Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => The Redirects => TIAI => The Plan (Qanon, TIAI, BACK) => TIAI ~ 2009 => Topic started by: alive on December 22, 2009, 03:38:22 AM
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Why does thisisalsoit.com redirect here? viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924)
This is the reveal? :? .... :roll:
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Because whoever owns TIAI.com is continuing to play mind games with the people who believe the redirects are relevant. Or maybe the person is just honored that someone wrote a nine-part series about their website (the thread that TIAI.com links to now is the first of nine recent posts here).
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yes, someone from the old mjhd. Or what Im missing?
Do you not believe it is study? I believe it, only he or she wrote in this way.
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Don't wanna sound like a douche or anything, I mean you can believe what you wanna believe...but you're still doubting it. Have you read the entire 9 parts?
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This is just ridiculous...I mean if you have info to reveal just reveal it...short and simple...don't write a book about it...I mean c'mon...enough already....where's your proof of the hoax...I don't see any proof :x
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I haven't even read two sentences, nevermind 9 parts. :lol: I don't waste my time with stuff like this, no offense to anyone, it just doesn't mean anything to me regarding proof of the hoax.
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My guess is it's someone on this board.
Possibly. It also crossed my mind that it might be the person who wrote the nine-part series posted here this morning.
Don't wanna sound like a douche or anything, I mean you can believe what you wanna believe...but you're still doubting it. Have you read the entire 9 parts?
You don't sound like a douche to me. You sound direct, and I like it like that.
I doubt quite a bit when it comes to this situation with Michael and June 25. So, yes, I still think TIAI.com is just mind games. I've read segments of the nine-part series and will skim the whole thing later, but I'm not holding my breath that it will change my mind. What I've read so far hasn't impressed me at all.
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It's all just theory and speculation...no concrete evidence...someones thoughts about the situation but they portrayed themselves as knowing the truth...where is that part? Am I missing something here? It's fine if you have theories and whatnot but don't play like you are an insider who knows the truth when you obviously don't have any solid proof to put forth, just ideas.
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he/she said that wont tell what he/she knows by the moment (i've read the 9 parts), and you are all right that there is no proof but.. check out this forum, we also are based on speculation but we firmely believe that Michael is alive. Even though she/he has no proof, I'll recognize that made a great and creative job, and that even caught more attention that a lot of thread opened in this or other forums and videos etc etc.
I don't like to underestimate the investigations or researchs that other have made, for me TIAI was a great job and opened a lot of minds.. only for that (and the same for each post in this forum).. shapó if appears with proof, then it will be a double shapó.. until something really make a huge change, I'll keep waiting and checking every single door opened.
Lots of L.O.V.E
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"And although I am not MJ, I do have information about MJ and the hoax that has not yet been fully understood. Again, anyone who reads all 9 parts will have no doubt that I do have some very important information. I am not going to say right now how I got this information; many would not believe me if I told you. But I will reveal this when the time is right." TS (S.T.U.D.Y.)
OK TS...this is great and if u do have informations ab the hoax that were not fully understood, could u please explain better for us??
Of course, by saying u got some very important info u will draw lots of "followers" and attention from everybody around here! How do we know that ur entire statement is the REVEAL of TIAI??? Maybe this is just another part of the game??? U said u are the one behind TIAI and that u are not a fake...ok, but who's S.T.U.D.Y ??? who's TS??? ....we still Know nothing ab you;) I'm not saying u are lying or that u are a fraud!! noo...but u are "suspicios"!!!why?? bcz u like playing games! U say u are the one behind the curtin of TIAI??!!
SO U MUST HAVE ENJOYED LEADING PPL TOWARD WHT??? U USED SOME CLUES (LINKS) TO TELL US WHT WE ALL ALREADY KNOW!! "OPEN UR EYES?? AWAKE!!MJ IS ALIVE?? " YESSSSSSSSS WE ALREADY KNOW THIS !! HELLO???
BUT THIS IS TOO MUCH FOR BELIVERS TO TAKE! AT LEAST I'M SICK AND TIRED OF CLUES, AND HIDDEN MESSAGES, AND PUZZLES! WE WANT NEWS! REAL NEWS! FROM SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHT HAPPENT AND WHT IS GOING TO HAPPEN! WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER PERSON TO play some games LIKE FOLLOW THE RABBIT, FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD, VENDETTA, GEORGE, MARTIN LUTHER KING..ETC!
EVERYWHERE WE TURN WE SEE CLUES AND RIDDELS! IS THIS FAIR FOR A BELIVER TO DO?? DON'T WE DESERVE A STR8 ANSWER?? HAVEN'T WE BEEN PLAYED FOR TOO LONG??
Sorry for the caps lock...I'm not yelling at u TS ...ok?? we're cool, I just wanted to get this off my chest! and Maybe u can give a reply back?? thank u
LOVE is MJ <3
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Yes Inhalib, and I agree with u!
Wht can I say?? I feel dissapointed bcz here we are... all together, brain-storming trying to figure out that clue, that link, that mesage!! wht does it mean?? where does it lead???
AND IN THE MEAN TIME, SOMEONE FROM HERE OR MJHD PLANS "EVIDENCES" FOR US TO INVESTIGATE! AND HE/SHE MUST BE LIKE..WOW! LOOK AT THAT! WHT HAVE I CREATED???
WOOOW! MUST HAVE BEEN VERY FUNNY FOR THE ONE BEHIND TIAI TO SEE US SQEEZE OUR BRAINS OUT FOR SOME ANSWERS TO HIS/HER PLANTED CLUES! :mrgreen:
OR LIKE I've said....maybe THE BIG 9 REVEAL IS part of the Bigger Game! ;)
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STUDY (or TS) did an amazing job. I read all 9 sections and I was surprised by the creativity it took to put TIAI through all the redirections. He (she) also wants to bring together MJ's army of love. I think that's a nice initiative, an ideologic army, with no other weapons than love itself. I joined BTW :D
So, the whole idea I find to be great! But trough the whole 9 parts I found a lot of references to the Bible. I was baptized as an Orthodox Christian and I do have respect for the Bible, but I thought the reveal of TIAI would be based on more tangible facts. Let's not forget that the book existed for so long! It has been translated, edited and modified so much, that I don't know if we can take each and every word as it is. Just my opinion.
I guess I was expecting to see facts more than Bible verses. (Even thou some consider the Bible as a FACT provider)
Nonetheless I applaud STUDY's work on this whole deal. It was quite a journey so far and seems it's not stopping yet.
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im confussed, i know the posts of study and they had something.
i read the 9 parts today, they where sometimes hard to get trough.
and with part 9 he lost me. i cant follow that part today, tried to read it but it wont go into my head.
i hope he really KNOWS MJ is alive.
and like the most of us im waiting for the real thing.
we already know it all for love, but I want MJ to come out of his safe keepings.
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AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE THAT IS PISSED? I UNDERSTAND THE MEANING BEHIND EACH REDIRECT, BUIT DOESN'T ANYONE ELSE FEEL AS THOUGH WE WERE MADE FOOLS OF? I KNOW MICHAEL IS ALIVE, AND WHETHER HE COMES BACK OR NOT IS UP TO HIM. I HAVE UNDERSTOOD HIS MESSAGE FROM DAY ONE.
BUT, EVERYDAY EACH OF US WERE WAITING FOR THE BIG NEWS YESTERDAY TILL WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING MOST OF US GOING THROUGH THE DAY WITH NO SLEEP.
I AM JUST VENTING.
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AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE THAT IS PISSED? I UNDERSTAND THE MEANING BEHIND EACH REDIRECT, BUIT DOESN'T ANYONE ELSE FEEL AS THOUGH WE WERE MADE FOOLS OF? I KNOW MICHAEL IS ALIVE, AND WHETHER HE COMES BACK OR NOT IS UP TO HIM. I HAVE UNDERSTOOD HIS MESSAGE FROM DAY ONE.
BUT, EVERYDAY EACH OF US WERE WAITING FOR THE BIG NEWS YESTERDAY TILL WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING MOST OF US GOING THROUGH THE DAY WITH NO SLEEP.
I AM JUST VENTING.
:? NO I AGREE I JUST KEEP GETTING CONFUSED AS YOU ALL NO .MY BRAIN CANNOT HANDLE ANYMORE CRYPTIC CLUES OR MESSAGES I JUST WANT IT PUT SIMPLY,YESTERDAY WAS WAY TO MUCH STRESS MY CELL WAS BURSTING AT THE SEAMS
AND SO WAS I :lol:
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AM I THE ONLY ONE HERE THAT IS PISSED? I UNDERSTAND THE MEANING BEHIND EACH REDIRECT, BUIT DOESN'T ANYONE ELSE FEEL AS THOUGH WE WERE MADE FOOLS OF? I KNOW MICHAEL IS ALIVE, AND WHETHER HE COMES BACK OR NOT IS UP TO HIM. I HAVE UNDERSTOOD HIS MESSAGE FROM DAY ONE.
BUT, EVERYDAY EACH OF US WERE WAITING FOR THE BIG NEWS YESTERDAY TILL WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING MOST OF US GOING THROUGH THE DAY WITH NO SLEEP.
I AM JUST VENTING.
Agree for 100%! Thanks!
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so how does one person firmly know more information on MJ than the rest of the world? yet revealed nothing on HOW and WHY he/she was "chosen"? and also did not reveal when MJ would come back.
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I haven't even read two sentences, nevermind 9 parts. :lol: I don't waste my time with stuff like this, no offense to anyone, it just doesn't mean anything to me regarding proof of the hoax.
I absolutely agree with you!
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I'm disappointed...
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So i read it and for me its brainwashing..
I agree that we make love not war-but sorry this is to much for me-TIAI-for me -this had nothing to do whith that hoax.....sorry for my disagree.. :?
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Oh my... :|
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We want to see Michael in the TV Breaking News right now!!! :D
Understanding the clues?(Reading a book about it) we already do it for months...
I need a padded cell...
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
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A lot of people are trippin'...
Michael more than likely has taken YEARS and I mean YEARS to plan this..
You honestly think this is going to be revealed in 6 lousy months?
Oh..We have lots to learn.. Lots..
Sit tight and enjoy the ride...
I love the ride Michael ;)
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I don't think Michael was planned this( i mean years before it) , and nobody knows what happaned exactly...
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i must say i did read it all at times i got very confused ,but then i would come back later and it would be much clearer.i am not saying i understand it all and some of it i find a bit scary,but what i understand is it is our world our choices and it is up to us to unite and change it together ,we cannot sit back and hope some one else will do it for us,is that kind of right :)
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I don't think Michael was planned this( i mean years before it) , and nobody knows what happaned exactly...
I so agree with you, I'm sorry but I cannot believe that Michael planned this years ago I still believe he was put in a position that made him do this now and not years ago.
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i must say i did read it all at times i got very confused ,but then i would come back later and it would be much clearer.i am not saying i understand it all and some of it i find a bit scary,but what i understand is it is our world our choices and it is up to us to unite and change it together ,we cannot sit back and hope some one else will do it for us,is that kind of right :)
Yeah but we also could have thought about that without TIAI, I mean that is Michael's messages for years and years now.
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
well i guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion
i too greatly admire all the hard work S.T.U.D.Y. has put into this and i do not doubt for a second that the intentions are honourable...
However i can understand that there are people here on the forum who just want to know if MJ is ok and know it for a fact not from hearsay and sources who say they are in the know. Again, i think the person behind TIAI must be a wonderful person to put so much effort into trying to make others "aware" i am in no way dissing this person or their motives, but i for one would also like to know if MJ is ok for a fact and think it unwise of the person behind TIAI to make their reveal and claim to have this info on MJ that we so desperately want to know without backing it up
PEACE
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I don't think Michael was planned this( i mean years before it) , and nobody knows what happaned exactly...
You've got to be kidding...
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I think possible reason is that: they want 50 concert and he is not, maybe that was the problem, it happened June 21-24.
But if happened that way, i don't get the TII clues(Smooth Criminal, Thriller, After credits scene etc.) So it was maybe planned or not, i am confused, it is not clear at all....
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I don't think Michael was planned this( i mean years before it) , and nobody knows what happaned exactly...
I so agree with you, I'm sorry but I cannot believe that Michael planned this years ago I still believe he was put in a position that made him do this now and not years ago.
I completely agree with you and many others. We cannot really come and say "MJ this" and "MJ that" because no one of us really knows what's happening. Yes we have theories and facts, but to say completely sure that the plan was made with years of advance it's a lot to say, in particular when we don't know the entire story. TIAI as I thought was just a kid trying to play with people's minds and keep pretending that he/she has some kind of inside information but everything was just a group of things and speculations that I've read already here. This case is not different from the "MJ is in danger because of us", "I have information that I will reveal later" kind of people.
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i must say i did read it all at times i got very confused ,but then i would come back later and it would be much clearer.i am not saying i understand it all and some of it i find a bit scary,but what i understand is it is our world our choices and it is up to us to unite and change it together ,we cannot sit back and hope some one else will do it for us,is that kind of right :)
Yeah but we also could have thought about that without TIAI, I mean that is Michael's messages for years and years now.
yeah but a lot of people only really listened to the music and drooled over the gold pants without really hearing the message it was only after the death that more people became aware of his messages
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I better
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
I'm going to get bashed for this and I know it. But it must be said:
THANK YOU MO!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry, I for one and the kind of person who normally keeps their mouth shut when I read something and I don't agree with it. This is not one of those times. I read the post from S.T.U.D.Y this morning and it all makes perfect sense. For those of you who haven't read his post from MJHD, you really should read them. They are very interesting. I know that almost everyone in this forum has heard the expression "everything happens for a reason" or something similar to that right? Well why not put it to good use now?
Let's say that MJ did plan this hoax all around getting the worlds attention to things going on in our world. Does that surprise you? It wouldn't surprise me. MJ is more then an icon, a man that goes on stage and can carry a tune and dance like no other. He's also a humanitarian, he himself said that he reads everything and it wouldn't surprise me the least if he knew something about everything going on in our world. Things that wouldn't even cross our minds, he's panicing over and trying to make different.
Let me tell you what I see, I see a man who through songs and speeches and interviews over the MANY years was trying to get a message across and it didn't work. What we heard was the music (in general), what we saw was a very good looking man telling us his views on things and we might have thought about it for a split second and then it was gone. No one took him serious enough to actually listen to what he was saying. We (in general) were more consumed with where he was at, what he was doing, why was he doing it etc. to listen to him and listen to the messages that he was trying to get out to everyone.
Someone said it earlier in another thread that it was sad that something like this had to happen in order to get an army of love together. She was abosolutely right! It is sad! Let me ask, what happens when a family member or beloved friend dies? We naturally gather around the ones we love for support. In our darkest hour we want the ones we love with us, to spread the love, so we don't feel alone in our misery of losing a family member or friend. That is EXACTLY what happen ALL of the world heard about MJ "dying". Everything STOPPED! There were strangers talking on the streets, sharing their memories. There were people crying and singing and a UNITY like there had never been before! That is exactly what MJ has been saying for YEARS and yes, in a sense he had to "die" before anyone would listen. Because only then did people start going back and listening to his music, watching videos and interviews. Only then did EVERYONE (even non-fans before) start appreciating what MJ was trying to do all along.
*Just as a side note, I too am guilty of not listening. Not paying attention and only being consumed with MJ as an artist, not as someone who is carrying possibly the most important message that I might ever hear.*
I think we should take a time out on "when is MJ coming back, is he coming back, etc." The focus needs to be redirected to the messages he has been screaming for years and now that he has this army the message can hit harder then ever.
It's not about when or if he comes back, it's about what are we as his fans the ones who claim to love and know him best, are we willing to stand up and fight for him and the message he had to "die" for?
Just my thought.
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
woah, calm down. everyone can have their own opinion. not everyone is going to agree on what's happening. but it doesn't mean we are blind. it doesn't mean we don't get Michael's message. I don't understand why you're an administrator if you just want all on the same page. you need to respect the diversity of opinions...be a good leader, not one who gets frustrated when not everyone agrees with what you say.
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important![/qu
woah, calm down. everyone can have their own opinion. not everyone is going to agree on what's happening. but it doesn't mean we are blind. it doesn't mean we don't get Michael's message. I don't understand why you're an administrator if you just want all on the same page. you need to respect the diversity of opinions...be a good leader, not one who gets frustrated when not everyone agrees with what you say.
Amen to that :!:
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So i read it and for me its brainwashing..
I agree that we make love not war-but sorry this is to much for me-TIAI-for me -this had nothing to do whith that hoax.....sorry for my disagree.. :?
I agree.
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
woah, calm down. everyone can have their own opinion. not everyone is going to agree on what's happening. but it doesn't mean we are blind. it doesn't mean we don't get Michael's message. I don't understand why you're an administrator if you just want all on the same page. you need to respect the diversity of opinions...be a good leader, not one who gets frustrated when not everyone agrees with what you say.
I agree with you!!! I'm not blind and i get michaels message but i dont get that TIAI ...but i appreciate STUDY's work in all this-but for me its to much..
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
woah, calm down. everyone can have their own opinion. not everyone is going to agree on what's happening. but it doesn't mean we are blind. it doesn't mean we don't get Michael's message. I don't understand why you're an administrator if you just want all on the same page. you need to respect the diversity of opinions...be a good leader, not one who gets frustrated when not everyone agrees with what you say.
I absolutely agree with you, even tho we don't agree with TIAI it doesn't mean we don't get Michael's message and we are are certainly not blind we have been sitting here for almost six months and we already come a long way even before TIAI.
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
woah, calm down. everyone can have their own opinion. not everyone is going to agree on what's happening. but it doesn't mean we are blind. it doesn't mean we don't get Michael's message. I don't understand why you're an administrator if you just want all on the same page. you need to respect the diversity of opinions...be a good leader, not one who gets frustrated when not everyone agrees with what you say.
I absolutely agree with you, even tho we don't agree with TIAI it doesn't mean we don't get Michael's message and we are are certainly not blind we have been sitting here for almost six months and we already come a long way even before TIAI.
I think that you rae all messing up with this.. I understood the post of Mo in another way, and is kind of the way I think too... Ppl here is saying things about the 9 parts of TIAI without reading them, and they are saying things like "he never said whe michael is coming back"... yes! he is not telling us that because he does't know it either, and he is clear in his post refering to this... so what mo is saying is that ppl is posting without knowing, and that they are too lazy to read so much like the 9 parts but they have opinion formed as if they have really read it... and I think the same way. Of course each one can have his own opinion, but you can't point your finger to someone who you don't even know what he is talking about.
Another thing is that each one of us has been speculating about Michael's odd things, he's come back etc, and suddenly someone get more creative than posting in a forum and he get's this.. like if it was the first one of doing some speculation .. is not fair.
And finnaly, we all talk about spreading love, about michaels message, about how the world is falling down.. and when someone finds a way to do it.. to make us think and be alert.. when someone finds a way to make that thousands of eyes look to the same direction, everyone is pointing as him.
TS has many bible influences for me, and I don't agree with that because i'm not a religious girl, but it doesn't mean that he/she hadn't make a wonderful job that requieres time and patient, and certanly doesn't mean that i will ask proof that nbone of us have just because she/he creates a web pages for showing images.
21/12 TIAI it will be revealed.. and it was it like that, the post on you tube didn't say "21/12 Michael is coming back to your tv so watch all day" so please, respect the job of others, even if we are not agree with them in 100%
Lost of L.O.V.E
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I better
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no Mo keep talking, atm everyone has it own thoughts and some expeted a lot i think,
but at the end we are all here for the same thing.
now some take another road but we will come together at the same place
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I think that you rae all messing up with this.. I understood the post of Mo in another way, and is kind of the way I think too... Ppl here is saying things about the 9 parts of TIAI without reading them, and they are saying things like "he never said whe michael is coming back"... yes! he is not telling us that because he does't know it either, and he is clear in his post refering to this... so what mo is saying is that ppl is posting without knowing, and that they are too lazy to read so much like the 9 parts but they have opinion formed as if they have really read it... and I think the same way. Of course each one can have his own opinion, but you can't point your finger to someone who you don't even know what he is talking about.
Another thing is that each one of us has been speculating about Michael's odd things, he's come back etc, and suddenly someone get more creative than posting in a forum and he get's this.. like if it was the first one of doing some speculation .. is not fair.
And finnaly, we all talk about spreading love, about michaels message, about how the world is falling down.. and when someone finds a way to do it.. to make us think and be alert.. when someone finds a way to make that thousands of eyes look to the same direction, everyone is pointing as him.
TS has many bible influences for me, and I don't agree with that because i'm not a religious girl, but it doesn't mean that he/she hadn't make a wonderful job that requieres time and patient, and certanly doesn't mean that i will ask proof that nbone of us have just because she/he creates a web pages for showing images.
21/12 TIAI it will be revealed.. and it was it like that, the post on you tube didn't say "21/12 Michael is coming back to your tv so watch all day" so please, respect the job of others, even if we are not agree with them in 100%
Lost of L.O.V.E
no i perfectly understand. yes, i read all 9 parts. but Mo or anyone should not get furious when one of us asks when Michael is coming back. we want to know, so we ask. even if we did read the 9 parts, it does not mean we will all comprehend it the same way. some of us like figurative language, others like our answers direct. it does not mean we were lazy in reading it because many of us did. but the way we comprehend things vary depending on each person. i personally don't agree with how Michael's message was approached, through a website with redirections. is that not why forum boards are created, for everyone to express their theories, opinions, etc.? that's just my opinion. but seriously, i don't get why some are getting mad at how some of us don't agree with the process of TIAI.
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Yes we are all here for the same reason.
Because we LOVE Michael!!
We can't loose sight of that fact.
If you don't take the time to read all the parts then how can you make a comment if you don't know what is written?
Don't get stuck on the very thing that hurt Michael all along. Open your mind, open your eyes. What do you have to loose? Sit back and enjoy the ride.
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I think that you rae all messing up with this.. I understood the post of Mo in another way, and is kind of the way I think too... Ppl here is saying things about the 9 parts of TIAI without reading them, and they are saying things like "he never said whe michael is coming back"... yes! he is not telling us that because he does't know it either, and he is clear in his post refering to this... so what mo is saying is that ppl is posting without knowing, and that they are too lazy to read so much like the 9 parts but they have opinion formed as if they have really read it... and I think the same way. Of course each one can have his own opinion, but you can't point your finger to someone who you don't even know what he is talking about.
Another thing is that each one of us has been speculating about Michael's odd things, he's come back etc, and suddenly someone get more creative than posting in a forum and he get's this.. like if it was the first one of doing some speculation .. is not fair.
And finnaly, we all talk about spreading love, about michaels message, about how the world is falling down.. and when someone finds a way to do it.. to make us think and be alert.. when someone finds a way to make that thousands of eyes look to the same direction, everyone is pointing as him.
TS has many bible influences for me, and I don't agree with that because i'm not a religious girl, but it doesn't mean that he/she hadn't make a wonderful job that requieres time and patient, and certanly doesn't mean that i will ask proof that nbone of us have just because she/he creates a web pages for showing images.
21/12 TIAI it will be revealed.. and it was it like that, the post on you tube didn't say "21/12 Michael is coming back to your tv so watch all day" so please, respect the job of others, even if we are not agree with them in 100%
Lost of L.O.V.E
no i perfectly understand. yes, i read all 9 parts. but Mo or anyone should not get furious when one of us asks when Michael is coming back. we want to know, so we ask. even if we did read the 9 parts, it does not mean we will all comprehend it the same way. some of us like figurative language, others like our answers direct. it does not mean we were lazy in reading it because many of us did. but the way we comprehend things vary depending on each person. i personally don't agree with how Michael's message was approached, through a website with redirections. is that not why forum boards are created, for everyone to express their theories, opinions, etc.? that's just my opinion. but seriously, i don't get why some are getting mad at how some of us don't agree with the process of TIAI.
I cannot agree with you more girl!!
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I think that you rae all messing up with this.. I understood the post of Mo in another way, and is kind of the way I think too... Ppl here is saying things about the 9 parts of TIAI without reading them, and they are saying things like "he never said whe michael is coming back"... yes! he is not telling us that because he does't know it either, and he is clear in his post refering to this... so what mo is saying is that ppl is posting without knowing, and that they are too lazy to read so much like the 9 parts but they have opinion formed as if they have really read it... and I think the same way. Of course each one can have his own opinion, but you can't point your finger to someone who you don't even know what he is talking about.
Another thing is that each one of us has been speculating about Michael's odd things, he's come back etc, and suddenly someone get more creative than posting in a forum and he get's this.. like if it was the first one of doing some speculation .. is not fair.
And finnaly, we all talk about spreading love, about michaels message, about how the world is falling down.. and when someone finds a way to do it.. to make us think and be alert.. when someone finds a way to make that thousands of eyes look to the same direction, everyone is pointing as him.
TS has many bible influences for me, and I don't agree with that because i'm not a religious girl, but it doesn't mean that he/she hadn't make a wonderful job that requieres time and patient, and certanly doesn't mean that i will ask proof that nbone of us have just because she/he creates a web pages for showing images.
21/12 TIAI it will be revealed.. and it was it like that, the post on you tube didn't say "21/12 Michael is coming back to your tv so watch all day" so please, respect the job of others, even if we are not agree with them in 100%
Lost of L.O.V.E
no i perfectly understand. yes, i read all 9 parts. but Mo or anyone should not get furious when one of us asks when Michael is coming back. we want to know, so we ask. even if we did read the 9 parts, it does not mean we will all comprehend it the same way. some of us like figurative language, others like our answers direct. it does not mean we were lazy in reading it because many of us did. but the way we comprehend things vary depending on each person. i personally don't agree with how Michael's message was approached, through a website with redirections. is that not why forum boards are created, for everyone to express their theories, opinions, etc.? that's just my opinion. but seriously, i don't get why some are getting mad at how some of us don't agree with the process of TIAI.
If you really would have read it all, you wouldn't have to ask when Mike is coming back.
Mo is an administrator on this forum and she will always be an administrator on this forum. It would be appreciated not to question someones role here anymore, because that is really not up to you.
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I think that you rae all messing up with this.. I understood the post of Mo in another way, and is kind of the way I think too... Ppl here is saying things about the 9 parts of TIAI without reading them, and they are saying things like "he never said whe michael is coming back"... yes! he is not telling us that because he does't know it either, and he is clear in his post refering to this... so what mo is saying is that ppl is posting without knowing, and that they are too lazy to read so much like the 9 parts but they have opinion formed as if they have really read it... and I think the same way. Of course each one can have his own opinion, but you can't point your finger to someone who you don't even know what he is talking about.
Another thing is that each one of us has been speculating about Michael's odd things, he's come back etc, and suddenly someone get more creative than posting in a forum and he get's this.. like if it was the first one of doing some speculation .. is not fair.
And finnaly, we all talk about spreading love, about michaels message, about how the world is falling down.. and when someone finds a way to do it.. to make us think and be alert.. when someone finds a way to make that thousands of eyes look to the same direction, everyone is pointing as him.
TS has many bible influences for me, and I don't agree with that because i'm not a religious girl, but it doesn't mean that he/she hadn't make a wonderful job that requieres time and patient, and certanly doesn't mean that i will ask proof that nbone of us have just because she/he creates a web pages for showing images.
21/12 TIAI it will be revealed.. and it was it like that, the post on you tube didn't say "21/12 Michael is coming back to your tv so watch all day" so please, respect the job of others, even if we are not agree with them in 100%
Lost of L.O.V.E
no i perfectly understand. yes, i read all 9 parts. but Mo or anyone should not get furious when one of us asks when Michael is coming back. we want to know, so we ask. even if we did read the 9 parts, it does not mean we will all comprehend it the same way. some of us like figurative language, others like our answers direct. it does not mean we were lazy in reading it because many of us did. but the way we comprehend things vary depending on each person. i personally don't agree with how Michael's message was approached, through a website with redirections. is that not why forum boards are created, for everyone to express their theories, opinions, etc.? that's just my opinion. but seriously, i don't get why some are getting mad at how some of us don't agree with the process of TIAI.
If you really would have read it all, you wouldn't have to ask when Mike is coming back.
Mo is an administrator on this forum and she will always be an administrator on this forum. It would be appreciated not to question someones role here anymore, because that is really not up to you.
as i said, not all of us comprehend the same way. we have every right to ask. just like i was skeptical of Mo's role here. sorry, if you are an administrator, be sure to be open-minded. do not get mad when people aren't on the same page as you. this is getting so stupid...especially since this is the INTERNET.
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as i said, not all of us comprehend the same way. we have every right to ask. just like i was skeptical of Mo's role here. sorry, if you are an administrator, be sure to be open-minded. do not get mad when people aren't on the same page as you. this is getting so stupid...especially since this is the INTERNET.
Well, I think Mo and I are both VERY open minded and I am not mad, I am just saying as it is.
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as i said, not all of us comprehend the same way. we have every right to ask. just like i was skeptical of Mo's role here. sorry, if you are an administrator, be sure to be open-minded. do not get mad when people aren't on the same page as you. this is getting so stupid...especially since this is the INTERNET.
Well, I think Mo and I are both VERY open minded and I am not mad, I am just saying as it is.
i'm not talking about you. i'm talking about your partner. i'm saying it like it is also.
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Whoa WHOA!
My comment was actually only like half serious..
Let me back up..
Are their people that ACTUALLY believe that Michael Jackson didn't plan this hoax for years???
Are you FLIPPIN' serious????
Im not even trying to knock anybody, but you have got to be freaking kidding me if you HONESTLY believe that Michael woke up one day and was like "Yeah im gonna fake my death cuz i dont want to do these shows"....
Ok we are all entitled to our own opinions, but to suggest that Michael Jackson is such a coward in that way is unacceptable from where I said on my opinion..
There are plenty of ways that Michael could have gotten out of doing those shows WITHOUT resorting to um.. Death?
Of course this is just my opinion, but I think some people need to open their minds a LITTLE bit more for this..
Michael has been talking about bailing for YEARS..
YEARS..
If you want me to seriously dedicate a thread to all of the examples of his want/need to bounce out of the industry and prove a lesson, let me know..
I'd love to do it..
:P
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:D TRUTHSEEKERMAURA I DARE YOU I THINK SOME PEOPLE MIGHT BENEFIT FROM IT :D
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Hey, Maura -- definitely start the new thread! Your hoax investigation has been amazing thus far -- truth us, girl!! :D
Lots of L.O.V.E.,
Eliana
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ooooohhh don't egg me on chica's!! I seriously JUST might hahahahaha :lol: :lol:
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Whoa WHOA!
My comment was actually only like half serious..
Let me back up..
Are their people that ACTUALLY believe that Michael Jackson didn't plan this hoax for years???
Are you FLIPPIN' serious????
Im not even trying to knock anybody, but you have got to be freaking kidding me if you HONESTLY believe that Michael woke up one day and was like "Yeah im gonna fake my death cuz i dont want to do these shows"....
Ok we are all entitled to our own opinions, but to suggest that Michael Jackson is such a coward in that way is unacceptable from where I said on my opinion..
There are plenty of ways that Michael could have gotten out of doing those shows WITHOUT resorting to um.. Death?
Of course this is just my opinion, but I think some people need to open their minds a LITTLE bit more for this..
Michael has been talking about bailing for YEARS..
YEARS..
If you want me to seriously dedicate a thread to all of the examples of his want/need to bounce out of the industry and prove a lesson, let me know..
I'd love to do it..
:P
Hey Maura, it'd be great if you could put up in a thread all those examples. So we can all study them and make up new opinions. :D
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Whoa WHOA!
My comment was actually only like half serious..
Let me back up..
Are their people that ACTUALLY believe that Michael Jackson didn't plan this hoax for years???
Are you FLIPPIN' serious????
Im not even trying to knock anybody, but you have got to be freaking kidding me if you HONESTLY believe that Michael woke up one day and was like "Yeah im gonna fake my death cuz i dont want to do these shows"....
Ok we are all entitled to our own opinions, but to suggest that Michael Jackson is such a coward in that way is unacceptable from where I said on my opinion..
There are plenty of ways that Michael could have gotten out of doing those shows WITHOUT resorting to um.. Death?
Of course this is just my opinion, but I think some people need to open their minds a LITTLE bit more for this..
Michael has been talking about bailing for YEARS..
YEARS..
If you want me to seriously dedicate a thread to all of the examples of his want/need to bounce out of the industry and prove a lesson, let me know..
I'd love to do it..
:P
Hey Maura, it'd be great if you could put up in a thread all those examples. So we can all study them and make up new opinions. :D
Yes I would love to see that too, I'm open to all opinions and suggestions.
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Whoa WHOA!
My comment was actually only like half serious..
Let me back up..
Are their people that ACTUALLY believe that Michael Jackson didn't plan this hoax for years???
Are you FLIPPIN' serious????
Im not even trying to knock anybody, but you have got to be freaking kidding me if you HONESTLY believe that Michael woke up one day and was like "Yeah im gonna fake my death cuz i dont want to do these shows"....
Ok we are all entitled to our own opinions, but to suggest that Michael Jackson is such a coward in that way is unacceptable from where I said on my opinion..
There are plenty of ways that Michael could have gotten out of doing those shows WITHOUT resorting to um.. Death?
Of course this is just my opinion, but I think some people need to open their minds a LITTLE bit more for this..
Michael has been talking about bailing for YEARS..
YEARS..
If you want me to seriously dedicate a thread to all of the examples of his want/need to bounce out of the industry and prove a lesson, let me know..
I'd love to do it..
:P
who said anything about not believing it was planned a long time ago?
All i see here are people saying they respect the TIAI's findings but don't approve of
having it pratically shoved down their throats as all facts, in the case they do not agree
with the people who do swallow it whole. I have read all of the parts and have stated on this thread that i find it admirable and no doubt it's all in honourable intentions, but to
see members get "reprimanded and basically reminded of their place " here on this forum
is, sorry to say ,also not what we all seem to think MJ stands for , i mean simply for not agreeing with someone elses opinion. I'm perfectly capable of forming my own opinions .
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Whoa WHOA!
My comment was actually only like half serious..
:P
who said anything about not believing it was planned a long time ago?
All i see here are people saying they respect the TIAI's findings but don't approve of
having it pratically shoved down their throats as all facts, in the case they do not agree
with the people who do swallow it whole. I have read all of the parts and have stated on this thread that i find it admirable and no doubt it's all in honourable intentions, but to
see members get "reprimanded and basically reminded of their place " here on this forum
is, sorry to say ,also not what we all seem to think MJ stands for , i mean simply for not agreeing with someone elses opinion. I'm perfectly capable of forming my own opinions .
You should go back through the thread because people definitely said that he wasnt planning it.. And thats fine they are entitled to their opinion as I am mine..
I didnt put anybody in "their place"
chillax
I was just saying that its CRAZY to me that people can think that and im allowed to say that its my opinion..
To the others yeah i think im gonna :D
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What's wrong in asking, after reading all 9 parts, "Ok, but is Michael alive/When will he come back ?", especially since STUDY/TS said that he had important information about MJ and the hoax, but, of course, he's not willing to tell us, yet...
After all, we are all here because we believe Michael's death was a hoax and we want to know what happened in June 25th and to know if he's OK and IF HE'S COMING BACK. If we wanted to read about JFK, illuminati, NWO, the end of the world, we could've done that by entering the specific websites related to those subjects.
Is true that STUDY/TS put a lot of effort in his theories, but that's all it is, theories. And we're still back to scratch and the burning questions are still unanswered: Why did Michael had to fake his death ? Was it because of the NWO, they wanted to kill him? Don't get me wrong, but I just can't comprehend that Michael had to fake his death for the only purpose to change the world ! He must've had no other choice, his life must've been in danger to do something that huge.
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@ Maura..oh , i was'nt referring to you when i mentioned certain people putting others in their place
so yeah chillax... actually it was one of the admins, which i find kind of wrong, everyone needs to just agree to disagree as usual.
BUT MAURA :!: :!: :!: thought u was putting up a new vid tonight girl??? seriously can't wait for it( just like i can't wait for MJ to return...) 8-)
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Is true that STUDY/TS put a lot of effort in his theories, but that's all it is, theories. And we're still back to scratch and the burning questions are still unanswered: Why did Michael had to fake his death ? Was it because of the NWO, they wanted to kill him? Don't get me wrong, but I just can't comprehend that Michael had to fake his death for the only purpose to change the world ! He must've had no other choice, his life must've been in danger to do something that huge.
AMEN, that is what I believe too, thank you so much!
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
FINALLY! I thought that there was something wrong with me for feeling the same way! People are being so lazy. I just posted in the www.thisisalsoit.com (http://www.thisisalsoit.com) section venting about this. It's ridiculous.
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What's wrong in asking, after reading all 9 parts, "Ok, but is Michael alive/When will he come back ?", especially since STUDY/TS said that he had important information about MJ and the hoax, but, of course, he's not willing to tell us, yet...
After all, we are all here because we believe Michael's death was a hoax and we want to know what happened in June 25th and to know if he's OK and IF HE'S COMING BACK. If we wanted to read about JFK, illuminati, NWO, the end of the world, we could've done that by entering the specific websites related to those subjects.
Is true that STUDY/TS put a lot of effort in his theories, but that's all it is, theories. And we're still back to scratch and the burning questions are still unanswered: Why did Michael had to fake his death ? Was it because of the NWO, they wanted to kill him? Don't get me wrong, but I just can't comprehend that Michael had to fake his death for the only purpose to change the world ! He must've had no other choice, his life must've been in danger to do something that huge.
I believe there's nothing wrong with asking but it's like me telling you "I can't tell you what time is it" and you ask me back "ok but.. what time is it?!".. He/she said that cant tell us when is he coming back, so I don't think is wrong to ask again but i certanly don't find the purpose on that.
Besides that, I believe that we had so much expectatives on TIAI and when we found that is just someone like you and me using a creative way to put his/her point (we use this forum he choose a web page with redirections) a lot of ppl were feelling kind of dissapointed...
But the truth is that no one ever told us that TIAI was the solution to our doubts or that when TIAI finally shows up, it will be the last piece of the puzzle and we wont be ever again in the place where we are so far in the investigation... So, everything I say is that here is ppl who is judging him just because didn't have any new information, but no one ever told us that it was supposed to be something else that what it really was.
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What's wrong in asking, after reading all 9 parts, "Ok, but is Michael alive/When will he come back ?", especially since STUDY/TS said that he had important information about MJ and the hoax, but, of course, he's not willing to tell us, yet...
After all, we are all here because we believe Michael's death was a hoax and we want to know what happened in June 25th and to know if he's OK and IF HE'S COMING BACK. If we wanted to read about JFK, illuminati, NWO, the end of the world, we could've done that by entering the specific websites related to those subjects.
Is true that STUDY/TS put a lot of effort in his theories, but that's all it is, theories. And we're still back to scratch and the burning questions are still unanswered: Why did Michael had to fake his death ? Was it because of the NWO, they wanted to kill him? Don't get me wrong, but I just can't comprehend that Michael had to fake his death for the only purpose to change the world ! He must've had no other choice, his life must've been in danger to do something that huge.
I believe there's nothing wrong with asking but it's like me telling you "I can't tell you what time is it" and you ask me back "ok but.. what time is it?!".. He/she said that cant tell us when is he coming back, so I don't think is wrong to ask again but i certanly don't find the purpose on that.
Besides that, I believe that we had so much expectatives on TIAI and when we found that is just someone like you and me using a creative way to put his/her point (we use this forum he choose a web page with redirections) a lot of ppl were feelling kind of dissapointed...
But the truth is that no one ever told us that TIAI was the solution to our doubts or that when TIAI finally shows up, it will be the last piece of the puzzle and we wont be ever again in the place where we are so far in the investigation... So, everything I say is that here is ppl who is judging him just because didn't have any new information, but no one ever told us that it was supposed to be something else that what it really was.
sorry but here is a direct quote from TS's orS.T.U.D.Y.'s reveal post:
There are many other things which should make it very clear that I am not faking it; but I won’t continue with them here—you will have to read all 9 parts to get the rest of them. And although I am not MJ, I do have information about MJ and the hoax that has not yet been fully understood. Again, anyone who reads all 9 parts will have no doubt that I do have some very important information. I am not going to say right now how I got this information; many would not believe me if I told you. But I will reveal this when the time is right. Anyway, how I got the information is not nearly as important as whether or not the information is true. So I am not asking anyone to believe what I say based upon my claim of where it came from; rather, I am asking you to let the evidence speak for itself.
so if i'm not mistaken this person is actually telling us that they have certain important imformation, though they won't say how they got this information because even if they did, well we would not believe them,
how conveniant...
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What's wrong in asking, after reading all 9 parts, "Ok, but is Michael alive/When will he come back ?", especially since STUDY/TS said that he had important information about MJ and the hoax, but, of course, he's not willing to tell us, yet...
After all, we are all here because we believe Michael's death was a hoax and we want to know what happened in June 25th and to know if he's OK and IF HE'S COMING BACK. If we wanted to read about JFK, illuminati, NWO, the end of the world, we could've done that by entering the specific websites related to those subjects.
Is true that STUDY/TS put a lot of effort in his theories, but that's all it is, theories. And we're still back to scratch and the burning questions are still unanswered: Why did Michael had to fake his death ? Was it because of the NWO, they wanted to kill him? Don't get me wrong, but I just can't comprehend that Michael had to fake his death for the only purpose to change the world ! He must've had no other choice, his life must've been in danger to do something that huge.
agreed!
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
FINALLY! I thought that there was something wrong with me for feeling the same way! People are being so lazy. I just posted in the http://www.thisisalsoit.com (http://www.thisisalsoit.com) section venting about this. It's ridiculous.
oh my dear there is nothing wrong with you for feeling the same way...just don't expect everyone to jump on the bandwagon and feel the same way about it you do...
As for people being lazy tsk tsk tsk now thats just plain mean and nasty
i'm sure MJ would not appreciate people calling others lazy simply because they don't all share the same opinion on things...
oh... this of course is all said with L.O.V.E.
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
FINALLY! I thought that there was something wrong with me for feeling the same way! People are being so lazy. I just posted in the http://www.thisisalsoit.com (http://www.thisisalsoit.com) section venting about this. It's ridiculous.
oh my dear there is nothing wrong with you for feeling the same way...just don't expect everyone to jump on the bandwagon and feel the same way about it you do...
As for people being lazy tsk tsk tsk now thats just plain mean and nasty
i'm sure MJ would not appreciate people calling others lazy simply because they don't all share the same opinion on things...
oh... this of course is all said with L.O.V.E.
I think certain people expecting something to just magically appear out of nowhere is lazy and I have the right to feel that way. I'm not being mean and nasty at all nor am I accusing anyone specific of falling into that lazy group but there are people who are just sitting here doing nothing but complaining. And I am not calling someone lazy for not agreeing with me, obviously there will be people to oppose it, that is not who I am referring to, I'm referring to the people that can't stop complaining for 2 seconds to actually try to solve this thing. And more than ever, that was said, with TONS and OODLES of L.O.V.E. =] *not being mean or sarcastic*
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This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important![/b]
FINALLY! I thought that there was something wrong with me for feeling the same way! People are being so lazy. I just posted in the http://www.thisisalsoit.com (http://www.thisisalsoit.com) section venting about this. It's ridiculous.
oh my dear there is nothing wrong with you for feeling the same way...just don't expect everyone to jump on the bandwagon and feel the same way about it you do...
As for people being lazy tsk tsk tsk now thats just plain mean and nasty
i'm sure MJ would not appreciate people calling others lazy simply because they don't all share the same opinion on things...
oh... this of course is all said with L.O.V.E.
I think certain people expecting something to just magically appear out of nowhere is lazy and I have the right to feel that way. I'm not being mean and nasty at all nor am I accusing anyone specific of falling into that lazy group but there are people who are just sitting here doing nothing but complaining. And I am not calling someone lazy for not agreeing with me, obviously there will be people to oppose it, that is not who I am referring to, I'm referring to the people that can't stop complaining for 2 seconds to actually try to solve this thing. And more than ever, that was said, with TONS and OODLES of L.O.V.E. =] *not being mean or sarcastic*[/quote]
and just exactly how is the TIAI reveal helping us to solve "this thing" ?
it's made up of plenty of stuff that was already being discussed here anyway...
again look at S.T.U.D.Y.'s reveal post where he/she states they have the info for a fact
but won't tell us because we probably would'nt believe them anyway...maybe they should stop beating around the bush and try us? Maybe that way more people here would be prompted to help MAKE THAT CHANGE because at least they would know they are not being taken for a ride AGAIN
I personally have been making a change for a long time now and absolutely agree that a change is needed for our world, there is no denying that...but we all started out here for the reason of believing MJ is still with us right, because of our love for this beautiful, mistreated man,we've been all over the place with this hoax ,so when someone comes on here and basically dangles info at you, but dangles it just out of your reach when all you want and need is confirmation of what you've been hoping and praying for for so long, i don't find it "lazy" of people to just ask about MJ's return.
If someone came here with absolute proof that MJ had indeed passed away in june, this would not stop me from making the change needed...
and i really was not being sarcastic in my earlier post when i said its all with L.O.V.E.
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
Are all you people sure I haven't read all 9 parts? You guys are psychics now? My point ....stop telling people "I have inside info...trust me...but I can't reveal it just yet"....then don't say anything at all until you are able to say it fully....stop making people restless, sleepless, anxious, etc...it's not NICE !!!!
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I went through all 9 posts and I'm very impressed!
S.T.U.D.Y. points out the message and I'm sure, THIS IS IT!
He/She hit the nail square on the head and after understanding the message it actually doesn't really matter, if it's a hoax or not.
Don't misunderstand me: I want Michael to be alive, happy and safe! And I want him back!
But it shouldn't change the reception of his message, if he actually died.
It would still be his message and would still be what he wanted us to do and fight for.
If he actually had died and we'd ignore this message, it would've been all for nothing. Don't give him that feeling.
Are you listening?
Thank you S.T.U.D.Y.!
Thank you Michael!
L.O.V.E.
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A lot of people are trippin'...
Michael more than likely has taken YEARS and I mean YEARS to plan this..
You honestly think this is going to be revealed in 6 lousy months?
Oh..We have lots to learn.. Lots..
Sit tight and enjoy the ride...
I love the ride Michael ;)
I hear you TSM, we have to let him breathe and come back in his own time. Patience is a virtue my dear ones. It truly is a virtue. Remember that good things come to those who wait. Things will all work themselves out in their own time.
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading the messages posted here in disbelieve...
This is a process, to make people aware of things... Unless you put effort into it and start reading up on ALL TIAI has presented, you won't learn a damn thing.
Why is is that I keep seeing messages like "When is MJ gonna come back" all the time? Are people too lazy to try to figure things out? Too lazy to put any effort into anything? Does it go too deep? Are they perhaps scared..?
My advice - start READING, open your eyes, realize what is going on and act upon it.
I don't care shit about who is running TIAI, it's the message the redirects brought that's important!
THANK YOU!!!! Someone actually sees this the way I do!! This was never called the "Michael Jackson Reveal" it's the TIAI REVEAL! It really saddens me to see so many that are missing the point. We need to stop focusing on when or how MJ is coming back and FOCUS ON THE REASON FOR THE HOAX! This isn't a game.
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WOOOOOOWWW :shock: I missed alot today-so much is freaking going on! I am glad for this-from what I have read of the 9 parts(and its alot to take in and I have not read it all yet,but I will) it has alot to do with the NWO. I am glad more people are open to studying about this. Wether or not, and if when and where, Michael comes back,this is very important. I was never a believer that there was such a thing as the illuminati,and if there were I did not believe it effected me. I didnt want to look into it,because it is very deep and has a very long history-very. After various conversations with my veteran uncle,who was adimant in presenting me with proving material,I could no longer pretend not to see the sad truth.
To fully understand it you have to go back and look at history and events and how they were presented to the public and then what the public DID NOT KNOW. Most things that happen are just a smoke screen to distract so the government can implement things that the public DOES NOT WANT. Anyone who ha ever tried to speak out has had to go into hiding,is called a lunatic or has been killed. This is a very deep rooted thing and cannot be understood in one sitting.
I understand wanting to know if and when he will be back. If he is ok. I understand having an immediate disbelief of people who say "I cannot tell you"-because of all the trolls we had on the other forum, I try to keep it in mind,however,that if someone does know he is alive ,that they cannot come on an internet board and just openly say that. The fact that we still find things and sources like TIAI are continuing without becoming a dead end,then he is still alive.
MJ always said that we were not being told the truth-he said many times that there was a conspiracy against him ,and guess what? He was written off as a narcissitic nut...just like conspiracy theorist and illuminati investigators are. We know MJ read ALOT and was a self learned intelligent person,who loved history. Therefore is not far fetched that he knew about the illuminati.
It is interesting that this happened with TIAI today,and also today the FBI files revealed all the threats on MJ.
Mo-liked the picture
Souza-liked your "wow" comment
TSM-you should make that thread,as everything you do is just awesome
P.S. TIAI was never shoved down anyones throat-if this part of the investigation does not jive with you and your theory or findings,simply do not read the threads regarding it. I respectfully dont go to nine million posts about the 8 dozen doubles and or twins/clones MJ may or may not have had. :lol:
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@ Maura..oh , i was'nt referring to you when i mentioned certain people putting others in their place
so yeah chillax... actually it was one of the admins, which i find kind of wrong, everyone needs to just agree to disagree as usual.
BUT MAURA :!: :!: :!: thought u was putting up a new vid tonight girl??? seriously can't wait for it( just like i can't wait for MJ to return...) 8-)
IM UPLOADING IT NOW!@!!!!
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“Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is to live everything. Live the questions”
Rainer Maria
“The keys to patience are acceptance and faith. Accept things as they are, and look realistically at the world around you. Have faith in yourself and in the direction you have chosen.”
Ralph Marston quotes
Remember we ALL have this wonderful thing called "choice".
"Do you care, have you a part
In the deepest emotions of my own heart
In your beuaty, I've known the how
Of timeless bliss, THIS MOMENT OF NOW"
Michael Jackson - Planet Earth
Please don't lose or miss "this moment of now". I hope each of you "live everything", and take something positive from this very important journey. Otherwise it was all for naught.
It is with the L.O.V.E. that I encourage each of you to really evaluate all the information without an expectation of "the answer", it will come in due time.
Wishing each of you Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year.
Love each other, this is important for our collective world. ;)
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As Jack Webb said, "just the facts ma'am".
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After reading all those posts, I'm seriously thinking to read ALL the forum before I say something that others already said.. because if some are gonna react like this just because someone posted something that have been already discussed... then maybe the best for the new ones like me is to shut up, sit down and read as fast as we can so the we post without receiving these means comments about "nothing new" "just facts" "not even a proof" "how convenient" "waste of time" and stuffs like that.
I really came here thinking that it was a huge community of ppl how had accepted LOVE in their hearts and joined as a group because of and for Michael, including the music, the ideas, the care about other, the respect for your brother (and with these I'm reffering that we are all brothers and sisters) and most of all.. LOVE. And I though that it was like that just until this thread.
Lots of L.O.V.E
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I think that you rae all messing up with this.. I understood the post of Mo in another way, and is kind of the way I think too... Ppl here is saying things about the 9 parts of TIAI without reading them, and they are saying things like "he never said whe michael is coming back"... yes! he is not telling us that because he does't know it either, and he is clear in his post refering to this... so what mo is saying is that ppl is posting without knowing, and that they are too lazy to read so much like the 9 parts but they have opinion formed as if they have really read it... and I think the same way. Of course each one can have his own opinion, but you can't point your finger to someone who you don't even know what he is talking about.
Another thing is that each one of us has been speculating about Michael's odd things, he's come back etc, and suddenly someone get more creative than posting in a forum and he get's this.. like if it was the first one of doing some speculation .. is not fair.
And finnaly, we all talk about spreading love, about michaels message, about how the world is falling down.. and when someone finds a way to do it.. to make us think and be alert.. when someone finds a way to make that thousands of eyes look to the same direction, everyone is pointing as him.
TS has many bible influences for me, and I don't agree with that because i'm not a religious girl, but it doesn't mean that he/she hadn't make a wonderful job that requieres time and patient, and certanly doesn't mean that i will ask proof that nbone of us have just because she/he creates a web pages for showing images.
21/12 TIAI it will be revealed.. and it was it like that, the post on you tube didn't say "21/12 Michael is coming back to your tv so watch all day" so please, respect the job of others, even if we are not agree with them in 100%
Lost of L.O.V.E
no i perfectly understand. yes, i read all 9 parts. but Mo or anyone should not get furious when one of us asks when Michael is coming back. we want to know, so we ask. even if we did read the 9 parts, it does not mean we will all comprehend it the same way. some of us like figurative language, others like our answers direct. it does not mean we were lazy in reading it because many of us did. but the way we comprehend things vary depending on each person. i personally don't agree with how Michael's message was approached, through a website with redirections. is that not why forum boards are created, for everyone to express their theories, opinions, etc.? that's just my opinion. but seriously, i don't get why some are getting mad at how some of us don't agree with the process of TIAI.
TIAI Revealed, Part 6: “This Is It” Movie Rating (R20-R28)
Then what about the MJ “Return” to public view, when will that be? Well, the sad thing is that potentially he could’ve returned at Halloween; but we were not ready. We did not understand the NWO conspiracy aspect of the hoax, or the seriousness of it; in fact, the old MJHD was forbidding discussion on this subject! And just a few days later, it went down and was out for about a week. We simply were not ready for MJ to return yet; if he had, in all the excitement, people would’ve had little or no interest in studying into the NWO aspects of the hoax.
Since people were not ready for the MJ return at Halloween: immediately after the TII movie was released, TIAI was set up. The purpose of TIAI was (and still is) to give MJ fans, and especially hoax believers, a better understanding and bigger picture of the hoax and the reasons for it; this in turn would help prepare the way for the MJ “Return”!
So what we have here is your answer! He could have returned on Halloween but because people are not receiving, understanding and believing the REASONS behind this entire adventure, Michael's return has been delayed. This delay will continue until Michael feels that enough people are understanding and accepting the WHY behind it all.
"Since people were not ready for the MJ return at Halloween, TIAI was set up"
So TIAI was set up to HELP people understand the WHY to "prepare the way for the MJ “Return" Do you think it might be possible that Michael may have been involved in the decision to set up TIAI? STUDY has stated that they are not Michael but this does not mean that Michael has no involvement in TIAI. I really think that many forum members are not looking at TIAI with an open mind and are not considering the possibilities here. I suggest that instead of focusing on then When, try looking at the WHY. Maybe do some research on the topics presented on your own. You have already been told that the reasons behind the "hoax", it is up to you to research them, make an informed conclusion, accept the message of change and take action. When Michael feels enough people are "awakened" to the WHY, to the reality, then we are ready and he will "Return".
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At the end of the day, all that matters is LOVE...
Open your hearts and minds, and in time all shall be clear.
Love to all of you!
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and just exactly how is the TIAI reveal helping us to solve "this thing" ?
it's made up of plenty of stuff that was already being discussed here anyway...
again look at S.T.U.D.Y.'s reveal post where he/she states they have the info for a fact
but won't tell us because we probably would'nt believe them anyway...maybe they should stop beating around the bush and try us? Maybe that way more people here would be prompted to help MAKE THAT CHANGE because at least they would know they are not being taken for a ride AGAIN
IN MY OPINION, and note that I air MY OPINION here:
It's a process to make people AWARE of what is going on. If you don't research, read, learn and understand, you won't become aware. If S.T.U.D.Y., TS or any Anonymous poster would have told you plain out who he/she is and where all the info he/she has came from, you would not have read the full explanation and wouldn't have learned anything.
TIAI pointed out to conspiracies and NWO, and those issues were rejected by a lot of people until TIAI pointed out to them. Me? Guilty as charged... I skipped the "Illuminati" threads as well until TIAI forced me to look into this whole issue. After researching it, and not reading up on the conspiracies and NWO only, a lot of things became clear to me.
Take a good look at this thread: viewtopic.php?f=78&t=1128&start=0 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=1128&start=0) How come there are so many events/incidents/issues in this hoax and the media reports surrounding it which point out to conspiracies? We would not have found these parallels if we would not have researched beyond the conspiracies.
In my opinion Mike is teaching us, but in order to fully understand you have to be willing to learn...
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I must say that reading your post is like drinking from a clear source of water ...
The vision of things is wonderfully clear, I appreciate your intelligence and is not a compliment. I really think so.
You explain very well the deep meaning of what happens to me you're really a bright window! :)
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and just exactly how is the TIAI reveal helping us to solve "this thing" ?
it's made up of plenty of stuff that was already being discussed here anyway...
again look at S.T.U.D.Y.'s reveal post where he/she states they have the info for a fact
but won't tell us because we probably would'nt believe them anyway...maybe they should stop beating around the bush and try us? Maybe that way more people here would be prompted to help MAKE THAT CHANGE because at least they would know they are not being taken for a ride AGAIN
IN MY OPINION, and note that I air MY OPINION here:
It's a process to make people AWARE of what is going on. If you don't research, read, learn and understand, you won't become aware. If S.T.U.D.Y., TS or any Anonymous poster would have told you plain out who he/she is and where all the info he/she has came from, you would not have read the full explanation and wouldn't have learned anything.
TIAI pointed out to conspiracies and NWO, and those issues were rejected by a lot of people until TIAI pointed out to them. Me? Guilty as charged... I skipped the "Illuminati" threads as well until TIAI forced me to look into this whole issue. After researching it, and not reading up on the conspiracies and NWO only, a lot of things became clear to me.
Take a good look at this thread: http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpb ... 28&start=0 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=1128&start=0) How come there are so many events/incidents/issues in this hoax and the media reports surrounding it which point out to conspiracies? We would not have found these parallels if we would not have researched beyond the conspiracies.
In my opinion Mike is teaching us, but in order to fully understand you have to be willing to learn...
I agree with you wholeheartedly Mo
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Coming back on halloween?i remember suggesting that on the old mjhd.now that i think of it,if thats the reason for the hoax, then people here werent even close to being 'ready'.:lol:these so called 'newly soldiers of love' STILL arent either to be quite frank with you from the way i see ppl acting....it honestly doesnt take a whole lot or mj just to push us to find out about NWO and 2012.i have been 'aware' but i am not joining some virtual fem~army just to show i am listening.we cant always just do things through the internet to change the world.it is very possible didnt plan this thing for years.after the 2003 trials would he really be in the mood for hoaxing his death to do whatever the CURRENTLY suggested purpose of the hoax? Q?:Wasnt s.t.u.d.y. The person who said there was a 0.0000001 chance that mj WOULDNT show up at the premier?:?Woot?plz verify..just wondering...
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I just can't believe that ppl keep saying that this army stuff is new and created by TS... flash news! we are not using uniforms or signing any paper, in my case is a reafirmation that i support Michael, and I'm not the only one..stop talking as if it is ridiculous to put a label to the things that most of all have already started to do some time ago.
I really don't get the need to be mean or sarcastic when you don't think like the others.. really.. I don't get it.
Kisses
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Wow something told me not to come in here....but lol @ people thinking mike planned this in like a month...lmfao...seriously?really look @ that statement and think about everything
I hate 2 be rude but people need 2 use logic before they say things....no wonder they "don't get" tiai
Whoa WHOA!
My comment was actually only like half serious..
Let me back up..
Are their people that ACTUALLY believe that Michael Jackson didn't plan this hoax for years???
Are you FLIPPIN' serious????
Im not even trying to knock anybody, but you have got to be freaking kidding me if you HONESTLY believe that Michael woke up one day and was like "Yeah im gonna fake my death cuz i dont want to do these shows"....
Ok we are all entitled to our own opinions, but to suggest that Michael Jackson is such a coward in that way is unacceptable from where I said on my opinion..
There are plenty of ways that Michael could have gotten out of doing those shows WITHOUT resorting to um.. Death?
Of course this is just my opinion, but I think some people need to open their minds a LITTLE bit more for this..
Michael has been talking about bailing for YEARS..
YEARS..
If you want me to seriously dedicate a thread to all of the examples of his want/need to bounce out of the industry and prove a lesson, let me know..
I'd love to do it..
:P
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TIAI Revealed, Part 6: “This Is It” Movie Rating (R20-R28)
Then what about the MJ “Return” to public view, when will that be? Well, the sad thing is that potentially he could’ve returned at Halloween; but we were not ready. We did not understand the NWO conspiracy aspect of the hoax, or the seriousness of it; in fact, the old MJHD was forbidding discussion on this subject! And just a few days later, it went down and was out for about a week. We simply were not ready for MJ to return yet; if he had, in all the excitement, people would’ve had little or no interest in studying into the NWO aspects of the hoax.
Since people were not ready for the MJ return at Halloween: immediately after the TII movie was released, TIAI was set up. The purpose of TIAI was (and still is) to give MJ fans, and especially hoax believers, a better understanding and bigger picture of the hoax and the reasons for it; this in turn would help prepare the way for the MJ “Return”!
So what we have here is your answer! He could have returned on Halloween but because people are not receiving, understanding and believing the REASONS behind this entire adventure, Michael's return has been delayed. This delay will continue until Michael feels that enough people are understanding and accepting the WHY behind it all.
"Since people were not ready for the MJ return at Halloween, TIAI was set up"
So TIAI was set up to HELP people understand the WHY to "prepare the way for the MJ “Return" Do you think it might be possible that Michael may have been involved in the decision to set up TIAI? STUDY has stated that they are not Michael but this does not mean that Michael has no involvement in TIAI. I really think that many forum members are not looking at TIAI with an open mind and are not considering the possibilities here. I suggest that instead of focusing on then When, try looking at the WHY. Maybe do some research on the topics presented on your own. You have already been told that the reasons behind the "hoax", it is up to you to research them, make an informed conclusion, accept the message of change and take action. When Michael feels enough people are "awakened" to the WHY, to the reality, then we are ready and he will "Return".
Thanks for pointing this out...obviously they did not read....at this rate mike shouldn't even come back
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TIAI Revealed, Part 6: “This Is It” Movie Rating (R20-R28)
Then what about the MJ “Return” to public view, when will that be? Well, the sad thing is that potentially he could’ve returned at Halloween; but we were not ready. We did not understand the NWO conspiracy aspect of the hoax, or the seriousness of it; in fact, the old MJHD was forbidding discussion on this subject! And just a few days later, it went down and was out for about a week. We simply were not ready for MJ to return yet; if he had, in all the excitement, people would’ve had little or no interest in studying into the NWO aspects of the hoax.
Since people were not ready for the MJ return at Halloween: immediately after the TII movie was released, TIAI was set up. The purpose of TIAI was (and still is) to give MJ fans, and especially hoax believers, a better understanding and bigger picture of the hoax and the reasons for it; this in turn would help prepare the way for the MJ “Return”!
So what we have here is your answer! He could have returned on Halloween but because people are not receiving, understanding and believing the REASONS behind this entire adventure, Michael's return has been delayed. This delay will continue until Michael feels that enough people are understanding and accepting the WHY behind it all.
"Since people were not ready for the MJ return at Halloween, TIAI was set up"
So TIAI was set up to HELP people understand the WHY to "prepare the way for the MJ “Return" Do you think it might be possible that Michael may have been involved in the decision to set up TIAI? STUDY has stated that they are not Michael but this does not mean that Michael has no involvement in TIAI. I really think that many forum members are not looking at TIAI with an open mind and are not considering the possibilities here. I suggest that instead of focusing on then When, try looking at the WHY. Maybe do some research on the topics presented on your own. You have already been told that the reasons behind the "hoax", it is up to you to research them, make an informed conclusion, accept the message of change and take action. When Michael feels enough people are "awakened" to the WHY, to the reality, then we are ready and he will "Return".
Thanks for pointing this out...obviously they did not read....at this rate mike shouldn't even come back
SEE :!: here we go again...
stop with "oh, they obviously did'nt read it" remarks
i'm asking again: why do you believe that it depends solely on the members of this forum on
whether MJ returns or not???
Because thats what i'm getting from all these posts and to be honest i just think that sounds like people are getting rather full of themselves...
Now please take note i'm NOT attacking anyone here , i just want an explanation on that.
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@mjhunny.... i must agree with you, slotov krapov
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TIAI Revealed, Part 6: “This Is It” Movie Rating (R20-R28)
Then what about the MJ “Return” to public view, when will that be? Well, the sad thing is that potentially he could’ve returned at Halloween; but we were not ready. We did not understand the NWO conspiracy aspect of the hoax, or the seriousness of it; in fact, the old MJHD was forbidding discussion on this subject! And just a few days later, it went down and was out for about a week. We simply were not ready for MJ to return yet; if he had, in all the excitement, people would’ve had little or no interest in studying into the NWO aspects of the hoax.
Since people were not ready for the MJ return at Halloween: immediately after the TII movie was released, TIAI was set up. The purpose of TIAI was (and still is) to give MJ fans, and especially hoax believers, a better understanding and bigger picture of the hoax and the reasons for it; this in turn would help prepare the way for the MJ “Return”!
So what we have here is your answer! He could have returned on Halloween but because people are not receiving, understanding and believing the REASONS behind this entire adventure, Michael's return has been delayed. This delay will continue until Michael feels that enough people are understanding and accepting the WHY behind it all.
"Since people were not ready for the MJ return at Halloween, TIAI was set up"
So TIAI was set up to HELP people understand the WHY to "prepare the way for the MJ “Return" Do you think it might be possible that Michael may have been involved in the decision to set up TIAI? STUDY has stated that they are not Michael but this does not mean that Michael has no involvement in TIAI. I really think that many forum members are not looking at TIAI with an open mind and are not considering the possibilities here. I suggest that instead of focusing on then When, try looking at the WHY. Maybe do some research on the topics presented on your own. You have already been told that the reasons behind the "hoax", it is up to you to research them, make an informed conclusion, accept the message of change and take action. When Michael feels enough people are "awakened" to the WHY, to the reality, then we are ready and he will "Return".
Thanks for pointing this out...obviously they did not read....at this rate mike shouldn't even come back
SEE :!: here we go again...
stop with "oh, they obviously did'nt read it" remarks
i'm asking again: why do you believe that it depends solely on the members of this forum on
whether MJ returns or not???
Because thats what i'm getting from all these posts and to be honest i just think that sounds like people are getting rather full of themselves...
Now please take note i'm NOT attacking anyone here , i just want an explanation on that.
The return does not depend solely on the members of THIS Forum. Do you realize how many forums there are worldwide? What is happening on this forum, is a reflection of what is happening on them all. Many of the forums where following the TIAI redirections and other forums have posters that have discovered the WHY behind the hoax on their own. All of the forums are also a good measure of how the general public would react once Michael returns. If it so hard for fans to accept the reasons, how hard will it be for non-fans?
There are thousands maybe even millions of people worldwide who already believe in the NWO conspiracy and many other related topics in the MJ "hoax". Many of these people are not aware that MJ has done this "hoax" to begin with but when MJ returns and starts disclosing information about his reasons, these people may also be mobilized to help change the direction the world is headed towards. We are only the beginning, the more people who are aware of all of this, the easier it is to continue to spread the message and actually force change to occur.
This has absolutely nothing to do with people "getting full of themselves", I don't see that at all. For myself, it seems a true revelation has occurred and my eyes are wide open.
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"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them". Galileo Galilei .....Search, read, filter, evaluate....then and only then come to your OWN conclusions. If something is still nagging you, then investigate some more. Follow your instincts they are usually right.
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Misha, again you took the words out of my mouth...
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Misha, again you took the words out of my mouth...
LOLLLLL!!!
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SEE :!: here we go again...
stop with "oh, they obviously did'nt read it" remarks
i'm asking again: why do you believe that it depends solely on the members of this forum on
whether MJ returns or not???
Because thats what i'm getting from all these posts and to be honest i just think that sounds like people are getting rather full of themselves...
Now please take note i'm NOT attacking anyone here , i just want an explanation on that.
because if you READ it states that mj was going to return on holloween BUT DID NOT because he felt that we did not get the full message yet..serenity even HIGHLIGHTED the specific :lol:
back in september tmz and the post by study were pointing at a holloween return, remember tmz were saying things like " arrest late october...ect and the movie was only to play for 2 weeks and then the dvd would be out by xmas,which we could assume has hoax info as well...well all of that has been pushed back because he did not make his grand return as planned...i.e. tmz stating that the investigation will go thru until 2010
dr. conrads investigation = investigation into the hoax
so the reason i said that mike is not going to come back is because its now xmas and people still dont get it...he added a lot more clues that were not just tmz and interview based, they were actually pretty clear messages and yet most still dont get it
so if people dont get it, the complete reason for the hoax is not complete, there for no return...it would defeat the purpose of the hoax to return but not get your message across right????
and no one is full of themselves...and no i dont not think it is based on the people of this forum, it is solely based on mike BUT obviously he had an agenda and wanted to get his message across and its has not got across...and like i stated before it looks like it will never get across because the clues were way more obvious than they were pre holloween and now study has said IN PLAIN ENGLISH why he has not come back and when he will and yet people still "dont get" it
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I'm with you MJhunny...I honestly can't understand how people just believe things like this, hook, line, and sinker. I feel like I walked into a cult meeting. :lol: I mean, believe what you want, but don't expect everyone else to...the holier than thou attitudes, because you think you have a better understanding (which you don't), are ridiculous imo.
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I'm with you MJhunny...I honestly can't understand how people just believe things like this, hook, line, and sinker. I feel like I walked into a cult meeting. :lol: I mean, believe what you want, but don't expect everyone else too...the holier than thou attitudes, because you think you have a better understanding (which you don't), is ridiculous imo.
:roll: and obviously i have a better understanding or else they would still not be asking question when it is written right there and she still doesnt get it but obviously she, and you, want to get it or you would be in another thread, not here reading post and name calling like a child :roll:
what i dont understand is how people listen to these glenda tapes or cassandra or derek whoever but yet when someone like study post things, with PLENTY of evidence, you think its fake??? but yet someone on a LKL blog can sign on as mj and give out "clues" with no evidence, but they will beLIEve in that
what i dont understand is how i, and others, are buying everything, hook,line and sinker but yet we are on a site where people believe mike is alive :lol: and we can all agree that it is a hoax and we can all agree that he is going to come back and we can all agree that he wants us to know he is alive and we can all agree that he has people giving us clues but yet when someone post the clues, answers and evidence were brainwashed followers :roll:
and trust me i do not buy everything i am fed, i use logical before i believe something someone says..and if someone presents enough evidence i will think about that statement and rationally decided if it makes sense...
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:roll: and obviously i have a better understanding or else they would still not be asking question when it is written right there and she still doesnt get it but obviously she, and you, want to get it or you would be in another thread, not here reading post and name calling like a child :roll:
I browse all threads...that's my job here as a mod. I'm not trying to understand anything, I just don't buy what they're peddling. And I don't see where I called you any names? Like I said before, believe what you want...just don't get on someone's case because they don't. I only posted to support the people who are getting slammed because they don't believe what you do. Anyway, I didn't come in here to argue...each to their own.
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why you ppl constantly change what we say?.. I'm not only saying about study's post, but also to our reply..WHEN did someone write that Michael' returns depends solely of this forum?'.. WHERE did someone even mention that we believe we are the center of the world and that's why someone surely will come to leave clues here?.. How many users can you point at and say "he/she told Michael was a God!!"? C'mon!! it's a forum, we are supposed to discuss things and of course that ppl can not agree at some point, but no one told you "hey! you!! if you don't believe in study you better keep going because then this isn't your place!" and the same for the cult at michael that u said....but either when none of that happened you post things that, as i see it, response to a conversation that only had place in your own mind.
IT WOULD BE SO MUCH EASY IF YOU ANSWE TO WHAT PPL REALLY SAID AND NOT TO WHAT YOU THINK THAT PPL SAID...allow me to say my friend, those are 2 different thing, so, when you have some time be our guest and read the whole thread again.
each one knows if my post is reffered to you or not.
Lot of L.O.V.E and please stop trying to hurt the others calling them names, because that obviously shows that you didn't even get the first part of michael's wishes..LOVE and PEACE.
sorry about my english :P
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what i dont understand is how people listen to these glenda tapes or cassandra or derek whoever but yet when someone like study post things, with PLENTY of evidence, you think its fake??? but yet someone on a LKL blog can sign on as mj and give out "clues" with no evidence, but they will beLIEve in that
Here's MY OPINION on that:
A lot of people need things to be s.p.e.l.l.e.d. o.u.t. to them. If it's not spelled out, they either don't catch it, or don't put effort into understanding it. It's not their fault, it's what they were taught. That is why the fakers have so many followers.
I came to this conclusion because of the reactions we got on our 'Michael Jackson's wake up call' videos. In these videos we also literally spelled out what has happened and what needs to be done. Many people sent us messages saying "Thank you so much, now I finally understand what this is all about".
My advice again is to read all 9 posts regarding TIAI, follow the links given in these posts, research, read and learn. I'm not saying this to insult anyone, I'm saying this to make people aware of the fact that there is MUCH more to this.
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what i dont understand is how people listen to these glenda tapes or cassandra or derek whoever but yet when someone like study post things, with PLENTY of evidence, you think its fake??? but yet someone on a LKL blog can sign on as mj and give out "clues" with no evidence, but they will beLIEve in that
Here's MY OPINION on that:
A lot of people need things to be s.p.e.l.l.e.d. o.u.t. to them. If it's not spelled out, they either don't catch it, or don't put effort into understanding it. It's not their fault, it's what they were taught. That is why the fakers have so many followers.
I came to this conclusion because of the reactions we got on our 'Michael Jackson's wake up call' videos. In these videos we also literally spelled out what has happened and what needs to be done. Many people sent us messages saying "Thank you so much, now I finally understand what this is all about".
My advice again is to read all 9 posts regarding TIAI, follow the links given in these posts, research, read and learn. I'm not saying this to insult anyone, I'm saying this to make people aware of the fact that there is MUCH more to this.
ok again i'm one of those people who actually has read into all of STUDY's posts and again
i applaud the amount of work that has gone into TIAI ,so no probs there, I am not a believer of the dereks and cassandras of this world and understand TIAI's posts and point's made, what i can't get my head around though is the fact that all or alot of these subjects
were previously discussed seperately and befor or even during TIAI's daily redirections ok,so alot of people were all ready into that stuff and others may have thrust things aside which they personally did'nt put much belief into such as for example NWO , illuminati,etc
now as a combination of all these things i can really understand that TIAI's reveal connects the dots for alot of people and they state "ok, now my eyes are open" i just have a hard time with post's that seem to blindly believe "MJ WAS going to come back at Halloween, because thats what STUDY said, BUT obviously he could'nt because not enough people were ready..." and such things as " Ooh STUDY is Marlon Jackson, because he signed with funeral message with STUDY PEACE..." and as Misha above says "at this rate , seeing as obviously no one has read all of Study's posts, Michael should'nt even bother coming back"
so i wonder what IT IS exactly, that cause all of you to believe and put so much faith into Study's words ? Now Mo: i'm not picking a fight here but i want to understand: you and Souza have gone from theory to theory and i've enjoyed every one of your theories in the past you've had movie theory, twin theory etc alot of members bitched about esp. the twin theory, but lately you've both been on the conspiracy theory , you say now that that was because you realised what TIAI was heading to and you understood and agreed and wanted to help along which is good. But during your twin theory , say if someone external had come along and convinced you you were on the right track, you would have stuck to your theory right? To your beliefs? I think you would. I just want to understand what it is exactly that now so convinces all of you that "This is it"
i noticed on another thread people were saying such things as "i've a pretty good idea who STUDY is" and " i definately know who study is" really? I mean, if it's Marlon who you think it is, do you seriously see Marlon Jackson behind his PC everyday redirecting websites and such? I'm not bitching here , i seriously want to know everyones thoughts
and i'm soo not into name calling. I love this forum and don't get the divide This is creating.
Please don't answer with"read it again and study" i swear i've done it all. If i read it anymore , seriously you can stick a fork in me , i'll be done :)
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Now Mo: i'm not picking a fight here but i want to understand: you and Souza have gone from theory to theory and i've enjoyed every one of your theories in the past you've had movie theory, twin theory etc alot of members bitched about esp. the twin theory, but lately you've both been on the conspiracy theory , you say now that that was because you realised what TIAI was heading to and you understood and agreed and wanted to help along which is good. But during your twin theory , say if someone external had come along and convinced you you were on the right track, you would have stuck to your theory right? To your beliefs? I think you would. I just want to understand what it is exactly that now so convinces all of you that "This is it"
The theories we have posted represent our thoughts and ideas at that time. That doesn't mean they are still the very same today. We are still convinced there is a 'twin brother', even if it's a non biological one - A person resembling Mike so closely that it's extremely difficult to see the differences.
We, like all of the hoax believers, are going through a process. During this process we learn, and new information becomes available. As you know Souza and I are very open minded, we look at the big picture and we think outside the box. Newly gained knowledge leads to new theories and beliefs. Conspiracies is one of these, as we spent countless hours on doing research, connecting the dots and then everything fell into place for us. It explains so much! That doesn't mean we forgot about our previous theories, those are still very much a part of what we believe has happened.
i noticed on another thread people were saying such things as "i've a pretty good idea who STUDY is" and " i definately know who study is" really? I mean, if it's Marlon who you think it is, do you seriously see Marlon Jackson behind his PC everyday redirecting websites and such? I'm not bitching here , i seriously want to know everyones thoughts
and i'm soo not into name calling. I love this forum and don't get the divide This is creating.
Please don't answer with"read it again and study" i swear i've done it all. If i read it anymore , seriously you can stick a fork in me , i'll be done :)
I, for one, never claimed to have an idea of or to know who S.T.U.D.Y. is. I even said I don't case **** who it is, because to me the message S.T.U.D.Y. / TS / TIAI brought is much more important than to know who the person behind it is. As far as I'm concerned it can be anyone, but I'm convinced Mike has help from people close to him who can be trusted.
In another thread I said: "There is no need to be divided, it doesn't matter if you 'believe' in TIAI or not. It has become quite clear that a lot of people got the message, weather it was delivered through TIAI or not. That, in my opinion, is what counts.".
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im almost ready.
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It's very disappointing to see the lack of understanding in this thread. It makes you think twice about posting on here. After all this is a forum, and I thought this was all about opinions. None of us here are in the know or are insiders. This is all speculation. No one's opinion is more valid than anyone else's. There is also a lot of assumption. Just because some one does not agree with the purpose or the validity of TIAI, it doesn't mean that they didn't read all nine posts or are lazy and just want a simple answer.
I read all nine posts. I made sure to thank TS because I thought at one point that it was someone who was just playing games with us and would eventually, disappear. I'm glad we weren't left hanging. I did see what he said about MJ possibly having returned on Halloween. I'm a bit skeptical of that. I feel like the same could be said for any other date. There have been many hints about something big taking place in January..and if it doesn't happen? is it because we are still not ready? And I don't know if I understand really why we are being led to believe this could be Marlon. The S.T.U.D.Y. peace signature is exclusive to him so we're definitely supposed to draw a connection there. I am also not so sure why the bible was quoted so often. BUT all I am trying to say, is that to me this isn't proof. It isn't proof that S.T.U.D.Y. has concrete evidence about whether Michael is alive and/if he will return. But don't all hate me for saying that, hear me out first. Even though I am skeptical, there is one thing that I am sure of, and that is that the message being spread by TIAI is of utmost importance. Many of us have been exposed to things and ideas that we weren't aware of before and perhaps are now living our lives differently. Maybe we're not taking everything for granted anymore; we've opened our eyes. That's what this whole thing is about: awareness.
I think we have all gained a lot from this whole journey, and we have S.T.U.D.Y to thank for that. He/she took upon themselves a great mission and managed to capture all of our attention. You must admit, that whether you were a believer or not, you'd check the site daily for redirects just out of curiosity. I think TS did it brilliantly and their investigation deserves an applause. The dedication and organization devoted to this is evident; amazing. What a better message to spread than one of love, awareness, and awakening? Beautifully done, TS. Thank you~
As beautiful as the message is, this does not prove to me that this person has any true evidence that Michael is alive or that he plans on returning. And I know some of you don't understand that and rely more on faith and believing, I do too. But after all the fakes we have had and all the false hopes given, we have to take things with a pinch of salt. This is the internet after all. I am not asking for a first and last name or the date and time of Michael's return. I am not that dimwitted, I know that cannot be and understand the risk of it all. What some of us are asking for are some straight up answers. Something along the lines of -yes I know him, have been in contact with him, or no I do not know him but I have some inside information- would be a bit more satisfying than stating that you know something but can't reveal it yet. All I want is a little confirmation that he is indeed alive and that this whole thing isn't just about the message. That's all I want. In my heart I believe he is alive but I am human and a little confirmation would ease some of the pain and doubt. It feels like we have come such a long way, led to believe the end is near, and then we are told that in fact there is much more but we can't be told yet? All the hidden messages and guessing are frustrating and it hurts to even think that we might be being fooled again. I'm not saying that is the case here, but that is always an option.
What we want to know is whether S.T.U.D.Y. truly has some inside information or whether he is another investigator like ourselves, just stating their speculations and theories. After all this is a hoax forum. We are here to investigate Michael Jackson's 'death'. And although the message being spread is beautiful, our main objective should be to find out whether Michael Jackson is truly dead or alive, which is why I don't understand why some members are attacked when they express a waning support of the hoax theory or a belief that MJ might truly be dead. We are here to find out the truth, and if that truth is that he has passed, then we should all be aware of it and consider all evidence, even the ones not supporting our hoax theory ...but that's a whole other issue. My point is, let's not be disrespectful with one another because we don't see things the way you do. We should all be able to voice our opinions without fearing a nasty response in return. We are all here because of Michael Jackson, and Michael is L.O.V.E., but somehow there is a lot less love going around this forum.
Please don't misunderstand me. I am not attacking anyone. All I want is some peace back on here.
Much L.O.V.E to you all :]
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Ok, I have said this a thousand times and I will say it again.
I have this feeling people enjoy picking on MO and SOUZA whenever they make a new thread or blog post which includes a new aspect to this hoax or if they present a new theory.
They(most of you) Do this over and over , some don't even read all their theories, some don't like them because they where told not to like them or any theory or idea they bring forward, others are in a constant fight with them over god knows what and I find it moronic.
Are you better then them, are they inferior to you, Do their theories make you jealous that you didnt think of it yourself, are you just a internet hater or maybe your a child and just have a hard time behaving normally online.
Its been close to 7 months now that Mo and souza and a select few have spent day and night, given tears and sweat , time and money wasted to research, think, talk to others, investigate and everything else you can imagine to try to peace together this puzzle that everyone wants an answer to and in an instant they get bashed because that's what we have come too, acting like caveman with no humanity, and trust me it shows and its not pretty.
There are many in our forum and other forums that do get it, they do understand what MO and Souza are trying to do. Which is take all the info they can acquire and sift through it since most of you wont and then they try to put together different parts and come up with a theory that somehow fits into the puzzle , and these theories come from actual information that you yourself can gather but don't or cant.
If you have followed their theories you WILL NOTICE THAT THEY ALSO HAVE A PATTERN, THEY SEEM TO BE ALL LINKED TOGETHER IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER and if you take the time to actually read it you might actually see what they are saying. BUT ITS EASIER TO JUDGE OTHERS LIKE THEY DID TO MICHAEL and yet your angry that others did the same thing to him, I call you hypocrites .
None of these theories need to be taken literally either . A good example is the twin theory which has validity but maybe its not a twin brother and it could be a doppelganger(perfect double), Maybe the fluoride theory isn't fluoride but another substance or poison that has kept michael sick through out the years.
They never point fingers as to who could be causing this and that is because they have respect and don't pass certain boundaries even though you think they are passing these boundaries just by expressing the theories they worked so hard on.
They are making theories that you can yourself take apart and use themselves to maybe fix the theory, they never claim to be 100% on everything, they also need your help. I just find it odd how its so easy for many of you to attack them on theories you might find wrong or odd BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAVE NO ISSUE WITH MICHAEL JACKSON FAKING HIS DEATH AND STAGING A HOAX AND IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN MAYBE THE KIDS KNOW AND THAT OPENS UP A WHOLE NEW CAN OF WORMS. So how dare you judge them.
Now on to this study person, WASN'T HE A MEMBER OF THE OLD MJHD, if so I don't see how that pertains to this website other then STUDY expressing whatever he is expressing in the end at our site. I do appreciate it though for there are some things I find interesting while other things don't.
I HAVE NOTICED ALL AROUND OTHER FORUMS THAT IT IS SO MUCH EASIER TO MAKE THREADS AND POSTS ABOUT MO AND SOUZA THEN IT IS TO ACTUALLY MAKE GOOD,VALID THREADS AND POSTS pertaining to this death hoax INSTEAD.
ITS EASIER TO SIT AT THE DINNER TABLE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE CHEF AND WHAT HE PREPARED THEN IT IS TO GET IN THE KITCHEN AND COOK YOUR OWN DAM FOOD.
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WELL SAID MO AND SOUZA DESERVE RESPECT I THNK THEY ARE THE BEST :)
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As beautiful as the message is, this does not prove to me that this person has any true evidence that Michael is alive or that he plans on returning.
What we want to know is whether S.T.U.D.Y. truly has some inside information or whether he is another investigator like ourselves, just stating their speculations and theories.
Why do you want S.T.U.D.Y. to prove him/herself? Why can't you just focus on THE MESSAGE that was delivered to us? Will you only act upon the message if 'proof' is provided? Put the pieces together yourself, that gives you enough proof. Please, look at the BIG PICTURE!
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Why do you want S.T.U.D.Y. to prove him/herself? Why can't you just focus on THE MESSAGE that was delivered to us? Will you only act upon the message if 'proof' is provided? Put the pieces together yourself, that gives you enough proof. Please, look at the BIG PICTURE!
Like I said in the rest of my post, I have seen the message & I believe in it. I followed the site even though I was skeptical of it, and I am still supportive of it and S.T.U.D.Y. Just because I am doubtful of his/her identity it does not mean I haven't or will not act upon the message, on the contrary. But I am here to investigate Michael Jackson's death, and that means finding out whether he is alive or not. TS has led many of us to believe that he is not just an investigator, but that they have evidence that he is alive. Many have pointed out that the evidence he presented isn't exactly supportive of that and in fact seems more like their own theories and observations. All I'm saying is that I can understand that. I think a bit of speculation is healthy, rather than people putting all their trust and hope in to this source. The message is loud and clear..but I want to know if the messenger still lives.
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" i just have a hard time with post's that seem to blindly believe "MJ WAS going to come back at Halloween, because thats what STUDY said, BUT obviously he could'nt because not enough people were ready..." and such things as " Ooh STUDY is Marlon Jackson, because he signed with funeral message with STUDY PEACE..." and as Misha above says "at this rate , seeing as obviously no one has read all of Study's posts, Michael should'nt even bother coming back"
what i said was that study, along with ALOT of other clues were pointing at a holloween return,just like how tmz stated that 1/19/10 is an important date and they give out other dates, at that time it would have made sense for him to come back at holloween and that was also the signs thatl he was giving us...its wasnt because of what study said because he never actually said that , he did hint around it tho, and when he mentioned it in this new topic alot people remembered all the things that were going on around that time and how we kinda felt punk'd cause he didnt but everything was pointing at that..so no it was not just based on study
so i wonder what IT IS exactly, that cause all of you to believe and put so much faith into Study's words ?
I put faith in his words because he supports what he says with evidence and like you said alot of what he has said we spoke about, that is correct and IMO he was just making sure that we, the people who were already going in that direction, knew we were correct and that the ones who didnt could see how this all fits in
i noticed on another thread people were saying such things as "i've a pretty good idea who STUDY is" and " i definately know who study is" really? I mean, if it's Marlon who you think it is, do you seriously see Marlon Jackson behind his PC everyday redirecting websites and such? I'm not bitching here , i seriously want to know everyones thoughts
and i'm soo not into name calling. I love this forum and don't get the divide This is creating.
Please don't answer with"read it again and study" i swear i've done it all. If i read it anymore , seriously you can stick a fork in me , i'll be done :)
well i was actually the one who kinda started that because b-corny had said some bs in that thread. and i also stated that it really didnt matter who was telling us because the message is what is important and i really wish i didnt open my mouth on that...but to answer you question yes i do see him, mikes other siblings along with neices,nephews and good friends all on the boards everyday. why:
1( to give us clues, alot of things that are going on WE would not have figured out on our own so i do think that all the sites have people there to assist us in the right direction
2( to watch the threads and topics and see what we are talking about...remeber how everyone thought mike was saying the world was going to end 2012 and there was a topic that was like 5 pages of peoole talking about it and then randomly "mj lawyers" says on tmz..." 2012 is crap imo" and it had nothing to do with the article...that was not a coincident mike, or his team, seen people were taking the message wrong and he was telling us that
3(there his family and friends and im sure that want to support him...and if that involves being online they hey, anything for someone you love right
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The message is loud and clear..but I want to know if the messenger still lives.
i honestly think we have more than enough evidence that mike is alive..we could go on for days and i doubt if mike wasnt alive ANY of this would have went on..
so imo i think at first we were seeing if mike was alive and now that i would bet my last dollar he is it is about why he would fake his death...
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Ok, I have said this a thousand times and I will say it again.
I have this feeling people enjoy picking on MO and SOUZA whenever they make a new thread or blog post which includes a new aspect to this hoax or if they present a new theory.
They(most of you) Do this over and over , some don't even read all their theories, some don't like them because they where told not to like them or any theory or idea they bring forward, others are in a constant fight with them over god knows what and I find it moronic.
Are you better then them, are they inferior to you, Do their theories make you jealous that you didnt think of it yourself, are you just a internet hater or maybe your a child and just have a hard time behaving normally online.
Its been close to 7 months now that Mo and souza and a select few have spent day and night, given tears and sweat , time and money wasted to research, think, talk to others, investigate and everything else you can imagine to try to peace together this puzzle that everyone wants an answer to and in an instant they get bashed because that's what we have come too, acting like caveman with no humanity, and trust me it shows and its not pretty.
There are many in our forum and other forums that do get it, they do understand what MO and Souza are trying to do. Which is take all the info they can acquire and sift through it since most of you wont and then they try to put together different parts and come up with a theory that somehow fits into the puzzle , and these theories come from actual information that you yourself can gather but don't or cant.
If you have followed their theories you WILL NOTICE THAT THEY ALSO HAVE A PATTERN, THEY SEEM TO BE ALL LINKED TOGETHER IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER and if you take the time to actually read it you might actually see what they are saying. BUT ITS EASIER TO JUDGE OTHERS LIKE THEY DID TO MICHAEL and yet your angry that others did the same thing to him, I call you hypocrites .
None of these theories need to be taken literally either . A good example is the twin theory which has validity but maybe its not a twin brother and it could be a doppelganger(perfect double), Maybe the fluoride theory isn't fluoride but another substance or poison that has kept michael sick through out the years.
They never point fingers as to who could be causing this and that is because they have respect and don't pass certain boundaries even though you think they are passing these boundaries just by expressing the theories they worked so hard on.
They are making theories that you can yourself take apart and use themselves to maybe fix the theory, they never claim to be 100% on everything, they also need your help. I just find it odd how its so easy for many of you to attack them on theories you might find wrong or odd BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAVE NO ISSUE WITH MICHAEL JACKSON FAKING HIS DEATH AND STAGING A HOAX AND IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN MAYBE THE KIDS KNOW AND THAT OPENS UP A WHOLE NEW CAN OF WORMS. So how dare you judge them.
Now on to this study person, WASN'T HE A MEMBER OF THE OLD MJHD, if so I don't see how that pertains to this website other then STUDY expressing whatever he is expressing in the end at our site. I do appreciate it though for there are some things I find interesting while other things don't.
I HAVE NOTICED ALL AROUND OTHER FORUMS THAT IT IS SO MUCH EASIER TO MAKE THREADS AND POSTS ABOUT MO AND SOUZA THEN IT IS TO ACTUALLY MAKE GOOD,VALID THREADS AND POSTS pertaining to this death hoax INSTEAD.
ITS EASIER TO SIT AT THE DINNER TABLE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE CHEF AND WHAT HE PREPARED THEN IT IS TO GET IN THE KITCHEN AND COOK YOUR OWN DAM FOOD.
please don't make this about Mo and Souza, as that is NOT the intention :!:
The point is that obviously alot of us on here , despite reading EVERYTHING multiple times,
still don't get it and being told that that makes you lazy, ignorant or that you need it s.p.e.l.l.e.d. out for you, which written like that seems pretty demeaning, well you would think that if everyone on this forum who DOES get it, and who so pride themselves to be fit to be spreading MJ's message and L.O.V.E. would step up in a wink to spell it out to those who don't get it. I just get the feeling there are many here who are not going about it in a very
"Michael'ish' kinda way.
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Dear God...
L.O.V.E. is the last thing I can think of after reading all these threads regarding TIAI.
This discussion is getting retarted, to say the least. I don't understand why do you all keep arguing and trying to make everyone agree with your own opinions. You have to realize that people don't have always the same points of view on things. Why don't you all just state your opinion on TIAI and leave the freakin' thread? God!
Merry Christmas... and Peace.
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Peace to you all..
We're all here for the same reason. Let's all show respect and love for each other regardless if our opinions differ.
LOVE is the main message, after all...
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Dear God...
L.O.V.E. is the last thing I can think of after reading all these threads regarding TIAI.
This discussion is getting retarted, to say the least. I don't understand why do you all keep arguing and trying to make everyone agree with your own opinions. You have to realize that people don't have always the same points of view on things. Why don't you all just state your opinion on TIAI and leave the freakin' thread? God!
Merry Christmas... and Peace.
Illegally, that is just the thing that didn't happended here.. no one told to the other that must believe like the rest or anything similar. Mo posted that ppl are being Lazy because they were asking things that you probably wont ask if you read the 9 parts, for example: TS didn't say when Michael was coming back! it was a waste of time! ---> actually TS never said that in TIAI revealed we will find a date to be waiting for michael's return.
see? then is when ppl started to changing all what the other had said and the thread become something like this:
X: read the whole thread
Y: I did it, but I don't trust him and I don't understand the ppl how trust TS
X: is another window, and I believe he/she has a point, a message that is important
Y: you created a cult! you are an idiot because you believe in everything you see
X: Im not an idiot, maybe you should look at yourself first.. he has made a great job
Y: no he didin't, we have already talked about all that he mentions! look at myself? watch yourself! you don't want to ppl think different than you!
O.o
non sense at all.. with only ONE person answering to what he/she think that the other had said.. is enough to transform a topic on this, and you can surely see that there is no only one reacting to something that have never been said here :S
Lot of L.O.V.E!!!
Some ppl thinks that is an obligation (or something like that) for study to proove that he/she has sources that we must believe on... but study doesn't have anything to proove, even when he is Marlon or Garfield, it doesn't matter! he made a great job with things that a lot of other ppl have disussed first... so what!?!?!.. at least a lot.. and I mean a BIG LOT of ppl was following TIAI, surely even more of the ppl who followed a treath of this or any forum reffering to some of the topis he was showing day by day.. and that is the important thing. SPREAD THE MESSAGE!!
kisses!
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Why don't you all just state your opinion on TIAI and leave the freakin' thread? God!
Merry Christmas... and Peace.
And may you have an absolutley amazing,incredible,remarkable and memorable Christmas! Applause to you!
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I just wanted to point out that *Michael...L.O.V.E.* has stated:
*Michael...L.O.V.E.* December 23rd, 2009 7:27 pm ET
I'm almost scared to come back in January for fear that millions will die of cardiac arrest out of shock.
Keep in mind that there is a hearing scheduled to REVOKE the will on January 28, 2010. From what I have heard there was a confidential filing made by a claimant that prompted this hearing being scheduled. Everything I can find on Revocation of will ALL pertains to the creator of the will being the one who can revoke it. Michael would therefore have to prove he was alive to revoke his will. So Michael has now set up a possible return in January but if things are not in place ie WE ARE NOT READY, as in the public then this hearing can be delayed through a continuance. If this happens then we will once again have a new tentative date.
I am suggesting that everyone tell 5 friends/family, that do not know or do not believe that Michael is alive all the evidence that shows he is. Once they can start to see that then give them the reasons WHY he may have felt the need to hoax his death (which hopefully you have either researched or developed theories already). Tell people about his message and what he wants to accomplish by returning. If you can convince even a couple, then ask them to tell 5 friends/family and so on.
You want him back? Then there is work to be done or this may continue to be delayed, delayed, delayed!
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I just wanted to point out that *Michael...L.O.V.E.* has stated:
*Michael...L.O.V.E.* December 23rd, 2009 7:27 pm ET
I'm almost scared to come back in January for fear that millions will die of cardiac arrest out of shock.
Keep in mind that there is a hearing scheduled to REVOKE the will on January 28, 2010. From what I have heard there was a confidential filing made by a claimant that prompted this hearing being scheduled. Everything I can find on Revocation of will ALL pertains to the creator of the will being the one who can revoke it. Michael would therefore have to prove he was alive to revoke his will. So Michael has now set up a possible return in January but if things are not in place ie WE ARE NOT READY, as in the public then this hearing can be delayed through a continuance. If this happens then we will once again have a new tentative date.
I am suggesting that everyone tell 5 friends/family, that do not know or do not believe that Michael is alive all the evidence that shows he is. Once they can start to see that then give them the reasons WHY he may have felt the need to hoax his death (which hopefully you have either researched or developed theories already). Tell people about his message and what he wants to accomplish by returning. If you can convince even a couple, then ask them to tell 5 friends/family and so on.
You want him back? Then there is work to be done or this may continue to be delayed, delayed, delayed!
You are absolutely right!! I have been trying to discuss these things with my family and friends and not one of them think I am sane at this point! The fight does not stop there for me though! I will keep talking until people listen, even if I have to be subtle about it. We are all here for ONE CAUSE!!!
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I just wanted to point out that *Michael...L.O.V.E.* has stated:
*Michael...L.O.V.E.* December 23rd, 2009 7:27 pm ET
I'm almost scared to come back in January for fear that millions will die of cardiac arrest out of shock.
Keep in mind that there is a hearing scheduled to REVOKE the will on January 28, 2010. From what I have heard there was a confidential filing made by a claimant that prompted this hearing being scheduled. Everything I can find on Revocation of will ALL pertains to the creator of the will being the one who can revoke it. Michael would therefore have to prove he was alive to revoke his will. So Michael has now set up a possible return in January but if things are not in place ie WE ARE NOT READY, as in the public then this hearing can be delayed through a continuance. If this happens then we will once again have a new tentative date.
I am suggesting that everyone tell 5 friends/family, that do not know or do not believe that Michael is alive all the evidence that shows he is. Once they can start to see that then give them the reasons WHY he may have felt the need to hoax his death (which hopefully you have either researched or developed theories already). Tell people about his message and what he wants to accomplish by returning. If you can convince even a couple, then ask them to tell 5 friends/family and so on.
You want him back? Then there is work to be done or this may continue to be delayed, delayed, delayed!
You are absolutely right!! I have been trying to discuss these things with my family and friends and not one of them think I am sane at this point! The fight does not stop there for me though! I will keep talking until people listen, even if I have to be subtle about it. We are all here for ONE CAUSE!!!
AMEN! And I want to point out that I do have respect for Mo and Souza I'v never ever said anything bad about them I respect what they do.
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I hope this doesn't happen to us:
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjec ... eath.shtml (http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/astronomy/stars/lifecycle/stardeath.shtml)
Happy holidays everyone! XoX
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...whatever...does it matter the origin...this is a valuable site.
Maybe, just maybe it's time to unite, instead of being all over the place.
Maybe, just maybe someone noticed individuals' need to share in a central place where all these topics are available.
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Yeah,
after watching film Dr.Parnassus (which is the answer for MJ's possible return from Illuminatti,even with threats that his second death will be final) i wonder how MJ (whatever the date of Big Day=Come Back) is prepared for problems that Illuminatti could plan. Soon, it will be 7 months since MJ "died", Illuminatti also had time to prepare something bad for MJ. Has anyone of u wonderend about it? Has anybody got idea? I trully want MJ back (my family thinks i need a doctor......there are still many nonbelievers), but i am still worried about MJ.
HOW CAN WE HELP HIM TO BE SAFE?
Because we are already prepared for his come back and we know our role in this big day-educating people that MJ did it for other, more important reasons, than just money-as most people will think.
P.S. Massage for MJ: MJ if u read this, say one word....and i pack my things and go to wherever u are.....i will leave everything.......for u......i work in a Bank's HQ but i can clean your furnitures...or whatever.....
Best wishes for all Believers,
IDK3MJ