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Title: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 13, 2011, 09:49:18 AM
MJ'S KIDS
We're Going To the Tribute Concert
DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes

8/13/2011 12:55 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

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Michael Jackson's children have decided they want to fly to Wales to catch the upcoming MJ Tribute Concert in person ... despite the fact they're getting pushback from two of their famous uncles.

An MJ family rep tells us, "Paris, Blanket and Prince have been asked to attend the MJ Tribute in Wales and they have decided to go."

The rep adds, "They are extremely excited and they're hoping they will have the opportunity to contribute in some way by making a speech.  Nothing has been set in stone yet for how they can help, but they really hope they can. "

However, we're told, "Jermaine and Randy are fighting it."

As TMZ previously reported, the two brothers feel the timing of the tribute is "inappropriate" -- explaining, "We find it impossible to support an event that is due to take place during the criminal trial surrounding Michael's death."
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: paula-c on August 13, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
that can make Jermaine and Randy if Katherine have "temporary" custody of the children and she is the  to decide ???/
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on August 13, 2011, 05:06:56 PM
Why don't they want the children to attend? Something fishy is going on.. If the children know it is a hoax what difference does it make if they want to go? Is it because Michael will come out and they are afraid of the riots or I should say chaos it will cause? This is just a suggestion. I still don't find it too kosher for the uncles not to want the children at the tribute. Plus they have no say.. Katherine is the guardian not them.
Blessings,.
 
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 13, 2011, 05:13:03 PM
The kids know it's a hoax, I am 100% sure about that. And I really don't think anyone is going to bam on that tribute, IF it will ever take place.

I noticed that TMZ put the article on top again. I wonder why?
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: PureLove on August 13, 2011, 05:58:45 PM
They're going to make a speech?... hmmm I wonder what they will say.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on August 13, 2011, 09:21:30 PM
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The kids know it's a hoax, I am 100% sure about that. And I really don't think anyone is going to bam on that tribute, IF it will ever take place.

I noticed that TMZ put the article on top again. I wonder why?

Souza, you are so convinced he will not Bam.. It could be, but like I said in my post  it was jus a suggestion, I am still not totally convinced about this.. If you have anything to back up your conviction please share it with us.. This tribute can go either way. He can bam as he won't bam. The question is why does Jermaine and Randy prohibit the children to go? It does not make sense. blessings.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: Andrea on August 13, 2011, 09:29:49 PM
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The question is why does Jermaine and Randy prohibit the children to go? It does not make sense. blessings.

Because Michael LIVES for controversy.   ;)   Generates more attention and interest.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: ~Souza~ on August 13, 2011, 09:35:18 PM
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The kids know it's a hoax, I am 100% sure about that. And I really don't think anyone is going to bam on that tribute, IF it will ever take place.

I noticed that TMZ put the article on top again. I wonder why?

Souza, you are so convinced he will not Bam.. It could be, but like I said in my post  it was jus a suggestion, I am still not totally convinced about this.. If you have anything to back up your conviction please share it with us.. This tribute can go either way. He can bam as he won't bam. The question is why does Jermaine and Randy prohibit the children to go? It does not make sense. blessings.

I already explained, but I can do it again if you want: someone that wore bullet proof vests and was afraid he would be assasinated on stage, will not bam on stage, I simply don't believe that. In my book it makes no sense at all to bam on that tribute. Plus I still think that the tribute will be cancelled.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on August 13, 2011, 10:03:27 PM
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The kids know it's a hoax, I am 100% sure about that. And I really don't think anyone is going to bam on that tribute, IF it will ever take place.

I noticed that TMZ put the article on top again. I wonder why?

Souza, you are so convinced he will not Bam.. It could be, but like I said in my post  it was jus a suggestion, I am still not totally convinced about this.. If you have anything to back up your conviction please share it with us.. This tribute can go either way. He can bam as he won't bam. The question is why does Jermaine and Randy prohibit the children to go? It does not make sense. blessings.

I already explained, but I can do it again if you want: someone that wore bullet proof vests and was afraid he would be assasinated on stage, will not bam on stage, I simply don't believe that. In my book it makes no sense at all to bam on that tribute. Plus I still think that the tribute will be cancelled.

it makes sense.. thank you for explaining.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: 2good2btrue on August 13, 2011, 10:13:11 PM
Jermaine and Randy are the clue....What's been going on with them lately??  Whats been in the News about them??? 

This tribute is a distraction from the court case.  There is a reason for that.  While the world is tuning into the trial of Dr Conrad Murray, convicted of the manslaughter of Michael Jackson, the rest of the family and children are celebrating the
life of MJ..

To me, that says it all.... 


Contraversey, and attention.  Will the rest of the world buy it! 

If we go back in time, back to the 2005 trials, wasn't there biased distractions from Oprah Winfrey, and the media as well.  Maybe this is just the correlation between them both.

I don't think there will be a BAM on this day, and I strongly believe that MJ will BAM through via the internet.  God bless  ( and now back to my studies)  bearhug bearhug
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 13, 2011, 10:34:29 PM
Of course the children know, auntie LaToya made sre of that at UCLA  lolol/

And Souza, that’s exactly what I think in response to Michael showing up on stage at a concert. 
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: Chinbie on August 13, 2011, 11:35:11 PM
yes i do think mj will not bam on that tribute concert becoz it will be dangerous! mj_bad/
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: onthewingsoflove on August 14, 2011, 03:32:31 AM
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The question is why does Jermaine and Randy prohibit the children to go? It does not make sense. blessings.

Because Michael LIVES for controversy.   ;)   Generates more attention and interest.

[blink]BINGO!!!![/blink]
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: 2 Bad on August 14, 2011, 04:17:11 AM
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I already explained, but I can do it again if you want: someone that wore bullet proof vests and was afraid he would be assasinated on stage, will not bam on stage, I simply don't believe that. In my book it makes no sense at all to bam on that tribute. Plus I still think that the tribute will be cancelled.

I'm going to agree with you Souza. The threats are a big part of this and I don't see a BAM on stage either. Too dangerous.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: reveron1958 on August 14, 2011, 04:52:32 AM
I'm confused.

Do you think there will be snipers in the audience waiting just in case he BAMS?  :?

Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: Grace on August 14, 2011, 05:03:21 AM
Now that's interesting:
the title of the link to the TMZ article says this on search engines:

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MJ's Kids to ATTEND Tribute Concert In Wales | TMZ.com
http://addon.100searchengines.com/texis/open/search?q=MJ%27S+KIDS+We%27re+Going+To+the+Tribute+Concert+DESPITE+Jermaine%27s+Wishes (http://addon.100searchengines.com/texis/open/search?q=MJ%27S+KIDS+We%27re+Going+To+the+Tribute+Concert+DESPITE+Jermaine%27s+Wishes)


whereas the title of the article itself says this:

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MJ's KIDS Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/13/michael-jackson-kids-tribute-concert-wales-paris-blanket-prince-jermaine-randy-uncle-mj/ (http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/13/michael-jackson-kids-tribute-concert-wales-paris-blanket-prince-jermaine-randy-uncle-mj/)


OK, here we go:

"Attend"
we can understand, right?
Profanely: participate, put your eyes on, be there, do it, take care of; in French: wait.

"Kids" - children, young goats, goat skins, to kid someone - well...

"Despite" -
Quote
de·spite (d(http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gif)-sp(http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/imacr.gif)t(http://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gif))prep. In spite of; notwithstanding: won the game despite overwhelming odds.n.1. Contemptuous defiance or disregard.2. Spite; malice: "He died soon after . . . of pure despite and vexation" (Sir Walter Scott).
despite[dɪˈspaɪt]prep in spite of; undeterred byn1. Archaic contempt; insult
in despite of (preposition) Rare in spite ofvb (tr) an archaic word for spite (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spite)[from Old French despit, from Latin dēspectus contempt; see despise]
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/despite (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/despite)

"Despectus"
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LatinNoun dēspectus (genitive dēspectūs); m, fourth declension
 
  • prospect, panorama (view from above)
  • spectacle (object of contempt)
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/despectus (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/despectus)


In short:
Watch out for the spectacle executed by the children - and it may be fun.

I have no doubt about this.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: jadz29858 on August 14, 2011, 09:27:03 AM
Could this also be a distraction for the real return od MJ at "crique du soliel"? The show opens around the same time????
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: Mish1981 on August 14, 2011, 02:35:53 PM
I don't think MJ will appear at the tribute either. I think that when he decides the time is right the whole world is going to know it at once, not just revealed to those that go to the show or through the live feed. I also don't think it's going to be associated with any performance. If he were to do that it wouldn't be taken seriously and it would give the wrong impression on why the hoax actually had to happen.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 14, 2011, 03:32:07 PM
I guess I feel differently on the bam theory than most people.  I don’t feel he is going to bam.  I don’t think he ever wants to be the center of attention again and his comeback will be without celebration.  However, what ever it is that he plans to do as the new Michael I believe will be something that will be very phenomenal and important, some kind of worldwide break through, with the main focus being on the deed and not the person behind it.  He might even be anonymous and using an alias.  But people on one accord with Michael and who know Michael Jackson’s work will recognize it and know, he’s Back.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: Sarahli on August 14, 2011, 03:47:39 PM
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I don't think MJ will appear at the tribute either. I think that when he decides the time is right the whole world is going to know it at once, not just revealed to those that go to the show or through the live feed. I also don't think it's going to be associated with any performance. If he were to do that it wouldn't be taken seriously and it would give the wrong impression on why the hoax actually had to happen.

I agree with you Mish...though I don't doubt that after the explanations there are going to be celebrations  :D
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: Mish1981 on August 14, 2011, 05:19:59 PM
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I don't think MJ will appear at the tribute either. I think that when he decides the time is right the whole world is going to know it at once, not just revealed to those that go to the show or through the live feed. I also don't think it's going to be associated with any performance. If he were to do that it wouldn't be taken seriously and it would give the wrong impression on why the hoax actually had to happen.

I agree with you Mish...though I don't doubt that after the explanations there are going to be celebrations  :D

I agree
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: PureLove on August 14, 2011, 07:01:04 PM
I don't believe he will BAM at the tribute not just becoz of safety issues but also the time is not right imo. The trial needs to end first. The trail doesn't even need to happen BUT it will happen, I can see it so clearly in the script. The tribute is also not a very appropriate place to BAM. I don't see the BAM happens on a stage in a showlike thing. That would be very inappropriate and disrespectful for the fans and the entire world who have been mourning for his "death". I believe that there will be a conference which is also going to be safer for him and it can be watched by everyone at the same time on tv or internet.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: suspicious mind on August 14, 2011, 08:55:03 PM
still stands out to me more these two being on the same page.  can't put my finger on it.  by the way where exactly does it say that they don't want the kids to go or even know that they are going for that matter?
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: BeTheChange on August 14, 2011, 10:39:25 PM
I think I've seen and heard enough to believe that Mike's whole family knows about the hoax.  If you believe if it's hoax, then it's pretty clear by now that this is huge...on a whole other level than anything we've ever experienced on a global scale (at least that's the level of importance that I believe Mike places it on).  I just can't see him leaving anyone in his family out of something this important to him.  Despite their issues, arguments, fights, and even public jabs at each other over the years, when Mike was at the lowest point of his life...every single one of them was there for him and he didn't turn one of them away (which, apart from just being wrong, is a HUGE reason IMO why no one should judge Mike's family).  So...are Jermaine and Randy really putting up a 'fight' over the kids attending the tribute...or are they following script?
 
There's been very interesting connections (I think we can stop calling them coincidences)....uncovered about the timing and place of the tribute, that make me believe, more and more, that it is also part of the script.  What will happen at the tribute or whether it will happen at all...is purely speculation at best.
 
At this point, I probably wouldn't bet on the BAM happening at the tribute.  When I think about Mike's first public appearance, I don't ever imagine it to be him popping out onto a stage.  That's not to say Mike wouldn't do it...he is 'the man' afterall  8-) ...but like Souza and others said, there would be safety issues, not to mention probably a lot of pressure and stress for Mike.  But if he does decide to BAM at the tribute...I'm sure Mike's creativity will allow him to do so safely.  And if you think about it...this tribute would be a huge platform for any message(s) he wishes to convey...especially if it will be broadbast live around the world.  He wouldn't have to be appear live on the stage...he could be like our 'friend' V and talk to the world through a screen...only, in this case, a live feed.  I wouldn't put it past Mike to appear live through a hologram and say what he has to say...while in the comfort of some undisclosed location. 
 
Again, I probably wouldn't bet on a tribute BAM but imagination sure is a fantastical thing. Any fantastic 'script'...is fantastic because of it's beginning, it's middle, and it's end.  Mike may not BAM at the tribute...but, for those who have been following the script, I have a feeling that Mike will end the script with a bang!...whenever he decides to end it (only to begin another?).  And as much as I can see a press conference type BAM...a tribute 'appearance' is much more pleasing to the imagination.
 
With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: suspicious mind on August 14, 2011, 11:12:29 PM
this story still has much more time to evolve.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: MJonmind on August 15, 2011, 01:30:03 AM
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2good2btrue
I strongly believe that MJ will BAM through via the internet.
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Hesouttamylife
I guess I feel differently on the bam theory than most people.  I don’t feel he is going to bam.  I don’t think he ever wants to be the center of attention again and his comeback will be without celebration.  However, what ever it is that he plans to do as the new Michael I believe will be something that will be very phenomenal and important, some kind of worldwide break through, with the main focus being on the deed and not the person behind it.  He might even be anonymous and using an alias.  But people on one accord with Michael and who know Michael Jackson’s work will recognize it and know, he’s Back.
I think these are both very good possibilities that I’m not ruling out. It will be something worldwide for everyone to see in a spectacular way (possibly holographic),  and will catch people off guard so much so that people will be speechless in their ridiculing and criticizing him.
I think the 3 kids are going to steal the tribute show just like the Memorial and the 2010 Grammys where they spoke. And I don’t think that will be bam.

I agree that there is still more that needs to happen in the hoax, ARG, etc. such as the trial and more battles to be won.  michael-jackson/
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: bec on August 15, 2011, 09:16:09 AM
I don't believe there to be safety issues regarding a return on stage, I just don't think it is on large enough scale for the magnitude of a BAM.

If it actually happens, it is exactly a hoax of a hoax, or a fake of a fake, which is what Barnum's Cardiff Giant was. This is what the clues tell us. How it will be a hoax (fake) remains to be seen. I thought the hoax of the hoax was that it was a hoax (fake) tribute for a hoax (fake) death meaning the tribute wouldn't ever happen. A hoaxed tribute means one that is fake or staged. I suppose a staged tribute might actually occur...?

It's hard to predict (could play out as a fake in a few different ways) and recent developments make me doubt my initial instincts that it would be canceled, thus be a (fake) hoax. I suppose I should have more faith in myself at this juncture, but man! Michael sure has ways of messing with his audience.

A BAM on stage would make this Tribute be a hoax. A tribute to a deceased does not include having the deceased live on stage and thus would create the hoax of the hoax... I just have a feeling this won't be the case.

We have to do court!
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: CC on August 15, 2011, 01:01:38 PM
he can just appear on video tape reading the headline of some "magazzine" of that day or something like that, then they will say is not him and all that (for sure) LOL
 mj_bad/
I love controversy like MJ, that moment in HIStory will be AWSOME!
NOBODY will believe is him LOL
 lolol/
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: a18wheelslady on August 15, 2011, 03:52:13 PM
I just had a strange thought.
Could this be that the tribute is being set up as a deterrent?
From what I understand the trial is scheduled for the same time.
Could Michael be coming in as a witness at the trial?
It’s going to be televised.
I know which one I would be watching given the choice and it would be the trial.
not sure if either one of them will happen.

Love You More
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: hesouttamylife on August 15, 2011, 04:04:58 PM
If the tribute happens, I feel it’s being done as a catalyst to get people’s minds back on Michael and the wonderful artist/person he was/is.  Some folk have become complacent and out right forgotten about it.  Just today I was mentioning to a co-worker that Michael’s birthday is this month.  Her response was oh yeah, did they ever finish the trial thing?  I was like no, it hasn’t started yet.  That spoke volumes. 

There’s only one show, one day, how much can that detract from the case.  If anything it will bring more attention to it and rev up support for Michael in the process.  In hindsight, perhaps the tribute show at the time of the trial is the right on thing to do.  Just please don’t entertain the idea of having Kiss perform.  Or who knows, maybe that controversy is also purposeful.  It will certainly remind people of how cruel and unfair Michael was treated.  bearhug  It’s already stirred up the internet.
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: blankie on August 15, 2011, 04:48:52 PM
I think that the tribute is a message of Mike for all love him...he say...wait...I am here with you....

Only this ...The BAM is still a long way...Mike must understand who are the people he can trust....Mike is working !!!! :) lolol/ michael-jackson/






 moonwalk_/
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: skyways on August 16, 2011, 12:26:45 AM
Agree with  hesouttamylife and a18wheels!   About Kiss performer - its could be the message '' mersy over justice'' instead of '' eye for eye '' , even in my heart i am 1 to kill that Kiss 4 his devilish accusation!  And for the  trail - Michael as a last mysterious witness to stand and change fate of a man also wl b very dramatic move and fit 2 the concept@@ Take care. 
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: Datroot on August 16, 2011, 12:30:55 PM
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I guess I feel differently on the bam theory than most people.  I don’t feel he is going to bam.  I don’t think he ever wants to be the center of attention again and his comeback will be without celebration.  However, what ever it is that he plans to do as the new Michael I believe will be something that will be very phenomenal and important, some kind of worldwide break through, with the main focus being on the deed and not the person behind it.  He might even be anonymous and using an alias.  But people on one accord with Michael and who know Michael Jackson’s work will recognize it and know, he’s Back.
Absolutely!! ;D
Title: Re: MJ'S KIDS: We're Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes
Post by: MJonmind on August 16, 2011, 04:33:50 PM
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If the tribute happens, I feel it’s being done as a catalyst to get people’s minds back on Michael and the wonderful artist/person he was/is.  Some folk have become complacent and out right forgotten about it.  Just today I was mentioning to a co-worker that Michael’s birthday is this month.  Her response was oh yeah, did they ever finish the trial thing?  I was like no, it hasn’t started yet.  That spoke volumes. 

There’s only one show, one day, how much can that detract from the case.  If anything it will bring more attention to it and rev up support for Michael in the process.  In hindsight, perhaps the tribute show at the time of the trial is the right on thing to do.  Just please don’t entertain the idea of having Kiss perform.  Or who knows, maybe that controversy is also purposeful.  It will certainly remind people of how cruel and unfair Michael was treated.  bearhug  It’s already stirred up the internet.
When someone in my dance class complained last year about always hearing about Michael Jackson on the news saying, "Who cares!", I said I do, and she did a 'doink' on my forehead and said, "What are you thinking?", like I'm crazy.  I said, "He was totally framed." Sometimes people have to be forced to address whether the media is telling the truth by ramming it in their distracted know-it-all faces until they take a second look into it. I think that's what MJ is doing with TMZ, the one others follow.
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