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Title: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: finfin on April 30, 2011, 06:22:33 PM
Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Shock dossier could clear star's doc


http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/_n ... pants.html (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/_news/1287475/Michael-Jackson-had-cocaine-in-his-pants.html)

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Tragic.... superstar Michael Jackson
Kevin Mazur/WireImage.com
  Exclusive by James Desborough, US Editor April 30, 2011
A SECRET police file which reveals Michael Jackson had cocaine in his UNDERPANTS could mean the superstar's doctor Conrad Murray walks free.


Murray, accused of involuntary manslaughter, believes the bombshell dossier will convince the jury that the singer was hooked on drugs and responsible for his own death.


The police reports - from a child molestation investigation in 2003 - also reveal officers found 500 BOTTLES of prescription medication at his Neverland ranch.

 
Bombshell report... Dr Conrad Murray Reuters/David McNew
 
The documents will play a key part in defending Murray, who allegedly gave the singer a lethal jab of the sedative Propofol.



Last night a source close to the case said: "These dockets are vital to Murray's defence. They help show the jury the depth of MJ's drug issues and how he may have never stood a chance of saving him."


The News of the World can reveal toxicologists reported traces of cocaine, along with a cocktail of other drugs, were found in two pairs of Jacko's Calvin Klein briefs when Neverland was raided eight years ago.


It is not known how they got there. He may have dropped it on his undies as he fought to get high - although some heavy users are even known to take drugs in suppository form. The Santa Barbara County Sheriff documents also reveal traces of painkiller Demerol, sleeping aid Promethazine, powerful headache drug Normeperidine and morphine substitute Meperidine were discovered in Jacko's pants. Tiny amounts of blood were also found - believed to be the result of a Demerol jab in his groin.


Cops found more than 500 bottles of drugs prescribed in the names of the star, staff at the Californian ranch - and even under aliases. Sedatives and anxiety drugs Percocet and Xanax under other patients' names were discovered in safes, cabinets, shoes, wardrobes, the playroom and toilet.

 
Cocaine find... cops discovered the drug in Michael Jackson's Calvin Klein undies
Murray's lawyers plan to call dozens of medics who treated Jacko over the last decade when the trial starts on May 9.


His team have also filed paperwork that the king of pop upped his drug intake during his final days as he rehearsed for the This Is It concerts in London. He even DRANK, mixed with orange juice, the powerful intravenous sedative Propofol - the drug which eventually killed him.


The source explained: "Jackson drinking Propofol sounds wild, but it is part of Murray's strategy to depict how Michael was an extraordinary addict. He says that bottles of the milk - as Michael referred to it - went missing during his treatment and he suspects that Michael would tip the fluid into his drinks to try and get high. The doctor claims that Michael took the measure after he refused to hook him up to an IV to administer it."


Murray's team hope the jury will decide Jacko may have jabbed himself with Propofol or overdosed on prescription pills prompting his cardiac arrest in June 2009. Defence lawyers want Sergeant Steve Robel, who led the Neverland investigation, to discuss his findings.

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Prescription drugs... seized from Jacko's Neverland ranch during a 2003 child molestation investigation
Excerpts from his report say Michael Laperruque, Jacko's former bodyguard, revealed the star was self-injecting when doctors were trying to get him off Demerol.


He was also popping up to 40 Xanax pills a night, would be driven by his bouncer to medics to get his hits, was smoking marijuana and a heavy drinker. Beverly Hills pharmacist Dr Raj Kumar said: "Jackson was a serial drug addict. There was no way for Murray to control this patient. He could easily argue he had no idea he was taking such large volumes of drugs."


Prosecutors want the judge to ban claims of Jacko's drug dependency. But last night our source said: "It creates an element of doubt as to Murray's guilt."
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: heartphantom on April 30, 2011, 06:31:04 PM
:shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: PureLove on April 30, 2011, 07:08:16 PM
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He was also popping up to 40 Xanax pills a night, would be driven by his bouncer to medics to get his hits, was smoking marijuana and a heavy drinker. Beverly Hills pharmacist Dr Raj Kumar said: "Jackson was a serial drug addict. There was no way for Murray to control this patient. He could easily argue he had no idea he was taking such large volumes of drugs."

 :lol: 40 Xanax is enough to stop you breathing and kill you. What a circus this is. :lol:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on April 30, 2011, 07:10:19 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
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He was also popping up to 40 Xanax pills a night, would be driven by his bouncer to medics to get his hits, was smoking marijuana and a heavy drinker. Beverly Hills pharmacist Dr Raj Kumar said: "Jackson was a serial drug addict. There was no way for Murray to control this patient. He could easily argue he had no idea he was taking such large volumes of drugs."

 :lol: 40 Xanax is enough to stop you breathing and kill you. What a circus this is. :lol:


He would have been dead long time ago.. OMG what else are they going to come out with? Anything to acquit Murray..  :lol:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: hesouttamylife on April 30, 2011, 07:11:27 PM
Now this is pure bullshit :evil:  How are they going to go back to 1993 and some alleged cocaine found in Michael’s jocks.  That was never ever mentioned before so I say bullshit. And if it were, what the hell does that have to do with 2009 :x  Traces of coke could have gotten in his undies any number of ways, if you get my drift.  But just the fact that this is being brought up now in conjunction with this case infuriates me.  I will be glad when this case is heard in court and done with because things have gotten desperate now and out right ridiculous.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: heartphantom on April 30, 2011, 07:16:14 PM
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they going to go back to 1993 and some alleged cocaine found in Michael’s jocks. That was never ever mentioned before so I say bullshit.

Agreed..but...am i missing something? The point is how does this BS fits in this hoax, not if this is a BS (we already know it is). Did Michael plan to have the image of as a serial drug cocaine addict for Murray? Why do Murray's lawyers use this strategy? It' s pure against Michael. Can you please help me understand if you do?
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: bec on April 30, 2011, 07:21:10 PM
This is taken directly from the 2005 trial. No innuendo or metaphor... DIRECT. (just read hesoutamylife said 1993? in any case...)

It was eluded to lab tests done by the prosecution in 2005 that "traces of cocaine" were found on underware in MJs drawer at Neverland. Total BS and a lie... but that's what happened. Back on MJJC has a famous post where he rants about it. I'll see if I can dig it up...

In any case I did the happy dance of joy when I read this headline. Lol  :lol:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: hesouttamylife on April 30, 2011, 07:40:23 PM
:oops: thanks Bec, I meant 2005 during the trial.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on April 30, 2011, 08:04:17 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol: Sorry, can't stop from laughing!!! :lol:
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He was also popping up to 40 Xanax pills a night, would be driven by his bouncer to medics to get his hits, was smoking marijuana and a heavy drinker.

The funniest thing i've ever herd in my live!!!
James Desborough Thank you for your BS article  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: hesouttamylife on April 30, 2011, 08:10:51 PM
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
:lol:  :lol:  :lol: Sorry, can't stop from laughing!!! :lol:
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He was also popping up to 40 Xanax pills a night, would be driven by his bouncer to medics to get his hits, was smoking marijuana and a heavy drinker.

The funniest thing i've ever herd in my live!!!
James Desborough Thank you for your BS article  :mrgreen:

This sounds like something straight out of the deep throat of Diane Dimond.  I hate that bitch
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: suspicious mind on April 30, 2011, 08:14:44 PM
of course those were the ones he wore while he was out voodoo dancing at midnight while he ate live chickens.  thats the ways it's done on mars silly . :evil:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: bec on April 30, 2011, 08:27:58 PM
I just realized why all the Murray team bashing Michael incidents. By making all these crazy accusations, Murray's lawyers are forcing the prosecution to have to vigorously defend Michael's character on Live National Television in front of a public audience of millions of people over a period of several weeks.

That is brilliant.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: suspicious mind on April 30, 2011, 08:49:01 PM
Quote from: "bec"
I just realized why all the Murray team bashing Michael incidents. By making all these crazy accusations, Murray's lawyers are forcing the prosecution to have to vigorously defend Michael's character on Live National Television in front of a public audience of millions of people over a period of several weeks.

That is brilliant.
:D I like it  :D I like it
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: RK on April 30, 2011, 10:27:29 PM
Excellent thinking bec. It is brilliant. The media killed off the KOP's career and legacy with the 05 trial and they will be forced to report this trial and at the same time eat humble pie as they are exposed on national TV doing so. Has anyone heard if dirty dianne dimond will be there? Oh, I hope so.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: GINAFELICIA on May 01, 2011, 12:30:15 AM
Michael asked us to discover the man we never knew.....yet I have the feeling he's throwing out more smoke and mirrors about his real self.

Is this man even real?!
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: Lovely One on May 01, 2011, 02:21:30 AM
I don't know whether to laugh  :lol: or roll my eyes   :roll:  !!

WHY are we even paying attention to this garbage??

I guess I will laugh!  :lol:  :lol:   ;)

@Bec, I like your idea....I hope you are right!!!
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on May 01, 2011, 06:26:53 AM
Michael had "cobra" in his pants, not cocaine - they made a mistake in that article!  :lol:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: heartphantom on May 01, 2011, 06:32:36 AM
I like Bec's idea but i don't believe in it. Michael has been acquited, there is nothing left to prove to the world. And those who didn't want to believe he's innocent , not even after lady Justice called him so, will never believe something else anyway. This trial. even with past evidence, will not change their mind because they just don't want to. Haters will never change their mind just like us who love Michael will never believe he's guilty no matter how hard some would try.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: Grace on May 01, 2011, 06:59:12 AM
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One thing to keep in mind though...

The modern version of Coca-Cola uses “spent” coca leaves. Spent coca leaves are run through a process that extracts the cocaine. But cocaine extraction doesn’t get rid of cocaine alkaloids at a molecular level. Thus, today’s Coke contains trace amounts of cocaine.

And now that you have the secret formula for Coca-Cola, it's time to start making it. If you know anything about making soda at home, great. If not, check out some of the videos on WonderHowTo for some homemade cola guidance.
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-make-coca-cola-secret-formula-revealed-0125123/[/quote]


Quote from: "bec"
I just realized why all the Murray team bashing Michael incidents. By making all these crazy accusations, Murray's lawyers are forcing the prosecution to have to vigorously defend Michael's character on Live National Television in front of a public audience of millions of people over a period of several weeks.

That is brilliant.

 ;)  
Indeed: flip the sides and flip what they (at first sight) should say.
Get the prosecution into whitecleaning Michael's name (the last they would want to do).
Publically.
Broadcasted.
Audible to the entire world.
And then, when it'll be done and justice will have been served to full extent, I see this smile again:

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/04/29/0429-pig-mj-bn.jpg)

And some will have to change their underwear.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: ni-co-le on May 01, 2011, 07:10:39 AM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
Michael had "cobra" in his pants, not cocaine - they made a mistake in that article!  :lol:

yes thats it ,a cobra not cocaine  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on May 01, 2011, 07:15:45 AM
"He was also popping up to 40 Xanax pills a night, would be driven by his bouncer to medics to get his hits, was smoking marijuana and a heavy drinker."
Bob Marley is that you?! :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: heartphantom on May 01, 2011, 07:20:49 AM
I still don't see how trying to prove Michael 's been a drug addict fits  in the hoax.
My point of view-this news brought to public again/ "let's make him look like a cocaine drug addict strategy" has nothing to do with the hoax and it can't be Michael's wish. It's nonsense for me.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: angelshadow on May 01, 2011, 07:46:37 AM
:) Thanks for posting, I can not believe what is written there.
Such crap ... :?   :twisted:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on May 01, 2011, 08:15:33 AM
Bec, you make a good point. Michael had cocaine in his pants, and I am Kate Middleton who married Prince William..  :lol: They have nothing better to do these lawyers. I told you Murray Lawyers got their BARR in a zoo...  :lol:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: maninthemoon on May 01, 2011, 12:31:35 PM
I don't care if he wanted to try out drugs, it's okay for me. Or maybe he was giving it to someone else? But I don't think he used marijuana and was a heavy drinker. Michael was fresh.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: MJonmind on May 01, 2011, 01:52:51 PM
Why all the focus on his underwear? Remember the warehouse of Jackson 5 memorabilia and apparantly lots of MJ soiled underwear saved for what? I realize MJ may have worn and discarded but that's why we have have garbage bags.
Somehow I think this is all planned in advance for the hoax. Goes with the whole trashcans theme, also pees in a cup nonsense. As ususal MJ is a genius. He knows what entertains and tickles the public's imagination.
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
of course those were the ones he wore while he was out voodoo dancing at midnight while he ate live chickens. thats the ways it's done on mars silly . :evil:
:lol:

And I agree with your comment Bec. It's chess and MJ's a master.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: finfin on May 01, 2011, 02:10:05 PM
I didn't copy the pic of the Calvin Klein's because I thought it was disrespectful, but the article complete with this pic can be found on twitter and probably on the web. However, they do look much too big for Michael  :lol:  must be some sort of joke
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: heartphantom on May 01, 2011, 02:15:35 PM
Why do you take all coming from Michael? Isn't this misleading? Maybe it's a new perspective because i wasn't part of your group and my mind is thinking separately. I don't think everything is pointed to the hoax. Especially not the things that destroy Michael's image. You make them look useful and i find it a bit unrealistic.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: FactFinderMJ on May 01, 2011, 02:21:21 PM
If someone can find all the Neverland raid photos you will notice almost full medicine bottles with expired dates. Druggies take their pills before they expire so I do not buy all this crap!
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: hesouttamylife on May 01, 2011, 02:29:10 PM
Some women like coke on a poke(r) :lol:  :lol:

Sorry, the devil made me say it  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on May 01, 2011, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: "heartphantom"
Why do you take all coming from Michael? Isn't this misleading? Maybe it's a new perspective because i wasn't part of your group and my mind is thinking separately. I don't think everything is pointed to the hoax. Especially not the things that destroy Michael's image. You make them look useful and i find it a bit unrealistic.

I'm going to agree with you. Why every single article should be coming from Michael? He can't possibly control all media reporters. I think that this is just another BS article from, well... not very bright person, who either personally doesn't like Michael or has nothing better do to than once again cover Michael's beautiful name with garbage rumors. I really doubt that Michael wants people to read these kind of things about him, he suffered enough from it, why do that again to himself? Doesn't make any sense to me.

L.O.V.E to all! :D
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on May 01, 2011, 03:48:41 PM
Quote from: "heartphantom"
I still don't see how trying to prove Michael 's been a drug addict fits  in the hoax.
My point of view-this news brought to public again/ "let's make him look like a cocaine drug addict strategy" has nothing to do with the hoax and it can't be Michael's wish. It's nonsense for me.
Heartphantom - it might fit only if Michael comes back alive and kicking. Then, all of those people who believed this drug-crap-story will have to move out of this planet.  :)
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: AnaMarcia on May 01, 2011, 04:00:28 PM
Oh no ... cocaine in his underwear I've never seen! Maybe they got the idea of dollars found in his underwear in Brazil!
Ouch ... how much shit we still have to read?
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: PureLove on May 01, 2011, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: "bec"
I just realized why all the Murray team bashing Michael incidents. By making all these crazy accusations, Murray's lawyers are forcing the prosecution to have to vigorously defend Michael's character on Live National Television in front of a public audience of millions of people over a period of several weeks.

That is brilliant.

Aha YEP YEP. :D
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: PureLove on May 01, 2011, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "heartphantom"
Why do you take all coming from Michael? Isn't this misleading? Maybe it's a new perspective because i wasn't part of your group and my mind is thinking separately. I don't think everything is pointed to the hoax. Especially not the things that destroy Michael's image. You make them look useful and i find it a bit unrealistic.

I'm going to agree with you. Why every single article should be coming from Michael? He can't possibly control all media reporters. I think that this is just another BS article from, well... not very bright person, who either personally doesn't like Michael or has nothing better do to than once again cover Michael's beautiful name with garbage rumors. I really doubt that Michael wants people to read these kind of things about him, he suffered enough from it, why do that again to himself? Doesn't make any sense to me.

L.O.V.E to all! :D

I have to disagree with you both. You say that Michael wouldn't like people to read these kind of crap about him, but I would like to ask you guys if you believe Murray is in on the hoax or not. Because if you believe that Murray is just a part of the script, we should take a look at the script where he belongs to. Michael chose to "die" because of proforol! Do you guys believe that someone else made the desicion about the way he was suppose to die? Because I don't. I do believe that Michael wrote this death script and IF he didn't want people to think that he was an addict, I think he would have chosen something else to die, don't you think? I'm not saying all these articles are coming from Michael himself and they do not need to but what we have seen during the hoax was, it has also a 'clearing MJ's name' policy. All of the things we hear about the trial is putting Michael into bad light and this is just one of them. And I do agree with Bec. Murray's team is going to blame Michael with every single issue they can find and after the trial with Michael's return, a legal and formal explanation of the hoax will be made by the FBI and Michael and this will be clearing MJ's name and proving that he was never an addict of any drugs. Michael is giving himself a HUGE chance to show the world who he really is. This sounds like a perfect plan to me. :)
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: AnaMarcia on May 01, 2011, 04:27:37 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "heartphantom"
Why do you take all coming from Michael? Isn't this misleading? Maybe it's a new perspective because i wasn't part of your group and my mind is thinking separately. I don't think everything is pointed to the hoax. Especially not the things that destroy Michael's image. You make them look useful and i find it a bit unrealistic.

I'm going to agree with you. Why every single article should be coming from Michael? He can't possibly control all media reporters. I think that this is just another BS article from, well... not very bright person, who either personally doesn't like Michael or has nothing better do to than once again cover Michael's beautiful name with garbage rumors. I really doubt that Michael wants people to read these kind of things about him, he suffered enough from it, why do that again to himself? Doesn't make any sense to me.

L.O.V.E to all! :D

I have to disagree with you both. You say that Michael wouldn't like people to read these kind of crap about him, but I would like to ask you guys if you believe Murray is in on the hoax or not. Because if you believe that Murray is just a part of the script, we should take a look at the script where he belongs to. Michael chose to "die" because of proforol! Do you guys believe that someone else made the desicion about the way he was suppose to die? Because I don't. I do believe that Michael wrote this death script and IF he didn't want people to think that he was an addict, I think he would have chosen something else to die, don't you think? I'm not saying all these articles are coming from Michael himself and they do not need to but what we have seen during the hoax was, it has also a 'clearing MJ's name' policy. All of the things we hear about the trial is putting Michael into bad light and this is just one of them. And I do agree with Bec. Murray's team is going to blame Michael with every single issue they can find and after the trial with Michael's return, a legal and formal explanation of the hoax will be made by the FBI and Michael and this will be clearing MJ's name and proving that he was never an addict of any drugs. Michael is giving himself a HUGE chance to show the world who he really is. This sounds like a perfect plan to me. :)

 :P
This really is a great theory to us that we are of the hoax land! ;)
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: heartphantom on May 01, 2011, 05:03:29 PM
We will see at the trial coming soon if the theory is right.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: Suzi~Ses~Its~Right on May 01, 2011, 07:58:29 PM
This really hasnt anything to do with cocaine nor Michaels choice of underwear  ;) so not sure it belongs here, but thought id post it here as this topic concerns NOTW. A friend of mine works for their sister paper The Sun. The other week this friend commented on my Michael Jackson clock hanging on the wall of my shop, and another friend who was there at the time mentioned one of her friends on twitter was an MJ fan so innocentley without thinking i said to her 'ask your friend if she is a beLIEver or a soldier. my friend looked at me puzzled and i said dont worry if she is a true MJ fan she will know what i mean  8-) . The other freind suddenly took intrest in my convo and asked if i ever visited the MJ Hoax website, now this shocked me cos he is a 57 year old man who can only name one MJ song and thats Thriller!! lol. anyway faking naivety i laughed and said 'no of course not, i only know about the site from a report a while ago in the sun. so i innocently  :twisted: said how do you know about it, you dont work as a reporter, your the last person i would epext to know about a site like that adding a very faked sarcastic laugh for authenticity lol. he answered .. are you joking its one of the most watched sites on the net!!! to say i was shocked was an understatement but i kept my composure making it look as though it just didnt bother me or faze me ... but it got me thinking .. why is this site watched most when there are so many others out there?? ... one things for sure if it is true then im sure one of his collegues will certainly tell him about this post of mine  8-)
I didnt think it important .. well not that important at the time, and i just thought id share it with you. I know its random rambling but it makes you go hmmmmmmm when you read these sorts of stories dont it  :?
Anyway i'll keep you all informed if and when anything comes back to me from this post  ;)
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: voiceforthesilent on May 01, 2011, 08:36:34 PM
Interesting story - please keep us informed if you find out any more. Thanks for sharing this with us. Blessings :)

Quote from: "Suzi~Ses~Its~Right"
This really hasnt anything to do with cocaine nor Michaels choice of underwear  ;) so not sure it belongs here, but thought id post it here as this topic concerns NOTW. A friend of mine works for their sister paper The Sun. The other week this friend commented on my Michael Jackson clock hanging on the wall of my shop, and another friend who was there at the time mentioned one of her friends on twitter was an MJ fan so innocentley without thinking i said to her 'ask your friend if she is a beLIEver or a soldier. my friend looked at me puzzled and i said dont worry if she is a true MJ fan she will know what i mean  8-) . The other freind suddenly took intrest in my convo and asked if i ever visited the MJ Hoax website, now this shocked me cos he is a 57 year old man who can only name one MJ song and thats Thriller!! lol. anyway faking naivety i laughed and said 'no of course not, i only know about the site from a report a while ago in the sun. so i innocently  :twisted: said how do you know about it, you dont work as a reporter, your the last person i would epext to know about a site like that adding a very faked sarcastic laugh for authenticity lol. he answered .. are you joking its one of the most watched sites on the net!!! to say i was shocked was an understatement but i kept my composure making it look as though it just didnt bother me or faze me ... but it got me thinking .. why is this site watched most when there are so many others out there?? ... one things for sure if it is true then im sure one of his collegues will certainly tell him about this post of mine  8-)
I didnt think it important .. well not that important at the time, and i just thought id share it with you. I know its random rambling but it makes you go hmmmmmmm when you read these sorts of stories dont it  :?
Anyway i'll keep you all informed if and when anything comes back to me from this post  ;)
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: voiceforthesilent on May 01, 2011, 08:46:38 PM
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "heartphantom"
Why do you take all coming from Michael? Isn't this misleading? Maybe it's a new perspective because i wasn't part of your group and my mind is thinking separately. I don't think everything is pointed to the hoax. Especially not the things that destroy Michael's image. You make them look useful and i find it a bit unrealistic.

I'm going to agree with you. Why every single article should be coming from Michael? He can't possibly control all media reporters. I think that this is just another BS article from, well... not very bright person, who either personally doesn't like Michael or has nothing better do to than once again cover Michael's beautiful name with garbage rumors. I really doubt that Michael wants people to read these kind of things about him, he suffered enough from it, why do that again to himself? Doesn't make any sense to me.

L.O.V.E to all! :D

I have to disagree with you both. You say that Michael wouldn't like people to read these kind of crap about him, but I would like to ask you guys if you believe Murray is in on the hoax or not. Because if you believe that Murray is just a part of the script, we should take a look at the script where he belongs to. Michael chose to "die" because of proforol! Do you guys believe that someone else made the desicion about the way he was suppose to die? Because I don't. I do believe that Michael wrote this death script and IF he didn't want people to think that he was an addict, I think he would have chosen something else to die, don't you think? I'm not saying all these articles are coming from Michael himself and they do not need to but what we have seen during the hoax was, it has also a 'clearing MJ's name' policy. All of the things we hear about the trial is putting Michael into bad light and this is just one of them. And I do agree with Bec. Murray's team is going to blame Michael with every single issue they can find and after the trial with Michael's return, a legal and formal explanation of the hoax will be made by the FBI and Michael and this will be clearing MJ's name and proving that he was never an addict of any drugs. Michael is giving himself a HUGE chance to show the world who he really is. This sounds like a perfect plan to me. :)

 :P
This really is a great theory to us that we are of the hoax land! ;)

I agree - there is strong evidence that this hoax is in part a clean-up of Michaels name, a "revealing" of who Michael really is, and a TAKEOVER or TAKE-BACK of everything that's been ripped away from Michael.

There have been several times where stories came out about Michael's sexual preference, whether Michael was the real father of his children, etc., etc., and people became very angry that these stories were coming out saying they degraded Michael's name and were disrespectful. However, if they don't come out, how can they be addressed? How else would this be brought up in order for the truth to be told? I was excited when these stories came out because it gave chance for the truth to come out. And the truth will be in Michael's favor, rest assured.

For instance, it sounds like some believe that the cocaine in his underwear is truth. But, there are two things about that cocaine - 1) it was shown that it wasn't in Michael blood and 2) there is reason to believe the evidence was planted.

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14.   Underwear & Cocaine (full text)

Mr. Jackson’s underwear was found in a laundry bag, along with the bed sheets (discussed in section 13 above). This underwear had bloodstain and cocaine. A forensic lab for the Prosecution tested this underwear. No cocaine, however, was found in the blood.

Mr. Jackson has vitiligo. A medical injection he receives causes him to dispense blood. The underwear with the bloodstains reflects the fact.

It is unknown how and why the cocaine was found on the underwear. It may be evidence of contamination. In the alternative, someone may have brought cocaine during a fundraising party at Neverland in September 2003, where hundreds of people, including well-known celebrities, were present.

In short, neither the underwear nor the cocaine found on the underwear (and not in Mr. Jackson’s blood) has probative value to any of the charged crimes in this case.

Mentioning these items of irrelevant and extraneous factors will only inflame the jurors and prejudice Mr. Jackson’s rights to a fair trial. Thus, any reference (direct or indirect and oral or written) to the underwear or cocaine should be precluded under Sections 210 and 352”.
Cocaine !?

The test was made in a forensic lab for the Prosecution. If it was only on the fabric but not in the blood the worst conclusion we can arrive at is that it was in MJ’s possession but he wasn’t taking it. He was never taking it as the traces of cocaine would remain in blood for a substantial period of time and once someone gets addicted to cocaine he has to take it regularly as it is awfully habit-forming.

Here is some scientific information about how cocaine is tested and found in the body: http://howto.dcrdetox.com/tips-to-find- ... our-system (http://howto.dcrdetox.com/tips-to-find-how-long-cocaine-stays-in-your-system)

http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2011/0 ... -a-set-up/ (http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/dirty-laundry-and-cocaine-in-michaels-home-it-was-a-set-up/)


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DEFENSE

January 18, 2005
Notice of Motion and Motion in Limine to Exclude Fourteen (14) items of irrelevant evidence (“Motion of Limine Group #1)

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ct ... texc14.pdf (http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/011805notmotexc14.pdf)

”…. on January 28, 2005 … defendant  M.J.Jackson (Mr. Jackson) will move the Court for an order excluding any reference … to the following 14 irrelevant and extraneous evidence at trial:

1.   “Baby dangling”
2.   Cosmetic or plastic surgery
3.   Lyrics from Mr. Jackson’s songs
4.   Bankruptcy filed by M.Jackson’s family
5.   Al Malnik’s alleged ties to mobsters
6.   Brothel allegedly owned by Dieter Weisner
7.   Scott Peterson’s case
8.   Mark Geragos’s website
9.   Ray Chandler’s book entitled “All that Glitters”
10. Victor Gutierrez’s book entitled “Michael Jackson was my Lover”
11.  Attorney General’s Investigation of Mr. Jackson’s injury
12.  Items Seized by Henry Vaccaro
13.  DNA of Anyone other than Mr. Jackson, and

14.  Underwear and Cocaine.

The preclusion of these items of evidence is based on the following two grounds,
First, they are irrelevant under Evidence Code Section 210 because they have no tendency in reason to prove or disprove any disputed fact that is of consequence to the determination of this action.
Second, even if relevant, they nevertheless much be excluded under Evidence Code Section 352 because the probative value of such evidence is substantially outweighed by the danger of prejudice, undue consumption of court time, and confusion of the jury. [ ]

Thomas Mesereau, Susan C.Yu, Robert M.Sanger, Brian Oxman
Attorneys for Mr. Michael Jackson
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: voiceforthesilent on May 01, 2011, 09:13:14 PM
In addition to the post above, I'd like to say that I believe this hoax in part has been about setting the record straight - I just feel that to be true.

One by one these rumors that followed Michael throughout his life are being brought up. And even though it's uncomfortable for us, it's necessary, in order for it to be brought to the light and exposed for what it really is. Think about all of the things that haunted Michael over the years - all of those suspicions are being brought up in order for the real story to be told.

Hang on - it's probably going to get bumpier as we go along but rest assured Michael will come out of this with his dignity in tact. And he won't be the one trying to convince people. It will be in the truth itself that cannot be ignored.

I believe that the world has had a real awakening when it comes to the character assassination of Michael Jackson. Just look at how the general population respond to his name now as compared to before June 25, 2009. But there is still more work to be done before Michael gets the vindication he deserves. The world is paying attention and they will be watching this trial and even those that think Michael is dead will learn who the real Michael Jackson is. And it will be for the good.

Blessings.
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on May 01, 2011, 09:31:28 PM
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "heartphantom"
Why do you take all coming from Michael? Isn't this misleading? Maybe it's a new perspective because i wasn't part of your group and my mind is thinking separately. I don't think everything is pointed to the hoax. Especially not the things that destroy Michael's image. You make them look useful and i find it a bit unrealistic.

I'm going to agree with you. Why every single article should be coming from Michael? He can't possibly control all media reporters. I think that this is just another BS article from, well... not very bright person, who either personally doesn't like Michael or has nothing better do to than once again cover Michael's beautiful name with garbage rumors. I really doubt that Michael wants people to read these kind of things about him, he suffered enough from it, why do that again to himself? Doesn't make any sense to me.

L.O.V.E to all! :D

I have to disagree with you both. You say that Michael wouldn't like people to read these kind of crap about him, but I would like to ask you guys if you believe Murray is in on the hoax or not. Because if you believe that Murray is just a part of the script, we should take a look at the script where he belongs to. Michael chose to "die" because of proforol! Do you guys believe that someone else made the desicion about the way he was suppose to die? Because I don't. I do believe that Michael wrote this death script and IF he didn't want people to think that he was an addict, I think he would have chosen something else to die, don't you think? I'm not saying all these articles are coming from Michael himself and they do not need to but what we have seen during the hoax was, it has also a 'clearing MJ's name' policy. All of the things we hear about the trial is putting Michael into bad light and this is just one of them. And I do agree with Bec. Murray's team is going to blame Michael with every single issue they can find and after the trial with Michael's return, a legal and formal explanation of the hoax will be made by the FBI and Michael and this will be clearing MJ's name and proving that he was never an addict of any drugs. Michael is giving himself a HUGE chance to show the world who he really is. This sounds like a perfect plan to me. :)

Of course Murray is in on the hoax! :D He is the main star of a movie  :lol: I love your theory Purelove and i've noticed before as all of you guys did that CM's lawyers are making those ridiculous defence theories which put Michael in a bad light. And i'm sure that they are all just following Michael's script. And as i said before on this thread that this article made me laugh, A LOT!
And in my previous comment i said that not every single article should be from Michael and i see you agree with me on that. Plus we are talking about this specific article which is plain BS and it's written in a bad manner, so i don't really see any disagreements between us  :D

L.O.V.E to all! :D
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: wishingstar on May 01, 2011, 09:42:10 PM
I can't help it.....gematria game time:

50 = cocaine, June
(more too, these just stood out to me)
What a coincidence!

Blessings
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: PureLove on May 02, 2011, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "PureLove"
Quote from: "Kristina4LOVE"
Quote from: "heartphantom"
Why do you take all coming from Michael? Isn't this misleading? Maybe it's a new perspective because i wasn't part of your group and my mind is thinking separately. I don't think everything is pointed to the hoax. Especially not the things that destroy Michael's image. You make them look useful and i find it a bit unrealistic.

I'm going to agree with you. Why every single article should be coming from Michael? He can't possibly control all media reporters. I think that this is just another BS article from, well... not very bright person, who either personally doesn't like Michael or has nothing better do to than once again cover Michael's beautiful name with garbage rumors. I really doubt that Michael wants people to read these kind of things about him, he suffered enough from it, why do that again to himself? Doesn't make any sense to me.

L.O.V.E to all! :D

I have to disagree with you both. You say that Michael wouldn't like people to read these kind of crap about him, but I would like to ask you guys if you believe Murray is in on the hoax or not. Because if you believe that Murray is just a part of the script, we should take a look at the script where he belongs to. Michael chose to "die" because of proforol! Do you guys believe that someone else made the desicion about the way he was suppose to die? Because I don't. I do believe that Michael wrote this death script and IF he didn't want people to think that he was an addict, I think he would have chosen something else to die, don't you think? I'm not saying all these articles are coming from Michael himself and they do not need to but what we have seen during the hoax was, it has also a 'clearing MJ's name' policy. All of the things we hear about the trial is putting Michael into bad light and this is just one of them. And I do agree with Bec. Murray's team is going to blame Michael with every single issue they can find and after the trial with Michael's return, a legal and formal explanation of the hoax will be made by the FBI and Michael and this will be clearing MJ's name and proving that he was never an addict of any drugs. Michael is giving himself a HUGE chance to show the world who he really is. This sounds like a perfect plan to me. :)

Of course Murray is in on the hoax! :D He is the main star of a movie  :lol: I love your theory Purelove and i've noticed before as all of you guys did that CM's lawyers are making those ridiculous defence theories which put Michael in a bad light. And i'm sure that they are all just following Michael's script. And as i said before on this thread that this article made me laugh, A LOT!
And in my previous comment i said that not every single article should be from Michael and i see you agree with me on that. Plus we are talking about this specific article which is plain BS and it's written in a bad manner, so i don't really see any disagreements between us  :D

L.O.V.E to all! :D

We disagree about this; you say:
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I really doubt that Michael wants people to read these kind of things about him, he suffered enough from it, why do that again to himself?

but I say:
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Michael chose to "die" because of proforol! I do believe that Michael wrote this death script and IF he didn't want people to think that he was an addict, I think he would have chosen something else to die, don't you think?

Shortly I'm saying that he doesn't care what people would think about him, or would think if he was an addict because the Truth will prevail sooner or later and everyone will learn it.[/b] :D
Title: Re: News of the World Jacko had cocaine in his pants
Post by: paula-c on May 16, 2011, 04:03:28 PM
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10. Victor Gutierrez’s book entitled “Michael Jackson was my Lover”


My comment has nothing to do with the topic,.. but this man is the worst shit and garbage i have seen in my life :evil:
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