Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Whitesocks on December 22, 2009, 04:00:31 PM
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But Michael is hiding for the JIHAD (ectreme people)
no affence to "the " Mulslim" with a good heart....
I post this as a reminder for myself so i can give you the complete version tomorrow. no games..just reality.
Note: i grew up in a multi cultural environment...i KNOW what i am talkin about. NO-ONE dears to speak...well I DO.
Michael is hiding and better NOT being found....................this moment...
But he will be protected for sure
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:roll:
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Ugh why do we always have to wait 24 hrs???? See you tomorrow..
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Why do we always have to wait for the rest of your stories untill the next morning? Then post the complete story the next day!
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I'm sorry, but Michael is no Muslim, so what has he to do with the Jihad?
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but not today more
I'm tired, good night to all
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I don't know your story yet, but it already seems ridiculous to me.
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Ugh why do we always have to wait 24 hrs???? See you tomorrow..
WELL I AM NOT BITING MY TOES OFF YESTERDAY I DID MY NAILS THEN FINGERS I WILL HAVE NO MORE BODY PARTS LEFT AT THIS RATE :lol:
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Please explain why you think this?
I know Salmon Rushdie was on the muslim extremist hit list and was in hiding for his life for years but that was for writing the controversal book called Satanic verses so that was explainable (wrong as we all should have freedom of speech but nevertheless understandable) What could Michael have done as extreme as this to make you think he was in danger? It is possible as most anything is but there would have to be a good enough reason.
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So he's not Archangel Mikael anymore???? :shock: And he's not running away from NWO (which i presume has nothing to do with Islam anyho)???
sorry! sometimes it's just too hard to refrain! :P
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I come from a muslim family and let me get one thing straight, muslims and extremists are two very different people. Real muslims are good people. You cant put Jihad and other extremists in the same category, there are terrorists and extremists in every culture of the world. Michael had alot of muslim friends and his own brother Jermaine was also a muslim. Jihad has nothing to do with Michael's disappearence. This is ridiculous. All this islamophobia is really not necessary. There is no point in being afraid of muslims.
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I come from a muslim family and let me get one thing straight, muslims and extremists are two very different people. Real muslims are good people. You cant put Jihad and other extremists in the same category, there are terrorists and extremists in every culture of the world. Michael had alot of muslim friends and his own brother Jermaine was also a muslim. Jihad has nothing to do with Michael's disappearence. This is ridiculous. All this islamophobia is really not necessary. There is no point in being afraid of muslims.
Please lets not get into arguments about religion-there is enough of that in the world-all religions preach love and peace and then man fights over the very thing that preaches peace-religion! We are all kin on this site and there are good and bad in all walks of life and religions-please do not take this personally and wait to see what this member has to post as anything is possible in this mad world we are in now. The member was very respectful in the post so bear that in mind.
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So he's not Archangel Mikael anymore???? :shock: And he's not running away from NWO (which i presume has nothing to do with Islam anyho)???
sorry! sometimes it's just too hard to refrain! :P
;)
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The member was very respectful in the post so bear that in mind.
And so was I. I will believe this posters theory when he provides any kind of source information to back up his/hers claims. When people say ''no offence'' - thats is when I am offended.
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The member was very respectful in the post so bear that in mind.
And so was I. I will believe this posters theory when he provides any kind of source information to back up his/hers claims.
Thats ok. Lets just wait and see what member has to say. :)
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But I don't get it... Archangel, illuminati theory, now the Jihad... Everytime it's really IT.
I'm sorry maybe it's just too much for me.
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:roll:
:lol:
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And by the way..
Note: i grew up in a multi cultural environment...i KNOW what i am talkin about. NO-ONE dears to speak...well I DO.
I also grew up in a multicultural environment but I never surrounded myself by people practicing the laws of Jihad. You speak of Jihad as if you knew them personally. Since you dare to speak out, do share us everything you know about Jihad and why they would be looking for Michael Jackson. Thats all I want to know. And Im not being sarcastic, Im just asking since you seem to know what you're talking about.
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There are TOO many relgious freaks in the world. We are sure in no short supply. :?
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There are TOO many relgious freaks in the world. We are sure in no short supply. :?
True
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Well, let`s wait until tomorrow and see what the member is up to. Why not give it a true chance to listen - there might be sources, evidences or any other kind of clue.
Nighty night ... sleep well!
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Why on earth would Michael be in danger because of this suposed 'jihad'?
First of all you should look deeper in the meaning of 'jihad'. You will see it has nothing to do with violance, it's not even a group of people. It's about inner strugles.
I've noticed that you try to put alot of blame on the muslims regarding to Michael's hiding.
Me as a muslim myself do feel a little offended by this.
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I come from a muslim family and let me get one thing straight, muslims and extremists are two very different people. Real muslims are good people. You cant put Jihad and other extremists in the same category, there are terrorists and extremists in every culture of the world. Michael had alot of muslim friends and his own brother Jermaine was also a muslim. Jihad has nothing to do with Michael's disappearence. This is ridiculous. All this islamophobia is really not necessary. There is no point in being afraid of muslims.
Please lets not get into arguments about religion-there is enough of that in the world-all religions preach love and peace and then man fights over the very thing that preaches peace-religion! We are all kin on this site and there are good and bad in all walks of life and religions-please do not take this personally and wait to see what this member has to post as anything is possible in this mad world we are in now. The member was very respectful in the post so bear that in mind.
Yes... please stop...this is the LAST thing Michael would want. :!:
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I come from a muslim family and let me get one thing straight, muslims and extremists are two very different people. Real muslims are good people. You cant put Jihad and other extremists in the same category, there are terrorists and extremists in every culture of the world. Michael had alot of muslim friends and his own brother Jermaine was also a muslim. Jihad has nothing to do with Michael's disappearence. This is ridiculous. All this islamophobia is really not necessary. There is no point in being afraid of muslims.
Please lets not get into arguments about religion-there is enough of that in the world-all religions preach love and peace and then man fights over the very thing that preaches peace-religion! We are all kin on this site and there are good and bad in all walks of life and religions-please do not take this personally and wait to see what this member has to post as anything is possible in this mad world we are in now. The member was very respectful in the post so bear that in mind.
True-the poster did say "no offense to the muslims with a good heart"
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So he's not Archangel Mikael anymore???? :shock:
:lol:
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2012 is not mentioned in the Islam...what happend have to be a secret..only God knows what will happen.
First of all. I don't want to offend anyone who is reading this. Because i am talking about the terrorists, the bad people who claims to be muslim and attacking people out of the name of Allah.
We all see what's happening since Bush became president ( 9/11 ) and the terror began. (the hoax began with the 911 call remember?). Soldiers were send to Irak and the search for Sadam Hoessein began. Sadam was killed wich was very stupid to do..because he is a saint now in the eyes of the extreme groups. (A friend Muslim told me so). But i can't translate very well what i want to say.
The bad groups (terrorists and extreme groups) repetedly sais: Islam wil rule the world. Thats how i came to the idea, maybe this is als ment by NWO or is a part of it. Illuminaty is also part of it. (imo).
I we come to the subject freedom... in the Islamitic countries there is no freedom, people are openly executed (especially women) and even children. Throwing stones to death, kicking people to dead in public while a whole crowd is yelling and cheering..We all know what happenes there !!! And if the Gouvernement allows these things happening, what can do the same Gouvernement with a nuclear bomb.
Everyone knows Michael studied Islam and lived in Bahrein for a few years. Jermaine has a house there and Thome Thome was introduced by Jermaine. Michael was afraid of Thome..why.. Thome wanted to control his complete life. According the accusations against Thome (deathtreats, fraude) we could imply Thome wasn't a good and loving Muslim.
What if he wanted to force Michael to be on his side, he could use Michael's power perfectly. What if Michael refused. Many Islamitics thought Michael became a Muslim.
What if they (bad guys) felt offended in some kind of way and startet to threaten him.
Michael shows a lot of symbols wich contains power, love, freedom. So what Archangel Michael has to do with it?? Well Archangel Michael is in all religions discruibed. So it will be understood as it's all for love.
I wouldn't surprise me if jihad is behind this and Michael had to cancel his concerts because he was affraid for terror attacks.
I hope i can make myself clear and i hope no one feeld offended because i only think along about the answers and i just share my thoughts with you all. And i do have Muslim friends and they are also afraid for the bad guys who are killing in the name of allah. Because it makes the good Muslims scapegoats.
I just wanted to mention it as it hasn't mentioned yet...people are afraid to talk about it.
A few links wich might have your interest
The Danger Within: Militant Islam in America
http://www.danielpipes.org/77/the-dange ... in-america (http://www.danielpipes.org/77/the-danger-within-militant-islam-in-america)
Explenations Koran
http://2012-predictions-review.blogspot ... islam.html (http://2012-predictions-review.blogspot.com/2008/05/muslims-and-islam.html)
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Well im glad you came back with your post however i am NOT A FAN of people posting something and then explaining the FOLLOWING day.. It causes unnessarsary problems and stress on the board.. It makes people angry and honestly it is quite selfish to not take peoples feelings into account . .. So please and this is to Everybody not just the OP ... Please in future can we post our "Revelations" in full as we know them and not with 24hrs apart????
This is just my opinion because if you look at page 1 you will see the response is not good when these things happen...
But again thanks for your post but i do not believe MJ is anyhthing to do with this.
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ok Whitesocks, of course its possible that some bad guys are offended because Michael refused to convert to the Islam and its possible that they threaten him so he has to escape.
But there isn't a proof anywhere? It's just a possibility, right?
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Please in future can we post our "Revelations" in full as we know them and not with 24hrs apart????
I'm totally agree with you! Thanks for posting :)
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Please in future can we post our "Revelations" in full as we know them and not with 24hrs apart????
I'm totally agree with you! Thanks for posting :)
Yes sorrie, :oops:
I think i'm getting exhausted with all the thinking.
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ok Whitesocks, of course its possible that some bad guys are offended because Michael refused to convert to the Islam and its possible that they threaten him so he has to escape.
But there isn't a proof anywhere? It's just a possibility, right?
We have no proof what is really going on. Nor do we have solid proof Michael is alive.
We are all here because we have serious doubts and we are all working on a big puzzle. I think what i have mentioned is a piece of the puzzle and i want to share these thoughts.
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We have no proof what is really going on. Nor do we have solid proof Michael is alive.
We are all here because we have serious doubts and we are all working on a big puzzle. I think what i have mentioned is a piece of the puzzle and i want to share these thoughts.
hey, of course - sorry, don't get me wrong :)
I just wanted to know if there are hints or more informations for this supposition. Please share your thougts furthermore!!
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With all due respect I am a little disappointed with this post. It is all hearsay and just sounds to me wild ramblings. I think Michael has or had more power, protection and sense to get into a dangerous position with fundamental extremists as you have suggested. Also Jermaine is muslim but he is his Brother and although Jermaine can be a bit of a twit (to say the least!) to suggest that Michael was in danger from islamic extremists and saying as his Brother is Muslim hold some clout in this assumption is far fetched. As for Thome Thome- I could be wrong but I think he MAY (am not saying he is guys!) be in on the hoax. He has been photographed with Jermaine recently a lot and Michael made it very public knowledge about the sacking and falling out with him. As I said I am not sure for this but to suggest Michael was in danger from the jihad-well!!!........and with no substantial proof???? He was an entertainer, a pacifist, not some leader of a far eastern Arab country in conflict. Indeed it wouldn't surprise me if the extermists deep down perhaps held a little respect for him. Everyone loves music-even the bad guys!
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BTW, we don´t really know if he is a muslim or not. Cause he never denied it and he never said what belief he said. He only said he believes in God. And I don´t care about what his brothers say.
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Strong limitations to our search for truth are the techniques, structures, contents and availabilities of information dwelling in the web.
This implies that we search truth outside of us.
This implies that we seek external prop.
This implies that we are feeling weak inside.
These three are giving a perfect ground for the seeds of doubt, fear, disbelief, suspicion, accusal, mobbing, betrayal, aggression and war.
This is the perfect ground for tabloids, spuring individuals, falsifying media, swearing preachers, blind, deaf and dumb passive followers and active members.
The label does not matter at all - whether it is NWO, Illuminati, Capitalism, Socialism, Jihad, liberation fight, dictatorship, III Reich, depopulation, racism, territorial conflicts, ressources' duels, atomic threatening, bioterrorism, international terrorism, whatever you like to add.
Whenever we are giving ourselves up and away to the outside, whenever we are not developping internal love, self-confidence, decisive strength and positive will, we are giving power to others and allow them to rule our lives from birth to death and beyond.
The answers are cristal clear and you know them already.
Go and do something about it - change yourself, the only person you can change.
Don't complain about others and what others do to you and how others threaten you and how others treat you. If you don't treat yourself nice what do you expect others to do with you?
It does not matter at all how much we speculate about if MJ was in danger or who was threatening him.
I think it is a shame that we don't trust Michael enough that he did the right things in his life. I think it is a shame we don't love him enough to let him go and be and take his time.
I think it is a shame we blame this and that and all and nothing for his disappearance but not think one second that this was HIS PURPOSE and HIS FREE WILL with a loving heart to do us more good than we ever thought he would want for us.
Whatever you like to believe was an outside initial impact to what happened - the truth contains 360° and not only 1°.
The truth is living inside of you and is not about external war.
This striving for truth is unlimited and an unbelievable miraculous adventure.
Learn
discOver
inVestigate
determinE
Sending you lots of sunbeams and raindrops.
Enjoy yourself on this journey - there's no reason not to.
L.O.V.E.
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Oh god... Here I go again and no, Im not looking for trouble. I just want to explain a few things. There are approximately 50 countries that are mainly based on the faith of islam and the countries you see on television have been narrated down to approximately 4 (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Somalia: countries with lots of trouble and corruption). To suggest that all countries have no freedom, have terrorism problems and stoning laws is not right. A country being corrupt has little do to with its religion and more to do with its political leaders and dictatorship. About 5 countries out of these 50 practice the laws of stoning as punishment. In all other countries, its uncommon or practically non existant. Muslim countries are not the only ones who practice death-penalties as you might already know (and let me just say I am totally againts war and extremists and death penalties). But you say you dont want to offend people but thats exactly what you are doing. You are putting everything in the same category. Extremists is one thing and religious countries another. Just because Thome Thome happens to be a bad guy has nothing to do with where he comes from or what country he comes from. There have been bad people in Michaels life before he went to Bahrain also.
Have you ever been or lived in a muslim country? I have. And the country Ive been at has little in common with war conflicted muslim countries. Not all of them are conflicted with war and corruption like we see with Iraq.
Its really ignorant to say that George Bush went to Afghanistan or Iraq to end terror. I actually think that was the last thing on his mind. (Oil?) And it only made things worse for this world. George Bush did more harm than good in my opinion and due to the ongoing wars more children and women AND SOLDIERS were killed than any form of extremists terrorists. Did he find Usama Bin Laden? No. But he managed to kill lots of americans, iraqi children and other civilans.
I have a friend who came as a refugee from Iran and she's lived where I live for 2 years now and the problems in her country have more to do with corrupt politics than tradition and religion, her friend who was a male age 23 was tortured 2 weeks ago by police men because he demonstrated a second time in the green revolution to the point where when he was released he committed suicide due to the things he endured. This had nothing to do with religion. But corruption and power.
Lets look at Burma... A country that is based on buddism and munks. They suffer severe corruption and the people are under immense pressure and depression, killings occur on regular basis but these countries do not get peoples attention because their regime is not based on islam.
I also have a friend who is a refugee from Iraq who's seen dead bodies on the street for several years at a time and let me tell you one thing.... They do not worship Saddam Hussein or see him as a saint, Saddams Power had nothing to do with islam, he was a dictator and mentally ill. Also, when the war started in Iraq, it made people feel more hopeless than ever before and suicide mass killings increased because of the war. People felt like there was no hope left. And thats why they increased. There are extremists everywhere, take nazis for example who worship the dead Adolf Hitler. This thread is more about preaching islamophobia in my opinion and it has nothing to do with Michael Jackson.
I think also Michael Jackson is the last person Jihad is looking for. And Michael studied all forms of religion, he wanted to connect with every corner of the world. Jehovas Witnesses, Christianity, Judism, Islam and other forms of faith. Michael wanted knowledge about everything in this world. Not just islam.
If we continue to think ''its us againts them'' then our world will never heal. We need to join together as a world and set all these mindsets aside for a while and think We are the world. There is no-us-againts-them. This mentality is damaging and only increases peoples fears of other cultures. We need to stop looking at ourselves like one country against another country. We are all from the same planet. Michaels message was about breaking barriers and connecting to the world outside of your own and getting to know people from all religions and countries. Please dont close that door on Michaels message of love and unity. Fear isnt going to solve anyhing.
Ok Im done now. Im not going to bother replying anymore to this thread.
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This thread is more about preaching islamophobia in my opinion and it has nothing to do with Michael Jackson.
I think also Michael Jackson is the last person Jihad is looking for. And Michael studied all forms of religion, he wanted to connect with every corner of the world. Jehovas Witnesses, Christianity, Judism, Islam and other forms of faith. Michael wanted knowledge about everything in this world. Not just islam.
Ok Im done now. Im not going to bother replying anymore to this thread.
Thank you.
I have been to an islamic country, too, and met the most warm welcoming people there suffering more from corruption and clan protection than from any other thing.
They were the most tolerant persons I met in my life.
L.O.V.E.
Grace
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more people should be like Michael. He wanted to just connect the whole world. <3 When some people think about Islam, they think about terrorists. But that's not true! That is so stupid... Islam is just the same as Christianity, Judaism and stuff...
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I don't think we shoud disregard this theory!
http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009 ... tion-case/ (http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/22/fbi-helped-authorities-in-jackson-molestation-case/)
"–The Santa Maria Police Department was worried that Jackson’s April 30, 2004, arraignment could provide a target for terrorists."
Michael...L.O.V.E.* December 22nd, 2009 10:08 pm ET
@ Shaun
There is a lot of significance. Among the significant things that are revealed is the possibility that the FBI and authorities helped me this time due to a terrorist threat at my upcoming concerts. All will be revealed in time. I love you more.
and then this: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14053258?source=rss (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14053258?source=rss)
The FBI concluded there were no threats but did note the presence in an early court appearance of "The Nation of Islam, represented by its security unit Fruits of Islam," and of a New Black Panther Party member whose name was left blank in the files.
Jackson used Nation of Islam bodyguards during the legal proceedings.
Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14053258?s ... z0aVsv94Oz (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14053258?source=rss#ixzz0aVsv94Oz)
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/12/ ... cnn_latest (http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/12/22/michael.jackson.fbi/index.html?section=cnn_latest)
The files also include notes from the FBI's investigation of a man who sent letters threatening to kill Jackson and President George H.W. Bush in 1992. The man pleaded guilty and was sent to a federal prison, the FBI said.
So, we should look more into this!
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I'm sorry, but I don't think you're looking in the right direction. IMO it's too farfetched.
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BTW, we don´t really know if he is a muslim or not. :oops: sorry wrong post
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If we continue to think ''its us againts them'' then our world will never heal. We need to join together as a world and set all these mindsets aside for a while and think We are the world. There is no-us-againts-them. This mentality is damaging and only increases peoples fears of other cultures. We need to stop looking at ourselves like one country against another country. We are all from the same planet. Michaels message was about breaking barriers and connecting to the world outside of your own and getting to know people from all religions and countries. Please dont close that door on Michaels message of love and unity. Fear isnt going to solve anyhing.
Love what you said here!! :mrgreen:
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Whitesocks,Were not you in brief about the opinion Archangel Michael?
Well then, these contributions?
I do not quite understand
I ask only because it makes me confused ......
Which theory now?
I tell with love
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Go to the timeout corner...NOW! :lol:
So he's not Archangel Mikael anymore???? :shock: And he's not running away from NWO (which i presume has nothing to do with Islam anyho)???
sorry! sometimes it's just too hard to refrain! :P
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2012 is not mentioned in the Islam...what happend have to be a secret..only God knows what will happen.
First of all. I don't want to offend anyone who is reading this. Because i am talking about the terrorists, the bad people who claims to be muslim and attacking people out of the name of Allah.
We all see what's happening since Bush became president ( 9/11 ) and the terror began. (the hoax began with the 911 call remember?). Soldiers were send to Irak and the search for Sadam Hoessein began. Sadam was killed wich was very stupid to do..because he is a saint now in the eyes of the extreme groups. (A friend Muslim told me so). But i can't translate very well what i want to say.
The bad groups (terrorists and extreme groups) repetedly sais: Islam wil rule the world. Thats how i came to the idea, maybe this is als ment by NWO or is a part of it. Illuminaty is also part of it. (imo).
I we come to the subject freedom... in the Islamitic countries there is no freedom, people are openly executed (especially women) and even children. Throwing stones to death, kicking people to dead in public while a whole crowd is yelling and cheering..We all know what happenes there !!! And if the Gouvernement allows these things happening, what can do the same Gouvernement with a nuclear bomb.
Everyone knows Michael studied Islam and lived in Bahrein for a few years. Jermaine has a house there and Thome Thome was introduced by Jermaine. Michael was afraid of Thome..why.. Thome wanted to control his complete life. According the accusations against Thome (deathtreats, fraude) we could imply Thome wasn't a good and loving Muslim.
What if he wanted to force Michael to be on his side, he could use Michael's power perfectly. What if Michael refused. Many Islamitics thought Michael became a Muslim.
What if they (bad guys) felt offended in some kind of way and startet to threaten him.
Michael shows a lot of symbols wich contains power, love, freedom. So what Archangel Michael has to do with it?? Well Archangel Michael is in all religions discruibed. So it will be understood as it's all for love.
I wouldn't surprise me if jihad is behind this and Michael had to cancel his concerts because he was affraid for terror attacks.
I hope i can make myself clear and i hope no one feeld offended because i only think along about the answers and i just share my thoughts with you all. And i do have Muslim friends and they are also afraid for the bad guys who are killing in the name of allah. Because it makes the good Muslims scapegoats.
I just wanted to mention it as it hasn't mentioned yet...people are afraid to talk about it.
A few links wich might have your interest
The Danger Within: Militant Islam in America
http://www.danielpipes.org/77/the-dange ... in-america (http://www.danielpipes.org/77/the-danger-within-militant-islam-in-america)
Explenations Koran
http://2012-predictions-review.blogspot ... islam.html (http://2012-predictions-review.blogspot.com/2008/05/muslims-and-islam.html)
Take a look at what Michael...L.O.V.E posted on the LK blog last night!
*Michael...L.O.V.E.* December 22nd, 2009 10:08 pm ET
@ Shaun
There is a lot of significance. Among the significant things that are revealed is the possibility that the FBI and authorities helped me this time due to a terrorist threat at my upcoming concerts. All will be revealed in time. I love you more.
It's interesting that Michael L.O.V.E posted the same thing you did, before you mentioned it.I don't know if it means anything, or means that Michael...L.O.V.E is MJ, just wanted to share it. ;)
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Oh god... Here I go again and no, Im not looking for trouble. I just want to explain a few things. There are approximately 50 countries that are mainly based on the faith of islam and the countries you see on television have been narrated down to approximately 4 (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Somalia: countries with lots of trouble and corruption). To suggest that all countries have no freedom, have terrorism problems and stoning laws is not right. A country being corrupt has little do to with its religion and more to do with its political leaders and dictatorship. About 5 countries out of these 50 practice the laws of stoning as punishment. In all other countries, its uncommon or practically non existant. Muslim countries are not the only ones who practice death-penalties as you might already know (and let me just say I am totally againts war and extremists and death penalties). But you say you dont want to offend people but thats exactly what you are doing. You are putting everything in the same category. Extremists is one thing and religious countries another. Just because Thome Thome happens to be a bad guy has nothing to do with where he comes from or what country he comes from. There have been bad people in Michaels life before he went to Bahrain also.
Have you ever been or lived in a muslim country? I have. And the country Ive been at has little in common with war conflicted muslim countries. Not all of them are conflicted with war and corruption like we see with Iraq.
Its really ignorant to say that George Bush went to Afghanistan or Iraq to end terror. I actually think that was the last thing on his mind. (Oil?) And it only made things worse for this world. George Bush did more harm than good in my opinion and due to the ongoing wars more children and women AND SOLDIERS were killed than any form of extremists terrorists. Did he find Usama Bin Laden? No. But he managed to kill lots of americans, iraqi children and other civilans.
I have a friend who came as a refugee from Iran and she's lived where I live for 2 years now and the problems in her country have more to do with corrupt politics than tradition and religion, her friend who was a male age 23 was tortured 2 weeks ago by police men because he demonstrated a second time in the green revolution to the point where when he was released he committed suicide due to the things he endured. This had nothing to do with religion. But corruption and power.
Lets look at Burma... A country that is based on buddism and munks. They suffer severe corruption and the people are under immense pressure and depression, killings occur on regular basis but these countries do not get peoples attention because their regime is not based on islam.
I also have a friend who is a refugee from Iraq who's seen dead bodies on the street for several years at a time and let me tell you one thing.... They do not worship Saddam Hussein or see him as a saint, Saddams Power had nothing to do with islam, he was a dictator and mentally ill. Also, when the war started in Iraq, it made people feel more hopeless than ever before and suicide mass killings increased because of the war. People felt like there was no hope left. And thats why they increased. There are extremists everywhere, take nazis for example who worship the dead Adolf Hitler. This thread is more about preaching islamophobia in my opinion and it has nothing to do with Michael Jackson.
I think also Michael Jackson is the last person Jihad is looking for. And Michael studied all forms of religion, he wanted to connect with every corner of the world. Jehovas Witnesses, Christianity, Judism, Islam and other forms of faith. Michael wanted knowledge about everything in this world. Not just islam.
If we continue to think ''its us againts them'' then our world will never heal. We need to join together as a world and set all these mindsets aside for a while and think We are the world. There is no-us-againts-them. This mentality is damaging and only increases peoples fears of other cultures. We need to stop looking at ourselves like one country against another country. We are all from the same planet. Michaels message was about breaking barriers and connecting to the world outside of your own and getting to know people from all religions and countries. Please dont close that door on Michaels message of love and unity. Fear isnt going to solve anyhing.
Ok Im done now. Im not going to bother replying anymore to this thread.
2nd everything here especially the large bolded.
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Go to the timeout corner...NOW! :lol:
So he's not Archangel Mikael anymore???? :shock: And he's not running away from NWO (which i presume has nothing to do with Islam anyho)???
sorry! sometimes it's just too hard to refrain! :P
LOL
That could be a great name for a new thread in the current situation: TIME-OUT CORNER :lol:
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Strong limitations to our search for truth are the techniques, structures, contents and availabilities of information dwelling in the web.
This implies that we search truth outside of us.
This implies that we seek external prop.
This implies that we are feeling weak inside.
These three are giving a perfect ground for the seeds of doubt, fear, disbelief, suspicion, accusal, mobbing, betrayal, aggression and war.
This is the perfect ground for tabloids, spuring individuals, falsifying media, swearing preachers, blind, deaf and dumb passive followers and active members.
The label does not matter at all - whether it is NWO, Illuminati, Capitalism, Socialism, Jihad, liberation fight, dictatorship, III Reich, depopulation, racism, territorial conflicts, ressources' duels, atomic threatening, bioterrorism, international terrorism, whatever you like to add.
Whenever we are giving ourselves up and away to the outside, whenever we are not developping internal love, self-confidence, decisive strength and positive will, we are giving power to others and allow them to rule our lives from birth to death and beyond.
The answers are cristal clear and you know them already.
Go and do something about it - change yourself, the only person you can change.
Don't complain about others and what others do to you and how others threaten you and how others treat you. If you don't treat yourself nice what do you expect others to do with you?
It does not matter at all how much we speculate about if MJ was in danger or who was threatening him.
I think it is a shame that we don't trust Michael enough that he did the right things in his life. I think it is a shame we don't love him enough to let him go and be and take his time.
I think it is a shame we blame this and that and all and nothing for his disappearance but not think one second that this was HIS PURPOSE and HIS FREE WILL with a loving heart to do us more good than we ever thought he would want for us.
Whatever you like to believe was an outside initial impact to what happened - the truth contains 360° and not only 1°.
The truth is living inside of you and is not about external war.
This striving for truth is unlimited and an unbelievable miraculous adventure.
Learn
discOver
inVestigate
determinE
Sending you lots of sunbeams and raindrops.
Enjoy yourself on this journey - there's no reason not to.
L.O.V.E.
Well..the message is love..and i start with myself. i am a very caring person.. But i will speak out my opinion i i feel i need to..Michael did..
Martin Luther Kind did..John F Kennedy did...Princes Diana did...and further on. It seems to be very dangerous to talk about your worries...as you can see how they ended.
I am loving and i am hurt if i see the horrable things that happens in the world..reality.
You can love, but you also can make a start by really doing something.
Not just watch the circus and think..well I LOVE everyone..because i simply DON"T. I cannot ove a person who harmes an other person (or animal)..
Everything you've mentioned is REALITY. And what can we do about it to make it change. NOT by just look and watch.
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And have you seen the new reveal of "Jonellstar" where Michael says..i am in kingdom of heaven?
It doesn't mean i am in heaven !!! It has a different meaning !!!
[YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/v/ACL3KjM4xC8&hl=nl_NL&fs=1%22%3E[/YouTube]
Check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Heaven_(film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Heaven_(film))
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And have you seen the new reveal of "Jonellstar" where Michael says..i am in kingdom of heaven?
It doesn't mean i am in heaven !!! It has a different meaning !!!
[YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/v/ACL3KjM4xC8&hl=nl_NL&fs=1%22%3E[/YouTube]
Check it out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Heaven_(film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Heaven_(film))
how did jonellstar come out of this? i'm subscribed to her and she hasn't posted anything in over a month. or am i missing something?
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Oh god... Here I go again and no, Im not looking for trouble. I just want to explain a few things. There are approximately 50 countries that are mainly based on the faith of islam and the countries you see on television have been narrated down to approximately 4 (Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Somalia: countries with lots of trouble and corruption). To suggest that all countries have no freedom, have terrorism problems and stoning laws is not right. A country being corrupt has little do to with its religion and more to do with its political leaders and dictatorship. About 5 countries out of these 50 practice the laws of stoning as punishment. In all other countries, its uncommon or practically non existant. Muslim countries are not the only ones who practice death-penalties as you might already know (and let me just say I am totally againts war and extremists and death penalties). But you say you dont want to offend people but thats exactly what you are doing. You are putting everything in the same category. Extremists is one thing and religious countries another. Just because Thome Thome happens to be a bad guy has nothing to do with where he comes from or what country he comes from. There have been bad people in Michaels life before he went to Bahrain also.
Have you ever been or lived in a muslim country? I have. And the country Ive been at has little in common with war conflicted muslim countries. Not all of them are conflicted with war and corruption like we see with Iraq.
Its really ignorant to say that George Bush went to Afghanistan or Iraq to end terror. I actually think that was the last thing on his mind. (Oil?) And it only made things worse for this world. George Bush did more harm than good in my opinion and due to the ongoing wars more children and women AND SOLDIERS were killed than any form of extremists terrorists. Did he find Usama Bin Laden? No. But he managed to kill lots of americans, iraqi children and other civilans.
I have a friend who came as a refugee from Iran and she's lived where I live for 2 years now and the problems in her country have more to do with corrupt politics than tradition and religion, her friend who was a male age 23 was tortured 2 weeks ago by police men because he demonstrated a second time in the green revolution to the point where when he was released he committed suicide due to the things he endured. This had nothing to do with religion. But corruption and power.
Lets look at Burma... A country that is based on buddism and munks. They suffer severe corruption and the people are under immense pressure and depression, killings occur on regular basis but these countries do not get peoples attention because their regime is not based on islam.
I also have a friend who is a refugee from Iraq who's seen dead bodies on the street for several years at a time and let me tell you one thing.... They do not worship Saddam Hussein or see him as a saint, Saddams Power had nothing to do with islam, he was a dictator and mentally ill. Also, when the war started in Iraq, it made people feel more hopeless than ever before and suicide mass killings increased because of the war. People felt like there was no hope left. And thats why they increased. There are extremists everywhere, take nazis for example who worship the dead Adolf Hitler. This thread is more about preaching islamophobia in my opinion and it has nothing to do with Michael Jackson.
I think also Michael Jackson is the last person Jihad is looking for. And Michael studied all forms of religion, he wanted to connect with every corner of the world. Jehovas Witnesses, Christianity, Judism, Islam and other forms of faith. Michael wanted knowledge about everything in this world. Not just islam.
If we continue to think ''its us againts them'' then our world will never heal. We need to join together as a world and set all these mindsets aside for a while and think We are the world. There is no-us-againts-them. This mentality is damaging and only increases peoples fears of other cultures. We need to stop looking at ourselves like one country against another country. We are all from the same planet. Michaels message was about breaking barriers and connecting to the world outside of your own and getting to know people from all religions and countries. Please dont close that door on Michaels message of love and unity. Fear isnt going to solve anyhing.[/b]
Ok Im done now. Im not going to bother replying anymore to this thread.
For my experience always has to be "the other": to keep it under the thumb, to differentiate, to have it and be more than it can be. Are constructed many speeches and images to make people believe that that is necessary, justified and right, is what to do, feel and think. The history of man. The story that the most powerful build, what they think the world should be, of course should be like they.
"If history is written by those who win it means that there is another history, the real history, who wants to hear let him hear."
To me this does not offend me, that people believe in it, I mean, the lies, I offend the purposes for which "they" want to make believe in it. Divide and conquer.
I love your last paragraph. And I wish that become in a reality, for the good of all. Its enough for me.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS to all of you!
Don`t forget that Muslims do appreciate and respect Jesus as well and today we are celebrating LOVE and PEACE ON EARTH .... :)
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MERRY CHRISTMAS to all of you!
Don`t forget that Muslims do appreciate and respect Jesus as well and today we are celebrating LOVE and PEACE ON EARTH .... :)
That's right !!
I gues i'm misunderstood again according the posts above. never mind.. Merry Christmas to you all with your family. !!!
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well im reading this post and i think i need to say something ..
i must explain ..
when you heard "JIHAD" maybe you thinks about terorism ...
but when you know what's the meaning of JIHAD ..
that's definitely not it ....
and when im reading "Michael is hiding from JIHAD"
oh God ...
Extreamist said JIHAD and killed thousand people .. like 9/11 or Bali Bomb I & II or the others ..
don't say they're JIHAD .. im serious ..
that's their theory .....definitely not Islam ..
i live in biggest muslim country, im studying Islam .. and i am a muslim
i know what's Al-Quran said about Jihad, the definitions of Jihad ... what is Jihad
terorism definitely not JIHAD ..
when you hate what they've done .. hate them .. not the Muslims, not Islam ..
about Michael and Islam .. well i think we can't discuss it ..
because it's definitely not our bussiness ... Only Michael and God whe really know it .
thanks for everybody who understand about Jihad, Islam and Terrorism ...
when you have something to ask, just ask ...
and
MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL .... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Some truth.. some not.
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If you can't even tell the difference between Arabs and Muslims then there is probably a lot more wrong with your theory. Thome Thome is probably a Lebanese Christian. So how can he be a good or bad Muslim? :?
Anyway..The rest of your theory is factless scare tactic nonsens. We've been hearing these things for years now. There are 1 billion Muslims in the world..some of them are old..some young..some live in war torn countries..some are well off. Some are educated..some are not. Some speak Arabic..some not. Some are black..some are white..There is not just 1 muslim. You're also using phrases and ideas that you've obviously just learned about and use in a very one dimensional way without any knowlegde. Fine by me. Just sad that some people will read what you write and as they probably don't know much about it either will take it as food for thought. When in reality..much ado about nothing.
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Could we suggest that each of us is in a constant process of learning?
Could we further suggest that later stati of consciousness would correct what we thought before?
And could we draw conclusions from this?
And if we came up with some result from our reflections that we are free to correct previous assumptions?
I would like to invite everybody in this place to share their insights with all others so that nobody misses the chance of getting acquainted to the unknown.
I would love to learn from jewish traditions and beliefs.
I know about christian traditions and beliefs and I was blessed to have learned some about hindu, buddhist and muslim traditions and beliefs.
So I am not capable to speak up in any way about what jews are thinking, believing and living.
I would love to know. Who knows about it - could you please tell me via PM?
Thank you so much.
L.O.V.E.
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2012 is not mentioned in the Islam...what happend have to be a secret..only God knows what will happen.
First of all. I don't want to offend anyone who is reading this. Because i am talking about the terrorists, the bad people who claims to be muslim and attacking people out of the name of Allah.
We all see what's happening since Bush became president ( 9/11 ) and the terror began. (the hoax began with the 911 call remember?). Soldiers were send to Irak and the search for Sadam Hoessein began. Sadam was killed wich was very stupid to do..because he is a saint now in the eyes of the extreme groups. (A friend Muslim told me so). But i can't translate very well what i want to say.
The bad groups (terrorists and extreme groups) repetedly sais: Islam wil rule the world. Thats how i came to the idea, maybe this is als ment by NWO or is a part of it. Illuminaty is also part of it. (imo).
I we come to the subject freedom... in the Islamitic countries there is no freedom, people are openly executed (especially women) and even children. Throwing stones to death, kicking people to dead in public while a whole crowd is yelling and cheering..We all know what happenes there !!! And if the Gouvernement allows these things happening, what can do the same Gouvernement with a nuclear bomb.
Everyone knows Michael studied Islam and lived in Bahrein for a few years. Jermaine has a house there and Thome Thome was introduced by Jermaine. Michael was afraid of Thome..why.. Thome wanted to control his complete life. According the accusations against Thome (deathtreats, fraude) we could imply Thome wasn't a good and loving Muslim.
What if he wanted to force Michael to be on his side, he could use Michael's power perfectly. What if Michael refused. Many Islamitics thought Michael became a Muslim.
What if they (bad guys) felt offended in some kind of way and startet to threaten him.
Michael shows a lot of symbols wich contains power, love, freedom. So what Archangel Michael has to do with it?? Well Archangel Michael is in all religions discruibed. So it will be understood as it's all for love.
I wouldn't surprise me if jihad is behind this and Michael had to cancel his concerts because he was affraid for terror attacks.
I hope i can make myself clear and i hope no one feeld offended because i only think along about the answers and i just share my thoughts with you all. And i do have Muslim friends and they are also afraid for the bad guys who are killing in the name of allah. Because it makes the good Muslims scapegoats.
I just wanted to mention it as it hasn't mentioned yet...people are afraid to talk about it.
A few links wich might have your interest
The Danger Within: Militant Islam in America
http://www.danielpipes.org/77/the-dange ... in-america (http://www.danielpipes.org/77/the-danger-within-militant-islam-in-america)
Explenations Koran
http://2012-predictions-review.blogspot ... islam.html (http://2012-predictions-review.blogspot.com/2008/05/muslims-and-islam.html)
Take a look at what Michael...L.O.V.E posted on the LK blog last night!
*Michael...L.O.V.E.* December 22nd, 2009 10:08 pm ET
@ Shaun
There is a lot of significance. Among the significant things that are revealed is the possibility that the FBI and authorities helped me this time due to a terrorist threat at my upcoming concerts. All will be revealed in time. I love you more.
It's interesting that Michael L.O.V.E posted the same thing you did, before you mentioned it.I don't know if it means anything, or means that Michael...L.O.V.E is MJ, just wanted to share it. ;)
Or, that Whitesocks and L.O.V.E...Michael are the same person
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:lol: no we are not the same person.
And i don't have just 1 theorie, my mind is still hopping and jumping to other thoughts. :lol: