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Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: misha86 on November 24, 2009, 10:15:14 PM

Title: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: misha86 on November 24, 2009, 10:15:14 PM
I dont know if any of you follow TNZ but They have really really good blogs. There raw and uncut and have a sense of humor also..they posted there latest blog and i wanted to know how you guys interprete the message. I have never heard about this letter or the video so im speaking only of the letter itself and the title of the blog. This is what i got from it:

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuse ... =519765731 (http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=494981275&blogId=519765731)

if you look at the letter there are some words that are bold and some in lower case, IMO the bold is what we need to read...i.e. the truth is "spread" between the lines. this is what it says ONLY in bold. What do you guys think? Am I on to something or reaching...lol

[i]I have nothing to gain or lose,


There are so many speculations and plain contradictions.
 
I Love my children so very, very much, they are aware of the situation,

yes you did see me at Universal Studios.

 many sightings of me are false.

 
Dr Conrad Murray will not be charged with a homicide

Without Kenny Ortega and Randy Phillips' help, I wouldn't have managed this.

You will know more in due course.



Body doubles have been used.

.

This Is It song was written by me. Anka and me had a plan.

Sony are not as bad as you may think, I wouldn't allow that. The new slogan has been done for a purpose.



The video I uploaded was me,  planned to see how things can be interpreted

now I know some of you clearly do not know me, but say you are fans. I feel slightly let down and hurt by this.

whether I attended my Press Conference in London, March ,I did attend.


The ambulance picture was not real,I'm sure most of you realize this.


In regards to the RTL coroners van video, some parts were real.

"I'm alive and I'm here Forever"


Liberian Girl is very significant.

Don't close your mind. Please keep an open mind.


In my Movie, the Gilda scene was  intentionally meant to be a clue,


we need to stop all wrong-doings in this world and help to Love one another more and to show each other support, before it's too late.

Some rehearsals date back, quit far

 Please don't hate me for what I have done.

I just wish you would have Believed in me.

the time will come





The comeback will be Great.

An adventure.

Love always and Forever with the L.O.V.E.[/i]
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: yaya on November 24, 2009, 10:23:19 PM
which video is he talking about that he uploaded? and i'm not sure i understand what he means when he says people don't know him but say they are fans, and that hurts him.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: misha86 on November 24, 2009, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: "yaya"
which video is he talking about that he uploaded? and i'm not sure i understand what he means when he says people don't know him but say they are fans, and that hurts him.

idk what video either...

idk what he means by people dont know him and it hurts...BUT IMO he watches these boards and i think people say things like " mike wouldnt do this, mike wouldnt do that" when infact he has and that hurts him cause people act like he cant do anything wrong...and possibly wont like him if/when we find out the truth..but thats just my opinion
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: yaya on November 24, 2009, 10:33:17 PM
ohhh, i see...that definitely makes sense. i do know some believers who will in fact be hurt cuz they have the mind set of things he would and wouldn't do. but we can't blame him or hold a grudge against him for anything...i think it's past time for him to do what's best for him.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: misha86 on November 24, 2009, 10:45:36 PM
Quote from: "yaya"
ohhh, i see...that definitely makes sense. i do know some believers who will in fact be hurt cuz they have the mind set of things he would and wouldn't do. but we can't blame him or hold a grudge against him for anything...i think it's past time for him to do what's best for him.

i agree..
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on November 24, 2009, 11:07:58 PM
Quote from: "misha86"
Quote from: "yaya"
which video is he talking about that he uploaded? and i'm not sure i understand what he means when he says people don't know him but say they are fans, and that hurts him.

idk what video either...

idk what he means by people dont know him and it hurts...BUT IMO he watches these boards and i think people say things like " mike wouldnt do this, mike wouldnt do that" when infact he has and that hurts him cause people act like he cant do anything wrong...and possibly wont like him if/when we find out the truth..but thats just my opinion

There was a video uploaded to that youtube site. After it was uploaded there where many nasty comments and people made accusations that he was a faker, that he was "Dom" the supposed British guy who claims to have made some voice recordings on a myspace page impersonating Michael and accused him of being someone named "Stephanie". After all these comments were made on the youtube, he removed the video and a few hours later deleted the entire youtube account.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: yaya on November 24, 2009, 11:14:51 PM
oh wow! what did he say on the video? maybe someone was lucky enough to download it...i wonder if it was really him...
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: mehere on November 24, 2009, 11:24:03 PM
sounds like someone is reading this forum and recapping what this foum has already discovered on their own and then adding tidbits to tweak our interest.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: misha86 on November 24, 2009, 11:31:28 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
There was a video uploaded to that youtube site. After it was uploaded there where many nasty comments and people made accusations that he was a faker, that he was "Dom" the supposed British guy who claims to have made some voice recordings on a myspace page impersonating Michael and accused him of being someone named "Stephanie". After all these comments were made on the youtube, he removed the video and a few hours later deleted the entire youtube account.
what was it a video of?

someone named stephanie? thats odd since he dated stephanie mills, has princess stephanie on in the closet and tatianas real name is stephanie :?
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Eva R on November 25, 2009, 02:53:31 AM
so he said this on myspace? Could you give me the link? :)
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Butterfly J on November 25, 2009, 03:14:41 AM
Quote from: "misha86"
idk what he means by people dont know him and it hurts...BUT IMO he watches these boards and i think people say things like " mike wouldnt do this, mike wouldnt do that" when infact he has and that hurts him cause people act like he cant do anything wrong...and possibly wont like him if/when we find out the truth..but thats just my opinion

I´m 100% agree with you. It bothers me all the time when people continue saying "he wouldn´t do this, he wouldn´t do that..." as they know for sure what he thinks, how he acts and who he is.  The truth is, we even don´t know ourselves 100% how we would act and reaact in different situations.
When someone says "he wouldn´t make fans feel bad..." maybe he is so hurt and he really would say something negative to us? Why not? He´s human too and humans get angry sometimes you know ;)
But I can understand why people think he´s faker. Mike told us not to believe everything what we read. There´s too many fakers and it´s really hard to choose.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: andrea_garay2005 on November 25, 2009, 03:20:00 AM
This is not a letter! This is what Appelhead Joe wrote on his channel before it closed down!
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Banessa on November 25, 2009, 03:49:08 AM
I very much Like TNZ and their blogs are amazing and are thought provoking. Regarding the letter/post... I'm sorry but I don't believe it to be a direct message from Michael or to be 100% real. I do believe however, Michael does love his family, there are more people than we know who are involved in this and not everything we see, hear, and or read has to be the truth! Especially not with all the MJ fakers going around taking advantage of fans. My opinion is that when Michael is ready to return he won't do it by sending subtle messages through open letters or by recording his voice on a video (Fake voice impersonators) but with a big BAM!!! Which no one will be expecting! ;) I will believe it until I hear it and see Michael himself saying what he has to say!

I personally don't take things literally and I like to look beyond the obvious before I make up my own mind about things. Remember and this is only my opinion but Michael was deeply hurt by everyone who took at face value everything they read and heard about him on the tabloids and from the media. I'm not saying stop looking for clues or messages but lets be a bit more cautious and rational as to what we choose to believe and take for clues!    

 The people over at TNZ are amazing and are doing a great job!(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz114/nessyj79/Cheers.gif)   Their best advice is to always read between the lines ;)
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MJJ1982 on November 25, 2009, 04:41:23 AM
Quote from: "andrea_garay2005"
This is not a letter! This is what Appelhead Joe wrote on his channel before it closed down!

Yeah that's the one!
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 25, 2009, 04:51:03 AM
some times i feel like im going around in circles,and i for one dont believe all that i read and yes mj is human,we as fans can sometimes get clouded by that,thinking we know him better then what we do,we all have many sides to us i know i do
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Banessa on November 25, 2009, 04:58:17 AM
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
some times i feel like im going around in circles,and i for one dont believe all that i read and yes mj is human,we as fans can sometimes get clouded by that,thinking we know him better then what we do,we all have many sides to us i know i do

I agree with you! We really don't know him and we can't judge him for something which we think he may or may not do! BTW at times I also feel as if I am going in circles and I think I can benefit from being in the same location where you are! ;) Is there any room for one more in the cell? :lol:
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 25, 2009, 05:00:25 AM
there is plenty of room for everyone in my padded cell feel free to enter :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Banessa on November 25, 2009, 05:11:36 AM
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
there is plenty of room for everyone in my padded cell feel free to enter :lol:  :lol:

 :lol: Thanx! Will do  :lol:
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: juliet on November 25, 2009, 06:16:19 AM
Guys, if  you think the writer is Michael, I respect  you for that.
But in my opinion, through all the years (approximately 43 years) Michael has been dealing with fans, media, business cos., concerts, tours, charities, etc., I think he understands very well how, why and what the fans are going through all these months.  He, in no way will be offended by different reactions/speculations because he knows it's human nature.

I don't think that's written at all by Michael.  He'll go to a much bigger and subtle scale of giving messages to people.  Remember, Michael always, always  and always think of what he's doing because he doesn't want to hurt people.  If in someway he did hurt somebody, he will make-up for it in such a huge/different way.  And he always acknowledges people so they will feel gratified.

These are only my thoughts and I hope I didn't offend anybody.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: dyanne on November 25, 2009, 06:37:16 AM
on the other hand... have you ever seen Michael angry? Can you imagine how this force of nature would be if he were really really angry? He could say things like this because he is talking about people calling themselves fans and followers of his message, but who jump immediately at the throat of anybody saying he's Mike. I mean, we all believe he is alive, right? And yet, when someone comes out and says something that might be him, almost all start screaming IMPOSTER!. Well, in this case, he could even hold a huge press conference and explain everything and these people would begin accusing him of fraud :D

If this is the case, why bother? Why not live his life peacefully and not go through all this?
Be very careful, as you might end up like the media you so hate for what they have done to him. I've been reading articles and comments for a long while now and what I can see is this: people support each other and send love to each other and hug each other.... and yet, when someone new comes, the crowd immediately go against him with such rage that sometimes it scares me. If this is how his message hot through... I am really worried.  This is a paradox. We want him alive, we want him here, but I am afraid that when and if he comes we will deny his existence.

I know some might be angry of what I have written, but at the end of the day we have to remember he's human like us, he can be angry and has the right to be so, he can say nasty stuff when pissed off and apologize after if feels necessary, he can make mistakes...

What I always try to do is not to think "he would / wouldn't do that" cause I really don't know him personally so I have no idea how he would react. But instead look at things from human perspective and from how I would react to that situation and trust my judgment before others. And if something seems right to me and doesn't ring alarm bells then I put it as truth and move on with the puzzle. Guess it's the only way to keep sanity  :lol:
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MJLover1990 on November 25, 2009, 06:55:53 AM
Wow! this is big I mean the account has now been closed too.
I really believe that was Michael, and it's always good to read between the lines, Some may have said that for example on the LKL blog that one was Michael and the other was not I still think that everyone from we know it could be Michael on the LKL blog still Michael is all of them even the ones that say he is not him, it's all him doing that!
I believe in him I have faith in him I always will, and this proves that once and again.

I hope someone may have catched that video that Applehead Joe posted!
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Angelica on November 25, 2009, 10:57:47 AM
Friends,
This post was the most sensible and intelligent that I read here on this blog until now!
Without offending anyone, until my person because I put my post.
Is that all you are saying that the tire of repeating here in my homeland.
I'm always listening to: "Michael would not do such a thing, it would not hurt his family, his children, he was a consistent, you do not want to accept reality, he was weak, and just so ..."
Personally, it annoys me deeply!
People simply do not reason, Michael before being a singer, actor, dancer, composer he is: People!
Prone to errors and successes, moments of love and anger, a moment to give himself entirely and the other being a little selfish.
After all we all have these moments in our lives, for it will be any different?
There are moments in our lives that much as we do not want to hurt someone, one day it will be necessary.
And that day has come for him, will the media and the press thought he could flouting image, his name until the end of life?
Yes, I do respect that Michael and many fans around the world, he knows where he arrived arrived thanks to all of us, but this quiz can you see him yell ENOUGH!
And he did, it is true many are suffering, but he wants mostar the press and media that they can be Engand, manipulated and made of clowns as they did with it.
If Michael will return one day he will make a bombastic way, no one is waiting, will be the surprise factor.
With all very well drawn out, and then we did see that he really likes him, trust him, and has above all respect the attitudes that was forced to commit.
Is all that I excuse the long text, I am happy to see that there are people with the same ideas as me.  :)
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: juliet on November 25, 2009, 11:06:36 AM
I understand all your points.  But, one thing I know, there are so many people pretending to be Michael and I don't want my emotions to be played with.  It's
exactly 5 months already and there are so many feeds that came out and more feeds coming out from people hinting/insinuating that they are Michael or even saying that they communicate with Michael.

So now, this is it what I look like :shock: and :?
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Angelica on November 25, 2009, 11:24:20 AM
It's right Juliet, you're right.
Despite having posted the message from FB, speaking of the appearance today, I did not believe.
He will not give soft, now sure he communicates with people in your family and children, I tell you why: That picture of children going to school judo left me with one question in mind.
Why the Prince to go to judo class must take the notbook?
If you are making a melee class like this you do not have to handle computer at the same time right?
Now a detail we can not forget the notebboks, comes with a camera attached.
Another thing, the blanket, it does not really aware of what happened, regardless of their age, they are not told what really happened with her father, because Michael is not dead.
So what was the output? He is traveling ....
He is very small and would not want to knock you out.
I do not want to hurt me more ... just our problems that we all have.
Now tell me one thing, anyone out there wants a heat of 40 degrees?
The beach is a personal quirk, too good.
You are my guests, a hug! :lol:
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: francisca81 on November 25, 2009, 11:50:55 AM
Quote from: "misha86"
Quote from: "yaya"
which video is he talking about that he uploaded? and i'm not sure i understand what he means when he says people don't know him but say they are fans, and that hurts him.

idk what video either...

idk what he means by people dont know him and it hurts...BUT IMO he watches these boards and i think people say things like " mike wouldnt do this, mike wouldnt do that" when infact he has and that hurts him cause people act like he cant do anything wrong...and possibly wont like him if/when we find out the truth..but thats just my opinion


you have a good point here..
sometimes i see reactions of people, saying that he would never do something and that they would loose respect for him, if he would do that something. sometimes it's about something, from what i believe he did that. then i think, oh god, i hope he doesn't read this, because that wouldn't be nice then.
i think it's important to keep an open mind and be prepered for everything, even something, that isn't nice for some people. because it could be that the perfect person that people created in there mind about him, is an illusion...
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: nellyka7 on November 25, 2009, 12:17:12 PM
i read this last night on another thread. but he said something about his children and how they are aware of what happened, mentioned his siblings and Cassandra. This one doesn't.. did anyone see the video? I think the account is deleted right now, but I hope he comes back.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MJLover1990 on November 25, 2009, 12:18:26 PM
I agree with the recent posts, I mean they don't think Michael is human and he IS human he can get angry, pissed off etc
And yes he can do this, he loves his family and children very much and he loves us but he doesn't owe us a thing!
Some fans think that when Michael comes back that he will owe them alot because he did this, and he doesn't owe us anything.
He did this for a purpose, his whole family and close friends know about this and some people see Michael as an angel what he is ofcourse but most important of all he's a human being and has all the same feelings like we all do too.
So yes people need to stop saying stuff like ''Oh he would never do something like that'' well then they don't know him at all in my opinion.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MissG on November 25, 2009, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: "nellyka7"
i read this last ngiht on another thread. but he said something about his children and how they are aware of what happened, mentioned his siblings and Cassandra. This on doesn't.. did anyone see the video? I think the account is deleted right now, but I hope he comes back.

Right. This one is not mentioning Cassandra neither the thank you note to the great fans on his side, and does not mention even how a good fan should be  :? and ehat about the Gilda clue? either it is or not?

Parts are missing.

From youtube and posted here yesterday

But first, I must tell you this: I have no idea, who Dom is. I don't know a person by the name of Stephanie either.

I Love my children so very, very much, they are aware of the situation, yes you did see me at Universal Studios. However, many sightings of me are false.

Omer wants to be left, alone.

Dr Conrad Murray will not be charged with a homicide, where it concerns me.
Dr Arnold Klein is a LIAR. I feel very let down by him and his actions. What he said was disgusting and dehumanizing.
I did not impersonate Dave on Larry King Live.

Cassandra is my friend and a very good person.

I Love my sister Janet. My sister Rebbie NEVER had a twitter account. La Toya is not a bad person. You give Jermaine a hard time, I think. Marlon, Randy, Jackie & Tito, they have stuck by me, so far and I thank them sincerely.

I Love my mother Katherine, she has helped me pull through thick and thin, never making me feel bad about myself, but giving me Hope. My father Joseph, is not entirely a heartless person, I just wished he would have cared more.

I do Love my family and most of all the Fans, you have to know that.

Without Kenny Ortega and Randy Phillips' help, I wouldn't have managed this. You will know more in due course.

Body doubles have been used. But were they used for me?

Elizabeth Taylor, she is like my second mother, I Love her so much. I Love Diana.
Evan Ross is not my son.

Chris is so funny, he makes me laugh even when I feel like crying.

I keep seeing "fedora hat man" videos and I want to tell you that I was not at the funeral, in person.

The 911 call... Oh God. I hate that you had to listen to that.

If you have been wondering my This Is It song was written by me. Anka and me had a plan.

Sony are not as bad as you may think, I wouldn't allow that. The new slogan has been done for a purpose.

The video I uploaded was me, it was planned to see how things can be interpreted and now I know some of you clearly do not know me, but say you are fans. I feel slightly let down and hurt by this.
Some also speculate on whether I attended my Press Conference in London, March. I did attend.

The ambulance picture was not real, I'm sure most of you realize this.
I was not in the helicopter, that was someone else.

In regards to the RTL coroners van video, some parts were real.

"I'm alive and I'm here Forever" & "Love Lives Forever," I chose this, when TOY - the Fans.

Liberian Girl is very significant. Don't close your mind. Please keep an open mind.

In my Movie, the Gilda scene was not intentionally meant to be a clue, neither was my hand gestures.

I do Believe in the 2012 theory, we need to stop all wrong-doings in this world and help to Love one another more and to show each other support, before it's too late.

Some rehearsals date back, quite far.

I have told you much, I feel compelled to do so as I will not be sending replies any time soon.
Please don't hate me for what I have done. I have Faith in you all, I Believe in you all. I just wish you would have Believed in me. Most times I feel isolated as though there is no one around to understand, to understand why I have done this. I can not wait to personally tell you all this. But the time will come, when I feel it is best to fully reveal.

I would just like to add a special thanks to those who have beLIEved in me on YouTube from the start (in no particular order):
sexilady72
124mikki
MJJ20Girl
TheLongislandgirl83
MJSONLY
TheMadoula
wishiwsmine

The comeback will be Great.
An adventure.

Love always and Forever with the L.O.V.E.
I must go."


From TNZ

I have nothing to gain or lose,


There are so many speculations and plain contradictions.

I Love my children so very, very much, they are aware of the situation,

yes you did see me at Universal Studios.

many sightings of me are false.


Dr Conrad Murray will not be charged with a homicide

Without Kenny Ortega and Randy Phillips' help, I wouldn't have managed this.

You will know more in due course.



Body doubles have been used.

.

This Is It song was written by me. Anka and me had a plan.

Sony are not as bad as you may think, I wouldn't allow that. The new slogan has been done for a purpose.



The video I uploaded was me, planned to see how things can be interpreted

now I know some of you clearly do not know me, but say you are fans. I feel slightly let down and hurt by this.

whether I attended my Press Conference in London, March ,I did attend.


The ambulance picture was not real,I'm sure most of you realize this.


In regards to the RTL coroners van video, some parts were real.

"I'm alive and I'm here Forever"


Liberian Girl is very significant.

Don't close your mind. Please keep an open mind.


In my Movie, the Gilda scene was intentionally meant to be a clue,


we need to stop all wrong-doings in this world and help to Love one another more and to show each other support, before it's too late.

Some rehearsals date back, quit far

Please don't hate me for what I have done.

I just wish you would have Believed in me.

the time will come





The comeback will be Great.

An adventure.

Love always and Forever with the L.O.V.E
[/color]
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: yspadda on November 25, 2009, 12:31:06 PM
Quote from: "misha86"
if you look at the letter there are some words that are bold and some in lower case, IMO the bold is what we need to read...i.e. the truth is "spread" between the lines. this is what it says ONLY in bold. What do you guys think? Am I on to something or reaching...lol

So Misha86, if I understand well, you are just telling that the message on TNZ are the same as those posted by the mysterious 'Applehead JoeChannel' in his profile on the passed  http://www.youtube.com/user/AllTheInjustice (http://www.youtube.com/user/AllTheInjustice) channel !

As I like to jump to conclusions, I happily concluded that the persons who are behind the Applehead You Tube are the same as those who are behind TNZ. And as Applehead called Cassandra a friend, It's probably fair to conclude that they are also involved in the Cassandra/DK business.
Unfortunately, I don't think Michael is a member of the happy group. But I'm quite sure the little group has a lot of fun.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: francisca81 on November 25, 2009, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "nellyka7"
i read this last ngiht on another thread. but he said something about his children and how they are aware of what happened, mentioned his siblings and Cassandra. This on doesn't.. did anyone see the video? I think the account is deleted right now, but I hope he comes back.

Right. This one is not mentioning Cassandra neither the thank you note to the great fans on his side, and does not mention even how a good fan should be  :? and ehat about the Gilda clue? either it is or not?

Parts are missing.

From youtube and posted here yesterday

But first, I must tell you this: I have no idea, who Dom is. I don't know a person by the name of Stephanie either.

I Love my children so very, very much, they are aware of the situation, yes you did see me at Universal Studios. However, many sightings of me are false.

Omer wants to be left, alone.

Dr Conrad Murray will not be charged with a homicide, where it concerns me.
Dr Arnold Klein is a LIAR. I feel very let down by him and his actions. What he said was disgusting and dehumanizing.
I did not impersonate Dave on Larry King Live.

Cassandra is my friend and a very good person.

I Love my sister Janet. My sister Rebbie NEVER had a twitter account. La Toya is not a bad person. You give Jermaine a hard time, I think. Marlon, Randy, Jackie & Tito, they have stuck by me, so far and I thank them sincerely.

I Love my mother Katherine, she has helped me pull through thick and thin, never making me feel bad about myself, but giving me Hope. My father Joseph, is not entirely a heartless person, I just wished he would have cared more.

I do Love my family and most of all the Fans, you have to know that.

Without Kenny Ortega and Randy Phillips' help, I wouldn't have managed this. You will know more in due course.

Body doubles have been used. But were they used for me?

Elizabeth Taylor, she is like my second mother, I Love her so much. I Love Diana.
Evan Ross is not my son.

Chris is so funny, he makes me laugh even when I feel like crying.

I keep seeing "fedora hat man" videos and I want to tell you that I was not at the funeral, in person.

The 911 call... Oh God. I hate that you had to listen to that.

If you have been wondering my This Is It song was written by me. Anka and me had a plan.

Sony are not as bad as you may think, I wouldn't allow that. The new slogan has been done for a purpose.

The video I uploaded was me, it was planned to see how things can be interpreted and now I know some of you clearly do not know me, but say you are fans. I feel slightly let down and hurt by this.
Some also speculate on whether I attended my Press Conference in London, March. I did attend.

The ambulance picture was not real, I'm sure most of you realize this.
I was not in the helicopter, that was someone else.

In regards to the RTL coroners van video, some parts were real.

"I'm alive and I'm here Forever" & "Love Lives Forever," I chose this, when TOY - the Fans.

Liberian Girl is very significant. Don't close your mind. Please keep an open mind.

In my Movie, the Gilda scene was not intentionally meant to be a clue, neither was my hand gestures.

I do Believe in the 2012 theory, we need to stop all wrong-doings in this world and help to Love one another more and to show each other support, before it's too late.

Some rehearsals date back, quite far.

I have told you much, I feel compelled to do so as I will not be sending replies any time soon.
Please don't hate me for what I have done. I have Faith in you all, I Believe in you all. I just wish you would have Believed in me. Most times I feel isolated as though there is no one around to understand, to understand why I have done this. I can not wait to personally tell you all this. But the time will come, when I feel it is best to fully reveal.

I would just like to add a special thanks to those who have beLIEved in me on YouTube from the start (in no particular order):
sexilady72
124mikki
MJJ20Girl
TheLongislandgirl83
MJSONLY
TheMadoula
wishiwsmine

The comeback will be Great.
An adventure.

Love always and Forever with the L.O.V.E.
I must go."


From TNZ

I have nothing to gain or lose,


There are so many speculations and plain contradictions.

I Love my children so very, very much, they are aware of the situation,

yes you did see me at Universal Studios.

many sightings of me are false.


Dr Conrad Murray will not be charged with a homicide

Without Kenny Ortega and Randy Phillips' help, I wouldn't have managed this.

You will know more in due course.



Body doubles have been used.

.

This Is It song was written by me. Anka and me had a plan.

Sony are not as bad as you may think, I wouldn't allow that. The new slogan has been done for a purpose.



The video I uploaded was me, planned to see how things can be interpreted

now I know some of you clearly do not know me, but say you are fans. I feel slightly let down and hurt by this.

whether I attended my Press Conference in London, March ,I did attend.


The ambulance picture was not real,I'm sure most of you realize this.


In regards to the RTL coroners van video, some parts were real.

"I'm alive and I'm here Forever"


Liberian Girl is very significant.

Don't close your mind. Please keep an open mind.


In my Movie, the Gilda scene was intentionally meant to be a clue,


we need to stop all wrong-doings in this world and help to Love one another more and to show each other support, before it's too late.

Some rehearsals date back, quit far

Please don't hate me for what I have done.

I just wish you would have Believed in me.

the time will come





The comeback will be Great.

An adventure.

Love always and Forever with the L.O.V.E
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misha has only posted the parts that where in bold letters. the post was about reading between the lines and don't take everything for a fact.
so the things misha posted here the parts that tnz posted in bold an big letters... ;)
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: francisca81 on November 25, 2009, 12:49:05 PM
Quote from: "yspadda"
Quote from: "misha86"
if you look at the letter there are some words that are bold and some in lower case, IMO the bold is what we need to read...i.e. the truth is "spread" between the lines. this is what it says ONLY in bold. What do you guys think? Am I on to something or reaching...lol

So Misha86, if I understand well, you are just telling that the message on TNZ are the same as those posted by the mysterious 'Applehead JoeChannel' in his profile on the passed  http://www.youtube.com/user/AllTheInjustice (http://www.youtube.com/user/AllTheInjustice) channel !

As I like to jump to conclusions, I happily concluded that the persons who are behind the Applehead You Tube are the same as those who are behind TNZ. And as Applehead called Cassandra a friend, It's probably fair to conclude that they are also involved in the Cassandra/DK business.
Unfortunately, I don't think Michael is a member of the happy group. But I'm quite sure the little group has a lot of fun.

no the post was about, not taking everything for a fact, just because you read it somewhere. so misha posted the parts that where typed in big letters. and the cassandra part was not in big letters
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: xirisjex on November 25, 2009, 12:52:09 PM
I can't believe I missed all of this, the message & the youtube channel..
Did anyone save this when they saw it? I would love to hear it to see if it sounds like Michael to me..
I feel so left out of this conversation since I didn't get to see things like these messages.

It would be great if this is for real obviously.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: mehere on November 25, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
there is plenty of room for everyone in my padded cell feel free to enter :lol:  :lol:

Move over.  I'm there!
Every day there is new information, links to research, blogs to read, etc.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: CantStopLovingU on November 25, 2009, 01:01:01 PM
Daniella posted this in the comments section:

Look at this account!!!http://www.youtube.com/user/PPBmylife
Channel name is PPB ( Prince,Paris, Blanket my life)

If you read between the lines - PPB wrote this message on his channel - BUT if you take out ONLY the words that are in ALL CAPS you get a different message! See below iN RED

I believe he is dead and AM quite certain,MICHAEL JACKSON would not do this to his family friends and fans, I AM sure of this because he is a nice person but he is not ALIVE. NO you may say? you NEED TO let him go and stop WORRYing about him,he was and always WILL BE the king of pop.SEEING as some of YOU can't or just don't want to let him go, just think 'would mike put us all through this?' no you will SOON see things my way and know he is gone,we will always LOVEhim no matter what,but YOU have to think logically trust me, the MORE you believe he's alive,the more upset you will be when you find out he's gone.

~MICHAEL .b"
I AM MICHAEL JACKSON. I AM ALIVE. NO NEED TO WORRY. WILL BE SEEING YOU SOON. LOVE YOU MORE.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MissG on November 25, 2009, 01:03:39 PM
Soooo, the Gilda clue....yes or no?  :oops:
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MJJ1982 on November 25, 2009, 01:07:39 PM
Quote from: "CantStopLovingU"
Daniella posted this in the comments section:

Look at this account!!!http://www.youtube.com/user/PPBmylife
Channel name is PPB ( Prince,Paris, Blanket my life)

If you read between the lines - PPB wrote this message on his channel - BUT if you take out ONLY the words that are in ALL CAPS you get a different message! See below iN RED

I believe he is dead and AM quite certain,MICHAEL JACKSON would not do this to his family friends and fans, I AM sure of this because he is a nice person but he is not ALIVE. NO you may say? you NEED TO let him go and stop WORRYing about him,he was and always WILL BE the king of pop.SEEING as some of YOU can't or just don't want to let him go, just think 'would mike put us all through this?' no you will SOON see things my way and know he is gone,we will always LOVEhim no matter what,but YOU have to think logically trust me, the MORE you believe he's alive,the more upset you will be when you find out he's gone.

~MICHAEL .b"
I AM MICHAEL JACKSON. I AM ALIVE. NO NEED TO WORRY. WILL BE SEEING YOU SOON. LOVE YOU MORE.

I was reading some of the reactions on that channel, and it seems that they are convinced that it's really Michael. However I want to believe it too, I just can't.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MJLover1990 on November 25, 2009, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: "xirisjex"
I can't believe I missed all of this, the message & the youtube channel..
Did anyone save this when they saw it? I would love to hear it to see if it sounds like Michael to me..
I feel so left out of this conversation since I didn't get to see things like these messages.

It would be great if this is for real obviously.

Me too, I hope someone catched and saved those videos please!
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Kirsche on November 25, 2009, 04:09:33 PM
I heard and read the Message of PPB last month...But IDK


I think it's strange that http://www.youtube.com/user/AllTheInjustice (http://www.youtube.com/user/AllTheInjustice) is closed! This account doesn't exist anymore:(
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Missyb007 on November 25, 2009, 05:08:15 PM
Quote from: "dyanne"
on the other hand... have you ever seen Michael angry? Can you imagine how this force of nature would be if he were really really angry?

Funny you mention that! My boyfriend said a few days ago : I think michael jacskon has not only a sweet loving kind.. I BET he has an evil side too.. you know not bad but evil if he has to be!  :lol:
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MissG on November 25, 2009, 05:29:05 PM
??? appleheadjoe is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQbJaW2LHO8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQbJaW2LHO8)
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MJLover1990 on November 25, 2009, 07:27:43 PM
Okay that was kinda weird :?

I've found this video on MJHD it's a video with Michael's voice on it we don't know for sure if it's him and when it was recorded but it sure as hell sounds ALOT like Michael :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsSuLMONG4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsSuLMONG4)

Thanks to the people over at MJHD!
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Wildy on November 25, 2009, 07:57:07 PM
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Okay that was kinda weird :?

I've found this video on MJHD it's a video with Michael's voice on it we don't know for sure if it's him and when it was recorded but it sure as hell sounds ALOT like Michael :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsSuLMONG4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsSuLMONG4)

Thanks to the people over at MJHD!

WTH?!!! :shock: :?
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Scream on November 25, 2009, 11:35:22 PM
I've heard the full version of that video before, he says "I'm scared" at the end of it.

I have absolutely no doubt's it's him, do any of you remember that woman on CNN who said she recorded the phone call's  (with his permission) between her and Michael when they were talking about the situation with Tohme Tohme?

I think it's an extract from that, God knows how they got hold of it, though.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: misha86 on November 26, 2009, 12:10:12 AM
Quote from: "Banessa"
I very much Like TNZ and their blogs are amazing and are thought provoking. Regarding the letter/post... I'm sorry but I don't believe it to be a direct message from Michael or to be 100% real. I do believe however, Michael does love his family, there are more people than we know who are involved in this and not everything we see, hear, and or read has to be the truth! Especially not with all the MJ fakers going around taking advantage of fans. My opinion is that when Michael is ready to return he won't do it by sending subtle messages through open letters or by recording his voice on a video (Fake voice impersonators) but with a big BAM!!! Which no one will be expecting! ;) I will believe it until I hear it and see Michael himself saying what he has to say!

I personally don't take things literally and I like to look beyond the obvious before I make up my own mind about things. Remember and this is only my opinion but Michael was deeply hurt by everyone who took at face value everything they read and heard about him on the tabloids and from the media. I'm not saying stop looking for clues or messages but lets be a bit more cautious and rational as to what we choose to believe and take for clues!    

 The people over at TNZ are amazing and are doing a great job!(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz114/nessyj79/Cheers.gif)   Their best advice is to always read between the lines ;)

I agree with you about everything not being a clue...for instance i dont believe in cassandra or derek...
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: misha86 on November 26, 2009, 12:18:46 AM
Quote from: "yspadda"
Quote from: "misha86"
if you look at the letter there are some words that are bold and some in lower case, IMO the bold is what we need to read...i.e. the truth is "spread" between the lines. this is what it says ONLY in bold. What do you guys think? Am I on to something or reaching...lol

So Misha86, if I understand well, you are just telling that the message on TNZ are the same as those posted by the mysterious 'Applehead JoeChannel' in his profile on the passed  http://www.youtube.com/user/AllTheInjustice (http://www.youtube.com/user/AllTheInjustice) channel !

As I like to jump to conclusions, I happily concluded that the persons who are behind the Applehead You Tube are the same as those who are behind TNZ. And as Applehead called Cassandra a friend, It's probably fair to conclude that they are also involved in the Cassandra/DK business.
Unfortunately, I don't think Michael is a member of the happy group. But I'm quite sure the little group has a lot of fun.

tnz was posting what applehead post telling us to " spread between the lines"..they didnt say it was THERE post...

idk if they are the same people..although i think that they, TNZ, knows whats going on and if INFACT that youtube account was mike they would know that and maybe thats why there posting it saying, " hey you may not think its mj, but it could be"

i have never been to the cassandra or DK sites, i have only heard people talk about them hear but from what i have heard it seems like some BS..the only things i believe are giving out clues are : TMZ,TNZ, JONELL AND THE THISISALSOIT.COM anything or anyone else, other than family and friend slips ups i dont bother with
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: misha86 on November 26, 2009, 12:20:08 AM
Quote from: "francisca81"
Quote from: "yspadda"
Quote from: "misha86"
if you look at the letter there are some words that are bold and some in lower case, IMO the bold is what we need to read...i.e. the truth is "spread" between the lines. this is what it says ONLY in bold. What do you guys think? Am I on to something or reaching...lol

So Misha86, if I understand well, you are just telling that the message on TNZ are the same as those posted by the mysterious 'Applehead JoeChannel' in his profile on the passed  http://www.youtube.com/user/AllTheInjustice (http://www.youtube.com/user/AllTheInjustice) channel !

As I like to jump to conclusions, I happily concluded that the persons who are behind the Applehead You Tube are the same as those who are behind TNZ. And as Applehead called Cassandra a friend, It's probably fair to conclude that they are also involved in the Cassandra/DK business.
Unfortunately, I don't think Michael is a member of the happy group. But I'm quite sure the little group has a lot of fun.

no the post was about, not taking everything for a fact, just because you read it somewhere. so misha posted the parts that where typed in big letters. and the cassandra part was not in big letters

thanks for clarifing that for me :D
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: misha86 on November 26, 2009, 12:22:37 AM
Quote from: "CantStopLovingU"
Daniella posted this in the comments section:

Look at this account!!!http://www.youtube.com/user/PPBmylife
Channel name is PPB ( Prince,Paris, Blanket my life)

If you read between the lines - PPB wrote this message on his channel - BUT if you take out ONLY the words that are in ALL CAPS you get a different message! See below iN RED

I believe he is dead and AM quite certain,MICHAEL JACKSON would not do this to his family friends and fans, I AM sure of this because he is a nice person but he is not ALIVE. NO you may say? you NEED TO let him go and stop WORRYing about him,he was and always WILL BE the king of pop.SEEING as some of YOU can't or just don't want to let him go, just think 'would mike put us all through this?' no you will SOON see things my way and know he is gone,we will always LOVEhim no matter what,but YOU have to think logically trust me, the MORE you believe he's alive,the more upset you will be when you find out he's gone.

~MICHAEL .b"
I AM MICHAEL JACKSON. I AM ALIVE. NO NEED TO WORRY. WILL BE SEEING YOU SOON. LOVE YOU MORE.

this was posted awhile back and this is where i got the idea that maybe the bold parts of the letter where the truth and the other was just filler...but now im not sure what to think about this... :?
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Banessa on November 26, 2009, 12:44:26 AM
Quote from: "misha86"
Quote from: "Banessa"
I very much Like TNZ and their blogs are amazing and are thought provoking. Regarding the letter/post... I'm sorry but I don't believe it to be a direct message from Michael or to be 100% real. I do believe however, Michael does love his family, there are more people than we know who are involved in this and not everything we see, hear, and or read has to be the truth! Especially not with all the MJ fakers going around taking advantage of fans. My opinion is that when Michael is ready to return he won't do it by sending subtle messages through open letters or by recording his voice on a video (Fake voice impersonators) but with a big BAM!!! Which no one will be expecting! ;) I will believe it until I hear it and see Michael himself saying what he has to say!

I personally don't take things literally and I like to look beyond the obvious before I make up my own mind about things. Remember and this is only my opinion but Michael was deeply hurt by everyone who took at face value everything they read and heard about him on the tabloids and from the media. I'm not saying stop looking for clues or messages but lets be a bit more cautious and rational as to what we choose to believe and take for clues!    

 The people over at TNZ are amazing and are doing a great job!(http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz114/nessyj79/Cheers.gif)   Their best advice is to always read between the lines ;)

I agree with you about everything not being a clue...for instance i dont believe in cassandra or derek...

I don't believe them either ;) I do agree with you there are a few people or groups giving out clues but definitely not everything or everyone is. I also agree with the poster (Sorry can't remember who exactly [Juliet?] ) but I also don't take everything at face value, because I don't and I won't allow some charlatans play with my feelings and my emotions just to give them a good laugh! I do believe Michael is capable of doing everything and anything he wants. I believe him to be a man who is able to get as angry just as much as he is able to be nice and charming. He is a human and humans, thankfully have flaws, imagine how boring if we were all perfect!Therefore, humans are unpredictable, we never really get to know everyone, especially someone like Michael , who only allowed us his fans see what he wanted us to see. Hope no one takes offense by my comment as my intention is not to offend anyone! On a different note I think the fellows on TNZ are only trying to get people to see beyond the obvious, like they say "read between the lines" and for us not to take everything literally. They are all about giving us information but for us to make the ultimate decision based on our own judgment! ;)
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MJLover1990 on November 26, 2009, 04:53:01 AM
Quote from: "Scream"
I've heard the full version of that video before, he says "I'm scared" at the end of it.

I have absolutely no doubt's it's him, do any of you remember that woman on CNN who said she recorded the phone call's  (with his permission) between her and Michael when they were talking about the situation with Tohme Tohme?

I think it's an extract from that, God knows how they got hold of it, though.

Do you maybe have the full video?
I'm dying to hear it, I'm 99.9% sure it's Michael!

But when would that have been recorded then before or after the 25th of June?
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: yspadda on November 26, 2009, 05:17:22 AM
Quote from: "francisca81"
so misha posted the parts that where typed in big letters.

Yes, that's what I understood.
But the quotes Misha posted are the same as those posted on the You Tube profile. So I concluded that the same people put posted them on different places under different indentities.
That's why I think the same group is behind TNZ,  Applehead on You Tube and Cassandra/DK.
I for one don't trust them.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Missyb007 on November 26, 2009, 06:40:50 AM
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Okay that was kinda weird :?

I've found this video on MJHD it's a video with Michael's voice on it we don't know for sure if it's him and when it was recorded but it sure as hell sounds ALOT like Michael :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsSuLMONG4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsSuLMONG4)

Thanks to the people over at MJHD!

http://www.youtube.com/user/mjforeveralways#p/u/1/ZNwEBcfY23sthis is the same guy right?...
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: SPAKKLE29FUL on November 26, 2009, 07:30:20 AM
that is weird all he said was this is michael whats the point have i missed something
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: MissG on November 26, 2009, 08:41:46 AM
Quote from: "Missyb007"
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Okay that was kinda weird :?

I've found this video on MJHD it's a video with Michael's voice on it we don't know for sure if it's him and when it was recorded but it sure as hell sounds ALOT like Michael :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsSuLMONG4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsSuLMONG4)

Thanks to the people over at MJHD!

http://www.youtube.com/user/mjforeveralways#p/u/1/ZNwEBcfY23sthis is the same guy right?...


That guy is not MJ.
He posted a video with his face, live, on youtube giving and apology for creating those confusing messages. He also recorded the exact same messages on youtube.

Is an average boy from UK who likes to impersonate Michael´s voice.
His voice always sounded non Michael to me.

The same day I listened to those messages back in July, I searched for interviews of MJ since 1984 up to 2008. Michael´s voice is different.
Title: Re: "Spread between the lines"-tnz
Post by: Missyb007 on November 26, 2009, 04:45:27 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "Missyb007"
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Okay that was kinda weird :?

I've found this video on MJHD it's a video with Michael's voice on it we don't know for sure if it's him and when it was recorded but it sure as hell sounds ALOT like Michael :shock:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsSuLMONG4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onsSuLMONG4)

Thanks to the people over at MJHD!

http://www.youtube.com/user/mjforeveralways#p/u/1/ZNwEBcfY23sthis is the same guy right?...


That guy is not MJ.
He posted a video with his face, live, on youtube giving and apology for creating those confusing messages. He also recorded the exact same messages on youtube.

Is an average boy from UK who likes to impersonate Michael´s voice.
His voice always sounded non Michael to me.

The same day I listened to those messages back in July, I searched for interviews of MJ since 1984 up to 2008. Michael´s voice is different.

Haha yeah I knew that... just wanted to know if it was him too ;)
Cause I thought it could be the same guy, making jokes and stuff
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