Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Hoax Videos => Topic started by: PureLove on August 05, 2011, 04:13:08 PM
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I've never seen this before and WOW! They found really very interesting things. Now this explains why all of the names were wrong in the marriage certificate. Plus Michael's name. It was written as Michael JOSEPH Jackson.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjjFaawdrg&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
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Oh man, this is good! Mike specifically wanted Jugo Alverez to perform the wedding ceremony out of his jurisdiction so that the marriage would SEEM real but in fact be fake. Mike, you got us again! This hoax takes me somewhere I have never been before. We really are seeing a different side of MJ and I really really like this side ;)
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This is really interesting. You can definitely tell the magistrate is lying. I wonder if their divorce papers were leaked and what names were on those because obviously if the marriage was fake they wouldn't need anything. I am confused though because to me the marriage seemed real. Otherwise, why would they still act like they were together after they divorced? I mean there are pictures of them holding hands and kissing while he was with Debbie.
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there is a vidoe somewhere of ( i think) a geraldo show where joe espisito said that if elvis were alive there would never be any marriage between lisa and michael. he also said that they (meaning michael and lisa ) were friends and that she might have done it to help him out.
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Thanks for posting the video. Really interesting find.
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While the video is no doubt "interesting"...I sumbit that it's what's in your heart that matters...not what's on paper. Unless someone was interested in taking the other to the cleaners financially (which wasn't the case here)...they may have just opted for convenience and not been concerned with jurisdiction.
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I remember this statement about Elvis. I’ll help you find it if it’s still out there.
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That magisrate is definitely lying. OMG what a farce :shock:
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I think the MJ/Elvis correlation in this whole hoax is much more significant than just the "death" parallels. A while back, the majority of the TIAI re-directs (for a while) focused on Elvis and that he is still alive, a lot of it to do with the Eliza case. The "death" parallels were brought up way before the re-directs but our attention was brought to back the connections, in a big way.
If nearly everything on June 25th and after is part of the hoax script, why wouldn't before as well, going back years and years? If the marriage was for the script, why would it need to be real? I can't say I know whether their marriage was real or not but I do believe that they had (and still have) a loving and understanding relationship. My point is that if Michael can fake his death, he can fake a marriage too.
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I remember Donald Trump said, they was stayng on his hotel shortly after getting married and Michael with Lisa was not leaving room for days@@ and Donald was absolutly sure that our sweethearts is having there very good time . He just answering there same Q we answering now. So i believe him. TAKE CARE EVERYBODY.@
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VERY interesting...great find PureLove. Any idea when this was aired? I've never seen it before and it must not have received much publicity or it would have been discussed extensively on many boards (or maybe I just missed it altogether...wouldn't be the first time lol).
If we've learned anything about MJ over the last two years, then we know he didn't do anything half-assed, so to speak. There is nothing I've come across to suggest that he was forced or coerced, in any way, to marry LMP...so chances are that he was in control of his actions and chose that path. Maybe it really was for love and they didn't care about having it on paper, as Love4Michael suggested...who knows? But nothing with Mike is ever that simple...it's never black or white.
Andrea makes a good point reminding us of the MJ/Elvis connection...but we also know that that connection extends even beyond LMP. What is the link in the MJ/Elvis parallels that would connect with LMP...specifically, the need to marry her? If it was for the 'script,' why the need to make it appear as if they were married to everyone, when they really weren't?
The only other link... that jumps out at me...which would possibly require them to be married, is Scientology. Now, I've just recently started looking deeper into Scientology (due to the 'anonymous' videos)...but what I've researched so far didn't include membership rules/requirements. Maybe some of you are more versed in that and can shed some light on whether or not the 'church' would've required that Mike marry LMP in order to become a member. Just thinking out loud here, but I think I recall Elvis being VERY against Scientology...which could be another 'branch' in the MJ/Elvis parallels.
IDK...I could be way off...but I'm seeing ALL kinds of 'dots' lately and a lot of them lead me to believe that Mike found a way into Scientolgy, for very specific reasons...and when he got what he went there for, the script changed.
With L.O.V.E. always.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjxLKJuMQzE[/youtube]
it just makes me think of the elvis and pricilla quicky wedding.
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there is a vidoe somewhere of ( i think) a geraldo show where joe espisito said that if elvis were alive there would never be any marriage between lisa and michael. he also said that they (meaning michael and lisa ) were friends and that she might have done it to help him out.
I wonder why he said something like Elvis would never allow them to get married. I think this is just their assumption that Elvis wouldn't love Michael. I don't believe Michael would need such a "help" of any woman to "look" like a heterosexual man. But it is also possible that the marriage was made to eliminate all the "MJ is gay" rumors. I don't know but anything is possible when it comes to Michael Prankster Jackson. ::P
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ELVIS would have been against the marriage because he is a racist. He did not like black people, this I have read it, and he has said it from his own mouth. Even if Michael became white due to vitiligo he is still and African American man, and that is a no no for Elvis. I have always said it Michael used Lisa Marie, to find out more information how her father hoaxed his death. In reality they both used each other. Thank you purelove for this interesting video.. So his marriage was a sham, we say not to listen to tabloids, but the tabloids were right this time. Do not underestimate Michael, he is a very clever man...
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I remember Donald Trump said, they was stayng on his hotel shortly after getting married and Michael with Lisa was not leaving room for days@@ and Donald was absolutly sure that our sweethearts is having there very good time . He just answering there same Q we answering now. So i believe him. TAKE CARE EVERYBODY.@
You are perfectly right :),here is the video ,where Donald Trump confirmed this:
Donald Trump on Michael and Lisa Marie Marriage Oct 1997
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiDw1Hle0oM
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LOVE
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pale/ Michael did what he wanted and he fooled the world (or let's say, gave the dreams to those who prefer dreaming including the gamblers).
:lol:
I really like that.
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When I was looking up articles on Elvis's attitude towards blacks, I found this article which at first I thought said Elvis WAS a racist, but then tried to say that was a myth and not true. What I really found interesting was a comment from an african-american who felt that Elvis absolutely was racist. And at the end he makes the comparison with MJ's true reciprocated love by and for ALL people groups and colors of the world. Myself personally, I think it's one thing for white people to say that Elvis is not racist, but quite another for black people to say he is because most white people have no clue how subtle racism continues on, and they think everything's perfectly fine.
http://www.elvisinfonet.com/spotlight_racist.html
So you see, even though you show a picture of Jim Brown a famous football player, Johnny Mathis, or some other super star of their era (standing next to Elvis) doesn’t mean Elvis wasn’t a racist or shouted racist remarks at negro, blacks, African Americans’ (wasn’t alive) or Africano. Elvis could care less about Jim Brown the man.
And if you really wanted to find out the truth, ask Jim Brown or other blacks who had run-ins with your king.
When Elvis shouted his infamous remarks at his concert to that black lady and called her a nigger and then bought her a Cadillac isn’t something an non racist does. What’s really disappointing is, when I was kid I thought Elvis was so cool, until I started hearing rumors and then proof.
Although it’s a free country to write and say what you want, you can’t hide the truth from those who seek the truth. Elvis was indeed a racist as is both President Bush’s.
To say Elvis didn’t imitate Blacks is like saying Pat Boone didn’t steal from Little Richard, or didn’t that happened. Or like the Stones Stealing from Bo’ Diley. Look…emulation is the highest form of flattery but, Elvis was not trying to give credit to blacks he was simply M&M of his day. The difference from the two is, M&M will admit that he is his own person, but he emulated Africano style rappers.
Also to just so we are clear about the two kings. MJ was loved by all races. Elvis was only loved by Europeans. The reason why Elvis won’t die is due to economics in terms of white people having enough money to continue feeding into his death. MJ will never die as well, but he will be considered on a higher platform because of genuine love he had for all races.
Also, just another reason why Back is probably MJ, is that Elvis had a record named Elvis is Back. http://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftdreview_elvisisback2.html I don't think the name Back was chosen randomly, and only Michael was competitively aware of Elvis' fame, and wanted to surpass him, just as he did the Beatles and Prince. I also think for Michael there was also the desire to forage into the surpassing anything white man could do, since he got his videos into MTV as the first black performer and faught hard for black musicians to not get taken advantage of by white producers, etc. MJ and Katherine (I heard her say it) claimed that many of the lies in the media about MJ were because of racism and jealousy, with the intention of bringing down a black man who dared surpass white musicans.
Also just a thought on the video clip on the marriage between MJ and Lisa being not legal -- isn't it true that the only witnesses were 2 people from Lisa's Scientology church? Perhaps they were there to make sure that it was NOT a legal marriage, because MJ was not a member and/or didn't want to become a member, or perhaps Lisa knew that a legal marriage to a black man would anger her mom and/or 'dad' (perhaps also why she didn't want to have his bi-racial children). Perhaps that was the only way she would 'marry' him. Just wondering.
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I've never seen this before and WOW! They found really very interesting things. Now this explains why all of the names were wrong in the marriage certificate. Plus Michael's name. It was written as Michael JOSEPH Jackson.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjjFaawdrg&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Thank you for this video PureLove,wow very rare!!!!
If we all agree this was wow ,then please watch part 2 , afraid/,OMG !!!
The Greatest Show On Earth - More than 1 hoax? Part 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU8qe4zbUyo&feature=related[/youtube]
Lisa went after Michael begging to take her back,we already know this because Michael told Boteach.
We all remember the confusion about Katherine Jackson being on June 26, 2010 at the Beverly Hilton Hotel for the presentation of her book:Never can say goodbye.In in the end we find out she was in another place ,lol 8-)and that place is Encino :o.LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.
The reason I bring this subject is because I want to tell once and for all what I think about THE PLACE where the interview with Oprah and Lisa was in fact. I think the real place was NEVERLAND not ENGLAND :shock:.Pay attention to the video above,starting with 7:39.Lisa says she was in England when she find out Michael died ::).But isn't England the place where she is supposed to be in that moment,giving a interview to Oprah ?If that was the truth she had to say :
I WAS HERE ,IN ENGLAND,no????? :? 8-).The reason I say all this is because I kept this in me for a long time,and now I had to do it.Some people will say Im crazy but after watching many ,many videos of Neverland I know for sure that place is not England !!!!!!
LOVE
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Interesting.
This marriage being fake just lends more credibility to my theory that the Pepsi burn was a hoax as well.
One more reminder that everything is not as it seems.
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I believe the Pepsi burn is real. MJ has been wearing hair pieces since that time. I don’t think he would vouch to wear them unless it was necessary. Just my opinion on that.
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Thank you for this video PureLove,wow very rare!!!!
If we all agree this was wow ,then please watch part 2 , afraid/,OMG !!!
The Greatest Show On Earth - More than 1 hoax? Part 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU8qe4zbUyo&feature=related[/youtube]
Thank you for posting the second part of the video applehead. This is really getting more and more interesting to me. After you watch this video, you get an impression like LMP was obsessed with Michael. And on the other hand, it was really weird where she says she was trying to understand her relationship with Michael. :?
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When I was looking up articles on Elvis's attitude towards blacks, I found this article which at first I thought said Elvis WAS a racist, but then tried to say that was a myth and not true. What I really found interesting was a comment from an african-american who felt that Elvis absolutely was racist. And at the end he makes the comparison with MJ's true reciprocated love by and for ALL people groups and colors of the world. Myself personally, I think it's one thing for white people to say that Elvis is not racist, but quite another for black people to say he is because most white people have no clue how subtle racism continues on, and they think everything's perfectly fine.
http://www.elvisinfonet.com/spotlight_racist.html
So you see, even though you show a picture of Jim Brown a famous football player, Johnny Mathis, or some other super star of their era (standing next to Elvis) doesn’t mean Elvis wasn’t a racist or shouted racist remarks at negro, blacks, African Americans’ (wasn’t alive) or Africano. Elvis could care less about Jim Brown the man.
And if you really wanted to find out the truth, ask Jim Brown or other blacks who had run-ins with your king.
When Elvis shouted his infamous remarks at his concert to that black lady and called her a nigger and then bought her a Cadillac isn’t something an non racist does. What’s really disappointing is, when I was kid I thought Elvis was so cool, until I started hearing rumors and then proof.
Although it’s a free country to write and say what you want, you can’t hide the truth from those who seek the truth. Elvis was indeed a racist as is both President Bush’s.
To say Elvis didn’t imitate Blacks is like saying Pat Boone didn’t steal from Little Richard, or didn’t that happened. Or like the Stones Stealing from Bo’ Diley. Look…emulation is the highest form of flattery but, Elvis was not trying to give credit to blacks he was simply M&M of his day. The difference from the two is, M&M will admit that he is his own person, but he emulated Africano style rappers.
Also to just so we are clear about the two kings. MJ was loved by all races. Elvis was only loved by Europeans. The reason why Elvis won’t die is due to economics in terms of white people having enough money to continue feeding into his death. MJ will never die as well, but he will be considered on a higher platform because of genuine love he had for all races.
Also, just another reason why Back is probably MJ, is that Elvis had a record named Elvis is Back. http://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftdreview_elvisisback2.html (http://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftdreview_elvisisback2.html) I don't think the name Back was chosen randomly, and only Michael was competitively aware of Elvis' fame, and wanted to surpass him, just as he did the Beatles and Prince. I also think for Michael there was also the desire to forage into the surpassing anything white man could do, since he got his videos into MTV as the first black performer and faught hard for black musicians to not get taken advantage of by white producers, etc. MJ and Katherine (I heard her say it) claimed that many of the lies in the media about MJ were because of racism and jealousy, with the intention of bringing down a black man who dared surpass white musicans.
Also just a thought on the video clip on the marriage between MJ and Lisa being not legal -- isn't it true that the only witnesses were 2 people from Lisa's Scientology church? Perhaps they were there to make sure that it was NOT a legal marriage, because MJ was not a member and/or didn't want to become a member, or perhaps Lisa knew that a legal marriage to a black man would anger her mom and/or 'dad' (perhaps also why she didn't want to have his bi-racial children). Perhaps that was the only way she would 'marry' him. Just wondering.
I am a white person, and I am appalled that people up to this century are still racist. We are all equal in this world. I am trying to look for the interview of Elvis who said it from his mouth that he is racist, he did not like black people. Thats why if he were here Lisa Marie would have never married Michael. Believe me Elvis was or is a racist...
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I've never seen this before and WOW! They found really very interesting things. Now this explains why all of the names were wrong in the marriage certificate. Plus Michael's name. It was written as Michael JOSEPH Jackson.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjjFaawdrg&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Thank you for this video PureLove,wow very rare!!!!
If we all agree this was wow ,then please watch part 2 , afraid/ ,OMG !!!
The Greatest Show On Earth - More than 1 hoax? Part 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU8qe4zbUyo&feature=related[/youtube]
Lisa went after Michael begging to take her back,we already know this because Michael told Boteach.
We all remember the confusion about Katherine Jackson being on June 26, 2010 at the Beverly Hilton Hotel for the presentation of her book:Never can say goodbye.In in the end we find out she was in another place ,lol 8-)and that place is Encino :o .LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.
The reason I bring this subject is because I want to tell once and for all what I think about THE PLACE where the interview with Oprah and Lisa was in fact. I think the real place was NEVERLAND not ENGLAND :shock: .Pay attention to the video above,starting with 7:39.Lisa says she was in England when she find out Michael died ::) .But isn't England the place where she is supposed to be in that moment,giving a interview to Oprah ?If that was the truth she had to say :
I WAS HERE ,IN ENGLAND,no????? :? 8-) .The reason I say all this is because I kept this in me for a long time,and now I had to do it.Some people will say Im crazy but after watching many ,many videos of Neverland I know for sure that place is not England !!!!!!
LOVE
Applehead you are up to something, It could be she was in neverland, plus look at the sunflower flowers on the table next to Oprah???
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Character
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I do agree that this was at Neverland. I said it way back when --- that Michael set the stage for
So that he could go back there and be safe.
He said he would never go back there again. that would make it the best place.
NO ONE WOULD THINK TO LOOK FOR HIM THERE
And I still think of all the cement trucks :O)))
Michael you’re so clever.
I do believe with all my heart that he is alive and enjoying his Neverland once again.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
love you more
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When I was looking up articles on Elvis's attitude towards blacks, I found this article which at first I thought said Elvis WAS a racist, but then tried to say that was a myth and not true. What I really found interesting was a comment from an african-american who felt that Elvis absolutely was racist. And at the end he makes the comparison with MJ's true reciprocated love by and for ALL people groups and colors of the world. Myself personally, I think it's one thing for white people to say that Elvis is not racist, but quite another for black people to say he is because most white people have no clue how subtle racism continues on, and they think everything's perfectly fine.
http://www.elvisinfonet.com/spotlight_racist.html
So you see, even though you show a picture of Jim Brown a famous football player, Johnny Mathis, or some other super star of their era (standing next to Elvis) doesn’t mean Elvis wasn’t a racist or shouted racist remarks at negro, blacks, African Americans’ (wasn’t alive) or Africano. Elvis could care less about Jim Brown the man.
And if you really wanted to find out the truth, ask Jim Brown or other blacks who had run-ins with your king.
When Elvis shouted his infamous remarks at his concert to that black lady and called her a nigger and then bought her a Cadillac isn’t something an non racist does. What’s really disappointing is, when I was kid I thought Elvis was so cool, until I started hearing rumors and then proof.
Although it’s a free country to write and say what you want, you can’t hide the truth from those who seek the truth. Elvis was indeed a racist as is both President Bush’s.
To say Elvis didn’t imitate Blacks is like saying Pat Boone didn’t steal from Little Richard, or didn’t that happened. Or like the Stones Stealing from Bo’ Diley. Look…emulation is the highest form of flattery but, Elvis was not trying to give credit to blacks he was simply M&M of his day. The difference from the two is, M&M will admit that he is his own person, but he emulated Africano style rappers.
Also to just so we are clear about the two kings. MJ was loved by all races. Elvis was only loved by Europeans. The reason why Elvis won’t die is due to economics in terms of white people having enough money to continue feeding into his death. MJ will never die as well, but he will be considered on a higher platform because of genuine love he had for all races.
Also, just another reason why Back is probably MJ, is that Elvis had a record named Elvis is Back. http://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftdreview_elvisisback2.html (http://www.elvisinfonet.com/ftdreview_elvisisback2.html) I don't think the name Back was chosen randomly, and only Michael was competitively aware of Elvis' fame, and wanted to surpass him, just as he did the Beatles and Prince. I also think for Michael there was also the desire to forage into the surpassing anything white man could do, since he got his videos into MTV as the first black performer and faught hard for black musicians to not get taken advantage of by white producers, etc. MJ and Katherine (I heard her say it) claimed that many of the lies in the media about MJ were because of racism and jealousy, with the intention of bringing down a black man who dared surpass white musicans.
Also just a thought on the video clip on the marriage between MJ and Lisa being not legal -- isn't it true that the only witnesses were 2 people from Lisa's Scientology church? Perhaps they were there to make sure that it was NOT a legal marriage, because MJ was not a member and/or didn't want to become a member, or perhaps Lisa knew that a legal marriage to a black man would anger her mom and/or 'dad' (perhaps also why she didn't want to have his bi-racial children). Perhaps that was the only way she would 'marry' him. Just wondering.
I am a white person, and I am appalled that people up to this century are still racist. We are all equal in this world. I am trying to look for the interview of Elvis who said it from his mouth that he is racist, he did not like black people. Thats why if he were here Lisa Marie would have never married Michael. Believe me Elvis was or is a racist...
I was never a fan of Elvis and I never I want to read his life, and the few things that I had heard is that he was or is a religious man... and racism is not a Christian, I believe that we are discovering the true nature of Elvis without wanting to, the difference with Michael is enormous, is beloved around the world, by people of all races and religions.
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Wow thats really interesting... it all makes so much sense!!!!
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I believe the Pepsi burn is real. MJ has been wearing hair pieces since that time. I don’t think he would vouch to wear them unless it was necessary. Just my opinion on that.
I would agree with "unless it was necessary".
But I would question the connection of "wig was necessary" with "due to the accident".
This gives a timeline around the accident:
MJ visited the unit for burn victims at Brotman Memorial Hospital on Jan 10, 1984.
MJ suffered from the Pepsi accident on Jan 27, 1984.
He was brought to Cedar Sinai then Brotman Memorial from where he was released on Jan 28, 1984.
MJ executed a visit to the Los Angeles zoo in company of Emmauel Lewis on Feb 5th, 1984.
Michael was smiling in the ambulance, leaving the hospital just a few days later although he was said to have suffered 2nd degree burnings.
Michael was in Brotman facility before the accident.
Being perceived in this "wigged" way afterwards opened
- freedom to walk the streets not wearing the recognizable wigs and not hiding behind a surgical mask (but behind a professional realistic mask like maybe one of these:
http://www.spfxmasks.com/ourmasks.php (http://www.spfxmasks.com/ourmasks.php)
http://www.wimp.com/realisticmask/ (http://www.wimp.com/realisticmask/))
- security to use decoys with the brand outfit (wig, shades, surgical mask) whenever required.
Michael had natural hair that would not need to be hidden - except for other purposes when necessary.
Blessings.
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Michael belongs at NEVERLAND. It was his heaven on earth. When he happened upon it, it was not much more than a vast nothingness. He envisioned what it could be. Put his creative mind to work and created out of his imagination, his own lost childhood. Michael is the most gifted human being I’ve ever known. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING he cannot do creatively. NOTHING. He sings, dances, writes music, poetry, philantropic, plays many instruments, can duplicate any dance move after 1 look see, paints, draws, analytical to a science, and now an architect. The list goes on and on. No way a fumbling fool could have destroyed him and took his life. His instincts are too keen. I simply cannot believe it.
For Michael to turn away from Neverland is like God turning away from earth. He might have left her for a while, but he would have to eventually go back. Neverland is too much a part of Michael’s entire psyche since childhood to let it go on a whim. Neverland is his Wendy. Remember, he is PeterPan at heart.
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I believe the Pepsi burn is real. MJ has been wearing hair pieces since that time. I don’t think he would vouch to wear them unless it was necessary. Just my opinion on that.
I would agree with "unless it was necessary".
But I would question the connection of "wig was necessary" with "due to the accident".
This gives a timeline around the accident:
MJ visited the unit for burn victims at Brotman Memorial Hospital on Jan 10, 1984.
MJ suffered from the Pepsi accident on Jan 27, 1984.
He was brought to Cedar Sinai then Brotman Memorial from where he was released on Jan 28, 1984.
MJ executed a visit to the Los Angeles zoo in company of Emmauel Lewis on Feb 5th, 1984.
Michael was smiling in the ambulance, leaving the hospital just a few days later although he was said to have suffered 2nd degree burnings.
Michael was in Brotman facility before the accident.
Being perceived in this "wigged" way afterwards opened
- freedom to walk the streets not wearing the recognizable wigs and not hiding behind a surgical mask (but behind a professional realistic mask like maybe one of these:
http://www.spfxmasks.com/ourmasks.php (http://www.spfxmasks.com/ourmasks.php)
http://www.wimp.com/realisticmask/ (http://www.wimp.com/realisticmask/))
- security to use decoys with the brand outfit (wig, shades, surgical mask) whenever required.
Michael had natural hair that would not need to be hidden - except for other purposes when necessary.
Blessings.
MJ was not wearing a wig at the Grammys 30 days after the "accident":
(http://exploringthehoax.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/jackson-hair-and-scalp-1984_i1.jpg)
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When I was shadowing a doctor there was a man who had been completely scalped all the way to his skull and he had surgery to sew his scalp back on and was released the day after his surgery. She said that scalp injuries are the fastest to heal and that there is hardly any scarring. While still painful, the pain isn't as chronic as other injuries and doesn't last as long. So it's still possible that the accident could have occurred in my opinion.
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I do agree that this was at Neverland. I said it way back when --- that Michael set the stage for
So that he could go back there and be safe.
He said he would never go back there again. that would make it the best place.
NO ONE WOULD THINK TO LOOK FOR HIM THERE
And I still think of all the cement trucks :O)))
Michael you’re so clever.
I do believe with all my heart that he is alive and enjoying his Neverland once again.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
love you more
also....by not going back there..it's letting "them" win...win his very home. They tried to take his soul and they did corrupt it a lot, but to give up his home forever? I think he set the stage to make it look like they'd won.
In the end he can sing.."You can't win..!" to THEM.
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unless of course this is joes way of saying elvis isn't dead afraid/ and i am sure lisa would be willing to help michael go after people who also made her fathers life as isolated as his own the paps.
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It is possible that Michael’s hair did grow back to an extent since he suffered 2nd degree burns which did not burn to the fatty layer of skin. Had his burns been 3rd degree, he would have likely required skin grafts to cover his scalp and his hair would not have grown back in. From all I’ve read about this incident I don’t recall it ever being suggested that he needed or had any grafts. I could be wrong, however.
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Interesting
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>:( jealousy ...jealousy......... :( ::) bearhug ...... I joke ;D :) ...
Very interesting !!! Thanks Purelove !!! ::P mj_dance/
moonwalk_/
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I can not help but remembering the bad BJ who said MJ hoaxed his entire life. A pretty daring statement.
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When I was shadowing a doctor there was a man who had been completely scalped all the way to his skull and he had surgery to sew his scalp back on and was released the day after his surgery. She said that scalp injuries are the fastest to heal and that there is hardly any scarring. While still painful, the pain isn't as chronic as other injuries and doesn't last as long. So it's still possible that the accident could have occurred in my opinion.
That's a different wound, that's a tearing wound. The reason scalps heal from tearing wounds quickly is because there is excellent blood flow to the scalp and it's in an immobile part of the body, the scalp does not bend and flex so the repairing tissues are not subject to stress.
Burns are a whole different species. A burn of the magnitude in that photograph should have kept him in the hospital for longer then 24hrs. He reportedly needed multiple reconstructive scalp surgeries and remained addicted to painkillers (Demerol) for over a decade later from this injury.
I'm just saying. Maybe it was an accident. Maybe not. If it was a hoax, that was one amazing illusion.
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I can not help but remembering the bad BJ who said MJ hoaxed his entire life. A pretty daring statement.
We been saying that since '09 Gina.
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I can not help but remembering the bad BJ who said MJ hoaxed his entire life. A pretty daring statement.
We been saying that since '09 Gina.
Maybe, but I only saw it when BJ said it.
Anyway, isn't it a bit too much to say that Michael hoaxed his entire life?
In this case everything in his life is a lie or what?
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Anyway, if his marriage with Lisa was a hoax, I am dissapointed. I was sure he loved her very much. Just pretending to love her? I don't think so.
Well, but love and marriage don't always go together.
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I can not help but remembering the bad BJ who said MJ hoaxed his entire life. A pretty daring statement.
We been saying that since '09 Gina.
Maybe, but I only saw it when BJ said it.
Anyway, isn't it a bit too much to say that Michael hoaxed his entire life?
In this case everything in his life is a lie or what?
No maybe. Yes certainly.
And no I don't think it's a bit much. I think it's very credible. MJ is the ultimate showman and a Barnum disciple and knows how to manipulate the media for his own gain and has a 25 years track record of doing so. The notion of his entire public life being scripted goes hand in hand with what we know of the man.
This theory was very controversial when first brought up in the fall of 2009. It really sort of drew the lines between believer camps. I always thought the theory had merit.
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If Michael marry or not you will know why he did so
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Why did Back have such utter and complete confidence in everything working out just fine all through the trials? He could have been in jail for years to face criminals who torture/rape/murder child molesters. MJ always vocally despised the media for printing lies, yet he put some in himself (not admitting it publicly). It's the going along with the hoax and showing emotions of anger, tears, dispare etc. that makes it confusing as to what is hoaxed and set up, and what is truly happening TO him that is out of his control. The lines are very blurred for me, the longer I'm in this hoax.
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Why did Back have such utter and complete confidence in everything working out just fine all through the trials? He could have been in jail for years to face criminals who torture/rape/murder child molesters. MJ always vocally despised the media for printing lies, yet he put some in himself (not admitting it publicly). It's the going along with the hoax and showing emotions of anger, tears, dispare etc. that makes it confusing as to what is hoaxed and set up, and what is truly happening TO him that is out of his control. The lines are very blurred for me, the longer I'm in this hoax.
The implications of what you said exactly, is something that fascinates and captivates me.
I DO believe it is entirely possible that MJ set that whole thing up, as an act of defiance, with confidence, BECAUSE he went into court holding a wild card.
What that wild card is I only dare to speculate. But I believe back refers to it in his famous post-mortum 2 Kings post...
Do ya knows what I means?
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@bec I'm a little confused...do you think he hoaxed the trial and the allegations? Can you explain why you think his purpose would be in doing that please?
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@Michael'sAngel, no that's not what I think. It's too off topic anymore to explain here.
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humm what other iconic kiss can you think of? :D
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392240/mysterious-girl-in-iconic-elvis-photo-finally-identified (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392240/mysterious-girl-in-iconic-elvis-photo-finally-identified)
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humm what other iconic kiss can you think of? :D
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392240/mysterious-girl-in-iconic-elvis-photo-finally-identified (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392240/mysterious-girl-in-iconic-elvis-photo-finally-identified)
Oh wow that's the first I had heard of that. Thanks for posting.
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humm what other iconic kiss can you think of? :D
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392240/mysterious-girl-in-iconic-elvis-photo-finally-identified (http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/stopthepresses/392240/mysterious-girl-in-iconic-elvis-photo-finally-identified)
Yuck, sorry, but that was gross!
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first time i ever heard of it either. timing seems kind of intriguing.
yes curls it is kinda gross. guess the good old days were not as tame as we think they were.
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I like this iconic kiss much better!
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10500000/the-kiss-michael-jackson-and-lisa-marie-10578119-292-400.jpg)
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I've never seen this before and WOW! They found really very interesting things. Now this explains why all of the names were wrong in the marriage certificate. Plus Michael's name. It was written as Michael JOSEPH Jackson.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLjjFaawdrg&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
Thank you for this video PureLove,wow very rare!!!!
If we all agree this was wow ,then please watch part 2 , afraid/ ,OMG !!!
The Greatest Show On Earth - More than 1 hoax? Part 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU8qe4zbUyo&feature=related[/youtube]
Lisa went after Michael begging to take her back,we already know this because Michael told Boteach.
We all remember the confusion about Katherine Jackson being on June 26, 2010 at the Beverly Hilton Hotel for the presentation of her book:Never can say goodbye.In in the end we find out she was in another place ,lol 8-)and that place is Encino :o .LIES, LIES AND MORE LIES.
The reason I bring this subject is because I want to tell once and for all what I think about THE PLACE where the interview with Oprah and Lisa was in fact. I think the real place was NEVERLAND not ENGLAND :shock: .Pay attention to the video above,starting with 7:39.Lisa says she was in England when she find out Michael died ::) .But isn't England the place where she is supposed to be in that moment,giving a interview to Oprah ?If that was the truth she had to say :
I WAS HERE ,IN ENGLAND,no????? :? 8-) .The reason I say all this is because I kept this in me for a long time,and now I had to do it.Some people will say Im crazy but after watching many ,many videos of Neverland I know for sure that place is not England !!!!!!
LOVE
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I believe that the interview was in England. The windows are not the same as the ones at Neverland. They have diffretn features and the water is not that close to the house as it is in the video.
However at the England house the water is as close and the shape of the room is also the right shape.
(http://photos.elvispresleymusic.com.au/images/lisa_marie/lisa_maries_uk_home_from_the_air_large.jpg)
(http://photos.elvispresleymusic.com.au/images/lisa_marie/lisa_maries_uk_home_from_the_air_large.jpg (http://photos.elvispresleymusic.com.au/images/lisa_marie/lisa_maries_uk_home_from_the_air_large.jpg))
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/lisa-marie-presleys-house-2/view/?service=0 (http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/lisa-marie-presleys-house-2/view/?service=0)
looking close enough you can eves see the stairs on hte outside of the window (seen in the video), you see this if you soom in at the lake in the picture. typing/
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I like this iconic kiss much better!
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10500000/the-kiss-michael-jackson-and-lisa-marie-10578119-292-400.jpg)
This one is controversial.
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That kiss always looked awkward to me.
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I can not help but remembering the bad BJ who said MJ hoaxed his entire life. A pretty daring statement.
We been saying that since '09 Gina.
Maybe, but I only saw it when BJ said it.
Anyway, isn't it a bit too much to say that Michael hoaxed his entire life?
In this case everything in his life is a lie or what?
No maybe. Yes certainly.
And no I don't think it's a bit much. I think it's very credible. MJ is the ultimate showman and a Barnum disciple and knows how to manipulate the media for his own gain and has a 25 years track record of doing so. The notion of his entire public life being scripted goes hand in hand with what we know of the man.
This theory was very controversial when first brought up in the fall of 2009. It really sort of drew the lines between believer camps. I always thought the theory had merit.
Life is a stage :)
What we all perceive to be real almost never is...at least not completely. How many people let the government and the news rule their life? In a way, life is one big hoax, one big illusion, no matter who you are. It's all about finding your own truth.
People believed all the bs lies reported about MJ his whole life so I see nothing wrong with him taking matters into his own hands and giving them something to talk about. He was in a position to use his understanding of how the world works to teach us all a few things while wildly entertaining us at the same time.
"Artists use lies to tell the truth, politicians use lies to cover up the truth" - V for Vendetta
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That kiss always looked awkward to me.
If it is true, I am uncomfortable part of she
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ELVIS would have been against the marriage because he is a racist. [...]
:shock: :roll: Oh my! You are so wrong on this subject. The TRUTH is exactly the other way round!!!
Elvis grew up among black kids, he learned to play guitar from them, he's got his love for gospel music from the black community he lived in! Along his whole life he had many black friends, amongst which the most famous James Brown and Muhammad Ali. Elvis was no racist! stop believing in rumors! Instead read what his famous black friends said about him! Check out these quotes:
1. Little Richard: "Elvis was an integrator. Elvis was a blessing. They wouldn’t let Black music through. He opened the door for Black music."
2. Cissy Houston: "Elvis loved gospel music. He was raised on it. He was singing Gospel all the time – almost anything he did had that flavour. You can’t get away from what your roots are."
3. Sammy Davis Jnr.: "I have a respect for Elvis and my friendship. It ain’t my business what he did in private. The only thing I want to know is, ‘Was he my friend?’, ‘Did I enjoy him as a performer?’, ‘Did he give the world of entertainment something?’ - and the answer is YES on all accounts. The other jazz just don’t matter."
4. B.B King:"I knew Elvis before he was popular. He used to come around and be around us a lot. I can remember once or twice when we met down at Club Handy on Beale Street. Elvis at heart was very religious and I think that throughout his career he couldn’t help but let it come out & you can hear it."
5. Muhammad Ali Talking About Elvis Presley - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNUxHqYJm-I
- ALI & ELVIS: "The Greatest & The King" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhIW9ijQbDU
6. Another of Elvis’ friends James Brown is re-known for having an incredibly strong personality, supporting the struggle for Black Rights, and someone who wouldn't take any racist bullshit off anyone he met.
Coincidentally James Brown was charting with ‘Say it Loud, I'm Black & I'm Proud’ at the same time Elvis was recording 'In The Ghetto'. There would be no chance of James Brown spending anytime with Elvis had he shown any racist tendencies and they stayed friendly acquaintances throughout the years.
James Brown: - "I wasn’t just a fan, I was his brother. I love him and hope to see him in heaven. There’ll never be another like that soul brother." - "We were friends for a long time, for twenty years. And he told me, he’d ride around Memphis around the streets he’d come up in, all alone at night. Ride around on his motorcycle when he was sure the rest of the world was asleep, just kind of hauntin’ them places he hung around in as a kid. He was a country boy."
7. Ernest Withers: "Elvis was a great man and did more for civil rights than people know. To call him a racist is an insult to us all." Ernest also commented on Elvis' sincere politeness to people he would meet. "I saw and heard him addressed everyone as 'Sir' and 'Maam', the people in the hardware store or someone like me, whoever."
- "I have heard reporters ask Elvis 'Why? Why do you say 'Yes, sir' to those stupid nig***s?' and Elvis would say to them 'Cause they're humans too.' He just was respectful to all people, and not just because they were older than him, cause that's what you're supposed to do. He had respect for people and he had respect for black people."
- "I could relate and talk to Elvis easier than even the Civil Rights activists because I was his age and he was more even tempered. Elvis would come to the black events and the Goodwill Review, but officially, he was not able to actually be part of it because of the segregation laws and things at the time. He would still come though." This was during a time when the established order was unconcerned if a white man was dismissive of a black man, but the civil rights photographer was impressed with young Elvis and remembers him with great fondness. Withers saw something totally different in Elvis to other white people in Memphis at that time. - "Elvis was very fond of Walter Culpepper who ran a barbecue shop on Hernando Street." Elvis always referred to the black proprietor as "Mr. Culpepper." Withers says, "I overheard one of Elvis' friends at the time ask Elvis 'Why do you call him 'mister' -- he's just a barbecue guy?' Elvis looked at him and said 'He's a man.' "
*** Martin Luther King’s ‘I Have A Dream’ was a favourite rhetorical speech that Elvis had memorised and would often repeat over the years. Elvis was extremely shocked when on April 4th 1968 Martin Luther King was assassinated in his own hometown. The compassion Elvis felt would lead to the inspired performance that Elvis used in his own ‘If I Can Dream’ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw8lq16e_6o&list=FLkC6Y4ea25ltNSLkO1ZDE-Q&index=23&feature=plpp as the closing number of his ‘Comeback Special.’
The black struggles following Martin Luther King’s assassination created strong racial boundaries especially in Memphis and the South. Politically and racially 1969 was a very sensitive period. However Elvis had always felt strongly about social injustice (as shown by his private donations to charities) and there is no doubt that his recording of ‘In The Ghetto’ was Elvis’ way of saying which side he sympathised for.
source: http://www.tonkoorevaar.be/Always-Elvis-2/biografie/elvis-was-no-racist.htm
ON TOPIC:
Michael & Lisa ~ The SECRET! (My theory)
- part I - http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=199925473397811
- part II - http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=199930060064019
- part III - http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=199934603396898
VIDEO - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ll3Je-xbs&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
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Thanks for posting SimPattyK! Thats a great read on Mr. Presley ;)
My mom is a huge fan of Elvis
And she wanted to marry MJ in the 70's lol.
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Thank you ;)
ON TOPIC:
Michael & Lisa ~ The SECRET! (My theory)
- part I - http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=199925473397811
- part II - http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=199930060064019
- part III - http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=199934603396898
VIDEO - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8ll3Je-xbs&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
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It is very long your theory, I don't have time to read it all but I agree he seemed so much in love with Lisa and he looked the best when he was with her. I see no reason for why Lisa wouldn't have loved him very much.
I always felt sorry they were not together anymore, no matter how jealous I was, I felt sorry, so sorry for Michael.
But if, like you say, they had a hoax divorce - what about Lisa's marriage after divorcing Michael?
Was that a hoax marriage ? And what about her children?
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It is very long your theory,
lol
Of course. The hoax is long, too. We can't even imagine for how long it lasts ...
To resume it in a few lines... it's useless...and it would leave people with many questions, just like you have...
[...]I don't have time to read it all [...]
When you'll have time to read it all, you'll find the answers to your questions below.
In part III of my theory I put only links, for an extensive research, for those who are interested...
[...]But if, like you say, they had a hoax divorce - what about Lisa's marriage after divorcing Michael?
Was that a hoax marriage ? And what about her children?
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@SimPattyK - Let's not forget that she also married Nicolas Cage too.
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@SimPattyK - Let's not forget that she also married Nicolas Cage too.
lol ... You see, I consider it just another "episode" of the long hoax-saga ;)
They're good actors though, both of them ! ;)
But that's just my opinion/theory.... maybe I'm wrong!
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If we believe all the theories, he's married to Lisa, to Diana, to Grace and also to all those nutcracker fans who think they married him. He gotta lotta chickas! :lol:
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lol yeah... maybe there are other theories too..I don't know about them.
But I believe in this theory especially because a lot of bizarre things, 'coincidences' and clues that led me to it.
For example, these 2 videos made me think a lot!
1. Michael Jackson death hoax OPRAH CLUES P1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcSYoL1d33c
2. TMP - The Bashir Code: Phase VI Continued 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5OSs0lxejs
Also this article , clearly indicating to the fact that there was/is a lot of mystery surrounding their relationship/marriage... and that they did hide things from the public under varous version-stories...
"When did they begin to date? Was their relationship longer than We know?' - http://www.facebook.com/notes/little-house-of-a-true-love-story/when-did-they-begin-to-date-was-their-relationship-longer-than-we-know/154724234558638
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6119/mjlisahoaxoprahintervie.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/545/mjlisahoaxoprahintervie.jpg/)
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LMP appears to be one soul getting Michael as to his art.
I think the pictures are speaking for themselves. (1994, Budapest)
Photographs by Gottfried Helnwein, well known as performance artist in the shock art movement.
http://danskmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Mj-done1.jpg (http://danskmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Mj-done1.jpg)
http://danskmagazine.com/fashiontheory/michael-we-miss-you/#respond (http://danskmagazine.com/fashiontheory/michael-we-miss-you/#respond)
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Lovely article (http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Amour/coeur_rose.gif)
Thanks for sharing , Grace ;)