Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Persons Of Interest => Legal Advisors => John Branca & John McClain => Topic started by: 2good2btrue on May 22, 2011, 01:52:26 AM
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Things are really heating up now...Hopefully, the FAKE WILL will be exposed soon...and the corruption behind the scenes by the FAKE excutives....I know for a fact, this is unfolding as it should...even though these fans are fighting for Justice and believe MJ was murdered..
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A mutual settlement has not been reached by Estate and HTWF. Branca is fully aware HTWF are NOT going to settle!! Estate have requested the court enforce the settlement, Hearing scheduled for mid June.. BUT WAIT, Meanwhile Branca has transferred the company entity HTWF out of Melissa Johnson's name???? Its obvious he has certain contacts in the right places!! AND Branca has also began to transfer trademarks out of MelJ name???
This is to show you what a crook Branca is!! Thug!!! HE WILL HAVE TO TRANSFER THESE BACK!! THIS IS CRIMINAL!!!! SEEMS BRANCA IS VERY CONFIDENT, AFTER ALL HE DID GET AWAY WITH THE FAKE WILL!!![attachment=0:twfenagk]MJ 2010 Weitzman and Branca.jpg[/attachment:twfenagk]
Whatever Branca did to Michael, WE do not have first hand accounts of, BUT THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE YOU EYES,,, C.O.R.R.U.P.T.I.O.N AT ITS BEST
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http://twitter.com/#!/TeamMichael777 (http://twitter.com/#!/TeamMichael777)
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Cascio tracks - NEW THEORETICAL 'EVIDENCE'
A lot has been said about the Cascio tracks. The truth is three of these tracks are on the "MICHAEL" album, released around December 10th, and 9 others could pop up on future albums. A lot has been said about who the singer is, with fans having taken a stance on who they think it is. Something we lack is background info on the controversy. Cartman, myself and a few others have been looking into this and we've come across something that hasn't been mentioned before and is definitely significant to this controversy.
We've all seen Eddie Cascio and Teddy Riley on Oprah. We've also seen a statement from Howard Weitzman in name of a lot of people. This statement is known to leave out certain information on certain subjects, like not mentioning that Cory Rooney and Taryll Jackson were also at the listening session and did not agree it was Michael singing. But there's one inconsistency that hasn't been mentioned. Let's take a look at two parts of this statement:
After the tracks were submitted to Sony, three of these Cascio songs were selected to be on the album, and “Breaking News” was one of the three. The day after the submission and selection of the album tracks, for the very first time, the authenticity of Michael’s vocals on the Cascio tracks was questioned.
Because of these questions, I was immediately asked by co-Executors John Branca and John McClain to conduct an investigation regarding the authenticity of the lead vocals on the Cascio tracks.
Just to be absolutely certain, I also contacted Jason Malachi, a young singer who some persons had wrongfully alleged was a “soundalike” singer that was hired to sing on the Cascio tracks, and I confirmed that he had no involvement with this project whatsoever.
These two statements are presented separated in the statement, when they should've been put together. You see, that last statement is intentionally vague when it comes to the word "persons". Is he talking about the fans after hearing the "Breaking News" stream or people from inside the Estate? I personally thought he always meant the fans, but let me tell you right here, right now: it means people inside the Estate. We have confirmation that the name "Jason Malachi" was connected with these tracks before the day "Breaking News" premiered.
When Jason Malachi's Facebook page was hacked to display a message saying he confessed, someone called Thaddeus Nauden denied it being posted by Jason. He is Jason's manager. He is the president of "Stage Recordings & Publishing, LLC" and is also Jason's manager. He also blogs. He likes to blog about things that would make him look cool, like being contacted by powerful or important people.
First, just so we're clear it's Nauden that's posting. The profile page:
http://www.blogger.com/profile/10781089282365237302 (http://www.blogger.com/profile/10781089282365237302)
It clearly says "President of Stage Recordings & Publishing.", which is him. Then, here's one statement of his regarding Jason Malachi that should already raise some eyebrows, from November 22nd called "No statement needed.":
http://stagerecordingspublishing.blo...nt-needed.html (http://stagerecordingspublishing.blo...nt-needed.html)[attachment=1:358602g8]thaddeus1.png[/attachment:358602g8]
Why should Jason Malachi make a statement? People only think he's the actual lead singer on tracks labelled as Michael Jackson tracks. Why would he issue a statement denying that?
But the interesting posts are made sooner. Not a few days after "Breaking News" came out, but a few weeks before.
On October 18th 2010, Thaddeus made a post called "Michael Jackson's Estate and John Branca":
http://stagerecordingspublishing.blo...hn-branca.html (http://stagerecordingspublishing.blo...hn-branca.html)
On that day, Jason Malachi's manager received a call from John Branca. Not Howard Weitzman as the statement above seems to claim, but John Branca, one of the two MJ Estate executors. At least 3 weeks before the release of "Breaking News", Jason Malachi was known as the possible singer of the Cascio tracks within the Estate. Some people think it's ridiculous to think Jason Malachi is on these songs, but the Estate had thought it themselves! The day after that, October 19th, he makes another post, called "Michael Jackson's Estate Part 2.":
http://stagerecordingspublishing.blo...te-part-2.htm (http://stagerecordingspublishing.blo...te-part-2.htm)[attachment=0:358602g8]thaddeus7.png[/attachment:358602g8]
John Branca (and not Howard Weitzman) called him again on that day. To add further credibility to this claim, we cross-reference these blog posts to the source that always got the exclusive news regarding the Cascio tracks: Roger Friedman. Roger Friedman got to report about the existence of the Cascio tracks on May 2nd, the first time these tracks were mentioned. Then there's this article:
"Michael Jackson Album of New songs In Limbo". Date: October 19th!
http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/10/19...songs-in-limbo (http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/10/19...songs-in-limbo)
http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussi ... W-EVIDENCE (http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussion/showthread.php?24826-Cascio-tracks-NEW-EVIDENCE)
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Wow good investigation..I'm asking myself sometimes...if Michael is alive wouldn't he put these people to the "garbage can " where they belong? but as far as i see they get away with their corruption pale/
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Wow good investigation..I'm asking myself sometimes...if Michael is alive wouldn't he put these people to the "garbage can " where they belong? but as far as i see they get away with their corruption pale/
You seem to be unsure if Michael is alive? What makes you say If Michael is alive? How about if ths is why Michael hoaxed his death so he can throw everyone in the garbage? Maybe he knew what they were doing and so he will put them all to jail.. so please Le papillon Bleu do not say IF.. thanks and blessings.
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He is now named the likely suspect for wanting MJ dead for his catalogue...
The Eliminator[attachment=2:kgmw6ro0]branca.PNG[/attachment:kgmw6ro0]
John Branca (and not Howard Weitzman) called him again on that day. To add further credibility to this claim, we cross-reference these blog posts to the source that always got the exclusive news regarding the Cascio tracks: Roger Friedman. Roger Friedman got to report about the existence of the Cascio tracks on May 2nd, the first time these tracks were mentioned. Then there's this article:
"Michael Jackson Album of New songs In Limbo". Date: October 19th!
http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/10/19...songs-in-limbo (http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/10/19...songs-in-limbo)
That album of Michael Jackson‘s unreleased material?
I’ll tell you what: it’s in limbo.
Later this week we may get a sharper picture of what’s going on. But this much I’ve surmised from talks with various sources.
The best material available really comes from those sessions with Eddie Cascio in New Jersey circa summer 2007. Some of the songs were already written by Eddie’s brother Frank Cascio and recorded as demos with a local singer named Bobby Ewing. Michael put his vocals on them during that time he stayed with the Cascios in New Jersey.
At first there was a lot of skepticism about the tracks. I’m told that co-executor John McClain questioned whether the vocals were really Michael’s, or faked. But they are Michael’s. And they will be needed to round out the selections.
Teddy Riley and a couple of other producers have worked to fix up the Cascio tracks for release.
McClain was also working on tracks. It’s unclear how these have gone. I’m told, not so well. Many of them are outtakes from “Invincible,” an album that wasn’t so good in the first place. And no one’s bothered to approach Michael’s engineer, Bruce Swedien, about tracks from “Thriller” or “Bad” he might have in his archives.
There’s truly confusion now in the inner circle about how to proceed. Sony is waiting for delivery but there’s no album art or concept.
As for a cover: I am told McClain commissioned one a la “Sgt. Pepper” with a montage of drawings or caricatures of people in Michael’s life whom he admired. Funny: several lawyers were jammed in among Martin Luther King and Marvin Gaye. McClain’s picture, sources say, was larger than most of the others.
Needless to say, that’s been scrapped.
The day after Jason Malachi's manager gets a call from the Estate, the very first article about the vocal controversy appears. The very first article mentioning John McClain, the other Estate executor, having doubts about the vocal tracks on the Cascio songs. Is this date a coincidence or did John McClain realise that it was Jason Malachi singing at this point in time? Jackie Jackson confirmed that he and John McClain wanted to have certain tracks removed from the album for weeks on November 9th, three weeks after this date:
https://twitter.com/#!/JackieJackson5/s ... 4249017344 (https://twitter.com/#!/JackieJackson5/status/2040574249017344)[attachment=1:kgmw6ro0]jackie.PNG[/attachment:kgmw6ro0]
Roger Friedman claims John McClain was adamant right up to the deal for the album that it wasn't Michael, here's "Michael Jackson: Deal For New Album Cut Late Last Night":
http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/04...nd-album-cover (http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/04...nd-album-cover)
Michael Jackson: Deal For New Album Cut Late Last Night[attachment=0:kgmw6ro0]friedman2.png[/attachment:kgmw6ro0]
Here’s full cover by artist Kadir Nelson
Yes, the "More" part says in the end he went ahead with the deal, which is obvious because there are 3 Cascio tracks on the album. But if Jackie Jackson says on November 9th that he and John McClain had insisted to have them removed for weeks (not "insisted", but "have insisted" in his wording, which means he still wasn't fully on board), I'm more inclined to believe him than Roger Friedman on that. After all, when you hear Jason Malachi in those tracks, you don't just go back you know.
Back to Thaddeus now. After being contacted by the Estate, Thaddeus decided to generate a bit of buzz (despite no one reading his blog) for the new Michael Jackson track "Breaking News" and later reviewed the "MICHAEL" album - of which he of course loved "Keep Your Head Up":
http://stagerecordingspublishing.blo...l-jackson.htm (http://stagerecordingspublishing.blo...l-jackson.htm)
This “Breaking News”–also the title of the first single from Michael Jackson‘s new album, written and produced by Eddie Cascio.
Sony Music just sent out a cover picture for Michael Jackson‘s album — called “Michael”– set for December 14th.
Yesterday I was told there was no deal brokered yet between all the fractious parties in the Jackson camp. Co executor John McClain was still claiming that the vocals on some of the tracks weren’t Michael’s.
Sony seems to disagree. They’ve made their move.
MORE: The album will include at least four or five of the “Cascio” tracks, produced mostly by Teddy Riley, including the single. Apparently the estate settled all internal political issues, as outlined here first and exclusively (thanks TMZ for mucking around in our area).
The decision was made by all parties finally at 11pm last night.
And so it goes.
More to come, of course…
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OK....John Branca again.
If Michael fired him, how comes Michael hired him again a few weeks before his death?
I have a strange feeling about John Branca. And he looks really old now in those pictures.
I wonder what's Branca's position regarding Michael's death and the hoax. The Estate has to be in the hoax. I can't imagine Michael left everything in their hands and they know nothing about the hoax.
Is it possible Branca to not be in the hoax?
They made money for Michael after death, they paid the creditors and so on.
I don't understand what happened to Michael's money from before TII, he lost his money or he "lost" his money to appear broke at the time of death?
ahhhhhhhh crash/ crash/ crash/
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Branca has always been on my shit list. I don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth since the will. Just don’t. How screwed is he gonna be when Michael reappears and approaches him about its authenticity to his lying face? I would love to see his face turn ashen white as the “ghosts” and the “skeletons" come front and center to haunt him moonwalk_/ .
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He is now named the likely suspect for wanting MJ dead for his catalogue...
Ok guys, let's clear things up forever. Wasn't there a theory that Michael did know what he was doing by hiring back Branca 2 weeks before his "death"? So, now there is controversial theory against first theory. What happened to the first one?
If the will was fake, why Jacksons have started to challenge it, then they stopped and withdraw complaint filed to the court?Do you really believe if will is fake, made up by Branca or whoever tried to kill Michael, Jacksons would calm down and let it go? I don't think so. What I think is Michael did know that Branca would run his business well and hired him back, put him in the will he drafted right before his "death", and now watching what and how he is running his estate until he returns or maybe not.
If you stick with new theory posted here, then it looks like you agree that Michael is dead and whoever killed him drafted fake will and lives happily fooling Jacksons and MJ. Again, I don't think so.
I want to understand what is the final theory about will and Branca.
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I would like to know his ethnical origin....his mother was Barbara Werle, his father Branca...Branca doesn't sound like an english name :? The same with Weitzman
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OK....John Branca again.
If Michael fired him, how comes Michael hired him again a few weeks before his death?
Perhaps to put him back in the loop as a means of allowing him to show his hand.
I wonder what's Branca's position regarding Michael's death and the hoax. The Estate has to be in the hoax.
It seems that the target (if there is one, or more) would need to be ignorant of the death hoax in order to feel free to show his or her true colors.
or he "lost" his money to appear broke at the time of death?
Sounds plausible.
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OK....John Branca again.
If Michael fired him, how comes Michael hired him again a few weeks before his death?
Perhaps to put him back in the loop as a means of allowing him to show his hand.
I wonder what's Branca's position regarding Michael's death and the hoax. The Estate has to be in the hoax.
It seems that the target (if there is one, or more) would need to be ignorant of the death hoax in order to feel free to show his or her true colors.
or he "lost" his money to appear broke at the time of death?
Sounds plausible.
Interesting thoughts. Branca could be a target. After all he dissapointed Michael when playing in 2 opposite teams at the same time.
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He is now named the likely suspect for wanting MJ dead for his catalogue...
Ok guys, let's clear things up forever. Wasn't there a theory that Michael did know what he was doing by hiring back Branca 2 weeks before his "death"? So, now there is controversial theory against first theory. What happened to the first one?
If the will was fake, why Jacksons have started to challenge it, then they stopped and withdraw complaint filed to the court?Do you really believe if will is fake, made up by Branca or whoever tried to kill Michael, Jacksons would calm down and let it go? I don't think so. What I think is Michael did know that Branca would run his business well and hired him back, put him in the will he drafted right before his "death", and now watching what and how he is running his estate until he returns or maybe not.
If you stick with new theory posted here, then it looks like you agree that Michael is dead and whoever killed him drafted fake will and lives happily fooling Jacksons and MJ. Again, I don't think so.
I want to understand what is the final theory about will and Branca.
I simply don’t believe that Branca was in on the hoax initially and Michael’s will was his claim to fame and had he turned over all of Michael’s important documents years ago, he would not even be in possession of it. Some what evident to me early on in the way he tried to handle Mrs. Jackson. :roll: However, through some turn of events, I think Branca was probably clued in for his own sake and he is trying to make good of the situation before Michael returns and puts his ass on front street. This is surely not the concensus of the group, but that’s my feelings on it because as I said, I never trusted Branca or McClain. It’s a gut feeling.
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Watch this video ... Comment from Joe about Branca in Cannes and saying that Dieter Wiesner IS the manager of Michael ... http://www.twitvid.com/H7NO4
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ok i couldn't hear all of it really well but did i hear that the man who was explaining the details about dieter mentioned this power of attorney that we see the interview of michael saying he does not remember signing and suggestion that he may have been on medication at the time? so is it possible that michael never revoked that power of attorney? what would that mean for everything. would it mean that no one else had the power to set him up for the 02. are we seeing a situation where there is being alot of rope let out in a lot of different directions? ;)
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I’ll say this in regards to anyone impersonating Michael on one track or a thousand no matter how similiar their voices might be. If it ain’t Michael, I DON’T WANT IT. I am in no way, shape, or form interested in a Michael Jackson voice clone. If ever I learn with 100% proof that this Michael cd is indeed NOT MICHAEL, I will break it to pieces and throw it in the trash and file a claim against it. For me, Michael Jackson music is more than just “a voice”. His is a brand, an exclusive, patented brand that no one else has any right to make any claim to fame against by means of impersonating. If Michael Jackson, the REAL Michael Jackson never decides to put his vocals to another song as long as he or I live, then I am satisfied with the authentic music that I already have. I don’t require any more. I’ve got THE BEST. God forbid it ever be revealed with proof that this is a fake. I am loving this cd as a Michael venture, but if it’s EVER proven that the voice is anyone pretending to be Michael, I will drop it like a hot potatoe and never once look back. That’s the bottom line and I mean it from the bottom of my heart.
…John Branca… :roll:
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Ok, once again. I did not say Branca is in hoax and never believed that.
I see 3 options with will:
1. Michael is alive, hired Branca before "death", put Branca involuntarily in the will to run his Estate while he is in hoax.
2. Michael is dead. Will is forged by killers and put Branca's name for pupose.
3. Michael is dead and the will is real, sritten by him.
Option 2 does not sound meaningful because Jacksons started challenge the will, then they gave up. Why?
An answer for WHY option 1 or 3 more appropriate. But since we know, that will itself has suspicious data, then option 1 is the one.
As for HOW Branca runs Michael's Estate, has nothing to do with whether MJ is dead or alive, will is legit or not. I think Branca may suspect that Michael is not dead.
To me, Branca runs MJ's estate very well.
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But in the interview with Joe Jackson, he says.....Dieter Weisner FIRED Branca.. and that HE is Michaels manager???
So who is telling the truth.
There are TWO WILLS...from what I read.
If Branca was doing no good, of course MJ would have hired him back before his death. Its a set up in my opinion.
Catch them in the act...
Watch this video ... posted earlier......Comment from Joe about Branca in Cannes and saying that Dieter Wiesner IS the manager of Michael ... http://www.twitvid.com/H7NO4mac5k (http://www.twitvid.com/H7NO4mac5k)
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But in the interview with Joe Jackson, he says.....Dieter Weisner FIRED Branca.. and that HE is Michaels manager???
So who is telling the truth.
There are TWO WILLS...from what I read.
If Branca was doing no good, of course MJ would have hired him back before his death. Its a set up in my opinion.
Catch them in the act...
Watch this video ... posted earlier......Comment from Joe about Branca in Cannes and saying that Dieter Wiesner IS the manager of Michael ... http://www.twitvid.com/H7NO4mac5k (http://www.twitvid.com/H7NO4mac5k)
To me the MichaelTeam777 is non-believer. Thus, they interpret facts from that perspective, that is, MJ is dead and it was set up, will is not legit, etc, etc. ? THERE WILL NEVER BE CLEAR BLACK OR WHITE STORY ever, ESPECIALLY in MICHAEL'S.The source of info is the problem. MEDIA is a controvesring source of lot's of bullshit & not 100% trustworthy. DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ, REMEMBER? But one thing is clear, if Michael is alive, then option 1 I said above is the one. Otherwise, Michael is dead. If it is set up and MJ did not hire back Branca, then MJ was killed, will was drafted by killer and put in his house. I don't see another explanation. What is the confusion here? If Michael is alive or not, or will is legit or not? I think either way will is not real; if this is a hoax, then will drafted by Michael & it's not real; if Michael is dead, then will drafted by murderer and will is not valid.
I don't remember 2 wills, only one that has a compromising wrong signed date. Jacksons were fighting that Michael was in New York he could not sign the will that day.But then they stopped talking and fighting about that. Why?
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Wow good investigation..I'm asking myself sometimes...if Michael is alive wouldn't he put these people to the "garbage can " where they belong? but as far as i see they get away with their corruption pale/
I don't see you unsure he is alive, i see you just asking yourself. A very logical question. An opinion to it- maybe Michael simply escaped without directing further all things. See "Michael" album story and how the kids clearly stated it was not "daddy's voice". I am sure the kids had not reason to lie, but to stand for their father's truth. Yet, we all heard the album. So maybe he can't pull all strings as we imagine. Probably this "hero" image distorts many of our assumptions. Or not.
so please Le papillon Bleu do not say IF..
How can we ask people here what not to say? It's inappropriate and disregarding to each person's freedom of BEING.
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But in the interview with Joe Jackson, he says.....Dieter Weisner FIRED Branca.. and that HE is Michaels manager???
So who is telling the truth.
There are TWO WILLS...from what I read.
If Branca was doing no good, of course MJ would have hired him back before his death. Its a set up in my opinion.
Catch them in the act...
Watch this video ... posted earlier......Comment from Joe about Branca in Cannes and saying that Dieter Wiesner IS the manager of Michael ... http://www.twitvid.com/H7NO4mac5k (http://www.twitvid.com/H7NO4mac5k)
To me the MichaelTeam777 is non-believer. Thus, they interpret facts from that perspective, that is, MJ is dead and it was set up, will is not legit, etc, etc. ? THERE WILL NEVER BE CLEAR BLACK OR WHITE STORY ever, ESPECIALLY in MICHAEL'S.The source of info is the problem. MEDIA is a controvesring source of lot's of bullshit & not 100% trustworthy. DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ, REMEMBER? But one thing is clear, if Michael is alive, then option 1 I said above is the one. Otherwise, Michael is dead. If it is set up and MJ did not hire back Branca, then MJ was killed, will was drafted by killer and put in his house. I don't see another explanation. What is the confusion here? If Michael is alive or not, or will is legit or not? I think either way will is not real; if this is a hoax, then will drafted by Michael & it's not real; if Michael is dead, then will drafted by murderer and will is not valid.
I don't remember 2 wills, only one that has a compromising wrong signed date. Jacksons were fighting that Michael was in New York he could not sign the will that day.But then they stopped talking and fighting about that. Why?
wasn't the thing about the will supposed to be that al sharpton was the witness that said that michael was with him in new york so he couldn't have been there to sign it? perhaps there is something about what was goin on in new york that was better left alone.idk or perhaps the family started to make waves and then learned something new in the meantime.just me thinkin' out loud.
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Wow good investigation..I'm asking myself sometimes...if Michael is alive wouldn't he put these people to the "garbage can " where they belong? but as far as i see they get away with their corruption pale/
I don't see you unsure he is alive, i see you just asking yourself. A very logical question. An opinion to it- maybe Michael simply escaped without directing further all things. See "Michael" album story and how the kids clearly stated it was not "daddy's voice". I am sure the kids had not reason to lie, but to stand for their father's truth. Yet, we all heard the album. So maybe he can't pull all strings as we imagine. Probably this "hero" image distorts many of our assumptions. Or not.
so please Le papillon Bleu do not say IF..
How can we ask people here what not to say? It's inappropriate and disregarding to each person's freedom of BEING.
heart I agree with you.
Why is it forbiden to express one's honest opinion?
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Oh, I do think this Branca and the estate issue has many answers in it. After all there is always about the money...at least a part of it.
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Thank you Gina and HeartPhantom! someone did not fully understood my question....AND how can i be sooo sure that Michael is alive? only God is sure or his family...or maybe the family is forbidden to know what happened or where is Michael? maybe they are threatened? YOU or i don't know the truth 100% not even 10%...anyway ..sometimes we have to ask ourselves how can Michael do something so BIG (like dying) just to make these pricks pay? he could have done it while he was alive behind their back...when they at least expected? okay i'm kind of done...maybe my brain is over loaded pale/ crash/
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Thank you Gina and HeartPhantom! someone did not fully understood my question....AND how can i be sooo sure that Michael is alive? only God is sure or his family...or maybe the family is forbidden to know what happened or where is Michael? maybe they are threatened? YOU or i don't know the truth 100% not even 10%...anyway ..sometimes we have to ask ourselves how can Michael do something so BIG (like dying) just to make these pricks pay? he could have done it while he was alive behind their back...when they at least expected? okay i'm kind of done...maybe my brain is over loaded pale/ crash/
I think we all are wondering how and why Michael did what he did, or even if he did it.
Its normal behaviour considering we are speculating with mis-information, and media attention.
Only MJ knows the truth.
We see things the way they are, and not all human beings are forgiving. If MJ comes back and the fans have paid alot of money for these books etc, are they going to get angry and request their money back?? Or is this MJ's way of helping the family or compensating them, for participating in the hoax??? They get their careers back, with him out the way. And make money doing it.
I don't believe Michael would do anything so drastic like this, unless he didn't have a choice. !!!
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by Le Papillon Bleu » Sun May 22, 2011 9:13 am
Wow good investigation..I'm asking myself sometimes...if Michael is alive wouldn't he put these people to the "garbage can " where they belong? but as far as i see they get away with their corruption
That’s why all the garbage cans at Carolwood Drive… ;)
viewtopic.php?f=253&t=3945&hilit=trash+cans#p61018 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=3945&hilit=trash+cans#p61018)
I’m trying to connect dots now: remember Latoya saying: “just follow the money trail”
[youtube:1v790rmj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_TpI5W00A[/youtube:1v790rmj]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_TpI5W00A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0_TpI5W00A)
Katherine Jackson hired a new lawyer Perry Sanders. I think he’s also hired to put money trails under the microscope. He’s a sort of investigator as well, I suppose. May be to collect "garbage".
viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18748#p323705 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18748#p323705)
Some things are puzzling me in this case. Why is TMZ, possibly hoax connected, posting bits and pieces of news about The Estate frequently, as if they give us intentionally pieces of a puzzle? There are contradicting motives.
Is it because they expect us to investigate, searching for the truth and bring it out in the open as “speculations” though make people think? If so, why would TMZ do this, because if “the garbage” would know about the speculations that they are under suspicion. TMZ news and our investigation might be obstructive to the hoax, because the “garbage” can’t be catched in the act so to speak. Of course there must be a reason for it, though I can’t figure it out at the moment. Hoax wise I hope things are developing according to plan and that the truth will prevail. Quote 2good2btrue: “Only MJ knows the truth.”.
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Things are really heating up now...Hopefully, the FAKE WILL will be exposed soon...and the corruption behind the scenes by the FAKE excutives....I know for a fact, this is unfolding as it should...even though these fans are fighting for Justice and believe MJ was murdered..
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A mutual settlement has not been reached by Estate and HTWF. Branca is fully aware HTWF are NOT going to settle!! Estate have requested the court enforce the settlement, Hearing scheduled for mid June.. BUT WAIT, Meanwhile Branca has transferred the company entity HTWF out of Melissa Johnson's name???? Its obvious he has certain contacts in the right places!! AND Branca has also began to transfer trademarks out of MelJ name???
This is to show you what a crook Branca is!! Thug!!! HE WILL HAVE TO TRANSFER THESE BACK!! THIS IS CRIMINAL!!!! SEEMS BRANCA IS VERY CONFIDENT, AFTER ALL HE DID GET AWAY WITH THE FAKE WILL!!![attachment=0:94ybef86]MJ 2010 Weitzman and Branca.jpg[/attachment:94ybef86]
Whatever Branca did to Michael, WE do not have first hand accounts of, BUT THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE YOU EYES,,, C.O.R.R.U.P.T.I.O.N AT ITS BEST
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I can't believe no one said this, so I will. Branca is a GOOD guy. The two actions I highlighted in your post are GREAT things! He knows exactly what he is doing to protect Michael Jackson's Heal The World charity. He has contacts, alright, with MICHAEL JACKSON, who OWNS those trademarks AND the BRAND.
Melissa Johnson is the thief and liar who hijacked the trademarks and all of the MJ copyrighted property on the HTW website, and turned it into some kind of a business for profit, as soon as he died. I don't believe it has even done any charity work, since she and her husband helped themselves to MJ's property and took over. She also tries to further jack the court and all his fans, with her online sob story that MJ TOLD her to do this. Do not believe her.
MJ was CEO, and the ONLY one overseeing the business of the charity. While he was up to his eyes in legal problems, being prosecuted for child molestation, the charity was placed on hold and some fee or tax went overlooked, inadvertently. Johnson strategically pounced and stole everything, in the manner of a squatter, which is not legal in business!!
Didn't you guys notice a stark difference in the "flavor" of the HTW website and some logos afraid/ errrr , when he "died"? She is an evil opportunist, without a charitable bone in her body. All MJ's poetry and thoughts that he wrote for people to read openly, she locked up, so that you had to register and give her database your information. Her plan was to have children send in their pennies to finance the "charity", and dutifully, as loyal soldiers in MJ's Army, have their parents purchase all kinds of overpriced stuff to pad her pockets with...She is a thief and a liar. :x
Someone hijacking a charity deserves more than jail time!! :x
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NEW MESSAGE FROM JOHN MCLAIN AND JOHN BRANCA REGARDING HTWF
We have received the following message from John McClain and John Branca, co-executors of the Estate of Michael Jackson:
"Please let the fans know that we are aware of the many questions from the fan community regarding the recent settlement of the HTWF lawsuit. The Estate will need at least ninety days to gather information, as well as all of the property that will be coming back to the Estate from Melissa Johnson and the HTWF.
We want the fans to rest assured that all decisions on the use of a charitable foundation or, as an alternative, making direct contributions to recipient charities, and any and all personnel decisions, will be made with complete regard to Michael’s wishes and Michael’s legacy, which we intend to honor and perpetuate. We also value the opinions of Michael’s fans who, above all, have shown unwavering support for Michael and his legacy.
We therefore want to assure the fans that all actions being taken by the Estate, past, present and future, will be guided by the paramount objective of doing the right thing by Michael."
John McClain and John Branca
Co-Executors
The Estate of Michael Jackson
http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=4904 (http://www.legendarymichaeljackson.nl/?p=4904)
And this video.....from Leonard Rowe: interesting !!!!
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2 ... er-advisor (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/exclusive-video-interview-michael-jacksons-will-fake-says-his-former-advisor)
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If there is going to be a trial, I will sure as hell be glad when they start and get done with it. Maybe I can see things clearer once that part of it is done. Hopefuly some of the dirt in the wash will finally come clean. crash/
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I can't believe no one said this, so I will. Branca is a GOOD guy. The two actions I highlighted in your post are GREAT things! He knows exactly what he is doing to protect Michael Jackson's Heal The World charity. He has contacts, alright, with MICHAEL JACKSON, who OWNS those trademarks AND the BRAND.
Melissa Johnson is the thief and liar who hijacked the trademarks and all of the MJ copyrighted property on the HTW website, and turned it into some kind of a business for profit, as soon as he died. I don't believe it has even done any charity work, since she and her husband helped themselves to MJ's property and took over. She also tries to further jack the court and all his fans, with her online sob story that MJ TOLD her to do this. Do not believe her.
MJ was CEO, and the ONLY one overseeing the business of the charity. While he was up to his eyes in legal problems, being prosecuted for child molestation, the charity was placed on hold and some fee or tax went overlooked, inadvertently. Johnson strategically pounced and stole everything, in the manner of a squatter, which is not legal in business!!
Didn't you guys notice a stark difference in the "flavor" of the HTW website and some logos afraid/ errrr , when he "died"? She is an evil opportunist, without a charitable bone in her body. All MJ's poetry and thoughts that he wrote for people to read openly, she locked up, so that you had to register and give her database your information. Her plan was to have children send in their pennies to finance the "charity", and dutifully, as loyal soldiers in MJ's Army, have their parents purchase all kinds of overpriced stuff to pad her pockets with...She is a thief and a liar. :x
Someone hijacking a charity deserves more than jail time!! :x
two thumbs up, Its Her! i didn't know that Melissa Johnson has enriched herself through HTWF, though i read somewhere here that her HTWF donations totaled only $5,000+ as of 2009, i think. someone also said that right after MJ left, she was busy buying his domains instead of grieving. so why do you think Ms Katherine is on Melissa Johnson's (MJ afraid/ ) side? she's the wild card that made me doubt Branca. is she merely ensuring that she knows what goes on inside and vetoing decisions that further exploit MJ? she even brought the children in :?
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Thank you Gina and HeartPhantom! someone did not fully understood my question....AND how can i be sooo sure that Michael is alive? only God is sure or his family...or maybe the family is forbidden to know what happened or where is Michael? maybe they are threatened? YOU or i don't know the truth 100% not even 10%...anyway ..sometimes we have to ask ourselves how can Michael do something so BIG (like dying) just to make these pricks pay? he could have done it while he was alive behind their back...when they at least expected? okay i'm kind of done...maybe my brain is over loaded pale/ crash/
I think we all are wondering how and why Michael did what he did, or even if he did it.
Its normal behaviour considering we are speculating with mis-information, and media attention.
Only MJ knows the truth.
We see things the way they are, and not all human beings are forgiving. If MJ comes back and the fans have paid alot of money for these books etc, are they going to get angry and request their money back?? Or is this MJ's way of helping the family or compensating them, for participating in the hoax??? They get their careers back, with him out the way. And make money doing it.
I don't believe Michael would do anything so drastic like this, unless he didn't have a choice. !!!
Agreed, i also think the reason must equally worth giving up life, because that's what he did. And i don't see that reason yet, not from what we are speculating here.
And yes, only MJ knows the truth so why do we fight ridiculing each others opinions? One is not better than other in this unkown context. Debating on forums for 2 years raises more theories and probably more prejudicies or alike/influenced thinking but not The Truth itself. This will only be revealed with and by Michael Jackson himself someday. Probably. If we will not be "hoaxers" again.
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I can't believe no one said this, so I will. Branca is a GOOD guy. The two actions I highlighted in your post are GREAT things! He knows exactly what he is doing to protect Michael Jackson's Heal The World charity. He has contacts, alright, with MICHAEL JACKSON, who OWNS those trademarks AND the BRAND.
Melissa Johnson is the thief and liar who hijacked the trademarks and all of the MJ copyrighted property on the HTW website, and turned it into some kind of a business for profit, as soon as he died. I don't believe it has even done any charity work, since she and her husband helped themselves to MJ's property and took over. She also tries to further jack the court and all his fans, with her online sob story that MJ TOLD her to do this. Do not believe her.
MJ was CEO, and the ONLY one overseeing the business of the charity. While he was up to his eyes in legal problems, being prosecuted for child molestation, the charity was placed on hold and some fee or tax went overlooked, inadvertently. Johnson strategically pounced and stole everything, in the manner of a squatter, which is not legal in business!!
Didn't you guys notice a stark difference in the "flavor" of the HTW website and some logos afraid/ errrr , when he "died"? She is an evil opportunist, without a charitable bone in her body. All MJ's poetry and thoughts that he wrote for people to read openly, she locked up, so that you had to register and give her database your information. Her plan was to have children send in their pennies to finance the "charity", and dutifully, as loyal soldiers in MJ's Army, have their parents purchase all kinds of overpriced stuff to pad her pockets with...She is a thief and a liar. :x
Someone hijacking a charity deserves more than jail time!! :x
two thumbs up, Its Her! i didn't know that Melissa Johnson has enriched herself through HTWF, though i read somewhere here that her HTWF donations totaled only $5,000+ as of 2009, i think. someone also said that right after MJ left, she was busy buying his domains instead of grieving. so why do you think Ms Katherine is on Melissa Johnson's (MJ afraid/ ) side? she's the wild card that made me doubt Branca. is she merely ensuring that she knows what goes on inside and vetoing decisions that further exploit MJ? she even brought the children in :?
Hi Sunburst,
I am not certain how MJ's mom fits into this. I haven't looked into any of it since the legal action was taken against this Melissa J. You're funny! I TOO wondered, with all the rumors that MJ is going to come back "different", if Melissa Johnson was a pseudonym...to transfer control of the charity to his new self. :? :oops: But this woman is just a viper, hiding and waiting, with her husband, to strike MJ when he was overwhelmed in legal trouble.
It's no secret that MJ was financing the charity out of his own pocket, and he had sole control over who received any of the money, NO attorney oversight, or second in command, at all. When he was tied up, NO one handled charity business, and it was legally cancelled as an active charity, I think in 2006.
At first, I thought MelJ had permission from MJ--maybe even as his wife---heck---we really don't know ANYTHING, really, about how he was doing things then. Do we really believe MJ has not had a real spouse all these years?? It didn't seem like MJ to have put so much work ---and a song, yet---into a global, logo-ed, branded, standing, federally registered charity, and let the thing fade slowly away.
But she was married to someone else. And MJ didn't give her permission---she stole it. If MJ transferred trademarks to her legally, WHY is she in court NOW, shakin in her boots? If she was going to make something wonderful out of the "ashes", why go a completely opposite direction, from "non profit" to "for profit" ? I remember reading somewhere that she had gotten "inside" ---with the family---either was around all the time as a family business employee or something, and maybe Ms. K. befriended her for a time, like the local Avon lady or something.
Older nice sweet ladies are sitting ducks for predatory con artists. This MelJ was probably grooming his mom since 2006, to be familiar with her and get her to grow to trust her. :evil: Older ladies get lonely and enjoy having lady friends, not just a bunch of kids to talk to. Maybe MelJ actually was after something else, something his mom has power of attorney over...
Bringing the kids in is simple: the more ties to REALITY, real Jacksons, real MJ, and everything he wrote, the poetry, philosophy, etc., the more genuine it seems her claim is.
Ms. K has no idea the thing has been hijacked at that point. She's not all in MJ's business. All she knows is that HTW people approached her as guardian of those kids.
I think it was some fans that brought all the bogus changes to the estate's lawyers' attention. Not certain. MelJ almost got away with it, and scammed TONs of small change from people right on the hoax sites, who started threads to donate a dollar to the HTWF, which was not even legally a charity OR connected to actual Michael Jackson any more.
It wasn't even the right website address. Look at the picture of the world. The real one had Africa as the center continent. Just little changes, to MAKE it a U.S. online store, with a little indoctrination thrown in, like using the site personnel for your parents if you don't talk with your real ones. omg. That was CREEEEEEEpy. afraid/
The cops always tell kids not to involve yourself with people who want you to keep secrets from your parents!!!!!!!!!!! This isn't HOW to mentor kids who, maybe, even are neglected at home. They don't need fantasy guidance, they need a real live human they can see and touch, and go to, in a crisis, in their real life.
The whole little Michael's Army thing gave me the creeps. Too much like Hitlers Kids, remember that??
Everything online is fantasy, except for online adult education, where you actually interact with real people, and obtain real grades and degrees; and online shopping where you trade real wired money for real actual goods purchased.
You can't train and guide children responsibly in an environment KNOWN for its liars and posers identity-wise, and ALWAYS, anyone competing for loyalty belonging to parents is suspect from the get go.
If MelJ was NOT a snake, think about this: even if MJ DID say, "do what you want, it is defunct now, anyway" and gave her access to pertinent papers and numbers about the trademark property, only someone dishonest, and greedy, is dumb enough to believe this would be a legal transfer (not involving lawyers, witnesses for signatures, etc.... ) :roll:
An honest person would have run these things by her own attorneys, before she invested (as she claims) any of her own money in them. And she didn't. WHY? Because she knew SOMEONE would ask her WHY MJ hadn't come with her to sign them over in her attorney's offices. Because she didn't want to admit HOW she got MJ to give them to her. Drugs? Threatening his mother? He may have known the woman was working right in his mom's house and had access to her. Who knows. The whole arrangement is so fishy...
I believe she already had a website or two up already, so she knew what she was doing. But she had NO right to use MJ's name likeness, or any of HIS copyrighted intellectual property, in starting her own heal the world foundation. She just though she'd make more money, with MJ's name as a huge draw, especially after he died.
Sickening, isn't it, that people in your life would POUNCE on your dead body to pick it clean for themselves. Poor Michael Jackson. Not only done to him, but he knows it, because he's NOT dead. How sad to know people you could have liked, all have a knife behind their backs for YOURS. :cry:
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Hi Sunburst,
I am not certain how MJ's mom fits into this. I haven't looked into any of it since the legal action was taken against this Melissa J. You're funny! I TOO wondered, with all the rumors that MJ is going to come back "different", if Melissa Johnson was a pseudonym...to transfer control of the charity to his new self. :? :oops: But this woman is just a viper, hiding and waiting, with her husband, to strike MJ when he was overwhelmed in legal trouble.
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thanks for the reply, Its Her :) all of what you said makes it even more questionable that Ms Kate is supporting her. but i guess we'll know the truth in time.
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Excellent discussion guys! After reading, my thought is Branca is on MJ's team, and Melissa Johnson is a low charlatan. You can't tell me MJ is not in comunication with his mother on these matters, giving her inside scoop on important things all through the years. She's his closest ally all his life. Maybe Katherine and MJ’s kids are in HTW in a sting operation, helping Branca. MJ proudly gave them their first big assignment. michael-jackson/ Quite the adventure for the kids, just like in some of the detective books some of us older members read as kids.
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Excellent discussion guys! After reading, my thought is Branca is on MJ's team, and Melissa Johnson is a low charlatan. You can't tell me MJ is not in comunication with his mother on these matters, giving her inside scoop on important things all through the years. She's his closest ally all his life. Maybe Katherine and MJ’s kids are in HTW in a sting operation, helping Branca. MJ proudly gave them their first big assignment. michael-jackson/ Quite the adventure for the kids, just like in some of the detective books some of us older members read as kids.
You may have something there. I just thought that he let the kids hit the news with HTW, to remind people that the brand is HIS, and gosh DARN it! It is ALL for LOVE, not greed :!: I just can't get over how simple it was for anyone to take HTW over this way.
Perhaps, Mrs. Johnson offered to resurrect the charity business, and had a plan that excited MJ---maybe the first thing to make him happy since his accusation trouble started. Then, while he was absent, trusting her, the liar was doing monkey business on him.
I remember MJ speaking very cryptically, I think at a birthday party for him, about something very cool being "developed" as he spoke. He said it would be out in a couple years. [He could have meant the Opus. That took longer than they said, to get the bugs out of that interactive business. (I don't know if it is working yet...I haven't opened mine yet.)]
I thought it was another game. He also said something about going for your dreams, either then, or another time, and I saw others asking about this, last year, online when I Googled it---if it was a charity or some kind of mentoring, life-coach type thing or a young people's game. There were no answers, just questions. But MelJ's HTW Foundation, coincidentally had a teaser for a game in development on the new site. It was some kind of a character development or "moral focus" game. It reminded me of the fighting Apostles or Archangels or something religious, but I can't remember the name, and I couldn't read anything on the site after she put everything under lockdown, so I don't know if it ever went to market or was just for that website or what. These kinds of things mess with my brain, because it sounds like something good (off the wall, but, everything new is, at first). (It didn't look FUN, though, :lol: so how could it be :oops: MJ's? )
I hope pale/ we don't find out that this whole "HTW/hijack" was just more MJ albino/ hijinx!! I mean, just another MJ lesson about NOT believing what the news media reports. There was alot of crap flying around about him at first, remember? And all those dirty books which came out...I was so mad about this HTW scam. I have enough wrongs to be mad about, without being mad at MJ's imaginary,
FICTIONAL enemies crash/ ....:roll: :x mj_dance/
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Just a reminder of this. Talk about twists and turns. crash/ suspicious// albino/
Katherine Jackson: The Declaration is a FRAUD!
4/12/2011 5:05 PM PDT by TMZ Staff
Katherine Jackson is furious about a declaration filed with the court -- purportedly signed by her -- in which she attacks the Executors of the Michael Jackson Estate. TMZ has learned ... Katherine insists she never signed that declaration.
TMZ reported this morning ... a declaration filed in the Estate's lawsuit against the Heal the World Foundation makes shocking allegations against John Branca, calling him a thief.
But Katherine's lawyer, Adam Streisand, tells TMZ, "Mrs. Jackson categorically denies signing any statement to the court that makes accusations against the executors of any wrongdoing with respect to her son or his estate."
Streisand adds, "She did not and would not make any such statements about the executors." And Streisand says, Katherine told him, "These are not my words."
Check out the signature on the declaration in question, dated April 6, 2011, and compare it to Katherine's signature from a legal doc on February 3, 2010.
As for the Heal the World Foundation lawyer -- Edgar Pease -- who filed the declaration in question, he tells TMZ someone from the Foundation faxed Katherine's manager the final copy of the document and it was then sent on to Pease with the signature in question.
Pease says if the signature is a fraud, "Heads will roll."
UPDATE: Pease just called us back to say Trent Jackson -- Joe Jackson's nephew and Katherine's caregiver -- told him he personally saw Katherine sign the declaration. But sources connected with the Estate say the declaration is suspicious, because the last page ONLY contains the signature, without any accompanying text. In other words, someone could have inserted the signature into a declaration Katherine never saw or approved.