Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Hoax Videos => Topic started by: heartphantom on May 10, 2011, 10:07:27 AM
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no cryptic message,plain and simple.
apparently this person used to be under the username Imissyouall09
more about Imissyouall09 here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=2520&hilit=imissyouall09#p37362
if you ca watch his other uploads please share what he says, i can't because of the country permission.
[youtube:qfntrfvn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrSWnLhoc2w[/youtube:qfntrfvn]
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT THE HECK...................apart from the spelling mistake...............i see a TROLL.........imo
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I am not sure this come from Michael, but it is great. Would be awesome if it is. I would not be surprised if Michael does not return. God Bless you Michael and we love you more. (http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/mittelgrosse/medium-smiley-047.gif)
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Why is everything that is conforting, from the heart, compassionate, loving, CONSIDERED FROM A DAMN TROLL ????????
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Well I don't buy that he wasn't physically fit for one. And a "bad" prankster/creative genius doesn't ask for people's forgiveness. He just will do what he is driven to do, and let the chips fall where they may, and leave the world spell-bound and in wonder or sadly in hate. mj_bad/
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Well I don't buy that he wasn't physically fit for one.
So you think Michael was looking all right at rehearsals and in TII?
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Just going by how he looks to me, and what many close to him said, except for Karen Faye, but I think painting the sickly bankrupt victim Michael was her role in the hoax.
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I can`t see the video ... :|
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MICHAEL Jackson was so weak in his final days he needed to be SPOON-FED meals, his make-up artist has revealed.
Karen Faye, 53, says the King of Pop was "disorientated and sickly" in his last week and claims the pressure of his up-coming London shows "killed" him.
She was by the Thriller star's side at rehearsals in Los Angeles in June for his comeback at the O2 in Greenwich.
Karen told Jackson's fans on Facebook that choreographer Kenny Ortega was feeding the singer.
She said: "He was 12-20 pound heavier in April than he was in June. Kenny was cutting his chicken and feeding it to him. This was one of my concerns. If he cannot feed himself, how could he be expected to do these shows?"
Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... z1Lz0KBfRi (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2591228/Frail-sick-Jackson-was-fed-by-spoon-says-singers-make-up-artist.html#ixzz1Lz0KBfRi)
This article makes now sense with the video.
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I can`t see the video ... :|
This you tube member uses "I" instead of "He" , so maybe he doesn't pose as insider but as Michael Jackson himself.
The idea is he is asking for forgiveness for having to leave , but 50 concerts were too much for his health condition.
I'm having problems with watching his other uploaded videos, country permissions deny it, maybe one of you can help with other "clues".
Troll or not, how can we tell anyway? It' worth watching.
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what a strange video this is suspicious//
Those women call for Michael to talk to them on that channel...God knows what this user told them
[youtube:2u01vaab]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc6jBHMLyKg[/youtube:2u01vaab]
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i know.....
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Come on now, if you believe he was this sick and weak, then you may as well believe he died, cos sure as hell he couldn't have devised and seen through a meticulously planned death hoax in this pitiful condition. And if you think well he must've planned his hoax way in advance, before he got sick, why would he do that? In case he needed it one day if things got too much? Or to put it into action when he was totally fit and in control?
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curls, not everyone thinks this has been planned for a long time ago. meticulously, intense, yes. But not planned for years. I don't.
And Michael was helped with this hoax, ill or not.
It's just a you tube video, or at most another theory. No reasons to have death conclusions.
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I don't want to believe he was sick but at times, in TII, it breaks my heart to see him so....weak? I don't know, maybe I am wrong.
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To be honest i don't understand why members don't see it too. Around 25hJune a lot of friends around me were talking about how weak MJ looked. Maybe we believers don't want to see it because we're afraid of what that might mean. But to me that's not a reason to draw conclusions, it's still a hoax. But bye bye sting operations and maybe comebacks. JUST MY OPINION, PLEASE DO NOT SHOOT!
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This story is already stirring a lot with my emotions. sometimes I see posts from some people here and I really want to cry. What is happening here, folks?
Maybe I'm blind because I can not see Michael dying! Maybe I'm just fooling myself to 20 months. Really?
I think I need a break.
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It seems like the ones who have nothing to really gain or lose say that Mike was in great shape. Michael was fine, according to Orianthi, she didn't take the news of his death serious at first. And others who had worked closely to Michael say the same thing. It seems fishy that there are a few who say he is dead, and some who believe he is still alive and some who have no idea what the hell is going on and are just as confused as we are lol. Perhaps some of them have joined a hoax forum, maybe even this one :). Watch TII (age 50) and his Dangerous Rehearsels (age 32) and compare the two, see if anything looks like a red flag!
[youtube:4vmffefa]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YGCQrdSSOc[/youtube:4vmffefa]
Dangerous Rehearsal and then TII Rehearsal, an 18 year difference. Not too shabby if ya ask me ;). He doesn't put his all into a rehearsal the way he does his concerts. Rehearsal misses one essential ingredient: the energy of the audience ;). I honestly think the whole 'MJ was weak and frail and popping pills left and right" is a LIE, an illusion.
michael-jackson/
[youtube:4vmffefa]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NHoz3szWUs[/youtube:4vmffefa]
[youtube:4vmffefa]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukQzhTiX1EE&feature=related[/youtube:4vmffefa]
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curls, not everyone thinks this has been planned for a long time ago. meticulously, intense, yes. But not planned for years. I don't.
And Michael was helped with this hoax, ill or not.
It's just a you tube video, or at most another theory. No reasons to have death conclusions.
I think I didn't make myself very clear! I know many people don't think this was planned a long time ago, but I do - that's why I questioned whether a sick MJ would be likely to hurriedly devise and carry this out, even with help. I very much doubt it, which reinforces my belief that this WAS planned a long time ago.
The video to me is just someone's attempt at making sense of what happened, yes, another 'theory' maybe, but it is so flawed in my opinion, that it certainly hasn't led me to have a 'death conclusion'. I might have that if I was convinced that MJ was ill - and a random Youtube vid or the Sun newspaper isn't going to do that for me!
You think differently, which is fine!
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to try to watch a Billie Jean performance for clues or signs or whatever is IMpossible for me...I always get caught in the beauty of this amazing song and forget for why I've started watching it in the first place :lol:
There's a difference thought, maybe it's just the age, I mean I hope it's just the age.
Anyway I wouldn't trade the 50 or 60 or 150 MJ for no other artist.....
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Oh he is so beautiful in that Billie Jean 2009 penguin/
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The video to me is just someone's attempt at making sense of what happened
Yes, or just a pathetic poser who tells women in PM that he's Michael. Channel comments are scary, also the videos made with pictures of women probably met online. :?
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to try to watch a Billie Jean performance for clues or signs or whatever is IMpossible for me...I always get caught in the beauty of this amazing song and forget for why I've started watching it in the first place :lol:
There's a difference thought, maybe it's just the age, I mean I hope it's just the age.
Anyway I wouldn't trade the 50 or 60 or 150 MJ for no other artist.....
I've heard Michael say that when there are only a few people watching him dance or sing, he becomes embarrassed and really shy :oops: so he must be holding back a little :). Also since those Dangerous Rehearsals, he went on to do 69 shows. And the HIStory tour had 82 shows. MJ is tired of touring, he's been touring all of his life! He is only one person and he can't stay 20 years old forever. All of that damage to his body as a dancer and world wide performer would be exhausting to an 18 year old healthy kid. We have to keep this in mind, the story is not as vague as "oh he looks tired! omg, he must be dying!!" Thank God MJ finally said "Enough is enough!" and bounced bounce/.
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It seems like the ones who have nothing to really gain or lose say that Mike was in great shape. Michael was fine, according to Orianthi, she didn't take the news of his death serious at first. And others who had worked closely to Michael say the same thing. It seems fishy that there are a few who say he is dead, and some who believe he is still alive and some who have no idea what the hell is going on and are just as confused as we are lol. Perhaps some of them have joined a hoax forum, maybe even this one :). Watch TII (age 50) and his Dangerous Rehearsels (age 32) and compare the two, see if anything looks like a red flag!
[youtube:ki5bggxu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YGCQrdSSOc[/youtube:ki5bggxu]
Dangerous Rehearsal and then TII Rehearsal, an 18 year difference. Not too shabby if ya ask me ;). He doesn't put his all into a rehearsal the way he does his concerts. Rehearsal misses one essential ingredient: the energy of the audience ;). I honestly think the whole 'MJ was weak and frail and popping pills left and right" is a LIE, an illusion.
michael-jackson/
[youtube:ki5bggxu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NHoz3szWUs[/youtube:ki5bggxu]
[youtube:ki5bggxu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukQzhTiX1EE&feature=related[/youtube:ki5bggxu]
Thank you so much for your post!!! bearhug
The video of Michael's rehearsal for Dangerous Tour is amazing!
Michael was not sick, that's what i believe in, he always took a great care of his health! I see that people have different opinions about it, but that's how i see Michael, HAPPY AND HEALTHY!
Much L.O.V.E to all!
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Crap! BS! Just a TROLL! I think this is the same one who said that Michael became a woman after the 25th. Ohh God what a crap! :roll:
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to me it's another troll who has enough time to play with the fans' emotions!
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In regards to the TII rehearsals...it also depends on what you believe regarding doubles. IMO we have no way of knowing for sure which versions of MJ were really the man himself. So it's hard to say anything about his health. I'm not commenting on the video, haven't watched it, doubt it's worth it.
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In regards to the TII rehearsals...it also depends on what you believe regarding doubles. IMO we have no way of knowing for sure which versions of MJ were really the man himself. So it's hard to say anything about his health. I'm not commenting on the video, haven't watched it, doubt it's worth it.
I know Michael when I see Michael. Take it however you want, but I do not fully believe in the doubles theory regarding TII. I think its 100% MJ, I believe that TII project was too important to him to not be 100% apart of it. Some of you may or may not have been fans of Michael for a long enough time to just KNOW when you see him. And I don't want what I'm saying to be taken out of context or misunderstood at all. I'm aware of how easy it is for that to happen over the internet versus an in person conversation :).
As for the original video posted in this thread, yes I believe it is someone up to no good. Whoever wrote it seems like a kindergartener, not very saavy with words.
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In regards to the TII rehearsals...it also depends on what you believe regarding doubles. IMO we have no way of knowing for sure which versions of MJ were really the man himself. So it's hard to say anything about his health. I'm not commenting on the video, haven't watched it, doubt it's worth it.
I know Michael when I see Michael. Take it however you want, but I do not fully believe in the doubles theory regarding TII. I think its 100% MJ, I believe that TII project was too important to him to not be 100% apart of it. Some of you may or may not have been fans of Michael for a long enough time to just KNOW when you see him. And I don't want what I'm saying to be taken out of context or misunderstood at all. I'm aware of how easy it is for that to happen over the internet versus an in person conversation :).
As for the original video posted in this thread, yes I believe it is someone up to no good. Whoever wrote it seems like a kindergartener, not very saavy with words.
100% AGREE!!! Perfectly said TheMoon. I do not believe in doubles in TII and I do believe that the 02 Michael was Michael himself as well. moonwalk_/
Btw here is a new video that was made with TII footages for the Behind the Mask song. Enjoy. :mrgreen:
[youtube:2fug0i8h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJUieoFzCE&feature=share[/youtube:2fug0i8h]
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In regards to the TII rehearsals...it also depends on what you believe regarding doubles. IMO we have no way of knowing for sure which versions of MJ were really the man himself. So it's hard to say anything about his health. I'm not commenting on the video, haven't watched it, doubt it's worth it.
I know Michael when I see Michael. Take it however you want, but I do not fully believe in the doubles theory regarding TII. I think its 100% MJ, I believe that TII project was too important to him to not be 100% apart of it. Some of you may or may not have been fans of Michael for a long enough time to just KNOW when you see him. And I don't want what I'm saying to be taken out of context or misunderstood at all. I'm aware of how easy it is for that to happen over the internet versus an in person conversation :).
As for the original video posted in this thread, yes I believe it is someone up to no good. Whoever wrote it seems like a kindergartener, not very saavy with words.
100% AGREE!!! Perfectly said TheMoon. I do not believe in doubles in TII and I do believe that the 02 Michael was Michael himself as well. moonwalk_/
Btw here is a new video that was made with TII footages for the Behind the Mask song. Enjoy. :mrgreen:
[youtube:3mkwgaob]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJUieoFzCE&feature=share[/youtube:3mkwgaob]
Agreed! All (almost) Michael in TII, however he may have inserted images to makes us question about doubles. I really don't think he will give the lime-light position to another. But I believe the whole doubles concept probably even comes from MJ himself as the master magician. He wants people to speculate there's doubles. That's why 02 guy's behaviour seemed un-MJ-like, but I firmly believe it was him. Illusion after illusion. He lives for controversy and all that. Thanks for the great videos! Orianthi confirms she danced with Michael, not a double on stage, and says he's healthy. Karen does his make-up and says he's sickly, so who do we believe? Of course she did 9 hours of make-up on dead MJ (they would never allow that as it is a complex procedure on the dead, only undertakers IMO)(LaToya, a family member dressing dead MJ!!--no way again) so maybe that means her testimony is more accurate. All clips and songs MJ did on TII were danced with energy required by a very healthy person, not someone needing their food cut up--he'd have to be carried on stage on a stretcher. What complete nonsense IMO.
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I don't want to believe he was sick but at times, in TII, it breaks my heart to see him so....weak? I don't know, maybe I am wrong.
Ginafelicia where did you see him weak and sick on TII? I see him prefectly fine and healty. Lou Ferigno said he was healthy. Michael was always skinny, I do not see any difference from 1980 and now, He was always SKINNY. lucky him he had no problem gaining weight. I do not believe that this was Michael writing this youtube, he will not jeopardize his sting operation, whatever he is in.. Please guys do not swallow everything you see or hear.
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100% AGREE!!! Perfectly said TheMoon. I do not believe in doubles in TII and I do believe that the 02 Michael was Michael himself as well. moonwalk_/
I believe it was the real MJ at o2 as well, his behavior was either to build speculation or it was different and he was overwhelmingly excited because he knew once he said the words "this is it, this is the final curtain call," the deal would be sealed, and the journey would begin. I'm torn on both theories!!!
Agreed! All (almost) Michael in TII, however he may have inserted images to makes us question about doubles. I really don't think he will give the lime-light position to another. But I believe the whole doubles concept probably even comes from MJ himself as the master magician. He wants people to speculate there's doubles. That's why 02 guy's behaviour seemed un-MJ-like, but I firmly believe it was him. Illusion after illusion. He lives for controversy and all that. Thanks for the great videos! Orianthi confirms she danced with Michael, not a double on stage, and says he's healthy. Karen does his make-up and says he's sickly, so who do we believe? Of course she did 9 hours of make-up on dead MJ (they would never allow that as it is a complex procedure on the dead, only undertakers IMO)(LaToya, a family member dressing dead MJ!!--no way again) so maybe that means her testimony is more accurate. All clips and songs MJ did on TII were danced with energy required by a very healthy person, not someone needing their food cut up--he'd have to be carried on stage on a stretcher. What complete nonsense IMO.
Orianthi is the guitarist, silly! :lol: What do you mean she danced with MJ? I'm sure you know that, I just thought I'd pick on you :D. And Karen Faye is a bit of a liar it seems, doesn't it? I met a Funeral Home director (I'm a massage therapist and have the priviledge of meeting all types of people) and I decided to ask him what he thought of a professional make up artist working on a deceased person without any experience. He laughed and said, "Where in the hell did you hear that?!?", he said the only ones who do the make up are the members of the funeral home. In the US, you have to be family or close relations to even get a job in a funeral home. They don't usually accept outsiders in their line of work. Lets just be thankful that God gave us brains and we're the few who actually use them! ;)
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Ginafelicia where did you see him weak and sick on TII?
I saw this too, Gina is not the only one.
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to try to watch a Billie Jean performance for clues or signs or whatever is IMpossible for me...I always get caught in the beauty of this amazing song and forget for why I've started watching it in the first place :lol:
Hey GINAFELICIA.......
I know what you mean by getting caught up and forgetting why you are watching, lol. As many times as I have watched this part of TII, I still get side-tracked by it all. I do truly believe there is something going on within the Billie Jean TII performance, however. There are very obvious pantomime movements within the song. Almost as if he unzips himself, or steps through a door, sprays his face, powders his face.....lots to discover. I believe there is a thread about this....I will look around. It's hard to concentrate on anything else but his dance.....totally captivating.
Blessings to you always!
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In regards to the TII rehearsals...it also depends on what you believe regarding doubles. IMO we have no way of knowing for sure which versions of MJ were really the man himself. So it's hard to say anything about his health. I'm not commenting on the video, haven't watched it, doubt it's worth it.
I know Michael when I see Michael. Take it however you want, but I do not fully believe in the doubles theory regarding TII. I think its 100% MJ, I believe that TII project was too important to him to not be 100% apart of it. Some of you may or may not have been fans of Michael for a long enough time to just KNOW when you see him. And I don't want what I'm saying to be taken out of context or misunderstood at all. I'm aware of how easy it is for that to happen over the internet versus an in person conversation :).
As for the original video posted in this thread, yes I believe it is someone up to no good. Whoever wrote it seems like a kindergartener, not very saavy with words.
100% AGREE!!! Perfectly said TheMoon. I do not believe in doubles in TII and I do believe that the 02 Michael was Michael himself as well. moonwalk_/
Btw here is a new video that was made with TII footages for the Behind the Mask song. Enjoy. :mrgreen:
[youtube:2hldn0qw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJUieoFzCE&feature=share[/youtube:2hldn0qw]
Agreed! All (almost) Michael in TII, however he may have inserted images to makes us question about doubles. I really don't think he will give the lime-light position to another. But I believe the whole doubles concept probably even comes from MJ himself as the master magician. He wants people to speculate there's doubles. That's why 02 guy's behaviour seemed un-MJ-like, but I firmly believe it was him. Illusion after illusion. He lives for controversy and all that.
Aha that's what I wrote long time ago. I do also believe that Michael wanted to create a double illusion. Probably for his safety after he BAMS. Very well said MJonmind.
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what a strange video this is suspicious//
Those women call for Michael to talk to them on that channel...God knows what this user told them
[youtube:3v4jbu73]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc6jBHMLyKg[/youtube:3v4jbu73]
Gave me the feeling that the user is making fun of the situation and the women as well.
Trolls reproduce like spores.
The love for Michael can hurt people because they (we) can become very vulnerable and trust anyone.
There are many blogs all over the net talking about how to prevent this kind of situations.
I remember having a conversation more than a year ago with a so called "Angel of Michael" and how she defended the troll who actually put her against "hoaxers" as well.... :roll:
Many women "Angels" think that hoaxers are a cancer for Michael´s plan to reunite with the "love of his life", so go figure why the hate towards hoaxers fresse/
Never mind how many warnings are out there, people is still vulnerable.
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Never mind how many warnings are out there, people is still vulnerable.
That is sad and at the same time dangerous. :( People be careful not to fall into the trap.
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There are many type of traps. Some are more dangerous than others. To some people this "hoax" is a trap but we feed each other ideas of how and why MJ faked his death so it is in the level of people believing that Elvis is alive, something intriguing, and, still we go on with our lives. This hoax becomes more like a curiosity or being in the search for the truth since nothing makes sense when comes the way MJ´s case is being handeled since day one.
The difference with trolls is that they (trolls) have a malicious agenda towards their targets and provide nothing positive to their prey but false hopes of love and put people against each other.
The hoax sites are bringing a lot of information regarding Michael and his previous life before June 25th. If Michael would come back or not is not the 1st priority for us (at least for me).
I want to know the truth, I want to know what happened to Michael and why, that´s the difference between "angels" and "evil hoaxers". Meantime the 1st group want to be Michael´s favs emotionally, the second want to be the support whatever happens, but, we could be both albino/
Think about this. Michael is an intelligent man, he knows people and how to talk to them, he is a communicator. We will know who he is when he wants to mj_dance/