Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 02:11:43 PM

Title: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 02:11:43 PM
Ok, these are all posted by TMZ today and they are all about the threats Michael got. Those threats happened in the 90s but they posted them now but why? :D

I think they're preparing us about the possible Witness Protection Program and I bet they will say that Michael got another threat and that's the reason why he got into the program. And I believe that these are all for the preparation of a possible come back. Ok here are the links :D Pls check out and tell me what you think :D

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/michael-j ... documents/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/michael-jackson-targeted-with-death-threat-president-george-h-bush-fbi-documents/)

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/michael-j ... -extortion (http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/michael-jackson-fbi-files-death-threat-woman-kill-extortion)

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/michael-j ... aul-jones/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/michael-jackson-janet-jackson-stalker-threat-gays-homosexual-frank-paul-jones/)

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/michael-j ... nta-maria/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/michael-jackson-fbi-terrorism-plot-santa-maria/)


Michael Jackson Targeted with Death Threat

Posted Dec 22nd 2009 11:38AM by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson Someone threatened to kill Michael Jackson, and then-President George H.W. Bush, according to FBI documents just released.

Someone wrote a letter on July 6, 1992, that the FBI obtained, stating, "I decided that because nobody is taking me serious, and I can't handle my state of mind, that I am going to Washington D.C. to threaten to kill the President of the United States, George Bush."

It goes on ..."Michael [Jackson] I will personally attempt to kill, if he doesn't pay me my money."

One of the documents, written by the L.A. City Attorney's office, indicated on June 22, 1992, the author of the letter "arrives in Calif at Jackson's . Threatens to kill."

The FBI says the person who wrote the letter was charged with extortion, pled guilty and was sentenced to prison in 1993.

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Jackson Death Threat -- All Over a Woman

Posted Dec 22nd 2009 11:48AM by TMZ Staff

Jackson Death Threat -- All Over a WomanThe person who threatened to kill Michael Jackson unless he got money also threatened to slaughter people at a Michael Jackson concert, according to documents just released by the FBI .. and it all appears to be a scheme to get a woman to notice him.

The person who wrote the threatening letters says, "I'll commit mass murder at a Michael Jackson concert if necessary, in an attempt to murder Michael, then you will have to deal with my situation in the public eye."

It appears from the letters the writer wants mobster John Gotti to fork over money and if he doesn't ... the writer threatens to kill Michael.

The person who wrote the letters appears to be obsessed with a woman and is making these threats to get her attention. Some of the letters were written to newspapers. He says, "I'm 33 years old and never had a real relationship in my life. I can't even slow dance."

The man was arrested on May 22, 1992 outside the White House. He was released on June 4, 1992, and one day later made threats to kill Michael Jackson.

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ackson Stalker Obsessed with Janet Jackson

Posted Dec 22nd 2009 12:06PM by TMZ Staff

Micheal Jackson The man who threatened to kill Michael Jackson believed he was married to Janet Jackson -- and law enforcement sources tell TMZ it was Janet that the man was obsessed over.

A law enforcement source tells TMZ the man also made threats to kill Janet and even showed up at the Jackson family home in Encino.

In his rambling letters, the man -- Frank Paul Jones -- says "The situation ... is centered around her confused sexuality." He goes on to say if she does not "overcome" her issue over sexuality, "I'm gonna try to kill every homosexual on the face of the earth. If I can't save my wife, they can't be saved."

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Terrorism Feared at Michael Jackson Trial

Posted Dec 22nd 2009 1:07PM by TMZ Staff

Terrorism Feared at Michael Jackson TrialAuthorities in the small California town where Michael Jackson stood trial for alleged molestation feared the venue might become a "soft target" for terrorists .. this according to docs just released by the FBI.

According to documents, Santa Maria police asked the FBI to get involved because the "worldwide media coverage" could prove irresistible to terror groups.

The FBI investigated and concluded there was no credible threat, but did note the presence of a "New Black Panther Party" member at Jackson's first court hearing.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: KeepTheFaith on December 22, 2009, 02:17:08 PM
Yes yes it is strange, why they released them after 16 years?
These things happened when i borned, and they release it now :O
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Infinitylady on December 22, 2009, 02:19:37 PM
hmmm.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 02:20:51 PM
Yep and they posted ALL of them on the same day? ;) There's only one reson for me to release these news now and I wrote it in my first post :D They're preparing us :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Lou on December 22, 2009, 02:23:03 PM
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Infinitylady on December 22, 2009, 02:24:41 PM
Quote
by LiberianGirl » Tue Dec 22, 2009 8:20 pm

Yep and they posted ALL of them on the same day?  There's only one reson for me to release these news now and I wrote it in my first post  They're preparing us

Just like they haven't yet posted his death on there as well (which is on another post.)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: lisap27 on December 22, 2009, 02:25:33 PM
they could just be tying to jump on the band wagon with the FBI files being released!! there thinkin i'll tell people who don't know about the files something that we have found out through our investigating!! even though we know where the info came from..

if you know what i mean.. like trying to blow their own trumpet!!
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 02:26:01 PM
for me was always the messenger, so to speak TMZ
yes that's quite possible that it is now preparing
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Miss.Peppers on December 22, 2009, 02:26:16 PM
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
Yes yes it is strange, why they released them after 16 years?
These things happened when i borned, and they release it now :O

Because they apparently cannot release FBI files on a "living person" and they have now been released under the freedom of information act.  Its the law, they have to release them.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: KeepTheFaith on December 22, 2009, 02:28:09 PM
It is posted on Larry King's blog too, but the firs  site was TMZ.
Oh what have i found on LKL blog http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009 ... t-in-2009/ (http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/22/the-stars-we-lost-in-2009/)
i hate reading posts like this especially from LK
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 02:30:00 PM
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)

Guys I really do NOT remember where and when I heard about this but as far as I know Michael BOUGHT TMZ just for this hoax in 2007! So, if I'm sure of something, I'm SURE that TMZ works for Michael ;)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: KeepTheFaith on December 22, 2009, 02:30:23 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
Yes yes it is strange, why they released them after 16 years?
These things happened when i borned, and they release it now :O

Because they apparently cannot release FBI files on a "living person" and they have now been released under the freedom of information act.  Its the law, they have to release them.

Oh it's not too good... :(
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 02:34:35 PM
Quote from: "Miss.Peppers"
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
Yes yes it is strange, why they released them after 16 years?
These things happened when i borned, and they release it now :O

Because they apparently cannot release FBI files on a "living person" and they have now been released under the freedom of information act.  Its the law, they have to release them.

They had to realese the threat issue because of the FBI files? Don't get it. What's the connection btw the threats and the child molest case?  :?
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 02:55:58 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)

Guys I really do NOT remember where and when I heard about this but as far as I know Michael BOUGHT TMZ just for this hoax in 2007! So, if I'm sure of something, I'm SURE that TMZ works for Michael ;)

SAY WHAT?
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Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 22, 2009, 02:56:45 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
for me was always the messenger, so to speak TMZ
yes that's quite possible that it is now preparing
YES THIS DOES MAKE SENSE AND TMZ I THOUGHT ALWAYS KNEW WAY TO MUCH
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: See on December 22, 2009, 02:57:58 PM
Awww...... poor Michael, I connot emagine how life must be like for him.
getting death threats from random ppl, being accused of molesting childeren, bashed for his apperance...
he just could not get a break... he must have been in constand fear, poor Michael  :cry:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 03:00:20 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)

Guys I really do NOT remember where and when I heard about this but as far as I know Michael BOUGHT TMZ just for this hoax in 2007! So, if I'm sure of something, I'm SURE that TMZ works for Michael ;)

SAY WHAT?
(http://i49.tinypic.com/21n3w3o.gif)

 :lol:   :lol:   :lol:  I loved the expression of his face  :lol:

Seriously, wish I could remember but I swear that I read or heard or someone told me that TMZ is a paid media by Michael Jackson and he bought it in 2007! :)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Infinitylady on December 22, 2009, 03:02:00 PM
LiberianGirl:

Quote
They had to realese the threat issue because of the FBI files? Don't get it. What's the connection btw the threats and the child molest case?  

Well, if he didn't do what they wanted him to do they would put child molestation allegations on him. Dick Gregory mentioned something about this on his video(youtube).
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 03:02:37 PM
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
Quote from: "angelshadow"
for me was always the messenger, so to speak TMZ
yes that's quite possible that it is now preparing
YES THIS DOES MAKE SENSE AND TMZ I THOUGHT ALWAYS KNEW WAY TO MUCH

They know too much to announce his "death" before everyone lol  :lol:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 03:04:50 PM
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
LiberianGirl:

Quote
They had to realese the threat issue because of the FBI files? Don't get it. What's the connection btw the threats and the child molest case?  

Well, if he didn't do what they wanted him to do they would put child molestation allegations on him. Dick Gregory mentioned something about this on his video(youtube).

I was talking about TMZ lol Someone wrote that TMZ had to post these threat news today and I wrote as an aswer to that :)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on December 22, 2009, 03:06:39 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
Quote from: "angelshadow"
for me was always the messenger, so to speak TMZ
yes that's quite possible that it is now preparing
YES THIS DOES MAKE SENSE AND TMZ I THOUGHT ALWAYS KNEW WAY TO MUCH

They know too much to announce his "death" before everyone lol  :lol:
:D AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT MJ OWNED TMZ AS WELL OR HAD AT LEAST SOME CONTROL IN IT
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 03:12:07 PM
Yes, TMZ always one step ahead ....... :lol:
Next?
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on December 22, 2009, 03:18:26 PM
I thought that I read that TMZ was owned by Time Warner and so is CNN :?:  :?:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: itsall4love on December 22, 2009, 03:23:57 PM
Stupid question probably:
Does anybody else sees some green, apparently hyperlinked words in the TMZ article?
Such as this?
[attachment=0:21rz1axk]tmzfbi.jpg[/attachment:21rz1axk]
I noticed the word "married" was green so I clicked it, nothing happened, it seemed to link to the exact article I was reading. After a while the hyperlink was gone. So I refreshed the page, and the word was green again.
There are 3 other  "green" words, in the comment section: "money" "backstage" "security".
And sorry if there's a perfectly logical explanation for this :lol: I'm not really an internet savvy. :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Infinitylady on December 22, 2009, 03:25:35 PM
LiberianGirl
Quote
They had to realese the threat issue because of the FBI files? Don't get it. What's the connection btw the threats and the child molest case?

I was responding to your reply on this.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 03:27:46 PM
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i could watch this video all day cuz its so befitting and hilarious. lol

back to the tmz thing, I just thought that that photographer ('that day and the other da, and um um' guy i always forget his name) was good friends with Mikey but i didn't know Mj owned TMZ.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 03:29:22 PM
Its all 4 Love

Great :!:
That is what we want to hear ;)  :lol:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: O-drey-O on December 22, 2009, 03:30:08 PM
It's indeed VERY interesting... There are so many unexplained things...thanks for posting this!

Quote
Today Harvey Levin is a managing editor at TMZ.com, a celebrity news and gossip site launched by Time Warner-AOL in December 2005. He also executive produces and hosts TMZ on TV.
That's what I found on wikipedia ...
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 03:30:41 PM
Quote from: "itsall4love"
Stupid question probably:
Does anybody else sees some green, apparently hyperlinked words in the TMZ article?
Such as this?
[attachment=0:1ajsgpl0]tmzfbi.jpg[/attachment:1ajsgpl0]
I noticed the word "married" was green so I clicked it, nothing happened, it seemed to link to the exact article I was reading. After a while the hyperlink was gone. So I refreshed the page, and the word was green again.
There are 3 other  "green" words, in the comment section: "money" "backstage" "security".
And sorry if there's a perfectly logical explanation for this :lol: I'm not really an internet savvy. :D

oh yeah me neither. its surprising i even know how to access the internet. lol jk
but it happened with me too. Janet Jackson in the title for me was green. i didnt click it though.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: jonnysgirldangerous on December 22, 2009, 03:32:18 PM
What I found strange today is that just after the FBI released the files, there were already a few articles in TMZ about it. How could they read all those pages that fast to start putting things up in their site? Of course, I could be wrong.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 03:36:37 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "itsall4love"
Stupid question probably:
Does anybody else sees some green, apparently hyperlinked words in the TMZ article?
Such as this?
[attachment=0:kit1jme8]tmzfbi.jpg[/attachment:kit1jme8]
I noticed the word "married" was green so I clicked it, nothing happened, it seemed to link to the exact article I was reading. After a while the hyperlink was gone. So I refreshed the page, and the word was green again.
There are 3 other  "green" words, in the comment section: "money" "backstage" "security".
And sorry if there's a perfectly logical explanation for this :lol: I'm not really an internet savvy. :D

oh yeah me neither. its surprising i even know how to access the internet. lol jk
but it happened with me too. Janet Jackson in the title for me was green. i didnt click it though.


Wow that's weird because there's nothing in green when I open the page  :shock:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 03:38:00 PM
Is just crazy ...
I would not have clicked on this green writing :lol:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Infinitylady on December 22, 2009, 03:38:18 PM
itsall4love:
Quote
Stupid question probably:
Does anybody else sees some green, apparently hyperlinked words in the TMZ article?
Such as this?
[/b]


Yeah, it says tmzfbg.jpg  or something like that. I just clicked on the green link in the article you enclosed.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: juliet on December 22, 2009, 03:39:49 PM
LIBERIAN, thanks for the TMZ info.  As ANGELSHADOW has mentioned, TMZ is the messenger.  I have posted since the beginning that Michael was threatened but I guess I was ignored because other speculations were more interesting to the others.

Just remember, everybody, Jermaine has said tactlessly which was a very distinct clue that he is alive "MICHAEL IS IN SAFE KEEPING".  Check and re-check the vids.

Good work LIBERIAN
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 03:41:32 PM
Quote from: "juliet"
LIBERIAN, thanks for the TMZ info.  As ANGELSHADOW has mentioned, TMZ is the messenger.  I have posted since the beginning that Michael was threatened but I guess I was ignored because other speculations were more interesting to the others.

Just remember, everybody, Jermaine has said tactlessly which was a very distinct clue that he is alive "MICHAEL IS IN SAFE KEEPING".  Check and re-check the vids.

Good work LIBERIAN

what vid did Jermaine say that in?
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 03:42:52 PM
@juliet,
you seem quite right to have ;)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 03:43:57 PM
Quote from: "juliet"
LIBERIAN, thanks for the TMZ info.  As ANGELSHADOW has mentioned, TMZ is the messenger.  I have posted since the beginning that Michael was threatened but I guess I was ignored because other speculations were more interesting to the others.

Just remember, everybody, Jermaine has said tactlessly which was a very distinct clue that he is alive "MICHAEL IS IN SAFE KEEPING".  Check and re-check the vids.

Good work LIBERIAN

Thank you hon. Yes, I remember Jermain saying that. Did he say it in Larry King show? That's what I remember :)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: itsall4love on December 22, 2009, 03:44:51 PM
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
itsall4love:
Quote
Stupid question probably:
Does anybody else sees some green, apparently hyperlinked words in the TMZ article?
Such as this?
[/b]


Yeah, it says tmzfbg.jpg  or something like that. I just clicked on the green link in the article you enclosed.

Oh, that's the title of the picture I attached. I made a print screen of it. I guess it didn't loaded. Here it is again:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2733/4207315968_58b59ebcac_o.jpg)
hope you see the image now.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 03:46:31 PM
I wanna ask tmz live "why have they not added Mj to the obituary list if he is indeed gone?" has anyone asked them?
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: itsall4love on December 22, 2009, 03:48:52 PM
I think I got it.
TMZ has a list of words that they underline like that everytime they appear, it's not just in MJ related articles.  The "green words" I read until now, in several articles are:
money
backstage
married
security
Tiger
couple
home
dog
FBI
office
computers
Christmas
lawyer
reality show
children
Could they mean anything? Why are they in green?
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 03:49:53 PM
Quote from: "itsall4love"
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
itsall4love:
Quote
Stupid question probably:
Does anybody else sees some green, apparently hyperlinked words in the TMZ article?
Such as this?
[/b]


Yeah, it says tmzfbg.jpg  or something like that. I just clicked on the green link in the article you enclosed.

Oh, that's the title of the picture I attached. I made a print screen of it. I guess it didn't loaded. Here it is again:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2733/4207315968_58b59ebcac_o.jpg)
hope you see the image now.

i think it might be like a search engine that highlights key words. I clicked on the green word on the site which is now "home in" and it has really not shown me anything.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Lou on December 22, 2009, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)

Guys I really do NOT remember where and when I heard about this but as far as I know Michael BOUGHT TMZ just for this hoax in 2007! So, if I'm sure of something, I'm SURE that TMZ works for Michael ;)
LiberianGirl, I've never heard of it, but if it's true... wow!
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 03:51:18 PM
I always believed TMZ had their foot in the hoax. First to report death, even before Jermaine Jackson made his public announcement... Leaked video from the Pepsi accident... Videos of Conrad Murray returning to his office and in childsupport trial... Leaked autopsy reports...

I know Michael was againts tabloids and paparazzis, but it would be rather genious of him to cooperate with paparazzis and a tabloid like TMZ to master his hoax.

Very odd that these papers were released and not any kind of papers from the second trial/accusations.. Only papers from a death threat made againts him. This would support the witness protection theories.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 03:52:10 PM
[color = # FF00BF] itsall4love, [/ color]
the list :o

Yes, that's amazing, we use it to our list of related
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 03:54:21 PM
Quote from: "Lou"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)

Guys I really do NOT remember where and when I heard about this but as far as I know Michael BOUGHT TMZ just for this hoax in 2007! So, if I'm sure of something, I'm SURE that TMZ works for Michael ;)
LiberianGirl, I've never heard of it, but if it's true... wow!

That's just something I heard but I always thought that TMZ has been working for Michael from the beginning. So I believe that it's true. And it's so normal for them not to say that they work for him :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: itsall4love on December 22, 2009, 03:55:08 PM
Oh I give up...there are too many "green words" ..
police
Holidays
door
Rhode Island
Lincoln
I bet there're hundreds of green words meaning probably nothing...
Maybe they used to link somewhere...that's why the're green...who knows?
I guess I need some rest :lol:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 22, 2009, 03:55:18 PM
Quote from: "itsall4love"
I think I got it.
TMZ has a list of words that they underline like that everytime they appear, it's not just in MJ related articles.  The "green words" I read until now, in several articles are:
money
backstage
married
security
Tiger
couple
home
dog
FBI
office
computers
Christmas
lawyer
reality show
children
Could they mean anything? Why are they in green?

Its keyword links that link to other articles containing the same words... When i click it took me to another page /story with that keyword in it..
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 03:57:51 PM
Quote from: "O-drey-O"
It's indeed VERY interesting... There are so many unexplained things...thanks for posting this!

Quote
Today Harvey Levin is a managing editor at TMZ.com, a celebrity news and gossip site launched by Time Warner-AOL in December 2005. He also executive produces and hosts TMZ on TV.
That's what I found on wikipedia ...

In 2001 AOL Time Warner Inc. and Sony Corporation have announced an agreement to expand their strategic relationship.
In turn, Sony Corporation owns Sony/BMG Music Entertainment - Michael Jackson's major record label.

Does it make sense now? :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 03:59:20 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "O-drey-O"
It's indeed VERY interesting... There are so many unexplained things...thanks for posting this!

Quote
Today Harvey Levin is a managing editor at TMZ.com, a celebrity news and gossip site launched by Time Warner-AOL in December 2005. He also executive produces and hosts TMZ on TV.
That's what I found on wikipedia ...

In 2001 AOL Time Warner Inc. and Sony Corporation have announced an agreement to expand their strategic relationship.
In turn, Sony Corporation owns Sony/BMG Music Entertainment - Michael Jackson's major record label.

Does it make sense now? :D

So maybe sony is making up for not promoting Michael's Invincible album by now being part of the hoax?  :?:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 03:59:48 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
I always believed TMZ had their foot in the hoax. First to report death, even before Jermaine Jackson made his public announcement... Leaked video from the Pepsi accident... Videos of Conrad Murray returning to his office and in childsupport trial... Leaked autopsy reports...

I know Michael was againts tabloids and paparazzis, but it would be rather genious of him to cooperate with paparazzis and a tabloid like TMZ to master his hoax.

Very odd that these papers were released and not any kind of papers from the second trial/accusations.. Only papers from a death threat made againts him. This would support the witness protection theories.

That's my girl! We always have the same thoughts hon so YAY lol :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 04:04:36 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"

So maybe sony is making up for not promoting Michael's Invincible album by now being part of the hoax?  :?:


This may sound crazy but I've started to think that the speech that Michael made against Sony could be a preparetion for the hoax maybe. Or maybe it was real but then Michael bought Sony too :D This gets deeper everytime lol
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Crescendo on December 22, 2009, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "Crescendo"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"

So maybe sony is making up for not promoting Michael's Invincible album by now being part of the hoax?  :?:


This may sound crazy but I've started to think that the speech that Michael made against Sony could be a preparetion for the hoax maybe. Or maybe it was real but then Michael bought Sony too :D This gets deeper everytime lol


lol i even dumbfounded myself with that statement i made. like maybe.. just maybe

for that i gotta use this again
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lol but i dont mean to start a rumor. i just thought quite possibly that is what could have happened.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: itsall4love on December 22, 2009, 04:10:31 PM
@Leah-Kim
I thought that's what they are, but can keywords have nothing to do (in meaning) with the article itself ?
Like that one about Janet. married, money, backstage, security - do these count as "keywords"? they don't represent the content of the article. And beside "married", the other words are in the comments section, not in the article itself.
 :?: I'm confused.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Lou on December 22, 2009, 04:15:23 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
That's just something I heard but I always thought that TMZ has been working for Michael from the beginning. So I believe that it's true. And it's so normal for them not to say that they work for him :D

I agree, I've always thought that they are part of all this too. I've just remembered that I saw a video on YT about TMZ and MJ. Don't know if I can find it now...
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 22, 2009, 04:17:19 PM
I always spied on TMZ ;)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: itsall4love on December 22, 2009, 04:24:20 PM
I'm categorizing the infamous "green words" as keywords and I'm going to bed!
I'm just adding some more to the list before I go :lol:
cameras
glove
history
reward
concert
nationwide
 :?: keywords huh...
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Kirsche on December 22, 2009, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)


This was the first question I thought about when I read this...

It's really strange, that they  released these posts all on the same day....even though there are a lot other things to tell the world ( Like Brittany Murphys death ( R.I.P.) )
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: StripedFeline on December 22, 2009, 05:01:15 PM
Quote from: "itsall4love"
I'm categorizing the infamous "green words" as keywords and I'm going to bed!
I'm just adding some more to the list before I go :lol:
cameras
glove
history
reward
concert
nationwide
 :?: keywords huh...

You know, that sometimes happens to me on various odd sites. It's nothing really special to look into. Like someone mentioned before, it's something related to a search engine. It links odd words, etc.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Leah-Kim on December 22, 2009, 05:04:59 PM
Quote from: "StripedFeline"
Quote from: "itsall4love"
I'm categorizing the infamous "green words" as keywords and I'm going to bed!
I'm just adding some more to the list before I go :lol:
cameras
glove
history
reward
concert
nationwide
 :?: keywords huh...

You know, that sometimes happens to me on various odd sites. It's nothing really special to look into. Like someone mentioned before, it's something related to a search engine. It links odd words, etc.
But then i went back to the site and they were no longer green!!!!!!! Now thats weird......
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 05:09:26 PM
Quote from: "Leah-Kim"
Quote from: "StripedFeline"
Quote from: "itsall4love"
I'm categorizing the infamous "green words" as keywords and I'm going to bed!
I'm just adding some more to the list before I go :lol:
cameras
glove
history
reward
concert
nationwide
 :?: keywords huh...

You know, that sometimes happens to me on various odd sites. It's nothing really special to look into. Like someone mentioned before, it's something related to a search engine. It links odd words, etc.
But then i went back to the site and they were no longer green!!!!!!! Now thats weird......

I've never seen anything green on TMZ pages today. That's really weird. Do we need to pay attention to them? What do you think?
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Doreen316 on December 22, 2009, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: "Crescendo"
I wanna ask tmz live "why have they not added Mj to the obituary list if he is indeed gone?" has anyone asked them?


yes I have on several occasions and they have never chosen my question. Although harvey has read my questions and answered them several times live (i think about 7 times now).. 1 time i asked about  the jan 18th date and the search warrants (which were released like 2 days after TMZ's article) and he said it was a great questions and even read my name on air! i have asked several times about things that could invalidate the dc (such as Joe vs Joesph, the purple ink stuff etc.) and they never answer those!
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 05:11:19 PM
Ohh and btw This Is Also It revealed :D You guys read it? I'm reading it right now and according to TIAI, MJ IS COMING BACK! :D :D :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: KeepTheFaith on December 22, 2009, 05:12:28 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Ohh and btw This Is Also It revealed :D You guys read it? I'm reading it right now and according to TIAI, MJ IS COMING BACK! :D :D :D

But when? Nobody knows..
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Doreen316 on December 22, 2009, 05:16:11 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)


This was the first question I thought about when I read this...

It's really strange, that they  released these posts all on the same day....even though there are a lot other things to tell the world ( Like Brittany Murphys death ( R.I.P.) )

I am guessing they are just releasing that b/c they got the info from the fbi files today..
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 22, 2009, 05:19:46 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)

Guys I really do NOT remember where and when I heard about this but as far as I know Michael BOUGHT TMZ just for this hoax in 2007! So, if I'm sure of something, I'm SURE that TMZ works for Michael ;)

I remember I read somewhere, I can't recall where :| , that TMZ is a part of a company wich belongs to Kingdom Productions. Wich is a collaboration of Michael and a Arabic prince. I cant remember wich prince.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 05:24:59 PM
Quote from: "Doreen316"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)


This was the first question I thought about when I read this...

It's really strange, that they  released these posts all on the same day....even though there are a lot other things to tell the world ( Like Brittany Murphys death ( R.I.P.) )

I am guessing they are just releasing that b/c they got the info from the fbi files today..

The FBI files contains many information. They could write about child molest but they prefered to focus on the "THREATS". I highly believe that they did it on purpose ;)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)

Guys I really do NOT remember where and when I heard about this but as far as I know Michael BOUGHT TMZ just for this hoax in 2007! So, if I'm sure of something, I'm SURE that TMZ works for Michael ;)

I remember I read somewhere, I can't recall where :| , that TMZ is a part of a company wich belongs to Kingdom Productions. Wich is a collaboration of Michael and a Arabic prince. I cant remember wich prince.

Yep I think it was in a hoax video :) Or somewhere else but I can not remember.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 05:35:02 PM
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Ohh and btw This Is Also It revealed :D You guys read it? I'm reading it right now and according to TIAI, MJ IS COMING BACK! :D :D :D

But when? Nobody knows..

This is when ;)

Then what about the MJ “Return” to public view, when will that be? Well, the sad thing is that potentially he could’ve returned at Halloween; but we were not ready. We did not understand the NWO conspiracy aspect of the hoax, or the seriousness of it; in fact, the old MJHD was forbidding discussion on this subject! And just a few days later, it went down and was out for about a week. We simply were not ready for MJ to return yet; if he had, in all the excitement, people would’ve had little or no interest in studying into the NWO aspects of the hoax.

Since people were not ready for the MJ return at Halloween: immediately after the TII movie was released, TIAI was set up. The purpose of TIAI was (and still is) to give MJ fans, and especially hoax believers, a better understanding and bigger picture of the hoax and the reasons for it; this in turn would help prepare the way for the MJ “Return”!
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 22, 2009, 05:56:18 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "KeepTheFaith"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Ohh and btw This Is Also It revealed :D You guys read it? I'm reading it right now and according to TIAI, MJ IS COMING BACK! :D :D :D

But when? Nobody knows..

This is when ;)

Then what about the MJ “Return” to public view, when will that be? Well, the sad thing is that potentially he could’ve returned at Halloween; but we were not ready. We did not understand the NWO conspiracy aspect of the hoax, or the seriousness of it; in fact, the old MJHD was forbidding discussion on this subject! And just a few days later, it went down and was out for about a week. We simply were not ready for MJ to return yet; if he had, in all the excitement, people would’ve had little or no interest in studying into the NWO aspects of the hoax.

Since people were not ready for the MJ return at Halloween: immediately after the TII movie was released, TIAI was set up. The purpose of TIAI was (and still is) to give MJ fans, and especially hoax believers, a better understanding and bigger picture of the hoax and the reasons for it; this in turn would help prepare the way for the MJ “Return”!

This does make a lot of sense!  :shock:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 06:04:41 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"

This does make a lot of sense!  :shock:

This is what S.T.U.D.Y (TIAI) wrote. We should warn people about the truth so fast and wake them up. So Michael can come back sooner.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 06:06:37 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"

This is what S.T.U.D.Y (TIAI) wrote. We should warn people about the truth so fast and wake them up. So Michael can come back sooner.

I heard about this person, can someone englighten me what this was all about, was TIAI a study on peoples minds relating to the hoax? Is he behind that website?
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"

This is what S.T.U.D.Y (TIAI) wrote. We should warn people about the truth so fast and wake them up. So Michael can come back sooner.

I heard about this person, can someone englighten me what this was all about, was TIAI a study on peoples minds relating to the hoax? Is he behind that website?

Hon I'm making a new post about it ;) But it can take a little long :)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 06:16:24 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"

Hon I'm making a new post about it ;) But it can take a little long :)

Thank you, I appreciate it. Take your time because I want to know everything.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Dancing_Machine on December 22, 2009, 06:22:47 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"

This is what S.T.U.D.Y (TIAI) wrote. We should warn people about the truth so fast and wake them up. So Michael can come back sooner.

I heard about this person, can someone englighten me what this was all about, was TIAI a study on peoples minds relating to the hoax? Is he behind that website?

I think he wants to teach us a great lesson about the nwo and illuminati and how they control the whole world, our lives and minds. I dug into this a while ago, before june 25th. So I know they are his biggest enemy.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 06:24:48 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"

I think he wants to teach us a great lesson about the nwo and illuminati and how they control the whole world, our lives and minds. I dug into this a while ago, before june 25th. So I know they are his biggest enemy.

From day 1 when I started to believe the hoax I believed Michael did this to prove something, to make us open our eyes to society and to make us more aware of our surroundings and the things that are happening to him. And to get back at the media. It all makes sense.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: foralltime on December 22, 2009, 06:37:29 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "O-drey-O"
It's indeed VERY interesting... There are so many unexplained things...thanks for posting this!

Quote
Today Harvey Levin is a managing editor at TMZ.com, a celebrity news and gossip site launched by Time Warner-AOL in December 2005. He also executive produces and hosts TMZ on TV.
That's what I found on wikipedia ...

In 2001 AOL Time Warner Inc. and Sony Corporation have announced an agreement to expand their strategic relationship.
In turn, Sony Corporation owns Sony/BMG Music Entertainment - Michael Jackson's major record label.

Does it make sense now? :D

 No it doesn't make sence because Michael left Sony in 2002
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 06:44:42 PM
Quote from: "foralltime"

 No it doesn't make sence because Michael left Sony in 2002

That's what we heard from the media. Do we believe in media? I don't.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Keep.the.Faith on December 22, 2009, 06:45:29 PM
At last some clues! Perfect ones! Now I'm 1000% sure he's alive and can't wait for the big day to come! Even people around me who rollled their eyes when I was talking about the hoax  are now able to believe it which makes things even better:)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 06:46:20 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"

This is what S.T.U.D.Y (TIAI) wrote. We should warn people about the truth so fast and wake them up. So Michael can come back sooner.

I heard about this person, can someone englighten me what this was all about, was TIAI a study on peoples minds relating to the hoax? Is he behind that website?

I think he wants to teach us a great lesson about the nwo and illuminati and how they control the whole world, our lives and minds. I dug into this a while ago, before june 25th. So I know they are his biggest enemy.

Absolutely! But the question is how can wake others up? They don't even believe that he is alive. I think we should make a plan for L.O.V.E! What do u think?
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: mjboogie on December 22, 2009, 06:55:40 PM
Good job!! Keep up the good work. I am just puzzled as to why they would release the files now. I mean wasn't the guy arrested? Or ok I am totally confused , I am assuming there are more death threats right? I mean more death threats in the documents. Also, I thought the L.A. Times were the first to report MJ"s death. ... but never mind they are not a media source. You all are right TMZ was the very first media source to have this info. I will just keep reading through all the findings pertaining  to the files so I can understand better. But guys I must say if this is MJ ! Really being alive! I will cry for days out of sheer joy! (and i have never met this man! :)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: foralltime on December 22, 2009, 06:56:53 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "foralltime"

 No it doesn't make sence because Michael left Sony in 2002

That's what we heard from the media. Do we believe in media? I don't.


 Well maybe you sould here it from Michael himself then watch the speech he gave you can here and see it on youtube. "Michael Jackson Vs Sony - Speech Londen"
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 06:58:26 PM
Quote from: "foralltime"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "foralltime"

 No it doesn't make sence because Michael left Sony in 2002

That's what we heard from the media. Do we believe in media? I don't.


 Well maybe you sould here it from Michael himself then watch the speech he gave you can here and see it on youtube. "Michael Jackson Vs Sony - Speech Londen"

I know that speech. We talked about it too.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 07:02:07 PM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Good job!! Keep up the good work. I am just puzzled as to why they would release the files now. I mean wasn't the guy arrested? Or ok I am totally confused , I am assuming there are more death threats right? I mean more death threats in the documents. Also, I thought the L.A. Times were the first to report MJ"s death. ... but never mind they are not a media source. You all are right TMZ was the very first media source to have this info. I will just keep reading through all the findings pertaining  to the files so I can understand better. But guys I must say if this is MJ ! Really being alive! I will cry for days out of sheer joy! (and i have never met this man! :)

Thank you :) Do you still have doubts about him being alive? Pls just throw away your conflicts. Because it is so obvious that he IS alive and we have so much more to do ;) We need to get to the next stage of this awakening project :)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: foralltime on December 22, 2009, 07:22:49 PM
:? If you now the speech  liberiangirl what was the reason for pionting this out  :?:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
Quote from: "foralltime"
:? If you now the speech  liberiangirl what was the reason for pionting this out  :?:
As I wrote, we talked about it on the previous posts. You can go back and read it. And btw we do NOT know if Michael bought Sony back or not. I don't believe that Sony and Michael are enemies. If they were why would Michael accept to do TII tour with Sony-AEG? Think deeper pls.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: foralltime on December 22, 2009, 07:41:09 PM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "foralltime"
:? If you now the speech  liberiangirl what was the reason for pionting this out  :?:
As I wrote, we talked about it on the previous posts. You can go back and read it. And btw we do NOT know if Michael bought Sony back or not. I don't believe that Sony and Michael are enemies. If they were why would Michael accept to do TII tour with Sony-AEG? Think deeper pls.

I am thinker deeper and reading the facts you were talking about Michaels RECORD label Sony movie has NOTHING to do with this that is a whole other department.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 07:51:45 PM
Quote from: "foralltime"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "foralltime"
:? If you now the speech  liberiangirl what was the reason for pionting this out  :?:
As I wrote, we talked about it on the previous posts. You can go back and read it. And btw we do NOT know if Michael bought Sony back or not. I don't believe that Sony and Michael are enemies. If they were why would Michael accept to do TII tour with Sony-AEG? Think deeper pls.

I am thinker deeper and reading the facts you were talking about Michaels RECORD label Sony movie has NOTHING to do with this that is a whole other department.

Sony-AEG is the producer of TII tour ! You need to learn more then! And stop writing negative things to my posts all the time! You do it all the time! I don't get your intention because whatever I post, you write something negative and try to disparage my post. Sorry but I don't have time to spend with people like you. And I'm NOT going to answer you again because I didn't like your intention!
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Star Gazer on December 22, 2009, 08:00:36 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)


This was the first question I thought about when I read this...

It's really strange, that they  released these posts all on the same day....even though there are a lot other things to tell the world ( Like Brittany Murphys death ( R.I.P.) )

They weren't posting a lot about Michael recently and now it's like a whole page of stories. I thought why not put it as one post and just talk about it all in one - why post numerous stories about the same thing?
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 08:04:27 PM
Quote from: "Star Gazer"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Lou"
Yes I agree, it's interesting that they are posting it now, and why TMZ? ;)


This was the first question I thought about when I read this...

It's really strange, that they  released these posts all on the same day....even though there are a lot other things to tell the world ( Like Brittany Murphys death ( R.I.P.) )

They weren't posting a lot about Michael recently and now it's like a whole page of stories. I thought why not put it as one post and just talk about it all in one - why post numerous stories about the same thing?

If it is about the preparation for a come back, it explains everything. Otherwise it would be so meaningless to post them all in a day with different posts :)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: mjboogie on December 22, 2009, 09:57:39 PM
Come on guys!!! It all for L.O.V.E. Remember? We are all in this together? :)  :)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 22, 2009, 10:12:45 PM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Come on guys!!! It all for L.O.V.E. Remember? We are all in this together? :)  :)

Yeah it's funny to see some people prefer to focus on negativity. They don't even bother to read what we write  :roll:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: EarthAngel90 on December 22, 2009, 10:45:15 PM
Quote from: "See"
Awww...... poor Michael, I connot emagine how life must be like for him.
getting death threats from random ppl, being accused of molesting childeren, bashed for his apperance...
he just could not get a break... he must have been in constand fear, poor Michael  :cry:


I know , I can't possibly imagine that ....  :shock:  :cry:  :(
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: foralltime on December 23, 2009, 04:14:10 AM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Come on guys!!! It all for L.O.V.E. Remember? We are all in this together? :)  :)

Yeah it's funny to see some people prefer to focus on negativity. They don't even bother to read what we write  :roll:

Can you please show me some respect here and stop acting like a spoiled little child. We are on this forum to search for the trutht. If you can't handle it that i'm questioning you about a topic you started  don't post is. There is absolutly no negativity at all just trying to get the facts straight.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Crescendo on December 23, 2009, 06:21:42 AM
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "foralltime"
:? If you now the speech  liberiangirl what was the reason for pionting this out  :?:
As I wrote, we talked about it on the previous posts. You can go back and read it. And btw we do NOT know if Michael bought Sony back or not. I don't believe that Sony and Michael are enemies. If they were why would Michael accept to do TII tour with Sony-AEG? Think deeper pls.


bshh I would think Mj and AEG would be enemies now after they signed him up for 50 shows instead of 10?
That would tick me off if I were Michael.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 23, 2009, 11:02:59 AM
Quote from: "foralltime"
Quote from: "LiberianGirl"
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Come on guys!!! It all for L.O.V.E. Remember? We are all in this together? :)  :)

Yeah it's funny to see some people prefer to focus on negativity. They don't even bother to read what we write  :roll:

Can you please show me some respect here and stop acting like a spoiled little child. We are on this forum to search for the trutht. If you can't handle it that i'm questioning you about a topic you started  don't post is. There is absolutly no negativity at all just trying to get the facts straight.

So if you take this personally, it means that you accept you're the one who makes negative posts :D Thank you for the clarification! :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: O-drey-O on December 23, 2009, 01:47:26 PM
Ok thank you for the infos :) . That was what confused me a little but now I think I got it... Michael fought against Sony during the Invincible era, but  actually he was fighting against Tommy Mottola.. (correct me if I'm wrong)
We all think as Michael being alive, so if he is controlling things (I hope he is...) I don't really think he would let the people he hate (as the media say) promote and earn money from his work. Right? There must be something that we don't know ...he may be on Sony's side now and be behind this...
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: princesspea on December 23, 2009, 02:10:44 PM
Things have been so quiet for a while and then this. I seriously think this is a BIG clue guys.  
Oh and if Michael has ANY financial interest in TMZ then I think we pretty much have this all wrapped up! :lol:

When this is all over we all deserve a big pat on the back. We have never given up. :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 23, 2009, 02:12:51 PM
:D Yes, we pull it through ;)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: truth_prevails on December 23, 2009, 03:05:34 PM
Quote from: "O-drey-O"
Ok thank you for the infos :) . That was what confused me a little but now I think I got it... Michael fought against Sony during the Invincible era, but  actually he was fighting against Tommy Mottola.. (correct me if I'm wrong)
We all think as Michael being alive, so if he is controlling things (I hope he is...) I don't really think he would let the people he hate (as the media say) promote and earn money from his work. Right? There must be something that we don't know ...he may be on Sony's side now and be behind this...
...My understanding was that MJ was talking about Major Record Labels like Sony all together...but ESPECIALLY Tommy Mottola...at least at that time....
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: truth_prevails on December 23, 2009, 03:09:07 PM
Quote from: "princesspea"
Things have been so quiet for a while and then this. I seriously think this is a BIG clue guys.  
Oh and if Michael has ANY financial interest in TMZ then I think we pretty much have this all wrapped up! :lol:

When this is all over we all deserve a big pat on the back. We have never given up. :D
...I also though TMZ is in it since the beginning...just hope for the sake of my health ( missing sleep) that we can pat our backs pretty soon... ;)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: angelshadow on December 23, 2009, 03:13:33 PM
TMZ=Yellow Brick Road :?:
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: O-drey-O on December 23, 2009, 03:26:00 PM
Especially Tommy Mottola yes... "especially" was the right word to use. Sorry I didn't express myself very well :oops:
More it goes, and more I'm exited about this. I feel like there are a lot of things coming.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 23, 2009, 04:24:06 PM
Quote from: "O-drey-O"
Especially Tommy Mottola yes... "especially" was the right word to use. Sorry I didn't express myself very well :oops:
More it goes, and more I'm exited about this. I feel like there are a lot of things coming.

You express yourself very well hon. Ok about the Sony connection of Michael, I personally don't think that they're enemies. Remember TII was sponsored by who? SONY-AEG! Kenny Ortega told this. If Michael hated Sony, why did he accept to work with Sony? ;)

So I believe that:

1- Michael never hated Sony. It was Mottola only or
2- Michael hated Sony too but later on he bought Sony too and kept it as a secret because there is a lot to come :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 23, 2009, 05:44:11 PM
About Matolla/Sony/-MJs' issue was mainly with Mattola who he called the devil. He made a statement that he only had one (if I remember right-might of been 2) records with them-then he would be a free agent and own like fifty percent of Sony,he also stated that Sony was not happy about that. I have found alot about the Sony conspiracy through Luna67s videos from youtube. My thinking is that they twisted around his contract in some way. His contract would have to be over in order for him to leave Sony. Another thing could be that he is actualy currently the owner  :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Mj5StarChick on December 24, 2009, 05:05:52 AM
Right when I was feeling down and that there was nothing else for me to look into thnx LiberianGirl this could be a BIG clue!!!! Your post has brought all the faith inside me out im always still gonna have the doubt in the back of my mind but this really is great once again I thank you with L.O.V.E LiberianGirl!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 24, 2009, 09:56:24 AM
Quote from: "Mj5StarChick"
Right when I was feeling down and that there was nothing else for me to look into thnx LiberianGirl this could be a BIG clue!!!! Your post has brought all the faith inside me out im always still gonna have the doubt in the back of my mind but this really is great once again I thank you with L.O.V.E LiberianGirl!!!!!!!

NP hon. I'm so glad if I could give faith to you :)

Sony is Michael's I think  :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: Mj5StarChick on December 24, 2009, 10:54:10 AM
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NP hon. I'm so glad if I could give faith to you
 AND THE BIG BOMB! Look what I found!!! Sony is Michael's! I think I need to make a new post for everyone to see it!
I read your new post and wow he owns Sony??? He sure does own a lot lols :P . Well with his money and power if I had it I would be owning Sony and more also lols
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: the arabian nights on December 24, 2009, 11:28:50 AM
Hi I have read on a number of threads that people had mentioned witness protection programmes, but is this only for people who witness a serious crime and have given evidence in court? Could someone explain this to me?
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LiberianGirl on December 25, 2009, 07:03:16 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Hi I have read on a number of threads that people had mentioned witness protection programmes, but is this only for people who witness a serious crime and have given evidence in court? Could someone explain this to me?

This program is also for the ones who get threats! :)
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: LOVEYOUMORE on January 02, 2010, 09:50:56 PM
Quote from: "princesspea"
Things have been so quiet for a while and then this. I seriously think this is a BIG clue guys.  
Oh and if Michael has ANY financial interest in TMZ then I think we pretty much have this all wrapped up! :lol:

When this is all over we all deserve a big pat on the back. We have never given up. :D
From what I hears , Michael owns TMZ.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: King_Michael on January 02, 2010, 11:07:45 PM
I might be wrong but Michael owns tmz with the sheikh from Bahrain or something like that im not sure lol
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: the arabian nights on January 17, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
most of the clues are historical now, and have been debated.

things are very serious now, well so far as potential proceedings are concerned, if they have sufficient evidence and cm didn't get mike to sign a waiver form.

some people may have alot to gain to perpetuate innuendo, be careful not to get sucked in.
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: NEFFERTEAREYA on January 17, 2010, 08:40:28 PM
i doubt very seriously that mikey owns sony.  i mean think about it,i'm almost certain that michael himself leaked the song 'another day'.  so...why would he leak it for only 24 hours or less and then pull it off the internet so quickly? it just doesn't make sense to me...or am i missing something? ;)  :?  :D
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: kelly wright on January 18, 2010, 09:24:47 AM
I hate to tell yall this but these files were released 2 or 3 weeks ago ,why TMZ just posted it today ,I don't know ,but ABC reported this long ago it is all over the internet .Just type MJ FBI files ,it is old news .
Title: Re: NEW CLUES!!!
Post by: PureLove on January 18, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Quote from: "kelly wright"
I hate to tell yall this but these files were released 2 or 3 weeks ago ,why TMZ just posted it today ,I don't know ,but ABC reported this long ago it is all over the internet .Just type MJ FBI files ,it is old news .

who said that TMZ posted the FBI files today? Look at the first post and when it was made. This post was made by Liberian Girl on the 22nd of December.
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