Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Persons Of Interest => Everyone Else => Dave Dave => Topic started by: finfin on September 19, 2011, 02:42:19 PM

Title: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: finfin on September 19, 2011, 02:42:19 PM

Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-meOpZeTDk

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Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: AThousandTimes on September 19, 2011, 02:58:34 PM
I have mixed feelings about this Dave Dave guy... he reminds me a lot of Michael Jackson. His voice and mannerisms just seem so alike. He also turns his head a little bit to the left or right, and the way he says 'yup' in the beginning and 'this and that' sounds so Michaelish... but I'm not sure this is Michael Jackson.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: jacilovesmichael on September 19, 2011, 03:39:51 PM
At this point, every opinion about Dave Dave is valid. However, I do disagree with your reasoning for believing it wasn't Michael Jackson. For instance, I believe Michael is indeed a very good actor, and wouldn't good acting entail paying attention to and executing particular body language ESPECIALLY when playing a role while presumbably dead?  lolol/ Also, the fingers are obviously disfigured, but if this were a role played in a "regular" movie, prosthetic body parts could and would be used, and it's not like MJ wouldn't have the resources to make that happen. Just my two cents!
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: finfin on September 19, 2011, 03:52:35 PM
I actually think that CJB cannot commit to agreeing/considering  MJ is alive because his large, regular non believer audience would object strongly. Interesting tho' that he admitted to having goosebumps about Dave Dave's voice  suspicious//
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on September 19, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
How does it explain that the real Dave, Dave has blue green eyes, and his neck has burn scars.. This Dave Dave has brown eyes and no burn scars on his neck.. Something is off here.. I think he is Michael..
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: LoveNeedsExpression on September 19, 2011, 05:56:14 PM
I can't see the vid you posted because I'm on my phone. But if that is Dave Dave on the LKL interview, in my personal opinion, that is 100000% MJ. Same voice, mannerisms, eyes (brown not green). Yeah, that's MJ.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: hesouttamylife on September 19, 2011, 06:19:53 PM
I never realized how much like Michael he sounds.  Plus those eyes in those glasses so reminds me of the Mayor’s in Ghost.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: foreverking2 on September 19, 2011, 06:54:31 PM
MJ was Dave Dave for one day. Fake hands, burn scars, even gestures can be duplicated. But MJ could not hide his soft spoken soul. Outside of the eyes, which are dark brown and not green, and the voice, DD isn't this sweet, soft spoken person. He's kind of wild guy, with interesting tats, and a kind edgy personailty. DD on LKL and the one at the memorial was quiet, and very humble.

Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on September 19, 2011, 07:15:52 PM
he said that his hands are from a burned victim. Yes I agree, but they can always use Prosthetic Make-Up and reproduce a hand with few fingers.
Check this youtube video, they do not show the fingers per say, but close enough, they can do lots of diguising.. Remember the eyes do not lie.. Even in Ghost the mayor, look deep into the eyes you know it is Michael all along.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxemqiFJuog
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: Mish1981 on September 19, 2011, 07:27:08 PM
There is always the possibility that Dave Dave on LKL was in fact Dave Dave portraying Michael with a purpose. I remember sitting on the couch when that came on and of course as usual I was multitasking and when he started to speak I looked up. It's always possible that Dave Dave was asked to do his part and cause people to raise an eyebrow and question. There were a few things in the very beginning that did this, some caught on (hoaxers) and some didn't (non-hoaxers). I think this subject can go right beside the 'This Is It MJ' debate. There are those that are going to be on either side of it's him it's not, then there are those (myself included) that think even if we know, we really have no idea.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: voiceforthesilent on September 19, 2011, 11:48:14 PM
Thank you for sharing this with us. I find this analysis very interesting and especially the closed-minded comments from some on that youtube channel. It's amazing to me that some think that because his hands look burned that he can not be Michael.

I know this has been a hot topic in the past. But this is the first thing that made me start to wonder what was going on. As I've said before I believed Michael had died and I was extremely heartbroken even though I did not consider myself a fan at the time. But when I saw this on TV I immediately did a double take.

I believe I could do a better analysis than this guy did.  My take is that Miko also started laughing more than once and in order to cover himself he started drinking from his cup. Even when this interview first aired, before DD started talking, I though Miko was a little too happy.

This guys says DD seems to be telling the truth regarding his stories. Doesn't he think Michael knows the story or feels the same way? of course he does. But you could tell that he struggled to give Michael too much credit and that for me was the clincher in what he said. In fact, he said Michael never paid for any of the surgeries but I believe I read that he did.

The clincher for me has always been the eyes. I will never ever believe it was the real DD on LKL that day.

Blessings.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: bec on September 19, 2011, 11:59:49 PM
I believe this is Michael.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: Australian MJ BeLIEver on September 20, 2011, 02:02:00 AM
do you guys agree that the eye makeup or eyelid colour on DD on LKL looks heavier than at other times? i think DD on LKL is MJ. the MJ eye tattooing gives it away for me personally..

also when he said the words 'criminal he is a criminal' and the later the words 'mother' all i could hear was MJ. sent shudders down my spine.

Regarding using the word 'criminal' That is exactly what he would say and how he would refer to him. It is reminiscent of how he has referred to others, D.A, Tabloids, etc. and just the body language, especially when he was saying that line, and how he repeated it and was indignant, you could hear the injustice in his tone, that was so michaelesque.

Also, I think that DD / MJ looks nervous. The way he shifts in his chair reminds me of when martin bashir was asking michael the hard hitting questions at the end of his stupid documentary. When michael was getting upset, nervous and agitated, his body language there, reminds me of DD's body language on LKL. Only slightly... but if you look back at that, is somehow does remind of you of this body language too...

love you mj.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: MJonmind on September 20, 2011, 03:46:51 AM
My opinion is that this guy, though good at what he does, underestimates Michael's acting ability. MJ knows fully how to place himself emotionally into the role he's playing. Plus the fact is that MJ did actually have a relationship with DD and various memories with him that would enable his body language to appear that he is telling the truth. The popping eyes is a dead give away for me--just like MJ's eyes did sometimes.  He didn't comment on Miko's actions much though. I thought his averted eyes showed unease with perhaps deception/acting. I'm wondering if the extra broad shoulders hide mechanics for fake hands.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: reveron1958 on September 20, 2011, 05:17:11 AM
The eyes do it for me.

I also think the jacket was far too large to try to make him look like a bigger build, but it sort of looks like a kid trying on his dad's suit.

It's such a shame there are not more 'real' Dave Dave videos to compare him to.  /pull hair/

I also agree that he would have been trying to have a different body language to normal, he is very clever and would have been careful not to make it too obvious.

Didn't I also read that he didn't get his story of their first meeting perfectly straight? I would have thought Dave Dave would have remembered it correctly, but perhaps Michael wouldn't have as he's met so many sick children over the years.

In all I lean towards it being likely to be Michael.  :lol:
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: AThousandTimes on September 20, 2011, 05:57:32 AM
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do you guys agree that the eye makeup or eyelid colour on DD on LKL looks heavier than at other times? i think DD on LKL is MJ. the MJ eye tattooing gives it away for me personally..

also when he said the words 'criminal he is a criminal' and the later the words 'mother' all i could hear was MJ. sent shudders down my spine.


The eye make-up! I hadn't even paid attention to that yet, but yes, his eye make up does look very dark... like tattoed.

And he does say these words EXACTLY like MJ! Not only his voice is almost identical but also his accent...

IMO he resembles MJ more than the major in Ghosts. And that is MJ.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: BeTheChange on September 20, 2011, 09:00:16 AM
When asked about the first time he met Michael, 'Dave Dave' begins by saying it took place at Encino...then he drifts for a bit...and when he returns to the 'first time' meeting, he says it was at Neverland.  He could be talking about 2 different meetings...one at Encino and one at Neverland...but they were talking about the 'first' meeting (not to mention the 'details' flow through--i.e. his mother kept the 'first' meeting a secret/surprise).
 
I don't know about you guys...but I could live to be 103 (with bouts of alzheimers) and I will never forget where I was the day Mike 'died'.  If I had ever been lucky and blessed enough to actually meet Michael...there's NO way I'd get 'tripped up' about where that meeting took place.  But Mike, on the other hand, has met SO many fans and admirers...that it probably would be something he could 'trip up' on...even if rehearsed.
 
I believe DD on LKL is Mike.
 
With L.O.V.E. always.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: Andrea on September 20, 2011, 09:23:47 AM
I was talking to a guy at work and he had NO CLUE about Michael still being alive or any hoax going on whatsoever.  I showed him the Dave Dave interview on his phone and you should've seen the way his eyes bugged out of his head when "Dave" started talking.  I don't know if he's fully convinced but it was definitely entertaining for me to see his reaction.
 
I do believe that Michael was Dave Dave for that day.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: Datroot on September 20, 2011, 12:25:34 PM
MJ's bodyguards when interviewed on TV said he used to like to dress up as burns victims.
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: VeryLittleSusie on September 20, 2011, 03:10:51 PM
The eyes tell it... Remember the photo from Jermaine's book that recently popped up???  ::P
Title: Re: Is Dave Dave Michael Jackson? My Body Language Analysis
Post by: jacilovesmichael on September 21, 2011, 03:10:48 PM
Yeah... if that's not Michael Jackson then I'm a black man (and I'm totally a white girl hahahaha)
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