Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => Multimedia => General Hoax Investigation => Twitter ~ Verified Accounts => Topic started by: bec on August 30, 2011, 12:49:36 AM
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latoyajackson 20 hours 57 mins ago Twitter
On MJ's 53rd birthday I'd like to share a personal photo of MJ's last birthday dinner with my family on August 30, 2004. http://yfrog.com/h0su2tjj
This is the pic:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/2004jacksonfam.jpg)
This pic is interesting. Latoya says its from 2004 and that makes it interesting for 2 reasons. First, it is supposed to be taken at a birthday dinner for Michael yet his children are not in the photo. Second, we can clearly see 3 bottles of Figi water on the table to the left, with their labels faced.
The Fiji water is the source of the conundrum. We are left with just a few ways to explain it's appearance in this pic.
:arrow:One interpretation could be the Jackson family simply has long had an affinity for Fiji water, of which Michael also shares, and they have always had it supplied in any situation calling for bottled water. If this is our answer, we now know that the label facing is just a coincidence and the whole Fiji water-Barnum connection that is nearly as old as the hoax itself, has just been our imagination...
:!:Remember, in order for us to consider the Fiji water irrelevant here, we would also have to accept that the Fiji water is irrelevant in at least these three prior instances:
- death bed pic in the Weekly World News
- tii backstage footage
- tribute press conference
If you reject that each appearance of a Fiji water bottle in this hoax was irrelevant, then 2 explanations for this pic remain.
:arrow: One explanation is that 5 years prior to 6/25/09, Michael subtly product placed the Figi water like this at a family function that he knew would likely involve taking photos so they could appear appear 7 years later (posted by Latoya) as a time capsule clue in the hoax,
:arrow: :idea: or this pic is more recent, aka post 6/25 and Latoya lied about the year for obvious reasons. First, because he is supposed to be 2 years dead so it has to be old, and second, because 2004-2011 is 7 years. In the case of this explanation, the children would have to be left out of it so their size did not give away the age of the pic.
If this pic was taken after 6/25/09, then this indeed was a gift from Michael, through Latoya, for us on his birthday.
Nice to think about but in all seriousness, as near as I can understand, its either one or the other: a) the Fiji water is not a Barnum reference/not a clue/irrelevant to the hoax, or b) this pic is a very big deal.
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I didn't know she posted this photo. I don't follow her. I know this photo since time ago and it's not from 2009. Not a long time ago, but I know it. And Mrs. Katherine looks younger.
Indeed, that is Fiji water..
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Michael's hands looks very dark to me.
Maybe he's shopped into this pic, but i could be wrong?
with LOVE
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The red shirt in MJ's left shoulder seem to go too high.
Marlon's not there. Does anyone know who the younger people are?
Joe, katherine and kids all seem younger.
Why cannot Fiji be used by the family a long time, and not be in the hoax? :?
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The red shirt in MJ's left shoulder seem to go too high.
Marlon's not there.
you're right mjonmind the left shoulder really looks to high, maybe marlon stood there on the original pic instead of Michael , because Michael's hands are much more pale in my opinion.
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latoyajackson 20 hours 57 mins ago Twitter
On MJ's 53rd birthday I'd like to share a personal photo of MJ's last birthday dinner with my family on August 30, 2004. http://yfrog.com/h0su2tjj (http://yfrog.com/h0su2tjj)
This is the pic:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/2004jacksonfam.jpg)
This pic is interesting. Latoya says its from 2004 and that makes it interesting for 2 reasons. First, it is supposed to be taken at a birthday dinner for Michael yet his children are not in the photo. Second, we can clearly see 3 bottles of Figi water on the table to the left, with their labels faced.
The Fiji water is the source of the conundrum. We are left with just a few ways to explain it's appearance in this pic.
:arrow:One interpretation could be the Jackson family simply has long had an affinity for Fiji water, of which Michael also shares, and they have always had it supplied in any situation calling for bottled water. If this is our answer, we now know that the label facing is just a coincidence and the whole Fiji water-Barnum connection that is nearly as old as the hoax itself, has just been our imagination...
:!:Remember, in order for us to consider the Fiji water irrelevant here, we would also have to accept that the Fiji water is irrelevant in at least these three prior instances:
- death bed pic in the Weekly World News
- tii backstage footage
- tribute press conference
If you reject that each appearance of a Fiji water bottle in this hoax was irrelevant, then 2 explanations for this pic remain.
:arrow: One explanation is that 5 years prior to 6/25/09, Michael subtly product placed the Figi water like this at a family function that he knew would likely involve taking photos so they could appear appear 7 years later (posted by Latoya) as a time capsule clue in the hoax,
:arrow: :idea: or this pic is more recent, aka post 6/25 and Latoya lied about the year for obvious reasons. First, because he is supposed to be 2 years dead so it has to be old, and second, because 2004-2011 is 7 years. In the case of this explanation, the children would have to be left out of it so their size did not give away the age of the pic.
If this pic was taken after 6/25/09, then this indeed was a gift from Michael, through Latoya, for us on his birthday.
Nice to think about but in all seriousness, as near as I can understand, its either one or the other: a) the Fiji water is not a Barnum reference/not a clue/irrelevant to the hoax, or b) this pic is a very big deal.
May bec, i also remember a family photo i don't know if this would be to seek and do the comparison
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If I remember currectly, Janet was a lot thiner in 2004 than she appears in this photo.
I think it was the year of the superbowl accident.
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Hmmm...
this site says that this dinner was on Aug, 29....
http://mjjtimeline.over-blog.com/5-index.html (http://mjjtimeline.over-blog.com/5-index.html)
August 29 : For his 46th birthday, Michael takes all the Jackson family to the Noe Restaurant at the Omni Hotel of Los Angeles
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The red shirt in MJ's left shoulder seem to go too high.
Marlon's not there. Does anyone know who the younger people are?
Joe, katherine and kids all seem younger.
Why cannot Fiji be used by the family a long time, and not be in the hoax? :?
It can be. That's one of the options I threw out. In that case, Fiji water has never been a clue or a Barnum connection at all and simply a product of our imaginations.
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I think the subtle product placement is a likely explanation. If Michael has had this hoax planned for years, which most of us believe, little clues like this must've tickled him pink at the time they were placed. Innocent and "meaningless" at the time - who would've ever connected a bottle of Fiji water to be anything more than that? So that's pretty awesome if that's the right explanation.
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Jermaine Dupri is in this picture. A month after Michael's 'death', Jermaine and Janet broke up.
This article in the Daily News is interesting. They split after their 7 year relationship.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-07-17/gossip/17928163_1_janet-jackson-jermaine-dupri-michael-jackson (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-07-17/gossip/17928163_1_janet-jackson-jermaine-dupri-michael-jackson)
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Michael's hands looks very dark to me.
Maybe he's shopped into this pic, but i could be wrong?
with LOVE
the hands are the first thing that stood out to me also.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/2004jacksonfam.jpg)
MJ looks older and thinner than he did in 2004. This picture is something else.
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00570/news-graphics-2004-_570043a.jpg)
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Michael's hands looks very dark to me.
Maybe he's shopped into this pic, but i could be wrong?
with LOVE
the hands are the first thing that stood out to me also.
Thank u Suspicious mind for your reply, i'm glad i'm not the only one. :)
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Who is the gentleman right behind Miss Katherine? Perhaps it's his hand we are seeing?
@VeryLittleSusie...great find about Noe restaurant in 2004......still astounded by your art :)
Blessings
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Who is the gentleman right behind Miss Katherine? Perhaps it's his hand we are seeing?
@VeryLittleSusie...great find about Noe restaurant in 2004......still astounded by your art :)
Blessings
Jackie Jackson- The oldest brother
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/2004jacksonfam.jpg)
MJ looks older and thinner than he did in 2004. This picture is something else.
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00570/news-graphics-2004-_570043a.jpg)
TheMoonIsDancing I'm sorry to dissapoint you but BOTH PTHOS are from 2004.The one from Michael's birthday is from "Omni Hotel" in downtown LA,and the other one is from TRIAL 16 january.
I have a picture with Janet,from that event and she is with Dupri ,but the FUNNY thing is that this picture made by Bauer Griffin date is 28 august :lol:.She and him are dressed the same like in the picture with Michael,so who knows ,maybe they had fun 2 days and 2 nights, :lol:,like in fairy tales :lol:.
(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/bg/Michael+Jackson+46th+birthday+9M8ZdoGp0ckl.jpg)
In the celebration of Michael Jackson's 46th birthday the Jackson family meets up for a dinner party at the "Omni Hotel" in downtown LA.
(August 28, 2004 - Photo by Bauer Griffin)
Now talking about that thing regarding OLDER AND THINER,here we go again 8-).I tried to told people over and over again,that there are more than 1 Michael,but they dont want to listen.It's ok,because I already gave up,to try to convince people. I know is hard to believe,even I didnt believe at the begining.I 'm a fan since childwood so if people want to come and say,GET LOST because you "know" Michael from 2009,THEY ARE WRONG :(.I noticed this diferences even in BAD TOUR AND DANGEROUS TOUR.
Here is just to make a comparision betewn 30 april and 16 january 2004 and you will se WHAT I"M TALKING ABOUT HERE 8-) mj_bad/.First are photos from 16 january:
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmp0eneA4a1qb9vkco1_400.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-46.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-38.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-99.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-97.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-96.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-9.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-82.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-81.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-80.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-74.jpg)
Second are photos from 30 april:
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-10.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-108.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-114.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-119.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-135.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-14.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-86.jpg)
And if you want stome videos for comparision also here are from History tour.The way his body looks,the way he walks,and dance are totally diferent.One is almost skinny and the other one is really ,really muscular.Please notest the funny dance Michael is doing in Gothenburg at 2:07 and 3:37 penguin/ :lol:.THIS IS IT orange pants,anyone :shock:?????
Michael Jackson - Blood on the Dance Floor - Live in Munich - HIStory Germany Tour (1997) - HQ
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql1hek8q8-g[/youtube]
Michael Jackson - Blood On The DanceFloor HWT Gothenburg 1997 HD Remastered
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcALFAunRrE&playnext=1&list=PL1714B242BEC5C3E7 [/youtube]
I can go on,like this days and night but that's enough .I LOVE YOU ALL.....I DO ;) :lol:!!!!
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@applehead- Ok, so the pic of Jermaine and Janet make it clear that this pic was indeed taken in 2004. Atleast for me! I'm not completely convinced about the doubles though. In public, yes! Onstage or in family photos, no!
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@applehead- Ok, so the pic of Jermaine and Janet make it clear that this pic was indeed taken in 2004. Atleast for me! I'm not completely convinced about the doubles though. In public, yes! Onstage or in family photos, no!
Agree with you themoon. I think some believers look at things deeper than it is expected, focus so deeply than they need to, and this brings them to wrong conclusions. There's only ONE Michael. NOBODY looks exactly the same in every picture. It depends on the light, the make up, the mood. I do not like it when they call him "orange pants guy" because he is Michael Jackson. No doubles in TII or at 02.
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@applehead- Ok, so the pic of Jermaine and Janet make it clear that this pic was indeed taken in 2004. Atleast for me! I'm not completely convinced about the doubles though. In public, yes! Onstage or in family photos, no!
Agree with you themoon. I think some believers look at things deeper than it is expected, focus so deeply than they need to, and this brings them to wrong conclusions. There's only ONE Michael. NOBODY looks exactly the same in every picture. It depends on the light, the make up, the mood. I do not like it when they call him "orange pants guy" because he is Michael Jackson. No doubles in TII or at 02.
Its possible he used Doubles to confuse the paps. I don't see what the purpose would be for him to use doubles any other time. MJ says he would live on stage if he could. Why would he miss one second of it by using a double?!
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@applehead- Ok, so the pic of Jermaine and Janet make it clear that this pic was indeed taken in 2004. Atleast for me! I'm not completely convinced about the doubles though. In public, yes! Onstage or in family photos, no!
Agree with you themoon. I think some believers look at things deeper than it is expected, focus so deeply than they need to, and this brings them to wrong conclusions. There's only ONE Michael. NOBODY looks exactly the same in every picture. It depends on the light, the make up, the mood. I do not like it when they call him "orange pants guy" because he is Michael Jackson. No doubles in TII or at 02.
So do you call Michael's dad a liar then :lol:?He himself told the fans and the ohers that DOUBLES was used in THIS IS IT :roll:?
And for the RECORD I love Michael ,and of course he is Michael J.Jackson and please stop talking about me as I would be "OUT OF THE ROOM" and in another CAMP CALLED "THEY".I said ORANGE PANTS so that people could understand what I mean.NO OFFENSE ,ok?
I LOVE YOU :)!!!!!
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/fcfbec/2004jacksonfam.jpg)
MJ looks older and thinner than he did in 2004. This picture is something else.
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00570/news-graphics-2004-_570043a.jpg)
TheMoonIsDancing I'm sorry to dissapoint you but BOTH PTHOS are from 2004.The one from Michael's birthday is from "Omni Hotel" in downtown LA,and the other one is from TRIAL 16 january.
I have a picture with Janet,from that event and she is with Dupri ,but the FUNNY thing is that this picture made by Bauer Griffin date is 28 august :lol: .She and him are dressed the same like in the picture with Michael,so who knows ,maybe they had fun 2 days and 2 nights, :lol: ,like in fairy tales :lol: .
(http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/bg/Michael+Jackson+46th+birthday+9M8ZdoGp0ckl.jpg)
In the celebration of Michael Jackson's 46th birthday the Jackson family meets up for a dinner party at the "Omni Hotel" in downtown LA.
(August 28, 2004 - Photo by Bauer Griffin)
Now talking about that thing regarding OLDER AND THINER,here we go again 8-) .I tried to told people over and over again,that there are more than 1 Michael,but they dont want to listen.It's ok,because I already gave up,to try to convince people. I know is hard to believe,even I didnt believe at the begining.I 'm a fan since childwood so if people want to come and say,GET LOST because you "know" Michael from 2009,THEY ARE WRONG :( .I noticed this diferences even in BAD TOUR AND DANGEROUS TOUR.
Here is just to make a comparision betewn 30 april and 16 january 2004 and you will se WHAT I"M TALKING ABOUT HERE 8-) mj_bad/ .First are photos from 16 january:
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmp0eneA4a1qb9vkco1_400.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-46.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-38.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-99.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-97.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-96.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-9.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-82.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-81.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-80.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audiere-michael-jackson(318)-m-74.jpg)
Second are photos from 30 april:
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-10.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-108.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-114.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-119.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-135.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-14.jpg)
(http://en.michaeljackson.ro/photo/audierea-lui-mj-din-santa-maria-california(321)-m-86.jpg)
And if you want stome videos for comparision also here are from History tour.The way his body looks,the way he walks,and dance are totally diferent.One is almost skinny and the other one is really ,really muscular.Please notest the funny dance Michael is doing in Gothenburg at 2:07 and 3:37 penguin/ :lol: .THIS IS IT orange pants,anyone :shock: ?????
Michael Jackson - Blood on the Dance Floor - Live in Munich - HIStory Germany Tour (1997) - HQ
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql1hek8q8-g[/youtube]
Michael Jackson - Blood On The DanceFloor HWT Gothenburg 1997 HD Remastered
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcALFAunRrE&playnext=1&list=PL1714B242BEC5C3E7 [/youtube]
I can go on,like this days and night but that's enough .I LOVE YOU ALL.....I DO ;) :lol: !!!!
Applehead, Michael had impersonators, like Navi, E casanova that replaced him when he did not want to be seen nor wanted to be bothered. Michael did not have no twin brothers. In your own words, why would the mother hide the twin brother ??
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@applehead- Ok, so the pic of Jermaine and Janet make it clear that this pic was indeed taken in 2004. Atleast for me! I'm not completely convinced about the doubles though. In public, yes! Onstage or in family photos, no!
Agree with you themoon. I think some believers look at things deeper than it is expected, focus so deeply than they need to, and this brings them to wrong conclusions. There's only ONE Michael. NOBODY looks exactly the same in every picture. It depends on the light, the make up, the mood. I do not like it when they call him "orange pants guy" because he is Michael Jackson. No doubles in TII or at 02.
Its possible he used Doubles to confuse the paps. I don't see what the purpose would be for him to use doubles any other time. MJ says he would live on stage if he could. Why would he miss one second of it by using a double?!
I was talking about the stage appearance. Yes, he definitely used doubles to confuse paps when he was getting out of a building etc but not on stage, or when he's with his family etc. I totally agree with you. I see only one and the same Michael in TII or at 02 or in the pictures applehead posted.
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@applehead- Ok, so the pic of Jermaine and Janet make it clear that this pic was indeed taken in 2004. Atleast for me! I'm not completely convinced about the doubles though. In public, yes! Onstage or in family photos, no!
Agree with you themoon. I think some believers look at things deeper than it is expected, focus so deeply than they need to, and this brings them to wrong conclusions. There's only ONE Michael. NOBODY looks exactly the same in every picture. It depends on the light, the make up, the mood. I do not like it when they call him "orange pants guy" because he is Michael Jackson. No doubles in TII or at 02.
So do you call Michael's dad a liar then :lol:?He himself told the fans and the ohers that DOUBLES was used in THIS IS IT :roll:?
And for the RECORD I love Michael ,and of course he is Michael J.Jackson and please stop talking about me as I would be "OUT OF THE ROOM" and in another CAMP CALLED "THEY".I said ORANGE PANTS so that people could understand what I mean.NO OFFENSE ,ok?
I LOVE YOU :)!!!!!
Applehead you are NOT the only person who calls him "orange pants guy" and I think I'm free to write in a manner I like to. If I do not want to mention your name, I won't. If you want to take it on yourself, take it.
Second of all, yes MJ's father was doing his part and not telling the truth about the doubles in TII. They did the same for Michael album. It is all to create confusion and controversy. You do not need to roll your eyes just because I disagree with your opinion. Pls try to be polite. You write LOVE all the time but I wish you could have and show it in your posts for real.
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@applehead- Ok, so the pic of Jermaine and Janet make it clear that this pic was indeed taken in 2004. Atleast for me! I'm not completely convinced about the doubles though. In public, yes! Onstage or in family photos, no!
Agree with you themoon. I think some believers look at things deeper than it is expected, focus so deeply than they need to, and this brings them to wrong conclusions. There's only ONE Michael. NOBODY looks exactly the same in every picture. It depends on the light, the make up, the mood. I do not like it when they call him "orange pants guy" because he is Michael Jackson. No doubles in TII or at 02.
So do you call Michael's dad a liar then :lol:?He himself told the fans and the ohers that DOUBLES was used in THIS IS IT :roll:?
And for the RECORD I love Michael ,and of course he is Michael J.Jackson and please stop talking about me as I would be "OUT OF THE ROOM" and in another CAMP CALLED "THEY".I said ORANGE PANTS so that people could understand what I mean.NO OFFENSE ,ok?
I LOVE YOU :)!!!!!
Applehead you are NOT the only person who calls him "orange pants guy" and I think I'm free to write in a manner I like to. If I do not want to mention your name, I won't. If you want to take it on yourself, take it.
Second of all, yes MJ's father is lying about the doubles in TII. They did the same for Michael album. It is all to create confusion and controversy. You do not need to roll your eyes just because I disagree with your opinion. Pls try to be polite. You write LOVE all the time but I wish you could have and show it in your posts for real.
It was not my intention to offend you PURELOVE,no no.I apologise. If you pay close attention I put the roll eye ,after I wrote what Joseph said.So in conclusion I put the roll eyes because I DONT BELIEVE EITHER ,about THE DOUBLES :lol:.
P.S. Purelove if you dont want to write my name it's ok,because it's not my real name anyway :lol:.My real name is DIANA,and I'm glad to meet you!!!!
I LOVE YOU........I DO :-*!!!!!!!!
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@applehead- Ok, so the pic of Jermaine and Janet make it clear that this pic was indeed taken in 2004. Atleast for me! I'm not completely convinced about the doubles though. In public, yes! Onstage or in family photos, no!
Agree with you themoon. I think some believers look at things deeper than it is expected, focus so deeply than they need to, and this brings them to wrong conclusions. There's only ONE Michael. NOBODY looks exactly the same in every picture. It depends on the light, the make up, the mood. I do not like it when they call him "orange pants guy" because he is Michael Jackson. No doubles in TII or at 02.
So do you call Michael's dad a liar then :lol:?He himself told the fans and the ohers that DOUBLES was used in THIS IS IT :roll:?
And for the RECORD I love Michael ,and of course he is Michael J.Jackson and please stop talking about me as I would be "OUT OF THE ROOM" and in another CAMP CALLED "THEY".I said ORANGE PANTS so that people could understand what I mean.NO OFFENSE ,ok?
I LOVE YOU :)!!!!!
Applehead you are NOT the only person who calls him "orange pants guy" and I think I'm free to write in a manner I like to. If I do not want to mention your name, I won't. If you want to take it on yourself, take it.
Second of all, yes MJ's father is lying about the doubles in TII. They did the same for Michael album. It is all to create confusion and controversy. You do not need to roll your eyes just because I disagree with your opinion. Pls try to be polite. You write LOVE all the time but I wish you could have and show it in your posts for real.
It was not my intention to offend you PURELOVE,no no.I apologise. If you pay close attention I put the roll eye ,after I wrote what Joseph said.So in conclusion I put the roll eyes because I DONT BELIEVE EITHER ,about THE DOUBLES :lol:.
P.S. Purelove if you dont want to write my name it's ok,because it's not my real name anyway :lol:.My real name is DIANA,and I'm glad to meet you!!!!
I LOVE YOU........I DO :-*!!!!!!!!
Ahh ok. I thought that you believe in doubles theory in TII. Sorry it was my fault then. And I apologize for the things I wrote about the LOVE spreading issue in your posts. :oops: Nice to meet you Diana. bearhug
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I definitely think that is MJ.
He looks extremely sad or lonely in this photo.
I don't like the wording she uses, "my family", isn't it his family also?
Just my thoughts.
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I definitely think that is MJ.
He looks extremely sad or lonely in this photo.
I don't like the wording she uses, "my family", isn't it his family also?
Just my thoughts.
He doesn't look very well.
I agree 100% he looks sad...
I don't like to think about that...
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@applehead- Ok, so the pic of Jermaine and Janet make it clear that this pic was indeed taken in 2004. Atleast for me! I'm not completely convinced about the doubles though. In public, yes! Onstage or in family photos, no!
Agree with you themoon. I think some believers look at things deeper than it is expected, focus so deeply than they need to, and this brings them to wrong conclusions. There's only ONE Michael. NOBODY looks exactly the same in every picture. It depends on the light, the make up, the mood. I do not like it when they call him "orange pants guy" because he is Michael Jackson. No doubles in TII or at 02.
So do you call Michael's dad a liar then :lol: ?He himself told the fans and the ohers that DOUBLES was used in THIS IS IT :roll: ?
And for the RECORD I love Michael ,and of course he is Michael J.Jackson and please stop talking about me as I would be "OUT OF THE ROOM" and in another CAMP CALLED "THEY".I said ORANGE PANTS so that people could understand what I mean.NO OFFENSE ,ok?
I LOVE YOU :) !!!!!
Applehead you are NOT the only person who calls him "orange pants guy" and I think I'm free to write in a manner I like to. If I do not want to mention your name, I won't. If you want to take it on yourself, take it.
Second of all, yes MJ's father is lying about the doubles in TII. They did the same for Michael album. It is all to create confusion and controversy. You do not need to roll your eyes just because I disagree with your opinion. Pls try to be polite. You write LOVE all the time but I wish you could have and show it in your posts for real.
It was not my intention to offend you PURELOVE,no no.I apologise. If you pay close attention I put the roll eye ,after I wrote what Joseph said.So in conclusion I put the roll eyes because I DONT BELIEVE EITHER ,about THE DOUBLES :lol: .
P.S. Purelove if you dont want to write my name it's ok,because it's not my real name anyway :lol: .My real name is DIANA,and I'm glad to meet you!!!!
I LOVE YOU........I DO :-* !!!!!!!!
Ahh ok. I thought that you believe in doubles theory in TII. Sorry it was my fault then. And I apologize for the things I wrote about the LOVE spreading issue in your posts. :oops: Nice to meet you Diana. bearhug
All well that ends well. Glad to see you guys are back on track. It does not take much to misunderstand something we are writing. So I spread the L.O.V.E.
As for Michael he is the only unique Michael Jackson but he has impersonators who will act as decoy for him. That's why we see different Michaels. Applehead just to let you know, In December I met an impersonator in Montreal, I live in Montreal, believe me, he did look exactly like Michael, darn it was not him.. So you see sometimes we can be mistaken. blessings.
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I definitely think that is MJ.
He looks extremely sad or lonely in this photo.
I don't like the wording she uses, "my family", isn't it his family also?
Just my thoughts.
He doesn't look very well.
I agree 100% he looks sad...
I don't like to think about that...
What I mean by the "my family" is, even if MJ is dead it's still THEIR family. Just because someone passes doesn't mean that they aren't in the family anymore. I've had family members pass and they are still family members. Perhaps that's just my family. That's what I think is weird about her statement.
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I clearly see 2 Michael's in those pics Applehead posted from 2 days apart in 2005.
So you guys are willing to settle on Michael product placing Fiji water 5 years prior to 6/25/09?
I am having a hard time accepting that as an answer. I'm more inclined to believe the Fiji water is a family favorite and we should throw it out as a clue across the board.
My only hesitation is the off centering of the pic. Who took this pic and so therefore purposely off centered it to ensure the Fiji water was visible?
It's not like Michael placed it on the table. There was no reason to assume it would be within the frame. The pic had to be set up if we are to settle on purposeful product placement. The photographer had to be instructed to purposely keep it within the frame. How does that happen? This is a family function. Michael isn't the boss. Joe is. How does Michael say, oh hey, photog guy, make sure you get the Fiji water in the pic... without having to explain himself? Does the whole family and all these friends know about the hoax? That's rsiky. As it is, Janet and that guy broke up recently, right? Not a person you want in on the hoax 5 years prior.
This pic doesn't make sense and I wish you guys would think a little deeper with me. For example, 2 pages and no one touched on the most curious thing about this pic...
It's Michael's birthday, where are the kids???
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Bec - I also think it's weird that the kids aren't in the photo with him. I know I don't go out on my birthday without my kids. I don't know who took the photo either but your right it is off center. I'm sure they could have found a better spot for that photo or the photographer could have moved to get a better shot. I'm an amateur and I know better then that.
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That water is featured in that photo just as much as the 14 people are. IMO you can't dismiss this fiji water as irrelevent. It is included on purpose. As for the kids not being there, no one else brought their younger family members along either. Or did they, and this was one snap of the adults among other photos of the night chosen for the number of people and product placement involved? Smile MJ, everyone else is. I know, it must be painful getting your picture taken all the time.
Now for the digression. I see different Michaels as well. We have all this in our archives [ and the lively debates that followed such thinking] so I won't get into that now as I think we've taken that as far as we can. Also, there are a lot of articles and info from the past we looked at in '09 / 10 that are being reposted again lately.
Now, back to topic....and my 2 cents....don't throw the water out of the equation....it's featured in that photo as surely as the birthday boy and his guests.
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So how does MJ in 2004 at a family function go about making that happen?
Michael: Oh the Fiji water, get the Fiji too, it's a part of the family.
Photographer: The what, Sir, I'm sorry?
Michael: The water, the Fiji water, get it in the picture with us.
Joe: What's going on, just take the dang picture already.
Jackie: Yo what's up with the water Mike?
Janet: Michael, you so crazy.
Michael: I just wanted it, you know, it's our favorite water...
Katherine: Take the picture.
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As for the kids not being there, no one else brought their younger family members along either. Or did they, and this was one snap of the adults among other photos of the night chosen for the number of people and product placement involved?
Yeah, is that maybe the point? Kids would show the exact age of the picture. I agree he looks older then other pics of him in 04/05, both of them haha.
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@bec......you are hysterical! If this hoax thing doesn't work out....I see a bright future in screenwriting for you!
(OMGosh......I hope you're not a screenwriter...you aren't are you??)
Thanks for the laugh....
Blessings to you!
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1. Perhaps the Fiji water bottles show a level/aspect of the hoax that there are other powers that are working together with him on this, be they benevolent or otherwise. Coca Cola, Pepsi perhaps, TMZ are part of TPTB setting up MJ as some kind of a end-time messiah for the NWO.
2. The Fiji water is photoshopped in.
3. Perhaps something supernatural (God himself) is prearranging these details, as we see some crazy stats like the 9282 days before and after Pepsi fire. MJ is blissfully unaware and things around him fall into place, but he realizes he is being protected. MJ fearfully works together with the plan he see God carrying out.
4. Perhaps MJ sees his hoax inspiration details as dreams, visions and premonitions much like his process of writing lyrics, "they come from above". Again kind of a combo of God and his own doing working together. Here's a possible take on what happened for the photo:
Joe to restaurant beforehand- We want Fiji water on the side table, that's what MJ always asks for, so make sure. This is his party.
Joe- Okay everybody picture time, come on! (all gather)
MJ- Angle is important! (motions with pointer finger to camera guy with tripod to move slightly over) (gives thumbs up) (Since MJ always knows what he wants and everyone just does what he says to do, that's it.)
But really I have no idea... :lol: Just guessing!
I lean towards number 4. About MJ doubles, I've many times poured over pictures sometimes for hours, comparing all the pics (including the ones you showed applehead250609, and I still come back to the deeper level of the hoax where MJ deliberately is setting us up to believe in doubles or twins, by using illusion back at least 20 plus years with lighting, angles, make-up differences, weight gain/loss, sunglasses or not, stubble or not, hair style changes, personality changes, heels or not, on and on. Totally deliberate, and they are one and the same guy. I am absolutely sure 100% for what that's worth to anyone! :D
As far as the kids not being there, they were probably in the other room with their slough of cousins having a blast.
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Probably just another of those crazy "coincidences" (then again maybe not) but remember in This is It, I think it was after "Beat It" Kenny Ortega says to Michael "have some water" and MJ sings, "Water, Water"
I think the majority of the verbal exhanges in TII by MJ or between MJ and KO have a deeper meaning or hint to something within the hoax...maybe this was one of them????
Just putting it out there anyway......at the least it's an interesting link to the number of times we have seen Fiji water pop up in places.
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Perhaps it's just as simple as water represents life.
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This is just my personal opinion about the photos applehead posted on the previous page - I think they are the same person... The only difference I really see is sunglasses versus regular glasses.
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Do u think the picture on the wall in the photo was photoshopped? I see a circle that resembles the earth, an upside down star or starfish symbol, and an eye with a green circle around it. The background of the picture is red like his shirt. On his shirt there is one bright dot and a light 7.
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What if the Fiji bottles are not photoshopped.. On the family picture the bottles have a recent logo (with palm leafs). This logo is since October 5, 2005. Before this date the bottles had a logo with a waterfall. This could be a proof that this picture is not from 2004.
(http://www.quintessentially.com/images/newsletter/articles/fiji_2.jpg) (http://www.foodmagazine.org.uk/images/Fiji_water.jpg)
this bottle looks like the bottles on the family picture
FIJI Water(R) Unveils New Look for Iconic Square Bottle. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/FIJI+Water(R)+Unveils+New+Look+for+Iconic+Square+Bottle.-a0137156416 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/FIJI+Water(R)+Unveils+New+Look+for+Iconic+Square+Bottle.-a0137156416)
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Michael figure look really photoshopped to me - its just broke my heart to see him such sad and unhappy :cry: :cry: , like he lost all his hope :? .
2004 wasnt his happy time, but anyway - its can be also,that Michaels old pics was changen to the new - same as a New Fiji water bottle wear was replasing old 2004.
Thank you (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/Themes/default/images/useroff.gif) (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=3916) everlastinglove_MJ (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?action=profile;u=3916) for excellent find!! beerchug
You may try one more comparishing, using excelled web-source of MJ's photos
http://www.gallery.steady-laughing.com/categories.php?cat_id=379 (http://www.gallery.steady-laughing.com/categories.php?cat_id=379)
its A LOT photo info on that web- all filed by years and important dates@
i cant figure out how to apply to my post, sorry :(
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What if the Fiji bottles are not photoshopped.. On the family picture the bottles have a recent logo (with palm leafs). This logo is since October 5, 2005. Before this date the bottles had a logo with a waterfall. This could be a proof that this picture is not from 2004.
(http://www.quintessentially.com/images/newsletter/articles/fiji_2.jpg) (http://www.foodmagazine.org.uk/images/Fiji_water.jpg)
this bottle looks like the bottles on the family picture
FIJI Water(R) Unveils New Look for Iconic Square Bottle. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/FIJI+Water(R)+Unveils+New+Look+for+Iconic+Square+Bottle.-a0137156416 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/FIJI+Water(R)+Unveils+New+Look+for+Iconic+Square+Bottle.-a0137156416)
It still doesn't explain why Jermaine Dupri and Janet Jackson are wearing the same outfits as 2004 photo from paps, after either arriving or leaving the restaurant. Unless they wore the same outfit....
I doubt it.
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Anyone can find ORIGINAL 2004 pic - so we can compare?
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I will say it again: there is fluoride in Fiji water. Fluoride is poison, so there must be a clue there because I do not believe they would drink that shit. Also, I have only seen full, closed bottles. MJ looks photoshopped into that family picture, and so are maybe the bottles. So something is up with that picture, but what is it?
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Maybe it is a reference to the mermaid hoax and Fuji Films. I watched Rio today and at the end it said Fuji Films. There was a thread w/MJ references in Rio. About a rare bird who doesn't know how to fly. They say this is it, this a great adventure. Maybe he owns the company or has a piece of it. Today at the supermarket I saw Fuji batteries and flashlights for the first time.
Also, any comments on the picture hanging on the back wall??? I think it seems out of place.
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@skyways, interesting web-source of MJ-photo's, thanks.
Honestly, first I didn't want to analyse the picture, it expresses hapiness, unity though sadness at the same time. I feel sad too when I see Michael so unhappy and tired :( . The difference of body expression between him and the rest of the family is striking.
The question is: why has this specific family picture of 'assumably' 2004 been sent?
May be the picture has a bridge function between the 2004/2005 trial and the Murray trial, a connection which is important in the hoax. I'd think that the coming trial is necessary but tough and brings up sad and painful memories about the 2004/2005 trial to Michael and his family. We should realize that too :( . Well, of course is this my personal interpretation.
L.O.V.E.
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Just a couple of possibly irrelevent things about this picture.
1/ Everybody except Randy? is looking into the camera . He is facing away looking sidewards.
2/ Michael has a piece of paper in his hand. Could that be the bill for his own birthday bash he's paying for?
3/ The gentleman placed next to Michael has on an apron that is tied on back to front, showing the apron strings hanging in front and a chef's white coat. I find it odd that Toy would post this pic that doesn't have only family in it and contains the restaurant owner. You'd think it would be a snap that the owner would display in his restaurant to show that celebrities and famous folk dine there. suspicious//
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maybe the "clue" is not in the picture but in the message "On MJ's 53rd birthday I'd like to share a personal photo of MJ's last birthday dinner with my family on August 30, 2004"
So she is saying that MJ did not have a birthday dinner with his/her family after 2004??? why not??
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maybe the "clue" is not in the picture but in the message "On MJ's 53rd birthday I'd like to share a personal photo of MJ's last birthday dinner with my family on August 30, 2004"
So she is saying that MJ did not have a birthday dinner with his/her family after 2004??? why not??
The pictures posted here (I would guess by paps) are for Aug 28, 2004.
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/rEhOYbZ52rY/Michael+Jackson+46th+birthday/9M8ZdoGp0ck/Janet+Jackson (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/rEhOYbZ52rY/Michael+Jackson+46th+birthday/9M8ZdoGp0ck/Janet+Jackson)
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The artwork in the frame on the back wall stood out to me. It seems out of place. The first circle is the earth, the second is an upside star. I was reading about it representing Venus. There was a Venus transit 6/8/04 and there will be another one on 6/6/12. The last one was in 12/1882. Venus represents compassion and love. It refers to the event as the return of the Goddess, and that Venus is the only feminine Goddess in our soul ar system. It will inspire intuitive awareness.
Maybe it will be a lifting of the veil of sorts.
http://www.lunarplanner.com/HCpages/Venus.html
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well...that picture was taken 7 years ago. another 7 thrown in the hoax! i don't know whether the fact that the number is the clue or if there's actually something going on in it. it's very, very odd.
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What if the Fiji bottles are not photoshopped.. On the family picture the bottles have a recent logo (with palm leafs). This logo is since October 5, 2005. Before this date the bottles had a logo with a waterfall. This could be a proof that this picture is not from 2004.
(http://www.quintessentially.com/images/newsletter/articles/fiji_2.jpg) (http://www.foodmagazine.org.uk/images/Fiji_water.jpg)
this bottle looks like the bottles on the family picture
FIJI Water(R) Unveils New Look for Iconic Square Bottle. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/FIJI+Water(R)+Unveils+New+Look+for+Iconic+Square+Bottle.-a0137156416 (http://www.thefreelibrary.com/FIJI+Water(R)+Unveils+New+Look+for+Iconic+Square+Bottle.-a0137156416)
hard to tell what logo it is since the coolingbox is hiding half the logo... bangbang (http://www.debutanteclothing.com/news/fiji.gif)
but I will say that it is the old bottletype that is shown in the family photo because : 1. the new logo have text above "fiji" the old bottle has not. and the bottles in the family photo has no text above "fiji" 2. there is much more blue in the old logo than the new, jsut like the bottle in the family photo. 3. in the family photo the bottle has a green feature sticking out.. this feature is too far down in the new logo, but it is in the right place in the old logo...
therefore.. the bottles are from 2004.....
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well...that picture was taken 7 years ago. another 7 thrown in the hoax! i don't know whether the fact that the number is the clue or if there's actually something going on in it. it's very, very odd.
Yes mjfan this picture is from 2004 and is 7 years old lolol/.Now I remember where I first saw this picture.I saw it on youtube last year 8-),on this video starting 4:16.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF_NNGJ3Tx0&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]
LOVE
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It's still really perplexing to me the placement of these Fiji water bottles in this purported old Jackson Family personal photo.
Did Michael know he was going to use Fiji water as a clue to the death hoax back in 2004? I believe as TS/back/Front have stated, that Michael has been planning the death hoax for decades, it's just shocking to be confronted with such in-your-face proof that even the smallest details may have been planned for at least 5 years prior... and as in this particular pic with the chi-mo allegations and a trial looming...
I dunno why that's shocking, but to me it is a profound clue.
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Jermaine Dupri is in this picture. A month after Michael's 'death', Jermaine and Janet broke up.
This article in the Daily News is interesting. They split after their 7 year relationship.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-07-17/gossip/17928163_1_janet-jackson-jermaine-dupri-michael-jackson (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009-07-17/gossip/17928163_1_janet-jackson-jermaine-dupri-michael-jackson)
Hi there, I am new to this site. This is my first post. I am a beLIEVER.
Just think it is interesting that Janet ended her relationship pretty much after MJ 'died'
Perhaps she needed to end a relationship with her husband, to maintain a 'secret' relationship with her brother. Meaning, that perhaps she felt he wouldnt be trusted with the knowledge of MJ being alive, if he knew the truth so thenn ended her marriage to enable her to communicate with MJ.
Family cant be trusted sometimes. Perhaps she felt this with Dupree.
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Michael has one unusually wider tooth on the bottom left at the front. When he smiles, this is evidence (if you need any more) that it is him. ;)
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I believe it was Michael at the 02 Arena, and I always have!
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It's still really perplexing to me the placement of these Fiji water bottles in this purported old Jackson Family personal photo.
Did Michael know he was going to use Fiji water as a clue to the death hoax back in 2004? I believe as TS/back/Front have stated, that Michael has been planning the death hoax for decades, it's just shocking to be confronted with such in-your-face proof that even the smallest details may have been planned for at least 5 years prior... and as in this particular pic with the chi-mo allegations and a trial looming...
I dunno why that's shocking, but to me it is a profound clue.
bec three photos in where is the water fiji, the credits are SD
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-OZXKOQaaPLE/TnbafVA07HI/AAAAAAAAA18/A-F9u1e7v7k/s640/Fiji+water+1.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2HI2PwLCNec/Tnbafz_R9rI/AAAAAAAAA2A/n3gFR_L8Khk/s640/Fiji+water+2.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qlIUekBOUvk/Tnbagiy5bWI/AAAAAAAAA2E/8MH_9pH8u_Q/s640/Fiji+water3.jpg)
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perhaps he is IN fiji... im only half serious. but imagine.
mj would be far more subtle than that.
perhaps jacksons own the brand.
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Yes, paula, that's my point. We have always held the appearance of Fiji water as a clue to the hoax-Barnum connection. It started with the "death-bed photo", then to TII, then appears at the Tribute conference... and finally it shows up purposely faced and framed in a Jackson Family photo from 2004.
It's enough to make one pause at the implications.
It's such a little detail... I guess I didn't think he had the little details planned for so long... just the big stuff (lyrics, symbolism, the PLAN). Dates and things can be manipulated (the will on 7/7/02 could have been manipulated and the document produced much later, for example), but this photo says a thousand words.
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Bec, I don't want to take the wind out of your sails, so to speak, but aren't these all situations where it would be perfectly feasible to legitimately have bottles of water, without there being any clues or hoax connection?
Now I don't know if Fiji would be the brand of choice for the Jacksons, or if it is maybe so common in the US that that's the sort that would most likely be provided. Without ascertaining these things I can't make a decision about the importance or not of this water cropping up in all four places.
Is that why you're seeing it as important - because you know the Fiji brand is unusual and therefore it recurring in 2004, 2009 and now in 2011 is strange?
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MJ had dinner with his family on 14 May 2009 for his parents' anniversary. So how can the 2004 dinner be the last one he ever had with his family - that would have been 5 years before 2009.
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Bec, I don't want to take the wind out of your sails, so to speak, but aren't these all situations where it would be perfectly feasible to legitimately have bottles of water, without there being any clues or hoax connection?
Now I don't know if Fiji would be the brand of choice for the Jacksons, or if it is maybe so common in the US that that's the sort that would most likely be provided. Without ascertaining these things I can't make a decision about the importance or not of this water cropping up in all four places.
Is that why you're seeing it as important - because you know the Fiji brand is unusual and therefore it recurring in 2004, 2009 and now in 2011 is strange?
No loss of wind, lol, love u curls.
Fiji is fairly unusual to see in the US. It's not a very popular brand at all.
But the biggest thing about it's placement in the 2004 pic is that the family group, ie people are off centered in the frame so as to include the water sitting on the table off to the side. There seems no earthly reason to include the water. If the photographer had centered the subject, even passively, the water would have been cut out of the shot. Take a look at it again and you'll see what I mean.
That's the weirdest part to me.
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Yes, I've looked again Bec, and I see what you mean! It begs the question, who actually took the photo? Someone random, who might easily have off centred the group (hell, I've got some family pics far worse than this one with all sorts of miscellaneous 'extras'!)? Some professional? Someone taking orders from MJ to make sure they get the water in the shot?!
Anyone fancy asking LaToya if she remembers who took the photo?!!
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Perhaps it's not the brand of water itself. Water = life.
Here is the opening paragraph for the link I'm providing.
** "Water is often used to symbolize things in literature. Since water is often a sign of life, many times water represents life. Water can also be broken up into two categories: fresh water and bad/polluted water. Fresh water can represent good health, and bad water symbolizes bad health." **
http://symbolism.wikia.com/wiki/Water
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You see a lot of hollywood celebrities drinking Fiji water, Evian, Smart Water: the more expensive brands.
I think the point of water symbolizing life is more fitting, and Fiji is just that trendy water 'classy' people drink lol. Plus, I can't stand how Fiji water tastes. It has so much flouride that all its natural minerals are stripped clean. It tastes like your drinking bleach diluted with water... pale/
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Perhaps it's not the brand of water itself. Water = life.
Here is the opening paragraph for the link I'm providing.
** "Water is often used to symbolize things in literature. Since water is often a sign of life, many times water represents life. Water can also be broken up into two categories: fresh water and bad/polluted water. Fresh water can represent good health, and bad water symbolizes bad health." **
http://symbolism.wikia.com/wiki/Water (http://symbolism.wikia.com/wiki/Water)
So many things that have been said of fiji, i found this on the internet, the original text is in spanish
How many dead MORE DO YOU NEED?
The company's bottled Fiji water, thanks to a very effective marketing campaign, came to position your brand at an international level. Fiji bottled water reached to be the second best-selling watermark in United States. But for his "bad luck", it had a surfeit of arrogance to deploy an ad campaign in magazines in 2007, with the phrase "the label says Fiji because it is not bottled in Cleveland" (Ohio), as a way of accentuating the purity of its origin. Says one of the leaders of the campaign, the election of the city of Cleveland to include in the sentence was carried out at random. Cleveland authorities, somewhat offended, decided to conduct a comparative analysis of local tap water and bottled water, Fiji. The results determined that bottled water contained 6.3 micrograms of arsenic per liter, while the City tap water had a non-existent presence of arsenic. Analysis took public State, and of course, were a bofetazo for the company, which decided to promote their own analyses. The results of new studies, determined the presence of 2 micrograms per liter, being shown that Fiji water, as well as more expensive, slightly more toxic than water from tap (always within levels tolerated by the law). The company, not only decided to put an end to the campaign, but it also had to accentuate their policies to reduce the polluting effects throughout the product life cycle, before the sharp decline in its sales volumes.
http://lacrox.wordpress.com/agua/agua-fiji/ (http://lacrox.wordpress.com/agua/agua-fiji/)
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I will say it again: there is fluoride in Fiji water. Fluoride is poison, so there must be a clue there because I do not believe they would drink that shit. Also, I have only seen full, closed bottles. MJ looks photoshopped into that family picture, and so are maybe the bottles. So something is up with that picture, but what is it?
Yes. Michael´s hands are darker if one compares with 2004-5 pics. And also, Fiji water + fluoride reminds me of Michael´s bed, with a tube of tooth paste.
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May be the water is used because of charity?
since 2007
FIJI Water Foundation Launched in August 2007, the FIJI Water Foundation (http://www.fijiwaterfoundation.org/) is a charitable trust funded and supported by our owners, employees, and partners from around the world. The FIJI Water Foundation is one of the largest philanthropic organizations operating in Fiji and focuses on three priority areas of development throughout the islands: (1) improving access to, and quality of, health care; (2) creating and advancing educational opportunities for children, teenagers and adults; and (3) investing in clean water, sanitation, and infrastructure projects to improve quality of life.
Since its establishment, the Foundation has funded projects touching over 100,000 lives in all fourteen of Fiji’s provinces. We continue to expand our outreach and identify long-term project partners who share the Foundation’s sustainable development goals.
http://www.fijiwater.com/giving-back/community/fiji-water-foundation/
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I will say it again: there is fluoride in Fiji water. Fluoride is poison, so there must be a clue there because I do not believe they would drink that shit. Also, I have only seen full, closed bottles. MJ looks photoshopped into that family picture, and so are maybe the bottles. So something is up with that picture, but what is it?
Yes. Michael´s hands are darker if one compares with 2004-5 pics. And also, Fiji water + fluoride reminds me of Michael´s bed, with a tube of tooth paste.
This is of jermaine:
Someone, without any authorisation from the promoter, AEG, placed a discreet call to a doctor whom Michael had consulted in the past. After the symptoms had been explained to him, the doctor said it sounded as if Michael was suffering from “toxic poisoning of the brain” and should get to a hospital. For reasons that remain maddening to me, he didn’t go.
Fluoride is a toxic substance that is found in toothpaste and water, the two things be the" scene of the crime " errrr 8)
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The toothpaste was still in it's box - i.e. unused. I can't see if the water bottle is open. Water on the bedside table I can understand, but a box of toothpaste randomly left on a 'death bed' WTF?? ?? Not 'random' at all I'd say. It was left there to be seen, which now makes me wonder some more about the other items littering that totally set-up scene.
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Like the Fiji Water bottle.