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Title: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: finfin on April 29, 2011, 12:35:17 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/29/michael-j ... t-witness/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/29/michael-jackson-pig-propofol-dr-conrad-murray-manslaughter-trial-ingested-vet-expert-witness/)

 Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild14 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  



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Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyers want to use a piglet to prove that Propofol can be ingested.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/04/29/0429-pig-mj-bn.jpg)



During today's court hearing, Judge Michael Pastor referenced attorney Michael Flanagan's suggestion to give a pig Propofol.  Flanagan said he intended to use a vet as an expert witness -- presumably to discuss the ingestion of Propofol.

One of the defense's theories is that Michael Jackson fatally ingested Propofol while Dr. Murray was out of the bedroom.

The defense is also floating a theory -- that Michael may have fatally injected himself while Murray stepped out.



See also
Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals To Show Warning Signs
Dr. Murray Trial -- D.A. Wants MJ Rehearsal Footage
Dr. Murray to Cops: Where's the Surveillance Video?
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: GINAFELICIA on April 29, 2011, 12:37:04 PM
First let me laugh about that photos  :lol:
Now I'll go read the article :twisted:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: GINAFELICIA on April 29, 2011, 12:38:52 PM
OMG what a circus!! That must be a joke. What the poor pig did wrong to receive the propofol treatement?!
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: Andrea on April 29, 2011, 12:40:37 PM
Love Michael's expression!  :lol:   Even the pig is giving a side-eye.

The more ridiculous this case gets, the better.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: hesouttamylife on April 29, 2011, 12:44:22 PM
...In other words :roll:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: Andrea on April 29, 2011, 12:54:09 PM
It won't be long before the defense is claiming that Michael was freebasing propofol...
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: suspicious mind on April 29, 2011, 01:17:42 PM
makes me think of the you can put lipsick on a pig but it's still a pig ruckus in 2008 :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: AnaMarcia on April 29, 2011, 01:34:26 PM
What? A Pig????? :lol:  :lol:
Poor thing!
I think that a dog would be easier to achieve.
How to take this story seriously? :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: angelshadow on April 29, 2011, 01:44:25 PM
That's ridiculous!
How can this prove to be the basis of a pig?
I am thinking about the pig mask in October 2009, Halloween (Liz Taylor and Michael's children) :?
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: GINAFELICIA on April 29, 2011, 01:51:56 PM
That pig's face reminds me of somebody......I don't want to be mean but it looks a little like Arnie....sorry doc
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 29, 2011, 02:00:35 PM
Michael's picture priceless he has a smirk on his face, saying I gotcha yall... I cannot believe what a circus this trial is becoming. They have to use an innocent pig to see that propofol can be ingested.. What kind of lawyers are they? You can find out so many other ways to see if propofol can be ingested. Leave the poor animal alone.. Bad enough they kill them so humans can eat them. This is becoming so ridiculous it is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on April 29, 2011, 02:05:37 PM
This like a Beverly Hillbillies rerun gone horribly wrong! Why? This trial is already a zoo, why not?!
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: GINAFELICIA on April 29, 2011, 02:06:38 PM
Quote from: "TheMoonIsDancing"
This trial is already a zoo, why not?!

 :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: allforlove on April 29, 2011, 02:08:31 PM
For me the picture itself say's it all. Michael pulling a face as if he thinks, how ridiculous must the trial become before people beginning to understand the trial is just a farce. :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: Lovely One on April 29, 2011, 02:55:17 PM
I am not buying this one. Peta would be there so fast to stop this! There is no way this will fly!

Besides, its a joke anyway. The picture says it all!
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: ~Souza~ on April 29, 2011, 04:14:10 PM
I think they use a pig because pigs seem to be pretty similar to humans in cases like this. Don't know the details though, but I heard that once. Ridiculous story nevertheless.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: GINAFELICIA on April 29, 2011, 04:30:03 PM
well I don't think this pig experiment story will ever happen.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on April 29, 2011, 04:48:17 PM
And again:
"Sponsored by: In Plain Sight"!  8-)
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: GINAFELICIA on April 29, 2011, 04:51:00 PM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
And again:
"Sponsored by: In Plain Sight"!  8-)

yes I saw it 8-)
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on April 29, 2011, 06:47:07 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
I think they use a pig because pigs seem to be pretty similar to humans in cases like this. Don't know the details though, but I heard that once. Ridiculous story nevertheless.

Yes i heard about it too.  :lol:
Ok for a minute lets imagine that this a real court and Michael really did die (takes a lot of imagination). This experiment with pig is not possible to do, i mean how can you compare pig and human? yes organs are very similar, but what about the body condition in general. It's just absurd! In this case lawyers should use some kind of medical research papers or independent doctors points of view, based on patients condition and amount of propofol injected and ingested.
Maybe with that experiment they can prove that Michael injected himself with propofol  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: I'm pretty sure that pig will not be able to inject propofol herself :lol:  :lol:  :lol: Then they are in trouble! Well maybe then they can use monkey or gorilla? At least they have fingers to actually do that! :mrgreen: Wow i'm talking crazy things here, but that's how bizarre the story is!

Michael's expression says it all!  :D I bet he has a lot of fun with making all these ridiculous stories for trial! :lol:

L.O.V.E to all! :D
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: paula-c on April 29, 2011, 07:03:55 PM
I believe that the next step in the defense is to ask permission to Souza to teach the theory of the dog in the trial :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: airieslady on April 29, 2011, 07:17:37 PM
Yes, I worked as medical research tech for pharmaceutical company for twenty yrs, and they did use pigs in some of their studies, as they are closest to humans.  They have used for organ transplants and other things.  But I find it useless to orally blast this pig which has not been in the same environment or "situation" of like rehearsing, singing and dancing for the last evening!!   :lol:   Yes, I would like to see that one!!  :lol:   You know that saying "I beLIEve this... when I see PIGS FLY!"   :?  :shock:  :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: PureLove on April 29, 2011, 08:31:36 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
That's ridiculous!
How can this prove to be the basis of a pig?
I am thinking about the pig mask in October 2009, Halloween (Liz Taylor and Michael's children)

Yes, it made me think the same thing too. Can this be a clue about the pig mask person at the horror night? Pig and Michael in the same picture. The pig mask was Michael? Maybe. I just hope they do not do that experiment on a poor pig or on any animal.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: bec on April 29, 2011, 11:25:58 PM
Doing this to a pig would be a crime. The animal cruelty laws in the US would prevent any attorney from even dreaming of it.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: iamamjbeliever on April 29, 2011, 11:40:09 PM
babe used to be my favorite movie  :D btw, michael was chubby in that pic
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: GINAFELICIA on April 30, 2011, 01:04:17 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "angelshadow"
That's ridiculous!
How can this prove to be the basis of a pig?
I am thinking about the pig mask in October 2009, Halloween (Liz Taylor and Michael's children)

Yes, it made me think the same thing too. Can this be a clue about the pig mask person at the horror night? Pig and Michael in the same picture. The pig mask was Michael? Maybe. I just hope they do not do that experiment on a poor pig or on any animal.


right!!
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: 2good2btrue on April 30, 2011, 01:48:23 AM
Now we can safely add a pig to the courtroom circus.. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: _Anna_ on April 30, 2011, 01:55:35 AM
As someone already said, the courtroom stuffed with animals is found in other court cases too. So it's not only this case.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: bec on April 30, 2011, 02:05:19 AM
Oh well, MJ is dead then.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 30, 2011, 03:34:37 AM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "angelshadow"
That's ridiculous!
How can this prove to be the basis of a pig?
I am thinking about the pig mask in October 2009, Halloween (Liz Taylor and Michael's children)

Yes, it made me think the same thing too. Can this be a clue about the pig mask person at the horror night? Pig and Michael in the same picture. The pig mask was Michael? Maybe. I just hope they do not do that experiment on a poor pig or on any animal.


It is true I forgot about that day.. yes indeed..  :lol:
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: Yulia on April 30, 2011, 04:55:33 AM
Quote from: "bec"
Oh well, MJ is dead then.


It doesn't prove this. The point is.... don't you agree that we sould not take things out of context and keep as realistic as we can regarding everything? In order to have true and real conclusions. Taking them out of context and make them fit our "I want" doesn't mean it's the reality.  It has been discussed that this is not the first time and the first person who has toys in the courtroom, people here debated this time ago and we had also photos from other people's trails where as well we saw toys.
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: msteetee34 on April 30, 2011, 06:31:53 AM
Oh wow test propofol on a pig?  That just seem ridiculous to me.  Since when have pigs been used for testing anything?  I thought it was always rats.lol  This seem like hog wash to me.  Please!!!!!
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: suspicious mind on April 30, 2011, 08:37:11 AM
off topic but i can't find the thread with arnie's last rant. he mentioned injecting the propofol into the musles. so i was curious if it could even be done. you guys who are good at this want to take a look and see what you can find in this?

http://www.propofol-injection.com/faq.html (http://www.propofol-injection.com/faq.html)
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on April 30, 2011, 09:45:34 AM
Quote from: "Yulia"
Quote from: "bec"
Oh well, MJ is dead then.


It doesn't prove this. The point is.... don't you agree that we sould not take things out of context and keep as realistic as we can regarding everything? In order to have true and real conclusions. Taking them out of context and make them fit our "I want" doesn't mean it's the reality.  It has been discussed that this is not the first time and the first person who has toys in the courtroom, people here debated this time ago and we had also photos from other people's trails where as well we saw toys.

Can somebody provide me a link to this thread? Please. I would like to read about it. :)

L.O.V.E
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: bec on April 30, 2011, 10:26:37 AM
Quote from: "Yulia"
Quote from: "bec"
Oh well, MJ is dead then.


It doesn't prove this. The point is.... don't you agree that we sould not take things out of context and keep as realistic as we can regarding everything? In order to have true and real conclusions. Taking them out of context and make them fit our "I want" doesn't mean it's the reality.  It has been discussed that this is not the first time and the first person who has toys in the courtroom, people here debated this time ago and we had also photos from other people's trails where as well we saw toys.

Don't you think if those toys all showed up *just* for Murray's hearings and then disappeared again when Murray exited that it would be really super obvious to everyone working at the courthouse that something was up?
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: finfin on April 30, 2011, 10:41:46 AM
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "Yulia"
Quote from: "bec"
Oh well, MJ is dead then.


It doesn't prove this. The point is.... don't you agree that we sould not take things out of context and keep as realistic as we can regarding everything? In order to have true and real conclusions. Taking them out of context and make them fit our "I want" doesn't mean it's the reality.  It has been discussed that this is not the first time and the first person who has toys in the courtroom, people here debated this time ago and we had also photos from other people's trails where as well we saw toys.

Can somebody provide me a link to this thread? Please. I would like to read about it. :)

L.O.V.E
@Kristina4LOVE
As far as I remember there wasn't a link, one of the forum members says they saw on the TV toys in another courtroom, but of course I may be wrong.
and @Yulia I don't recall any photos showing toys in any trials, we had video of other trials without toys, sorry to disagree with you, but please can you show the link. This is actually important to the hoax imo because this is something we saw with our own eyes
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: Integrity on May 01, 2011, 07:35:40 PM
THIS IS A HOAX AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY moonwalk_/
MICHAEL IS A GENIUS AND I KNOW HE IS BEHIND THIS 100% mj_bad/
NONE OF THIS IS REAL AND IT IS ALL AN ILLUSION :mrgreen:
IT IS GETTING CLOSER THE END SO LETS ALL HANG IN THERE FOR IT HAS BEEN A LONG RIDE BUT WE ARE ABOUT TO GET OFF THE TRAIN. party/
I SEND ALL OF YOU PEACE AND LOVE bearhug
Title: Re: Dr. Murray's Lawyer Goes Hog Wild
Post by: 2good2btrue on May 01, 2011, 10:31:29 PM
May not be anything, but the talk about a pig reminds me of the swine flu..

I read that MJ was really afraid of catching the disease and went to great lengths to prevent catching it.  

Swine flu: Michael Jackson 'worried about flying to Britain'

Michael Jackson is refusing to fly to Britain because he is worried about catching swine flu, it has been claimed.
7:02AM BST 01 May 2009 Comment
The singer, who has worn face masks for years, was planning to come to this country in the next few weeks to find a suitable temporary home where he could stay while on tour.

A number of properties, include a couple in Biggin Hill, were being lined up for him to inspect.

But the 50-year-old father of three has delayed his visit until fears surrounding the swine flu - H1N1 virus - subside, according to the Daily Express.

A source told the paper: "Michael wanted to come over for viewings in the next few weeks because he wants to make sure the property is just right - after all he will be renting it from now until February next year.

"But that is off for the time being. We are going to send him videos. Michael doesn't want to travel because of the worry surrounding the flu outbreak."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine ... itain.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/5255175/Swine-flu-Michael-Jackson-worried-about-flying-to-Britain.html)
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