Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: i_need YoU on December 22, 2009, 01:28:50 AM

Title: Please you have to read this!!! ASAP
Post by: i_need YoU on December 22, 2009, 01:28:50 AM
ok so there was a fox 8 news report done in february earlier this year, they were saying elvis is still alive and he faked his death!! but they are not quite sure yet because a lack of evidence blah blah that defeats the purpose. i dont know if this will be ne help to the investigation but they showed a pic of an older guy with WHITE hair holding Marie Presely's son and they had it up against a younger elvis!!! they look alike!!! i was thinking that maybe the guy at the memorial and the burial service that everyone keeps flipping out  about is elvis!! maybe Elvis helped Michael Jackson fake the death because Elvis got away with it?? and well kinda gotta away with it if the news were right??...Is the shady old man with white hair in the fedora hat elvis?!! check out this video and please tell me??

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 941506130# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2716848053941506130#)
 
sorry about my horrible typing skills and computer knowledge  :P...there is something about this video that gives me hope that if elvis, being as famous as he was, can do it then so can Michael Jackson!!
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Post by: hope on December 22, 2009, 01:43:02 AM
:shock:  :o  WOW unbelievable!!!!! GREAT find. Like father-n-law like son-n-law  :D .
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Post by: roxy101 on December 22, 2009, 01:45:11 AM
I have to say that this video freaked me out.

How eerie.
Don't know what to make of it.
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Post by: Sangre on December 22, 2009, 01:57:18 AM
I still have a hard time believing Elvis actually faked his death. Besides, I would highly doubt he would help Michael Jackson.

Even if Elvis did fake his own death, I think he is really dead by now.
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Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 01:58:50 AM
I have to admit Ive always believed Elvis was dead. Now I have to admit Im interested to hearing other sides to this...
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Post by: juliet on December 22, 2009, 02:06:43 AM
Yes, I've seen this vid before. One thing I can tell you, I am focused on Michael first.  Of course, I'm curious about Elvis as I read before that someone who visited Graceland spotted Elvis but wasn't able to take any vid/pic and somebody else was able to take a pic and I just can't remember what newsprint.

Anyway, my mind is totally congested with speculations about Michael and I don't think there's enough room for Elvis as all of my mind is for Michael.

Just the same, thanks for posting the vid link ;)
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Post by: LiteEyeZ22 on December 22, 2009, 02:08:38 AM
yeah ummm honestly if elvis is alive which i doubt WHY in the world would he help Michael??? Lisa's mother didnt like Michael nd pretty sure Elvis wouldnt like him(personally i dont know much about elvis just his music but my dad told me Elvis was 1 of the bigest racist, maybe tabloid junk idk but thas wat ive heard) and thas y i ask y would he help michael???? and How???? so i dont believe this theory
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Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 02:15:25 AM
Quote from: "LiteEyeZ22"
my dad told me Elvis was 1 of the bigest racist

 :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. ELVIS WAS NEVER RACIST. HE LOVED BLACK PEOPLE AND HE GOT INSPIRATION FROM THEM. At least thats my interpetation..  :shock:
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Post by: roxy101 on December 22, 2009, 02:18:31 AM
I too have heard that he had a slight problem with certain races...

I guess it depends on where you get your info ?
Idk because I remember hearing things about how mad would be if he were to know of Lisa and Michae'ls union etc etc

So therefore I don't think he'd help Michael....
but who knows
since he is in fact the one that introduced Michael and Lisa Marie when she was ten...

I'm not really qualified to make judgements since I don't know too much about Elvis..
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Post by: i_need YoU on December 22, 2009, 02:22:05 AM
i wasnt posting this on elvis's behalf...i was posting on michael jackson's behalf, and why not help, IF elvis really if alive he would be 72 btw...but if he were still alive i think he would help because he would understand where michael was coming from when he says he needs to get away?? maybe?? idk though i just trying to throw out all the options out there to work with...more the better. and ppl who keep saying they have "herd " these things bout elvis's racialness DONT ALWAYS BELIEVE THE MEDIA remember MJ
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Post by: hope on December 22, 2009, 02:23:35 AM
:o  Elvis definately wasnt a racist. And if anyone knew what Michael was going through and could understand the way he had to live, it would be Elvis. IF (and I say IF) Elvis is alive, I really could see him helping Michael. He was married to his daughter, and just because Pricilla didnt like Michael , doesnt mean Elvis wouldnt. Like i said, only Elvis would know what Michael was going through. JMO
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Post by: Sangre on December 22, 2009, 02:30:31 AM
1. Have you seen youtube comments between MJ fans and Elvis fans? For some reason, these two groups don't seem to get along.
2. Michael married Presley's daughter. LMP told the media Michael took advantage of this marriage to repair his reputation. So whose side would Elvis believe? - Michael's or his own daughter's?
3. Why would Elvis let Michael get away with copying him? It would seem as if Elvis wanted to be the big star, the Kind of Rock'n'Roll. Why help out his competitor?
4. How would they have met? How did Michael know that Elvis was alive and how did he find him and vice versa. Elvis would be 74, won't he have anything better to do than hunt down MJ? If Elvis really is alive, for some reason I don't think LMP knows. If she doesn't know, how does Michael know?

I believe Michael got the idea from Elvis, because he thought he did actually hoax his death. LMP said Michael was very interested in the details of her father's death and asked a lot of questions. I believe MJ did it to find out how Elvis pulled off the whole "hoax" thing.

Elvis would be 74 right now, not 72, btw.
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Post by: i_need YoU on December 22, 2009, 02:38:32 AM
yeah i was just guessing the age  :)
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Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 02:39:20 AM
Quote from: "Sangre"
1. Have you seen youtube comments between MJ fans and Elvis fans? For some reason, these two groups don't seem to get along.
2. Michael married Presley's daughter. LMP told the media Michael took advantage of this marriage to repair his reputation. So whose side would Elvis believe? - Michael's or his own daughter's?
3. Why would Elvis let Michael get away with copying him? It would seem as if Elvis wanted to be the big star, the Kind of Rock'n'Roll. Why help out his competitor?
4. How would they have met? How did Michael know that Elvis was alive and how did he find him and vice versa. Elvis would be 74, won't he have anything better to do than hunt down MJ? If Elvis really is alive, for some reason I don't think LMP knows. If she doesn't know, how does Michael know?

I believe Michael got the idea from Elvis, because he thought he did actually hoax his death. LMP said Michael was very interested in the details of her father's death and asked a lot of questions. I believe MJ did it to find out how Elvis pulled off the whole "hoax" thing.

Elvis would be 74 right now, not 72, btw.

I think the answer to why they dont get along is because they might not like Michael and he married Elvis daughter. Personally, I think it was a combination of genuine love and affection AND a PR stunt to clear his reputation after 93 but for one reason and another Lisa and Michael did not get along so they divorced. I think there is some truth to what Lisa has been saying. I agree, Michael asked tons of questions of Elvis death along with James Brown's death and spent 4 hour with his body asking questions about the process of prepearing a body.
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Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 22, 2009, 03:01:52 AM
Interesting video...thanks for posting.  I've never believed Elvis was alive, but at the off chance he did fake his death, then I'd guess LMP told MJ and that's where he first got the idea, since she said he asked so many questions about it.
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Post by: thecheetoman2004 on December 22, 2009, 03:06:44 AM
Hmm interesting.
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Post by: Christiana on December 22, 2009, 03:34:12 AM
I don't believe that Elvis is alive. I spent years researching it when the Is Elvis Alive hoopla was at its peak in the late 80's. There's not one "clue" or piece of "evidence" that I can't refute, at least in my own mind. No one could ever convince me otherwise. And Elvis would be 74 (75 in January!), and the guy(s) at the Memorial and Funeral were NOT anywhere near that old. They also did not look a thing like the guy in that video who is supposedly Elvis.

Interesting video....but I don't believe for a second it's Elvis.
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Post by: katson45 on December 22, 2009, 04:01:10 AM
just to clarify a point...i love elvis then and still..i'm 50   i also love mj since i first saw him  on ed sullivan. i was 9..maybe not all mj fans hate elvis fans..maybe we just know 'real' spiritually gifted people when we see them.
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Post by: watthhel on December 22, 2009, 04:08:25 AM
makes me smile..... Ive posted a video over the similarities in both cases. I was not loved for it. But now I have a big smile.  :D
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Post by: Ninanina on December 22, 2009, 05:15:05 AM
Quote from: "watthhel"
makes me smile..... Ive posted a video over the similarities in both cases. I was not loved for it. But now I have a big smile.  :D

We had a great thread on MJHD about the parallels - did you post there as well? The similarities are very strong - even Michael's last home was literally across the street from Elvis house :-D

Thanks for the video - it's great!
It's not hatman and I don't know, if I believe that Elvis helped Michael personally, but of course it may be.
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Post by: XspeechlessX on December 22, 2009, 06:10:34 AM
:shock:

Oh

My

Goshh.

Was that in 2008?

Wth.... I just cant get my head around that !
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Post by: XspeechlessX on December 22, 2009, 06:17:09 AM
1. Elvis Presley's custom-made coffin weighed 900 pounds. Funeral attendants reported that the air around it was unusually cool, leading to suspicion of a built-in AC unit to keep a wax body (i.e. replica of Elvis' corpse) cool;

2. The face presented to the mourners featured oddly arched eyebrows and a pug nose, even though Elvis had undergone plastic surgery (a nose job) to elongate his rather Native American-looking nose into a classical one for his movie career in Hollywood;

3. Elvis weighed approximately 250 pounds at the time of his "death", but his death certificate reduced this to a mere 170 pounds, in keeping with the appearance of the wax body;[citation needed]

4. Elvis was a karate expert with an 8th degree black belt, so his hands were visibly calloused, whereas the body laid in the coffin had soft and pudgy, rather effeminate hands;[citation needed]

5. One of the trademark Presley sideburns came off because the wax body was seen to be "sweating", i.e. melting, and a hairdresser later reported gluing it back on;[citation needed]

6. Two hours after the public announcement of Elvis' death, a man who looked like a dead ringer for Elvis purchased a plane ticket for Buenos Aires under the name of John Burrows, an alias Elvis had used on several occasions, and one that was reported in government documents;[citation needed]

7. A number of Elvis' most prized books such as his Bible, Chiro's Book of Numbers, and the Autobiography of a Yogi all disappeared after his alleged death, never to be recovered;[citation needed]

8. Elvis' record company RCA showed uncanny foresight by releasing millions of his recordings and merchandise, and his manager Colonel Tom Parker was spotted wearing a pair of Hawaiian shorts on the day of the funeral, a sign of remarkable disrespect in any culture, if it had not been for the fact that he had no reason to mourn [19];[citation needed]

9. Two days before his alleged death, Elvis called a lady friend named Miss Foster to tell her he had canceled his upcoming tour and that she should not believe anything she would read about him. A polygraph test described in "Elvis, Where Are You?" showed that she was not lying;[citation needed]

10. A former paramour named Lucy de Barbin received a single rose in the mail on the day after Elvis' alleged death with a card identifying the sender as "El Lancelot", her secret pet name for Elvis, unbeknownst to anyone else;[citation needed]

11. Elvis was fascinated by Numerology - adding the numbers contained in the date of his alleged death (16 August 1977) yields 2001, the title of his favorite movie in which the hero plans his immortality in the bathroom;[citation needed]

12. To this day, no one has ever stepped forward to collect Elvis Presley's life insurance policy;[citation needed]

13. Graphology experts have proven that the signature on his death certificate is Elvis' own handwriting;[citation needed]

14. On his last concert tour in the summer of 1977, Elvis regularly quipped that although he did not look his best right now, he would look good in his coffin [2].[citation needed]

15. A certified psychiatrist and practising physician from Kansas City named Dr. Donald Hinton (not to be confused with Elvis impersonator Don Hinton) would testify in a court of law that his book "The Truth About Elvis Aron Presley: In His Own Words" was co-written with "Jesse" (Elvis' assumed new identity under the name of his stillborn twin brother) and contains nothing but the truth, as proven by a lie detector test [3];

16. Dr Hinton is in possession of Elvis memorabilia such as a pair of cufflinks presented to Elvis by his former girlfriend Ann-Margret and pajamas given to him by Muhammad Ali[4];

17. A half-sister of Elvis' named Eliza Alice Presley has stepped forward to confirm the existence of "Jesse", as proven by DNA tests [5];

18. All photographs taken at the death scene have mysteriously disappeared, as have the toxicology reports;[citation needed]

19. Elvis' valuable jewellery and photographs of Priscilla Presley and Lisa Marie Presley were missing from Graceland




For me thats it. Elvis is alive.
Wow my views on that changed quick. :shock:
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Post by: foralltime on December 22, 2009, 06:32:49 AM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
I have to admit Ive always believed Elvis was dead. Now I have to admit Im interested to hearing other sides to this...

Same here but watching the video makes me curious to. Does anybody now if there already has been a followup on this. I watched the hatman video's again but i can not make much of it.
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Post by: Harleyblonde on December 22, 2009, 06:33:43 AM
First of all I must say that Elvis was not a racist-far from it. It fact most people when they heard his music thought he was black until they saw him, no white man had at that time performed with a black feel to to music as Elvis did. He admired and was influenced by many black artists and loved gospel.
     Although I do believe Elvis hoaxed his death-as do both my Mum and Gran the guy at the funeral was Rick Baker. As someone pointed out Evvis could well be dead now if he didn't die all those years ago as he would be in his 70s and he wasn't in the best of health.
     So are we to assume that Elvis was at Michaels funeral and also Michael was Blonde lady? Sorry but am finding this really funny! Was Lord Lucan there?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 22, 2009, 06:40:36 AM
with elvis i do not think he faked his death but that coffin picture was of a waxwork .when elvis died he was out of shape so i no that coffin picture is fake
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Post by: itsall4love on December 22, 2009, 06:44:33 AM
I've never gotten into the "Elvis death hoax", so I can't exclude the possibility. That video got me interested, oh and also XspeechlessX 's post from above.  I mean WOW, if that's true :shock:
As for Elvis being Hatman, can't tell yet. The hair is similar but there's a lot more to consider. Interesting topic, OP!!!
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Post by: foralltime on December 22, 2009, 06:49:40 AM
Quote from: "Harleyblonde"
First of all I must say that Elvis was not a racist-far from it. It fact most people when they heard his music thought he was black until they saw him, no white man had at that time performed with a black feel to to music as Elvis did. He admired and was influenced by many black artists and loved gospel.
     Although I do believe Elvis hoaxed his death-as do both my Mum and Gran the guy at the funeral was Rick Baker. As someone pointed out Evvis could well be dead now if he didn't die all those years ago as he would be in his 70s and he wasn't in the best of health.
     So are we to assume that Elvis was at Michaels funeral and also Michael was Blonde lady? Sorry but am finding this really funny! Was Lord Lucan there?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

WOW and i tought I had it figured out, please don't tell me that I have to start all over again  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 07:30:25 AM
Quote from: "Sangre"
I still have a hard time believing Elvis actually faked his death. Besides, I would highly doubt he would help Michael Jackson.

Even if Elvis did fake his own death, I think he is really dead by now.

im sorry to all the elvis fans out there for what i'm about to say cuz i know whats it like to be made out to be crazy thinking Mj is still alive. but I have to agree. I don't believe Elvis is with us any longer. I could be very wrong, though.
that white haired old man, IMO, didn't look like Elvis.

Maybe i should do more research on the death of Elvis but I just don't think he would have had the type of means that Mj has to pull off sucha hoax.

I hope I have not hurt any Elvis fans out there cuz like I said I now know whats it like to be put down and made out to be crazy when I talk about Mj possibly faking his death.

Always with L.O.V.E. :D
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Post by: larab on December 22, 2009, 07:47:26 AM
hm..interesting.
maybe Lisa told Michael the truth(whatever it is)..but I gotta say: I don't really believe he faked his death.
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Post by: Eva R on December 22, 2009, 07:59:26 AM
I remember an interview with Lisa after his 'death' that she says that they talked about her father a lot and about that faking his death stuff. Michael said he was interested in that or something.
But I don't think Elvis faked his death. Elvis has a real funeral and a real grave. With his name and stuff. Michael's grave has not even Michael's name on it.. FAKE :)
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Post by: XspeechlessX on December 22, 2009, 08:18:24 AM
Quote from: "Eva R"
I remember an interview with Lisa after his 'death' that she says that they talked about her father a lot and about that faking his death stuff. Michael said he was interested in that or something.
But I don't think Elvis faked his death. Elvis has a real funeral and a real grave. With his name and stuff. Michael's grave has not even Michael's name on it.. FAKE :)

hmm... true bu the name on Elvis's grave is spelt wrong....Him being such a big star i dont think they would have made a mistake like that....
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Post by: Eva R on December 22, 2009, 08:19:30 AM
Quote from: "XspeechlessX"
Quote from: "Eva R"
I remember an interview with Lisa after his 'death' that she says that they talked about her father a lot and about that faking his death stuff. Michael said he was interested in that or something.
But I don't think Elvis faked his death. Elvis has a real funeral and a real grave. With his name and stuff. Michael's grave has not even Michael's name on it.. FAKE :)

hmm... true bu the name on Elvis's grave is spelt wrong....Him being such a big star i dont think they would have made a mistake like that....
really? wow yeah that's kinda weird yeah :S
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Post by: mjboogie on December 22, 2009, 08:25:20 AM
Guys... ummmmm I am going to say this. IMO, there are not nearly as many inconsisitencies sorrounding Elvis's death as there are MJ's death. Not nearly! Also , lets all keep in mind.....Elvis had an open casket (wax or not!) MJ on the other hand did not.... and you know? I don't care what anyone else says... when you are a world wide known celebrity (such as MJ) there should have been some type of viewing for the public .... something... we go back to Elvis and James Brown (world celebrities) both publicly viewed by the fans (sooo many loved them! Fans!) Honestly, if proper security is present believe me nobody would try to take the body, or touch it or anything. Just like James Brown, they had security men at the Apollo when people lined up to view him!! Comeone!!! we could not see MJ? Unless he was not viewable. :cry:
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Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 08:35:50 AM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Guys... ummmmm I am going to say this. IMO, there are not nearly as many inconsisitencies sorrounding Elvis's death as there are MJ's death. Not nearly! Also , lets all keep in mind.....Elvis had an open casket (wax or not!) MJ on the other hand did not.... and you know? I don't care what anyone else says... when you are a world wide known celebrity (such as MJ) there should have been some type of viewing for the public .... something... we go back to Elvis and James Brown (world celebrities) both publicly viewed by the fans (sooo many loved them! Fans!) Honestly, if proper security is present believe me nobody would try to take the body, or touch it or anything. Just like James Brown, they had security men at the Apollo when people lined up to view him!! Comeone!!! we could not see MJ? Unless he was not viewable. :cry:


yep even the famous tejano singer (i mentioned some where else) named Selena who was sadly murdered, even she (who didn't exactly have the same level of celebrity status such as Michael JOE Jackson) had a viewing. James Brown, Elvis Presley, The Pope all had viewings, and were shown on television.
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Post by: Lou on December 22, 2009, 08:48:53 AM
I know nothing about Elvis, I was just a little baby when he died, and I never believed he faked his death, because my mother told me they showed an open casket, so it was not possible that it was faked. What I ask now is: why did Elvis decide to fake his death? Has someone ever explained it? And has his family ever denied these rumours publicly?? Just out of curiosity, if any of you can help me on it, thank you in advance! :)
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Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on December 22, 2009, 09:33:10 AM
WOOOOW!!!! No friggin way!!!

I have no words at the moment!!

BUT....the old man shown holding Lisa'a baby....could it be her husbands father perhaps??? I dont know what his dad looks like but I know her hubby is rather odd looking...
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Post by: Harleyblonde on December 22, 2009, 09:52:15 AM
Quote from: "XspeechlessX"
Quote from: "Eva R"
I remember an interview with Lisa after his 'death' that she says that they talked about her father a lot and about that faking his death stuff. Michael said he was interested in that or something.
But I don't think Elvis faked his death. Elvis has a real funeral and a real grave. With his name and stuff. Michael's grave has not even Michael's name on it.. FAKE :)

hmm... true bu the name on Elvis's grave is spelt wrong....Him being such a big star i dont think they would have made a mistake like that....
Yes-and up to this day the wrong spelling has never been corrected. When you delve into the death of Elvis there are many inconsistences. I think Michael would have specified that whenever he passed he would have wanted a funeral similar to James Brown's where the masses of fans were able to show their respects, Michaels was just the opposite. I also think there was no sort of trickery regarding Michaels body in the casket due to the doubts of the body in the casket of Elvis. people have been pointing out  doubts about the  Elvis body in the casket-even Elvis's own cousins so I can imagine Michael was aware of this and that is the reason why we saw no "body". BTW-Michael had a real funeral-well as real as Elvis's!  :lol:
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Post by: mjfull on December 22, 2009, 09:53:56 AM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Guys... ummmmm I am going to say this. IMO, there are not nearly as many inconsisitencies sorrounding Elvis's death as there are MJ's death. Not nearly! Also , lets all keep in mind.....Elvis had an open casket (wax or not!) MJ on the other hand did not.... and you know? I don't care what anyone else says... when you are a world wide known celebrity (such as MJ) there should have been some type of viewing for the public .... something... we go back to Elvis and James Brown (world celebrities) both publicly viewed by the fans (sooo many loved them! Fans!) Honestly, if proper security is present believe me nobody would try to take the body, or touch it or anything. Just like James Brown, they had security men at the Apollo when people lined up to view him!! Comeone!!! we could not see MJ? Unless he was not viewable. :cry:

But Latoya said he was very handsome in his casket !!! :-) So, the problem was not that he wasn't viewable... I assume that the problem was that... he was not in the casket at all... :-)
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Post by: MJ-Fan on December 22, 2009, 10:37:40 AM
IF Elvis faked his death (I'm not really sure..) then maybe that's why Lisa Marie keeps saying 'Michael knew he was going to die like my father' .. :S
Sorry if this has been mentioned, I didn't read all the comments ;p
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Post by: lotus_sutra on December 22, 2009, 10:48:47 AM
Wow!  Thank you for posting this video  :o ...the most interesting part to me was the reporter stating that 'she felt like Alice In Wonderland looking down the rabbit hole'!!!!  This movie coming out with Depp on 'March 5th' has stirred my imagination, Jordies girlfriend has a song attached to the movie trailer and now this  :shock: !!!  Am I heading down my own rabbit trail? :lol:
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Post by: CC on December 22, 2009, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: "MJ-Fan"
IF Elvis faked his death (I'm not really sure..) then maybe that's why Lisa Marie keeps saying 'Michael knew he was going to die like my father' .. :S
Sorry if this has been mentioned, I didn't read all the comments ;p

WHEN SHE SAIS THAT? SHE REALLY SAIS THAT? OMG! :o
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Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 11:02:19 AM
Quote from: "MJ-Fan"
IF Elvis faked his death (I'm not really sure..) then maybe that's why Lisa Marie keeps saying 'Michael knew he was going to die like my father' .. :S
Sorry if this has been mentioned, I didn't read all the comments ;p

It makes alot of sense, if thats the case.
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Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 11:41:15 AM
Quote from: "lotus_sutra"
Wow!  Thank you for posting this video  :o ...the most interesting part to me was the reporter stating that 'she felt like Alice In Wonderland looking down the rabbit hole'!!!!  This movie coming out with Depp on 'March 5th' has stirred my imagination, Jordies girlfriend has a song attached to the movie trailer and now this  :shock: !!!  Am I heading down my own rabbit trail? :lol:


wait jordies girlfriend?

who's jordie?
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Post by: XspeechlessX on December 22, 2009, 12:12:57 PM
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "MJ-Fan"
IF Elvis faked his death (I'm not really sure..) then maybe that's why Lisa Marie keeps saying 'Michael knew he was going to die like my father' .. :S
Sorry if this has been mentioned, I didn't read all the comments ;p

WHEN SHE SAIS THAT? SHE REALLY SAIS THAT? OMG! :o

yeah yeah she said that.... i thought about that too...

"Michael Jackson's ex-wife, Lisa Marie Presley, has revealed on her blog that Michael knew he would die like her father, Elvis Presley.

Elvis Presley died August 16, 1977 due to health problems from drug use. Lisa Marie and Michael married in 1993 and divorced less than two years later.

"He Knew," she writes, "Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general.

"I can't recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.

"At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, 'I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did.'

"I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that."
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Post by: dragonflylilies on December 22, 2009, 12:43:29 PM
When Elvis died, there was a lot of people that thought he faked his death.  I believe that he did, if he didn't, then why didn't anyone cash in the life insurance policy.  Also, back then they didn't have the internet like we do.  People may have talked about all the inconsistencies but they didn't have a network to post to everyone all over the world.  We do!  They just talked to other people about it and if one didn't believe then the other was persuaded in that direction as well.
Even though the picture was of an older person, the facial features remained the same.  That person's cheek bones resembled that of Elvis.  I could be wrong, but this is just my opinion on this matter.
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Post by: Lou on December 22, 2009, 01:07:08 PM
Hmm... but if he has the same face features nowadays, it means he didn't change his face and was able to go out without being recognized... and now he allows to be photographed without any kind of disguise... just a thought. I'm still not sure if I can believe that Elvis faked his death. Does someone know if his family denied this rumours publicly???? :?:
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Post by: See on December 22, 2009, 01:15:40 PM
When the hat man first was noticed and was being discussed, a guy who claimed he was investigating the death of Elvis posted a recent picture of elvis in a fedora head (at least his team believd the man was Elvis) and compaird it to "our" hat man... they were kinda simmelar. But since the old MJDH forum is gone with its content I would not know how to find it back...
Ow en BTW there are alot of simmelarities between the death of Elvis and Michael I did make a topic on that
http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jac ... -t2131.htm (http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jackson-elvis-presley-f53/the-2-kings-t2131.htm)

Especially the Alpha1 they both seem to have, with is a very rear genetic condition.

Ow en before I forget, does any body remember JCC and the part of princess grace bla bla...
Well Princess Grace is reffering to Lisa Marie!
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Post by: Infinitylady on December 22, 2009, 01:21:02 PM
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I don't care what anyone else says... when you are a world wide known celebrity (such as MJ) there should have been some type of viewing for the public .... something... we go back to Elvis and James Brown (world celebrities) both publicly viewed by the fans (sooo many loved them! Fans!) Honestly, if proper security is present believe me nobody would try to take the body, or touch it or anything. Just like James Brown, they had security men at the Apollo when people lined up to view him!! Comeone!!! we could not see MJ? Unless he was not viewable.  

I agree with you on this all the way!!

Even President Ford body was veiwable for several days on TV!
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Post by: LiteEyeZ22 on December 22, 2009, 02:18:00 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
Quote from: "LiteEyeZ22"
my dad told me Elvis was 1 of the bigest racist

 :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. ELVIS WAS NEVER RACIST. HE LOVED BLACK PEOPLE AND HE GOT INSPIRATION FROM THEM. At least thats my interpetation..  :shock:




Ok some of u pple did not fully understand nor did ya'll READ my full Comment.......i said My dad told me he was 1 of the biggest racist (Probably tabloid Junk).....i was saying that my dad prolly heard that from Tabloid so Calm Down!!! As ive stated i dont know Much about Elvis so i can not Judge him OK....So Please b4 ya jump down my throat Understand and Read my Damn Comment.........and i will stick to my belief and say I dont Feel Elvis would help MJ thas just me....and actually i have heard from a college professor who IS white that Elvis did steal black peoples music because it was around the time Blacks really didnt have much play on the Radio.....But as Always Theres 3 sides to a story...Elvis, The People, and the Truth......IM NUETRAL.......i have nothing against Elvis and i like some of his Music but My concern about him "faking his death" is limited....My main Concern and and always will b MICHAEL so think wat ya'll want...........

and BTW that guy is wy to young to b "Elvis" so that theory is shot dead...
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Post by: LiteEyeZ22 on December 22, 2009, 02:30:35 PM
Quote from: "roxy101"
since he is in fact the one that introduced Michael and Lisa Marie when she was ten...


wait i thought Elvis died wen lisa was 9???
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Post by: StripedFeline on December 22, 2009, 02:31:38 PM
Nahh ... Lisa was six and Michael was sixteen. I think, or so I've read recently.
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Post by: StripedFeline on December 22, 2009, 02:33:37 PM
Sorry for the double-post, but my last post was centered around their ages for when Lisa first went to one of his concerts.
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Post by: Kirsche on December 22, 2009, 05:01:05 PM
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
with elvis i do not think he faked his death but that coffin picture was of a waxwork .when elvis died he was out of shape so i no that coffin picture is fake



Right. At the last time of his life he gained a lot of weight, because of pills and alcohol... And look at the coffin picture, it looks like Elvis in his younger years....


I never believed Elvis faked his death....but maybe because it was just not my time....IDK ...it's very  :shock:
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Post by: i_need YoU on December 22, 2009, 11:18:54 PM
i think elvis could easily fake his death because he had MANY impersonators...Michael Jackson doesnt have many impersonators from his recent age. thats why i think elvis was able to fake it and go into hidingbecuz if someone said "i saw elvis!!" they would just say it was an impersonater. Michael however doesnt hv many impersonaters from his most recent "look"...does this make sense? im at a loss right now. Now if elvis were still alive he could go where ever he pleased because no one knew what he looked like at such an age...

i am really trying to figure out how michael can get away without being spotted for sooo long with him being so famous!!! gosh this is so frustrating, i hope im just not in a major denial right now!!! ahh
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Post by: deedee75 on December 22, 2009, 11:43:06 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
Quote from: "LiteEyeZ22"
my dad told me Elvis was 1 of the bigest racist

 :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. ELVIS WAS NEVER RACIST. HE LOVED BLACK PEOPLE AND HE GOT INSPIRATION FROM THEM. At least thats my interpetation..  :shock:

My dad and family said the same thing about Elvis
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Post by: ILuvUMoreMJ on December 23, 2009, 07:05:40 AM
Quote from: "i_need YoU"
i think elvis could easily fake his death because he had MANY impersonators...Michael Jackson doesnt have many impersonators from his recent age. thats why i think elvis was able to fake it and go into hidingbecuz if someone said "i saw elvis!!" they would just say it was an impersonater. Michael however doesnt hv many impersonaters from his most recent "look"...does this make sense? im at a loss right now. Now if elvis were still alive he could go where ever he pleased because no one knew what he looked like at such an age...

i am really trying to figure out how michael can get away without being spotted for sooo long with him being so famous!!! gosh this is so frustrating, i hope im just not in a major denial right now!!! ahh

That's so true about all the impersonators!  MJ wouldn't have the same luxury, unfortunately.  

Does anyone have proof that Elvis' life insurance policy was never claimed?
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Post by: ValeNova on December 23, 2009, 07:43:50 AM
Quote from: "deedee75"
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
Quote from: "LiteEyeZ22"
my dad told me Elvis was 1 of the bigest racist

 :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:  :o  :shock:

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME. ELVIS WAS NEVER RACIST. HE LOVED BLACK PEOPLE AND HE GOT INSPIRATION FROM THEM. At least thats my interpetation..  :shock:

My dad and family said the same thing about Elvis

You must be kidding... Elvis was groundbreaking just for the fact that he incorporated black music into his music, making black music available to all. How can someone even consider him to have been a racist. I tend to think that of the people claiming Elvis to be racist, to be quite honest...
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Post by: serendipity on December 23, 2009, 09:33:08 AM
Oh wow! This is incredible! Thanks for posting this vid! Great job! :)
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