a change, I don't know if it was THAT change he expected from us.
Can believers demand a BAM ? Are they not crushing Michael with this expectation ? Is it maybe unfair ? Think again !
To answer oyur question: NO, we can't demand anything, we don't have that right and I'm sure nobody wants to pressure Michael with their expectation.
Yet......yet......we care about him enough to spend 2 years of our lives living and breathing Michael Jackson every single day... he ows nothing to us but as long as we can't be 100% sure that the clues were not the result of our rich imagination, maybe ......I dare to say maybe we deserve him back.
I am aware that probably this won't happen, probably because he doesn't want to - but more, because he might as well be dead.
Anyway, all this adventure would have a sad and dissapointing ending without his return.
But as we say in our daily prayer.....Your will be done.....
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I don't see why this journey should have a sad and disappointing ending. Maybe this isn't supposed to have an ending as we understand the meaning of the word. These two years are a part of our lives now. Life in general is a continuing process and some processes are painful. Think of giving birth, it is very painful, yet rewarding and retrospectively a wonderful experience, very unique. Our journey in Hoaxland 'with him leading the way' compares to that I think. Kind of a rebirth experience for all of us.
Don't forget the good old adage from K'ung-fu-tzu 'The way is the goal'....
We are all here because of him (remember those words ?) This time looking for him, learning about him isn't wasted. Not at all. It is an important, thrilling and valuable process of CHANGE:
L-earn
O-vercome
V-alue
E-volve
He wanted to let the King of Pop die and we should accept that decision. But that was just one part of him, the public persona - an image. I think we can expect more from him in the future, because an artist just can't stop creating, e.g. song releases from his vault, new 'leaked' music under some pseudonym (think of Jason Malachi...), games, Circe Show and more...
We haven't seen half of the mega deal with Sony, the biggest recording contract in history !
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We are all here because of him (remember those words ?)
How could I forget those words?
It was late after midnight in Romania and I stayed awake to see the trailer and once I saw it the questions started.
Why Kenny said "with him leading the way"?
Why Michael said "it's an adventure, a great adventure"?
Why someone said "Michael has a depth people don't really know" ?
It was worth not sleeping that night to see the trailer and I was hooked........
As much as I wanted to forget about it I couldn't, there was a mistery there to be found, and during this journey his fascinating personality became my daily job.
You think This is it will ever end? Or will grow even more up to a level we can't even imagine now?
Or everything will die if Murray will be found guilty :( ?
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I don't see why this journey should have a sad and disappointing ending.
You don't see why but it's simple.
Because HE is not with us (http://planetsmilies.net/sad-smiley-411.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net)
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Or everything will die if Murray will be found guilty :( ?
That is a very good question and the answer is depressing me, I really feel that if Murray is lead to jail it will mean that MJ is really dead.
Do you think he might be alive and let someone go to jail to preserve his secret?! :cry:
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You write from my heart!! My exact feelings.
I've always thought that the clues from the beginning were to get people to "see" the hoax. Some did, most did not. That in it self is more of what Michael "preached" about. Believing the press instead of HIM. Now as time went on, more clues, which I believed was to keep us believers, believing. But, honestly, I have thought, maybe...TMZ catches Murray because it is getting their ratings up. On the other hand, we want to think they are in cahoots with Michael/hoax, don't we? But, you are right about the furthering of clues, people do stand to gain by them. People like that artist on twitter...
I also thought though, at first, that Michael just simply left. Got out of sight because he didn't want to tour..he wanted to be a dad. That disappearing gave him freedom to write songs (the big contract) and not tour, and also, cleared his name and bank account. I thought, that he left for religious reasons, to reconnect.
But, you and I differ here. After the initial thoughts of him leaving for personal reasons only, and the clues for us to reassure us of him being alive, I began to think about the real Michael and the life he'd lead/didn't LIVE. I thought, leaving would give him freedom. But, now, really, leaving only made LIVING impossible. He lived behind gates. He lived in disguises. Now, living DEAD, he'd NEVER have a life without those disguises. He'd never leave the self-imposed prison. He could NEVER be caught alive so living outside a HOUSE would be impossible forever. The chance to see his kids over, because one day SOMEONE would tell ..someone would see him on a plane...something. He'd never be free to go anyplace with his kids. Now I think that his leaving could not be just to stay gone. He WOULD have TO live as a DEADMAN to live alive, FOREVER.
I love your posts, and I truly have to wonder about YOU and if YOU are Michael, leading us to other thoughts. Really, wouldn't YOU if you'd read posts like your own? I have to wonder who you are. But, no matter, I tend to agree with most of what you write and hope you continue.
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You think This is it will ever end? Or will grow even more up to a level we can't even imagine now?
Or everything will die if Murray will be found guilty :( ?
MJ said he liked his work to have a beginning, middle and an end. So it would follow that if O2 announcement was the beginning, 'death' and subsequent months of doubt and confusion could be the middle, then there WILL be an obvious end at some point. Trouble is we could still be in the beginning phase! Or the middle might go on for years. Maybe Murray being found guilty could be a part of the plan that we ought to be prepared for. Until we get to 'the end' we can't know where everything fits into the plot. It's not like a film where we can say there's 10 minutes left so they've got to start tieing up the loose ends now.
Or maybe we've already had 'the end'. I don't know what this particular piece of work is/was. Was it 'The King of Pop', it's already had it's beginning, middle and end (with his 'death'), and it's like one of those films that some can just walk away and forget but leave others with questions that they want answers to.
We can speculate and guess as long as we like but we are mere spectators and we know nothing for sure. The best we can do is watch with an open mind and heart and hope that finally we will get the answers, and 'end' we want.
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You think This is it will ever end? Or will grow even more up to a level we can't even imagine now?
Or everything will die if Murray will be found guilty :( ?
MJ said he liked his work to have a beginning, middle and an end. So it would follow that if O2 announcement was the beginning, 'death' and subsequent months of doubt and confusion could be the middle, then there WILL be an obvious end at some point. Trouble is we could still be in the beginning phase! Or the middle might go on for years. Maybe Murray being found guilty could be a part of the plan that we ought to be prepared for. Until we get to 'the end' we can't know where everything fits into the plot. It's not like a film where we can say there's 10 minutes left so they've got to start tieing up the loose ends now.
Or maybe we've already had 'the end'. I don't know what this particular piece of work is/was. Was it 'The King of Pop', it's already had it's beginning, middle and end (with his 'death'), and it's like one of those films that some can just walk away and forget but leave others with questions that they want answers to.
We can speculate and guess as long as we like but we are mere spectators and we know nothing for sure. The best we can do is watch with an open mind and heart and hope that finally we will get the answers, and 'end' we want.
THIS IS IT is the beginning. (MJ's "death", - doubting.. research.)
IS THIS IT is the middle. (Confusion, suspicious events, new clues. Is this really IT?)
THIS ISN'T IT is the end. (MJ's comeback. This isn't it at all.)
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MJ said he liked his work to have a beginning, middle and an end.
THIS IS IT is the beginning. (MJ's "death", - doubting.. research.)
IS THIS IT is the middle. (Confusion, suspicious events, new clues. Is this really IT?)
THIS ISN'T IT is the end. (MJ's comeback. This isn't it at all.)
Or maybe This is it meant then end of his biggest work: his life
Keep the faith
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Many hoax believers have different opinions and expectations about the motivation behind Michael Jackson's faked death. Many of you think that there must be something very big and important behind it, external factors that more or less forced him to that decision. To me it seems that his main reasons might have been simply personal ones. The life he lead up to the 25th of June 2009 didn't match with what he had envisioned for himself for his own future. That I suppose wouldn't be 'enough' of a reason for some. Are they hoping for a more 'serious' cause or do they crave another sensation ? Would Michael lose his credibility or the believer's respect when they find out about the real reason(s) ?
My answer to this is very clear. No I don't think Michael would lose his credibility or respect if the reasons of the hoax are personal and not what we were lead to believe.
But most of all we LOVE the man, so there's no way this love could fade because of not-so-noble reasons for the hoax - like saving the world of illuminati.
Of course, if he did that, I will kill him with my bear hands if I can catch him :lol:
Just kidding :mrgreen: ......I just want to know he is well, HAPPY, RICH AND FREE like he deserves !!
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I just want to know he is well, HAPPY, RICH AND FREE like he deserves [/color]!![/b]
Then you can be serene because dead or alive he can only be RICH and FREE. About Happiness I think I never saw anyone as smiling as him :D
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I just want to know he is well, HAPPY, RICH AND FREE like he deserves [/color]!![/b]
Then you can be serene because dead or alive he can only be RICH and FREE. About Happiness I think I never saw anyone as smiling as him :D
Seems like you believe that if a person who smiles is happy.
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Seems like you believe that if a person who smiles is happy.
Well I won't argue anymore after this answer cause I see we could play this for a while.
But YES in my point of view a guy who was smiling as he does in the private footage where he is playing with kids in Neverland must be a man full of happiness.
Specially if he has been haunted during his whole life and now leaves far away of cameras.
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@Gina
I agree with you, a smile doesn't equal happiness. Chaplin's song 'Smile' says it all....
@MjjProd
Murray won't go to jail. We've heard it before, he is just the fall guy and he was/is well compensated for his discomfort.
@fordtocarr
Why should it be impossible for him to leave the house ? Michael used to go to the movies with friends and elsewhere without being recognized even when he was still alive. Now being 'dead' things get much easier in this regard. A hoody, a cap, different hairstyle and a stubble should do the trick any day. There wouldn't be the need for elaborate disguises anymore.
Remember to the general public he is dead ! They would assume he is a look-alike or a crazy fan....lol.
Travelling internationally also shouldn't be a problem, a fake passport and a private jet will get you around the world.
And he doesn't necessarily need to sit directly beside the kids when they go someplace, does he ?
@curls
'This is it' fits perfectly into his methodology of having a beginning, a middle part and an ending:
His life as a public person/performer began when he became lead singer with the Jackson 5, the long middle part was his solo career and now This is it is the perfect ending ! His O2 announcement was the beginning of the ending actually. And the ending is still in progress right now. The entertainer in him wants us to enjoy it a little further...
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@MjjProd
Murray won't go to jail. We've heard it before, he is just the fall guy and he was/is well compensated for his discomfort
Do you have any proof of that compensation?
Once more, wait and see if he's going to jail :roll:
Anyhow something very odd once more: the idea of broadcasting the trial
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Do you have any proof of that compensation?
No, I don't have any proof that he actually received the 150 K for his services, since he hasn't granted me access to his bank account, lol.
Anyhow something very odd once more: the idea of broadcasting the trial
Read the last sentence in my last post.
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@MjjProd
Murray won't go to jail. We've heard it before, he is just the fall guy and he was/is well compensated for his discomfort.
@curls..... And the ending is still in progress right now. The entertainer in him wants us to enjoy it a little further...
I also think Murray won't go to jail, but this is just an opinion and it's based on nothing very solid, just TMZ articles.
JM, I think you know the part in bold is very very very depressing......it's like you tell us - enjoy the trial and than you can say goodbye forever to Michael Jackson because that will be the end of it........
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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But what can we possibly demand from him? It's his life and he ows us nothing :( .
Speaking of this trial, last evening I was thinking of Jesus and His trial, when he was brought in front of Pilat and then sent to be judged by the jewish .......
Don't know why I'm thinking of this.......Elvis had no trials?
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@Gina
I agree with you, a smile doesn't equal happiness. Chaplin's song 'Smile' says it all....
correction: that should read "doesn't necessarily equal happiness."
Gina, I've often thought about the parallels between the Passion of Jesus and Michael's trial and this particular trial now. Also, those weeks of lent, would give some people time to contemplate. Palm Sunday isn't far..... Perfect timing, again....
To me it doesn't really matter if the people in Jesus' trial were Jewish or of any other religion, what they have in common with people nowadays is the tendency to judgemental thinking based on superficial knowledge - dangerous. They had made their minds up without knowing facts and details long before the verdict. At the time their craving for a spectacle forced Pilate to his decision. Peoples minds still work like 2000 years ago, don't you think ? The general public still thinks Michael is guilty, even if he was acquitted of all charges. Now they think CM must be guilty of killing Michael.
I think we should trust in Michael, if he wants us to see the trial, it must be for a reason. Try to push away your sad and negative feelings and let's watch, maybe it is supposed to be an eye-opener and we can learn something from it....
The truth shall prevail.
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maybe it is supposed to be an eye-opener and we can learn something from it....
The truth shall prevail.
Wait and pray people :lol:
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@Gina
I agree with you, a smile doesn't equal happiness. Chaplin's song 'Smile' says it all....
correction: that should read "doesn't necessarily equal happiness."
Gina, I've often thought about the parallels between the Passion of Jesus and Michael's trial and this particular trial now. Also, those weeks of lent, would give some people time to contemplate. Palm Sunday isn't far..... Perfect timing, again....
To me it doesn't really matter if the people in Jesus' trial were Jewish or of any other religion, what they have in common with people nowadays is the tendency to judgemental thinking based on superficial knowledge - dangerous. They had made their minds up without knowing facts and details long before the verdict. At the time their craving for a spectacle forced Pilate to his decision. Peoples minds still work like 2000 years ago, don't you think ? The general public still thinks Michael is guilty, even if he was acquitted of all charges. Now they think CM must be guilty of killing Michael.
I think we should trust in Michael, if he wants us to see the trial, it must be for a reason. Try to push away your sad and negative feelings and let's watch, maybe it is supposed to be an eye-opener and we can learn something from it....
The truth shall prevail.
Now you make me understand why Michael's trials reminds me of Jesus' trial.
You are right, it doesn't matter they were jewish or not, they represented prejudice, prejudgement.
Now maybe CM's trial will be different? It certainly looks like a reality show, at least for us.
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maybe it is supposed to be an eye-opener and we can learn something from it....
The truth shall prevail.
Wait and pray people :lol:
You think we'll laugh in the last?
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You think we'll laugh in the last?
I don't think so but WISH so (crossing fingers).
Like Dan Aykroyd in Liberian girl: "Oh, mike !"
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You think we'll laugh in the last?
I don't think so but WISH so (crossing fingers).
Like Dan Aykroyd in Liberian girl: "Oh, mike !"
What if HE appears in court at the end of the trial and the whole world will say OH MIKE :o ?
Nooooo...this won't happen :cry:
Maybe we have to pray day and night for it to happen......
Like my son who's praying for 3 years now to receive the magical wand.....
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All the clues of a comeback (BAM) are there, from the lyrics in his songs and symbolic imagery right through to the memorial and the movie 'This Is It'. It will happen, I know it's hard to beLIEve 100% day in day out but it will happen, the truth WILL prevail! Keep the faith, you'll see Michael soon enough! :)
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Tell me, what possible reason could he have for coming back ?
To pick up his life from where he left it, even perform on stage again ?
Or do you think he would come back just for explaining to the world in detail why he did this and how he pulled it all off ? The public would think that he finally went insane. No way Jose.
I don't know how old you are (is 93 your y.o.b ?), but when you get older your emphasis shift, other things become more important to you. I would say even more so if you've had it all as a superstar and have given your all to others for such a long time. I think he also wanted to avoid that the world would see an ageing popstar, who 'needs' to perform until he literally can't move anymore.
Admittedly he could have just declared that he wants to become a filmmaker, songwriter, father or what ever from now on. As Kenny Ortega put it aptly when he said: "...death was unnecessary..." But hey, it's Michael Jackson, he is different than other guys, right !
His message is clear. Incorporate more love into your daily life and become aware of the evil things that are going on in the world. We all became or are in the middle of becoming more alert to these things, the forums helped a great deal.
I don't think that a BAM would wake up more people and turn them into independent, critical thinkers. The majority likes to doze and swallow what's being presented, they follow the path of least resistance, instead of the yellow brick road, lol. ! Sad but fact.
And should exposing criminal activity be one of the reasons he went into hiding, I am sure the FBI can handle the completion of any operation without him returning in the end.
Aahhh, it must be wonderful to be finally able to do what you always wanted..... :mrgreen:
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I've thought about the previous comment all along too. If he comes back to the public, what does he say, "Oh I hoaxed my death for such and such reasons (and used a dead mans body to do it??). I don't want you media/paps to hound me for reasons and I don't want to live in a glass house anymore. Just leave me alone so I can be a daddy and make may music and do movie."
I think he'll be dogged even more than before this and need even MORE protection. He'll really be hounded like Princess Di. Plus, the wacko will turn into "liar"...I can't even think of the words they'll all say.
I know there are clues, so either we are twisting things to fit a hoax or they are there...but, I can't see how he'll go on after doing this.
It has become so mind boggling that I can't barely follow the topics and comments anymore.
I just trust my gut feeling, without ANY clues from day one, that he's alive. I don't really NOW worry about they how and why's because that is messing up my joy in my present life. I still jump in topics, but...tend to brush them off now. Michael's plan will show itself in his time. All the speculating will not make any of us right or wrong or make it all happen any faster.
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Aahhh, it must be wonderful to be finally able to do what you always wanted..... :mrgreen:
What is it that he always wanted? I don't get what you mean.
Or maybe you mean that he's enjoying being dead and alive at the same time?
This is somehow like being invisible with all the advantages that comes with it (when I was a child I wanted so much to be invisible! :mrgreen: ) .
This might be a world of fun for him, the ultimate prank that he could have ever played to the world. But what about the kids? Even if they might not be his biological ones - he must love them very much...what kind of a life is that when he can't be with them openly?
On the other hand I admit you are right. He has nothing to come back for
The public would think that he finally went insane.
:lol:
yeah you are right....
But this bothered him so much before? He was perceived as weird by a part of the public because of his unusual behaviour that narrow people can't understand but he did it willingly, to shock the world every time cause it's his nature of performer.
You think he wants to be seen as sane now? Well, Michael, can't you see it ain't working?
Who thought before you were insane still believes it, who saw your true nature didn't believe it before and won't start believe it now if you come back.
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@Gina
Peoples minds still work like 2000 years ago, don't you think ? The general public still thinks Michael is guilty, even if he was acquitted of all charges. Now they think CM must be guilty of killing Michael.
I think we should trust in Michael, if he wants us to see the trial, it must be for a reason. Try to push away your sad and negative feelings and let's watch, maybe it is supposed to be an eye-opener and we can learn something from it....
The truth shall prevail.
JMseesMJ - thank you for your thorough, well thought out posts. Very interesting indeed.
I agree with a poster above - you do sound very confident in your words, like one who has inside knowledge. I'm wondering how you know the deal with CM was for $150,000? If he is a real doctor that is not much compensation is it? Think about how long he's been on this adventure with the rest of us...and the tarnish to his own name (if it's a real name that is).
I agree with you. Even if Dr Murray goes to jail it does not mean that Michael is dead. We still don't know the real reasons for any of this. The timing for everything in this hoax has been spot on - so it's no surprise that this falls around Easter. My personal hope is that regardless of the meaning, Michael find total vindication from all of the false allegations. And, I do believe we are seeing the tide turn in his favor although there is still plenty of work to do in that regard. Personally, I believe public acknowledgment from one of the accusers would be the one thing that would change the mindset in the most stubborn of people. I just don't think that will ever happen.
I trust Michael whole heartedly and I will be here to the end. In the end I believe that truth will prevail and I believe we will find the truth. I do believe we will have an ending and I believe none of us are probably prepared for what Michael has planned. That's my personal opinion. It's an adventure, for sure, and my eyes have been opened to a whole world I never took much time to think about. I also think that Michael would not have planted all of these clues unless he intended on returning.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It's very thought-provoking. Blessings.
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JM how you convinced me he has nothing to come back for? Of course he has and I think he will (IF he's alive).
Now he's busy preparing the show-trial and once he will prove that Trial by the media applied to Murray just like it was applied to him in 1993 and 2005, he will come back!!
He can't resist coming back to taste a bit of his own show :twisted: .
At least i hope so
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I'm wondering how you know the deal with CM was for $150,000? If he is a real doctor that is not much compensation is it?
It was $ 150,000 per month.... and I read it in a magazine ;)
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I'm wondering how you know the deal with CM was for $150,000? If he is a real doctor that is not much compensation is it?
It was $ 150,000 per month.... and I read it in a magazine ;)
$ 50,000/month. I tend to think MJ won't be back otherwise his parents will not file wrongful death lawsuit against AEG.
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Hello JMseesMJ
From the beginning I always have been a firm believer that MJ hoaxed his Death because his life was in danger, but your post really hit me.
You wrote about the life he lead up to June 2009 and that it didn’t match with what he envisioned for himself etc. Time cannot be reversed, and we all know how MJ thought about his childhood. You mentioned that the reason of the hoax might have been simply personal ones. So I started thinking, could it be that he came to the conclusion that his children can’t enjoy their childhood. As long as MJ was there, It was almost a mission impossible, they were hounded by the media, masks, no public schooling, no holidays, no slumber parties, etc. I think that this also didn’t match with what he had envisioned for his children.
Is it for the LOVE of his children that he hoaxed his death, so they could step out of his shadow and so they get the change to make friends, to develop their own identities, go to a public school and other places and not only after closing times.
As a devoted father he didn’t want to take away what he had missed, just a taste of some normal life at the most important time/phase of their lives (puberty). In the mean time I think MJ is making movies and is on the loose in public, maybe with a bald head, a beard, colored lenses and a pair of sneakers
It reminds me of MJ’s own words “don’t forget the children” and the words of La Toya “family comes first”.
So JmseesMJ when you talk about MJ maybe hoaxed his death for personal reasons, I think it is quite possible and I don’t think we can demand a bam or demand a presentation for the reason. Whatever the reason may be, who am I or we to judge? But what happens with Dr Murray without a BAM, don’t you think MJ has some explaining to do, to clear the man’s name.
Bye bye Nyuki ;)
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Thank you JMseesMJ for all your posts. I must say that I agree with everything you say. If Michael doesn't come back, that is fine with me, as long as he is happy and living the life that he wants, that is enough for me.
I agree that if Michael came back most people would still treat him badly and not believe him. Michael is too intelligent to even try and reach some of the hardened hearts out there.
But if Michael does read this forum, I wish you so much love Michael, thank you for everything you have given your fans and I hope you can now relax, have fun and live your life with freedom; YOUR FANS WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU. ;)
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When I look at footage of some of the stuff MJ had to put up with in his everyday life I quite understand if he wants to live the life of an ordinary bloke. i mean dude couldn't show himself on a shopping spree or on a visit to the zoo without folks fainting and crying and going into emotional overdrive. How weird isn't this? I mean MJ must have wondered what on earth was going on! It is enough to send anyone round the bend, and he put up with it year in and year out since he was a tiny kid---- Think about it! Dude needs a rest...PRIVACY!
And of course he would think about protecting his children and not subjecting them to this kind of weirdness...
And he would probably like to get out gracefully, before he became an aged performer who got an applause for any little move he made... Makes me think of Greta Garbo who went into seclusion after her Hollywood careerin order to avoid facing cameras and being compared to how she looked when she was at the height of her career.
So for my part I cannot see any reason for his coming back. He is out of the cage and can walk down the street without any old hoopla! It must feel fantastic! :) :) :) And he can still write songs, and scripts and be creative in so many ways seeing that he is trailing creativity in abundance! He has become The Man-finally!
And since he has entertained us so royally for so long now is the time for us to entertain him!
Bearing This Is It in mind I was inspired to write a little poem. Nota bene- when I say "I want you back" I mean I want MJ to be back in the form of a human being in the world of the living, not that he needs to step out of the shadows on to a stage again!!!
Copyright 2010 All Rights Reserved
By Titania James
A Pair of Magic Slippers
Hey You!
Yes You,
Michael Joseph Jackson!
Why did you have to go
And leave my world
So dull and dark and cold?
I want you back!
Was it because we put a pair of wings upon your back
And turned you into a superhuman fascination?
Was it the tabloids stretching you on the rack
Year in and year out of incessant character assassination?
Here I stand
I feel grand
I am the light of the world run away!
Yes, I want you back, Michael Joseph Jackson!
But you can forget about the stranger in the orange pants-
The tabloid junkie creation!
You can forget about the glittery gold pants-
sexy gyrations making dames swoon of all nations!
I want the master and commander in the grey suit-
The director in control of his creation-
So cool-so smart -so human
A perfectionist at work, such a TRUE man!
I promise not to go bananas
Over a guy in red silk pyjamas!
I promise not to swoon
And slobber all over your chest like a demented loon!
Just accept a pair of magic slippers-
Some TLC from me to you-
A gift of LOVE from this Cinderella
To her goofy Rockin fella!
Titania
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When I look at footage of some of the stuff MJ had to put up with in his everyday life I quite understand if he wants to live the life of an ordinary bloke. i mean dude couldn't show himself on a shopping spree or on a visit to the zoo without folks fainting and crying and going into emotional overdrive. How weird isn't this? I mean MJ must have wondered what on earth was going on! It is enough to send anyone round the bend, and he put up with it year in and year out since he was a tiny kid---- Think about it! Dude needs a rest...PRIVACY!
And of course he would think about protecting his children and not subjecting them to this kind of weirdness...
And he would probably like to get out gracefully, before he became an aged performer who got an applause for any little move he made... Makes me think of Greta Garbo who went into seclusion after her Hollywood careerin order to avoid facing cameras and being compared to how she looked when she was at the height of her career.
So for my part I cannot see any reason for his coming back. He is out of the cage and can walk down the street without any old hoopla! It must feel fantastic! :) :) :) And he can still write songs, and scripts and be creative in so many ways seeing that he is trailing creativity in abundance! He has become The Man-finally!
And since he has entertained us so royally for so long now is the time for us to entertain him!
Bearing This Is It in mind I was inspired to write a little poem. Nota bene- when I say "I want you back" I mean I want MJ to be back in the form of a human being in the world of the living, not that he needs to step out of the shadows on to a stage again!!!
Copyright 2010 All Rights Reserved
By Titania
A Pair of Magic Slippers
Hey You!
Yes You,
Michael Joseph Jackson!
Why did you have to go
And leave my world
So dull and dark and cold?
I want you back!
Was it because we put a pair of wings upon your back
And turned you into a superhuman fascination?
Was it the tabloids stretching you on the rack
Year in and year out of incessant character assassination?
Here I stand
I feel grand
I am the light of the world run away!
Yes, I want you back, Michael Joseph Jackson!
But you can forget about the stranger in the orange pants-
The tabloid junkie creation!
You can forget about the glittery gold pants-
sexy gyrations making dames swoon of all nations!
I want the master and commander in the grey suit-
The director in control of his creation-
So cool-so smart -so human
A perfectionist at work, such a TRUE man!
I promise not to go bananas
Over a guy in red silk pyjamas!
I promise not to swoon
And slobber all over your chest like a demented loon!
Just accept a pair of magic slippers-
Some TLC from me to you-
A gift of LOVE from this Cinderella
To her goofy Rockin fella!
Titania
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Playing dead to give the children a chance to a "normal" life?
This turns upside down everything I thought I knew about the greatest entertainer of all times.
Dear Michael, will you surround yourself in mystery forever :( ?
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Playing dead to give the children a chance to a "normal" life?
This turns upside down everything I thought I knew about the greatest entertainer of all times.
Dear Michael, will you surround yourself in mystery forever :( ?
In time we will know...we just have to be patient :P
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When I look at footage of some of the stuff MJ had to put up with in his everyday life I quite understand if he wants to live the life of an ordinary bloke. i mean dude couldn't show himself on a shopping spree or on a visit to the zoo without folks fainting and crying and going into emotional overdrive. How weird isn't this? I mean MJ must have wondered what on earth was going on! It is enough to send anyone round the bend, and he put up with it year in and year out since he was a tiny kid---- Think about it! Dude needs a rest...PRIVACY!
And of course he would think about protecting his children and not subjecting them to this kind of weirdness...
And he would probably like to get out gracefully, before he became an aged performer who got an applause for any little move he made... Makes me think of Greta Garbo who went into seclusion after her Hollywood careerin order to avoid facing cameras and being compared to how she looked when she was at the height of her career.
So for my part I cannot see any reason for his coming back. He is out of the cage and can walk down the street without any old hoopla! It must feel fantastic! :) :) :) And he can still write songs, and scripts and be creative in so many ways seeing that he is trailing creativity in abundance! He has become The Man-finally!
And since he has entertained us so royally for so long now is the time for us to entertain him!
Bearing This Is It in mind I was inspired to write a little poem. Nota bene- when I say "I want you back" I mean I want MJ to be back in the form of a human being in the world of the living, not that he needs to step out of the shadows on to a stage again!!!
Copyright 2010 All Rights Reserved
By Titania
A Pair of Magic Slippers
Hey You!
Yes You,
Michael Joseph Jackson!
Why did you have to go
And leave my world
So dull and dark and cold?
I want you back!
Was it because we put a pair of wings upon your back
And turned you into a superhuman fascination?
Was it the tabloids stretching you on the rack
Year in and year out of incessant character assassination?
Here I stand
I feel grand
I am the light of the world run away!
Yes, I want you back, Michael Joseph Jackson!
But you can forget about the stranger in the orange pants-
The tabloid junkie creation!
You can forget about the glittery gold pants-
sexy gyrations making dames swoon of all nations!
I want the master and commander in the grey suit-
The director in control of his creation-
So cool-so smart -so human
A perfectionist at work, such a TRUE man!
I promise not to go bananas
Over a guy in red silk pyjamas!
I promise not to swoon
And slobber all over your chest like a demented loon!
Just accept a pair of magic slippers-
Some TLC from me to you-
A gift of LOVE from this Cinderella
To her goofy Rockin fella!
Titania
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Hi Titania
What a strange poem.....I wish i could write poems in English but it's just too difficult for me.
Anyway, Cinderella, I'm not sure I understand the message of your poem to Michael.
What I think I understand is that you are over the goldpants disorder (good for you :lol: ).
Sorry for being so superficial sometimes, I can't constantly keep myself up to this hoax standards .
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@ Wannabe-Shakespeare aka Titania
Did you drink that magical flower juice ? It's supposed to bedew your eyelids, didn't you know that ?
So when the effect has faded you can paste your poem for the fourth time, but please do it at the 'messages for Michael' section.
On your way over beware of the creatures out there, you might meet Oberon.... :lol:
....and work on your rhythm and rhyme scheme before you hit 'submit'. ;)
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Hi Titania
What a strange poem.....I wish i could write poems in English but it's just too difficult for me.
Anyway, Cinderella, I'm not sure I understand the message of your poem to Michael.
What I think I understand is that you are over the goldpants disorder (good for you :lol: ).
Sorry for being so superficial sometimes, I can't constantly keep myself up to this hoax standards .
My message in this poem is really that I am trying to make sense of tHIS iS IT! And that I see three different MJ's in it. That he was caught up in being sexy gold pants on stage and the strange media creation off stage. The MJ in the grey suit is the real one who wants to direct and make beautiful music and is an excellent business man. And then i combined that with seeling myself as Cinderella beacuse feel like that a lot of the time.
Superficial? Oh, we all need to get off the Neverland hoax carousel fron time to time in order to maintain equilibrium. My poem is pretty superficial...But it takes a lot of hard work to appear as superficial as me... :D
Thank you for the feedback- much appreciated!
Titania
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@ Wannabe-Shakespeare aka Titania
Did you drink that magical flower juice ? It's supposed to bedew your eyelids, didn't you know that ?
So when the effect has faded you can paste your poem for the fourth time, but please do it at the 'messages for Michael' section.
On your way over beware of the creatures out there, you might meet Oberon.... :lol:
....and work on your rhythm and rhyme scheme before you hit 'submit'. ;)
Beware of mocking me, Sir Oberon! You know I am a temperamental fairy queen!
And it is a shame that the magic potion ran down from my eyelids on to my lips! Puck the mischievous imp needs must improve his aim so as not to cause confusion in hoax land. Here i am Iforever searching for the delete button but alas, I try to edit and erase content and instead I end up with three times post instead! :shock: :shock: :shock:
HELP ! i am indeed most sorry for the inconveniece, :o
And I posted here since this poem is an effort to make head or tails of ThIS IIs It....But I will most humbly move to other section if this is thy desire...
BTW DIid you know that Shakespeare was in fact not Shakeseare but Kit Marlowe in disguise? :roll:
Titania
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So I started thinking, could it be that he came to the conclusion that his children can’t enjoy their childhood. As long as MJ was there, It was almost a mission impossible, they were hounded by the media, masks, no public schooling, no holidays, no slumber parties, etc. I think that this also didn’t match with what he had envisioned for his children.
Is it for the LOVE of his children that he hoaxed his death, so they could step out of his shadow and so they get the change to make friends, to develop their own identities, go to a public school and other places and not only after closing times.
As a devoted father he didn’t want to take away what he had missed, just a taste of some normal life at the most important time/phase of their lives (puberty).
I'd thought of this too. It's something that often seems overlooked, but it is a very logical and justifiable reason for MJ to hoax his death. Still, and in light of everything discussed on this forum, consideration of his children is presumably only part of the reason for the hoax.
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@ Wannabe-Shakespeare aka Titania
Did you drink that magical flower juice ? It's supposed to bedew your eyelids, didn't you know that ?
So when the effect has faded you can paste your poem for the fourth time, but please do it at the 'messages for Michael' section.
On your way over beware of the creatures out there, you might meet Oberon.... :lol:
....and work on your rhythm and rhyme scheme before you hit 'submit'. ;)
Beware of mocking me, Sir Oberon! You know I am a temperamental fairy queen!
And it is a shame that the magic potion ran down from my eyelids on to my lips! Puck the mischievous imp needs must improve his aim so as not to cause confusion in hoax land. Here i am Iforever searching for the delete button but alas, I try to edit and erase content and instead I end up with three times post instead! :shock: :shock: :shock:
HELP ! i am indeed most sorry for the inconveniece, :o
And I posted here since this poem is an effort to make head or tails of ThIS IIs It....But I will most humbly move to other section if this is thy desire...
BTW DIid you know that Shakespeare was in fact not Shakeseare but Kit Marlowe in disguise? :roll:
Titania
You guys are funny funny funny :mrgreen:
OK, and I really mean it, which one of you is Puck :lol: ?
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As there's no way of learning the truth about who's who, I will just make sure to say hello to Cinderella, Oberon, the fairy queen, Shakespeare and last but not least - to the puppet master Puck :mrgreen:
Did I miss someone?
Oh, Michael, to you too :D