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Title: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: finfin on April 09, 2011, 05:36:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ylqotGe ... ture=feedu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ylqotGeazM&feature=feedu)
[youtube:85fagvqv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ylqotGeazM&feature=feedu[/youtube:85fagvqv]
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Heartbreaker on April 09, 2011, 06:14:04 AM
Thanks for sharing finfin, it is interesting ... best of joy Lyric clues .... hmmm
Where did Pearl has this information. Who is the person  :?
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: MissG on April 09, 2011, 08:44:47 AM
Just listened to the song. I still cry like a baby when listening to Michael´s songs  :oops: *blows nose, cleans mascara mess*

I guess that the song was written then before the 25th of June 2009. So, as Pearl says, when was it recordered? and, by who?
Still there are people who think that the album Michael is fake.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Starchild on April 09, 2011, 09:34:28 AM
Quote from: "Heartbreaker"
Thanks for sharing finfin, it is interesting ... best of joy Lyric clues .... hmmm
Where did Pearl has this information. Who is the person  :?
Exactly--hmmm, don't know what to make of this.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Solid121 on April 09, 2011, 11:14:06 AM
:roll:
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 09, 2011, 11:14:29 AM
Thank you for sharing this video with us.

I know many people think Pearl Jr is only out for her own gain and that may be true but I am one that believes she's trying to reach out to the unbelievers who may not otherwise listen in an attempt to bring them hope. She makes her living from bringing the truth about Michael Jackson to the public so why not now? We can't ignore the fact that the Jackson family keeps inviting her to their events even though they know her beliefs.

As far as what she's saying, those three pieces of paper were given to Michael by someone who is/was involved in TINI (This Is Not It). It's interesting if what she's saying is true because this group boycotted the movie TII believing that Michael was forced to do this concert in spite of his own failing health. So, if she's right then at least one of them has within the last 5 months had a change of heart. Hmmm.... :)

If Michael is wanting to give clues to "all of his fans" then this group would be no exception and he knows that they couldn't ignore that piece of paper. Very interesting if this is true and at this point I have no reason not to believe Pearl Jr.

Blessings.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 09, 2011, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: "Gema"
Just listened to the song. I still cry like a baby when listening to Michael´s songs  :oops: *blows nose, cleans mascara mess*

I guess that the song was written then before the 25th of June 2009. So, as Pearl says, when was it recordered? and, by who?
Still there are people who think that the album Michael is fake.

That may not be true, right? If Michael had that piece of paper in his possession he could have written it after June 25th because those pieces of paper weren't revealed until recently. We were just told that he wrote that song a long time ago. And, that could be true except for the person said it was the paper she gave him June 24th.

Interesting.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Datroot on April 09, 2011, 11:42:44 AM
How does she know it was the exact paper she gave him?
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Starchild on April 09, 2011, 11:43:53 AM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "Gema"
Just listened to the song. I still cry like a baby when listening to Michael´s songs  :oops: *blows nose, cleans mascara mess*

I guess that the song was written then before the 25th of June 2009. So, as Pearl says, when was it recordered? and, by who?
Still there are people who think that the album Michael is fake.

That may not be true, right? If Michael had that piece of paper in his possession he could have written it after June 25th because those pieces of paper weren't revealed until recently. We were just told that he wrote that song a long time ago. And, that could be true except for the person said it was the paper she gave him June 24th.

Interesting.
And this is also presuming that the handwriting is indeed MJ's and not someone who, for whatever the reason, deliberately tried to fake it.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 09, 2011, 01:29:21 PM
One thing puzzles me, how did her friend know about the song? If she gave the 3 sheets of paper to Michael, and Michael wrote the song Best of JOy, did he gave her back the3 sheets? I don't understand. Unless once he supposedly died they found the written sheets some how. I do not have a clue. If anyone does can you please let us know.  I am all mixed up   :lol: Blessings.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: angelshadow on April 09, 2011, 01:59:40 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
One thing puzzles me, how did her friend know about the song? If she gave the 3 sheets of paper to Michael, and Michael wrote the song Best of JOy, did he gave her back the3 sheets? I don't understand. Unless once he supposedly died they found the written sheets some how. I do not have a clue. If anyone does can you please let us know.  I am all mixed up   :lol: Blessings.

To me it was made as well.
Somehow I do not understand this completely. :?
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 09, 2011, 02:03:18 PM
I cant even watch the video.. it doesnt load for me!
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: mjj4ever777 on April 09, 2011, 02:42:02 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Thank you for sharing this video with us.

I know many people think Pearl Jr is only out for her own gain and that may be true but I am one that believes she's trying to reach out to the unbelievers who may not otherwise listen in an attempt to bring them hope. She makes her living from bringing the truth about Michael Jackson to the public so why not now? We can't ignore the fact that the Jackson family keeps inviting her to their events even though they know her beliefs.

As far as what she's saying, those three pieces of paper were given to Michael by someone who is/was involved in TINI (This Is Not It). It's interesting if what she's saying is true because this group boycotted the movie TII believing that Michael was forced to do this concert in spite of his own failing health. So, if she's right then at least one of them has within the last 5 months had a change of heart. Hmmm.... :)

If Michael is wanting to give clues to "all of his fans" then this group would be no exception and he knows that they couldn't ignore that piece of paper. Very interesting if this is true and at this point I have no reason not to believe Pearl Jr.

Blessings.


This is very interesting. I guess we have to see if the girl who gave Michael that piece of paper comes forward now to say whether or not this is true. If it is true, you would think that she would be spreading this news to all of the non believers, right? After all, if this is true, it would be "concrete" evidence that Michael is alive! So, how do we verify this? Does anyone here know any of the girls from TINI?

Just my 2 cents :D  Blessings and Love to all!
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Dancer on April 09, 2011, 02:52:32 PM
Wow, this is interesting.... Thanks for sharing!

Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
I know many people think Pearl Jr is only out for her own gain and that may be true but I am one that believes she's trying to reach out to the unbelievers who may not otherwise listen in an attempt to bring them hope. She makes her living from bringing the truth about Michael Jackson to the public so why not now? We can't ignore the fact that the Jackson family keeps inviting her to their events even though they know her beliefs.

I agree.

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As far as what she's saying, those three pieces of paper were given to Michael by someone who is/was involved in TINI (This Is Not It).

What makes you think that it was someone involved in the TINI group? I think it can be someone not involved with this. Pearl just says it was a fan.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 09, 2011, 02:56:12 PM
Quote from: "Dancer"

What makes you think that it was someone involved in the TINI group? I think it can be someone not involved with this. Pearl just says it was a fan.

Because Pearl says that this girl waited daily outside Staples for MJ.

If this is true, then she must know Sam Gossen, et al...  as they were all there also.

Anyone got the guts to ask Karen Faye about this?  I would but im scared...  lol..  she gets angry at hoaxsters.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on April 09, 2011, 03:01:08 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
One thing puzzles me, how did her friend know about the song? If she gave the 3 sheets of paper to Michael, and Michael wrote the song Best of JOy, did he gave her back the3 sheets? I don't understand. Unless once he supposedly died they found the written sheets some how. I do not have a clue. If anyone does can you please let us know.  I am all mixed up   :lol: Blessings.

As i understood it, is that  the fan gave 3 sheets of paper with notes she wrote for Michael (something like: I love you Michael, Be strong, we believe in you...etc) to the security guy, who was supposed to give all the gifts and letters from fans to Michael. When the lyrics of "Best of Joy" written by Michael on a piece of paper came out, she noticed that he wrote those lyrics on the BACK of the paper she gave him the night of 24th. In the video you can see that the lyrics indeed are written on the BACK of the paper, because the numbers of lines are on the right side and the name of stationary is backwards. And also there is circled number 3 in the corner.  :D
I'm very curious though who is that person? And how much can we trust PearlJr? I don't know any of that, but the story is sure interesting  ;)

L.O.V.E
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 09, 2011, 03:01:48 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
One thing puzzles me, how did her friend know about the song? If she gave the 3 sheets of paper to Michael, and Michael wrote the song Best of JOy, did he gave her back the3 sheets? I don't understand. Unless once he supposedly died they found the written sheets some how. I do not have a clue. If anyone does can you please let us know.  I am all mixed up   :lol: Blessings.

To me it was made as well.
Somehow I do not understand this completely. :?


Thank You angelshadow, I thought I was the only one. Blessings.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Dancer on April 09, 2011, 03:03:54 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "Dancer"

What makes you think that it was someone involved in the TINI group? I think it can be someone not involved with this. Pearl just says it was a fan.

Because Pearl says that this girl waited daily outside Staples for MJ.

If this is true, then she must know Sam Gossen, et al...  as they were all there also.

She (the unknown person) may have known Samantha, but that IMHO does not necessarily mean she is a TINI like Samantha...
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 09, 2011, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
One thing puzzles me, how did her friend know about the song? If she gave the 3 sheets of paper to Michael, and Michael wrote the song Best of JOy, did he gave her back the3 sheets? I don't understand. Unless once he supposedly died they found the written sheets some how. I do not have a clue. If anyone does can you please let us know.  I am all mixed up   :lol: Blessings.

As i understood it, is that  the fan gave 3 sheets of paper with notes she wrote for Michael (something like: I love you Michael, Be strong, we believe in you...etc) to the security guy, who was supposed to give all the gifts and letters from fans to Michael. When the lyrics of "Best of Joy" written by Michael on a piece of paper came out, she noticed that he wrote those lyrics on the BACK of the paper she gave him the night of 24th. In the video you can see that the lyrics indeed are written on the BACK of the paper, because the numbers of lines are on the right side and the name of stationary is backwards. And also there is circled number 3 in the corner.  :D
I'm very curious though who is that person? And how much can we trust PearlJr? I don't know any of that, but the story is sure interesting  ;)

L.O.V.E

I understood all of that kristina4love, that was not my question. I stated how did she get back those papers, how did she see them? Was it in the internet, did someone say here these were your papers take them back. How did she get to see them again???
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 09, 2011, 03:06:42 PM
Quote from: "Dancer"
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "Dancer"

What makes you think that it was someone involved in the TINI group? I think it can be someone not involved with this. Pearl just says it was a fan.

Because Pearl says that this girl waited daily outside Staples for MJ.

If this is true, then she must know Sam Gossen, et al...  as they were all there also.

She (the unknown person) may have known Samantha, but that IMHO does not necessarily mean she is a TINI like Samantha...

Yes, you are right.  Doesnt mean she is TINI.  But does mean she knows them...  which means we should ask Sam Gossen if this rings any bells with her.....
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: mumof3 on April 09, 2011, 03:14:10 PM
So the 3pieces of paper with michaels best of joy lyrics on them have the notes on the other side the messages to Michael I wonder if thus can be proved it's very interesting and I wonder who this person is but other hand she will protect Michael on the other hand he could have written the lyrics of a song he prevously wrote just as a doodle to waste time on the way home
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: mjj4ever777 on April 09, 2011, 03:25:33 PM
I understood all of that kristina4love, that was not my question. I stated how did she get back those papers, how did she see them? Was it in the internet, did someone say here these were your papers take them back. How did she get to see them again???[/quote]

Yes, I would also like to know who gave who, the stationary with the written lyrics on them?? Did Michael give them back to this girl, who then showed them to Pearl? Or did Michael give them to someone to show to Pearl? If these are actually Michael's lyrics and they were written on that girl's paper, how did they get released to the public, unless this was a "planted" clue from Michael himself??

I guess this is all "speculation" until we can somehow verify if ANY of what this girl told pearl is true. For all we know, Michael could have written this song years ago, you never know because we never have anything but "hearsay". I really hope we can get some information to confirm Pearl's story!
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Dancer on April 09, 2011, 03:29:29 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"

I understood all of that kristina4love, that was not my question. I stated how did she get back those papers, how did she see them? Was it in the internet, did someone say here these were your papers take them back. How did she get to see them again???
They were shown on the internet.
See this link:
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jac ... note-photo (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jackson/images/18518361/title/best-joy-handwritten-note-photo)
or this one:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showt ... ost3137077 (http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php/98923-Best-of-Joy-Official-Discussion-Thread?p=3137077&viewfull=1#post3137077)
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: mumof3 on April 09, 2011, 03:39:08 PM
You can see the paper says things to do today but you can't see any other writing on the other side   It's very interesting
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 09, 2011, 03:42:42 PM
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2959/bestofyouj.jpg)
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: mumof3 on April 09, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
Maybe it's my eyes but I think I can see writing on the other side  but what happened to the other 2 sheets and where were they found
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on April 09, 2011, 04:12:12 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
One thing puzzles me, how did her friend know about the song? If she gave the 3 sheets of paper to Michael, and Michael wrote the song Best of JOy, did he gave her back the3 sheets? I don't understand. Unless once he supposedly died they found the written sheets some how. I do not have a clue. If anyone does can you please let us know.  I am all mixed up   :lol: Blessings.

As i understood it, is that  the fan gave 3 sheets of paper with notes she wrote for Michael (something like: I love you Michael, Be strong, we believe in you...etc) to the security guy, who was supposed to give all the gifts and letters from fans to Michael. When the lyrics of "Best of Joy" written by Michael on a piece of paper came out, she noticed that he wrote those lyrics on the BACK of the paper she gave him the night of 24th. In the video you can see that the lyrics indeed are written on the BACK of the paper, because the numbers of lines are on the right side and the name of stationary is backwards. And also there is circled number 3 in the corner.  :D
I'm very curious though who is that person? And how much can we trust PearlJr? I don't know any of that, but the story is sure interesting  ;)

L.O.V.E

I understood all of that kristina4love, that was not my question. I stated how did she get back those papers, how did she see them? Was it in the internet, did someone say here these were your papers take them back. How did she get to see them again???

I'm sorry that i didn't understand your question :oops:  The actual question you are asking is bothering me too!
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on April 09, 2011, 04:14:20 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2959/bestofyouj.jpg)

What's with the "We are Forever II II II", is it 11.11.11?
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on April 09, 2011, 04:16:30 PM
Quote from: "Dancer"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"

I understood all of that kristina4love, that was not my question. I stated how did she get back those papers, how did she see them? Was it in the internet, did someone say here these were your papers take them back. How did she get to see them again???
They were shown on the internet.
See this link:
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jac ... note-photo (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jackson/images/18518361/title/best-joy-handwritten-note-photo)
or this one:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showt ... ost3137077 (http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php/98923-Best-of-Joy-Official-Discussion-Thread?p=3137077&viewfull=1#post3137077)

And also here http://twitpic.com/photos/SeeingClues?page=2 (http://twitpic.com/photos/SeeingClues?page=2). How can we find out who was the FIRST one to upload it?
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: finfin on April 09, 2011, 04:43:38 PM
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "Dancer"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"

I understood all of that kristina4love, that was not my question. I stated how did she get back those papers, how did she see them? Was it in the internet, did someone say here these were your papers take them back. How did she get to see them again???
They were shown on the internet.
See this link:
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jac ... note-photo (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jackson/images/18518361/title/best-joy-handwritten-note-photo)
or this one:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showt ... ost3137077 (http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php/98923-Best-of-Joy-Official-Discussion-Thread?p=3137077&viewfull=1#post3137077)

And also here http://twitpic.com/photos/SeeingClues?page=2 (http://twitpic.com/photos/SeeingClues?page=2). How can we find out who was the FIRST one to upload it?
@seeingclues is a member on this forum, I have sent a message on twitter by dm to please come and help  :D
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on April 09, 2011, 04:52:42 PM
Quote from: "finfin"
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "Dancer"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"

I understood all of that kristina4love, that was not my question. I stated how did she get back those papers, how did she see them? Was it in the internet, did someone say here these were your papers take them back. How did she get to see them again???
They were shown on the internet.
See this link:
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jac ... note-photo (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jackson/images/18518361/title/best-joy-handwritten-note-photo)
or this one:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showt ... ost3137077 (http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php/98923-Best-of-Joy-Official-Discussion-Thread?p=3137077&viewfull=1#post3137077)

And also here http://twitpic.com/photos/SeeingClues?page=2 (http://twitpic.com/photos/SeeingClues?page=2). How can we find out who was the FIRST one to upload it?
@seeingclues is a member on this forum, I have sent a message on twitter by dm to please come and help  :D

That's great! Thank you finfin! :)
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 09, 2011, 05:01:01 PM

Seriously? A huge MJ fan is giving Mike a used 'To Do' notebook as a gift with only 3 empty pages left? Why would she give him that? Don't fans give flowers and stuff to their idol? And even IF she gave that to him, there are millions of those notebooks in the world, I have one too, exactly the same. Sorry, but with more promotion for her e-book and DVD than actual 'clues', it seems like she is only making things up just to put a new promo-video up. This is not a clue, there is no back-up for it and it sounds like BS.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: mumof3 on April 09, 2011, 05:05:14 PM
I suppose we would only have some sort of answer if we could see what was written on the other side of the paper
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 09, 2011, 05:15:24 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"
I suppose we would only have some sort of answer if we could see what was written on the other side of the paper

I must be blind as i cant see anything on the other side.

What do you see?  xx
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: voiceforthesilent on April 09, 2011, 05:19:44 PM
We need to be patient and let the evidence unfold. The truth will prevail - it always does. And we will know if that is true because lies always come to the surface with time.

Let's not be too quick to judge others intent. We don't know one way or the other yet what the truth is. Don't make up your mind before viewing all the facts. Blessings.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Dancer on April 09, 2011, 05:25:54 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"

Seriously? A huge MJ fan is giving Mike a used 'To Do' notebook as a gift with only 3 empty pages left? Why would she give him that? Don't fans give flowers and stuff to their idol? And even IF she gave that to him, there are millions of those notebooks in the world, I have one too, exactly the same. Sorry, but with more promotion for her e-book and DVD than actual 'clues', it seems like she is only making things up just to put a new promo-video up. This is not a clue, there is no back-up for it and it sounds like BS.
She did not say she gave him a notebook with 3 empty pages left. She said she gave him a letter - 3 pieces of paper with something written on it for Michael.
The lyrics then were written on the backside.
I agree with voiceforthesolent - we shouldn't judge too quick. I still find this video very interesting, and I still think Pearl has some good intentions, at the moment I don't see why she would lie.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 09, 2011, 05:29:59 PM
But i cant see anything written on the other side????
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Dancer on April 09, 2011, 05:33:08 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
But i cant see anything written on the other side????
Maybe they erased the writing of the fan for privacy reasons? Might be possible...
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on April 09, 2011, 05:35:54 PM
WTH with the secrecy of who the person was that gave MJ the note paper? If your gonna spill some of the info why not go all the way and spill who it was that gave the paper to him? Oh I know, it is to keep people curious with mysterious clues, lmao. Oh and this person is a God fearing person so that means they wouldn't lie to her? Lmao.  8-)  MJ is God fearing and he has lied his ass off throughout his career and especially now with the death hoax. Everyone lies.  8-) This is a she Pearl met back in 2005?  :? Some of you are to trusting in Pearl and her motives. viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17942&start=25#p318427 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17942&start=25#p318427)

Who is really buying her e-book and dvd aka pay-per-view? Is it mostly non-believers or hoaxers? The info she is selling is already found and documented here and other places for FREE. Why should anybody have to pay for something that is FREE?

The family inviting her to functions means very little. The family (Mother Katherine) is also in partnership with Howard Mann and he is a sleaze ball. I do have a theory though why the partnership is happening but that is another topic.

Samantha just uploaded this recently. So does that mean she still believes MJ was murdered? See this thread.

Unseen Kenny Ortega Footage at TII Premier.
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=18657 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=18657)

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Uploaded by SoulCatharsis74 on Nov 29, 2010

Interview at LAX courthouse druing Conrad Murray's arraignment. My fight for Justice and truth.
Despite this interview being made by a hoaxer, which I didn't know at the time, and smart editing not including my on camera corrections about one date, this is what I have to say.
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Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: PureLove on April 09, 2011, 05:42:14 PM
I'm tired of seeing her making her own commercial everytime. If you name yourself a believer then share what your information is, do not sell it. The info she gives can be interesting but still the way she kinda says "if you want to learn more, pay me and buy my book" doesn't sound nice to me.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: PureLove on April 09, 2011, 05:43:32 PM
Quote from: "Dancer"
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
But i cant see anything written on the other side????
Maybe they erased the writing of the fan for privacy reasons? Might be possible...

same here, i can't see anything on the other side.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: PureLove on April 09, 2011, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2959/bestofyouj.jpg)

What's with the "We are Forever II II II", is it 11.11.11?

I was thinking about that too. It looks like a 11.11.11 to me too.  :shock: That would be an interesting date to Bam.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 09, 2011, 08:09:58 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2959/bestofyouj.jpg)

What's with the "We are Forever II II II", is it 11.11.11?

I was thinking about that too. It looks like a 11.11.11 to me too.  :shock: That would be an interesting date to Bam.


That would be 11 november 2011 Not July anymore.. I think too many people are here to make money. If you really want to help us with clues it should be done with the good will, not we have to pay . There is nothing written in the back of the paper, That type of stationary can be purchased anywhere in the world, and on top of that pearjr could have found it in the internet, and lied about it, who knows, it can go both ways. We shall wait and see.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 09, 2011, 08:10:37 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2959/bestofyouj.jpg)

What's with the "We are Forever II II II", is it 11.11.11?

I was thinking about that too. It looks like a 11.11.11 to me too.  :shock: That would be an interesting date to Bam.


That would be 11 november 2011 Not July anymore.. I think too many people are here to make money. If you really want to help us with clues it should be done with the good will, not we have to pay . There is nothing written in the back of the paper, That type of stationary can be purchased anywhere in the world, and on top of that pearjr could have found it in the internet, and lied about it, who knows, it can go both ways. We shall wait and see.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Starchild on April 09, 2011, 08:53:27 PM
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
That would be 11 november 2011 Not July anymore.. I think too many people are here to make money. If you really want to help us with clues it should be done with the good will, not we have to pay . There is nothing written in the back of the paper, That type of stationary can be purchased anywhere in the world, and on top of that pearjr could have found it in the internet, and lied about it, who knows, it can go both ways. We shall wait and see.
I believe PearlJr states in the YT video above that the fan claimed she saw the three pages that she’d given to MJ in the form of an image on, or somewhere within, the Michael album.  (I didn’t purchase the Michael album, so I have not seen the note pages).

But again, although the lyrics look like MJ's handwriting, how do we know for sure beyond presumption?  (It definitely doesn't sound like MJ's voice on the "Best of Joy" YT video I watched/listened to.)

Regarding PearlJr’s DVD, I was one who bought it when it first came out.  I believe her target audience is curious non-believers who have just come in contact with the hoax theory and aren’t yet so curious that they want to do a lot of Internet research.  I first learned about an alleged hoax in late January and found PearlJr’s DVD to be a nice compilation of basic hoax info that I could watch in 80 minutes.  For me, it served its purpose and was thereby worth the investment.

And 11-11-11 is definitely an unusual and notable date.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: LuvmyMikey on April 09, 2011, 09:00:26 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/2959/bestofyouj.jpg)

I think they're probably what are called "dittoes," which some people use to signify "repeat what's above or what comes before."  So he was indicating to repeat "We are Forever," probably three times. That's what seems most logical to me, anyway. :)
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on April 09, 2011, 09:18:26 PM
Quote from: "finfin"
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "Dancer"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"

I understood all of that kristina4love, that was not my question. I stated how did she get back those papers, how did she see them? Was it in the internet, did someone say here these were your papers take them back. How did she get to see them again???
They were shown on the internet.
See this link:
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jac ... note-photo (http://www.fanpop.com/spots/michael-jackson/images/18518361/title/best-joy-handwritten-note-photo)
or this one:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showt ... ost3137077 (http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php/98923-Best-of-Joy-Official-Discussion-Thread?p=3137077&viewfull=1#post3137077)

And also here http://twitpic.com/photos/SeeingClues?page=2 (http://twitpic.com/photos/SeeingClues?page=2). How can we find out who was the FIRST one to upload it?


@seeingclues is a member on this forum, I have sent a message on twitter by dm to please come and help  :D

According to the upload dates from each link provided, SeeingClues was first.

@SeeingClues December 15, 2010
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 09, 2011, 10:06:34 PM
Quote from: "LuvmyMikey"
I think they're probably what are called "dittoes," which some people use to signify "repeat what's above or what comes before."  So he was indicating to repeat "We are Forever," probably three times. That's what seems most logical to me, anyway. :)

I agree.  They are either "repeat dittos", or they may be "exclamation marks".

I really do not think they represent 11.11.11
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Lovely One on April 09, 2011, 10:45:52 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "LuvmyMikey"
I think they're probably what are called "dittoes," which some people use to signify "repeat what's above or what comes before."  So he was indicating to repeat "We are Forever," probably three times. That's what seems most logical to me, anyway. :)

I agree.  They are either "repeat dittos", or they may be "exclamation marks".

I really do not think they represent 11.11.11

Yep, I agree. I think I remember learning that in music class. It usually means to repeat.
I would rather it mean November 11th 2011, BAM though!  ;)
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Liberian Girl Heehee on April 09, 2011, 11:15:29 PM
I don't see anything on the other side either.  Pearl is sure reaching lately.  It does bother me that she is selling the hoax, but I guess I would rather she sell the hoax than the death.  Isn't Samantha the Queen of Photoshop?  Do we really believe anything she has to say?
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: willddoMJ on April 09, 2011, 11:40:51 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"

Seriously? A huge MJ fan is giving Mike a used 'To Do' notebook as a gift with only 3 empty pages left? Why would she give him that? Don't fans give flowers and stuff to their idol? And even IF she gave that to him, there are millions of those notebooks in the world, I have one too, exactly the same. Sorry, but with more promotion for her e-book and DVD than actual 'clues', it seems like she is only making things up just to put a new promo-video up. This is not a clue, there is no back-up for it and it sounds like BS.

agreed, promoting her products more the anything
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 10, 2011, 04:57:09 AM
There is no writing on the other side of the note.  Therefore this makes Pearl's story absolutely B.S.

What a silly woman...   she really think she can just make up clues and everyone would believe her?

She said that the woman gave MJ notes...   and that MJ wrote on the back of them.  Well, there is no writing on the other side.

And as Souza said...  why would someone give MJ three bits of note paper as a gift??

Pure B.S.

(Note to Pearl...   the hoax community is way past "secret sources".  If someone has a true and plausable story to tell, they do not hide away behind anonymity.  I know you read these forums and you should feel ashamed that you lie and trick people like this.)
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 10, 2011, 05:13:00 AM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
There is no writing on the other side of the note.  Therefore this makes Pearl's story absolutely B.S.

What a silly woman...   she really think she can just make up clues and everyone would believe her?

She said that the woman gave MJ notes...   and that MJ wrote on the back of them.  Well, there is no writing on the other side.

And as Souza said...  why would someone give MJ three bits of note paper as a gift??

Pure B.S.

(Note to Pearl...   the hoax community is way past "secret sources".  If someone has a true and plausable story to tell, they do not hide away behind anonymity.  I know you read these forums and you should feel ashamed that you lie and trick people like this.)

I AGREE WITH YOU ALL THE WAY..
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: maninthemoon on April 10, 2011, 10:13:24 AM
I don't think the "II II II" has anything to do with any kind of date. Unless you're talking about the release date for "Skyrim", haha. :lol:

As for me being in a music class or whatsoever you call it (that's direct translation from finnish), - we had to "recognize" some song rhythms and we used "II" and "I" to do it. Sometimes we got "II II II" or whatever. I think that's sorta it? Dunno though.

Whatever it is, it has nothing to do with the date.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Dancer on April 10, 2011, 03:14:51 PM
If you read the comments under the youtube video, you see that Pearl explains why there is no writing on the flip side of the paper.

I know many of you don't like Pearl and won't believe anything she says. So you probably won't believe this explanation, too. But I really think we should not judge too fast.
She sells a dvd, yes. She already explained in a previous video that she spends this money to investigate further. (I know some of you won't believe that, too.) But remember, even the Jackson family members sell books and give interviews and get paid. So I don't get why so many people judge Pearl.
I still think she has some good intentions. And call me naive, but somehow I like her. She may have said some things that have been strange, but why judge everything she does or says?
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Miss.Peppers on April 10, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
Quote from: "Dancer"


I know many of you don't like Pearl and won't believe anything she says. So you probably won't believe this explanation, too. But I really think we should not judge too fast.

It's the clue that doesnt add up.  Its not personal to Pearl...   her clues and evidence are not sound.  
Ive seen her explanations on youtube and im not believing them.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: mumof3 on April 10, 2011, 05:54:38 PM
What was pearls explanation on no writing on the other side of the paper I didn't look at the comments  I did ask her where the lyrics were found and she has not replied to me
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: mumof3 on April 10, 2011, 06:55:25 PM
I have seen her reason now there was 3 sheets of paper she wrote on 2 and third one is the one with lyrics on the blank one that she left blank so Michael could write noted to organise himself it's bit convenient  that there is no real proof sadly
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on April 11, 2011, 01:00:34 AM
I have not read most of the pages here (sorry) so someone may have already said these things but overall, I find Pearl Jr. to be helpful.  She surmises in a nice neat package the thousands of pages we have covering the hoax so for those who are curious, but will not study the way we do, they at least get some poignant aspects of the hoax to consider in a single DVD or downloadable book.

I have to remember that Pearl was helpful to Michael during the trial as well and I appreciate this.  In Pearl's emovie book she says how she ended up getting an office set-up for her that's in the same place as one of Michael's companies and she always found that odd along with a few other coincidences.  She makes the statement that she felt  "manuvered" to write the book.  

What if she's in Michael's employ?  After all, what mother, what father, what family would allow a woman (Pearl) to be in their midst (Jacksons) knowing that she is very publicly spreading the message that Michael is not dead.  What sticks out in my mind is Mrs. Jackson attending the tribute that Pearl helped to organize last year, after Pearl's emovie book came out.    How could the family, especially Mrs. Jackson, tolerate Pearl if there wasn't an agreement between them.  


BEST OF JOY: Does anyone believe that Michael is singing that song?  It sounds like he penned it because the lyrics are amazing and the music is gorgeous, but, imo, Michael is not singing the song on the Michael album.   I wonder why this is so because I am   convinced he is not singing.


I begin to question Pearl when she does things like this with those 3 sheets of paper.   The other time was that video in black and white and Michael in a hoodie at a door.  Or remember the Mcdonald's ad with Cup of Joe or Joseph?  that was weird.  The billboard did exist but Pearl used it as a proof of the hoax.  Why would Pearl add things that she can't prove in any way?  I think it's all part of the illusion and she may be asked to throw in some of these "oddities".  

Is our attention on the song to focus on those 3 pieces of paper or is there something about the song itself that we should be paying attention to?  Maybe MJ is just saying he loves us, his fans.  Maybe he is thanking us and saying we bring him joy for the work we are doing on his behalf.  IDK,  but it is certainly interesting that this song -- a song he does not sing on the album-- is coming up now.    

Please forgive me if some of this has already said in other posts...  If so, I agree with you!
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Im_convincedmjalive on April 11, 2011, 01:52:37 AM
Quote
Luke 6:45 (King James Version)
45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
http://www.blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/Thanksgiving.html (http://www.blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/Thanksgiving.html)

http://www.blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/Tiger.html (http://www.blackwomenneedlovetoo.com/Tiger.html)

Just who is the real racist? These links take you to videos of Pearl and her true self. Notice how she feels somehow betrayed by Tiger as if he was supposed to know she would be pissed because of him not having black women around him at any given time. What makes her think he should cater to her? What makes her think that just because he doesn't supposedly have public pictures or the media doesn't show him around black women (according to Pearl) that it means he doesn't in reality have some?  :?:

Golf is mostly a white man's sport. It caters to mostly white fans and Tiger is a rare thing in that world being a black man. How in the world Pearl turned his supposed lack of black women during his public apology into a personal issue is beyond me.

She also goes into why she follows Michael.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: underthemoon on April 11, 2011, 02:41:31 AM
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"


BEST OF JOY]


Hello SoldierofLove,
i had feel the same confusion when i heard the Song . For me there are two men singing ! A Duett, a dialog.
It would make sence. They speak together. Everyone has his part and some they are singing together.
We are at the double theory again.
Different voices and a little bit different accent. In single songs ot the last years not so clear , but here together...close your eyes and listen !

One begins untill I am forever.

Then the other :
I am the one who came when you fell down.
I was the only one around ( the only one)
When things would hurt you

The first : I am forever

The second Wasn't it i who said that you were free
When living seemed ( seemed is written in the lyrics of the CD, but they sing seemes !) so hard to be
When things would hurt you

First
 I am forever

Both
We are forever

And so on....the both sing We need each other.
It makes absolutly sence ! Please prove and hear it again.
With Love <3
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: Galaxy on April 11, 2011, 09:28:41 AM
I like Pearl and her site blackwomenneedlovetoo.com. She needs to stick with that site more and less on the hoax. By the way Pearl, get a better web designer and better music for your Youtube videos. :D
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: MashMike on April 11, 2011, 01:49:19 PM
Though i like Pearl cause she has helped MJ a lot in 2005 but while whatching the video i got the impression that she was just promoting her DVD, nothing more
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 11, 2011, 03:20:59 PM
Quote from: "mumof3"
I have seen her reason now there was 3 sheets of paper she wrote on 2 and third one is the one with lyrics on the blank one that she left blank so Michael could write noted to organise himself it's bit convenient  that there is no real proof sadly

Aha, now that sounds convincing! **NOT**
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: mumof3 on April 11, 2011, 04:24:13 PM
I know  I am confused by it
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: scorpionchik on April 11, 2011, 05:12:02 PM
I  don't  get where Pearl sees clue here? Let's assume woman really exchanged papers with Michael where he wrote words of"Best of Joy" that was later released. So what? Machael has had and still has maybe hundreds of written & recorded but unreleased songs. Same as other songs on Michael album; they were written and recorded but not released. Now, after his "death", Sony releases them. I don't know how they chose songs to be released though.
 Just because that song was later released, does not make it clue. If the letter had a note  "this song will be released in a while", or something like that, then I would see a clue.
BTW, I do see writing on the back of the paper. Starting from the 4th row and below, if you look carefully at the blank part you can see writing.  Or maybe I have a projector instead of eyes.  :lol:
 As for II II II,  can this be a clue 1+1+1+1+1+1=6= Best of Joy song is the 6th song on the "Michael" album? Can someone confirm? Or wait for November 11, 2011 and see.
 But I don't think MJ would go that deep not knowing if fan will get it or keep the letter, look for clues.
Title: Re: "Michael's" "Best of Joy" Lyrics' Clue & more! Pearljr
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on April 13, 2011, 12:06:56 AM
Quote from: "underthemoon"
Quote from: "SoldierofLOVE"


BEST OF JOY]


Hello SoldierofLove,
i had feel the same confusion when i heard the Song . For me there are two men singing ! A Duett, a dialog.
It would make sence. They speak together. Everyone has his part and some they are singing together.
We are at the double theory again.
Different voices and a little bit different accent. In single songs ot the last years not so clear , but here together...close your eyes and listen !

One begins untill I am forever.

Then the other :
I am the one who came when you fell down.
I was the only one around ( the only one)
When things would hurt you

The first : I am forever

The second Wasn't it i who said that you were free
When living seemed ( seemed is written in the lyrics of the CD, but they sing seemes !) so hard to be
When things would hurt you

First
 I am forever

Both
We are forever

And so on....the both sing We need each other.
It makes absolutly sence ! Please prove and hear it again.
With Love <3


hmmm.  that's interesting, underthemoon.  i hadn't thought that there was more than one voice.   i'm definitely going to listen to it again.  thanks for your perspective.  you could be right.
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