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Title: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: mac5k on June 10, 2011, 01:02:51 PM
Finally releasing from the Disney vault ... You won't beLIEve ... your eyes ... like you've never seen or heard before ... with a complete digital restoration ... Dumbo ... and for the first time ever ... in high definition ... the 70th anniversary special edition ... Let your spirit soar !

This message seems familiar to me not for you  :?:  :D

[youtube:3fd9abm5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kib3lRzXglA&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:3fd9abm5]
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on June 10, 2011, 01:33:36 PM
Wow! I won't BELIEVE my eyes? really? Did they say this about Bambi and Little Mermaid and Peter Pan remastered versions? Well, all I know is I will be getting this because Dumbo is my BFF ahem..Jumbo, Jr. I'm sorry!
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: MJonmind on June 10, 2011, 02:19:34 PM
Well there could be parallels to the MJ hoax IMO. MJ loved Disney, elephants at the memorial and more. 9th wonder sounds like 9th manifestation (remember SLC) And I still think there's connections to Kathy Hilton's rubbing of MJ's "feet" and whispering funny stories in his ear, like Roy rubbed his dad Walt's feet and the rest. That was a clue to connect the dots IMO
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=19362&p=336115&hilit=roy#p336115 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=19362&p=336115&hilit=roy#p336115)
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on June 10, 2011, 02:30:19 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Well there could be parallels to the MJ hoax IMO. MJ loved Disney, elephants at the memorial and more. 9th wonder sounds like 9th manifestation (remember SLC) And I still think there's connections to Kathy Hilton's rubbing of MJ's "feet" and whispering funny stories in his ear, like Roy rubbed his dad Walt's feet and the rest. That was a clue to connect the dots IMO
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=19362&p=336115&hilit=roy#p336115 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=19362&p=336115&hilit=roy#p336115)

I remember someone saying it could be possible Mike owned a part of Disney Corp. Or could he know powerful insider(s)at Disney to have them involved in the hoax?
It seems a little farfetched, but anything's possible, right?
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: MissG on June 10, 2011, 03:29:28 PM
Watching Dumbo was a very traumatic experience when I was a child. Can´t watch it once more  :lol:
Those Disney movies makes people very sad, like Bambi....I mean, come on!!! what fun is having the parents of little Bambi killed!!

TRAUMATIZED, i became traumatized till today  :lol:
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: Steph22 on June 10, 2011, 03:54:19 PM
I really don't think that there is any connection to Disney or Dumbo. sorry. just my opinion. It is pretty normal that Dumbo comes out this year. Disney brings out all their movie in a certain rythm. usually every 5 to 7 years. then they put it back in their "vault". To the platinum edition belong 10 movies, basically these are the ten best-selling movies ( amongst them the lion king, the beauty and the beast, Pinocchio, or the sleeping beauty) and usually 2 of them are realeased every year. It is Dumbo's turn this year I guess.It was last released in 2006 but also has been on the market since last year again because it was it's 70th anniversary. And also the lion king will come out this year again. the last time it was released was in 2003.

So I guess what I'm saying it is pretty normal for Disney to release Dumbo this year. It is just the movies turn now. that's all. imo.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 10, 2011, 06:20:15 PM
I love Dumbo, my absolute all time favorite Disney Classic.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: RK on June 10, 2011, 07:33:02 PM
I saw in a hoax video that it is slated for release on the 21st of September. Same day as Murray's trial has been pushed back to. Also the intro to that Dumbo clip says 'from the vault'....reminded me of the Jackson's secret vault articles and pictures.
I want to add I still cry every time I see Dumbo [the part where he visits his mum who is manacled for being a mad elephant. It is so poignant and intense for an animation. Truly amazing.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: bec on June 10, 2011, 10:38:37 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
I still think there's connections to Kathy Hilton's rubbing of MJ's "feet" and whispering funny stories in his ear, like Roy rubbed his dad Walt's feet and the rest. That was a clue to connect the dots IMO
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=19362&p=336115&hilit=roy#p336115 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=19362&p=336115&hilit=roy#p336115)

Oh good one.

also: Murray on the Dumbo ride? C'mon.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: Steph22 on June 11, 2011, 03:01:22 AM
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Also the intro to that Dumbo clip says 'from the vault'....reminded me of the Jackson's secret vault articles and pictures.

It has nothing to do with the Jackson's secret vault. Disney used the word "vault" way before Michael was born.
 
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The "Disney Vault" is the term used by Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment for its policy of putting home video releases of Walt Disney Animation Studios's animated features on moratorium. Each Disney film is available for purchase for a limited time, after which it is put "in the vault" and not made available in stores for several years until it is once again released.

The practice is the modern version of Disney's practice of re-releasing its animated films in theaters every couple of years which began with the reissue of 1937's Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: bec on June 11, 2011, 10:30:38 AM
The point Steph22, is that the "Jackson Vault" was probably named after the Disney Vault. Think outside the box Steph22, that's what we do here. You have some learning to do before you take such a condescending tone with members who have been working hard on this hoax for the past 2 years. You can "think" what you like of course.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: gwynned on June 11, 2011, 11:04:15 AM
Quote from: "bec"
The point Steph22, is that the "Jackson Vault" was probably named after the Disney Vault. Think outside the box Steph22, that's what we do here. You have some learning to do before you take such a condescending tone with members who have been working hard on this hoax for the past 2 years. You can "think" what you like of course.

I totally understand what you're saying.  However, I think it's good to have some more cynical types on this forum from time to time to keep us honest.  On the other hand, the hoax can be very subtle.  If it were obvious.....there would be millions, rather than thousands or even hundreds....on this forum.  And yes, it is easy to discount these subtle coincidences viewed individually.  However, the sheer number of coincidences would convince even the greatest cynic that something is going on here that is not accidental.  And while it's important to be critical and use one's innate powers of analysis, most people already have their mind made up that this is just another 'Elvis' story  :o  and won't allow in evidence of an alternate version.  

I think it can be true that BOTH Disney and MJ referred to the vault and use of the term in this case can be a subtle effort at connecting the two enterprises.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: bec on June 11, 2011, 11:06:44 AM
If the cynical has been there and done that I will listen to what they have to say. Otherwise... their opinion is worth exactly what you pay for it.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: MJonmind on June 11, 2011, 12:40:22 PM
‘Captain EO’ expands to another Disney park
http://ocresort.ocregister.com/tag/michael-jackson/ (http://ocresort.ocregister.com/tag/michael-jackson/)
(http://ocresort.ocregister.com/files/2009/12/img_capaineo2_1_1_tkihe121-212x300.jpg)

 
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08/31/2009
 Disney buys Marvel

LOS ANGELES – The Walt Disney Co. says it is acquiring Marvel Entertainment Inc. for $4 billion in cash and stock, bringing characters like Iron Man and Spider-Man into the Disney family.

Under the deal, Disney will acquire ownership of 5,000 Marvel characters.

Disney said Monday that Marvel shareholders will receive $30 per share in cash plus 0.745 Disney shares for every Marvel share they own.

It said the boards of Disney and Marvel have both approved the transaction, but it requires an antitrust review and the approval of Marvel shareholders.

I wonder what this will mean for Universal Studios/Islands of Adventure, since it has quite a few Marvel themed rides/characters
Read more at ONTD: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/38 ... OzM9wchD.. (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/38743923.html#ixzz1OzM9wchD..). http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/38743923.html (http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/38743923.html)
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http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/ (http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/)
Michael Jackson Seen At Disney World

I am more than happy to have a chance to send you this e-mail. Yesterday, in my family trip to Orlando, to go to Disney World, was the last day i was in Orlando from the 5 days i've been there. And yet, it was the best day ever for me. I would like to share this with you & the fans. As me and my family left the hotel around 9 in the morning, to get early to the Disney theme park "Epcot", we were riding in the car until we got to the "Epcot" parking lot. When we got there, we found a parking space, and parked. we all got out of the car, and we were about to cross a small street where cars drive by. when you cross that street, you will see the main entrance of the park. when we were all about to cross, this very big tall black car that looked a lot like a Cadillac Escalade, Parked in front of the main entrance, Instead of looking for a normal parking space. I personally thought that was very strange because nobody parks that way. Anyways, Me & my family had to keep moving on to get inside the theme park.  
As we made a line for the entrance,everybody seemed to be talking loudly & facing one direction. Everybody was looking at the strange black car that i mentioned earlier.
I turned around as well, to see what everybody was looking at. What i saw was a man in a black satin suit that had dark glasses. He came out of the drivers seat, & somehow looked at all of us that were looking at him. He then turned to the backseat where he then opened the door, and ANOTHER man wearing the same suit as the first man came out. That second man was holding an umbrella. (We all know Michael uses umbrellas many times) Well, the second man reached his hand inside, & grabbed the hand of the man i could swear was Michael. The man that looked amazingly alot like Michael came slowly out of the car, i first noticed his shoes. (They were black) I then noticed the kind of clothing he was wearing, (Black leather pants, black coat, dark sunglasses, something that looked like a scarf around his face, & a baseball cap.) The people around me were wondering who that person was. What was amazing, was that the two men who seemed to be security, seemed to have some type of special ID or another card of identification. That one of them showed to the person who was in charge of giving out the tickets, which then led them to entering less than a minute inside the park.

 The line i was in, was huge, but when i finally got through it, i was walking very quickly to see if i could possibly find that mystery person. Sadly, i never had a chance to find him. But there's no doubt that was Michael. Real fans like me, & others around the world really know how to tell when somebody is MJ or not. I want everybody to keep beLIEving no matter what happens. Always keep the faith like i'm keeping it! Never give up! I'm sure he's ABOUT to come back. I know it! I'll never give up of course, & neither should none of you either. I'm counting on you guys to beLIEve. He'll be here soon! But always remember the Love, The Faith, & TO BURN THE TABLOIDS!! I love you all, All  my love, Sandy xxx

email received  Wed, February 9, 2011 8:51:24 PM  

Captain EO has made a total come-back at all the Disney Parks around the world after MJ's years of being rejected by the world. Then, we've all seen the video clip where Michael almost bought Marvel comics, and next we know from Geraldo that he has big plans for movie-making. We know MJ has bought shares in tons of key places, with so little cash flow left that it appears he is bankrupt. My point is that if he has plans, he has to work together with the best agencies and gain power from within the company. Remember BACK's words, "It's not a come-back--it's a take-over!"  If you read between the lines, even the fact that Murray (who represents Michael) is riding Dumbo, isn't that a direct hint that MJ is riding the (beast) Disney Company? Much like the mouse Timothy rode Dumbo's head and controlled him. We have to connect dots, or we are missing the boat and just gullibly swallowing the media lies pill. Steph22, I appreciate that you are trying to be level-headed and rational, thinking the minimum connection. But we start there and build the incoming other info and so-called coincidences on to that and weave together hypothesis. All scientists, historians, mathameticians, etc. do that all the time. Lastly, I know sightings are completely iffy, but maybe it was him and he was dropping a clue of his connection to Disney, as are other possibly true sightings. They say, "I'm Alive and doing business, and messing big-time with your minds, because I'm still dead. Haha!"
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: bec on June 11, 2011, 12:55:10 PM
Timothy the mouse.

Tim Simkins.

Dot-dot.

You can change the world, I can't do it by myself,
You can touch the sky, gonna take somebody's help,
You're the chosen one, I'm gonna need some kind of sign.

The Sign.

I saw the sign, and it opened up my eyes, I saw the sign.

Dot-dot-dot.

Skeptics need not apply. I'm jumping off the cliff. Matrix. If you believe, it is real. What is real? Well, what is your perception? That's what is real.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: gwynned on June 11, 2011, 02:08:56 PM
Quote from: "bec"
Timothy the mouse.

Tim Simkins.

Dot-dot.

You can change the world, I can't do it by myself,
You can touch the sky, gonna take somebody's help,
You're the chosen one, I'm gonna need some kind of sign.

The Sign.

I saw the sign, and it opened up my eyes, I saw the sign.

Dot-dot-dot.

Skeptics need not apply. I'm jumping off the cliff. Matrix. If you believe, it is real. What is real? Well, what is your perception? That's what is real.


I'll jump with you, Bec!  I love it!
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on June 11, 2011, 05:35:43 PM
Peter Pan is who Michael truly is and to those who know him. Dumbo is what the world has made of him with distortion and lies. The world loves you, it hates you, it loves you again. Keep teaching us Michael. I'm closing my eyes and looking with my heart. I can completely see the connection, not just because I want to but because out of all the Disney movies, Dumbo shares the most similiarities with the hoax and the reasons for a hoax in the first place. Now my dog is having nightmares, I have to go wake her up! afraid/
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: Steph22 on June 11, 2011, 06:12:21 PM
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The point Steph22, is that the "Jackson Vault" was probably named after the Disney Vault. Think outside the box Steph22, that's what we do here. You have some learning to do before you take such a condescending tone with members who have been working hard on this hoax for the past 2 years. You can "think" what you like of course.

I don't even know what to say to that really. This just made me really upset. I'm not taking a condescending tone with any member. I've been trying to prove my point and that in a very neutral tone. but I guess because I'm only a new member here, I can't have an opinion that is contradicting with the opinion of the old members. Even though I might be a new member here in this forum bec, I'm not new to the hoax. I've been following it for a very long time, just as you. And I don't get why you have to take such a rude tone with me?! Did I ever do anything to you? Am I not allowed to state my opinion on here? I thought this is what this forum is for. To gather all kinds of thoughts. And just because you do not agree with me, doesn't mean you have to attack me. I'm actually a really nice person bec and I'm nice to all members on here. I've never been rude to anybody on here and this is what I get in return. well, thank you very much. I get the feeling new members are not welcome here and I think this is really sad. I feel like I should rather keep my opinion to myself from now on because I see it is not appreciated.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: bec on June 11, 2011, 08:07:23 PM
Well, you know steph, you did post repeatedly that you don't believe. Once with no replies is enough. Twice and yes, someone, me this time, is going to assume you just don't get it.

I have no fight with you. You are of course welcome here.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: Steph22 on June 12, 2011, 01:54:19 AM
well, this is a nice good morning post to wake up to. That I don't belive? And I don't get it? Well, maybe you just don't get it. But I'm not gonna start to discuss this here with you now because I want everybody else to enjoy this thread. . You'll find a PM later in your inbox after I had some coffee.

But, this will probably be my last post in this forum for some time. The atmo here has been so hostile in the last few weeks. And I don't need that. I guess I need a break from that.

Have a great day everyone
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: MJonmind on June 12, 2011, 03:36:18 AM
Quote from: "Steph22"
well, this is a nice good morning post to wake up to. That I don't belive? And I don't get it? Well, maybe you just don't get it. But I'm not gonna start to discuss this here with you now because I want everybody else to enjoy this thread. . You'll find a PM later in your inbox after I had some coffee.

But, this will probably be my last post in this forum for some time. The atmo here has been so hostile in the last few weeks. And I don't need that. I guess I need a break from that.

Have a great day everyone
Please stay. You are a valued member here!  Don't go okay?
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: RK on June 12, 2011, 10:29:03 AM
Lets forget forget about misunderstandings and keep investigating. Steph, you're as entitled to your opinion as I am mine. I am not offended in the least. Please do not leave over this. I am asking you to stay even though you probably feel really hurt at the moment.
Bec, my comrade in arms, we soldiers do seem to be all for one and one for all. It's a good reminder that words on a computer screen can come across with a different inflection that the poster intended. Add to that the different nationalities represented here and we can have a formula for misunderstanding.
So how bout it guys? Lets prove by our actions that we are big enough to get over any personal hurt feelings and keep moving onward.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: bec on June 12, 2011, 10:56:02 AM
I have no personal feelings, this is strictly business.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: RK on June 12, 2011, 11:02:51 AM
Good...moving right along then. And back to topic.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: TheMoonIsDancing on June 12, 2011, 01:33:53 PM
I know we mentioned that the 70th Anniversary edition will be released Sept 20, a day off from Murray trial. The 1st VHS release of Dumbo was June 26, 1981. A day off from June 25 lol. Maybe means nothing but I thought it was pretty cool :D
Also, Dumbo was he most successful Disney movie in the 1940's, Snow White Fantasia and Pinnochio were all failures at the time.
Title: Re: Dumbo 70th Anniversary Edition Trailer lol
Post by: MJonmind on June 12, 2011, 01:49:53 PM
Quote from: "RK"
Good...moving right along then. And back to topic.
That reminds me of Michael's words at his concert, "Get the point, good, let's dance!"  michael-jackson/
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