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Title: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 19, 2011, 03:37:28 AM
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/06/24/0624-remembering-michael.jpg)

MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump! (http://www.tmz.com/2011/06/19/michael-jackson-death-anniversary-fans-aerial-rose-drop-neverland-ranch-memorial/)
40 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  

With the two-year anniversary of Michael Jackson's death approaching -- one helicopter company is giving fans the chance to pay their respects ... by raining flowers down around Neverland ... mid-flight.

(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/06/14/0614-neverland-roses-tmz-composite-ex.jpg)

The 30-minute Channel Island Helicopter flights are set to take off June 24th and 25th -- exactly two years since Jackson died after a Propofol-induced cardiac arrest.

During the flight, passengers are encouraged to honor the late entertainer by chucking his favorite flower -- a red rose -- out of the helicopter mid-flight ... over nearby Zaca Peak.

A rep for the helicopter company tell us -- fans are super excited for the aerial tour ... saying they feel it will bring them "closer to heaven" ... and closer to Michael.
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 19, 2011, 03:40:10 AM
So last year his favorite flower was a sunflower, now it's a red rose. Okay...

One would almost think Mike is at Neverland, when you look at the last sentence. 8-)
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: mac5k on June 19, 2011, 03:56:58 AM
It only costs $175.00  ;)

(http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z337/posmike/For%20Ivy/channelislandsad.jpg)

More Info Flight Over Neverland Channel Islands Helicopters proudly presents “Flight Over Neverland” on Friday, June 24th and Saturday, June 25th commemorating the 2nd anniversary of the passing of beloved entertainer Michael Jackson.
Flights depart from Santa Barbara Municipal Airport (SBA) from the Signature Aviation aboard a Robinson 44 Helicopter for a 30 minute air tour. Loyal fans will be whisked to the skies over Neverland Ranch- …the sprawling estate that was home to the King of Pop for nearly 20 years.
Fans will also be able to pay tribute during the flight by dropping a complimentary red rose (MJ’s favorite flower) atop nearby Zaca Peak- a 3000 foot summit overlooking the Neverland grounds. Bring your i-pod to play your cherished Michael tunes during the flight.
The flight to and from Neverland provides some of central California’s most breathtaking countryside including the sprawling vineyards of Santa Yenez , Lake Cachuma, and stunning views of the Santa Barbara area. Seats are limited; please book your seat today!
The helicopter will travel around Neverland, maintaining a respectful distance while allowing for incredible views of the property.

$175 Per Individual Passenger
$500 private flight of up to three passengers.
Call Channel Islands Helicopter at 805-512-1371 to request the THRILLER FLIGHT and reserve your seat today!
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Terms & Conditions of Sale:
All reservations must be accompanied with FULL payment with a credit card No passenger Age Limit. Easy access to helicopter with steps, or assistance of staff. Small children fly in booster seats and babies fly in car seat (no lap seating). 285 lbs per passenger weight limit. 600 lbs combined passenger weight limit. Passengers must be present 15 minutes prior to their scheduled flight to participate in a mandatory safety briefing. If passenger is not present for safety briefing they are considered a no-show and no refunds will be made. An attempt will be made to fly the passenger on a later flight at the sole discretion of Channel Islands Helicopters. If a flight is cancelled due to weather, an alternate flight time will be proposed or a gift certificate in the amount of the flight good for one year will be issued. Refunds are issued at the discretion of Channel Islands Helicopters. Channel Island Helicopters reserves the right to deny service to any person for any reason.

[BBvideo 425,350:2prh030m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kumbli25w6o&feature=player_embedded[/BBvideo:2prh030m]
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: brunob12 on June 19, 2011, 04:13:34 AM
Quote
The red rose symbolizes many different meanings depending on its shade and the amount. In general it portrays beauty, passion, courage and respect. It says congratulations, I love you and shows a sincere love. It is viewed as a symbol of deep romantic love and desire .

Flower Meaning (http://www.flowermeaning.info/Red.php)


[offtopic:2d7us2ll]I bet sunflowerguy.com is not happy with the change.[/offtopic:2d7us2ll]
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: ~Souza~ on June 19, 2011, 04:27:45 AM
Quote from: "brunob12"
Quote
The red rose symbolizes many different meanings depending on its shade and the amount. In general it portrays beauty, passion, courage and respect. It says congratulations, I love you and shows a sincere love. It is viewed as a symbol of deep romantic love and desire .

Flower Meaning (http://www.flowermeaning.info/Red.php)


[offtopic:sgl6usaw]I bet sunflowerguy.com is not happy with the change.[/offtopic:sgl6usaw]

Hmmmm, there are 18 roses displayed in the picture. According to the site you linked to, it means "I'm sorry". Who's sorry and for what? Is MJ sorry for staying away so long? lolol/
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on June 19, 2011, 06:38:10 AM
Thank God they realized Michael likes Red Roses mj_bad/ ..i bet he loves all the flowers but i also bet that the red color is his favorite  elvis_/ ...Wonder who thought of changing the "flower" 'theme'?
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 19, 2011, 08:27:50 AM
Thank you for sharing this article with us. TMZ has been pretty quiet lately, it had me wondering.

Yes, that last sentence does stand out for sure. "bring them "closer to heaven" ... and closer to Michael" implies that Michael is there. Maybe they are referring to his spirit, IDK.

Also - wasn't there a no fly rule over Neverland? It seems like that is no longer in effect.

The red rose is what was at his memorial, right? I wonder if there is any significance.

It will be interesting to see how many people do that. If they can afford that they can afford $20 to the MJJforeverinnocent project.

Blessings.
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: shelby61 on June 19, 2011, 08:51:41 AM
I wonder if the red rose has significance to Father's Day?  It is Father's Day today -- perhaps MJ always received red roses on Father's Day - just surmizing - :)  - maybe it is way of expressing his LOVE to all the fathers out there today.
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on June 19, 2011, 08:56:35 AM
Thank you for your post.. very interesting. Does anyone lives near Nerverland? If so can you go take a peak and see who will pick up all the roses, and where will they bring the roses after they picked them up? I am just wondering if they bring them inside Never land, there can be a possibility Michael is inside, or he is not there. I have no clue. Did Janet new boyfriend buy Neverland for her/ There was an article that he would have bought Neverland for Janet. I haven't heard anything after..
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 19, 2011, 10:36:13 AM
lolol/ I knew this would happen and I predicted it when I first heard that Katherine Jackson was selling roses. lolol/  Last year Lisa Marie and sunflowers, this year Katherine’s roses, next year  typing/
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: Kristina4LOVE on June 19, 2011, 10:47:33 AM
"V for Vendetta"  :D

Is anybody going to Neverland?
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: Tink.I.Am on June 19, 2011, 10:48:36 AM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
So last year his favorite flower was a sunflower, now it's a red rose. Okay...

One would almost think Mike is at Neverland, when you look at the last sentence. 8-)

or at zaca lake where he did go "camping" a few times....
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 19, 2011, 10:56:15 AM
The fans have also purchased 4,500 red roses for Michael’s crypt.
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: Tink.I.Am on June 19, 2011, 01:06:31 PM
on their facebook  "Channel Islands Helicopters" they say
[glow=red:gpxflizo]"Well folks- TMZ picked up on our event. A little more "Sensationalist" than reality...but it's TMZ after all."[/glow:gpxflizo]

http://www.facebook.com/ChannelIslandsHeli (http://www.facebook.com/ChannelIslandsHeli)

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=177521275636477 (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=177521275636477)
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: Dancer on June 19, 2011, 01:22:52 PM
The article says: "The 30-minute Channel Island Helicopter flights are set to take off June 24th and 25th -- exactly two years since Jackson died " - as if he died on 24th AND 25th... Reminds me of Ben Evenstad's "that day and the other d... uhm..."
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: scorpionchik on June 19, 2011, 01:27:17 PM
So nice of them, I got chills. Damn, Santa Barbara is far. I wonder if they would pick me up at Glendale. :lol: Seriously, why fly over Neverland instead of Forest Lawn?  rr/ For observation I am gonna go to FL and maybe Encino that day for sure.
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: Dancer on June 19, 2011, 01:29:42 PM
TheKINGdom52 (I love her videos) made a video about it.

[BBvideo 425,350:1xpyl26w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kp9blXeLnc[/BBvideo:1xpyl26w]
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: scary4youbaby on June 19, 2011, 01:33:12 PM
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Thank God they realized Michael likes Red Roses mj_bad/ ..i bet he loves all the flowers but i also bet that the red color is his favorite  elvis_/ ...Wonder who thought of changing the "flower" 'theme'?

On my trip to Neverland I took this pic of the beautiful white flowers that are outside the gates. My friend asked the gardener who was working there why he was watering all these flowers and he replied "because they are Michael's favorite."

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa74/lindaquintero15/AMBA0307.jpg)

I bet he has a ton of favorite flowers! :)
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 19, 2011, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: "Dancer"
The article says: "The 30-minute Channel Island Helicopter flights are set to take off June 24th and 25th -- exactly two years since Jackson died " - as if he died on 24th AND 25th... Reminds me of Ben Evenstad's "that day and the other d... uhm..."

same here
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 19, 2011, 01:38:22 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
So nice of them, I got chills. Damn, Santa Barbara is far. I wonder if they would pick me up at Glendale. :lol: [glow=red:i83522j8]Seriously, why fly over Neverland instead of Forest Lawn?[/glow:i83522j8]  rr/ For observation I am gonna go to FL and maybe Encino that day for sure.

same question here...but I guess it is like a simbol.
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: scorpionchik on June 19, 2011, 01:41:15 PM
Quote from: "Dancer"
TheKINGdom52 (I love her videos) made a video about it.

[BBvideo 425,350:232hu9ax]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kp9blXeLnc[/BBvideo:232hu9ax]


That was fast...  :roll:  Can  one of the Neverland Channel Islands Helicopters be Michael's personal helicopter.........?
WE LOVE YOU TOO MICHAEL JUST COME BACK, DAMN IT.
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: Grace on June 19, 2011, 01:54:23 PM
May 7, 2009:

[attachment=0:25uze1wv]20090507_001.jpg[/attachment:25uze1wv]
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: Le Papillon Bleu on June 19, 2011, 01:59:19 PM
Quote from: "scary4youbaby"
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
Thank God they realized Michael likes Red Roses mj_bad/ ..i bet he loves all the flowers but i also bet that the red color is his favorite  elvis_/ ...Wonder who thought of changing the "flower" 'theme'?

On my trip to Neverland I took this pic of the beautiful white flowers that are outside the gates. My friend asked the gardener who was working there why he was watering all these flowers and he replied "because they are Michael's favorite."

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa74/lindaquintero15/AMBA0307.jpg)

I bet he has a ton of favorite flowers! :)
Especially ROSES
Remember Thalia said also that Michael liked her photo with a flower in her hair http://img2.blogcu.com/images/k/a/h/kahkaha32/31_b.jpg (http://img2.blogcu.com/images/k/a/h/kahkaha32/31_b.jpg)
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: scorpionchik on June 19, 2011, 02:01:44 PM
Quote from: "GINAFELICIA"
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
So nice of them, I got chills. Damn, Santa Barbara is far. I wonder if they would pick me up at Glendale. :lol: [glow=red:34codu0z]Seriously, why fly over Neverland instead of Forest Lawn?[/glow:34codu0z]  rr/ For observation I am gonna go to FL and maybe Encino that day for sure.

same question here...but I guess it is like a simbol.

Or maybe because there is no Michael?... ;)
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 19, 2011, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: "scary4youbaby"
I bet he has a ton of favorite flowers! :)

yeah....and a ton of favourites disguises :evil:
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: paula-c on June 19, 2011, 03:48:18 PM
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scorpionchik wrote:

So nice of them, I got chills. Damn, Santa Barbara is far. I wonder if they would pick me up at Glendale.  Seriously, why fly over Neverland instead of Forest Lawn?  For observation I am gonna go to FL and maybe Encino that day for sure.
rr/  lolol/
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: hesouttamylife on June 19, 2011, 06:24:09 PM
Quote from: "Dancer"
TheKINGdom52 (I love her videos) made a video about it.

[BBvideo 425,350:2p29nk37]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kp9blXeLnc[/BBvideo:2p29nk37]

to be “closer to Michael”  would seem they would be flying over Forest Lawn you would think. fresse/ But they chose to floy over Neverland, why?  Because heaven is right there at Neverland, and so is Michael Jakson.  

Next year bet me the flower won’t be violets lolol/
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: mjj4ever777 on June 19, 2011, 06:45:44 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
May 7, 2009:

[attachment=0:3n5t2vjy]20090507_001.jpg[/attachment:3n5t2vjy]

I was sitting here looking at this picture trying to figure out why you posted this pic, and my husband walks by and says "hey, that's the same time as the clock at Neverland"!, and he didn't even see the TMZ article! He is getting better at all this "hoax" stuff then I am! lolol/

Hmmm...for some reason the pic didn't show up when I quoted you Grace.
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: PureLove on June 19, 2011, 08:06:32 PM
[dropshadow=red:126dvomb]Red rose reminds me of V of Vendetta.[/dropshadow:126dvomb]

(http://i52.tinypic.com/fa954o.jpg) (http://i54.tinypic.com/f2po37.jpg) (http://i54.tinypic.com/3484pw0.jpg)(http://i53.tinypic.com/906ecn.jpg)(http://i54.tinypic.com/120mj4k.jpg)

[dropshadow=blue:126dvomb]And of course this one.[/dropshadow:126dvomb] :D

(http://i56.tinypic.com/kbod2o.jpg) (http://i56.tinypic.com/v3f7fq.jpg)
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: lovemj4everandever on June 19, 2011, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
May 7, 2009:

[attachment=1:2qsq742l]20090507_001.jpg[/attachment:2qsq742l]


LOVE THIS PIC!  WATCH!  "Keep watchin' "  - quoted by Back!
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: paula-c on June 19, 2011, 09:44:02 PM
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~Souza~ wrote:

So last year his favorite flower was a sunflower, now it's a red rose. Okay...

One would almost think Mike is at Neverland, when you look at the last sentence



we have often spoken of islands in the Caribbean, Neverland is a lake with two water fountains at its center. In the middle is a small island which can be reached using a motorcycle or a jet ski to ferry swan-shaped pedal.


(http://casasdefamosos.es/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/neverland21-thumb.jpg)
















(http://casasdefamosos.es/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/neverland96-thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: paula-c on June 19, 2011, 09:54:38 PM
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a151/rowdy_angel/MJ/hollywoodtonight.jpg)
















an island below the lights of a city?
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: suspicious mind on June 19, 2011, 10:52:37 PM
here is me bein crazy again. there is an independant television station in la channel 18 . any thoughts?
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: voiceforthesilent on June 19, 2011, 11:15:45 PM
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
here is me bein crazy again. there is an independant television station in la channel 18 . any thoughts?

Thank you for sharing this - what are your thoughts about this independent television station? Are you thinking Michael owns it or will put out information on it? Do you know who the registered owner is? And what is the name of this station?

Blessings :)
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: GINAFELICIA on June 20, 2011, 12:24:55 AM
Grace do you know what book is that and why it shows the same time as the Neverland flower clock?
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: curls on June 20, 2011, 02:24:59 AM
I think the watch pic is just an ad on the back of a magazine. The times 10 to 2 (1:50) or 10 past 10 (10:10) are always used to create the right visual balance in advertising - have a look in a clock/watch seller's window, they're always set like this.
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: MJonmind on June 20, 2011, 04:24:50 AM
The words "dump" and "chuck" have negative implications as in throw away or drop without care or emotion, and why would they say a "flying" helicopter, or are some not meant to fly? :?  :lol:  (like Dumbo)

Also there are at least 6 occurances of a single rose, either pink or red, in HMH video, and more if you include the heart-shaped (choclate box) with many red roses on it.

(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb371/lifeisamovie1/-KoP-MJJ-michael-jackson-20388689-281-4001.jpg)
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: Grace on June 20, 2011, 09:34:18 AM
Quote from: "curls"
I think the watch pic is just an ad on the back of a magazine. The times 10 to 2 (1:50) or 10 past 10 (10:10) are always used to create the right visual balance in advertising - have a look in a clock/watch seller's window, they're always set like this.

Very interesting.
Why would the Neverland clock then needed to be set to a time according to
Quote
the right visual balance in advertising
?

Would this imply this picture would be PR material provided by Michael's advertising team to media / TMZ?

As to the alleged "no fly zone" over Neverland: maybe a pilote may help out reading these maps on "special fly zones":
http://sua.faa.gov/sua/siteFrame.app
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: blankie on June 20, 2011, 12:57:02 PM
I think these are all messages by MICHAEL Now that June 25 is approaching...If after two years we are still here now he is really sure that.....

IT'S ALL FOR LOVE

Rose, helicopter,Neverland......... :roll:  
I look forward to the 25    lolol/



 moonwalk_/
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: suspicious mind on June 20, 2011, 08:47:16 PM
Quote from: "voiceforthesilent"
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
here is me bein crazy again. there is an independant television station in la channel 18 . any thoughts?

Thank you for sharing this - what are your thoughts about this independent television station? Are you thinking Michael owns it or will put out information on it? Do you know who the registered owner is? And what is the name of this station?

Blessings :)

voice, you are asking for logical connections comming from my brain  :lol: all i know is my brain latched onto thoughts channel and 18 . my brain asked itself i wonder if there are any local news channels there in la that are 18.  imagine my surprise when there was one and it is independantly owned. seems like there have been statements regarding the hoax about michael going after the media with the help of one of it's own. way back one of the insider thingys suggested that attention be paid to things happening in not tabloid media ( could that mean local news?). i made this post right as i was heading to bed so i really didn't persue it any further. it is probably just another one of my crazy thoughts .maybe i will look deeper.
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: MJonmind on June 21, 2011, 03:31:42 AM
Quote from: "Grace"
Quote from: "curls"
I think the watch pic is just an ad on the back of a magazine. The times 10 to 2 (1:50) or 10 past 10 (10:10) are always used to create the right visual balance in advertising - have a look in a clock/watch seller's window, they're always set like this.

Very interesting.
Why would the Neverland clock then needed to be set to a time according to
Quote
the right visual balance in advertising
?

Would this imply this picture would be PR material provided by Michael's advertising team to media / TMZ?

As to the alleged "no fly zone" over Neverland: maybe a pilote may help out reading these maps on "special fly zones":
http://sua.faa.gov/sua/siteFrame.app
I noticed on the first page where the arial video of the wedding at Neverland was, and the camera/helicopter never showed the house or areas close to it. Perhaps there are strict rules on what can be filmed or flown over.

The time not only is visually balanced but it appears positive such as a smile or [blur=blue:17jqtkuz]V for victory.[/blur:17jqtkuz] 8:20 would seem like a frown.
I wonder if any crazy richer fans ever tried flying over Neverland over the years
Title: Re: MJ Anniversary -- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump!
Post by: wishingstar on June 21, 2011, 10:25:30 PM
Ok...I can't help it...it's gematria game time:

519 = "MJ Anniversary- The Flying Helicopter Flower Dump" = "Thank you To Everyone Who Has Input Helpful Data"

or if you just use the capital letters:

MJATFHFD = 68 = July = Carlos = Xscape = fbi files

*gematria is a system of giving numerical value to letters/words.  I have done a few posts about it...here is a basic one:

viewtopic.php?f=253&t=13708&hilit=gematria (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=13708&hilit=gematria)

Blessings Always!
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