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Title: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 12:44:28 PM
This is going to be  an odd topic, but I spoke to my friend earlier about the Hoax and she told me an interesting story:

"We were visiting up near Rotherham one time on the Bus, we stopped outside a range of apartments of which were supported by metal bars, me and my friend got off at the bus stop near here, where we wandered underneath the terraces.
After a while we heard a faint sound of a soft spoken voice coming from a balcony not far from us where a tall black man in a suit stood infront of what looked like a street kid wearing a blue, red and white striped hoodie.

We peered up to the balcony at the two people, they seemed to have recognized us and turned to face us. That's when it happened, I swear we saw Michael, the real thing! Michael Jackson was literally standing on the terrace not even 10 foot away from us and had looked at us before the taller man made a mad dash, pulling Michael by the arm into the apartment and slamming the sliding glass door shut, drawing the curtains." 








I don't know if the story is legitamate or not, but I DID however find the hoodie she referred to:

(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd451/KWGF/ank28z.png)


What do you guys think?
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 23, 2011, 12:51:19 PM
lolol/ I thought it happened to you Raikiramari, that you saw Michael  lolol/ Since 2 yrs, I have to admit we had lots of trolls, and false stories. I am skeptical it may be true as it may be a lie. I leave my option open. I know Michael is alive.. So many people say they saw Michael, blah blah blah.. So what to believe? I say believe yourself, what you have in your soul and  heart. My heart and soul tells me since june 25/2009 MICHAEL IS ALIVE... and that is good enough for me.

Much love and blessings.  bearhug
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 12:57:37 PM
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lolol/ I thought it happened to you Raikiramari, that you saw Michael  lolol/ Since 2 yrs, I have to admit we had lots of trolls, and false stories. I am skeptical it may be true as it may be a lie. I leave my option open. I know Michael is alive.. So many people say they saw Michael, blah blah blah.. So what to believe? I say believe yourself, what you have in your soul and  heart. My heart and soul tells me since june 25/2009 MICHAEL IS ALIVE... and that is good enough for me.

Much love and blessings.  bearhug


Haha, I wish I'd seen Michael.

I don't know wether or not to believe her, but she said this happened a year ago whilst she was visiting Rotherham. I have my reasons to believe her, since apparantly Michael loved England and the Hoodie really caught my attention, considering she's not much of a fan of Michael's. I'll ask her next time to take a picture with her phone.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 23, 2011, 01:00:31 PM
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lolol/ I thought it happened to you Raikiramari, that you saw Michael  lolol/ Since 2 yrs, I have to admit we had lots of trolls, and false stories. I am skeptical it may be true as it may be a lie. I leave my option open. I know Michael is alive.. So many people say they saw Michael, blah blah blah.. So what to believe? I say believe yourself, what you have in your soul and  heart. My heart and soul tells me since june 25/2009 MICHAEL IS ALIVE... and that is good enough for me.

Much love and blessings.  bearhug


Haha, I wish I'd seen Michael.

I don't know wether or not to believe her, but she said this happened a year ago whilst she was visiting Rotherham. I have my reasons to believe her, since apparantly Michael loved England and the Hoodie really caught my attention, considering she's not much of a fan of Michael's. I'll ask her next time to take a picture with her phone.

You know this person? Well I know Michael did have a rented house in England for the This is it tour.. Maybe he is living there? Ask her more details please. thanks for sharing your story..
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 01:03:04 PM
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lolol/ I thought it happened to you Raikiramari, that you saw Michael  lolol/ Since 2 yrs, I have to admit we had lots of trolls, and false stories. I am skeptical it may be true as it may be a lie. I leave my option open. I know Michael is alive.. So many people say they saw Michael, blah blah blah.. So what to believe? I say believe yourself, what you have in your soul and  heart. My heart and soul tells me since june 25/2009 MICHAEL IS ALIVE... and that is good enough for me.

Much love and blessings.  bearhug


Haha, I wish I'd seen Michael.

I don't know wether or not to believe her, but she said this happened a year ago whilst she was visiting Rotherham. I have my reasons to believe her, since apparantly Michael loved England and the Hoodie really caught my attention, considering she's not much of a fan of Michael's. I'll ask her next time to take a picture with her phone.

You know this person? Well I know Michael did have a rented house in England for the This is it tour.. Maybe he is living there? Ask her more details please. thanks for sharing your story..

She's a friend of mine, we're on and off most of the time though...

I know, that's what I was wondering. Michael's This Is It tour was in London, so he probably rented out a house somewhere near London. Rotherham isn't that far away from London, actually.

I'll ask her as soon as I get in contact with her again, which could be either tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 23, 2011, 01:12:06 PM
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lolol/ I thought it happened to you Raikiramari, that you saw Michael  lolol/ Since 2 yrs, I have to admit we had lots of trolls, and false stories. I am skeptical it may be true as it may be a lie. I leave my option open. I know Michael is alive.. So many people say they saw Michael, blah blah blah.. So what to believe? I say believe yourself, what you have in your soul and  heart. My heart and soul tells me since june 25/2009 MICHAEL IS ALIVE... and that is good enough for me.

Much love and blessings.  bearhug


Haha, I wish I'd seen Michael.

I don't know wether or not to believe her, but she said this happened a year ago whilst she was visiting Rotherham. I have my reasons to believe her, since apparantly Michael loved England and the Hoodie really caught my attention, considering she's not much of a fan of Michael's. I'll ask her next time to take a picture with her phone.

You know this person? Well I know Michael did have a rented house in England for the This is it tour.. Maybe he is living there? Ask her more details please. thanks for sharing your story..

She's a friend of mine, we're on and off most of the time though...

I know, that's what I was wondering. Michael's This Is It tour was in London, so he probably rented out a house somewhere near London. Rotherham isn't that far away from London, actually.

I'll ask her as soon as I get in contact with her again, which could be either tonight or tomorrow.

Great, thank you maybe we will have an  answer after all.. Remember there are alot of impersonators that really look so  much like Michael.. So he can be an impersonator. Anyways just let us know and thanks again.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 01:34:01 PM
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lolol/ I thought it happened to you Raikiramari, that you saw Michael  lolol/ Since 2 yrs, I have to admit we had lots of trolls, and false stories. I am skeptical it may be true as it may be a lie. I leave my option open. I know Michael is alive.. So many people say they saw Michael, blah blah blah.. So what to believe? I say believe yourself, what you have in your soul and  heart. My heart and soul tells me since june 25/2009 MICHAEL IS ALIVE... and that is good enough for me.

Much love and blessings.  bearhug


Haha, I wish I'd seen Michael.

I don't know wether or not to believe her, but she said this happened a year ago whilst she was visiting Rotherham. I have my reasons to believe her, since apparantly Michael loved England and the Hoodie really caught my attention, considering she's not much of a fan of Michael's. I'll ask her next time to take a picture with her phone.

You know this person? Well I know Michael did have a rented house in England for the This is it tour.. Maybe he is living there? Ask her more details please. thanks for sharing your story..

She's a friend of mine, we're on and off most of the time though...

I know, that's what I was wondering. Michael's This Is It tour was in London, so he probably rented out a house somewhere near London. Rotherham isn't that far away from London, actually.

I'll ask her as soon as I get in contact with her again, which could be either tonight or tomorrow.

Great, thank you maybe we will have an  answer after all.. Remember there are alot of impersonators that really look so  much like Michael.. So he can be an impersonator. Anyways just let us know and thanks again.

She texted to me that she's 100% sure that it's Michael, I showed her some pictures of Navi and E'casanova and she insists that they weren't who she saw, she refers it as "Spot on"

This is part of what she texted (Hurray for looking back and forth from your phone and your screen to type things!)    :

"no im sure its him :/ or why would the guy next to him pull him into the room? srsly ive been to one of navis concerts before and I no where he stays when he comes here.  smh my friend was with me she said she knows its him cuz of his voice it does not sound like navi n we both no that ecas would not tour here b/c hes been gone for like ages i aint heard nothing about ecas."

So basically she's told me that she's been to one of Navi's concerts before, which I can believe since Navi toured in England quite a few times.

She's probably right about the theory with E'casanova, I don't even know what's happened to him.  8)

Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Snoopy71 on October 23, 2011, 01:46:23 PM
Hide in plain sight...

I could believe it. Michael is a prankster....and being in hiding wouldn't change that. I'd really believe it if he dropped a water balloon....that would confirmation for me!   ;D

If I ever saw Michael, I don't think I'd tell anyone (well, maybe my brother -he'd look at me crazy, but he'd believe me!)

Otherwise, it would be a sweet little secret I'd keep to myself  ;))
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 23, 2011, 02:28:15 PM
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lolol/ I thought it happened to you Raikiramari, that you saw Michael  lolol/ Since 2 yrs, I have to admit we had lots of trolls, and false stories. I am skeptical it may be true as it may be a lie. I leave my option open. I know Michael is alive.. So many people say they saw Michael, blah blah blah.. So what to believe? I say believe yourself, what you have in your soul and  heart. My heart and soul tells me since june 25/2009 MICHAEL IS ALIVE... and that is good enough for me.

Much love and blessings.  bearhug


Haha, I wish I'd seen Michael.

I don't know wether or not to believe her, but she said this happened a year ago whilst she was visiting Rotherham. I have my reasons to believe her, since apparantly Michael loved England and the Hoodie really caught my attention, considering she's not much of a fan of Michael's. I'll ask her next time to take a picture with her phone.

You know this person? Well I know Michael did have a rented house in England for the This is it tour.. Maybe he is living there? Ask her more details please. thanks for sharing your story..

She's a friend of mine, we're on and off most of the time though...

I know, that's what I was wondering. Michael's This Is It tour was in London, so he probably rented out a house somewhere near London. Rotherham isn't that far away from London, actually.

I'll ask her as soon as I get in contact with her again, which could be either tonight or tomorrow.

Great, thank you maybe we will have an  answer after all.. Remember there are alot of impersonators that really look so  much like Michael.. So he can be an impersonator. Anyways just let us know and thanks again.

She texted to me that she's 100% sure that it's Michael, I showed her some pictures of Navi and E'casanova and she insists that they weren't who she saw, she refers it as "Spot on"

This is part of what she texted (Hurray for looking back and forth from your phone and your screen to type things!)    :

"no im sure its him :/ or why would the guy next to him pull him into the room? srsly ive been to one of navis concerts before and I no where he stays when he comes here.  smh my friend was with me she said she knows its him cuz of his voice it does not sound like navi n we both no that ecas would not tour here b/c hes been gone for like ages i aint heard nothing about ecas."

So basically she's told me that she's been to one of Navi's concerts before, which I can believe since Navi toured in England quite a few times.

She's probably right about the theory with E'casanova, I don't even know what's happened to him.  8)



Thanks for letting us know.. Wow.. that is amazing. Which day was it? is it recently or lat year?
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 03:18:33 PM
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Hide in plain sight...

I could believe it. Michael is a prankster....and being in hiding wouldn't change that. I'd really believe it if he dropped a water balloon....that would confirmation for me!   ;D

If I ever saw Michael, I don't think I'd tell anyone (well, maybe my brother -he'd look at me crazy, but he'd believe me!)

Otherwise, it would be a sweet little secret I'd keep to myself  ;))

Haha, aww. She said she thought they were having a serious discussion about something, she said she got as much as she could of the conversation on her phone, before they ran inside:

"Oh no they did, but we rescheduled it to next year." (inaudible) "What?" (pause) "Mhmm..." (stops) "He said that (inaudible) for it" (Stops and laughs)  "Wow, I didn't expect that, not at all." (looks down) "Well? what?" (silence as they see us staring) "Erm, that's alright" (inaudible)"NO, they" (inaudible) "In, quick, GO."

Well, I don't think she wanted me to share this, but she seems okay about it now. I just found it all too interesting.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: voiceforthesilent on October 23, 2011, 03:54:57 PM
Thank you for sharing your story with us. I guess only time will tell, right?

I find it odd that your friend would go see Navi in person if she/he wasn't a huge Michael fan? And how would she know that much about E'Cas? I'm not saying you're not telling the truth - it just sounds odd to me because I didn't even know about Navi or E'Cas before researching about the hoax.

Blessings :)
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 04:06:22 PM
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Thank you for sharing your story with us. I guess only time will tell, right?

I find it odd that your friend would go see Navi in person if she/he wasn't a huge Michael fan? And how would she know that much about E'Cas? I'm not saying you're not telling the truth - it just sounds odd to me because I didn't even know about Navi or E'Cas before researching about the hoax.

Blessings :)

She's not a huge fan of Michael's, but that doesn't mean she doesn't know who Navi and E'casanova are, I talk to her about Michael all the time, but she's never interested because she doesn't like him all that much.

The hoax was released in 2009, she said this happened during 2010. I was the one who introduced her to Navi, she got interested in Navi because of "The Legend of Zelda" and so forth introduced a bunch of jokes relating to Video games.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: voiceforthesilent on October 23, 2011, 04:18:34 PM
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Thank you for sharing your story with us. I guess only time will tell, right?

I find it odd that your friend would go see Navi in person if she/he wasn't a huge Michael fan? And how would she know that much about E'Cas? I'm not saying you're not telling the truth - it just sounds odd to me because I didn't even know about Navi or E'Cas before researching about the hoax.

Blessings :)

She's not a huge fan of Michael's, but that doesn't mean she doesn't know who Navi and E'casanova are, I talk to her about Michael all the time, but she's never interested because she doesn't like him all that much.

The hoax was released in 2009, she said this happened during 2010. I was the one who introduced her to Navi, she got interested in Navi because of "The Legend of Zelda" and so forth introduced a bunch of jokes relating to Video games.

Thank you for sharing this :)
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 04:20:43 PM
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Thank you for sharing your story with us. I guess only time will tell, right?

I find it odd that your friend would go see Navi in person if she/he wasn't a huge Michael fan? And how would she know that much about E'Cas? I'm not saying you're not telling the truth - it just sounds odd to me because I didn't even know about Navi or E'Cas before researching about the hoax.

Blessings :)

She's not a huge fan of Michael's, but that doesn't mean she doesn't know who Navi and E'casanova are, I talk to her about Michael all the time, but she's never interested because she doesn't like him all that much.

The hoax was released in 2009, she said this happened during 2010. I was the one who introduced her to Navi, she got interested in Navi because of "The Legend of Zelda" and so forth introduced a bunch of jokes relating to Video games.

Thank you for sharing this :)

No problem c:
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Vietnow on October 23, 2011, 04:23:57 PM
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I don't know if the story is legitamate or not, but I DID however find the hoodie she referred to:

(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd451/KWGF/ank28z.png)


What do you guys think?


Has she seen this picture? I understand that it would add speculation and not 100% proof.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 04:36:49 PM
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I don't know if the story is legitamate or not, but I DID however find the hoodie she referred to:

(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd451/KWGF/ank28z.png)


What do you guys think?


Has she seen this picture? I understand that it would add speculation and not 100% proof.

She said no, I told her it was from Vibe the photoshoot with Quincy Jones. She just said "What's Vibe?"

Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: PureLove on October 23, 2011, 05:38:41 PM
She got the conversation on her phone?  afraid/ Why not sharing it here? That would be amazing and we could discuss about the voice. I wish she took a picture instead of recording the voice tho. But still, that's better than nothing.

Thank you for sharing this with us.
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 05:45:22 PM
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She got the conversation on her phone?  afraid/ Why not sharing it here? That would be amazing and we could discuss about the voice. I wish she took a picture instead of recording the voice tho. But still, that's better than nothing.

Thank you for sharing this with us.
:mrgreen:

I didn't say she recorded the voice, I could ask her if she did. She just told me what she heard, I'm assuming she noted it down from the recording though, so she probably does have a recording. Hm... you've just given me something interesting there.

I'll go and ask her now, if she does  I'm gonna ask her to send it to me, then I'll upload it here.

**EDIT**

Turns out she DOES have a recording! gonna get it soon and upload it here!
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 23, 2011, 06:46:42 PM
That will be so great Rai.. thank you so much..
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 06:50:41 PM
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That will be so great Rai.. thank you so much..

Mm, she doesn't wanna share it on here until she gets an account (Dunno when that will be, but she seems busy on other forums too.) I'll upload it when she lets me ._. hope it won't be too late.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: PureLove on October 23, 2011, 07:00:13 PM
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She got the conversation on her phone?  afraid/ Why not sharing it here? That would be amazing and we could discuss about the voice. I wish she took a picture instead of recording the voice tho. But still, that's better than nothing.

Thank you for sharing this with us.
:mrgreen:

I didn't say she recorded the voice, I could ask her if she did. She just told me what she heard, I'm assuming she noted it down from the recording though, so she probably does have a recording. Hm... you've just given me something interesting there.

I'll go and ask her now, if she does  I'm gonna ask her to send it to me, then I'll upload it here.

**EDIT**

Turns out she DOES have a recording! gonna get it soon and upload it here!

You wrote:

Quote
she said she got as much as she could of the conversation on her phone

I think this already means she recorded the voice on her phone. It would be good to hear it if there's a recording for real.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 23, 2011, 07:11:09 PM
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She got the conversation on her phone?  afraid/ Why not sharing it here? That would be amazing and we could discuss about the voice. I wish she took a picture instead of recording the voice tho. But still, that's better than nothing.

Thank you for sharing this with us.
:mrgreen:

I didn't say she recorded the voice, I could ask her if she did. She just told me what she heard, I'm assuming she noted it down from the recording though, so she probably does have a recording. Hm... you've just given me something interesting there.

I'll go and ask her now, if she does  I'm gonna ask her to send it to me, then I'll upload it here.

**EDIT**

Turns out she DOES have a recording! gonna get it soon and upload it here!

You wrote:

Quote
she said she got as much as she could of the conversation on her phone

I think this already means she recorded the voice on her phone. It would be good to hear it if there's a recording for real.

I just verified that she had the recording on her phone, what I meant last time by "She got as much as she could of the conversation on her phone." is that she transcribed some of the audio.

She doesn't want to put it on here, what am I supposed to do? I could always convince her, because I really need it. That sounds selfish I know, but still...
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Jennie on October 23, 2011, 08:30:50 PM
Are you friends with her enough to know she's not playing a bad joke on you?   Dont get me wrong I'm not judging her but I am wondering... you never know and it does sound to good to be true.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 23, 2011, 10:24:52 PM
Let's give her a chance, maybe she will change her mind.. If not Rai, well there is nothing you can do.. I just hope that she is telling you the truth.. I do not know her, and i do not want to judge either. So we will give her the benefit of the doubt. blessings.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 24, 2011, 06:09:30 AM
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Are you friends with her enough to know she's not playing a bad joke on you?   Dont get me wrong I'm not judging her but I am wondering... you never know and it does sound to good to be true.

I doubt she'd play a joke on me, she's a kind person and she knows I'm sensetive sometimes.
We've been friends for five years now, so I wouldn't expect so?
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 24, 2011, 06:11:50 AM
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Let's give her a chance, maybe she will change her mind.. If not Rai, well there is nothing you can do.. I just hope that she is telling you the truth.. I do not know her, and i do not want to judge either. So we will give her the benefit of the doubt. blessings.

Gosh, it's okay.
I'll ask her if atleast I can listen to the recording, she can't back that down can she?
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: mopey3655chat on October 24, 2011, 10:29:06 AM
That would be just awesome if at least she will allow you to listen to it to be able to verify if it does in fact sound like Michael.  That recording may be the proof that we need to prove that MJ  is alive like we have been trying to tell everyone from the beginning. 
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on October 24, 2011, 11:23:10 AM
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Let's give her a chance, maybe she will change her mind.. If not Rai, well there is nothing you can do.. I just hope that she is telling you the truth.. I do not know her, and i do not want to judge either. So we will give her the benefit of the doubt. blessings.

Gosh, it's okay.
I'll ask her if atleast I can listen to the recording, she can't back that down can she?

Rai if she is a very good friend of yours this is the least  she can do for you, make you listen to the recording. blessings.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 24, 2011, 11:30:15 AM
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Let's give her a chance, maybe she will change her mind.. If not Rai, well there is nothing you can do.. I just hope that she is telling you the truth.. I do not know her, and i do not want to judge either. So we will give her the benefit of the doubt. blessings.

Gosh, it's okay.
I'll ask her if atleast I can listen to the recording, she can't back that down can she?

Rai if she is a very good friend of yours this is the least  she can do for you, make you listen to the recording. blessings.

She said she doesn't want me to, but her friend Gale said she had it on her phone and would let me.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: mopey3655chat on October 24, 2011, 03:55:18 PM
Please Rai if she does allow you to listen let us know what you think about it.
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: PureLove on October 24, 2011, 04:17:56 PM
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Let's give her a chance, maybe she will change her mind.. If not Rai, well there is nothing you can do.. I just hope that she is telling you the truth.. I do not know her, and i do not want to judge either. So we will give her the benefit of the doubt. blessings.

Gosh, it's okay.
I'll ask her if atleast I can listen to the recording, she can't back that down can she?

Rai if she is a very good friend of yours this is the least  she can do for you, make you listen to the recording. blessings.

She said she doesn't want me to, but her friend Gale said she had it on her phone and would let me.

I don't think there is a voice she recorded. No offense Rai. But if she had, why wouldn't she allow you and everyone hear that? That is not a personal or private message that Michael left to your friend. It's just his voice talking to other people. So she can be lying to you because I can not see any reason for not wanting to share it with others. Weird. But still thank you for sharing this info with us. ;)
Title: Re: (Something odd) From a friend
Post by: Raikiramari on October 24, 2011, 04:27:38 PM
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Let's give her a chance, maybe she will change her mind.. If not Rai, well there is nothing you can do.. I just hope that she is telling you the truth.. I do not know her, and i do not want to judge either. So we will give her the benefit of the doubt. blessings.

Gosh, it's okay.
I'll ask her if atleast I can listen to the recording, she can't back that down can she?

Rai if she is a very good friend of yours this is the least  she can do for you, make you listen to the recording. blessings.

She said she doesn't want me to, but her friend Gale said she had it on her phone and would let me.

I don't think there is a voice she recorded. No offense Rai. But if she had, why wouldn't she allow you and everyone hear that? That is not a personal or private message that Michael left to your friend. It's just his voice talking to other people. So she can be lying to you because I can not see any reason for not wanting to share it with others. Weird. But still thank you for sharing this info with us. ;)

She's not letting me hear it, I was the one who wanted to share it.
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